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>>520259514
Carriers are very hard to sink, you will kill everyone on board before you can do enough damage to sink one.
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Saddam had antiship missiles, too. [yawn]
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Love how morons think that the country with the largest proven reserves is too poor to have a shitload of missiles lined up after 15 years of American saber rattling and that nobody has any interest in supporting or garnering favoring from them lmao
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>>520259514
Technology is cool
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Aircraft carriers are next to go down after Tanks on the Battlefield.

The reason is because small AI powered handheld drones between the size of bees and the size of fish, can simply get through their defenses, and although the drones can't take out the carrier, they can blind the sensors down there, and after enough holes in the hull, the thing fills with water, and sinks. Of course you'll need a hundred thousand drones, all at once to do the job, but that's much less cost than the carrier itself.

The carriers are going to spawn porcupine cope-cages underneath with a button press.
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>>520259704
This is literally all you need to sink an aircraft carrier. The only trouble is getting close enough.
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>>520259514
>the US doesn't have tech 50 years more advanced than any nation on earth
LMFAO, cope non-country
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>>520260434
why, does a kippah fall off when you swim?
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>>520260434
Holy hell. So many compartments/flood doors. You'd be at it for years.
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You don't even need to sink them.
Thousands of US Seamen had to receive psychological counselling from their time in the Red Sea because just being shot back at is enough to beat an amerimutt, mentally.
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>>520260340
Drones are a very effective weapon so long as no one fields a counter to them, and they will cease to be an option as soon as someone does.
The advantage of drones is that they are very cheap to make and use. But that same cheapness does not lend itself to hardened electronics. You don't beat drones by hitting them with a bullet, you beat drones by pressing a button and making every drone within 3 miles of you fall out of the sky. Like all things there will be an arms race in HERF/ECM weapons and defenses, but even a moderately effective drone jammer makes drones massively less appealing as a weapon platform.
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>>520260434
Holy shit you are one retarded nigger. Like the dumbest, blackest gorilla retard nigger on 4chan for the day. I hope you sudoku.
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>>520259704
Quite the opposite. Modern ships are made with no real armor, they are less durable than their WW2 counterparts
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>>520259514
Why do all Russians have the brain power of some 10 year old retard playing world of tanks?
The USA should kill all Russians with a first nuclear strike, so we can have some peace and quite.
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>>520261846
Armor isn't what keeps ships afloat, anon. Redundancy is. You don't protect your ship by making it impossible to put a hole in it, you protect your ship by making it so they can put 20 holes in it and it will still be able to make it home.
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>>520259704
Nigga what lmao
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>>520262059
But did it sink? If not, he's right and you're wrong.
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>>520260434
You just need a bored woman to make nomes in your ship
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>>520259907
Arabs have a commitment issue. They are just lazy and incompetent. Seriously.
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>>520259514
Its no different from using a nuke on your enemy.
"ha ha one missile destroyed an entire city!"
Its retarded, obviously we will strike back and strike back HARD. Attacking a carrier is like using a nuke.
You're retarded for thinking a single missile doing something is somehow a "gotcha".
No wonder, you're a fucking toothpastefag.
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The Titanic was also unsinkable just like the Bismark just saying
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It was unavoidable

That time of ignorance you thought lost, so close to the answer
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>>520259514
yeah, I'm pretty sure the B2 is also useless and just kike propaganda
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>>520261691
The joke -->

(You)
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>>520259704
>Carriers are very hard to sink
nigger fucking please
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A bunch of little drone at night with thermite would do the trick
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>>520260886
Losing a 70 million shekels war plane by it falling from a carrier because the cartier was zigzaging to avoid rockets as it fled waving a white flag is one of the funniest moments in the history of warfare
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>>520263845
That thing is FUCKING TINY.
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>>520263845
Nigger that ship has a wood deck.
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>>520262059
>pedro doesn't know what "sink" means
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>>520259704
from the sky, sure.
isn't the standard procedure to send a torpedo and detonate it underneath the ship, creating a vacuum that splits the ship in two.
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>>520259704
hypersonics can sink one without even the payload just cutting through them like a katana that's been folded 1000 times
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carriers are mobile. you know what’s not mobile? moscow and st. pidorsburg, which have several hundred nuclear warheads aimed at 24/7/365
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>>520262059
it'll buff out
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If Carriers are so useless why is China building them?
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>>520260340
how do they even get in/out kek
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>>520265602
fun fact: they still did not fix this damage, there were press photos released a few weeks ago where they just put a logo over it. rome is falling, and it is falling quick
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>>520259704
>muh unsinkable titanic
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>>520265850
They will become useful again when all yours are gone.
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>>520261663
>ECM
they'd just switch to adding a ground wire you fucking retard
>drone jammer
they've been using fiber optics for control for years you fucking retard
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>>520259704
USS Cole nearly sank from a rubber raft filled with explosives. 100+ casualties and all hands prevented it from sinking completely. A few missiles on each side of a hull will probably sink a carrier unless they seal the compartments fast enough.
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>>520259514
DO NOT!
I REPEAT!
>DO NOT!

Look into the Multiple Kill Vehicle. Please.
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Imagine someone properly master the raindance

Is a lot of problems
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>>520266150
You dig a hole and come up from the bottom
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>>520259514
If a foreign power sunk a US aircraft carrier, the US would almost certainly nuke them out of existence.
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>>520259514
Venezuela doesn't have these missiles
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>>520266726
They did live fire exercises on a kittyhawk class carrier and after 4 weeks they rigged it with demolitions to finally sink it.
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>>520266901
>nooo you can't shoot back!
>nook! nook!
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>>520266919
You hope lmao
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> https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2024/06/07/photos-purport-to-show-damage-to-us-aircraft-carrier-after-houthi-missile-strike/
lmao
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>>520266492
still mad about losing a ship to literal 3rd world subhuman niggers in the falklands war
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>>520261912
Dead hand system ensures mutual destruction
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>>520266919
The Chinese have been providing them with radar and weapons anon, have you not been keeping up? China has their most advanced radars coasting around searching and sharing

stay updated or not if you want to cope once you see the strikes happening, completely evading Chinese radars (which you will call fake news of course)

>>520267164
what used to happen whenever a person won over the "strongest" throughout history anon? why did that all change?
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>>520265202
At that speed hitting concrete is the same as hitting wet wood.
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>>520262458
If China sank a US carrier, we would certainly destroy the 3 gorges dam.
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Holy kek at the miggers
Also somehow, for whatever reason, nafoids also came to this thread to /k/ope
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>>520266901
>when /k/oping so hard about being a loder that you have to trigger a nuclear world armageddon to avoid ACK-ing yourself
yea...
Nigger
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>>520267566
>get attacked
>immediately give up the high moral ground and invite a nuclear first strike
you certainly wouldn't
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>>520267566
You can't destroy it
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Only $13B for an aircraft carrier?
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>>520265202
>>520268255
>Only $13B for an aircraft carrier?

+niggers (which are a priceless luxury at sea)
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>>520263845
>see it's easy to sink
>>video
>>it didn't sink
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>>520268142
In 20 years it Will burst on its own
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>>520266566
just because the control link is wired doesn't mean the electronics on the drone itself aren't susceptible to ecm
you fucking retard
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>>520268437
>twix candy bar
My cousin was in the military. When I visited his base I had lunch with him in the cafeteria and it was a bunch of processed food and candy. What the fuck is wrong with our military?
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>>520259704
They were saying the same to Titanic and Yamamoto
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>>520259514
Rusaians can not sink shit.
They are too ameicanized and in love with USA to do that.
Rusaians are the ultimate disgrace
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>>520266272
They have like four elevators so being down one on a pump doesn't end the mission
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>>520260340
No need to sink the ship. Just blow up some jets on the deck.
The havoc will make the entire ship unoperational.
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>>520259514

Anon, whatever you do DON'T TOUCH THE BOATS of the nuclear superpower.

Ask Japan about it, before you get second sun special delivery by the US air-force.
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>>520269377
>>520269429
lmao keev posters use the last 5% of todays battery charge to make pathetic /k/ nigger posts like that
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>>520269510
it does not really inspire confidence now does it
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>>520269110
you put a fucking wire mesh around it and ground it, you fucking retard, no ECM besides one from a nuclear blast will get through that
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>>520259514
>Destroy aircraft carrier
>Lose all of your infrastructure
It is why only muslim shitholes even try. Everyone else knows it isn't a good idea
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>>520269936
They could have at least taped a grey tarp over it.
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>>520270077
>ground a flying drone
lmao ok retard let me just replace the fiber optic with 1000 yards of copper and turn it into a giant antenna
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This thread should be in /k/
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>>520266566
The ground wire would drastically change it's range and thus applications in many instances
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Won't work. The Iran scenario from earlier in the year will be repeated.The aircraft carriers will stay outside missile range and launch jets to destroy all anti-air and anti-ship launchers before moving in.
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>>520268217
GUARANTEE we have some Rods From God, or some other space weapon that could easily puncture that tofu dreg "dam"...
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>>520270611
>This thread should be in /k/

that faggot nigger /k/ike board has been reduced to single-digit unique posters daily, compltely cratered the user base by 72hr banning every single permuation of words that isnt explicitly sucking off nato or israel

you literally cant 'talk' about anything on that board
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>>520267566
>If China sank a US carrier, we would certainly destroy the 3 gorges dam.
dumbest faggot niggert talking point i have ever heard

imagine thinking the rest of the planet would tolerate some jewish hyper terrorism that indiscriminitely kills millions because some idiotic provocative air-craft carrier 6000 miles away from its home port gets clapped

you /k/ niggers make me fucking sick youre so catastrophically stupid

>>520271030
"rods from God" dont exist
and are some idiotic faggot North Korean tier propaganda pushed on the stupidest segment of Americans who *STILL* hold the dogshit belief that America somehow hides
>"le ultra-tech alien gear!" 50 to 100 years ahead of Russian and China even!"
all while US global (((hegemony))) evaporates in real time, to literal actual "last place GDP" nations like Yemen.
FUCKING YEMEN buck broke any and all optics of US carrier diplomacy with the suez debacle
its completely gone
FOREVER
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>>520259514
What cost more, that one missile or an 800 drone swarm.
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>>520267566
>Chyna has no defense of any kind
Are you high?
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>>520271311
>What cost more, that one missile or an 800 drone swarm.

the drones wont have the range or speed of the missile, which are its primary selling points
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>>520263845
>Watch what mighty Chinese missile do to this ship!
>That is... as wide as the missile
>And made of wood...
>And... didn't actually sink...
>CHINA #1!!!!!!!!!
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>>520259514
for a second I had to double take "is that a barren wasteland or asian water?"
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>>520268115
Beautiful
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>>520271490
anytime you hear some flippant remark or post about blowing up the 3-gorges dam you are 100% listening to some retarded /k/ nigger on last decades le-funny-China-hawking talking points from some think-tank john mccain or john bolton ooze out of
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>>520271221
You're fucking retarded if you think the entire worlds knows 100% of every single weapon America has.
Legit 68 IQ thought.
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>>520259704
>carriers are hard to sink
Every sub in the US Navy is fully capable of single handedly sinking a carrier right out of its fucking task force.
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>>520267164
Not mad about proving jets were obsolete in the Falklands war.
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>>520271618
lmao, it doesnt even have to do le-ebin michael bay fuckHUEG explosion

all it has to do is punch through to the nigger compartment, (detonate) and the domestic backlash to idiotic needless naval provocations thousands of miles from home would be so severe they would be curtailed for a decade
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>>520271756
>You're fucking retarded if you think the entire worlds knows 100% of every single weapon America has.
>Legit 68 IQ thought.

i never said that you dumb fucking /k/ike

what I said the idea the US lifted fucking dozens of tungstun telephone poles into space is so fucking DUMB only some /k/ posting troon could believe it
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>>520263845
Some film graphic isn't proof of easy sinking, when was the last aircraft carrier sunk?
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>>520259704
>imagine not understanding that in the terminal phase the warhead will try to explode under the nuclear reactor
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>>520271785
lmao, the uk couldnt do another falkands campaign now if its life depended on it
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>>520271957
You should probably go look into what the Harpoon was capable of sans warhead in live fire testing.
Ah, metal fires. Wondrous things.
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>>520259514
SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE THEN
OH OKAY
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>>520271957
>when was the last aircraft carrier sunk?
close enough!
45+ year old exocets did this EZ

what do you think new anti-ship missiles will do?
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>>520260340
That is Baba Yaga's hut with the chicken legs pulled in for defence.
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The last aircraft carrier to be sunk in war was the battle of Iwo Jima, the USS Bismarck Sea.
FFS don't name warships Bismark.
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>>520272075
We have an airbase there now and it's patrolled by nuclear submarines. Like we said aircraft carriers are obsolete.
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>>520269110
Please describe the means by which ECM can affect the electronic components of a drone with no reliance on radio. I'm not saying it's impossible, but if you have any understanding, perhaps we can discuss practicality.
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>>520259514
That's a fucking Kalibr. It's not gonna sink anything.
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>>520260515
Brazil has no US military base.
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>>520271852
Imagine just slapping her in the face and seeing the charade instantly vanish. This is what mass hysteria is: everybody there playing along with an act they all know to be rooted in fraud.
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>>520272241
It was torpedoed by a RoyalNavy sub, dickhead.
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>>520272452
Yeah, Ukrainian infrastructure would intercept it or something
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>>520259514
Has a range of 800km MAX according to google, probably half that since it's russian. The B2 bomber has a range of 11,000km. Hell, the F35 has a combat radius of 1100km, meaning it can just destroy the missile installations and return to the carrier without ever being in danger.
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>>520272605
>Imagine just slapping her in the face and seeing the charade instantly vanish. This is what mass hysteria is: everybody there playing along with an act they all know to be rooted in fraud
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>>520272768
Anyone want to explain why this US flag is using kilometers and dodging nautical miles?
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serious question: If you get drafted but refuse to do anything but eat and sleep, what would they do to you realistically?
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>>520260886
Free money retard
T. Sailor
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>>520272961
Make you live in a cell for about 6 months until they were fed up with you a discharged you for being a mental.
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>>520262059
>cargo ship impact
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>>520272768
We seriously need to stop glorifying aircrafts. They are just aircrafts at the end of the day, they CAN be shutdown and they will.

It's like Ferrari claiming their cars can never get in a car accident.
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>>520265587
Wouldn't make a big enough hole without explosives.
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>>520273208
so nothing? And I wouldn't be forced to die for some kike banker? Cool beans
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>>520267566
>Imagine the Liveleak videos
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>>520272830
What a terrible waste.
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>>520273321
Refuse to wear a uniform and sit there in a hesian sack, you will probably get out quicker.
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>>520268115
Russia has the most kino missiles, ngl
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>>520272961
>serious question: If you get drafted but refuse to do anything but eat and sleep, what would they do to you realistically?

all evidence from nato-style drafting suggests they would beat severly, or even to death
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>>520260515
That map is wrong. There's no US bases here and never has been.
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>>520273502
That's what Greenland thought until the usa crashed a plane full of nukes there.
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>>520268115
I could calculate the trajectory and figure out where it came from
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>>520271852
Bro, if I had a female drill instructor, I would be in so much trouble for laughing so much.
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>>520272605
>everybody there playing along with an act they all know to be rooted in fraud
it's called demoralization and it's everywhere. Forcing people to accept something as true when they know it isn't, when it obviously isn't, just breaks people down over time and makes them more obedient. Kinda perfect for military training, honestly.
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>>520272241
kino. film cameras look the best
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>>520259514
Oh yeah what was the name of that aircraft carrier it sunk?
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>>520273469
I am talking about here in america though. Also my question is posed after you have already been drafted. Like be in training camp and just telling some 5' woman who is screaming at you to shut her whore mouth and get back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, where she belongs. I mean I would laugh in this >>520271852 bitches face when she tried to tell me what to do.
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>>520273776
I get that, but also believe the efficacy is limited, bounded by patience. One might say, "our patience has its limits."
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>>520259704
Right, the goal is to disable the carrier, not sink it. A couple of well-placed strikes would effectively achieve this if they hit their target, while it might take several dozen strikes to sink the vessel.
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>>520271221
>rest of the planet
There is no rest of the planet militarily speaking.
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>>520266945
The US isnt know for its Anti Ship Missiles.
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>>520273848
No idea what would happen in your theoretical scenario, but I know it absolutely would not make it to that point. After decades of absolute bullshit, Americans have no appetite for war whatsoever, and any attempt at a draft would be met with an immediate and incredibly violent response.
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>>520273401
Of the entire west coast getting nuked? We might see them like 2-3 minutes before the rest of the nukes fall in the east coast.
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>>520273848
Those guys want to be in the military so will put up with that just to pass the course. I doubt there will be any women in the military when men start getting drafted.
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>>520274063
>A couple of well-placed strikes
China's most advanced missile system has a long range margin of error measured in miles.
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>>520259514
Why not just shoot it at a shallow angle?
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>>520274189
>any attempt at a draft would be met with an immediate and incredibly violent response.
Yeah I doubt we will ever see one again unless we get invaded in a land war by a superior force. Which ain't happening
>I doubt there will be any women in the military when men start getting drafted.
hmm I hadn't thought of that, could be right. Either way I would laugh at any man that tried the same thing, knowing they are not allowed to harm you physically.
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Z
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>>520274499
The point of it is to make you not care about taking worthless shit a bit like we try to do on /pol/.
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>>520269936
That's cosmetic. It will buff right out.
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>>520260340
>Visibility: "of through port"
>Combat Effectiveness: "some very"
>Exhaust Gasses: "is recycle"
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>>520259514
no they dont cost 1 meeleon dollars, dr evil
>hahahahaha
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>>520261846
Thats not how that works. Same reason we stopped wearing armor in war there for a little while. It was just useless weight up until after ww2
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>>520273275
I had high hopes that Iran could manage to shoot down some jewish F-35, but no.
My cope is that they were shooting missiles outside interception range.
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>>520263845
>makes a claim
>doesn't show it sinking
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>>520274063
>while it might take several dozen strikes to sink the vessel.
lol lmao even. No ship in existance could withstand 2-3 hits from modern anti-ship cruise missiles without sinking.
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>>520278162
>existance
existence*
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>>520266566
Tell me you have no fucking idea what you're talking about - the post.
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>>520259514
Wowwweew is that A missile?
>>520261846
...aircraft carriers are stuffed to the gills with steel alloy honey comb armor, kevlar blankets and compartmentalization bulkheads. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>520266272
A patch requires very specialized parchment paper and Reynold's Wrap that costs $31,805,521 per roll, because it has UFO stealth features and is on special order from the Andromeda galaxy.
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>>520266272
It seems a bit weird to be this obsessed with US military-related minutia for some random Euro faggot. How autistic are you? Why do you know these things?
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>>520260434
>what are bilge pumps
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>>520278162
I dunno, modern ships are pretty resilient. The MOL Comfort broke clean in two and it took weeks for it's halves to sink. And that's just an unarmored cargo ship
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>>520259514
Small drone swarms + chem/bio weapons
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>>520259514
entire sky filled with military satellites imagine letting this happen when you can just call your dogs on the other ling and tell them to push the button hit the switch flick the thingy

zero sound propulsion tech and satellites that can beam your whore wifes vagina with the same frequency as an orgasm to make her wet and follow the goo trail or flood the streets with that stank ass poosay
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Several submarine torpedoes bye bye carrier
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>>520259514
Fascinating webm, ngl.
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>>520269377
The Titanic could've been saved (or at least significantly delayed from sinking until rescue arrived) if it had even interwar level pumps and damage control methods.
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>>520273277
>https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/zircon-how-much-threat-does-russias-hypersonic-missile-pose
> kinetic energy is the single best predictor of lethality against large surface targets (more so than warhead size)
A 400kg slug traveling at mach 9 is going to make a big hole.
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>>520265587
>nothing peronelle...
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>>520271030
Nigger you can barely put shit in space without musk
You don't have shit and you were kvetching hard when russia was saying they will put nukes in space last year and were kvetching even harder when china put a space station in orbit
Meanwhile the iss you niggers started is coming down next year and nasa is effectively dead
Fucking kek
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>>520272961
CBT everyday
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>>520259514
>*sinks your $13 billion USD aircraft carrier*

Cruise missiles have been around for 35 years. You think there's no defense?

https://youtu.be/NPdAbd8U_gM
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>>520271852
Is she a petty officer because he once cut her in line or something?
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>>520259514
Carriers travel with a fleet, not solo.
They are almost impossible to sink.
Each piece of the fleet is designed to protect the fleet as a whole.
You would need 100K drones to sink a carrier.
But by that point, the fleet will probably carry counter drones.
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>>520259514
People have this weird image how carriers sail alone, when in fact they have small fleet around protecting carrier.

Its not only one or two boats, more like anything from dozen to couple dozen
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>>520259704
This.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_America_(CV-66)#Post_decommissioning_service
The Navy tried to intentionally sink an old one with live fire and couldn't.
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>>520262059
Mutt, that's just cosmetic damage. Unlike your face. You were born that way baby.
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>>520269154
Ever heard the phrase "cooking for an army"? When you're preparing massive amounts of food and the sole purpose of that food is to fill up as many people as possible with as many calories as possible you go big on sugars and processed food.
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>>520282876
Saar, the post
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>>520272709
Pretty much, yes. It's used against land targets mostly, in particular targets with poor air defense. It's the same as a Tomahawk in essence. Easy to shoot down. It's not going to get within 100km of a carrier group.
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>>520259704
Just fucking ban burgers at this point. It's a sacrifice Im willing to make.
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>>520259514
Why don't they fire the missile at a lower angle more paralleled to the ground if its just gonna do a *90 sharp turn?
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>>520294750
Because it's actually a repurposed VLS missile from the Navy.
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is that before or after 2 weeks?
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>>520295007
The 2 more weeks missile is that nuclear one they made.
>launch today
>hit in two more weeks
>except then the 2 more weeks begin anew and it just keeps flying around
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>>520260434
good luck getting up close to it you dumb faggot. it's called a carrier strike group for a reason, to have destroyers blow up your little boat before you get close, and if you decide to bring a destroyer of your own the submarine you didn't see just blew you out the water.
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>>520272961
Forced troonshine therapy.
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>>520274189
>>520274499
You
Won't
Do
Shit
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>>520273321
dishonorably discharged is not nothing. You'd have to become your own boss because the kikes will make sure no company hires you
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>>520274189
any fags saying otherwise is a red.dit gaslighting we cunt. We may not do shit about elections but if they try and draft us to get us to die for jews that will illicit a response
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>>520259514
>*cockblocks your plan*
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>>520262458
What’s with this retarded burger cope about muh carriers being untouchable, you realize in ww2 the US lost dozens of carriers in action against Japan right?
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>>520259514
If carriers are obsolete and can be easily defeated by a single missile then why is China building shit tons of them?

You’d think if the Chinese realized that killing carriers is super easy then they wouldn’t bother investing in them
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>>520295871
>Dozens of carriers against Japan
>pic related
Burgermath working as intended

>Japan lost 21 aircraft carriers during World War II, with the losses occurring across multiple years. The Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) had a total of 25 carriers commissioned or in service during the war, but was left with only four undamaged or repairable carriers by the end.
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>>520295714
>Oh look a civilian airliner
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>>520296884
>Be a real shame
NO!!
>If something
DON'T DO IT!
>were to happen
NOO!! NO NONO!!!
>nah



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