>>520269590He should be able to recognize Trump as the antichrist then
>>520269590what is his opinion on david blain the magical negro?
>>5202695901. Circular reasoning – It claims the Bible is true because it’s the word of God, and we know it’s the word of God because the Bible says so.2. Appeal to authority – It demands belief because ancient men or divine figures said so, not because evidence supports it.3. False dichotomy – It frames reality as “believe or burn,” ignoring infinite other explanations for existence and morality.4. Ad hoc reasoning – Every failed prophecy or moral contradiction is explained away with “God works in mysterious ways.”5. Strawman – It reduces non-believers to “rebels against God” instead of people who simply see no evidence.6. Appeal to emotion – It manipulates fear of hell and desire for eternal love to override critical thought.7. Post hoc fallacy – It assumes good events are “blessings” and bad ones are “tests” without causal proof.8. Slippery slope – It warns that without faith society will collapse into chaos, ignoring secular stability and progress.9. No true Scotsman – It excuses every Christian atrocity by saying “they weren’t real Christians.”10. Begging the question – It assumes sin and salvation are real just to prove the need for Christ.11. Tu quoque – It deflects criticism by pointing to the sins of atheists or other belief systems.12. Appeal to ignorance – It treats gaps in science or understanding as evidence of God.13. Loaded question – It asks “why do you hate God?” presuming God exists and is hateable.14. Bandwagon fallacy – It implies truth through popularity: billions believe, therefore it must be true.15. Appeal to tradition – It insists Christianity is true because it’s old, not because it’s rational.
>>520269590He’s also non white. Pretty true to form desu
I think Satoshi Nakamoto is a South Korean Christian who stands for truth and faith in Jesus Christ.
>>520269590Post proof that he is the smartest man in the world
>chung Chang gook hyagook >Oooh, rite man, me love Jesus Christu long time and me have 300 IQ, you ret me fuck rite daughter now? In pussyu?
>>520269590 You never heard of him before he said that
>>520269590He cant be the smartast man in the world. Its impossible. But maybe ge skipped the bible lessons and are completely lost when it comes to the stories in it.He most likely cheated or did the same test so many times that he knew everything in advance
>>520269590Anybody who brags about their IQ isn't intelligent.>>520269780I like this.
>>520269780hahahahahaha cope and seething reddit faggot, and you know, kill yourself
>>520269590>World's most mentally ill man professes Christian faith
>>520269590The smartest person in the world realized how easy it is to grift conservative christtards.
>>520269590That's not Chris langan!
Jesus is not God. The holy Trinity is of one essence but acts in separate ways. The son is the real human manifestation of God to reveal his truth. God is above all and singular. It is through participation in understanding, recognizing, and learning about the Trinity that makes one Christian. In short, the guy is a retard.
>>520270024>Oy vey Don't you have foreskins to cook to feed the boyslaves locked in your blood libel dungeon, rabbi?
>>520269590>smartest person in the world says jewsus was a kikeKek! Only midwits will disagree.
>>520270084>>520270133>>520270154delicious copemay God bring bloody terror to our enemies, AMEN >but but you are hypocrite reeeeeeeeeleave non alive, not even the cattle or the children ; )
>>520270247I enjoy your nations prostitutes.
my based genocidal God is coming for your asses next LOLyou guys are fucked
believing gooks makes you stupid and you should feel stupid
No, Terry Tao isn't religious. There are rumors God is thinking of converting to Terryism though.
>>520270182God is God, Jesus Christ is God come to us in human form to absolve our sins and preach us his word, and the holy spirit is the essence of the LORD placed inside of us to make our bodies temples so they were can never be separated from God.
>>520270298yeah me too, Jesus befriended them you know, they are nice girls
>>520269590CRUSTY KANG MY BRUDDAS!
>>520270247>Crimean LMFAO watch out for shrapnel, vodkanigger.
>>520269590All the smartest people in the world are Christians; atheism is pure midwitism.
>>520270481>macachristian in charge of understanding proportions
>>520269590Yes DEUS VULT posters, this Korean is your hero.
>>520269590I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole and argue with Catholics what the problem with the concept of the trinity is.This is bait.
>>520269590>I matched the patterns and the shapes the way some other asshole thought they should go together in a short time that means I'm the smartest
>>520270602This has been argued to death for almost 2000 years now. It’s one of the bigger unsettled disputes from the Great Schism. Even the pope and the patriarchs are over it. I am going to assume there is nothing new to be discovered from anon in this case
I researched him a bit, he's a liar, the IQ testing he claims proves his IQ was scammy as fuck. Even more than the fact that no IQ tests can accurately test more than 150-170range its like this company I'm on the board of has a private test and it said I'm 250iq, no you can't see it or have any info
>>520269590The second coming of the Dunning-Kruger effect, incarnate in the flesh.
>>520270344>Jesus Christ is God come to us in human form to absolve our sins and preach us his word, and the holy spirit is the essence of the LORD placed inside of usWhere do you even get this shit? You're saying the Holy Spirit inhabits psychopathic niggers and goes to hell?
>>520269780A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.Always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.Senseless people do not know. Wicked people do not understand.
>>520269590We love Christ here sis.
>>52026978016. The Abrahamic god clearly is a supremely incompetent and violent retard.
>>520271324Sounds like you're backing his arguments, but I'm uncertain that was your intent.
>>520269653"anti-" meaning "in place of.." Christ. The man of sin, the son of perdition, that is refering to Judas Ischariot, one among the 12. It is someone from among the Christian ekklesia, and the number of his name is 666. That man has already been identified 500 years ago - Vicarivs Filii Dei: V+I+C+I+V+I+L+I+I+D+I = 666It is the dragon seat (Revelation 13:2) of the papacy, the seat of pagan Rome which is now known as papal Rome. Happy Reformation Dayhttps://youtu.be/dCqzJshaf8Mhttps://youtu.be/JM1uQQ2T740
>>520269780this guy paying for chatgpt PREMIUM
>>520269590IQ != smart
>>520269653You're a massive faggot retard brainwashed communist in the first place so you're null and void you are literally a satan follower trying to blame everyone else for what you are.
>>520271654More like: intelligence literally doesn't exist.And if that guy's IQ is 276 that's the ideal proof.
>>520269590if he's smart then why is he a chriscuck? checkmate.
>>520269780begone with your jewish midwittery.
>>520269715David Blaine is not a nigger. I don’t even look black. It’s pretty goddamn obvious that David Blaine is half Spanish half English.
>>520269780cringed to death
>>520269780>slippery slope is a fallacy
>>520269780But enough about Science.
>>520270670>>520269590This faggot MADE THE IQ TEST, took his own IQ test, then posted a study calling himself the smartest because he perfect scored it.He's a retard.
You will know them by their fruits
>Highest IQ in the world>No lifetime achievementsThis is proof that Jesus was a fraud
>>520269780>no evidence
>>520276003Oh so he's just mentally ill.He's probably reading this thread right now.
>>520269590Best computer in the world can run dumbest software
>>520276003this is a lie but i understand why you're lying
>>520269590Grifting hard
>>520269780based.
>>520270213>Don't you have foreskinDo you ?
>>520269590>a literal worshiper of a god that diesHow can you kill a god? I'm always amazed by how dumb goyim are.
>>520269780>all these assblasted replies over their tribal warlord deity is being questioned the absolute fucking state of this boardfuck off election tourists
>>520269780Appeal to authority: Smart scientist man says God isn't realCircular reasoning: The universe exists because if it didn't exist it wouldn't existBegs the question: The universe came from another universeAppeal to incredulity: God isn't real because it sounds stupid, like a flying spaghetti monsterGoalpost moving: "There is no Creator" to "Maybe there's a Creator but it's not the Christian God"Whataboutism: "If God exists, then what about starving children in Africa?"Tu quoque: Christians molest children! Wars have been fought over religion!
>>520269590Goes to show that people aren't very smart.
>>520277190make me, fat manlet gaytheist bitch
>>520269590>I believe that Jesus Christ is GodIt means he is not high IQ.
>>520277246>>520277356do you have some argument to show his worldview is false? or do you just cower behind the shield of agnosticism while lobbing feces at theists?>t-t-there's not enough evidence for me to feel the belief is warranted!
>>520277302turn the other cheek and go slurp some nigger toes like your god commands faggot
>>520277466your BMI is higher than your IQ
>>520269590>as the smartest person on the planet here is how I make easy money grifting retards
>>520277440You're a cocksucker, anon.
>>520277704stellar argumentas expected of an atheist intellectual
>>520269653>Everything I don't like is the antichrist
>>520269590He can explain his faith. The demon worshippers can only seethe.Christ is the Truth, the way and the life.
>>520269590>worst korea """(((christian)))"""
>>520269653The sheer amount of people that hate him thoroughly disproves that.
>>520269590>smartest >is circumcised >is gook>believes in jewish psyopsMore like a dumb fucking christcuck
>>520278247
>>520269590But /pol/ told me that atheists are smarter? Athiest bros... our response???
>>520269780its hard to believe some fat atheist somewhere literally typed up 15 reasons and got 0 out of 15 of them correct every single one is wrong either due to false conclusions or dishonest premises and a good fraction are the wrong fallacy given the premises/conclusions in the first place. an absolute moron wrote that, possibly a chatgbt model that was forced to barf up 15 fallacy types after it first said it couldn't so it invented baseless slop trained off of reddit comments made by edgy teenagers and jewsfor instance just #1 is dishonest because nowhere in the Bible does it say the Bible itself is true because its the word of God. That would make no sense to say that since books were continually added for centuries
>smartest man in the world>says the dumbest shit possible immediately>wait hes asian so it might be true>actually he just cheated on the test>he also has the biggest cock in history>wait hes asian so thats probably wrong
>>520280274>says the dumbest shit possible immediatelywhat makes believing in Jesus dumb?do you have some argument to falsify the Christian worldview?
>>520280530Most Christians don't choose to believe consciously it's compulsive.Like diarrhea.
>>520280709what data do you base this assertion on?do you hold to doxastic voluntarism or involuntarism?
>>520276131big bang theory was created by a catholic though
>>520269590The actual smartest man is Gnostic.
>>520269590
>>520280856What data do Christians support their beliefs on?Anyone can have a belief it doesn't mean anything.
>>520281201that's true but doesn't negate what it's saying.it's not>hurrrrr atheists believe big bang theory without evidence!it was>atheists came up with some dumb less parsimonious cosmogony in order to escape the divine implication of the big bang theory (steady state)
>>520280709>Christians don't choose to believeone of the most common atheist "arguments" is that no human can choose to believe something therefore it's not their fault when God sends them to hell for not believing in himYou're a classic example of an atheist midwit: twisting reality in a way you're too dumb to comprehend in an effort to mock Christianity (which you failed to do) like an edgelord teenager
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>>520269780Didn’t read, memeflag.
>>520277466You know nothing of the Christians and their religion. When SHTF, I will take pleasure in killing you. See you soon.
>>520271555Catholics were the first Protestants. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own lusts, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
That chink bug is not the smartest man in the world. He was tested by his own IQ testing company, which has less than half a dozen employees. If he was the smartest man in the world, he would speak abetter engarish
>>520281716lmaonow scroll up to where you're asking chatgpt for answers to questions you're being asked, christjeet.
>>520282264roko's basilisk is going to buttrape you
>>520269590the second highest is also a believer but according to "studies" religious people are supposed to be the "dumbest".Another thing that is pretty curious, look for all the greatest inventors in human history and they all just so happen to be men of faith too, and if not they were into the occult and shit. Atheists and devil worshippers have never invented anything. Even the creator of the atomic bomb, Oppenheimer, was into Hinduism.
>>520281716Why do I need to give "counter-evidence" when Christianity is a religion?Religions are belief systems not emperically deduced paradigms.
>>520282828because you're not saying "i don't believe X"you're saying "believing X is dumb"it implies you think you have good reasons or evidence to dismiss it, so it's fair to ask for counter-evidence.
>>520281547Why believe in Christianity?
>>520282482>the new christcuck shills actually post their chatgpt conversationsgood morning, saar
>>520283026Then according to that logic anything disproven in the Bible would falsify its own narrative.The Earth is older than 6,000 years, for example.So it's either true in all circumstances of reason, or it's falsified through bogus claims. Not to mention moral imperatives aren't scientifically derived in the first place. So when you ask for evidence to disprove a belief you're arguing in bad faith.You're turn AI.
Let's hear him explain why he believes in it.
>>520283063whim, as you pointed out earlier. some people are drawn by personal intuition or upbringing.the historical evidence.the experiential evidence.
>>520269590koreans are most dysgenic tribe in Asiafakeshould have used chink instead
>>520269590>Korean ChristiansThey ain't that smart.
>>520283228>Then according to that logic...how in the name of common sense did you get any of that from what i said?seriously, walk me through your thought process.i am genuinely curious.
>>520269590lol this guy is full of shit
>>520283435
>>520283309Experience is legitimate but interpretation is up for debate.A schizophrenic is legitimately experiencing voices but scientists interpreting that experience is not his experience but a deduction of clinical observations.Being religiously delusional, while socially acceptable, isn't scientific or emperical.>>520283435Because I'm more intelligent than you lol.That's why you can't reason through.Reread what I wrote and even meditate on it if you need to.You're so quick for answers and being right that you miss genuine insights when they're spoon-fed to you.
>>520283609Easy.Why does AI take Biblical literalism as a premise in this argument?I never claimed that so it has to be the operator of the AI.
>>520269590Correlation does not equal causation.
>Go on twitter>Make outrageous claim like you have almost 300 IQ that only giga retard facebook boomers would actually believe>Collect MAGA and AIPAC gibsIt's that easy?
>>520276066>in the mean time, >300,000 Catholic / christian churches in USA alone>Christianity is the largest cult>christians / jesuits destroy real science and literally kill real scientists>"ancient churches and cathedrals" aren't churches or cathedrals>there are 5 ancient networks of free energy generators around the world that catholic church hides>Catholic church is running open borders operation and niggerization / browning of USA , Europe and white countriesLooks like the Catholic church has been responsible for economic , scocietal ,and scientific collapse everywhere, and not magic "atheists".
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>>520269590Unironically he is tard wrangling. I also tell retards to be good or they'll go to hell forever or some dumb shit in hopes that it will keep them from doing even more destructive retard stuff than they already do.
>>520283754>Why does AI take Biblical literalism as a premise in this argument?the 6000 years thing
>>520284049Alright then if it's rhetorical evasion then state your thesis.
>>520269590Exceptions don't make the rule on the contrary
>>520282643>according to "studies" religious people are supposed to be the "dumbestThat's just a false artifact that occurs due to survivorship bias. The dumbest people in society are not surrounded by enough atheists to copy their beliefs the way they copy religious people, so that shifts atheism to a higher IQ than the average. The exact same thing happens with the US all-volunteer military: they unexpectedly have a higher average IQ than civilians because they don't accept 70 IQ retards. Meanwhile, 70 IQ retards can still go to church yet 70 IQ retards don't typically go around saying God doesn't heckin exist. It's all about the lower end of society and how they copy behavior, nothing moreOnce we get past the lower end and averages and actually focus on smart people atheists are underrepresented per capita and it shows. They have to desperately resort to the coping mechanism that agnostics are all atheists, which is wrong according to almost all philosophy encyclopedias. This is where the atheist midwit meme (fact) comes from. This is why the smartest people in the world believe in God more often than not despite the correlation at the midwit level. This is why atheists in this thread will say this post is cope instead of pointing out a flaw to it like an intelligent person would do.
>>520284146So I have to go line by line through the entire Bible, and disprove each idea, in order to falsify it completely?I disagree because that's already metaphysically evident.I don't have to deconstruct the entire series of Harry Potter to know wizards don't exist. Why is the Bible an exception in this regard?
>>520284199simple, calling belief in Jesus "the dumbest shit possible" isn't a neutral opinion, it's a positive claim that the Christian worldview is intellectually indefensible.if you stand by that, produce the argument or evidence that justifies the dismissal.
>>520269590Fake and gay
>>520284383Alright then belief in the Christian faith through evidence presented in the Bible is irrational.
>>520271555based
>>520284459c'mon man.
>>520283063You've desperately dodged apparently every single question the other anon has asked you so why do you think I'll entertain questions form a midwit like you? Answer his questions directly and maybe you'll get yours answered back. He asked: >what data do you base this assertion on? >>520280856>do you hold to doxastic voluntarism or involuntarism?And you dodged that question like a cowardAnswer it. You won't. Like all atheists, you cannot discuss religion in good faith. You'll dismiss the questios above again for invalid reasons, and when your reasons are debunked you will just start lying. It's guaranteed.
>>520269590CHING CHONG BING BONG
>>520284952You don't have a rebuttal because the principle of parsimony tells us,>There is no such thing.>>520284972It's more like Christians keep begging the question.The only answer you don't see as dosging is,>God is real.That's why I claimed earlier you're arguing in bad faith.You aren't actually sincere in moving past your "faith".It's irrational to begin with.
>>520269590>The smartest man on the planet believes in kike-on-a-stickHumanity is a joke. No wonder the aliens aren't contacting us; we are literal apes to them.
>>520269653An antiChrist for sure. One of many in these evil times. The kikes have many tools in their shed. Look at the satanic losers kvetching at your post.
>>520285127you're now in the profound mental retardation territory.i've repeated asked for one concrete reason why the Christian worldview is intellectually indefensible.all you've given me a vague "it's irrational if you only use the bible"how is it irrational? and are you saying it's not irrational if you use extrabiblical evidence on top of that?
>>520284459That's not evidence or an argument it's an empty claim. You unironically really are 85 IQ like the AI says >>520285127Did you reply to the wrong person? That is so unrelated to what I said it's as if you're on a hallucinogenic drug. >arguing in bad faithApparently you think I'm the other anon because you don't know how this site works?In that case you just proved you are "arguing" in bad faith because you attacked the person instead of the reply. I'm a different person, you have no reason to attack me but you did. Bad faith
>>520285669I think gsTMIu55 might be a chatbot or a literal 80 IQ retard indian that is using a chatbot to fill in his replies and also translate for him. It can't even remotely infer the topic of a reply (typical of someone reading a poor translation) and it dodges every single question we've asked it
>>520285669How is that escalation?Lol.Also I doubt very seriously you have an IQ of 140.>>520285756Idk why you're trying to confuse me because last reply was directed squarely at you.If you want to believe in Christianity then that's your thing.It's just irrational.
>>520286004>Also I doubt very seriously you have an IQ of 140.yeah i'm a midwitin IQ wankery threads everyone's usually way higher than mealso, what does "irrational" mean to you in the way you're using it?
>>520286270What is that like an online test? Lol.I'd say you're around 100, maybe 95.I've talked to people in the 120 range and that isn't you.You get confused by abstractions and can't reason larger meta-ideas in the discussion.A 120 person, while being challenging, would be able to keep up and present a counter-argument without AI.That's not you senpai, I'm sorry.
>>520286594i wasn't using AI for argumentation, i was using it to show you that it thinks you're retarded.back to the meat of the discussion, what does "irrational" mean to you in the way you're using it?
>>520269590>>520285097>CHING CHONG BING BONGI thought the Jews said they were the smartest people.
>>520286004>Idk why you're trying to confuse me You have confused yourself because you're too dumb to know this board has poster IDsYour ignorance exposed that you are arguing in bad faith because you thought I was someone else and wrongly attacked me, proving you're attacking the person and not attacking the words of the personYou're pathetic and a completely dishonest retard, probably indian>Christianity >It's just irrationalfalse claim from a bad-faith-arguing moron
>>520286686If you were that intelligent then the connotation versus denotation of the word "irrational" wouldn't be kicking your ass.Notice how I'm making commentary on your own thinking we're your stuck on just calling me a retard.That's the different between an average and above average IQ Anon. And there's people even smarter than me.>>520286775The IDs are indeed consistent and I responded to you.Man you're triggered. If you don't want to lose or challenge your belief in God then obviously don't reply to me because I'm not falling for it.
>>520286959>The IDs are indeed consistentNope. You said:>I claimed earlier you're arguing in bad faithYou never claimed that towards me you said that to someone elseYou're a complete moron, that is why all your arguments against Christianity are so bad and dishonest and why you have to lie when you get caught being a total moron
>>520286959>blah blah blah okay, but what does "irrational" mean to you in the way you're using it?
>>520287369Alright then let's give you the benefit of the doubt.Are you willing to give up your faith?
>>520269780Based, abrahamicucks be seething rn
>>520287433Go find the definition for the word irrational and post it here.I'm not doing your homework for you.
As the dumbest person in the world, I'm simply not going to believe in god.
>the smartest man in the world figured out that he could grift christiansclever gook
>>520287510>let's go with the dictionary definition, i'm too slimy to define the term i'm using myselfokay, >irrational: not logical or reasonable.so your evidence for claiming the Christian worldview is intellectually indefensible is that it's "not logical or reasonable"demonstrate how it's not or walk it back.
>>520287837Here's a more interesting question, why is a Christian worldview rational?Wouldn't faith in God be apriori to reason? Therefore making debates unnecessary?
>>520287471>You're a complete moron>let's give you the benefit of the doubtBwahaha!! Glad you give me the benefit of the doubt when I prove you're a lying moron
>>520288013>Here's a more interesting question,pussy.>why is a Christian worldview rational?the "why" is because it's truethe "how we can know it's reasonable" is the fact that some of the greatest minds that ever lived from aquinas to plantinga have been reasoning with it for millennia and all of their writings and thoughts are available to you if your fingers are resting on a keyboard.>Wouldn't faith in God be apriori to reason?no.
>Bugman has an opinion about submitting to a flavor of authorityI bet that fucker believes in women's rights and feminsm too.If he wants to prove he's smart, he needs to touch some topics that our friend Langan does. The real smartest man in the world.He's gnostic too or in that ballpark. Anything else is just oversimplifying god.Religions with any human images at the helm, are nothing but systems created by humanity to appeal to retarded peasants and to rule over them.
The whole point of ChristianityIs to get to the point where you have to choose between God, and saving a human beingAnd if you weren't larping, you'll save the human.Now, guess which choice God wanted you to take all along
>>520285669The problem is philosophy faggots are pseuds who can't into history, the physical, or material, so anything that disproves the claims made in the bible are simply handwaved away. Metaphysics, particularly as practiced by abrahamics, is just one big jewish charade, where you use shell games to define god into existence. This of course is achieved through various undefined axioms, tautologies, and presuppositions, and then it's determined that the bible must be true because the numerous physical impossibilities are reconciled by the aforementioned shell games. Don't even get me started on the inherent circular logic in defining the "goodness" of god.
>>520288445that's nice sweetie.i don't see an argument in this histrionic rant though.
>>520288313I'll accept your concession then because you didn't answer my question.Goodbye.>>520288324Appealing to authority doesn't make a religious perspective true.
>>520288595Pussy.
>>520269590he realized he can make the most money by grifting to retarded christcucks
>>520270154Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>520288629>me: demonstrate how the Christian worldview is not logical or reasonable or retract the claim>you (dodge): why is Christianity rational? isn't faith a priori to reason?>me: it's rational because it's true and there's evidence of a sustained rational defense>you: authority =/= truth the point of the authorities cited was to show that the worldview has been reasoned with extensively, they were cited to demonstrate the reasonableness of the worldview and not as proof of the truth itself.you've still provided zero demonstration of irrationality.
>>520289120I would counter that by saying epistemology has since evolved. Those cultural artifacts during Aquinas' time have changed. They weren't a result of reason but behaved as ontological starting points for examining theosophy.The European enlightenment for example has move beyond Aquinas.
>>520289432still no demonstration of irrationality on the part of the Christian worldview.no specific contradiction, incoherence, or evidential gap in Christian claims.the original burden was to show how the worldview is "not logical or reasonable."you say we've moved beyond aquinas without naming which arguments fail or why post-enlightenment epistemology (lol) invalidates them.i'll give you one last chance to justify your claim.
>>520289753Then leave I don't care.I've already stated in previous posts the absurdity of believing the Earth is 6,000 years old and that the Bible is falsifiable.If you want to be delusional then that's your business.I'm not going to save you from ignorance nor care to.
>>520289867no justification, no retraction, just a meltdown.you've demonstrated that atheism is intellectually indefensible.
>>520290014I'm not an atheist I'm agnostic.
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>>520281201catholic/jesuits are evil antichrists hellbent on squashing true christianity, this is kindergarten level stuff btw, so you have no point with that comment
IQ is for losers. All that matters is what you achieve in life. Nancy Pelosi is better than him.
>Hey man, you should totally convert to Christianity™, I am very smart ;)Cool, I'm down. Are you ready to provide evidence and proof that your claims are true, in a way we can verify?>Uhh... actually I can only use the claims from my holy bookCool, so how can we convert the events are real, and that Jesus was God, and that he resurrected?>Uhh... eyewitnesses.. uhh history people say he was real because Josephus mentioned him So? Why would I believe the written word of other people? If you claim to represent God, should we not see empirical truth and evidence? Don't you claim to represent truth and only truth? So why can you not offer me any truth?>Uhh... it's like... belief and shitSo, you're saying you have no proof.>Uhh... demon... kike... jeet... atheist.. uhhHAHAHAH. Every single convo goes like this. What kind of "smart man" prefers fantasy over evidence. Thousands of discussions with Christians (and other religious tards), and they never offered a single proof.
>>520288629>you didn't answer my question.>Goodbye.ROFL You didn't answer a single question I asked you pathetic little ratAgain, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt when I proved you're a lying moron that is wrong about everything you say against Christianity :)
>>520270173Swarthy, brown bouncers, that is where genius resides!
>>520290882>Cool, I'm down. Are you ready to provide evidence and proof that your claims are true, in a way we can verify?>Uhh... actually I can only use the claims from my holy bookwatch literally any debate and see if that's how the exchange goes
>>520291006Well if you're unwilling to doubt your faith then why even engage with me?
>>520284459bro ur legit 90iq tops or your have a vehemently ingrained resentment towards christianity, either from media/movies/music or because you want to partake in some sin that you know you will never let go, so you instead choose to plug your ears and scream it cant be real
>>520290882>Why would I believe the written word of other people?Your wall of unbelievable cope conversation you're having with yourself is debunked by pic related
>>520291260You know to be really honest with you I don't care about IQ.
Professing Christianity makes the Talmudists and zuttsluts kvetch immediately and greatly on this board, so it seems like the right thing to do.
>>520286594>ive talked to ppl in the 120 and they believed what i did so thats how i know they are smart and rightso what about the highest iq guys in the world believing in God and christianity?
>>520291546>highest IQ guysYou mean like in memorizing things? Because that's the stated man's proficiency
>>520269780I can make the same copy pasta about about science or your precious talmud
>>520291546Pythagoras ran a cult.Who cares?
>>520291118>Well if [strawman] then why even engage with me?Because it's fun and useful as a Christian to expose your anti-Christian stupidity and dishonesty for all the world to seeSo keep it up! *except don't keep lying, that is sinful
>>520291111This is how all my "debates" with Christniggers have ever gone. You/they have no concrete proof, absolutely NOTHING to offer so they default to either claiming that they can only provide verses or ad hominem attacks.>>520291314As if we haven't had enough examples of death cults in our time? Are you seriously saying that people don't do stupid shit for their beliefs? And furthermore, it has always been about power. Christian leaders leverage their golem christniggers against civilizations and take over. It has always been a giant mafia, hence its power - just like Islam.
>>520291750You might be mentally ill lol.
>>520291805>This is how all my "debates" with Christniggers have ever gone.i challenge you to go to the archives and find one debate between a Christian and atheist that goes>atheist: show me the proooooooof!>christian: i can only use the bible... :'(hell, even earlier in this thread i posted this >>520283309
>>520291843>copeAgain, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt when I proved you're a lying moron that is wrong about everything you say against Christianity :)
>>520290882>Why would I believe the written word of other people?you believe the earth is round, science is real, men can be women, niggers arent different in any way except skin color, etcyou believe all of that because kikes wrote it down...... wait until you learn why they wrote those things down and how they work for and that they hate christianity because they hate Christ because they hate God and thats why you believe what you believe, because you've been brainwashed since birth by people who are at war with God/Christ
>>520292237Yeah you're right.Christianity is true. And it's the only truth.
>>520292333new convert?sweetwelcome brother
>>520291805"debating" hobbyist debaters on a basket weaving forum is not enough buddy, watch an actual curated debate...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GaZWhmO074&pp=ygUrYXBvc3RhdGUgcHJvcGhldCBhdGhpZXN0IGRlYmF0ZSBpcyBnb2QgcmVhbA%3D%3D
>>520291805>leverage their golemThanks for immediately proving you're a jewish rat pic related, that makes it easier )^;Every SingleTimeNo wonder you're so schizophrenic you have an angry conversation with yourself ROFL!No wonder you can't refute the meme and just deflect like a typical kike rat ROFL!>And furthermore, it has always been about powerNope. That's just another one of your dumb jew lies. The meme you ran away from even addresses this; the original disciples all died powerless. It wasn't about power whatsoever you lying little kike rat
>>520269780Hi ChatGPT. This guy literally has over 100 IQ points on you. You're like an ant attempting to respond.
>>520269715
>>520275949Left: world if whites affirmed lifeRight: world that christcuckery lead to
he got a shelf full of gold medals and trophies to prove he's the smartest nigga in the world
>>520292195Poor guy doesn't know about evangelicals, that take every single word of the bible as the word of God and thus utilize scripture almost entirely for their debates (good chunk of hardcore christniggers online lol).>>520292325>you believe the earth is roundDon't need to believe that. Can easily verify based on positions of stars in the night sky, great circle routes, basic physics, or 1,000,000 other ways. Thank you for proving you are retarded.>science is realIt is real. How do you think you can post on a computer. You think it was built by magic? You think we discovered the concept of electricity through faith? Nigger.> men can be womenOnly low IQ people say this.>niggers arent different in any way except skin color,Only low IQ people say this.>you believe all of that because kikes wrote it downNo, that's you. You believe kike tales: christnigger edition. Anyone with a brain demands rigorous proof and objective data.
>>520288324It really is strange to me how you go for the greatest minds, yet don't bother with religion and philosophy parallel development and formation with the growth of actual knowledge of the laws and the world. You idea by itself is that these people you would remark to defend your position were right, but other developments which differ must be wrong. This is not how a proof works.
>>520292333>lying moron that is wrong about everything you say against Christianity :)>AGAINST>Christianity is true. And it's the only truth.Thanks for admitting Christianity is the truth and only truth That statement is not against Christianity, so it is not one of your many lies as per what I said.
>>520292447Nah.>>520292680You're welcome.
>>520292636>Poor guy doesn't know about evangelicalsi am an evangelical though.watch the evangelical william lane craig debate some of your guys tonight.
>>520269590>SmartCalculators aren't smart
>>520292460>3 hour videoTl;dw, I am not watching this. Not because I don't want to, but because I have sat through close to 50 lengthy christnigger videos promoted by believers only to end up with 0 relevant or interesting information.>>520292481The OG jews are long gone. It's been 2 thouand years buddy. They got absolutely DOMINATED and ERASED by the Romans. Scattered and rootless, no nation for 2,000 years. Whatever was left mixed with locals. Anything you see in modern day are just Slav-German-Semite-Italian hybrids with some Dutch-Anglo here and there. In short: turbomutts. Give up, you won't win with your failed world view kek.
>>520269653https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ8z860DZAIShortened version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Gpo12Ku3M
>>520292878>Tl;dw, I am not watching this.i haven't actually watched that particular one either,the participants in that exchange are pretty interesting though.dyer's really sharp and AP was an atheist and even hosted matt dilahunty's show a few times, but recently converted to orthodox Christianity.
>>520292770Who are "my guys"? You don't even know my world view. And no, I'm not an atheist or Jew or Jeet or Chink or any variety of goblin. If anything, a student of the universe.
>>520292636>No, that's you. You believe kike talesthe kikes you are referring to did not write the bible, they are actually fake kikes that converted a couple hundred years before Jesus showed up. white men wrote the bible, with blue eyes, fair skin and light hair, the turkish/khazarian "kikes" of today are liars and the bible even says so, which is also a reason to believe in it, because 2000 yrs ago it was written that there would be fake jews who are actually antichrists and are of the synagogue of satan, revelations 2:9 and 3:9, just fyi thats one of the reason people believe in the bible/god, because of the prophecies that have come true and that continue to come true. There are MANY prophecies written hundreds of years before Christ that claim he will come and the things that happened to him will happen, psalm 22 for example about his crucifixion is a good one. also you cant easily verify the earth is round btw, if that was true wouldnt all the pre midieval peoples have concluded that as well? they mapped the stars and used them for navigation, remember the pyramids? the pyramid of Giza points directly at the north star ya know?>basic physicsagain pre 1500s people understood basic physics and they still didnt assume the earth was round> 1,000,000 other wayslol ok sure but the ways you explicitly wrote out dont even prove itagain you believe these things because you learned them in school while reading a text book written by kikes... so you clearly believe in fairytales you cant personally prove any of those claims but you have faith that they are true
>>520291805Not just a proof, they usually don't even understand the concepts of a counterargument and an ambiguity. In the end, those who do have to seethe or completely ignore how the logic works, or actually come to a conclusion that they can't prove it, but still want to believe (which is completely acceptable)
>>520292729Thanks for admitting Christianity is the truth and only truth>>520292878>seething jew describing its mutt historyNeat. Don't care. Historical Jesus as well as theh Israelites weren't jewish and that's all that matters. "jew" is a rat race and religion your ancestors formed after Jesus as a response to Christianity. You always started out as mutts and shocker you're still mutts 2k years later >They got absolutely DOMINATED and ERASED by the RomansNo you didn't. Hadrian supposedly only killed about 20% of your kike ancestors tops. No historical source says more than that, it's just like the holocaust: fake numbers to pad your jewish persecution complex. Hadrian even bent the knee to your jew ancestors and allowed them back into Jerusalem once per year as a concession/appeasement. They were absolutely never kicked out of Rome by Hadrian of course. Prove me wrong kike, I dare you.You won't, and thereby it is your admission you're a kike rat )^;
>>520293153>uhh actually i'm a vedic cosmopanpsychist who follows the teachings of gurdjieff's enneagramyeah i don't careall antichristians are the same to me
>>520293612I'm glad it made you feel better.
>>520293374>the kikes you are referring to did not write the bible, they are actually fake kikes that converted a couple hundred years before Jesus showed upSo who did they convert from!? > the turkish/khazarian "kikes" of today are liars and the bible even says soOh. Khazaria wouldn't even be a thing for like what... 700 years later? And it was a pitiful and largely irrelevant state that eventually got wrecked. Why am I supposed to lose sleep over nobodies?>because 2000 yrs ago it was written that there would be fake jews who are actually antichrists and are of the synagogue of satan, revelations 2:9 and 3:9,Been a while but I'm pretty certain at least one of those lines is referring to a specific Church in what is now modern day Turkey.> There are MANY prophecies written hundreds of years before Christ that claim he will come and the things that happened to him will happenCool, can we see them ourselves then?>also you cant easily verify the earth is round btw, if that was true wouldnt all the pre midieval peoples have concluded that as well?Try going closer to the north pole, and then the south pole (hell, even hemispheres will do) and compare the observation results of the position of the stars. Guess which model is accurate... a spherical one! Wow. If you get different results, post them ;) it will be quite the "revelation" heh.>the pyramid of Giza points directly at the north star ya know?Yes because it's largely fixed at a specific latitude only ever so slightly orbiting the celestial north pole. Also notice that Egyptians were competent, and not useless semitic niggers with no skills. Your precious "blue-eyed blonde jews" couldn't even construct their own temples. 1st - Phoenician masters. 2nd - Romans. Sad.>again pre 1500s people understood basic physics and they still didnt assume the earth was roundActually it was quite well known. Eratosthenes?
>>520269590NoThe world's smartest man just figured out there is a shitton of money in reinforcing and pandering to the delicate and backwards worldview of Christians.
>>520269590>Highest IQ>Over 160 and even 210Oh wow, almost like he doesn't have high IQ but some random number he claims to be IQ
>>520293933why don't do you do it too then?not like valuing what you perceive as truth is something that maximizes your darwinian fitness.
>>520293697I'm not anti-christian. I'm anti-liar and anti-charlatan. Which is why I will equally attack Muslimniggers, LGBTqueers, or any other doctrine built upon propaganda, brainwashing, lies, and a refusal for transparent direct proof.
>>520269590This post needs a "Fuck chinks" "That's a korean" IQ meme reply
>>520294075so what are you then
>>520292878you dont need to watch the whole thing child, just listen to some of the points and then do a bit of research on your own to confirm the logic, we are talking about our eternal souls here, its worth 10000s of hours of research.>The OG jews are long goneno they arent they were pushed north by the assyrians, they became the europeans, you dont know that? you know the bible plainly says it r-right? Jesus tells his disciples to go out and find the lost sheep of isreal, do you know where the disciples went after Christ died? they went north to europe, Jesus says his people will hear is words and will know they are true when they do and will be his people, do you know what groups of people became Christian after Christ died? white peoples, do you know God promised Abraham his children would be the fathers of 'many nations', this excludes the modern "jews" as they are the fathers of 0 nations and hardly even have their own single nation, whereas white people are the fathers of many, france, germany, england, ireland, scotland, whales, america, etc, God promises that his true people will bless the whole earth, what other group of people improved the entire earth? who invented modern medicine, cars, planes, hospitals, electronics, A/C, plumbing, etc etc etc literally etc etc etc, was it niggers? jews? asians? no, it was whites, God says that his people will spread the gospel across the whole earth, which peoples brought the bible to every country? which peoples invented the printing press even allowing such a feat to be remotely possible? wake up child, if you are truly white then God is waiting for you to give him a call, just try this, at night before you sleep try praying to Jesus and ask him to give you proof, try it for a couple nights sincerely, and if you are truly white and sincere you will be given proof, i promise.
How can the Bible be the World of a all knowing God when it's terribly written and full of inconsistencies? Even the four Easter stories varies significantly from one another.
>>520294035Because I refuse to validate and reinforce a shitty religion like Christianity because that will destroy the world. Im not after short-term personal gains in order to appease masses who would just as quickly put me or anyone I know to the torch for simply being slightly different. Christians are not good bedfellows, get into the cult for money like the other top-dogs and mega pastors and you'll have to wear that shitty mask for fools the rest of your fucking life.Power is not worth it.
>>520293709Christianity is true. And it's the only truth.Thanks for 100% affirming this. >>520294075>I'm not anti-christian. I'm anti-liar and anti-charlatan>I'm not anti-Gasoline, I'm anti carbon dioxide DUUURIf you're against CO2 but NOT against gasoline...then you must believe gas and CO2 are unrelatedIf you're against liars but NOT against Christianity... then you must believe lies have nothing to do with ChristianityPainfully simple logic huh?Thanks for admitting lies/charlatans have nothing to do with Christianity
>>520294547>Because I refuse to validate and reinforce a shitty religion like Christianity because that will destroy the world.how would it destroy the world to have everyone unified in purpose and values?isn't fragmentation and moral relativism more likely to lead to chaos than shared meaning?
In the end it always comes to this. They fail to dispute and have to change their tactics to the kikeish behavio(u)r. Many great minds have noted this, thus I say it's the only spoken truth. Off to an actually good thread now.
>>520294319Like I said, a student of the universe. Anything and any information that gets closer to accurately describing our reality, universe, and nature of existence. Am I in favor of the theory of God? Absolutely (yes there are good reasons for this which I will not mention to you for now). However, organized religion and their deluded golem followers never offer anything remotely interesting or truthful. I can see a creator originating a complex universe with certain rules, constants, and properties. What I cannot see is God walking around as a Jewish priest in 1st century galilee. This is ridiculous.
>>520269896He posts a website that he owns which claims he is the smartest. Its a fraud gook who is a wannabe white.
>>520294973so you're open to a creator but only if it stays abstract and impersonal?seems like you're fine with metaphysics until it starts making historical claims.but if the universe has rules, constants, and intelligibility, why rule out the possibility that the creator could also reveal itself in time and space?
>>520294446Lmao... this poor guy is having a brain meltdown over wanting to be Jewish so badly. Ok little guy, you are definitely a Jew ;). Why am I supposed to care that much about Jews again?Greeks, Romans, Egyptians were all vastly more grand. Their civilizations outlasted the Jews by a thousand years or more. In fact, Egypt and Sumer already existed when Abraham was but a sperm for a thousand years. He is after all, from Ur. But please continue your larp fantasy over a third rate people that never did anything except spread a work (the old testament was lost by the way, and greeks spread the NT).
>>520295189I'm not ruling it out. I'm saying that if he did, there should be proof of such? Proof beyond empty words written down in text by -who even knows-, hundreds of years later. "Faith only" can and does apply to any faith and movement, that doesn't make it special or truthful. Remember, Christians themselves always proclaim it's about "truth". Well, I'm ready to see it when the Christian community is ready to offer something of tangible substance.
>>520291111No, usually they are too uneducated to even know their own holy book.
>>520269590How is this measured? Can he rebuild an engine? Can he survive in the bush alone for years? Can he fly an aeroplane? Can he do brain surgery?
>>520293841> 1st - Phoenician masters. 2nd - Romans.both of these are isrealite peoples btw so this isnt the own you think it is>Also notice that Egyptians were competent, and not useless semitic niggers with no skillsagain also isrealite bloodyou seem to be a little confused on the genealogy part, there are 12 tribes of isrealites and they are diverse, "semetic" just means son of shem btw>Cool, can we see them ourselves then?(the prophecies)a quick google search will list the many messianic prophecies in the bible and i gave a good one psalm 22. >Been a while but I'm pretty certain at least one of those lines is referring to a specific Church in what is now modern day Turkey.you say its "been a while" so are you saying you've read some of the bible or once believed? because if so then how are you not aware of the fulfilled messianic prophecies in the bible?>Khazaria wouldn't even be a thing for like what... 700 years later?yes... and revelations was written in the 1st century and it is a prophetic book.... so this tracks that it predicted that there would be fake jews in the future, you understand the implications of prophecies coming true right? it implies that the writer had divine knowledge.>Cool, can we see them ourselves then?here is a collection of messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled:https://www.messianic.org/prophecy/a-comprehensive-list-of-messianic-prophecies
>>520295570>Younghoon Kim is the Founder & CEO of NeuroStory, a company focused on using AI and other technologies to develop brain health solutions. >He is also recognized as the holder of the world's highest IQ, with expertise in fields like psychology, neuroscience, and linguistics. >Kim's work emphasizes making brain health accessible to underserved communities and combines his scientific pursuits with a strong public declaration of his Christian faith.
>>520269590chinese are smarter than ashkenazi
>>520295577>literally EVERYONE is actually an israelite ;)LOlololololol. Doesn't it say in your own work, and by popular belief, that Egyptians and Africans are supposed to descend down from Ham btw? Kind of weird for such a competent 3,000 year old civilization that outdid the Israelites to be descended from the sinful outcast tard. That's CRAZY!
>>520290683>catholic/jesuits are evil antichristsFuck off proddie
>>520295722>saar I am AI CEO
>>520295531>-who even knows-, hundreds of years later.false, we know who wrote it and the gospels were written down only a couple decades after Christ's death and resurrection. you know making a book wasnt so easy 2k years ago right? you cant just print it out in your home printer. Also it was passed around word of mouth until it was written
>>520295722But what is that to me?
>>520295531>Proof beyond empty words written down in text by -who even knows-, hundreds of years lateryour knowledge of the quality of historical evidence we have is very off, but let's just roll with it.>there should be proof of such?why?what kind of universe demands that God be empirically verifiable on your terms?
>>520280005>chatgbtMore like chatlgbt, amirite chuds?
>>520295815>literally EVERYONE is actually an israelite i didnt say everyone, but i would say most of the fair skinned, light haired peoples, you know they nowadays say Ramses was red headed? cleopatra was white, etc. you of course know the famous Roman leaders were white right? up to a point anways of course near its collapse is when it obviously became more mixed, God judges every white nation that racemixes btw, the biggest and most obvious ones being Rome and now America.>Egyptians and Africans are supposed to descend down from Ham btwafricans are not egyptians you know theres an impassable desert that separates the two right? there were no niggers ruling egypt at any point ever.you see you pretend to be white and understanding of the racial questions but then you seem to espouse beliefs that are extremely liberal and gay, like niggers being pharoahs.... kind of outing yourself as disingenuous
Now ask him about Jews. >>520269780Peak midwit
>>520296001>>520296187Certain NT books are easily in the 90-100+ AD range. Meaning, long after the events happened lol. >what kind of universe demands that God be empirically verifiable on your terms?Any God that wants to separate himself from charlatans, liars, and deceivers. You sound like the type of person to just believe anything if it has "God's word" behind it.
>>520269826>Truth >FaithTruth doesn't require faith
smart people pretend to be christcucks for money. its a 2000 year old grift and you dopes fall for it everytime
>>520295860do some research pls before its too late, you dont have to identify with protestants or gay churchs to be a christian, the papacy is antichristian its very obvious-praying to marry = heresy-calling yourself the "Vicar(substitute) of Christ" = heresy-requiring sins be confessed to a priest = heresy-thinking the priests are doing magic and turning wine/wafers into the blood/flesh of Christ = heresy, Christ died once for all, he doesnt need to be resacrificed every sunday-catholic church claiming pope is infallible = giga heresy and they contradict eachother often-catholic church claiming there is no salvation outside of it = heresy-belief in purgatory based of a vague verse in the book of maccabees = heresy-combining religion with state/gov politics = heresy, give to ceasar what is ceasars and to God what is God's idk man etc, you want a 30min vid to explain better? or do you want to miss out on eternal life because you put your faith in a man instead of in Christ alone? the sole mediator between God and us.
>>520296341>Ramses was red headed?We don't even know if that was his original hair color or just the result over time. Would be cool though, not sure why you would think that I'm against redheads!>cleopatra was whiteCleopatra was from the Ptolemaic Kingdom. Macedonian Greek, not Egyptian.>you of course know the famous Roman leaders were white right?Sure were. And?>God judges every white nation that racemixes btwYou know Christianity is a universalist religion, right? It doesn't see nations or peoples. That's Judaism. Europeans and whites are simply higher on the IQ scale on the median. This is why Greeks and Romans were already building established massive grand empires for hundreds of years before Christianity and Christ were ever a thing lol. Go check out the Parthenon to Athena.>africans are not egyptians you know theres an impassable desert that separates the two right? there were no niggers ruling egypt at any point ever.Never said that. I'm just clowning your/biblical world view, which does say that LOL.
>>520270182>"this guy is a retard">said the guy who doesn't understand the trinity Lol. Lmfao, even.
>>520271654>>520272105Retards coping hard
>>520296445> 90-100+ AD rangeok ur moving goalposts btw you said hundreds of years before and still no, Christ died in the 30s first gospel books were compiled in the 70s, thats a completely allowable amount of time.>Any God that wants to separate himself from charlatans, liars, and deceivers.where does God claim that he wants to do this? All he wants is his people to be saved, Jesus plainly says many times that only Gods people will hear and understand his word, its not meant for everyone, not everyone will be saved, everyone was never meant to be saved, God says he made some for destruction and some for salvation, this part is complicated if you want me to elaborate on that part i will, but you are mistaken if you think God is trying to get the entire world to without a doubt believe in him, he is not trying to do that, he set the world up so that the people he predestined to be his, will be his, nothing more and nothing less.
>>520269780Tpbp
>>520294703>muh unified purposeTell me... how many denominations of Christianity are there again?Also weren't there entire WARS between Catholics and Protestants?Dont bullshit me, you slime.
>>520296445>Certain NT booksdidnt see you said "certain" this is stupid btw, "certain" nt books were written later because the events that they are written about took place after Christs death/resurrection so of course they would arrive later than the gospels(first 4 books of NT btw)
>>520296445>Certain NT books are easily in the 90-100+ AD range. Meaning, long after the events happened lol.sure, and that's still within living memory of the events, especially in a culture with strong oral transmission.by ancient standards that's remarkably close.if you dismiss that timeframe you'll have to throw out most of classical history too.also, secular scholarship dates the credal statement found in 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 to around the first easter after the resurrection.>Any God that wants to separate himself from charlatans, liars, and deceivers.that's assuming God's goal is to satisfy modern skepticism.but maybe the point isn't to overwhelm you with proof but to invite you into a relationship that requires trust humility and reflection.besides, if you demand a God who's empirically distinct from all falsehoods you're also assuming you'd recognize Him when He shows up.what if He did and you just didn't like the form?
>>520297181>weren't there entire WARS between Catholics and Protestants?sigh... catholics are antichrist man, try to keep up, they arent the true christians, 90% anyone dying a catholic is not saved, they put their faith in works and pray to idols/mary and venerate men not God
>>520297054Look, if you want to be pedantic about it, I never stated that it had to be from the time era of Christ's work. He would be born somewhere between 6-4 BC which is still part of his story. 6 BC to 100 AD is definitely in the "hundreds" range. Happy!?>where does God claim that he wants to do this? All he wants is his people to be savedCool. So how do you tell apart the true God from the false God(s)? and liar entities? Please do tell!
>>520269590I PROFESS MY FAITH TO THE CHURCH OF MISOGYNY!
>>520297181Christianity has internal divisions, and yes, history includes conflict.but fragmentation within a tradition isn't the same as moral relativism across all traditions.even with denominations, Christianity shares a core metaphysical and moral framework that billions orient their lives around.
>>520297257>but maybe the point isn't to overwhelm you with proof but to invite you into a relationship that requires trust humility and reflection.Ok, so how do I know he is the true God and not a lying demon? Maybe other religions and faiths are actually closer to God? Why yours? It requires my emotional manipulation, so this is even more sus.
>>520297315>Moving the Goalpost>No True ScottsmanRight on cue."They weren't real Christians"Im sure the Catholics said the same.
>>520297325see >>520297257>So how do you tell apart the true God from the false God(s)? and liar entities?many ways, almost too many to count, but you want a good one?Jesus says that you will know them by their "fruit" what religion/peoples produced good "fruit" throughout history? remember when i told you about how white nations invented all good modern things? thats one of these fruits, also think for a minute about pre 1940s america, where most people were just white christians, has there ever been a better time than that? a time more plentiful and prosperous?
>>520297576its common knowledge catholics arent real christians, they were always trying to kill and squash real christians, ever heard of the inquisitions?>Im sure the Catholics said the same.ok well only one of them is right, terrible fallacy btw, brainlet tier stuff
>>520297605>Jesus says that you will know them by their "fruit" what religion/peoples produced good "fruit" throughout history?I don't even know what metrics you are using here. Well, we can start off pre-Christian (and even pre-Jewish). For about 3,000 years before Christ ever walked this physical world, there had already been multiple grand civilizations. Sumer, Egypt, the many Greek states, and Rome emerging from Troy. They have built great works, had unique takes, and developed complex civilization.Quite a lot of them, Christianity actually ended up ruining. For example, the Greek states and Rome were largely decimated by a large quantity of low quality christians and relatively oppressive leaders who disbanded local 'cults'. As a result, many great pieces of work have been lost - and it took until the Renaissance for some rediscovery. I would genuinely put more points into European genetic stock being of high quality than Christianity. You can see the "fruits" of Christianity in modern third world societies and they fucking suck!
>>520297522>How do I know he is the true God and not a lying demon?that's a fair question but it assumes you'd be able to tell the difference without trust humility or reflectionif you demand certainty before engagement you'll never engageand if you reject emotional resonance as "manipulation" you're cutting yourself off from the very faculties that help us discern meaning>maybe other religions and faiths are actually closer to God1 Cor 15 creed: ~AD 30–35, names 500+ eyewitnesses, falsifiable, public, no one recants under death. no rival faith starts with that kind of historical immediacy and testable claim.
>>520297424People microtribalize.I grew up in the world you wanted. A racially homogeneous, white, Christian neighborhood. People just found other ways to segregate. The Baptists didn't speak to the Methodists. The Methodists shamed their kids for dating Baptists. And the Catholics said both were dawned.You're a fool to assume people suddenly engage in utopia for being part of a a religious umbrella. Your utopia is just as idiotic as the progressives. Except you say, "if everyone was just the same, we would have utopia. "Fuck you, my shade of gray is grayer than yours.
>>520297722You are just addicted to the no true scottsman fallacy, aren't you?
>>520278175Sheer amount of people doesn't mean shit you dumb faggot. AOC chanting her horse shit in NYC for example is an isolated event in one spec of an area. But you can't even begin to back up any statement you make. You are jus brainwashed to act like you are right.
>>520297966So I'm supposed to "trust" the "eyewitnesses" in the text? This is not how truth and proof works my man. Anything you need to "trust" and "believe in" is not truly proven. We can have this debate for any faith or topic.This is what I meant by your inability to offer proof. And tada, you are back to quoting your text (because you have nothing else).
>>520269590>Anti Christian threads full of ching Chong'sHmmm
>>520293697All abrahamics are the same. Defend Muhammad having sex with a child.
>>520298012i never said "same denomination = utopia"i said shared metaphysics/morals (one God, imago Dei, objective sin/redemption) give a common yardstick that relativism kills.baptists/methodists sniping over baptism doesn't erase the nicene creed they both affirm.that's a fixed reference area rather than a grey, the disputes stay within truth instead of about whether truth exists in the first place.progressives ditch the frame entirely>your truth, my truthwhich results in infinite fracture, zero arbitary and suicidal anomieChristianity's unity isn't uniformity but overlap enough to be able to call evil evil together.your childhood cliques prove people are petty but not that the yardstick is fake
>>520298513no, he's one of you antichristians>>520298357no, verify the text's chain>paul cites creed ~30 AD (scholarly consensus: ehrman, hurtado, habermas)>names peter, james and 500 others, most still alive and publicly checkable (v6)>written AD 55 to a church that includes skeptics and hostiles>no counter claim of hoax, instead mass martyrdom without recantationthat's not "believe my book," it's ancient hisoriography. multiple attestation, enemy attestation (james was a skeptic til post-resurrection) criterion of embarrassment (women as first witnesses) rapid spread under persecution, onomastic congruence, etccompare it with alexander's conquest (earlier bio 300 years later, accepted)or buddha's life (centuries of oral legend, accepted)you don't "trust" the text, you test the claim.if 500 lied someone would've cracked. no one did.quoting a source isn't circular if the source is the earliest evidence. you've offered none.
>>52026978080iq take. “evidence” as a semantic is tightly controlled and manipulated by conspirators who are against God.
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Jesus is God bro only 200+ iq in the club.
>>520269590Based Kikes and Pajeeets on suicide watchCaptcha Rav0s
>>520298879>that's not "believe my book," it's ancient hisoriography. multiple attestationLmao, that and the rest of the message actually reads like an LLM wrote it. Admittedly maybe just my paranoia, but I hope you actually wrote that yourself and it's not a copy paste from ChatGPT.>compare it with alexander's conquest (earlier bio 300 years later, accepted)>or buddha's life (centuries of oral legend, accepted)The difference here is that we're not proving the existence of God or his identity via Alexander or Buddha's lives. While of high magnitude, it's not quite the same as claiming to be God in the flesh that created all, is it? Ultimately, Alexander's conquests have no influence on my life, but the identity of God would. So why wouldn't we treat it far more strictly!?
>>520298879That's not how this works, nigger. I said everyone who worships the god of abraham is the same. Defend the god of abraham allowing a marriage with a child to be consummated. NOW.
>>520269780kek you memeflags are alright sometimes. the migachristkike cries out as you explain logical fallacies to him.
>>520269653>blllllluuuuuuUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFf>t.
Christcucks cry realizing that there is no forgiveness and there is no eternal life in heaven, but only the feeling that they are a pitiful lamb in the teeth of the wolves of the people who seized power in the state.
>>520298879>no counter claim of hoax, instead mass martyrdom without recantationThere was no mass martyrdom until 200 years later, what in the hell are you talking about?
>>520299514based critical thinking Ivan
>>520299068いいえ、それはうんこだ>>520299163i don't care about what you think.>>520299159i don't even see what you want me to respond to here.>i raise my skepticism to a ridiculous height when it comes to any evidence that would violate my dogmatic devotion to naturalismok>>520299722just baloney.stephen is stoned as early as Acts 7.>that's not "mass!"nero's persecution then
>>520300063Well for starters, you should stop pasting rewritten LLM content. I don't mind having people use it for research but posting that is just lazy slop. Secondly, why is raising your skepticism a bad thing here? You sound like you want to be "right" moreso than "knowing the truth". Why wouldn't we probe every possible angle and question everything when it comes to truth and God? If you claim to be for the truth, then provide it, give backup evidence, data, information, proof. We are back to square one really: Christians CANNOT provide any objective proof of any kind beyond quoting their books or relying on faith of the written accounts. Just like I said in my very first post in this thread. The same goes for other major religions as well.
>>520297963The fruits of European generic stock are the fruits of Gods chosen, that’s why he says you will know them by their fruits, he is saying you will know the true isrealites by their fruit, Gods people. >>520300295You got blasted every time this thread, some proof you ignored that was posted were fulfilled messianic prophecies, how would you explain them if not for God having given them to be written?
>>520300295oh fuck off.before the advent of AI you fags were like "heh, thanks professor google. heh i bet you had to google that, you didn't know it off the top of your head!"address the meat and not the presumed source.>Secondly, why is raising your skepticism a bad thingi'm gonna copypaste an earlier post of mine from 4plebs that was handwritten by yours truly that was shitting upon the nu-atheist reddit slogan coined by carl sagan which goes, and i quote: "extraordinary claims require ordinary evidence" it's enumerated thusly:1: what counts as extraordinary depends on your worldview, knowledge and biases. for someone unfamiliar with quantum physics, even basic quantum phenomena might seem extraordinary. this subjectivity leads to moving goalposts, demanding more evidence simply because a claim feels with your feelings uncomfortable.2: it suppresses innovation. new scientific ideas often challenge existing paradigms, and may be dismissed prematurely if labeled "extraordinary." this leads to gatekeeping unconventional research, especially in fields like parapsychology or fringe physics.3: all claims should require SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, not arbitrary thresholds. science should evaluate claims based on METHODOLOGY AND DATA QUALITY, not how surprising they feel. if a claim provides the best explanation, it doesn't need "extraordinary" evidence, it just needs adequate evidence.4: it's rhetoric, not scientific. people invoke it to shut down debate or dismiss ideas without engaging with the actual evidence, it's a lazy skeptic's tool, a way to avoid grappling with uncomfortable or complex claims.5: it reinforces confirmation bias. if a claim contradicts mainstream views, it's labeled "extraordinary" and held to a higher standard. meanwhile conventional claims are accepted with weaker evidence.6: there's no clear definition of "extraordinary evidence." more data? better data? special statistical threshold? the phrase is vague and unscientific.
>>520300428Well honestly, your view that "everyone of relevance is an Israelite" is just ridiculous, backed by nothing, and largely baloney gibberish. I would get into explaining why you are wrong, but then I looked up your ID in this thread and this was part of your posts:>you believe the earth is roundWhich makes me consider you legitimately braindead or trolling (anti-Christian troll subtly trying to play dumb?). From now on I'm going to avoid your stupidity/troll unless you offer something moderately more higher in intellect.
>>520300614>extraordinary claims require ordinary evidence'extraordinary' i mean, really shit the bed there
>>520300614Look, I'm not sure why you're posting all that text when I simply asked you for proof proving your viewpoint. I'm simply not going to consider textual narratives of "people" "witnessing" the "resurrection" and God being a Jewish rabbi in 1st century galilee. It's total bullshit just like Muhammad splitting the moon in two is total bullshit - and you obviously understand it despite "witnesses" in the text.We're not moving anywhere. You can either copepost long articles about the nature of science and knowledge, or you can start researching undeniable proof for possible converts. Until then, you will only get the hicks and the desperate hurt by life.
>>520300063>nero's persecutionThis wasn't martyrdom. This was a handful of people being rounded up and scapegoated for an incident. They weren't given an opportunity to deny their faith, only to deny or confess to the alleged crimes.
>>520301016>I'm not sure why you're posting all that text when I simply asked you for proof proving your viewpoint.i was addressing why raising the bar on skepticism is intellectually crippling, spiritually crippling in this case even>I'm simply not going to consider textual narratives of "people" "witnessing" the "resurrection" your infinite loss> It's total bullshit just like Muhammad splitting the moon in two is total bullshit - and you obviously understand it despite "witnesses" in the text.there's actual evidence against the moon splitting, whereas you're dismissing troves of evidence of something happening with no better or alternate conflicting data
>>520300766i never said it was flat, just said that that person believes its round because he read it in a textbook written by jews in school, and thats its something he couldnt then prove as a child and cant actually now prove as an adult, unless he is willing to have FAITH in what scientists write down, because he said he cant believe in the bible because he cant believe in something people wrote down, claiming that they could simply just be writing something false or a lie, its like a mental exercise, something you clearly have no experience doing
>>520301354>there's actual evidence against the moon splitting, whereas you're dismissing troves of evidence of something happening with no better or alternate conflicting dataEvidence:1. No miracles documented in the age of modern recording devices and sensors. 2. Not a single bit of evidence suggesting anyone ever resurrected.3. No magic or supernatural ever documented with proof.4. Biblical text is consistently wrong about the nature of the world. (Seriously, how can you defend the world being made 6,000 years ago!? or it's geometric nature!?).Yeah, I'm going to go with things that can be verified, not magic stories.
this enrages the resident board jidf
>>520301664>1. No miracles documented in the age of modern recording devices and sensors.check craig keener's book "miracles"it lists a ton, with medical documentation, eyewitness accounts, and peer reviewed support>2. Not a single bit of evidence suggesting anyone ever resurrected.at least 100 cases of this in the keener's work>3. No magic or supernatural ever documented with proof.you're gay>4. Biblical text is consistently wrong about the nature of the world. (Seriously, how can you defend the world being made 6,000 years ago!? or it's geometric nature!?).see above
>>520301851>you're gayCase closed, you just straight up gave up. Overall I give your effort a 4/10 rating. I've definitely had better Christian opponents. Go ahead and post those verified miracles and magic works by the way. I'm dying to see the supernatural, lol!
>>520269653overrated>>520269780He who comes to God must believe that he exists. Stopped reading, more grifting, nothing, waste of time. Burn it like the rest of the trash.
>>520271324>At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little childrenLMAO
>>520301979>>you're gay>Case closed, you just straight up gave upwell,1: i addressed your biggest points about there not being "a single shred of evidence for miraculous blah blah"2: you invoked "magic" in this context, which means you're arguing in bad faith and have had the tip of another man's penis pressed against your uvula3: the conversation was going to die here anyway as we're autosaging 300 posts into the thread>Overall I give your effort a 4/10 rating.i give you 1/10, same old tired routine from you atheists (yes you are an atheist)>no, you have to proooooooooooove it to me! i am deeply wedded to metaphysical naturalism!couching your shit lobbing behind your invincible shield of agnosticism> Go ahead and post those verified miracles and magic works by the way.buy the book
>>520301728Religion is about control. religious globalism is much more practical than political globalismpeople will go to any madness that is suggested to them
>>520302323Still no proof. I'm not buying your book btw lol. Post direct evidence next time you debate, but you WON'T because you have nothing. And I'm not even an atheist. Stop lying about my position and nature, it's seriously not a good look to just always lie. Especially when your claim in the game is "truth". You've convinced no one, good job.
>>520302469>Post direct evidence next time you debatei posted a tonruminate on this image, your soul's at stake >>520283309also, how is it a "lie" for me to think you're gay?you're canadian and an atheist.
>>520302589Stop lying repeatedly. Textual stories from 2,000 years ago aren't evidence. I'm neither gay nor an atheist. My soul is not at stake. You have been caught effectively copy pasting LLM text. It's just one lie and fraudulent post after another. I'm sick of it. Do better. Stop being a charlatan and deceiver. Post truthful evidence, in core bits, directly to the topic, without having to browse 3 hour videos or random books on miracles.
>>520269590You only need to 'believe' in something that cannot be proven or that does not exist. For example, I don't believe in water nor do I believe in trees: I know they exist.That ching chong is a stupid with high iq. IQ made in China? lol
>>520273464kek
>kikes seething Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life!
>>520301728Nothing hurts the jew more than knowing another soul is saved through Jesus Christ.
>>520302323>the tip of another man's penis pressed against your uvulaTell us more about what your pastor did to you before you reached puberty.
