I miss this state
>>520329029You lost roach
>>520329029The more shitty version of the east Roman empire?
Yeah, me too. We could be so brooos, kill the austrians, magyars and moskals together <3 Sałam alejkum!
>>520329133"You los-ACK"
I don't
Turkroaches cant make any truthful maps.
>>520329172>>520329211>>520329249Seethe harder cracker
>>520329456Calm down anatolian slave.Even with that shithole caliphate back you would still be esek turk.
>>520329029Remember what was took from us.
>>520329676Better.
>>520329189Shut the fuck up
>>520329198Says the guy who changes his path when he sees a tas kafa hair style kurd btw
>>520329772
Even Portugal had a more kino empire than the sloppomans
>>520329898Portugal defeated the anatolian slave race candidly.UK and France helped that shithole preservere.We are not the same.
>>520329189The defenders of Europe btw.
>>520329029I don't remember Greece ever spreading that far south, west or north
>>520329029we should have joined you gangraping the westcucks instead of fighting against you
>>520330161Its a turkroach bullshit map.
>>520329029We were great together...
>>520330230>We were great together...Great victims.
>>520330289Shut up lusonigger you guys lost to a bunch of moorish peasants and were subsequently annexed by the Habsburg, you are the victims
>>520330520>says the semitic-negroid race from the Loire river basinGenocide is too little for your kind.
>>520329029it reached it's zenith, the Golden Age, when the Ukrainian woman was in charge.
>>520329029>the fucking balkans were considered an economic powerhouse region The bottomans were more akin to a public toilet than a real empire. What an utter shithole
>>520331049They had control of the Silk Route and trade.But there was a little Iberian kingdom that ended that.Then they didnt collapse because the British and French need balance of power in the region.
>>520329029It was a lot bigger than that in its peak. You're missing most of North Africa and it went down to Mozambique. The Pennisula was aligned. Mecca was still a center. Persia reluctantly with it partial exchanges into the Asian steppes. At one point it invaded North India and was set to destroy Kerla.
>>520329456Keekyour map shows the reason why every country in red is still a third world shit hole
>>520330520We were the Habsburgs, illiterate nigger Emperor Maximilian, as a first cousin to John II actually had a bigger claim to the throne than D. Manuel who was once removed
>>520329961>Portuguese delusionWe buck broke them and their meme emperor, and France has more fights and wins against Roaches than anyone over the long run. Who took North Africa from them? Who took Arabians from them? Who took the Levant from them? Who took Mesopotamia from them? Who was here liberating Greece? And that's the late Ottoman state, not counting the previous Turkish states who were dominating everyone and were stopped from continental conquest from the 11th to 15th century by Frenchmen and to a lesser extent Italians and Englishmen. Let me guess you're a retard that doesn't understand the war in Crimea? Portugal was entirely irrelevant to the fight against Turks.
>>520331314Thankfully we recovered, the final solution would be to kill all the remaining mutts.
>>520332196>the 11th to 15th century by Frenchmen and to a lesser extent Italians and Englishmen.This clown.
>>520329029Why only costal areas outside of mainland were they good at shipmaking?
>>520332434Venetians.The biggest sloppoman enablers next to the French and British.
>>520329676And you sand niggers took it from other people. But don’t worry. You can still go back to Central Asia once we’ve retaken all the land captured by Muslim shitskins. The old Christian east will be free!
>>520329961We disrupted their trade routes and bled them dry around the Red Sea, but they remained a threat to Europe until Vienna. If anything, the Poles defeated them
>>520332700No christcuck can tame the islamic beast.Only a pagan non-universalist mutant like Alexander or Caesar can have the full scope of options to end islam and genocide the East Med.
>>520332434deserts and steppes are hard to control.that said, the Turks were capable seamen for muslims. at least until they got their shit pushed in at Malta and Lepanto.
>>520332727>but they remained a threat to Europe until Vienna. If anything, the Poles defeated themSponsored by the Venetians and the French that wanted the incapacitation of their Habsburg adversaries.As soon as France was defeated by Charles V, the sloppomans lost their leverage and had to retreat.But the Netherlands and the UK were ready to finance them again.
>>520330069Stfu, nigger>>520329810Lmao, buttmad kurd. Go be genocided somewhere else
>>520332802>Turks were capable seamen for muslimsName one turkish admiral.Name a single one.And dont prattle to me about kidnapped children.Think well before you answer.
>>520332927that Kurtoglu guy who blockaded Rhodes. and I did say 'for muslims'. who's their competition? Oman?
>>520332849If Charles had been more ruthless with his enemies, perhaps he would have achieved his dream of Christian universalism. Imagine how different things would be, if he had Luther burned at the stake and had François executed after his capture at Pavia
>>520333129Christian universalism is a fever dream.Any type of universalism is a dystopian nigger level disease.Racism wins always.
>>520332927They had some good ones, like Barbarossa and Piri Reis
>>520332927Calm down. All he said is they they doesn't need to be the best, they just need to be better than the desertniggers they're conquering, witch is fair. Everybody knows you used to be best and that is why there are more people speaking your language on some different far away continent than on your mainland.
GayThe Zutt-Empire
>>520333187European Christian universalism. The Reformation did a lot of damage
>15 posts by this IDdat witeboi seethin kek
>>520333244Barbarossa was a kidnapped child.Not turkish in the slightest.And by turkish I mean anatolian slave race.Piri Reis was a Dutch asset. Buttbroken by both Iberian powers of the age.Not only that he used the maps that the Dutch stole from the Portuguese to forge his plagiarism.
>>520329029shouldn't have bothered Russia and kept on attacking euro cucks
>>520333335>The Reformation did a lot of damageYes. And it helped the sloppomans with the 30 years war.But messianic judaism encapsulated as a universalistic pandemic love rhethoric has its days counted.Charles V was too much of a christcuck.A pagan ruler would have not shown any mercy.Since Frenchmen and Turks are not people. And they only deserve a quick genocide.
>>520333424They did steal a lot of maps from us, from the Cantino planisphere to Linschoten's espionage in Goa
>>520329029Our time shall come Brüder
>>520333512His son was much worse, but Philip was probably autistic. He wanted to micromanage everything. The Avis bloodline was definitely cursed
>>520333569The Dutch took the Venetian role of babysitting and coddling the Ottomans.From one merchant republic in a swamp to another merchant republic in a swamp.Had it not been for either Venice or the United Provinces.Those Anatolian zutts would have stayed down.Thats why the Genoese had such an interest with the Portuguese.To break the Serene whore in the Adriatic.
>>520333569The Habsburgs destroyed Italy. The 1527 sack of Rome was worse than the one in 410. We destroyed them financially, as we opened the Atlantic and the Mediterranean trade routes stopped being as important
>>520333672And thats why pagan leaders not affected by silly abrahamic universalism have more tools for order.You cant fight an enemy while praying for his children and thinking he is the same as you.
>>520332297Moorturguse denial of reality. Anyway I can see you have failed to answer any questions. Your precious Hapsburg were retards that were rightfully hated by everyone else in Europe to the point people considered dealing with Turks a lower annoyance. The very states and people that slowly but surely destroyed the Hapsburg over time are the very same that did the same to the Ottomans (France, England, etc). I see you fantasize about Charles V in particular, bypassing the fact that your precious Hapcucks were later reliant on their Ottoman strategy all through the 18th and 19th centuries (ahem Metternich) and were allied with them in the largest war they were ever in. Please note that Charles V at the peak of his power briefly occupied the city of Tunis. That's what he could do against roaches. Meanwhile the powers you denigrate removed two thirds of the maximum Ottoman reach from the Turks at the same time they were regularly victorious at war against the Hapscucks.
>>520333899That universalism was a response to the Islamic threat. Islam had been picking at Europe for centuries. Millennialism was what motivated Columbus
>>520329676So glad this didnt happen to italy. Imagine if Western Rome was hollowed out by Germans and italy turned into a bunch of drunk woman abusing italians that spoke German
>>520334120Nobody fetishizes the Habsburgs.Brits, French and Turks are just slave races.The same way we like Hitler, the same way we like Charles V.The genocide of the liberal-christian races and the genocide of the islamic races has to coincide.The beasts of Cromwell and Muhammad are the same.And we labour for their end.
>>520329029How can you miss what you never knew? More territory, more problems homie, which probably caused the retraction in the first place.
>>520334120The Ottomans were irrelevant in the 18th and 19th centuries. The sick man of Europe, as were the Habsburgs of that time
>>520334159>That universalism was a response to the Islamic threat.A fully competent racist state could wipe the entire muslim world with only 15 million people.You only need to take Israel as proof.
>>520334317>CromwellHe allowed Jews back in England after centuries
>>520334469Cromwell forbid Christmas and Easter.Forced the british slave race to observe the Sabbath.Mandated circumcision.And took down all "pagan" idols during his puritanical revolution.Cromwell was one of the best golem christcucks Israel has ever had in the UK.Only Churchill comes close.
>>520334120>Please note that Charles V at the peak of his power briefly occupied the city of TunisHe occupied Rome and that's the reason why England turned away from the Church. Henry VIII's cock ruled and it wanted to fuck Anne Boleyn and Charles wouldn't allow his aunt to be divorced
>>520329029SameHopefully we will be reunited soon
>>520330069They love niggers.
>>520334600Humiliation ritual
>>520334870Its not a humilliation ritual if you are a born slave.The British got easily conquered by Jewish interests filtering through Christianity as the main Jewish vehicle for power.Now they are being conquered by the next wave of Abrahamic circumcised animals.Its the way of things when Hitler is your Satan.
>>520335068The Dutch Republic was mostly financed by Jews that fled the Iberian Inquisitions. We'd be damned if we do, damned if we don't. They bankrolled our enemies. The first Jews in America were ones that fled Brasil when we kicked the Dutch out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_arrival_in_New_Amsterdam
>>520334419>You only need to take Israel as proofThey cant even take a land the size of a football field right next door with unlimited support from a military superpower, despite having it blocked off from the rest of world for decades. Turkey alone could wipe the floor with Israel if it weren't protected by the US
>>520334367>sick man of EuropeMeme journalistic expression meant as a humiliation ritual but even as late as 1915-1918 it took a five million men on three fronts to take them down and we suffered more death than they did. For all of their roachiness they can fight. >>520334718Henry the coomer and his adultery based church came later, but yes Charles V destroying the states of the church surely didn't help. I don't even know how some still claim him as some sort of hero against schism after that.
>>520335381>Turkey alone could wipe the floor with IsraelTurkey couldnt even wipe out mountain kurd monkeys for 30 years.
>>520335448>but yes Charles V destroying the states of the church surely didn't helpIt was mostly his German mercenaries. The barbarian genes kicked in, I guess
>>520329676You mad?
>>520329029yeah ok mehmet, lets discuss more pressing issues, dont take out unlimited food from your all inclusiv, ok
It's even more funny when you realise that the Ottoman Empire was ruled by converted byzantines and other stolen balkan children.However compared to the Austrians and Russians they somehow did less damage to us(at least to Wallachia and Moldova)The Ottomans had honor unlike the catholics and understood to leave us the fuck alone after they got their armies rekt and impaled and no ottoman ever moved gypsies in my Transylvania, unlike the Habsburg dogs
>>520338204Austria brought you your first university.The sloppomans brought you gypsies.
>>520329029Yet they still couldn't manage taking over a pile of rocks.
>>520338465the austrians destroyed orthodox churches and kept tranysilvanian romanians in de facto slavery, they created retarded heretical churches penticostal methodists and other memes while they got gypsies from all over the empire to move to there to make the area more ethnically diverse, they also moved jews to bucovina(the holiest part of moldova and romanian orthodoxy), wanting to make it a jew state so you understandOttomans at least were our "enemy" directly and openly, not backstabbing "brothers" claiming to help us
>>520338667No argument from that perspective.
Imagine having an empire and then loosing against this.
>>520329029The true successor of the Roman Empire.
>>520329172Yeah, the version that was taking over by Whites any way LOL
>>520339285Oriental robes and clothes have to be the most retarded thing ever.Turkroaches literally put Persian pijama trousers on their heads.Looks like a halloween custome.
>>520339374Explains why so many of them died here if they fought with that ridiculous clothing instead of knight's armor. I still like to go and take a piss in a valley where supposedly thousands of them perished.
>>520339565The thing is Mustafa Kemal actually forbid any type of Ottoman turbans and hats.And forced turks to adopt the British top hat.Even Papa Roach knew that shit looks ridiculous.
Would things be better today if we didn't pick the wrong side in WWI? Seems we didn't have problems with muslims until the Ottomans were no longer there to keep the M.E. in check.
>>520339747>Seems we didn't have problems with muslimsDidnt you create your Marine Corps specifically to take out Barbary pirates?There were only 100 million slimes on the planet in 1900.You didnt have problems with muslims til you gave them modern medicine and they turned from 100 million to 1.8 billion.
>>520339662Papa Roach was a gift from their dark chaos gods. We'd be lucky to have such a leader come in and save our asses.
>>520339747Negro, during WWI the ottomans themselves were massacring all the Christians in the ME. I think that counts as having a problem.
>>520339964He was a dönmeh from Thessalonica though.Yes he made Turkey an accessory to Anglo-American power.Yes he cucked the Turks into worshipping the West.But beyond that he really didnt do much.
>>520340077The war with the Greeks was close. Without a solid leader they would have lost. Ionia and Constantinople would be Greek.
>>520329029I miss this World.
>>520340225To an extent. But both the British and the French had an understanding they needed the geopolitics to be divided and they needed a rump state between them and Moscovia.
>>520329456Turkish women are actually the biggest whores in the entire world with highest avg amount of sexual partners and the highest infidelity rates. They LOVE BWC. I’ve fucked two turk wives in montreal, one where the husband watched and wanted to be degraded. The other cuck doesn’t know i fucked his whore wife while he was at work. She requested to be cummed on her face, which i found odd but hot because it isn’t typically something a woman requests. Thank you for your women, please send more turk whores, i want more turk sluts
>>520329029Totally understand. The prophet and you faggots could have all the space in the world to get rapped by zutts all day long. I guess you just have to settle with what you have for now.
>>520329029It was just a jewish attempt to wipe out Orthodox Christianity, since they already infiltrated and controlled Catholicism. It has really nothing to do with you, they were just using you to achieve their goals. Needless to say, they failed.
>>520339982I guess you're right, but I was talking geographically. That was over there (no pun). They weren't here att.
>>520340856And they were a non-factor demographically.China had 400 million hominids in it in 1900.4 times the number of mudslimes on the planet.
The Ottoman Empire was nothing more than a lucky country. The Byzantine Empire, except for Constantinople, had lost almost all its territory and was reduced to a city-state, while the Balkans were populated by tiny countries with less than a million people. Hungary, the most populous, barely had 2 million in the 1400s. If there had been a country in the Balkans like Western Europe, with 10+ million people and cohesive territory, the Ottomans would never have been able to advance beyond Constantinople. For example, the Ottoman Empire’s territory was several times larger than France, but its population was roughly equal. Don’t act like a conquering a few tiny city-states of a few hundred thousand made you a great empire
>>520340826They have infiltrated orthodox just as bad as catholicism. I looked into being orthodox but they have embarrassing views I won't associate with. You don’t need to follow dogmas of other men to be with christ. Non denominational personal relationship is the only way.
>>520341337Dont forget the Black Death brought by the Tatars.The Bubonic plagued showed up exactly at the same time that the Ottomans gained relevance.
>>520341389>greek orthodoxFound your problem.
>>520341389>They have infiltrated orthodox just as bad as catholicismWrong. Orthodox Christianity doesn't have one central point of leadership like Vatican is for Catholicism, it doesn't have one supreme leader who is head of whole religion like Pope is for Catholicism, and that is driving jews crazy, they just can't control it. Sure, they find some small Orthodox priests and give them money to say nonsense, in attempt to change opinions of Orthodox Christians, but it doesn't work.>Archbishop Elpidophoros of Americalmao literally who, do you think his opinions are official opinions of Orthodox Christianity? kek try again. but you are wasting your time.
>>520341782So schisms within schisms? No true scotsman? Church doctrines and dogmas are fake and gay, I can just read the book myself. I don’t need some fat retard who thinks they can interpret truth better than I can to tell me anything.
>>520341337Israel was non existent, give the Turkroaches some credit.
>>520329029How can you miss what wasn't there when you got here?
>>520341937That is quote from a patriarch..Nice cope.
>>520341937>Orthodox Christianity doesn't have one central point of leadership like Vatican is for Catholicism, it doesn't have one supreme leader who is head of whole religion like Pope is for Catholicism, and that is driving jews crazyOrthodox christcuckery is cesaropapist.The government is the Pope. Ever since the Schism.The Pope in Moscovia is Putin, for example.Christcucks are vermin.Orthodox christcucks are peak vermin.
>>520341950>I can just read the book myself. I don’t need some fat retard who thinks they can interpret truth better than I can to tell me anything.Sure you can but then that leads to actual Protestant heresies like Mormons, worshiping the Jews and whatever else the mutts invented. Orthodox church keeps the dogma itself intact and consistent even if some bishop gets pozzed.
>>520341782And how do you explain this faggotry? Big tent nigger worshipers, no thanks.
>>520341556Good point. That’s also why the Balkans were so weak. In a region already sparsely populated, the Black Death made it even harder to form a large, unified country like in Western Europe. In fact, the plague further weakened their power, making it easier for the Ottomans to conquer.The Ottoman Empire was only comparable to a single Western European country if it controlled that vast expanse of land. In fact, without even going as far as Western Europe, Poland in Eastern Europe alone defeated the Ottomans. That’s the reality.It’s like someone who looks big and muscular, but their actual strength is about the same as an average adult male
>>520342178No because i can read it and the holy spirit can guide me. I don’t need some nigger worshiper to tell me my own discernment is flawed, lol lmao even.
>>520342178>Orthodox church keeps the dogma itself intact and consistent even if some bishop gets pozzed.Kept you monkeys in serfdom til 1917 also.
>>520329029the only legacy of your muzzshit empire is polluting the balkans with your genetic filth and bringing pedo demon worship aka islam to europe
>>520329029worry not, it will returnTurkey will conquer the middle east again once the world finally moves away from oil and the gulf states go bankrupt
>>520342227https://pravoslavie.ru/132629.htmlWhat about it? That's just the general tenet of Christianity. One of the first Christians were black too.>>520342053Now this is the dumbest post in the thread, congrats.
>>520342598>once the world finally moves away from oilThats going to be tough my man.And the turks dont have the muscle to maintain 500 million arabs.Turkey is going to be Arabized in the next 50 years.They will turn theocratically sunni like Afghanistan and they will return to what they were meant to be.
>>520342598So, never? The green revolution is dead, Greta
>>520342686ivan, in case you didnt know, that portuguese flag is the most slav hater on this board, he hates anything related to eastYou arent arguing in good faith, you are arguing with someone who hates your whole existance
>>520335068The only reason the English got conquered the first time is because Hadrata chose the worst time possible to invade. Hadrata or Godwinson could have routed the Bastard's jew funded army if they hadn't had a knock down drag out battle just before. Then the first Norman king with an Anglo Saxon name, Edward, kicked the jews out in 1290, and it took them 359 years to reverse it. The fact that it's an island just makes it as difficult to help that as it is to invade them.
>>520342686The Pope in Moscovia is Putin.Just like the tsars were the leaders of orthocucks before them.
>>520342766Harold Hardrada.Not Hadrata.Hadrata is dunecoon/african tier.
>>520342759This. At some point people just start saying nonsense while thinking they made a valid point. It's a waste of time to continue replying to them.
>>520342830I stand by my post, despite my retardation
>>520342891i mean, tehnically that anon is the least racist anon on this board, for him everyone is a slav and thats why he hates everyone
Turkey will be the next country to balkanise
>>520342982>everyone is a slavSlaves are the world majority so kinda.
>>520343034i stand correct
>>520329029Show me your magnus opus temple build by the empire... oh, wait, they didn't.
>>520329029>ottoman empire REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>least autistic turkroach
>>520343121You do. Although I am not specific to slavs.My scope goes much further than slavs.
>>520329029I hope that is not a Turkish nationalist trying to say the Ottoman Empire was nothing more than a "Turkish" state.
>>520343233It was a caliphate/sultanate.Turks put the empire thing on it so they can relate to the West.
>>520342686Lmao. Niggers are “beasts of field”. They are subhumans that don’t even have a soul. This concluded my interest in your cuck denomination. Enjoy your globalism and diversity, faggot.
>turks in thread dream of imperial conquest in near future >damascus had to crawl back to russia and drop their demands of Assad being extradited because roaches can’t even defend them from Israel
>>520332855Not a kurd, just not a faggot who lives in dreams (hayallerde yaşıyor bazı ibneler)
>>520329133Only kikes "win" in modernity.
>>520329029they taught this cockroach to type on a computer, that's insane!
I don't understand this seething. Turkey is still huge compared to the UK and Germany.And actually, even though Erdogan is frightened of being toppled, and bootlicking the US and Israel, he's doing it less than we are. Turkey has closer relations with Russia and China. It's shit, but it's maintaining some semblance of independence. They even pretend to want to join the EU, and avoid their exploitation as well.
>still hugeI mean in terms of territory not lost. They even still have Constantinople. Is that not better than spinning it and other places off into tiny Balkans tier shitholes where everyone hates each other for no good reason? Look at Armenia and Azerbaijan and tell me this is a good idea - in fact, look at fucking ISRAEL's existence, and tell me this is a good idea.Some of you just hate for no reason. You don't think.
>>520346444>some of you just hate for no reason Let us look at the crimes committed by the Ottomans against christian Europeans and christians in the caucuses >forcefully castrated Greek, Serbian, Bulgarian, and Macedonian boys >the largest sex slave trade in history consisting mainly of women from the Ukraine and Crimean Peninsula >trying to invade Europe dozens of times, failing due mainly to Hungary, Poland, and Russia >the Armenian genocide because no Muslims in the caucuses revolted against the Russians >Chios massacre >Devshirme >Persecution of Greeks Oh but we aren’t done, why should you despise the Turks further?>Armed and aided Al Nusra, and ISIS>one of the main benefactors and contributors to the refugee crisis created against Europe >Constantly try to spread Islam into Europe via conquest migration Turks are Edomite blooded subhumans
