Why doesn’t anyone take pride in the work they do anymore? My dad used to tell me, no matter what your job is, if it’s building cabinets or cleaning toilets, you should do it with pride, that no job was without dignity. New generations seem to do have lost the script. Everything is done as fast and cheaply as possible. No one cares anymore. Minimal effort only. You can’t even trust tradesmen anymore to do a job right. Is this just an American thing or is this a global phenomena?
>>520455306Pride is a deadly sin
>>520455306Wages have been stagnant since the 70s in America, which means there's no tangible incentive to working harder when you're ultimately being paid less and less regardless.
>>520455306You get what you pay for.
>>520455383nobody cares about your stupid corpse god religion white cuck.
>>520455306That's just pathetic...prep work is like 80% of painting. I see this kinda shit all the time.
>>520455387this
>>520455306Shut up and be thankful the job gets done"boohoo you are not smiling enough, abloo abloooooo there is no spirit you work for money, soulless work" shut the fuck up
>>520455306>my dad used to tell me Daddy used to rape your anus every night.
>>520455306Painting isn't easy. Most people can't produce quality work. Yes, this is laziness, but it's also indicative of a person who lacks an understanding of the world around them
>>520455306Pay me more Why should the 1% hoard all the wealth while everyone else gets scraps?
>>520455441I just faaked your sisters smelly brown vagene, now I faak ur mothers
>>520455306>that no job was without dignity.was valid until the country was sold out.
>>520455306>You can’t even trust tradesmen anymore to do a job right.Pro tip: When in need of a tradesman (electrical Plumbing etc) and you have to go blindly look for the one that has the mans name rather than a generic company name.ExampleJ.K. Rowling Electrical is to be chosen overSpeedy Electrical or choose C.S. Lewis Plumbing over Best Plumbing and Pipes
>>520455441Normally I’d call you meme fag jew but I can smell you’re Indian through the screen
>>520455443DIY always want to paint but always too lazy to pay attention to baseboards and first couple feet of flooralso they never realize you can take the baseboards off, clean and paint them, and reinstall to look brand new
people used to be properly compensated for doing good work. now, we're expected to pay tip, convenience fee, service fee, and tax for niggers and spics to spit in your cold food and skimp on your portion sizes. work, thanks to the inclusion of the spiteful 3rd world, has become a punishment for suckers who weren't born rich or psychotic.Every stupid fuck who tried not to be racist made the point in trying to be "better than racism", pointless. these fucks bring people who openly tell them that their culture in lying, cheating, scamming, and fraud for us to be told we're some sort of -ist for acknowledging what they told us. there is no work anymore, there is only domination and slavery. Would you rather be a slave or the dominator? choice is yours
>>520455306You can still have things you just need 3-5x times more money to buy the kinds of labor and materials you need to get actual work instead of low bid flunkies
>>520455665go suck jew dick, kike worshiper
Fuck glue...Fuck nails...Just tape the sumofa bitch...
>>520455306looks like a landlord special
>>520455306lol they painted right over it
>>520455306You rent you poor faggot. Sorry someone else's house isn't nice enough for you.
>>520455657False. When choosing a business, choose one that isn't two letters and the trade. Like JD roofing, or RT Painting, because they are almost certainly not going to have English speaking or legal employees
>>520455306Jew, anon. Jews. >>520454628>>520454628>>520454628
>>520455441You eat poop and worship demons
>>520455306Mexican labor. This is what the libs tell you we need illegals for.
>>520455306Professionalism is dying out, Anon. It's the same here everyone does minimal effort slop jobs and they get away with it because there's hardly any talent still around. Those that do take pride in their work charge an absurd amount but you do get quality in return. I would blame the throw away "consumer" society for treating everything like it's an IKEA product.
>>520455682Fuck. I would be happy if motherfuckers just taped off. Nope...grab the brush an just start painting, right over the dust and flaking paint... lol no pride whatsoever
>>520455306>Why doesn’t anyone take pride in the work they do anymore?Too busy flossing his teeth.
>>520455665All memeflags are jeets until proven to be jews.
>>520455816I can’t even fathom the degree of not giving a fuck you would need to paint over a plastic flosser instead of removing it first.
probably because their efforts won't be rewarded. get the minimum to scrape by and you do the minimum effort. busting your balls used to be rewarded. people would work at the same company their entire lives not expecting to ever get laid off. you could buy a house. and it all started with a firm handshake.now its some cold corporation, whose first contact with you is a humiliating hr interview asking stupid fucking questions after many such corpos already ghosted you often with fake job listing. you don't get to choose where you apply to work because over half the jobs are ghost jobs so it becomes a numbers game of applying to as many jobs as possible. and you know these corpos could lay you off or replace you with a foreign worker for less pay anytime. its a heartless megacorp with no loyalty to you, and you're going to reciprocate that lack of loyalty.its like relationships. in the past you met a woman, you got married, you stayed together for decades and that was the average relationship. now we have hookup culture where the few who fuck bounce across dozens of partners over the years while the rest of us are forever alone. and even those people getting laid are not going to have the same dedication and loyalty to their hookup partners because even if they pretend the're madly in love statistically deep down they know its probably just another hookup. jobs now are the same way. and just as hookups today wont net you a family, jobs today wont net you a house.
Employers are also unwilling to supply workers with the tools necessary to successfully complete a job correctly. Construction for instance. A worker is just expected to carry a Home Depot in his tool box and use his own sand paper, brushes and primer paint.
>>520455306Because you don't get paid enough as is and you certainly don't get paid any more for doing a better job. Same problem the soviet union had with planned economies and quotas. You need to make 50 thing a month? Then you make exactly that and not a thing more.
>>520455306Little baby doesn’t like the 3rd worlder renter landlord permanently poor no possession economy? Little baby got a taste of real life how no one gives a fuck about them and nothing is ever nice or clean. Welcome to America! No refunds
>>520455306WTF IS THIS THING YOU FUCKING TELL ME RIGHT NOW
>>520455306Corpos were allowed to fuck everyone up, so why would the employees need to take pride working for them? That's American culture, or the lack thereof. A Jewish nation of white and black peasants.
>>520455306You people do not understand how awful everything is. I cannot obtain an opportunity to repair the damage, and when I do indeed repair the damage, one of you idiots gets angry for some dumb reason.This is why social media should be permanently banned.
>>520456496This shit blows my mind. I want to get a job quick so I apply to be a painter (did this for years) and they refuse to hire me because I don’t have (and I did the math) $900+ to blow on painting gear, when I’m supposed to be working for THEM.
>>520455306>>520455746>>520455816>>520456373https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bieRWvIj680
>>520455306im willing to work at a power plant
>>520455306Why do I see these things on the streets? I never see anyone walking and flossing at the same time.
>>520455306Companies don't reward loyalty in their employees so employees shouldn't reward companies with more than the bare minimum
>>520455657Also never hire ANYONE with a shamrock in their logo. 99% of the time Irish Travellers/Gypsies.
The majority of you are menial labor. You cannot be allowed to be anything greater than menial labor ever.Not a single one of you use language correctly.You're all so fucking worthless.
>>520455306Import the Third World, become the Third WorldEverything done shoddily for minimal cost. The stuff built good in the old days is all falling apart because maintenance is likewise done shoddily for minimal cost. Whatever it takes to ensure that the rich get richer.
>>520456738thrown out of car windows
>>520455306You know, it's why you hear people say capitalism eats itself in the end. The trades were the most undermined occupation due to migrant labor, so of course the quality goes to shit. Healthcare got so bad, they turned going to the doctor into someone trying to damage you by trying to get you addicted to opioids instead of healing. All just a result of pursuing profits and bribed politicians, lobbying.
Cool an abominations thread!
>>520456747Sometimes I go above and beyond at work only to get bitched at for not getting it done faster (i.e. paid less). This corporate culture really pisses me off.
Get a load of this cancerous shitstain>>520456778He'll be one of the first sucking dick when he has to improvise and think fast because everything he thought he could rely on failed him...I'd kill you if I knew for sure I'd get away with it
>>520457035Holy fuck that is great.
>>520456373There's an awful lot of shitposting in this thread considering it's a legit and deep topic.I'm so tired of the shitty work people do these days that I'm slowly and angrily learning how to do everything myself. I used to be a computer guy, and I'm no good with my hands, but I have no other choice. Everything I've paid other people to do for me has turned out dogshit terrible and cost a ton. Everything I've done myself is laughably ghetto but it all works perfectly.
>>520455567and he did it with pride!
>>520455306lol boomers are incapable of understanding this. minimum wage + no hope for social mobility = shit work. It's really that simple.
>>520456667>>520456778bot (unhinged)
>>520455306Taking pride in your work is a sign of sentience
>>520455306>white knight
A hundred years of doing pagan rituals wrong...
>>520455657I don't want a fantasy author in my home
>>520455306>Everything is done as fast and cheaply as possible. No one cares anymoreSo pay more for someone who DOES good work? Oh you refuse? You'll go with whatever was the cheapest bid?Golly gee wilickers I wonder why this keeps happening.
>>520455306Why do anything well when there's no requirement to please God? There are no good things without intention, no intention without devotion, no devotion without self-sacrifice, no self-sacrifice without humility, and no humility without ultimate judgment.
>>520455306I am going through hell that is renovations and tradesmen that I met were ok and treated their job seriously, but the stuff that is handyman work or unskilled labor is pain, and overall it is organized poorly and already way past the deadline.Just today I discovered these morons were 6mm off with floor leveller and you can't fix it anymore without removing all tile from another wall because we specifically left a 5mm gap for floor finish. I think they just didn't bother counting how many bags of leveller they needed.
Because every faggot and their mom unironically believes they're worth more than the $20 an hour they make today, when they're lucky they even get that much.
>>520455387Because our money isn't worth anything.>>520455306If your dad was working before the end of the golf standard, minimum wage was the equivalent of somewhere around $150/hour in today's fiat. (Median salary would be around $800k.) Easier to take pride in that.
>>520455306I think the wagecuck meme had something to do with it
>>520455441>advocating for filthgrats on the retardation i guess
>>520455306what I learned is that a lot of time professionals don't know what the fuck they are doing a lot of the time.but eventually you just get really good at pretending you do.
>>520455306Leftists run countries and get away with just grifting, never making any real change nor fixing anything because the grift would be over then.Now once he sheep of the population understand that then they go hey if they get away with grifting we should grift too.And here we are it's all turned into a shit grift.No real progress, no quality just the minimum to keep the grift money flowing.
>>520456200[ citation required ]
>>520455682Lol you've never done any construction kid. Removing baseboards just to paint is retarded.
>>520455306>PrideDoesn’t matter in a quantity over quality economy. Getting “shit” done and checking boxes is what matters in our society. Nobody gives a fuck about quality, nobody really checks anything. If you don’t like it, take it up with the jews.
>>520458752>{citation required} You’re a faggot and a kike. It’s common board knowledge.
>>520455306Nah I've got a co-worker who will try to avoid five minutes of extra effort and produce shit work.Don't like my name associated with that.
>>520458753Would you remove a literal flosser before painting though
>>520458752Who puts spaces between the brackets and words? Someone not familiar with the English language or American culture.
>>520455306"If you want anything done right you have to do it yourself." was always good advice. Unfortunately, nowadays it doesn't just mean painting your living room, installing your ceiling fan and changing the clutch in your truck but also things like removing your own appendix and setting your own broken bones. The competence crisis is so lit!https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/
when your dad was working, the world wasn't a shithole. people cared. bosses were proud that their employees could have a family and take pride in their work. when you were hard and you are treated with disrespect and still can't pay your rent then you stop giving a shit. if no one around you cares or appreciates you then you also stop caring. it's not all about the individual, society has to care about each other.
>>520455411And you get paid more than you are worth.
>>520459201Yeah, but... We don't live in a society.
>>520455306Doing a job quickly and cheaply is how I take pride in my work. I want everyone to have access to the service I provide, so I want to allow myself to do it at the lowest price point I can.Why is this controversial?
I think the people who say it's just apathy are coping. It's clearly a combination of>Daddy wasn't around, never taught you SHITand>Our deliberately toxic environment has resulted in varying degrees of literal retardationWe're coping if we say we could do it right if felt like it. The truth is that most people right now couldn't do it right, even if their very lives depended on it. That's why it's a competency crisis and not a quality epidemic.
>>520455306KYS
>>520458093just tear down the ceiling and put up fresh one 5mm higher
>>520457273This is how I got into mechanic work. I got real tired of taking my car to a mechanic only to have to fix it myself after they broke it. I figured, "what the heck, I can break it for free and I'm fixing it anyway, might as well get to it." This was 25 years ago. There are very few things I hire out. You truly have to do everything yourself if you want it done right.
>>520455306landlords don't bother washing walls and paint over everything because it's easier, cheaper, and faster.Best of all? There are thousands of desperate people that are willing to take the apartment.
>>520459988but now it's hard to work on vehiclesis your truck 25+ years old?
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>>520455306Too aware of nepotism
>>520460058You're not wrong at all, but I'm seeing mechanic after mechanic complain that the most recent batch of cars are literally unfixable. So, if even the pros are throwing up their hands, then...
>>520455921>and everyone smiled
>>520460058My truck is 36 years old. (1989 Ford F700 with the bullet proof 6.6l New Holland diesel engine.) My daily drivers are 35 years old (BMW e34 525i) and 25 years old (Mercedes w210). I agree with you. (Most) New cars are junk.
>>520455306Your dad’s generation made such apathy encouraged and incentivized. Zoomers are simply a product of completely fucked up parents and decades of judeo brainwashing.
>>520455306I am Steamfitter by trade, commercial. I am running a 60amp Tesla charger in my house. I decided to upsize the wire by using 4thhn instead of 6awg in case they ever decide to increase the home chargers to 80amps I would already be ready electrical wise. So that also means I upsize the conduit to 1” instead of 3/4”. I also decided to run liquid tight metallic conduit for the entire 30’ run. All in all spent about $400 more on materials than I needed to. You would think I was personally insulting all the electricians with the way they bitch nonstop at me. That somehow using more expensive and future proof materials is the greatest offense to their trade
>>520458162>wages have been stagnent>because da money is bad!fucking retard kek
>>520455306Pride in a job well done isn't doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's part of a culture in tandem with a social contract that is now shattered. Capital doesn't value a job well done. It values 1/3 of a job well done at 1/4th of the cost.
>>520460058You can still do all the basics. Not giving them a chance to fuck something up on a brake job. Muh rotors are warped, need resurfacing bullshit. I even started to mount and balance myself. I only bring vehicles in for alignments if I had to do a lot of suspension work. Last time I was at a mechanic I needed a full 19 gal gas tank dropped to replace a brake line. Totally worth the $500.
>>520456644>WTF IS THIS THING YOU FUCKING TELL ME RIGHT NOWlooks like a tooth flosser ya mong
>>520455306>Why doesn’t anyone take pride in the work they do anymore?Because delivering low quality goods and services is more profitable.I used to give a fuck but I wash punished for it.Now I do a "good enough" job quickly and cheaply and get rewarded for it.
By not hiring one armed lazy spics with food stuck in their teeth.Why do so many 2 armed people buy those floss things anyway? A floss reel is cheaper.
>>520460748>I even started to mount and balance myself. I only bring vehicles in for alignments if I had to do a lot of suspension work.Funny. I'm just the opposite. I do my own wheel alignments but let the tire guy mount and balance my tires.
>>520455306Well, first and foremost, everyone is actively and intentionally trying to disrespect everyone else's job and rob dignity from the others and their way of life in a bid to look dignified themselves. There's a lack of trust and mutual respect in society. Naturally, people want nothing to do with a job title that's easy to denigrate.
>>520460923>A floss reel is cheaper.Yeah, but those little flossers are cheap and handy.
The maintnance guy who did that got paid $14 an hour, has 4 other apartments to paint before end of day, a leaky dishwasher that management wont let him get parts for, and was up till 2am unclogging a toilet full of flushable wipes, then working on a furnace that because he's on call after hours every two weeks.
>>520455306>My dad used to tell me, no matter what your job is, if it’s building cabinets or cleaning toilets, you should do it with pride, that no job was without dignity.Your dad was able to afford a brand new Corvette, Mercedes, and 5-bedroom house in the nice, safe, lily-white part of town on a part-time paper route in the summer.
>>520455684I love how obvious the bot posts are. kek.
>>520456675>>520456496IMO if you're actually considering making whatever job you go into a profession, you should have your own shit. Not your own consumables - a painter should not be obliged to buy paint, that's just an inefficient transfer from the taxed wage you're given by the employer to you instead of an untaxed business expense by the employer - but your own costumes and uniforms, your own fundamental equipment (eg, paintbrushes or landscaping tools), your own vehicle built and meant for the job, etc.If you don't consider it a profession, you're just asking for the minimum wage, because you're at the tier of a government worker who arrives exactly at 9, leaves exactly at 5, spends 30 minutes trying to figure out how to deduct a $5 work expense, making sure every regulation is followed such that his work can never be criticized but never praised.But honestly there's no reason an entry-level apprenticeship should be that way. That's why you do an apprenticeship with "that trades guy you know from family/friends" - that guy definitely has a second pair of all that shit just lying around - instead of applying online to businesses that don't give a fuck about you.
>>520461104I bought a 50 yard floss for $1.79 a few days ago. How much do you pay for 150 floss picks? I am saving money and throwing away less garbage.
>>520455306>work>dignity"work" is slavery with extra steps and completely undignified by any metric.
>>520455383Pride has nothing on false humility. I've found that the most vicious people are the ones who are always compulsively putting themselves down as a show of humility. A prideful person might irk you with bragging, but the falsely humble will downplay their own actions and then turn around and badmouth someone over trifles.
>>520461427They use to be $1 for 50 at the dollar tree. Now they're $1.25-150 depending on the area.
>>520455306I've always taken pride in my work.But there's lots of places where working hard and taking pride in your work gets you dragged down and singled out. Not everywhere, but a good number of places. And you'll end up with a manager or boss that tries to take advantage of you for it.
>>520461427Yes. You are correct. Regular roll floss is cheaper. I have some of that too. (I keep it near my tooth brush.)>How much do you pay for 150 floss picks?It's like $4.50 at walmart. (I looked them up.) I have a bag I keep in my desk drawer and occasionally use one when I get something stuck in my teeth. I've had this bag for a couple years and it is about 1/2 - 2/3 gone. I can afford a couple bucks a year for this convenience.
>>520461237Younger people don't want to dedicate themselves to a company like their fathers did, and the choice is impacting the quality of life they live. >>520461494What's your definition of dignified? Being fat? Going to the gym and wiggling useless weight around instead of doing something productive & profitable with your muscles?
>>520455383>>520455441typical kike bots talking each other
>>520461775There are lots of jobs that will notice your hard work and take advantage of you. Fun Fact: Wage theft is by far the largest and most common form of theft in America. Wage theft costs American workers about $50 billion annually. (To put this in perspective, the total dollar value of all burglaries in America is about $3.5 billion annually.)
>>520455383Pride in yourself is. Pride in your work and what you put into this world in the name of god is not. The problem here is you're a goddless faggot.
>>520455682>also they never realize you can take the baseboards off, clean and paint them, and reinstall to look brand newThis is retarded. Technically you're supposed to caulk baseboards first so you can't even see a seam between the baseboard and the wall. THEN you tape off the baseboards. THEN you paint (assuming your baseboards are different than the wall color)If you have painted baseboards you're a pleb.
>>520462214I bought a cheap house where they'd tried to pretty it up first before the sale, but are apparently lead-poisoned retards because literally nothing was taped before painting. There's paint on the baseboards, paint on all the trim, paint on the electric receptacles and light switches, paint on the doorknobs and hinges and windows etc. Funniest part is they used the wrong kind of paint; it literally wipes off with water. I can't be assed to fix it right now, but it's pretty annoying to not be able to properly wipe a dirty wall (like from preparing food) because you just rub all the paint off.
How did a disposable floss - flimsy plastic piece of shit - get along a wall in the first place? How did it not fall off the wall when hit by a paintbrush? Seems like the painter must have been malicious (saw it and intentionally painted it on, vs. Mere reckless disregard for the job) or the OP image is staged/fake.
>>520455306Cross eyed boomer retards effectively priced actual tradesmen out of existence by being the only people who can afford homes while also being too greedy and stupid to realize that there's a reason plopjeet roofing costs half as much as the others guys until it rains.
>>520461775>"I take pride in my work" contractorbid: $1000 and a whole day to get it right>"first make it exist and leave it that way forever" Mexicanbid: $250 and done before lunchtimeHaving high regard for your workmanship usually reflects in the pricepoint, and a lot of customers are cheap fucks who just want it done now and for pocket change.
>>520455306>Be tradie>Start Apprenticeship>Spend an extra 5 minutes wiring a panel so that all the wires look organized, labeled, and neat>Boomer Journeymen screams down my throat for wasting time and money on something the client won't look at or care about>"What about the next guy that is adding a circuit 5-10 years from now?">"FUCK THE NEXT GUY!">Next panel>Rush it as quickly as possible>Boomer Journeymen rats on me to the boss for not taking pride in my workI'm glad I don't have to deal with boomers in the trades anymore because they were the worst. Seems like everyone who came after them actually wanted to be proud of the shit they were making. Unfortunately we now have jeets in the trades and they can't build shit.
People had to start competing with low wage mexicans and immigrants. People told you this was going to happen with NAFTA and other policies, but you didn't listen.
>>520455306Because the wages are living conditions have dropped people have to work two jobs now they're too busy to care
>>520455306I painted my own house and sanded down every corner, hand brushed. It's perfect.
>>520461619You are paying 3 times as much if you use a foot of floss from a reel.
>>520462584Rentals are sprayed with a gun, thick paint more resistant to wear. Tenants absolutely fuck the walls anyway so painters soon learn to not give a fuck
>>520455387This is it exactly. Working harder and long hours used to mean wealth. Now it means nothing. Even at a salary job I can work harder and harder I can only ever just hope my salary goes up. The only reason I work hard at all it reputation at this point.
>>520462923Ross Perot warned us.
>>520455306>New generations seem to do have lost the scriptThey never had the script to begin with, and they're going to just sit back and laugh as you do their job for free as well as your own.
>>520455383youre so insane for drawing this but its funny regardless.ONTOPIC.WHEN YOU PAY 1 CENT/hour for work, you get 1 cent quality and a big fuken piece of shit.>bu but youre supposed to work for free and make a better job than yacht chad who never worked a milisecond in his lifelol YES MILORD CAN I CLEAN YOUR ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>520455306>clean the toilet with pride my son>some boomerthe absolute stateyou have all gone nuts, shut up!
>>520463458"You hear that giant sucking sound? That's NAFTA taking away all your jobs"
>>520463040Thanks for a real answer in this cesspool consisting otherwise entirely of jewish shills posting lies and d&c theada.
The customer sucks, that's why
>>520455306>that no job was without dignity.Sure doesn't feel that way anymore. The capital system got too vicious.The necessary inverse of >The cream of the crop rises to the topis>The shit floating at the bottom deserves to be thereI think this has gotten worse as the economy has gotten more fake. Hedge fund managers and the like understand their jobs are complete BS, but they only get to keep them for as long as nobody figures that out, so they really lean into the meritocracy story.
>>520455657I dunno how it goes anywhere else, but I can look up tradesmen by name and get their highest class/cert achieved and the date it was issued.So, like, if some guy is advertising being a Master <insert trade>, you can look him up and find out. Most guys who call themselves masters aren't. Lots of under-the-table faggots who did like half of their 2nd apprentice year and quit, but call themselves Journeymen.
>>520455306That's something boomers came up with to make themselves feel better about being fucking losers. You gotta feed your family somehow. But eeking out a living scrubbing toilets is objectively worse than installing cabinets. Anyone can do the former. The latter is a skill. This was also back when you could actually buy a home from your toilet scrubbing job. Fuck boomers forever and ever..anen
>>520455387this desu ne
>>520455306Before I was NEET, I always did the job the best I could. Part of it is the ol' redneck "pitter patter", basically illegal to have hands in your pockets. Part of it was that I saw doing a sloppy job as a hallmark of being fucking retarded, and I had to do it better because, god damn it, I WAS better than these faggots. Part of it was that fucking up chorin' at home when I was a kid meant drunk old man screeching, possibly not getting to eat, occasionally being threatened with homelessness. So, I carried that with me to every job I ever did.
>>520455682>>520455443I hate this the most. Always love the knucklehead homeowners who actually tape around them too.>>520455985Tape is a waste of time if you actually know how to paint. If you don't tape though you HAVE TO clean and sand to get a clean brush stroke.>>520458093Floor leveler is expensive and they probably were dumb and thought that "Self leveling" means it will just do that by itself. Lol it doesn't much like paint doesn't self spread.>>520455306It's usually a no contract/cash only situation. Also it's a "the homeowner doesn't respect my trade" type of scenario where they assume a particular skill like painting is "low skill" and can they can just buy a can of paint/primer in one and a cheap brush to have me quick coat a section just for a guest or some shit. Bitch no, painting is the last fucking thing you do and I don't touch a can of paint until you pay ME to clean and prep the wall properly. I don't fucking care that you got the premium behr thick coverage bullshit, I'm sanding and priming and getting all of your husky's dog hair the fuck out of the molding so that your expensive paint actually looks good. Also, "level 5"? Should have told the drywaller that.
>>520455306>Why doesn’t anyone take pride in the work they do anymore?nigger, jeets, and spics have no honor. Indian culture is incompatible with Western Civilization.>Doing your job may be seen as effeminate by those above you. If you can shirk your responsibilities, you’re considered macho. In that culture, there is rarely any pride or honor in doing what is right. If you call a plumber for repairs, he will see it as beneath him to leave without creating a mess. He may deliberately do a shoddy job, even if doing it well wouldn’t take more time. A complex web of arrogance, egotism, servility, casteism, tribalism, and magical thinking drives this behavior. He shows his contempt for you and gets the better of you by leaving a mess. His customer, as the other side of the same coin, might well look down on and exploit someone who did his job well.>Fairness, justice, trust, empathy, and impartiality are alien to many Indians. They have a hard time telling the difference between right and wrong. They are indifferent even when no cost is associated with being fair. Moreover, if they could do good without any personal cost, they would still prefer not to, because that can be seen as a sign of weakness.https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/https://archive.is/4pP8dhttps://www.dailyo.in/variety/scams-nirav-modi-rotomac-fodder-scam-pnb-22537https://archive.ph/vhPycAlso remember to refer to a pajeet as 'dalit' (untouchable/garbage) or malaun (cursed)
I own an apartment (unit) in a building.We do vote in the annual general meeting when there is some significant expense, i.e. how we're going to spend our own money (paid through fees) on maintenance.There's typically some uber expensive quote, by some big company that generally does much bigger jobs, some decent quote by a local guy used to do those jobs, and a dirt cheap quote by some random guy fresh off the plane.Guess which one the boomers in my building always pick?
>>520467256>I own an apartment (unit) in a building.They pick the latter because it's cheapest and all of those choices will do the same quality of work.
>>520466400Painting is though.I did one part of my bathroom wall. I did the prep right (sanding very well, patching wall where needed), two layers of undercoat then 5 layers of paint, leaving it to dry as required.I still fucked all the corners, because even with tape, that did not work well, and removing the tape also removed bits of paint.That being said I like to do work myself. It's not about saving money, but learning to do stuff myself.
>>520455306Nobody has a family to take care of and corporations have killed the career lifestyle so you’re going to be jumping from position to position every 2-3 years to stay on top of inflation and add to that the toxic HR culture most companies have now there is 0 incentive to care about the quality of your work. I get paid the same if I spend half my day pretending to work and most of my coworkers are incompetent and get paid just as much as I do.There is no reason to give a shit anymore and yeah I know this sucks as a customer but everything sucks now so its not worth ruining my mind and body over something that doesn’t change anything.
>>520467364Yeah they pick the cheapest.I think the expensive company would subcontract to a retard, so quote 1 and 3 are the same except twice as expensive.But I like to think the local small company will do a good job. At least that's my experience working with (some) tradies in Australia.
>>520455306restaurant workers don't know how to mop floors anymoreif the floor is all slippery and greasy when it's dry, you did something wrong
>>520455306>dadthis is a clue to the mystery
>>520455306spics.anyway, herbs.
>>520455306>My dad used to tell me, no matter what your job is, if it’s building cabinets or cleaning toilets, you should do it with pride, that no job was without dignity.Who brainwashed your dad? Have you figured that out yet?
>>520456396>probably because their efforts won't be rewardedYes, but more than that doing a good job is often actively punished. If the painter took the tine to prep his work and do it right he would probably get fired for taking too long. As a comnercial vehicle mechanic, I've spent half my life arguing with management about whether a tractor trailer is safe to drive with defective breaks or not. Our business environment is based around meeting the bare minimum standards in the minimum time, not quality.
>>520455306You'll never understand why landlords are they way they are until you deal with the average rentoid. I hate landlords in principle but pragmatically speaking they're almost always far better people than those who rent from them deserve. I cannot emphasize enough just how disgusting, careless and irresponsible the overwhelming majority of renters are.
>>520455306It is natural outcome of.capitalism. when the meaning is not the things to be built, but to make.money.Because work is exploitation and because of planned obsolescence.Neither the capitalists, nor the workers have any insentivr to do the work right.Capitalists - the shittier it is the earlier it has to be redone again. More profit.Workers - fuck these bastards they do not pay me enough , so I will do it the sloppy way. This is my revenge.Enjoy capitalism!
>>520467558>I think the expensive company would subcontract to a retard, so quote 1 and 3 are the same except twice as expensive.Bingo. Those companies want the big dollar new constructions. A small company would do it but guess what? They're hiring the guy not fresh off the plane, but off the boat. However the insurance is a bonus.>>520467481I did the prep right (sanding very well, patching wall where needed), two layers of undercoat then 5 layers of paint, leaving it to dry as required.LOL too much!. 1-2 layers of primer, 1-2 layers of paint. Or do you mean to say you took off that much? That's overkill, all you gotta do is sand flat and rough enough to roll primer over.Metal is a whole different animal though, you gotta strip and epoxy seal that shit. >I still fucked all the corners, because even with tape, that did not work well, and removing the tape also removed bits of paint.And that is also why we don't use tape when we can avoid it. You gotta brush against the grain and then really comb and smooth out, especially where the tape seam is. Or take a razor and lightly go over the seam to break it up. You can't tape over new paint, you gotta let it harder for 3 weeks too. Corners you daub thick with a brush, comb it once over with a light brush, then roll as close as you can. If it's a first coat, just lightly edge over everything once first making sure not to leave heavy layers and brush strokes. Then go over it thick on the second coat and roll over that for a first coat. Always finish roll once over in the same direction facing the roller the same direction and feather it with the non pole end as you work your way down. And write "L's" on the wall with the roller because your wall will take an "L" even if you write "W's" on it like it won something (The "W" pattern is bullshit, you finish roll straight up and down and work your way down). Bleach/TSP the shit too.
>>520468955*brush with the grain. Then like a roller "finish" with one big light stroke if the piece if small enough. This is important on trim too because you want to preserver, even somewhat restore the designs.
>>520455306Hard work doesn't directly translate to salary. Maybe it never did and 50 years ago people were just more delusional. But nowadays people understand this, and they have resorted to doing the bare minimum. Still, it is good to work hard. If not when you are actually at work, then at some other point in the day. Otherwise you are a sloth, which is a sin.
>>520469441Hard work is pointless when the amount of shekels deposited into my account at the end of the month is not dependent on me working hard or doing good work.
>>520455567>W-we didn't have a dinner table...
>>520458162>Gold standard ends in 1971>Minimum wage was around 2 dollars>2 dollars in 1971 is worth 16 dollars todayWhat is the point in making such an easily disproven lie?
>>520470330>Gold standard means gold is $35/oz>Gold recently hit $4200/ozThat's a lot more than an eightfold increase. Are you using the ministry of truth's CPI numbers? Ishygddt
>>520455306Nobody wants to pay you to "do it right". Also your dad is a faggot. >if you want something done right, do it yourself That's what my dad taught me. Its always been that way. It will always be that way. Thats why my house is badass while your faggot dad seethes impotently at the beaner he paid $100 to do shit hes too much of a lazy piece of shit to do himself.
>>520470704Okay you are a moron, thanks for clarifying.
>>520457035tf is this
>>520455306it's part of the attitude of communismIt's why it's it's what you see when everything starts eating it and attacking capitalism
>>520455740tape is just glue on paper
>>520470830You may not like it, but it's what peak performance looks like.
>>520455306Free market baby
>>520455306>You can’t even trust tradesmen anymoreMost tradesmen don't deserve their trade papers desu. Over the years I've probably had at least 500 different tradesmen working for me and can count on both hands the number that was actually any good.t. Former heavy construction supervisor.
>>520455387In addition to this, there is no longer any common civilization to contribute to. The men who built cathedrals weren't just constructing buildings, they were contributing to their own societies. Carpenters are no longer build homes which will be owned by fellow citizens - places in which friends, neighbors, and their families will build lives. Instead, they are building depreciating rental assets for Blackrock, which will be rented to jeets. If anything, they would be morally justified in doing an even shittier job.
>>520455306I will put it in a very simple statement,Kikes and shitskins did this.
>>520455387>>520472644/thread
>>520469441>Hard work doesn't directly translate to salary. Maybe it never did and 50 years ago people were just more delusional.the main difference is there used to be many more different type of jobsmy dad started as a projectionist at movie theatre, then got electronics degree and single-handedly ran and fixed everything at the local TV relay station, while having a part-time job as a radio DJ one day of the week, where he also did tech shit..... and all those jobs no longer exist here, except for 1 cheap theatre at a different locationso, "hard work" paid off in the sense that tthere were more interesting, fun jobs that paid well enough, jobs that weren't akin to slave tier plus, the community was vibrant, which itself makes you want to be a part of it
>>520472985Thread/Thread Japan :)
>>520457035that was actually skillful
few people take pride anymore because everything is goyslop. Everything is designed and done to be cheap and fast. The obvious side effect is that the quality goes down. If you're forced to produce things of low quality then why would you be bothered to take pride? Craftsmanship is no longer paid for. You only see it on youtube because that's where a small amount of craftspeople can still get paid.
>>520455306government steals your money to give to jews and niggers. why should I care about more than just getting a paycheck. If I am helping fellow whites I will care, other than that everyone can die
>>520474120>other than that everyone can dieThey most certainly will.
nobody cares about doing a good job nobody cares about doing things the right wayeveryone is in a constant state of "fuck you i got mine" since covid - and if you come to anyone with a problem, EVEN IF IT IS THEIR JOB TO FIX YOUR PROBLEM e.g. doctor, dentist, mechanic, whatever - everyone else just looks for the most expeditious way to get you out of their sightno one feels a connection to their community, race, religion, nation... everyone lives in their own world and has enmity for pretty much everyone else
>>520473944>except for 1 cheap theatre at a different locationProjectionists just insert the HDD from the studio and press "play" on the movie now. It's not like when you had to set up the film, track the times and theatres and watch for the signal (the giant circle) to switch from one reel to another without fucking up the movie everyone was watching, then rewinding the film on the giant ass reels. It's not even the same job anymore, it can be done from a single computer doing shit on a schedule.
>>520475012>cigar burnsyeah.... everything was just better...cars...my dad bought a 69 or 70 Chevelle SS from working as a projectionist...pretty much says it all
>>520475834that's not a cigar burn. The movies were on giant reels of film but the full reel wasn't the whole movie- so you had to set up one projector to play the first half, the second projector to play the second part, and when you saw that circle on the top right, it was the signal to switch off the first project and start the second one rolling. Longer movies like Titanic required you to reload the first projector with a 3rd reel of film, then you had to rewind them all
>>520476188>that's not a cigar burn.what do you mean? that's what my dad called the indicator in the top right corner>>520476188>The movies were on giant reels of film but the full reel wasn't the whole movie- so you had to set up one projector to play the first halfyeah, i know...
>>520455306Could have sworn I read this exact prose in my emo grandfather's diary.
>Why doesn’t anyone take pride in the work they do anymore?1. Panned obsolescence -- it's by design.2. D. E. I. -- it's as good as it gets3. Black pilled -- "nothing will survive; why bother?"
>>520455306>Get paid a low wageHmmm i wonder why.
>>520477564You know very well 90% of plumbers and carpenters and painters ask an arm and a leg to do some work, even if is balck market. They pay no taxes. And still, 80% of those 90% are fucking shit, their work is low quality. Want to do it legal? Hire a company, pay even more, and they'll fill your house with niggers and jeets.Soon will be imposible to find the old dudes to make some work, will be only 50IQ jeets. Jeets are imported to keep wages to old Eastern European level while energy and food prices are bigger than in Germwdstnoney.
>>520455306>do useful work>gets paid like shit>people are not grateful>society crumbling anywaywhy put in the effort when there's no carrot?
>>520455306we realized we're slaves in an evil civilizationwe dont have pride in our work; we're ashamed of it
>>520478219The only way to win is to do what you have to so you can break free from society and starve the jews of your tax money.
>>520480623I'm all for it. But I expect others to do a proper job too
I've had over 50 jobs. I have busted my ass off at every single one. I have been fired from every single job.
>>520480623they dont need it anymorethey'll just inflate the money they cant take from you
>>520480965based
>>520455306I only move around boxes and shit at the 'Zon and at first I did but then I realized how they only give opportunities to their gay little cliques and they value you less than some dumb cunt or african immigrant.
>>520455387People that do a shit job at a low wage will do a shit job at a higher wage.
>>520480965Lazy
Pride doesn't pay the bills kike
>>520481586correctpeople think that they can compartmentalize their lifethey cant. its ontological
>>520483628When was the last time you worked 20 hours in a dusty ass broken down Ranch 8,000 ft in the air?
>>520455306because pay is too low. why take pride in something when you aren't getting paid dick?
>>520470330he's basing it on $2 worth of gold in 1971>>520460607inflation basically only happened after the end of the gold standard because they could only print so many dollars
>>520484394i dont even necessarily disagree with youbut whats the point of doing something half ass?like who benefits in that situation?not the person half assing because it wrecks their own self esteem
No job has ever paid me enough to get by Or even ahead in life Fuck jobs
>>520455306Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.That's why I shit on company time.
>>520484523I'm not putting full effort into shit that's not paying me full wages
>>520455306Capitalism at work. The more corners you cut more line go up
>>520484523>like who benefits in that situation?No one, but that's the point. I still wouldn't benefit if I did a good job, and if I can't benefit from my work then why should anyone else benefit from my work?
>>520455306Beaners started it. It spread to whites because the beaners didn't get fired and got paid the same. It's contagious.
>>520484882you inherently benefit knowing you did a good job, and making the environment bettermakes everyone around you feel better toothere is literally no argument for being a lazy shit bagyou are just digging your own grave by behaving that wayyou are not sticking it to anyone, im saying that with the full knowledge of how rigged the system is>>520484664i have a lot of critiques for this systembut there are no excuses for poor performance. noneif you dont take pride in what you doeven if you are a slave in a rigged systemthey have won because now they steal your dignity
>>520484979that shit is endingcorporate is no longer tolerating lazy griftersthey are getting their shit pushed in every dayand the people who actually get shit done are risingthe old way of reputation management through brown nosing is goneperform or leave is the new wayi work for a major retailer and have witnessed the shift
>>520485085if you want me to not do a shit job, pay me. I see no benefit of going above and beyond the bare minimum
>>520485183why would i pay you more, your performance is trashthis goes both ways dude
>>520485138lies>>520485200you aren't going to pay me more anyway. doing more work doesn't benefit me at all. the system is rigged. It's my goal every day to cost the company more money than I make them
>>520485231good luck with that. corporate will use ai surveillance to fuck over people like youyou think its ok to steal from others?two wrongs dont make a rightjust because its rigged doesnt mean you should become a criminaland if you are going to do that, why not just do your own thing?create somethingwhy steal from others?
>>520458003How to live for God in a world of jews and their golems? You can't. You can't live in judea and do as a Roman unless you have some special privilege--i.e. resources to burn. This is what happens to art, too. To love. To everything. And even their "holy" texts prohibit you from making war against them, rather imploring you to spread the other cheek and trust whatever your blind intuition tells you if not your rainbow preacher.
>>520461338Sad you're so convinced by gptslop that you can't decifer human expression anymore
>>520485310you are only free to live for God in your own mind and daily practicethis is an open air prison babylon system
>>520485310btw thanks for sharing that post, its well written and quite creativevery good material, thank you
>>520455306It's what happens when you're conditioned to go as fast as humanly possible no matter what you're doing. If try to take things a bit slower as to not make mistakes you get chewed out by management.
>>520462167This. Anon is a nigger using scripture to be a lazy nigger. I say this as a lazy nigger myself but I have enough humility to accept Im a lazy nigger.
>>520468293Fast, cheap, and good. You can have two, but you can't have all three.
>>520485085Hard work is not its own reward, boomer. No one with any self-respect is going to work harder to make someone else's line go up.
>>520485651it is its own reward retardwhen you look in the mirror at the end of the daywhat matters is what YOU didnot that we live in a rigged capitalist systembut what did you do with the paltry and meager bit of autonomyyou still cling to?
>>520485721when you tidy up your living space or clean your car or get a haircutyou feel good its the same principle you cant compartmentalizethese things and its ontological, you cant compartmentalize this shit
>>520485085>>520485200When I was a teenager, I hung out in this groupchat with a russian. He once told me that: "Russians do not work FOR our wages.">Yes you do that's literally -"Silence, American child. We work TO our wages."That's what young Americans are adopting. If you pay them minimum wage, you will get minimum effort. If you pay them 2x minimum wage, you will get 2x minimum wage. You get to customize the performance of your workers. >But you need to take PRIIIIDE in your workThen you need to take pride in your employees. There is no excuse to pay poor wages. None.
>>520455383Lack of pride is to the point you dont care anymore is also a sin
>>520485779Go eat some more benzos, Jordan.
>>520485807this system relies on depriving some so that others can thrivehow are you going to make the firefighter feel like a special boy?you have to pay them fat money pensions social status etceteraif burger boy makes what firefighter makes, we have big trouble in hierarchy slave worldthe machine would no longer work because special firefigher would no longer be special king monkey boyif you pay people decently, the social order would collapse, we cant have that, we need our special classes
I try to do everything myself now. Paying a tradesman to do something is just throwing money away. They have very unrealistic expectations for pay and they always do a shit job.
>>520485822>eceleb exists therefore squalor ok
>>520455306That's the meta now because the market is flooded with competition undercutting each other everywhere. If someone else can do it faster and cheaper, then they're going to get all the jobs while you and your principles starve. The customer doesn't care if there's a tooth pick painted into the wall; they care if the job is done in 3 hours or not.
>>520455306The same people telling you to have good work ethic are the same people replacing you with spics and jeets. They then gaslight younger people with phoney claims about "no one wanting to work anymore".
Employers *ought* to take care of their workers. But there is no financial incentive to do so - workers can easily be replaced with cheap labor overseas or robots. And with no financial incentive, employers will never take care of their workers. That's just the way it is. We would need en entire overhaul of our economic system - and government regulation of it - to change this.
>>520485966>just be lazy bro, that'll teach them a lessonsounds like a really intelligent strategyyou should work harder and get more and get promotedso you can get a little bit in this rigged worldnot cry and piss and moan in your own piss puddle
>>520485907You don't seem to understand anon, I'm not debating you, I'm informing you. You are customizing the performance of your workers. When you decide you want competent work, you will pay competent wages. Until then, you will get minimum effort.
>>520486041not true, you'll just get fatter parasites that wayyou show me your worth first, then you get paid
>>520485966Renovating my house opened my eyes to the need for immigration. I am not paying an Irish tradesman 200, 300 euros per hour of their work.I hired Eastern europeans instead.
>>520455306>>520455387I’ve made a 43% gain in sales for my employer in one year, that’s about 400k€, after being told id get a bonusI did this just by being white and not an idiotGuess what, Guess who was lied to?So now I don’t give a flying fuck about it anymore and am paging it in
>>520481586Good goy>>520483940Nah, seethe kike.
>>520455306Global phenomena due to low-trust multicultural societies.
>>520486113the only ones seething are the ones pretending livingin squalor is like an ironic IRL shit post or somethingnobody is laughing, and the punchline is you. i feel sad for them
>>520486010Guys like you wonder why employees would steal from you, but you get what you deserve. I work at 1/4 speed around guys like you. Go ahead and hire spics until ICE takes them from you.
because nobody is doing the job they were supposed to do, theyre doing jobs which pay well, which are jobs that benefit jews. so instead of doing what they were naturally supposed to do, theyre stuck at jew babysitting, along with a bunch of brown people who stink.all couldve been avoided had christcucks not cucked to jews, but that was always an inevitability. with christcucks, jews win.
>>520486196you act lazy and coercive because other trigger you so hardget your shit together, man, this is just pathetic
>>520486077Ireland was always a shithole, good to see you're keeping up the tradition.
>>520486010Working harder gets you more work, working lazier gets you promoted in 2025.>But that doesn't make senseConsneeder the following: you manage a department in a factory. You have 3 workers:>1 is absolutely fucking incredible at his job, a paragon of performance. He's a hand.>2 is mid, he doesn't get much done on his own and he's a little confused, but he got the spirit. He's a glove.>3 is absolutely shit and slows down the other two. He never works. He never does his job. He's always late. He makes stupid mistakes. He doesn't show up till the last 5 minutes. He's a blister..Management tells you that someone's going to be promoted and you get to pick. If you promote 1, you're left with a glove and a blister, with no handyman to actually do work. Everything falls apart, so you're not gonna promote your best employee. If you promote 2, you've still got your best employee, but the callous is going to slow down the hand all day every day. So who do you promote? 3. Because promoting him gets rid of the problem.
>>520486234I make good money and im not paying a tradesman 2x or even 3x my hourly rate. I will find someone who will do it for a fair price or do it myself or it wont get done at all.I consider irish tradesmen my enemies now since they are such thieves.
>>520486226Oof your ESL is slipping, seems you're getting hot under the hood.
>>520486074Again, I'm not negotiating with you. I've informed you of the terms and conditions that your workers have imposed on you.
>>520486302i don't know what that's supposed to mean, is that supposed to resemble an argumentas far as your impotent implication, im not "hot under the hood"im calmly eating eggies in my apartment
>>520486320the employees don't have any bargaining power, theyare forced to be conscripted by employers in order to survive
>>520455306This is why I have bought the tools I need to do my own work - House, Cars, Electrical, Plumbing. Because 98% of anyone you will hire to do shit sucks. All they can think about their 80K fishing boat, 95" Jew Box, the $3000 truck payment, and Nigger-Ball.I gave up on contractors and shops years ago because I constantly had to re-do their overpriced work both for myself and for jobs I was hired to re-do.Buy your own shit to do your shit - and never buy a house built after the 1950's. After that they are all trash.
>>520455306Pride doesn't pay bills.Cheating does.
>>520486437They will continue to work to their pay, and you will continue to wonder why you can't find good help. They're not asking your permission, they're telling you.
>>520486470This was some advice someone gave me.>if they want so much money that you can easily buy the tool, do it yourself.
>>520486485they are not dictating to anyone, they dont even have control over their own liveslet alone major corporations that are keeping them fed and sheltered
>>520472644Perks of low trust society jews worship. I expect also no real inovations in future. Just busywork bureaucracy and marketing.
>>520486566If that were true then we wouldn't have a problem with people doing subpar jobs.
>>520486615its only a "problem" in so far as we all have a lower status of living as a resultits a problem for them personally because they live subpar livesyes i have sympathy, the system is riggedbut if you are entropic in your orientation, how are you helping?
>>520486678I thought the workers weren't dictating anything and had no power to do poor work? That's what you said a minute ago.
>>520486713yeah, they aren't dictating anythingnotice the corporate machine doesn't give a fuck about isolated lazy people?you aren't even putting a dent in the systemyou just make the people around you and yourself more miserableits a poor strategy built on a poor understandingthere is nothing further to discuss here
>>520470830Top image is an architectural print, calling out a numbered detail that can be sourced elsewhere in the prints.Bottom image shows that hose A and hose B don't know how to read prints, and they poured the concrete steps, and included the detail complete with reference number, and angled line which points out the area the detail refers to.If you know how to read blueprints, then you know this is a major fuck up, that they worked hard to do.
The big problem is that our economic system doesn't need full employment to function anymore. The big question is what to do with all these useless eaters?
>>520455306>that no job was without dignity.That should be true but modernity has sucked the dignity out of everything and in turn everyone.
>>520474053They worked hard to fuck up, lol.
>>520455306it is a white thing. from gilded, carved exteriors to cold concrete. from wainscotting to fucked up uneven drywalling and $10000 charges for a level 5 (that should be the only level) finish. education statistics. crime statistics. browns are a universal, unfathomable, demonic drag on everything in society. its aesthetics, its function. you can't convince the next generation to "take pride in their work" because they don't understand virtue and don't get endorphins from performing virtuous activities.
>>520486776If they're not dictating anything, then poor work can't be happening. If poor work is happening, then the workers are dictating their own performance.
>>520486897they aren't dictating because their actions have no meaningful affect on what they claim to be the problem. we are finished here i will be closing this thread now
>>520455306Because lawyers and bureaucrats slow down and vampirise all systems that should allow you to punish people for doing a shit job
>>520486946If their actions have no meaningful effect, then there's no reason for them to put pride in their work.
>>520455443Landlords don’t think painting should be high paid so they’ll pay Mexicans Pennie’s in the dollar to get it done
>>520486173Nah seethe kike
>>520455306It doesn't help that they fire people who do good jobs regularly for not being "productive" or "dedicated" enough
>>520486985>Because lawyers and bureaucrats slow downWe wish that were the case, because the speed of fuckery since 2000 really could have used a slowing
>>520455387This. Currency = time and energy ticketsCurrency printing has outpaced the exchange rate. Energy parasites thrive, the human resource depletes. Eventually, people reject the exchange, and the currency becomes worthless. Energy parasites create dependency via war. The side that has their infrastructure destroyed, gets purchased for cheap. Energy parasites convince the human resource to rebuild. Cycle starts over again.
>>520456675>$900+ to blow on painting gear, when I’m supposed to be working for THEM.Kek a scam so insane it might work.
>>520455306It happens here too. But there's a DIY culture here so people usually just build/assemble their own stuff if it's nothing too major. It's also harder to even get someone to quote you for a job if they think it's too minor for them to even bother. So I had to do a few things myself and made a ton of mistakes, but it was more satisfying to finish it knowing that I made it.
That's called a landlord special. They don't give a fuuuuuck.
>>520487536>spend $$$ so that you can work for them, on their jobs>they get pissed when you quit, start doing your own jobs, after gaining experience with themIt's a double edged sword
>>520455306diversity
>>520488410You would be pissed too if dude giving you free money every day would decide to stop.
>>520456714I lived in this apartmenet one time and the landlord was cheap as fuck. Landlord special carpet(found it for 20c a foot showed a pic to someone and thats what they called it) across the WHOLE apartment. kitchen, bathroom, every bedroom living room. He had those garage sinks in the kitchen. you know, the kind with NO spill-over protection. you know, the little ledge in case you overfill one sink and it spills over into the other sink before it would spill out onto the floor? Water pressure was shit in that place, and it would take 5 minutes to fill up the sink to do dishes like no shit. Well, I got tired of sitting there one day and said fuck it, i'll come back here in a few minutes. Went to my room and forgot about it. 15 minutes later, i remember suddenly. Oh fuck. i run in there, the floor is wet and its got up to the hallway. This was a humongous kitchen too. And Carpeted. I used my bathtowels, old used, to soak up the floor and it still didnt do shit. As i was drying them i realized heat coming out of the back of the dryer could just unhook the hose and blow it at the floor. That got it dry. I done this twice. The thing that really freaked me out was, he was remodelling other apartments, and I lived on the top floor. He was remodelling the one below me. new carpet, etc. I worried what if the water seeped through the floor and dripped down into the apartment below me. I grabbed a flashlight and went outside at night and looked through the windows. It was ok. It would have been his own fault if it flooded. Who's ever heard of a fucking kitchen sink without SPILL-OVER protection? cheapest ass piece of shit. its in case you block one sink off to fill it up and forget about it, so it will spill over into the sink next to it, where you don't have it blocked off so you dont flood the damn place.place was pretty cheap and stuff too. Nice, big rooms, but the cheapest walls. no insulation. wood panels. remodel was drywall..
>>520484523I don’t care about my job and I don’t care about the company I work for AND I don’t care about the customer that’s getting fucked.
>>520455306its actually a chinese thing thats just spread out from theresolution: glass china
>>520485085>>520485651>>520485721>>520485807>>520485907I earn a decent wage and still put in minimum effort because I don’t get paid extra when I perform better. There is no reward for busting your ass in today’s economy so why would I do it?After I adopted this mindset I have had so much extra energy and time that I have actually started doing some hobbies and I spend the extra time I now have at work while doing nothing to think about life and what I can improve about myself and how to enact my plans for becoming independent of the system in a few years. You want your employees to work harder? Then pay us bonuses.
>>520455306 Why would I do a good job when it's just shitskins benefitting from it? Even if it's not immediately, down the line, it's going to be a curry rat pissing on the walls anyway, so why care? Not even about the pay anymore. Just tired of handing nice shit to tapeworms. Fuck them, fuck you, and fuck Canada.
>>520455657Can’t you just ask who is the owner and whether he will personally be working on the job? Seems a pretty easy way to verify if it’s a large corporation or one person. You can even send them home if they try to be sneaky and send a foreman in the owners stead.
In a job where the levels of unqualified people are high, where the employer can replace you with any Indian or do it themselves by throwing time at an AI, forget about receiving the appreciation and a decent wage that all effort deserves so that workers can cover their expenses and raise a family without living in a favela in complete misery.Nowadays, most jobs are, as I've said, complete crap that doesn't require expertise, or if it did, it's no longer valued as much.Think about it. Twenty years ago, if you knew Visual Basic, you were a demigod, and companies would hire you just for having that skill. Today...
>>520455383 Can someone 195iq Christian here tell me what is the Christian camp's actual opinion on pride is and what it is? I'm prideful I didn't get the jab and that tells me I'm more correct in arguments with vaxxies. I'm prideful I'm a generally good person. I'm prideful when I do a good job on something or am good at a videogame. I would not say I'm a prideful person but there are things I'm prideful about that make up my self-image and esteem. Was pride more written for the era where there were 8 rich guys in a city and it absolutely went to their monkey heads?
>Is this just an American thing or is this a global phenomena?Tradies here fucking suck. Especially the English ones lmao
>>520455306>Talk shit to people who do manual labor >Refuse to pay a decent salary >Be surprised when people who do manual labor dont give a shit Who would have thought nigga
>>520493237I don't know man I think Christians put way too much emphasis on scripture, to me "pride is a sin" means don't put yourself above God because it leads to delusions.
Fuck your dad, faggot
>>520493237Pride before a fall.... A haughty spirit before destruction. It's kinda obvious. Don't be a dick and understand any talent you have was given to you and can be taken away at a moments notice. Even the grace you have to be a good person can be hardened like pharaohs heart. Nebuchadnezzar was brought so low he plucked on the ground like a chicken for years until God decided he had been humbled enough. It's kinda obvious to anyone with even a slight grasp of narrative story structure. All glory to God, not you. You glorify the Father, and the Father glorifies you.
>>520481586Then why did things start getting worse in quality when people work got valued less?
>>520455657Why would I hire a woman to do my electrical work?
>you should do it with pride, that no job was without dignityThere is no dignity to have in a time slot you hate with every fiber of your body and wish you weren't bound to and could leave forever.It's just the fiat that forces you to do a pointless ((job)) otherwise no one would do them and instead work on something they want to do, whatever it is.It's not a ((job)) it's slavery! So fucking glad I got out of that rat race, I haven't felt this good mentally since I was a child on summer vacations
>>520486104Take their client list then start a competing business.
>>520490566Agreed, but id like to think i could make every effort to make it worth the employees effort to stay, and maybe we could both make some money.
>>520455306>>520455306>>520455306Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990
>>520457035How to be retarded and brilliant at the same time.
>>520461497>but the falsely humble will downplay their own actions and then turn around and badmouth someone over trifles.those people are called cunts. nothing to do with humility, whether false or genuine, imho. everyone should remember that if you engage in shit talking with someone about other friends, there's a very high chance that you're also getting dumped on when you're not there. these people are poison and should be avoided.
>>52046338950% of business' fail within 5 years. I imagine its the good ones who actually hire Americans, pay them a living wage, and don't price gouge their customers that end up failing. Which is really unfortunate because the morally bankrupt businesses who hire illegals, pay low wages, and price gouge their customers shouldn't be rewarded by society. I suppose this is what happens when you let jews run amok. Morals and human decency go out the window while chasing profits at all costs becomes the national pastime. I could say "something something late stage capitalism" but its really just jews running amok.
>>520462032why would you think a seething street shitter memeflag is a kike bot? the mantra that all memeflags are kikes is outdated. a majority of them are jeets these days. kikes know how to use proxies. it's so easy to tell because they seethe endlessly at anything to do with india and use certain key words like "timmy" ad nauseam.
