In retrospect, was it a good idea?
>absorbing all of that hispanic population in the mid 19th century
>>520492231Go big or go home. Anyways yes surprisingly realistic strategic goals and likely how expansion might have played out.
>>520492231You lost.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mFNrdQJzw8
>>520492347Think Puerto Rico. Not citizens or a real state. Just a territory.
>>520492231Cool power fantasy but the part in southern Mexico is border gore, it would probably be lawless territory.
>>520492231Yes. I support this. The US would be much more powerful than Canada and Mexico at this point and would fully dominate North America
>>520492469There are more Puerto Ricans living within the 50 states than exist in Puerto Rico.
>British North AmericaWhat things be better if leafs never got independence?
>>520492231if this was case, by now 80% of mutt would be latinos and speak spanish
>No, see, actually, he wasn't an immigrant terrorist or a gangster, having a schizophrenic episode and hacking up a dozen people with a machete is just something black people do! He's as British as you or me!
>>520492803Wrong thread nigel.
>>520492426what's happening at the SE border of Idaho?
>>520492634In a way. It would have been better if they joined the US around 1890. Theyd be living better right now. The US would be more powerful today
>>520492914Oregon originally was owned by the British. They traded it to the US, but in that game it cannot be traded until all the colonization is done, the US cannot colonize it because a Canada interest, and AI Canada just wont do it. So cant get it. Youl notice Quebec is part of America there. I took Quebec instead. What you cant see is like 1/4 of Africa including the cape colony or South Africa is the US too, along with a chunk of south India, and Papua, and no Hawaii, instead a bunch of islands next to Australia.
>>520492231baja could have been american https://sandiegohistory.org/journal/1984/january/war/
>>520492634>leafs never got independenceThey never did, the kaaaang still rules his leaf subjects.
>>520493009>They traded it to the US, but in that game it cannot be traded until all the colonization is done, the US cannot colonize it because a Canada interest, and AI Canada just wont do it.Why is Paracucks so fucking incompetent?
>>520493143Canada is in fact still a monarchy and its head of state is the monarch of England, formerly the Queen now the king. His title is not honorary, despite the lies they teach in school. All bills require royal ascent, to go to war requires royal approval, to prorogue or shut down parliament requires approval etc. In the kings leave, the governor general acts on his behalf. The GG is unelected, as is the Prime Minister. Canada does not vote for a president like the US, they vote for parties and the party chooses its leader. If the party loses confidence in its leader, he can be tossed out after a simple vote and replaced with another, by the same party who would stay in power.
>>520493213I torrented it so Im not complaining too much. Canada is a vassal there, an owned colony by the US so essentially theyre just me anyways.
Fought a brutal war with Britain over like 12 years or something to get Canada transferred as a subject. I think if I recall they intervened when I tried to split Mexico in 2.
>>520492231The rio grande border is way more aesthetic.
>>520492231Just invade Canada bro. We can't defend ourselves and England is too weak to back us up.
>>520492347Genocide was socially acceptable back then. It was a geopolitical mistake not to manifest destiny all the way to modern Panama. You always conquer up to choke points in strategy games.
>>520492231I am really surprised they did not take Baja California. I am sure there were practically no people there in 1845.Imagine the 1950s with a tropical California with an infinite cosatline to be filled with blond chads and stacies.
Seems fair, throw in Canada while you're at it. I'm tired of those leaf faggots
>>520492910he’s allowed to post that in any thread and it’s applicable based on his flag alone. nigel has free reign to shitpost as he pleases even without a loicense
>>520493700>Genocide was socially acceptable back then.Nope. These lands were really practically empty. If they went south through mexico they would have started to find really populated areas and they knew they coudn't digest them.
>>520492231I think there would be less mexicans if that happened. The North of Mexico was very sparsely populated back then. Less area means less living room for mexicans to breed. Back then the North of Mexico, the territories Polk wanted had less than a million inhabitants. It would have been easy for american settlers to take over and demographically replace them. Even if the US was doomed to the same fate that it is now it would take more decades to make the US minority white than in our timeline.
>>520492347Polk would have 100% went indian removal on thos faggots. Also it shrinks the border length by 60% its a smart idea.
>>520492914Kaiser Reich
>>520493769According to that map Cuba and the maya territories could have become American. I don't think they could demographically replace the mayan territories but I think they could make it so that they would speak english and mayan instead of just spanish or spanish and mayan. I think they could have made Cuba more whiter and somethink like Bigger Puerto Rico if they owned it a lot earlier. But it was part of Spain back then and not Mexico.Bigger Texas also seems like an interesting idea. Texan culture is cool except for the fundamentalist religious stuff.
>>520492347There weren't that many mexicans there back then. There was a huge migration of Mexicans from the South to the North in the late 19th century.
>>520493143Kang Chuck gave Canada back to the chugs. People are getting letters informing them their land belongs to the natives now and they need to plan accordingly.
Also if anyones wondering why I colonized all the most disgusting nigger places like India and Papua, its a genocide your niggers playthrough. I only went after Mexico for extensive wars where I kill a lot of them pretty much, then I draft the remainder and send them off in a 1st Niggers group to fight other niggers.
and add all those illegals to our voter rolls? No thank you.
>Polk offered to buy cuba>got turned down>franklin pierce becomes president>gives the south a thumbs up for a southern transcontinental railroad>southerners again offer to buy cuba from spain but are turned down>civil war>republicans take over>1890's>republicans print a bunch of propaganda to invade cuba to try and rally support for a US empire>also go over to the philippines and eradicated them >fast forward to the 1960's>feds again want to invade cuba to rally support for a US empire>off JFK for failing to launch second spanish american war >some turk roach posts this stupid map and claims polk wanted it
>>520494572Only Baja California was worth anything because it was empty of people and it was a natural paradise with an infinite coastline and tropical climate.In a timeline with no anti-white demographic revolution, it would have become an extention of Alta California which in the 1950s was a blond chad and stacy heaven.
>>520492231> In retrospect, was it a good idea?I don’t like the globohomo empire now, this wouldn’t have been any better.
>>520494894I checked out. The entire Baja California had the grand total of 8k inhabitants in 1800. Totally empty.
It goes 1836-1936, this is only by 1905.
>>520494735based
oh and final point thats a custom game where many countries are broken up at the start. So France is actually split in 2, Occitania is southern france. Sort of cheating that said. The game is gay as fuck when its just 3 superpowers vs 3 superpowers and math.
>>520495024Baja California would have become whiteopia. Nothing to do with an empire.I agree that the rest of the territories in OP map were just a racial black hole to keep away as far as possible.
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>>520492231The US would be like like 80% hispanic now instead of 50%. The reason they only annexed the Mexican colonies is because they barely had any population and were mostly just map painting left by the Spanish Empire claims
>>520492666To be fair, this would have completely changed global dynamics. In the first place, a lot of northern Mexico had a very low population density because you had the Apache and other tribes in large swaths of Northern Mexico. Moreover, the "Mexicans" in Northern Mexico were mostly Spaniards, not Mestizos and other mixed-race peoples from Mexico City and the Mayan areas where the population density was high.Furthermore, this area would have been flooded with European settlers, just as happened everywhere else. And if annexed, a lot of the real Mexicans probably would have moved back to Mexico. Cuba is the major questionmark though. Which brings up the real reason this wasn't done, slavery. Cuba was a slave colony. So was Texas. And the North feared that the other Mexican territories might soon become slave states as well.
>>520492347>>520494675Years of Comanche raids into northern Mexico after independence from Spain had driven much of the already sparse population south. Mexico invited American settlers into Texas as bait to help put a check on the Comanches. It wasn't until Americans eradicated the Comanches much later that Mexicans started returning to the north.
>>520495408>The US would be like like 80% hispanic now instead of 50%.Naa, the entire population of Mexico was only 8 million in 1845. The territories in question were maybe 10% of the total population. The vast majority of Mexico's population was in Central Mexico. So maybe 800k. Which was a lot more than the 80k in the territories we annexed, but nothing compared to the amount of whites already in the country, and who were flooding the country from Europe. Moreover, Northern Mexico at that time was predominantly white Spaniards. And is still far more white today than Central and Southern Mexico.
>>520493769>I am sure there were practically no people there in 1845.Why do you retards always say this? “HURR THERE WERE NO PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA DURING THOSE TIMES” those states were always occupied by beaners. You obviously didn’t go to school in California because they teach us California history here.
>>520493819Because he's a wizard who knows how to evade his mommy government internet blockade? I am also in favor of merit-based privilege.
>>520493700Agreed.>>520493858Northern mexico wasn’t really that populated thoughbeit
>>520496202Retard
>>520494262It would also be much easier to cordone off the border. The border we have right now is way too long and weirdly shaped. Should have been further south and it would have been 1/3rd the size
>>520494572Cuba is a weird one, IMO it shouldn’t have been added. It makes border control more difficult
>>520492231He was kind, leaving Mexico the port of Veracruz. If he had more balls, he would have taken the Bahamas from Britain too.
>>520492347Not much population in the contiguous part south of current US border, it's desert. Cuba would have been nice to have all of, officially. We sort of had it unofficially til Justin Trudeau's father fucked that up.
>>520495299Gold mining is a nasty low margin business.
>>520495408>exonym*Hispanic Empire
>>520496442You’re the bigger retards for spreading lies
>>520496637>If he had more balls, he would have taken the Bahamas from Britain too.In time. We should have taken advantage of WW1 to sweep British and French Caribbean possessions.In the 19th century the Royal Navy would have curb stomped our fleet and wrecked all our ports after attacking the first tiny island.
>>520492426border gore
>>520492599>>520492469Puerto Rico would remains in Spain hand
>>520492231why didn't he want to take Great Lakes area and kick frogniggers out?
This is the current plan as things stand now, personally I think it’s far superior, especially considering the USA would force all the poojeets to leave Canada
>>520492914Deseret
