So far the conservative Right seems to defend Israel or lower taxes, not billionaires. In fact they hate left wing billionaires such as Mark Cuban. The left hates billionaires too but love their sponsors and rich celebrities.I know literally NO ONE who defends billionaires as a class. Not even libertarians because many rich people are anti-libertarian.
every time a Democrat says eat the rich, they end up robbing middle middle class guys like me. Why is that? that is because to the fevered liberal mind, anyone better off them them is a billionaire and deserves to be robbed.
>>520494280Half of the people who call themselves libertarians are just right wingers who want to be different from their dad. Out of all the other libertarians, maybe half of those think unlimited wealth is a natural right.
>>520494280Define “defending billioniares” and give some examples.
>>520494413Every time a le republican says don't eat the rich he robs you two times.
>>520494593You must be 18 to post.
>>520494280>this argument againget a better script commie fart
>>520494656People who make $50k/year are above 18 though. They couldn’t get a job otherwise.
>>520494413>They take 10 cents off my pay check to feed school lunches>ahhhhh I'm poor now!!!
>>520494610I expect the rich to rob me. It's how they get rich. But the other side too? WTF?!
>>520494280i mean, the billionaire that employs me pays me £48,000 per year to run his machines. the communist retard on twitter would have me share my last cheese sandwich with 11 illeagal migrants.
>>520494610>no uI pay 23% of my yearly income to the feds because the progressives of the 1900s promised income tax would only apply to the wealthiest Americans. They lied. Why should I trust people making this argument when there is a historical precedence screaming otherwise?
>>520494729$50k/year is $25/hr. You can get $20/hr at the local McD's.
>>520494280Leftist love cannabalizing the middle class for their retarded mismanaged socialist experiments.
>>520494789it was more like 40% you thieving pajeetI found a way around it, just stop working. $70k/year comes out about the same as $140k/year if you don't pay taxes so you dead beats can NEET. Don't have to commute or put up with the bosses B.S. either.
Leftoids just make shit up, they don't have real arguments. People are defending against leftoid attacks, they know the leftoids won't stop at billionaires and millionaires. They know communist policy ruins countries even if they can't articulate it.Every argument a leftoid makes is a disingenuous projection. Look at how they supported billionaires, screeching at you and me to inject ourselves with billionaire poison. Don't let these little wannabe tyrants ever forget the hell on earth they created when THEY freaked out over the fucking flu and did everything the billionaires told them to do and acted like little wind-up toy soldiers for these billionaires.
>>520494827He pays you as little as he can possibly get away with, and would replace you and all of your coworkers with more machines the nanosecond the tech becomes available.The "communist retard" is probably a union organizer who literally wants to fight him so you get paid better.
>>520494280I don't care about billionaires, both sides suck their cocks. Duh, they're extremely rich and influential. Is everyone on here 12 or something? Also I only care if my side does what I want and stops stupid leftist horseshit, which is what's happened. This thread is fucking pointless.
>>520494280who has 50k a year to pay somebody to do something?Billionaires.
>>520494888Not if you’re part time or any position other than manager (who make $19 an hour), which obviously a minor can’t get.Kind of seems like you’re the underaged here.
>>520495049>I don't care if I'm poor as long as there aren't brown people in video games
>>520494413>the middle class like methis dumb dumb gets all mad about school lunches while he gleefully writes a check to Israel lmao
>>520495147And there should be boobies too.
>>520494280>unioninstitutionalized participation trophy laborers is more like it.
>>520495048>He pays you as little as he can possibly get away withfair enough. no one else in my area is paying anywhere close to that. they're his machines.>The "communist retard" is >probably >a union organizer who literally wants to fight him so you get paid betterno union rep has ever done a proper days work in their life. they are bigger leeches than landlords.
>>520495001>noooooo why do I have work and pay taxes for so my fellow countrymen doesn't starve and die on the street and become a net drain on my society!!!!>ahhhhh I better vote in a fascist government to make it even worse!!
>>520494280>lower taxesfor billionaires.....you DONUT
>>520495147or men walking around in dresses expecting people to treat them like women. Or for-profit doctors salivating at the thought of chopping tits and dicks off kids and being celebrated by deranged leftist media. Or retarded blue haired cunts screaming in my face I'm a racist sexist bigot and expecting me to care. Or nigs tunning around thinking they wuz kangz because some dumb nig overdosed in police custody. Or short squat spics flooding the country and demanding welfare. Or everyone but white straight men being oppressed and demanding special treatment. But you live in your over-simplified childlike fantasy, libtard.
>>520495378Alright then, have fun being poor for now and unemployed in a few years. I'm sure your kids won't mind when your wife shacks up with a rich Indian when you can't provide for your family anymore.Maybe communism will make more sense then.
>>520495547see>>520495573
>>520495573>wife shacks up with a rich indianHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOh lol that's fucking hilarious. Shut the fuck up pajeet, your retarded brown brain's retarded fantasies that any white woman would ever touch you even for all the money in the world. Also you are just a poor piece of shit somehow even lower than niggers in the social strata of America. Lol what a fucking retard.
>>520495048>and would replace you and all of your coworkers with more machines the nanosecond the tech becomes availablei'll start getting worried as soon as they can replicate human hands but until boston dynamics or whoever comes up with a decent human analogue my job is safe.
What’s a good salary nowadays?
>>520494280>This or thatNeither. The government should not get more money.
>>520495838at least 70k if you want to live.
You guys are making 50k a year?
>>520494280Who is defending billionaires? I just know that if the government taxes billionaires they're going to tax me and the working class twice as much and it'll effect us much more.>>520494525>Out of all the other libertarians, maybe half of those think unlimited wealth is a natural right.You don't even believe in any rights so don't be a hypocrite.
>>520495825>i'll start getting worried as soon as they can replicate human handsthey already have robot hands that have more degrees of freedom than a human hand.at this point it's literally just a software problem.humanoid robots are already hitting the market.
>>520494280Oy vey, this thread is very anti-Semitic
>>520495449Fuck you leave me alone. Waste of time arguing with a leaf.
>>520494280You Lost Cope. Seethe. Rope.
>Envy is good!>You should covet the wealth of others!>Kill people to take their things because they have more than you!The left is nigger-tier.
>>520494789>10 centsGod I wish>To school lunchesGod. I. Wish.
>>520494280Leftist defend every policy and cultural development pushed by billionaires, but they want to kill billionaires. It's just retardation combined with malevolence. Rightists actually fight against billionaires, but they don't want to kill them.
>>520495208Watching some lazy white dipshit in a trailer across town leech off my tax dollars is different from sending it off to kill muzzies in the sandbox. I run into that lazy entitled peckerwood at Walmart and have to hold back my rage while he scans his EBT card at the checkout. Israel is a pure Nietzschean project of will to power. I'm proud to send my tax dollars there. Cletus is white genetic trash unfit to survive in a Darwinian meritocracy.
>>520495573>have fun being poor for nowhow is £48,000 a year poor?>unemployed soonyeah as soon as they invent the replicants from blade runner>wife shacks up with a rich indian>rich indianlol, lmao. also im gay and not married.
>>520495939It's a problem of private property, if i can own a robot for defence and automated labor then it shouldn't be much of a problem, however if they ban it for me and allow oligarchs and politicians to do it that's going to be an insane problem for everyone.
>>520496030It would probably be about 10 cents in taxes to pay for school lunches. >>520495961>nooooo stop pointing out how a strong society should take care of their poor and sick!!!
>>520495449>you just have to keep giving the net drains on society more benniesHow about they work and pay taxes so we can use the system like it was intended?
>>520496022>If you don't think billionaires should exist you're just jealousThat's like saying that if you don't think child-rapists should exist then you must just want to rape kids.Billionaires are thieves. It just so happens the theft they engage in is (mostly) legal.
>>520495939oh no. in that case i guess i'll just throw my whole life down the toilet and embrace communism.
>I benefit from something>but a billionaire benefits from it so we can'd do that>instead we have to make everyone's life worse to punish billionaires for being too successfulIDK I'd rather enjoy what success I have instead of self-sabotaging to own the billies
>>520496208billionaires not going to let you hit little bro
>>520496137>It would probably be about 10 cents in taxes to pay for school lunches.Filter that through about a thousand politicians and government employees and you'll end up with 0.001 cents.
>>520496193
>>520496197Why exactly would embracing communism require you to "throw your whole life down the toilet"?Is it because your entire shallow identity is centered around hating communism?
lowering taxes = defending billionaires.During America's golden age we used to have a 90% tax on the mega wealthy. Everyone used to be able to afford a house, food, healthcare, wife used to get to stay at home and raise your four children, white picket fence and a dog..... People fall victim to billionare propaganda always trying to conflate tax brackets and taxation. When we talk about raising taxes its always for the mega wealthy. Middle class, lower class and poverty brackets are never touched.
>>520496313Because socialists steal your private property and kill you.
>>520494280Go try to talk about how pay should rise or things should cost less. Count the people screaming you want "free shit" and youre a "commie". Hundreds of threads, its almost always 60% lolberts. The board turned into r/theDonald.>>520494413You just SAY that, but you can never ever ever specificly point to anything that ever actually happened.
>>520494280>lower taxesFor billionaires.The whole healthcare cuts was about cutting billionaire taxes. Healthcare was cut to offset the tax decrease on billionaires.
>>520496313because id lose my job, house, car etc because you killed my boss and gave his factory to a trans lesbian who used to write slam poetry for a living.
>>520496313Because historically it has never worked to empower impoverished people and you can not point to historical evidence showing otherwise. You are the dogmatically captured christcuck of politics, demanding procedures be implemented that are obviously detrimental to your already pathetic and ignorant existence
>>520496483>>520496367Damn, that sounds a lot like billionaires.Except, you know... in reality, not in people's feeble imaginations.
>wagies defending our CEO overlordsyes
>>520494280I take great offense to this. I make as much as a McDonalds wagie, not 50k a year.
If you're poor and defend billionaires you are sucker. Kill yourself. It sucks to be a poor. Get rich or die trying nigger.
>>520496554>Because historically it has never worked to empower impoverished peopleCuba has a longer life expectancy than the US despite having 1/20 the GDP per capita.China is the world's number 1 largest economy - they've lifted 600 million people out of deep poverty in one generation.
>>520496620>n-no upathetic
>>520496682>no rebuttalpathetic.
The whole “le defend billioniares” thing is well poisoning for actual legitimate criticism against billioniares (aka jews).Some faggot will say “wow you’re really defending billioniares!” or something along those lines when a billioniare does anything or when anything happens to them.They could get cancer or celebrate their kid’s graduation and someone will attack them solely because they are billioniares.This poisons the well of legitimate criticism against them when billioniares lobby congress to change laws to favor them even more, or when they cause mass layoffs so their shareholders see profits are technically up. It causes people to take such issues less seriously because it’s coming from someone clearly spiteful.
>>520496144People are getting laid off in record numbers right now. Better cut taxes, and they better just pull their boot straps up harder.
leftoids seem to think billionaires have a giant vault of money they can dive into and swim in like scrooge mcduckthey own a piece of a company that people use. illiquid equity in something ostensibly useful, if you don't like bezos' wealth then stop hitting "add to cart".what you can actually swim, and drown in are the trillions printed by the fed. corporate lobbies and regulatory capture then ensure that those trillions are leveraged before devaluation effects are felt by plebs like us.taxing the billionaires individually will achieve almost nothing if they have an endless amount of loopholes and workarounds to avoid having an income on paper. we need to turn off the spigot, and remove the fiscal safety nets. "too big to fail" mentality has had absolutely catastrophic implications.it's not even partisan. neither left nor right has actually proposed anything that addresses this problem.
>>520496620What?
>>520494280Nobody defends millionaires better than dudes making $50k/year.
>>520496271I have my own life that doesn't really involve billionaires at all. I just vote for my own priorities. Turns out other people also do the same thing. I've noticed that people on the left have a learned helplessness when it comes to finances, so they'd rather just be taken care of by the government even if it means knee-capping everyone else.
>>520496731>People are getting laid off in record numbers right now.If only we'd stopped troons from reading to children.
>>520496781If we redistributed every single dollar every rich person has everyone would get like 20,000 dollars and then the entire economy would collapse and everyone would starve and die.
>>520496681How many Cubans do you know? I know a few from working in a factory and they’d die before they ever went back. >Using China as a measure of successful communism Lmao even. Are you being facetious or are you actually that stupid?
>>520495863Basically a pointless sentiment. Left to your own devices the system will not get more fair, the rich will get more powerful. When we're talking Musk or Bezos or Zuckerberg level people, the ONLY group that can step to them is the government and they can only really attack them by forcibly redistributing their wealth.All rhetoric and no praxis.
>>520496696would you take the factory and redistribute its resources?
>>520494789Democrats steal from the middle class up give to illegals. You're too far in your cult to acknowledge and accept this.
>>520496792LOL
>>520496341>When we talk about raising taxes its always for the mega wealthy. Middle class, lower class and poverty brackets are never touched.That isn't what happened with the income tax was implemented. It was originally passed via constitutional amendment to target the mega wealthy in 1913. Now it applies to everyone. Why should I pay 22% of my income when I make less than $100k a year? Why should I trust you when the opposite has happened? >>520496420>You just SAY thatSee above. In addition, if you let people keep their money they cold actually afford things.
>>520496855>Corrupt scumbags who fled Cuba don't like itcool story bro.
>>520496341The real issue with communism and leftism is not about wealth, taxation, or unions. It's about the people. The ones pushing for it are malevolent antifa degenerates shilling for population replacement, feminism and the destruction of local industry, families, and everything white, western, or Christian. It's really hard to support higher taxes in any bracket when it's going to be used for Mtumbe, Achmed, and their extended families. If socialists embraced nationalism, they might have a reasonable platform. But they won't because that'd make them Nazis, and that's the arch devil in the religion that is, funnily enough, promoted by liberal billionaires who have a stranglehold on western institutions.
>>520496844exactly this, and that's not even accounting for the fact that you couldn't liquidate all those assets anyways. as soon as you sell, the market craters because it's all speculative.
>>520496814cool story, billionaires still not going to let you hit
Stop blaming billionaires. Start blaming millionaires. There are 800 billionaires. There are 25 million millionaires.
>>520494280Billionaire jews and the banking system they use to exploit us are the enemy. Unfortunately cloying retards who would happily stab me in the back to loot my corpse are also enemies and those are the people who constantly bitch about the rich without knowing what's truly evil about them. Hell, most of these freaks think the problem is White people. If a revolution headed by the ethnic slurry and useless eaters started today they would ignore the billionaires and go straight for their mildly successful neighbors.
>>520496844oh yes, because otherwise "the economy" would be as resilient as we see in Argentina- the poster child of a libertarian success story. so successful they needed $20B from the IMF and another $40B from the US. cha-ching.
>>520497002They are the official numbers bro. You won't see the Windsors, Sassoon, Warburg etcm on the Forbes list for example.
>>520496928This is just because of decades of well-poisoning by (you guessed it) the uber-wealthy to make the working classes repulsed by communism.Pure communism is still the best hope for the survival of humanity.These rich fucks are literally on track to cause a global extinction event the likes of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.There's fucking plastic in your blood. Most plastics haven't even existed for 100 years.
>>520497117Who cares. Millionaires are a bigger problem then billionaires.
>>520496731>People are getting laid off in record numbers right now.The unemployment rate has been in the mid to high teens since 2020, most of that is due to simple lack of labor participation. I fail to see how this answers my question.
>>520494789The average American that works 30yrs will have 10 entire years of his salary eaten by taxes.
>>520497163The devaluation of the dollar shifted a lot of upper middle class families and home owners into millionaire status.
>>520497195>most of that is due to simple lack of labor participation.Is that the truth or are you making a typical boomerism? >>520496875Oh, so an illegal immigrant can just get medicaid?
The upper class, lower class and lower middle class support the billionaires. So anyone making under 60k and over 200k support billionaires.Middle class and upper middle class do not. So anyone between 60 and 200k do not.
>>520497207People who call capitalism being forced to pay over 50% in taxes by threat of imprisonment from the state are morons. >>520497253Millionaires are the ones causing the amount of problems you're complaining about.
>>520494789fuck em. tired of supporting retards because nigger governemntsthats my dime you theiving nigger
When far leftists say eat the rich, they don't mean Soros or Rockefeller, they mean you and other upper middle class people who are comfortable with their finances and can afford sparce luxuries.
>>520496483This is the gayest fanfic ever... are you sure you didn't write your kink?
>>520494413you think most republicans are any better? they want you to racemix with niggers so your whole bloodline is either locked into public housing or being renters or just living with your parents like a house slave uncle tom
>>520497292>Yes, in Illinois’ FY2025 budget (passed June 2024), $629 million was allocated for Health Benefits for Illegal Immigrant Adults, exceeding the combined $502 million for: road repairs ($400M), elderly meals ($55.3M), foster care expansion ($22.1M), and arts council ($24.6M)
>>520497163Millionaires don't vote for endless 'free shit' that turns out to paid out of our own pockets.t. multi
>>520497433Pay more in taxes bitch.
>>520496088You are completely warped in the brain
>>520497406He’s recounting what happened in the kulak spiral in Soviet Russia
>>520494280OP, you are obviously missing the point of that image... it isn't saying they actively defends billionaires, it is saying that by mindlessly working hard for a measly $50K per year, you are enriching your billionaire employers.
>>520494280>nobody defends the guy getting mugged like the guy who isn't getting mugged smdh bludIdeology of niggers, worse considering the followup argument is usually shame based and aimed at embarassing the working class into going along with the pillaging. Ideology of nigger women.>>520496341Exact same argument made when the income tax was proposed. You also conflate state tax income with people living better lives despite those people receiving less welfare than today. Finally, you need to look up the taxes actually paid by the wealthy back then. Who cares if the tax rate on gignillionaires was eleventy billion percent if they only ever ended up paying 5?
>>520496088Also I have a feeling you're a politician
>>520497292>Is that the truth or are you making a typical boomerism?It is. The numbers they post though BLS are worthless because the feds cook the books like the Soviets did to make themselves look better. You may not like to think it but many young people have just said "fuck it." I don't blame them.
>>520497144>The best hope for humanity’s survival>System that has failed multiple times on its own because fundementally a system without motivation can’t functioninb4 “but surely it’ll work when I’m in charge!”
>>520497515It’s always a lopsided power grab by people who couldn’t work in the current system or who don’t possess enough merit to be elected to anything fairly
>>520497515>failed multiple times on its ownIf it failed on its own, why did the US spend so much time and money trying to make it fail?We coup'd like 15 or 20 communist / socialist governments in the 20th century alone.
>>520497302The guy who owns a small plumbing business and owns a 2 bedroom house is not causing problems. Fiat currency and the debt based economy run as an infinite money generator for jew bankers is the problem. This system is a ponzi scheme that requires infinite population growth to cover up how extractive and fake it is which has led to kikes importing the third world into my country. That ethnic slurry is too stupid to truly understand anything wrong with the system which makes them receptive to the kind of kulak eradication narrative you're spewing.
>>520497661>The guy who owns a small plumbing business and owns a 2 bedroom house is not causing problemsSmall business owners are literally the WORST bosses.They hate their fucking employees because they see every penny they pay them as a penny out of their own pocket.I've worked for small businesses and big corporations.The latter are better in every conceivable way.
>>520494413this guy gets it. All the seething jews replying to him is just proof he is right
>>520497709So it's personal resentment for you. Not surprised.
>>520497642>If it failed on its own, why did the US spend so much time and money trying to make it fail?Because the Soviet Union was doing the same thing. The difference is the US at least had competent management. The Soviet Union was run by morons who believed corn would solve their constant food shortages due to backwards agricultural polices. This caused a near implosion of the global grain market in the 1970s.
>>520497661Then your answer is not to blame billionaires since inflation will catch up to them too. My point is stop blaming billionaires, blame millionaires. They are the mass majority of the ones creating the problems you're complaining about.
>>520497416>look at this big number!Ok now do how much everyone else is getting spent on and see the drop in the bucket. Illinois wants universal Healthcare. That includes taking care of noncitizens for basic care.
>>520497771No, not at all. I just have enough experience to be able to see the difference.I'm actually pretty close to being a millionaire myself. I make like $109k after taxes and I've invested well.But I also think it's a sin for people like Bezos to spend $500 million on a boat while a sizable part of his workforce are literally homeless senior citizens.
>>520494280Not buying your marxist fantasies, kike.
>>520497813You missed the part where you were supposed to explain why we needed to spend so much money making it fail when it would have inevitably done so anyway.
>>520497847>spending more money on healthcare for illegals than social programs for the tax payers is okayAgain, You're too far in your cult to acknowledge and accept this.
>>520494280If taxes didn’t go to sandniggers , kikes and gorilla niggers I wouldn’t mind them as much
>>520497471Fuck you. I pay more in a year than you've paid in your fucking miserable life.
>>520497207yeah and the average american who works 30 seconds will have 10 seconds of his pay eaten up. it's not that bad
>>520497979Good. Pay more. Tax millionaires.
>>520497406well i am gay but which part about redistributing infrastructure to retards who know literally nothing about that infrastructire is incorrect?
"IF I DEFEND THEM THEY'LL HOOK ME UP"Trickle Down has NEVER worked. Tax the fuckers. You'll never hit the lottery. You'll never be one of them.
It's lefty faggotry. Leftists love the (((rich))) they love (((billionaires))) pushing LGBTQP and open borders to have an infinite supply of scab labor. They hate Middle America with a seething, endless fury and constantly wish death upon the White working class. They only pretend to care because pretending is their native language. Nigger worship, faggotry and abortion are their only sacred cattle and the only things you can't criticize in left spaces.>>520495547Don't feed low effort trolls retarded newfag
>>520497938>You missed the part where you were supposed to explain why we needed to spend so much money making it fail when it would have inevitably done so anyway.Do you not know how to read? The Soviets were doing the same thing. This is great power politics. The difference was the competence of the management. Now the US has the same kind of incompetent retards running it, dooming us to failure. Its been this way since the 1990s when the Soviet Union imploded.
>>520494413fpbpStill waiting for a leftist to tell me how tariffs get passed on to the consumer when taxes somehow magically won't.It's easier for corps to dodge taxes than tariffs because port authorities and similar methods of collection are harder to dodge than a million sketchily enforced loopholes in a 30 page tax code. Also taxes are by and large directly aimed at the middle class whereas tarriffs are not.>>520494610Everytime a libtard repeats their asinine cargo cult chants MSNBC, CNN, Vox, Axios, Reddit, Huffpost, Huma Abdein and Alex Soros deposit a nickel to their bank accounts.It will take 5 Democrats to end the shutdown. That is because they have the lazy ass fillibuster activated against Senate, the one where they just tick a box and then go home while Pelosi sucks down more rum. That is because the bill to fund the government was already passed by simple majority from the Republicans but they need MORE votes to have cloture. Cloture is invoked to end fillibusters, like the Democrat fillibuster currently keeping government shutdown.Other R initiatives to end around the fillibuster are proceeding including: ending fillibusters via SC, and compromise: require ID to get snap, wic, and other benefits which the D's will try to stop because they only have allegiances to what keeps them in power: importing foreign mob rule rather than US citizens and taxpayers.Thank you for your attention to this message.
>>520494593Oddly enough, it's usually about immigration. Progressives call it "defending billionaires" when you object to continuing their access to unlimited cheap labor from foreign scabs.
>>520494280Union workers are what happens when you take all the toxic behavior of a nepobaby billionaire and make it start at zero.
>>520497512>they lie Oh ok.
>>520494656The reason you lefties are here is because you are scared of being arrested and think you are at least safe as anonymoose.You aren't.
>>520497959>People who would use welfare are using it. Wow you're really onto something. We better just cut off all programs and let them starve and die on the streets.
>>520498284I know perfectly well how to read.I also know perfectly well that you (still) didn't explain why we needed to spend so much money making communism fail if it was going to fail anyway.
>>520495123He just has never had a real job. He asked gpt what mcdonalds workers make and forgot to specify midwest only or something.
>>520498316>governments would never lie about what is going on
>>520498411>We better just cut off all programs and let them starve and die on the streets.Or maybe they can just go home?
>>520497577No matter what, communism will never work in reality. You can forget about muh bad actors and muh powergrabs because communism doesn’t work out on a fundemental level.This is because communism’s fundementals mean important jobs will get overlooked by the average person. If you take wages and nationality out of the equation for careers, no one would willingly work to clean sewage or dispose of trash. This in turn causes communist countries to force people into jobs they don’t want for the same wage (aka none) as everyone else.The other fundemental flaw with communism is entrusting all your money with a select few people. A few people who can’t be contested since they control all ownership. Even if you don’t start out with bad actors, those bad actors will crawl out of the woodwork to gain all that power. And all those good actors aren’t immortal either and will eventually die.Capitalism has its flaws, but none of those flaws are fundemental and Capitalism requires a lot more to go wrong to collapse than Communism.
>>520495378you have never heard of pinkertons cause your cuntry's entire history is swords & dragons. Maybe be a real empire for once instead of shitting jeets and muslims all over the planet. You guys SUCK and i wish SLAVESHIP USA killed you in both world wars. The world would be a much better place.
>>520498474>but I know the truth. So it was a boomerism all along. >>520498548>just go home. Maybe you can just stop bitching about a non issue? Again, how much does the state of illinois spend on everyone else? You are cherry picking. You wouldn't be dishonest on the internet would you anon?
>>520497292>leaf shocked to learn leftists are absolutely corrupt in the USA> Harjinder Singh, an undocumented immigrant who obtained a commercial license in California, had his work authorization approved under the Biden AdministrationWhat's it going to take?
Its basically LOTTERY SYNDROME
>>520498419>I also know perfectly well that you (still) didn't explain why we needed to spend so much money making communism fail if it was going to fail anyway.No, you just don't like the explanation because it doesn't conform with the narrative you've bought into. Soviets were doing the same thing even though capitalism in their eyes was doomed to fail on its own. We had the same view of them. So we both decided to try and speed things up. We won. It's really that simple but you insist on being obtuse.
>>520498779>leftists are absolutely corrupt in the USATrump literally took a $400 million plane as a gift.
>>520496137>would probably be about 10 cents in taxes to pay for school lunches.I'm sick of the whole "SCHOOL LUNCHES" shit.My state's school funding is busted. The TL;DR of it is that the state just gives more money to upper-income cities and tells the farm kids to go fuck themselves, and when I was in school if you wanted a "hot lunch" that day you had to pay $2.50 to get a small tray with... what, a small square of "imitation pizza product," a couple sticks of celery and carrots, applesauce and a carton of milk. I can only imagine that's gotten more expensive ever since, so don't tell me my taxes are going to paying for that when, for 99% of meals at the schools I grew up in, they weren't and aren't. I fucking wish my taxes were going to those kids instead of bailouts for Israel and funding Nancy Pelosi's booze stash and whatever slush fund the DNC is running, whichever corporate bailout the GOP is gifting, or however many gibs the niggers are getting. Categorically, a lot of my taxes are a waste that benefit neither my community or me.It's not 10 cents either. I'd say for the last job I worked I only took home a solid 3/4 of the money I earned. It's retarded, and arrogantly out-of-touch when people presume how much I pay and what I do and don't need.
>>520498736>Maybe you can just stop bitching about a non issue?It is not a non-issue. These people are scabs, their presence here serves the interests of billionaires, and they're going back to the other side of the picket line.
>>520494280>Is anyone is really defending billionaires?yes retard
>>520497709>Small business owners are literally the WORST bosses.And here the socialist reveals his true nature.
>>520498736>So it was a boomerism all along.Nope. You're just an idiot.
>>520498888You still have not explained why we needed to lift a finger to make communism fail if it was going to fail anyway."The soviets were helping smaller communist states" is not an explanation, no matter how many times you repeat it.Nice digits. Unfortunately totally wasted.
>>520498970>And here the socialist reveals his true nature.An experienced worker with a realistic appraisal of the world?
>>520494280Trump just pardoned a billionaire for crimes so yes
>>520494280>unions shitting on their potential rank & file to impress white collar faggots
>>520494413If you got in enough dems we would had universal healthcare already
>>520494280Why do impoverished niggers in Illinois love their kike billionaire governor?
>>520498779>look at this specific case for me to be outraged over. >>520498962So it's the billionaires who are the issue? Finally something we an agree on.
Leftists quite literally advocate for everything their billionaires want.
>>520498736>stop bitching about half a trillion dollars going towards illegals every yearGo to hell. This is eh we don't have healthcare. This is why we don't have public education.
>>520494280Because they end up destroying everything in their stupid wake on the way to slay the dragon, and when we object to the damage they think we're siding with the dragon, because they are actually this fucking stupid.
>>520498897>this is relavant to the fact leftist policies allowed retards who can't read to operate heavy machinery on highways>directly resulting in death and injury You are painfully stupid.
>>520498679>everything should be more fair>we'll institute the fairness czar and he'll judge every transaction to make sure no one acquires too much money or property>no kings though that'd be like a dictator and stuffI mean even with immortal King Arthur from legend himself the decision making alone simply won't scale up is merely the beginning of commie stupidity.>we'll do it through AI look how fair we've made the AI about speech for examplelol, lmao>oh but drumpf is a king blah blah insert cargo cult liberalism shit hereDrumpf keeps bending over backwards for judges and legal proceedings oddly enough for a supposed monarch.>>520498897>oh plane as a gift oh noes>literally in the government fleet now for freeHey guess what no one died either.Are you stupid? Is the ballroom a gift too now? Who is funding the ballroom do you even know?
>>520496696>no rebuttalWas that meant for >>520496620?This is something else that pissed me off about you ilk. You say absolutely dogshit non-arguments, then act like you're entitled for people to give you a serious retort.
>>520498918Michelle Obama tried to create a food program and reform it to something like they have in Britain, and every conservative and republican lost their shit. So go ahead poopoo the democrats. You votes agaisnt a solid reform.
Remember that MIGA cocksuckers defend bailouts for billionaire kiddy fuckers and Israel
>>520494280Yes. Trumpfags love billionaires
>>520499145And the democrats have never radically raised taxes on billionaires in the entire modern era. It’s empty rhetoric
growing up lower middle class and now being upper middle class i realized i hate poor people more than the richthe main reason is poor people are proud of being ignorant
>>520499293Remember that tranny cocksuckers defend bailouts for millionaire kiddy fuckers and Israel
>>520499267>literally in the government fleet now for freehe's planning on keeping it after he leaves office.they're going to "transfer" it to the Trump Presidential library so he can keep using it.AFTER spending taxpayer money to update it.
>>520499326>You're not allowed to throw parties because niggers can't buy free groceries Huh?????
>>520499193Now Illinois issue is a country wide issue? Shit... better allocate all that funding to more war machines for Isreal and Ukraine.
>>520499269>You say absolutely dogshit non-argumentsWhere's the lie?Billionaires take your shit.They cause people to become homeless and unemployed every day of every year.
>>520499465You're so dumb you don't even understand the difference between state and country spending. You are incredibly stupid.
>>520499102You had that during obamacare so no
>>520499406so infinitely cheaper than what other presidents would do, make the taxpayer foot the cost on the plane AND the upgrades, instead of just the upgrades
>>520499213>leftist policies allowed retards who can't read to operate heavy machinery on highwaysyou... don't even know what leftism is, do you?
>>520499008>no I don't like your explanation so its wrong >now let me misquote youNo, I said they were trying to undermine us. So, we in kind returned the favor. The fact this simple explanation is unacceptable to you indicates you are either too stupid to understand it or simply unable to refute it. Like most communists you are not nearly as intelligent as you think you are. >w-wased digits! I was blessed with quads because I am right, and you are dumb. Seethe about it.
>>520499556The difference is that other presidents don't take the plane as their own personal property after leaving office.
>>520499585>leftists issuing "no name given" drivers licenses and CDLs to illegal aliens>hurr you dont even know what leftism is!
>>520499612>its ok that its more expensive for the taxpayer because they promise not to take the planeyour point, whatever it was, fell flat on its face about here
How is this different than saying Jew nigger pet slaves go back Jew face
>>520499528I don't think you realize how expensive Obamacare was for productive people. It was a blank check to the insurance companies and a tax on the middle class to give more free shit to poors.
>>520499600You're blindingly retarded.We've continued undermining socialist governments (Venezuela, North Korea) even after the fall of communism.And you STILL haven't explained why we needed to do anything if communism would've just failed on its own.
>>520499441what is the French Revolution
>>520494280Billionaires create jobs and markets and stuff that you can repair or sell, wtfofc you have to defend them, thats good valuable people
>>520499683My point is that Trump took a $400 million plane as a personal gift.That's textbook corruption.>>520499635That's not leftism. That's just corruption.Leftism is communism / socialism.
>>520499326It only takes 5 democrats to end the fillibuster they are running then the government shutdown would end.The budget is *already* passed in house and senate by simple majority, it's democrats currently blocking it by fillibuster to leverage american suffering so they can get healthcare for illegals and troongrooms for kids.
it's not that i love billionaires, i just dont want the plebs to have more gibs, which means higher inflation
>>520494280You retards have spent a decade defending orange nigger billionaire
>>520494593Being against higher taxes for the rich Being against unions
>>520499528Obamacare was not universal healthcare. It just forced insurance companies to offer plans to individuals.
>>520499585>u don't even know what leftism isAh yes, the excuse you always give when policy pans out like a wet fart.
>>520499513Caring for and housing people who want to become citizens isn't an issue to me. Because that's what most of the funding goes to, people who need basic assistance to get their asses in gear. If not, they get kicked out. As we are seeing with the ICE blitz.
>>520494789>10 centsThis nigger lives off of welfare lmao
>>520499772Everything you just said is a lie. Please kys
>>520499771So is Biden pardoning his family and Hunter siphoning off Ukraine energy funds with a seat on their board that he brought his crackhead expertise to, I don't give a fuck about your predicted future that hasn't even happened yet as the plane is currently in the government fleet.More cargo cult shit that you just make up with teams of reddit Nostradamuses.
>>520499868We know you love gimmigrants. That's why your country is now a truck stop for street shitters and the triad.
>>520494280There actually used to be a very large minority of republicans who once did rabidly defend billionaires. This was back in the 2000s until OWS. It was a boomerism, dont think too deeply about it.
>>520499858Education in this country is truly shit.miggers believe:>Transgenderism is leftism>Illegal immigration is leftism>Brown people in video games is leftismwhile at the same time...>Massive subsidies for Tesla is free market capitalism
>>520494888You’re mentally retarded. No you do not make $20 per hour at mcdonalds anywhere outside very expensive suburbs in portland. Which im guessing is where you are from.
>>520499841It was an example of what dems do when they have power. Get more money for their donor classes and fuck everything up more.
>>520499957>So is Biden pardoning his family and Hunter siphoning off Ukraine energy fundsBold of you to assume I'd defend any of that.
>>520499959I just don't hate poeple for wanting to live a better life anon. You do. Sad.
>>520499715>And you STILL haven't explained why we needed to do anything if communism would've just failed on its own.No, I have. You just don't like it because it doesn't fit your narrative.
>>520496875If billionaires paid their fair share of taxes then we would have more money for other things but because the right protected billionaires from paying their fair share we only have enough to feed the needy which us important because we are actual decent human beings that do not want people starving to death like the heartless right wing
>>520499829You’ve spent decades advocating for a party that never does anything against the rich and only says they will. You are the biggest retard
>>520500122Niggle me this, retard:Why hasn't Cuba failed on its own yet?Or North Korea?Or China?And that's WITH decades of the US doing everything in its power to bring them down...
>>520499132>So it's the billionaires who are the issue?Yes. And this immigrant population is a tool that they use against domestic workers. They are not our class allies, they have no interest in becoming our class allies, and it is impossible for them to ever become our class allies for a hundred different reasons. Billionaires are the problem - and the fact that they import scabs to undermine us in our own countries is one of the reasons why.
>>520499947Here's The Guardian backing up exactly what I saidSource: https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/31/trump-filibuster-explainer-government-shutdown
>>520499841You forgot penalizing anyone who doesn’t carry private insurance
>>520497661He is the problem because he advocates for billionaires paying less taxes and anti-worker policies that give billionaires more money and power
If you aren't defending billionaires, why do you hate unions and socialist policies? Why aren't you idolizing the white men who were shot dead by Jew bankers at the Battle of Blaire Mountain using machine guns and planes full of bombs rented from the US government? Why are you idolizing grifters from the coasts whose parents arrived here 60 years ago and want to make you poor?
>>520500078They don't want your lifestyle. They want the products of your lifestyle. Their better life is their current life supplemented by your wealth and goods. No culture can absorb this kind of outsider.
>>520499992>Transgenderism is leftism>Illegal immigration is leftism>Brown people in video games is leftismWhen the people pushing all of this shit describe themsleves as leftists, carry communist and tranny flags and try to start riots over the feds enforcing immigration law people will arrive at the conclusion is they are leftists.>Massive subsidies for Tesla is free market capitalismI don't think we've had a free market in this country since the 1930s. Nice try strawmanning.
>>520494280What is a billionaire a billionaire in?
>>520500237I’m not a republican tho
>>520494280>The left hates billionaires too but love their sponsors and rich celebrities.
>>520500243Define failed. Cuba and North Korea are living decades behind the rest of the world. Best Korea has had famines in the fucking 90's. China is very loosely communist, they're taking advantage of the world's capitalist market while their people work slave jobs at the plastic shit factories.
>>520500366>people will arrive at the conclusion is they are leftists.considering that 70% of Americans literally believe in angels, I don't really give a fuck.those aren't leftist policies.the USSR had like 0 AIDS cases.but free market Russia is a world leader in AIDS.
>>520495573Saar please stop embarassment to us
>>520499278>and every conservative and republican lost their shit.What a disingenuous oversimplification...Yeah, I guess all of these teens were conservatives.https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rachelzarrell/teens-are-sarcastically-tweeting-thanksmichelleobama-with-thBig Mike's program had problems and, for most cases, didn't actually address that children were still buying lunches. The free lunches were still income-based, her program just expanded some of the requirements.
This thread proves that people are swinging back to the left. I am so happy that people on this forsaken website are seeing the light and becoming left wing and joining the good side of history. It’s true what they say. Love always triumphs over hate. Great victory comrades. We have won this thread
>>520500484North Korea has zero homelessness.Rich af worst Korea has one of the highest rates of homeless seniors in the world.Cuba has a longer life expectancy than the US for both men and women, on 1/20 the GDP per capita.
>>520500339So they want a better standard of living? Why should I be angry about that?
>>520500273Let me clarify. Republicans in the end the shutdown without the Democrats. They're choosing not to because they want to increase healthcare premiums before all citizens, but Democrats won't let them.
>>520500243I understand you don't like the explanation because it doesn't fit into your narrative. You asking rhetorical questions and improperlly using ellipsis isn't going to make that narrative somehow correct.
>>520499497Yeah dude I remember when Jeff Bezos came to my- I mean 'our' house to steal my- 'our' car.Fucking retard. Take that pseudointellectual smarm back to plebbit and leave it at the door next time.
>>520496681>>520496926>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY!Literally everyone knows that Cuba is a hellscape.
>>520500271People seem to forget that the entire reason wages are shit is due to how disposable labor is. In industries like specialist construction, people ARE paid a decent wage and treated well, because you can't just toss them aside and replace them when they say "we should form a union". There's a reason EVERY billionaire desperately wants immigration to stay the same. It depresses wages and prevents union formation due to the glut of labor.
>>520494280Nobody hates dudes who make 50k a year more than people who say they hate billionaires.
>>520500674You did not explain why we needed to spend a fortune bringing down communism if it would've failed on its own."USSR was undermining us" is not an explanation.It's not that I don't like your explanation.It's that you haven't provided one.
>>520500689Amazon put literally thousands of companies out of business.Amazon just announced 30k layoffs last week.>>520500713>Literally everyone knows that Cuba is a hellscape.With a longer life expectancy than the US.
>>520499992>>Transgenderism is leftism>>Illegal immigration is leftismFor someone quick to type "where's the lie," you didn't actually refute these.
>>520500518>more seething because you're too stupid to articulate an actual point You do give a fuck. That is the funniest part.
>>520495931>I know what you believe because you dont agree with me 100%
>>520500662>let me now backpedalFuck you, the Democrats are holding the gov't hostage with a filibuster.>I have a leftist now quoting that lunatic MTG at me to try to disprove my Guardian linksYou'll crawl on your belly through still more rhetorical cargo cult shit before all this is over and you'll still lose.>they can end the shutdown without democrats>but the democrats won't let themlol listen to yourself for just two seconds
>>520500855>the Cuban government claims
>>520500875You know what? You're right.I do care that I have to share a country with crayon-eating retards.It makes me depressed.It's like living in Idiocracy.I would leave to go to a smarter country but my parents and my friends are all here and I don't speak any other language.All other english-speaking countries are equally retarded, as far as I can tell.
>>520500773>"USSR was undermining us" is not an explanation.Yes it is. You just don't like it because you honestly believe communism is the only way to save humanity or some other faggy nonsnese. The US was acting in its interests undermining the Soviet Union. So it did. Again, you are either too stupid to understand it or cannot refute it. I'm leaning towards the former based on the rest of your posts.
>>520499947Behold, the typical informed leftist.
So much jew worship in this thread, it's truly over
>>520494280Defense of Israel is a bit too strongly worded, we just don't care about them slaughtering your favourite sandniggers.
>>520500855>Amazon put literally thousands of companies out of businessThat's not theft, retard.There's plenty to criticize about Amazon's business practices, but trying to say that their market expansion is the same as "the state" repossessing property is so retarded I cannot actually fathom how the connection can be made in your mind, other than as the result of mental flailing.You said a lot of stupid shit this thread, and it seems like you're trying to one-up your own retardation as the thread goes.
>>520501084>you honestly believe communism is the only way to save humanity or some other faggy nonsnese.Look at the world that capitalism has created.You have plastic in your blood.Every ecosystem on earth is collapsing.Educated countries have a TFR of ~1.5 while third world shitholes reproduce faster than they can count them.
>>520501190It's not just market expansion. Amazon "works with" small businesses regularly then rips off their business model and puts them under.Both situations end with people in poverty.Both situations are grossly unfair.
>>520501056>I would leave to go to a smarter country but my parents and my friends are all here and I don't speak any other language.That doesn't stop the millions of illegals which were allowed to walk in you fucking pussy. Just leave if you hate it so much. You won't. Because you're fat and comfortable here regardless of your gripes.
>>520500753>prevents union formation due to the glut of labor.But it's more than just supply and demand pressures, too. You know what else makes it hard for workers to organize and negotiate? Language barriers, divides in cultural values and attitudes, and the fact that a huge chunk of these immigrants simply don't give a shit either way because all they're here to do is gather up remittance money for a few years before leaving and getting replaced by the next up-and-coming wandering laborer doing a work tour.
>>520501263Communism has only ever been successful at either killing people or turning into state-run Capitalism.If you did not believe that, you would have moved to Cuba, but you haven't, because even you know that place is a shithole.
>>520501343>Because you're fat and comfortable hereI assure you I'm neither.
>>520501056>I'm too elite for this foolish USA>My loquaciousness is the envy of every redditor and I know words you're forced to look up.>Leave the country? I cannot, my parents won't let me and I am too bereft of intellect to learn a second language.Leftists talk like this in everyday conversation, or fall short of it so they just invoke Idiocracy over and over again and wonder why every American is learning to hate them more than the myth of the omnipresent omnipotent billionaire.
>>520501335>Both situations end with people in poverty.Okay, but it's not theft or the forceful redistribution of wealth.If you want to criticize Amazon, go ahead. I'll join you and shit ln Google, but don't try to act like it's the same thing as how Communism literally operated as some kind of pathetic "no u" attempt.
>>520501140>I HATE Jews!>I LOVE the American people and want what's best for them! Who cares about the opinions of Jew bankers?>Continues to repeat the lies of Jews who suppressed unions, artificially depressed wages, and murdered white men that stood up to them/pol/ is so psyopped that they'll look at the labor movements of the 20s and 30s and say "yes the Jews were right to murder those coal miners with planes they borrowed from the government".
>>520501360>state-run CapitalismCommunism is defined as worker control of the means of production.If you believe that workers are the state (which should be true in any reasonably democratic country), then state-run industry is communism.
>>520501464Redditnigger please die
>>520494656Just post the examples bud. Maybe even a per reviewed study
>>520501445>>520501445>Okay, but it's not theft or the forceful redistribution of wealth.It's redistribution of wealth (from the poor to the rich) supported by the implicit threat of force.
>>520501263>anon can't accept history isn't linear progress like his history professors told him You're living in the Digital Age Collapse retard. Any system regardless is doomed to fail. You just got picked to live in the time of history when this one fails. It is nothing to cry about.
>>520499992>Education in this country is truly shit.It's also run from bookend to bookend by lefties. So, make of that what you will... to most of us it's self evident... but I'm certain you'll come to a different conclusion with your mastery of mental gymnastics.
>>520501429>>520497892I don't think you can.
>>520501335Amazon directly benefits me by making my dollar go farther. This is in fact different than being forced to dig potatoes with a pick or being lined up against the wall for disagreements with Czar of xxx.If you care so much about small businesses, leave your house, and go transact with them. You won't because this is the same style of hypocrisy that leftists always run their methane filled mouths on, the other being about charity for this that and the other person that they only ever want to pay with other people's money until it runs out.
>>520494413>complaining about billionaires in WiemarIn reality your "billionaires" are mere millionaires after adjusting for inflation, if you actually cared you would be be clamoring for an end to government deficit spending. We can talk about where or how rich people get taxed when you stop congress from gambling with our tax dollars. End foreign aid first, it shouldn't exist anyway and then end immigration, you can't help people when you can't even take care of yourself. Unions are cancer, they weren't supposed to grant endless wage increases, those faggots are no better than congress voting for there own increases.>>520494413This is true but what's also true is that any time a Republican says "no new taxes" they immediately tax you anyway.
>>520501603>It's also run from bookend to bookend by leftiesYou're quite wrong about this.Private philanthropy by billionaires has been dictating educational policy since the early 1900s.They endow university professorships, which then filters down to primary and secondary education.
>>520501603"Mississippi Miracle">taught people how to spell Mississippi finally (actually went from one of the lowest scoring states to one of the highest in education)How?Dumping decades of lowering the bar leftist policies forced upon them and started failing students again.
>>520501480>If you believe that workers are the stateOkay, but I don't. In a communist nation, logistics will force the state will transition to a seperate administrative authority to the workforce and, from there, an oppressive regimen. Despite what you call them and how they treat their labor class, China will act the same as a capitalist nation on the global stage while the state sits back and approves privately-owned companies like Alibaba.Sidenote: "If" is an absolutely retarded word to predicate an argument on.
>>520501561>supported by the implicit threat of force.Where ever did Amazon threaten their competitors with violence you dumb faggot?
>>520501699>Amazon directly benefits me by making my dollar go fartherThat would be the factories in China (a Marxist-Leninist state) making the goods that Amazon sells.
>>520500592Why are you here then?They sound great.
>>520501356Yep. Go look up the leaked anti-union documents from Whole Foods, an Amazon subsidiary. They outright state that half the reason they push for DEI and multiculturism is its suppressant effect on the formation of unions. They know racial disharmony pisses people off and distracts them from being mad at their bosses.
>>520494593You don't think we should take all their money which is in almost all in stocks anyways
>>520501985Not their competitors...Their employees:https://inthesetimes.com/article/arrested-amazon-strike-nypd
>>520501903>Private philanthropy by billionaires has been dictating educational policy since the early 1900s.Leftist billionaires, yes...>which then filters down to primary and secondary educationI'll give you one thing, "trickle-down education" is a new one...
>>520501903He's quite right about leftist iron grip on education through primarily teacher unions. They didn't spend decades on sneaking in DEI bullshit through Common Core out of the blue. I remember videos when that shit first started rolling out and they had struggle sessions with students in georgia being made to stand up in front of the class and apologize to everyone for being white.Most universities are cover for leftist hedge funds and propaganda centers that put students in a lifetime of debt to fund both too.
>>520501828>Unions are cancer, they weren't supposed to grant endless wage increasesThey literally are you fucking retard. Wage increases exist to match inflation and are decided by an agreement between the union and company every few years. Companies have no issue paying them because inflation also inflates their profits. You're so fucking uninformed on how the economy works that it's insane.
>>520502151Past maybe 3rd grade, teachers actually have very little say over what they teach.Curriculum is usually set for them.Leftist teachers may sneak in little tidbits, but the textbooks are chosen by state regulatory boards, usually appointed by politicians bought and paid for by the rich.
>>520501995Anybody who think china is a Marxist state is retarded
>>520502221>unions would rather bandaid a problem than use their collective clout to get government to cease deficit spending>causing more inflation on top of inflationYou're a special kind of retard, ain't ya?
>>520502144There's no such thing as a left or right billionaire, retard. They fund both sides and then cozy up to whoever wins by saying "Look! I gave you money! Now listen to me, I have a really good deal!" because they're a globalist class of parasites who do not care about their host nation and will just leave once they've sucked it dry. You think Bezos won't hop on a plane and move to Ireland when the US goes to shit because of things HE did to it?
>>520502086So let me get this straight, your argument is bouncing from "Amazon literally steals as Communism does," to "Well, no, they don't, they absorb small businesses, but then they use threats of violence!" and now to "Well, they called the state to enforce their business against a riot full of people who wanted to be absorbed by their company."Do I have that right?
>>520501995Sounds like you should be all for tariffs and encouraging factories in the USA to compete again then.However we know when it comes to actual work, we'll get pic related from the reddit "proletariat".
>>520502575Nice strawman.I've been working continuously since age 17.>>520502526Yes, using the cops as strikebreakers is indeed force.
>>520502417Inflation is a non-issue as long as it is constant and predictable, retard. A 2% inflation rate makes loans viable and prevents the stagnant accumulation of wealth, requiring that people keep reinvesting into the economy to prevent a slow loss of value. You'd know that if you did literally any research whatsoever into the topic before opening your faggot mouth.
>>520497144>There's fucking plastic in your blood. Most plastics haven't even existed for 100 years.Why are you blaming billionaires for plastic?Do you realize how deranged you sound acting like plastic was some kind of nefarious billionaire plot and not a genuine miracle invention pursued with the best of intentions that our entire modern society relies upon but actually turned out to be a devil's bargain just like every other technological advancement.
>>520494280>picNo there are pajeets form india who making even less.
>>520502736inflations is the only thing that allows profitloss of value should be the name of the gameevery bit of production should reduce prices and supply increases in a zero sum exchange of productionthere should be no leverage gained through workonly the increase of the quality of life through consumption
>>520502736>as long as it is constant and predictableIt isn't though. Retard. Why are you defending a government spending more than it earns in taxes and investment returns? Nevermind tall enough, you are too goddamned stupid for this ride.
>>520499838When have democrats ever raised taxes on only the rich? Their arguments are always conceptual while their actions are exactly why we oppose their bullshit
>>520494280Everyone on the left who wants open borders and mass immigration is tacitly working on behalf of the billionaire class.It's quite amazing how easy it is to mass indoctrinate the masses and have them jump through hoops like cattle.
>>520497144>There's fucking plastic in your blood. Most plastics haven't even existed for 100 years.Russians invented BPA like 150+ years ago bud
>>520502699...So just to abridge, you're now complaining that the state's goons are enforcing production being carried out at the expense of the workers.
>>520494280you dont get it, the billionaires and their chronies are the only reason they live.
>>520494280>Not even libertarians because many rich people are anti-libertarian.That's not why we're anti-billionaire. At least not why I'm not. We're not opposed to people becoming wealthy, but we are opposed to government intervention in the economy, and the current crop of billionaires all are married at the hip to the government. Without inflation they'd all be multi millionaires at most anyway.>>520499992>Massive subsidies for Tesla is free market capitalismThat's a lefty belief though. Lefties claim that government subsidized megacorporate monopolies are late stage capitalism. Some on the right believe that too, but the left/right spectrum is a retarded way to think about political ideologies anyway.>>520501903>Private philanthropy by billionaires has been dictating educational policy since the early 1900s.The same billionaires who get fuckloads of money from the government and who donate to get people to support the government giving them more money? The private philanthropy is another vector for government money to be funneled into universities through middle men, not people who made their money on the free market giving their money to universities.
>>520494789Not my kids not my problem
>>520502736Keynesians like you should be raped to death by giraffes. Inflation prevents saving and leads to resources never being freed up for growth by reductions in consumption. You think the supply side of the economy requires no resources and all scarcity is in demand. >>520502969profit is when you are able to buy more with what someone pays for your work than what you paid to do it. Profit is completely possible in a hard money economy, it just would look different. It'd reflect the value you added through your labor.
>>520494789>Niggers playing chicken with total destitution knowing that the state WILL ALWAYS intervene before they have to live in poverty>They get food for free while you pay $650 per person per month for basic meals>$5 loaves of bread>$8 eggs>Shrinkflation to the point of absurdity >Property taxes going up 30%>States trying to figure out how to tax unrealized gains in your retirement accounts >Building section 8 apartments just to house the flood of brown people >Lumber costs $20 per sheet of plywood>Bottom tier new cars are $40k with 10% interest loans>Houses cost $500k and interest rates are 8%>Childcare is $1800/mo per child if your wife has to work>Niggers get it for free>If you lose your job, you're unemployed for 7 months and have to resort to Uber Eats>But all you're really complaining about is free lunches (your kid pays though)
>>520494789>take half my paycheck to pay for dogshit fighter jets and anti-missile systems to make Israel think they can fuck with Iran with impunity>inflate the money supply so I can't even save the rest>Oh fuck I'm poor now. Corporate greed is to blame, I need to vote for more taxes!
>>520505778>half my paycheckThat's not the tax rate>fighter jetsA product of corporate greed.>inflationPrices are increases above money printing, this is profit motive driven. Stocks need higher profits from quarter to quarter to be worth anything meaning prices need to go up to support that.>Oh fuck I'm poor now.You know about Blackrock and private equity firms, right? You know "you will own nothing and you will be happy" is messaging from the private sector. WEF represents private interests.
>>520499992When leftists support all of those things, then they have become part of leftism. >>520500037>>520500037
>>520494413and all of it amounted to a drop in the bucket compared to Trumps COVID years, the damage of which we still havent fully felt. thats bidenomics, trump's 2nd term also has been in holding back that dam of inevitable inflation. the tariffs provided a great excuse to bump up the cost of everything. theyll invent more reasons, because the economy is fake and nothing just happens organically because theres no non-jewish owned big businesses left. and jews dont need your money or sales or profits, they can just influx themselves with infinite amounts of money themselves while mom and pop have to work for it.
Reminder right wing parties are still shilling trickle down sponsored by the ones like Tatcher and Reagan with the failure pointed by his Reaganomics.>>>> Key points on why trickle-down economics doesn't work:>>>> Policies that favor tax cuts and benefits primarily for the wealthiest typically don't translate into a significant increase in productive investment or massive job creation.>>>> Instead of trickling down, wealth tends to concentrate in the upper echelons, increasing economic inequality and limiting consumption growth for the majority.>>>> Empirical studies show that periods with trickle-down policies fail to achieve sustained improvements in the real economy for the middle and lower classes.>>>> In contrast, policies that directly stimulate the working and middle classes tend to generate higher domestic consumption, economic growth, and poverty reduction.
