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Even if they manage to finally afford one it has to be a small cuck car. Why?
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>>520507489
Jews
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>>520507489
They don't even have roads.
What they call a street is a sidewalk.
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Get this. Europeans brag about riding a bus. Thats how poor they are.
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>>520507675
Why do Americans need cars like this? So ridiculous, oversized and tacky
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>>520507489
Environment means that we like small cars and small roads and it's the future

Actually we would prefer to be forced to live in 15 minutes cities.
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>>520507598
This guy gets it
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>>520507489
Are you allowed out of your corona cuck cage yet?
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>>520507752
>Tacky
Not as tacky as a bus, captain
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>>520507752
compensation for a small dick
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insecure niggas be like "my car is big like my penis trust me bro"
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>>520507489
why ? I've always had alpha europoor cars. For example I had a big Fiat Marea 20 years ago and I could stare with an air of superiority to the crowd of Fiestas and Twingos around me. It felt so good you couldn't believe it.
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>>520507489
If by kiss the boys she means suckle on her funbags, then I'm a pedophile.
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>>520508030
Is that what they say about the size of the bus they ride on too?
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>>520507489
Imagine being white and making fun of europeans, that is if you even are white and not some spic shitskin
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54k USD
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For consumer purposes, a larger displacement naturally aspirated overhead valve motor with no vvt will ALWAYS be superior to a smol displacement turbo'd dohc vvt'd motor.

This is simply a mechanical reality most euros are in denial about unfortunately.
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>>520508196
You could get a 2023 F250 with sub 30k miles and a 7.3 v8 for less than that.
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>>520507489
Wtf are you even talking about? Retarded jeet you haven’t got a clue
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>>520507752
No, Americans and Canadians have upgraded from that because we thought that wasn't enough. We drive around in this now
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>>520508196
Denmark is infinitely better to live in than the US by almost every metric but yeah cars are expensive there
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>>520507675
Das rite
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>>520507489
It's been proved - better the sports car, smaller the cock
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>>520508259
why would anyone want to buy a truck designed for retarded wigger bros?
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>>520507489
I love titties.

Also you are wrong. Outside of cities, car ownership is higher in europooer and bongland than in faggot wastelands like the US and Oz.

Fat ford truck fucks don't know about the hollow ways. They don't understand the roads go through the land, they aren't cut into it.

I drive to work over a path that was trod down by my ancestors.
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>>520507489
Owning a big car in most urban areas in Europe is absolutely retarded. It's just not practical. The roads are tiny gas is expensive as fuck.
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>>520508441
All I'm really concerned about is how easy it is for me to live in the country on my own healthy woodland property and be left alone to the greatest degree possible.

That's literally the only consideration for me as a quality of life matter.
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>>520507752
That's based though, the average coupe should be like this
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>>520508565
Sweden and Norway are good for that
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>>520508209
Meh they build 1000hp motors out of 30yr old VW 2.0L's. Its not 1968 anymore grandpa.
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>>520508557
they still do it, though. every karen and every kareem has a big SUV.
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i have a car, its a red one
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>>520508503
It's a pretty standard work truck.

To answer your question- the Ford 7.3 and 6.8 gas burners are the ONLY somewhat decent motors being made in the world today. No EGR. No turbo. Pushrod V8. The only issue is the cam timing but compared to any other motor it is simply superior. Of course however this is all meaningless to you because you got the mind if a woman and the only thing you can understand is "what does this vehicle say about me."
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>>520507489
Is she wearing a mask or is she a Korean who had surgery to look white
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>>520508196
Thats really expensive for that car. It's much cheaper in the US
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>>520507752
We are a lot more likely to have things to move with them. Not really the nigger wheel version you posted but still. Being richer has its pluses.
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>>520508679
>"what does this vehicle say about me."
seems to be the motive behind half of truck purchases
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>>520508611
Well see as a lover of the woodlands I dont much like the concept of living in a place that only has about 10 native tree species and is a frozen wasteland half thr year kek.
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>>520507489
Cars fucking suck. Oh jolly jeepers cops, slavery to the petro camel jockey, mechanical issues galore, insurance, and other assholes on the road. No. Call me whatever you want I'll bike and walk to get what I need. It works from my house in my small town.
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>>520508618
See retard I am not trying to build a race car kek. I want a robust repairable simple motor with adequate power.
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>>520508792
>being richer = having more stuff
retarded
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>>520508873
And you are no better than they it seems.

What dont you understand about a naturally aspirated large displacement pushrod motor with no vvt and no egr being mechanically superior to the alternative?
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>>520508618
I’m telling you it’s useless arguing with this dude, he comes in every vehicle thread and makes the same boasts about how everything is bad and his shitbox sbc is the pinnacle despite renting vehicles when he takes trips.
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Is this the traditional media realizing that softcore porn is the only way it can compete with instagram etc?
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>>520509009
Yes
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>>520509143
you’re black
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>>520509087
Yes you pretty much have the gist of it. It is true that sbc is probably the superior motor ever made though. But that is neither here nor there.

But I have yet to hear a rational argument FOR vvt, egr, turbos etc. in any thread I "shit up" other than some hot wheel race car cope.
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>>520507489
Is that Kylie Minogue? Thought she was old now.
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>>520508923
I don't have a car either but it's definitely a big priority if I can ever afford it. Using a car for commuting is cucked but having a car for weekend excursions is a luxury. There's no other way to get out into the mountains.
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Why come stupid abbo niggers like you care so much about Europe?
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>>520509248
We have had this conversation multiple times. There are points for all of them but you won’t hear it. Imagine not seeing the benefit of something as simple as a turbo/FI.
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>>520509194
I’m here to increase my value for family. Land and equipment is quite nice in America.
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>>520508484
Koenigsegg bros...
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its ridiculously expensive here
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>>520509415
Adding components and points of failure when the same thing could be achieved by a very slight increase in naturally aspirated displacement is simply not logical.

Complexity is only justified when the gains in performance outweigh the increased cost and difficulty to repair etc. Marginal gains in efficiency and emissions mandated by bureacrats is NOT a valid tradeoff that justify the complexity and difficulty to repair and expense of these systems. If it WERE better it would not need to be mandated.
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Nigger level thread.
We have some of the most fucked up traffic jams here in europe, because there are too many cars. I think only asian shitholes beat us at traffic jams.
What we don't have is a majority of trucks on the roads, but a more diverse vehicle "ecosystem". I myself prefer wagons. Trucks and SUVs are for cucks as far as I'm concerned.
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>>520507489
i remember that time she got mogged by wonyoung
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>>520509577
Things like turbos punch so far above there weight class you are sort of stupid not to add them. All these things have been around for what 80+ years and it’s pretty well figured out.
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>>520508259
Lmao. Where? There are no deals on trucks anymore.
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>>520509802
The bed simply has a much better profile of use cases. You can haul messy things. Soil, hay, dead animals, gas cans, durty tools, brush, etc. It can be used as a mobile scaffold to stand on. It can serve as a mobile work bench. A mobile cleaning station. It can simply haul more like whole bales of fence wire etc.

I don't hate SUVs and wagons but I simply think they dont have the same utility as a bed. I have no real fashion etc. association with these vehicles I'm just trying to look at it as objectively as possible.
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>>520507489
It's not that they can't afford cars. It's moreso that our cities are walkable and we have efficient public transport, so people choose not to drive because it's cheaper in the long run.
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>>520510027
The reason so many cars have a turbo today is because you can squeeze more performance from a smaller displacement motor and thereby stand a better chance of meeting emissions standards set by your governments.

The alternative is a slightly bigger, more robust, more simple slighly less efficient motor. However thanks to clowns 1.0L turbo'd motors hopped up and being ragged for every last hp have been normalized to the great pleasure of our bureaucrats and eco legislators.
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>>520510013
hahahaha holy shit
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>>520507752
Trucks, or "hillbilly Cadillacs", are a derivative of rural farming culture. You can't haul a cow or a bail of hay in a priest.

These vehicles are not very suited to dense cities.

It is the flaw of democracy that it tries to impose the same conditions on everyone regardless of the differences in curcumstances.
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>>520510110
I won't be buying a new truck until my old trucks are literally impossible to repair. I dont see that on the horizon.

However a good friend of mine just got a 2023 with 6.8 with about 24k miles. He paid right at 42k.
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>>520510302
Prius*
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>>520509009
Uh yeah. By definition. Even if it's just more money, that's more "stuff". I fluctuate between feeling bad for brits losing their country, then talking to them and realizing they're just getting what they deserve.
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>>520510302
No. That's the flaw of urbanoids. They simply cannot imagine a world should exist that does not cater to their narrow city-minds.
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>>520510238
I don’t think there is any difference is motor robustness between a NA motor and turbo motor nowadays. Even going back FI motors got better parts and lasted longer.
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>>520507752
Conspicuous consumption. It's not exclusive to America, but since it's most common among people with low intelligence, no humility, and no class it reaches its fullest flower there.
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>>520507752
Small pp
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>>520507675
When I lived in England I was talking to this teenager who had just turned 16.
I asked her when she was going to take her road test for her drivers license.
She looked at me like I was nuts and said why? I have the bus!
The look of shocked disgust on my face was palpable.
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>>520510464
Larger displacement, less components will always be better than smaller displacement and more components and more HP being squeezed out of less robust systems.

Let's not be obtuse about WHY every car has a turbo on it. You arent putting turbos on V8s to get better performance above and beyond. You are slapping turbos on 2.0l motors to comply with emissions lol.
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>>520507489
“Kiss them, boys”
“Make them cry”
Okay, if you say so.
>blue and red flashing lights
It says it right there, right on her tits. It says “kiss them”.
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>>520508574
Pure class. They handle like shit and get about 8 mpg, but they have style.
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>>520509802
Don't lie, you prefer trains because they present the best opportunity to steal luggage. Ain't that right, gypsy?
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>Why cant europeans have cars
>Look through window
>See hundreds of cars
>See that OP is a anglokike
Now it makes sense
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>>520510594
burger moment
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>>520509493
>Koenigsegg
Penis practically inverted
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>>520510680
>American literacy
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>>520507489
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>>520507489
>non-oldworlders cannot comprehend living in cities that are >1000 years old
I'm sure the Frankish urban city planners just wanted to cuck us or something
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>>520507489
in cities cars are pointless. its just traffic. its much quicker to walk or to take a bus. but in the countryside everyone has a car.
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>>520510782
>I can ride the bus with pakis!
the sweet 16 dream of a british girl, ah yes.
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>>520509493
My car - MASSIVE cock
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>>520510650
That’s your opinion

Why wouldn’t you it’s one of the freest power adders you can do. Doesn’t have to be a lot either to reap the benefits.
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>>520507752
for me its the ford raptor
its so sexy
i would love to drive it full speed into degenerate commies in this thing
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>>520510991
>Pfft...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1964_Peel_P50_Blue.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
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>>520507489
I’ll stick with my classic.
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>>520508923
This is a catch pen for cattle. Were still setting it up, going to finish soon. You can't haul this bitch with a bike and you see what I had to drive through to get it out here and this is nothing, the field at the other farm is practically all mud so you need 4wd to get through it. That's why the anti-car bullshit will never take off in rural areas, we actually need trucks with a lot of power.
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>>520510734
I have not been on a train in a decade.
Catalytic converter on cars are more valuable and safer prey than anything I could find on a train anyway.
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>>520510959
what?
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>>520510650
Also I find it humorous that you select one aspect of the modern motor (turbos) and try to ignore EGR, VVT, DOHC etc.

Like if you just ignore them they will go away. In reality they are just more examples of the same sickness as the shift to turbos. More complexity. Less robustness... all in the name of govt efficiency regs and people like you are happy to have the costs shifted onto you.
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>>520511271
Kek way to steer into the joke, Anonscu! You're alright.
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>>520511045
Because you can achieve the same increases in power with slight increases in displacement with none of the shortcomings of complexity and cost of it.

Let me say this again for you- you arent putting turbos on to get more power alone. You are putting turbos on so you can make due with a smaller motor and thereby comply with your govts eco preferences.
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>>520511118
I am impressed
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>>520511362
Sorry meant for
>>520511045
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>>520510991
fat bloated pos
i catch myself eyeing tiny old clios, golfs, etc and i just feel sad
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>>520511808
Don't care - I have nothing to prove
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>>520507489
>How come Europeans can't have cars?
i'll tell you why, at least for france
first getting your permit cost an arm and a leg, require a lot of hours of practice, and said hours often have to be booked in advance because there's an artificial scarcity, and there's a permit school mafia that will make everything they can to make you fail so they can milk more money our of you
then our cities are for the most part not car compatible, especially at our population density
and lastly a decent car will also cost more than it should, without mentioning the mandatory insurance
in short, it's a long, costly, and annoying process just to have a a money sink (car), which most people don't need since we have walkable cities with for the most part decent public transport
it's fucked up to the point where, for the price of a permit in france, i could fly to an US state (out of season) for about two weeks vacations, pass my US permit, and fly back, and have the said permit converted would probably go faster too
now the car industry shifted to appealing to 60yo and adapted their prices to these already settled people with more expendable income, thus excluding younger people from car ownership
basically it's like the housing crisis but for cars
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>>520507489

serfdom is ingrained into their dna. They live to be fodder and meat shields for their aristocratic superiors.
The idea of liberty and autonomy angers and frightens the euroserf mind.
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>>520511362
EGR has its place with controlling helping control cylinder temperatures when implemented correctly.
VVT is just standard cause it’s so easy and helpful to move power bands up or down to increase efficiency and drivability.
DOHC is about the same.
>>520511530
I don’t feel like having to deal with having a 10-14 liter na motor just to try and come close to a FI truck motor. You can stick with being a Luddite but the rest of the world is moving on to better things.
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>>520511210
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>>520507489
How come she's not sitting on my face? Because of NIGGERS AND JEWS
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>>520507489
Most europeans even in goytherlands own 1-2 cars bro
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>>520511099
The tron lights are a bit much.
Silhouette is nice though.
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>>520512126
unless you live in a remote location, you're as much an on-rails NPC as anyone else
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>>520512215
Nice.
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>>520507752
>be american socialsits
>want to ban cars in the 70's
>make it so that actually usable utility vehicles need 25 miles to the gallon
>small cars can do this but utility vehicles with larger engines can't
>regulations created by socialists say "if a vehicle is over x size they no longer need to be as fuel efficient"
>SUVs are created which are bigger than trucks and get 20 mpg
>all the trucks are automatically huge so they don't have to meet fuel efficiency/emissions standards which aren't actually possible to meet
socialism
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>>520508611
Not when it's time to pay taxes or make money. All the smart Swedes and Norwegians moved to the Midwest US generations ago.
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>>520507489
if she's Down, I'm down if you know what I mean ; )
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>>520507489
Owning things is considered "bad" in Europe.
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>>520512108
Sucks to live in a shithole I guess.
Here in robmania, it's like €1k to get it, including all lessons. Then during exams, which you take with a cop next to you, there are cameras filming the road and inside the car to make sure cops don't do shady shit.
Once you eventually take it, if you're not retarded because driving is easy, you can just buy a decent used car for less than €5k, which if you want you could maintain yourself and gain some valuable mechanincal knowledge.
Insurance even for a beginner are less than €500 per year and taxes are dirt cheap if your engine is Pepsi bottle sized.
>b-but mug poorfag used car lmao
One must be retarded to pay full price for a new modern trash heap that will break during warranty and you'll have to waste money on maintenance anyway.
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>>520512133
It's just pure dishonesty with you at every turn it makes it very hard to pretend we are having a disagreement in good faith.

1. Modern EGRs arent like the glorified PCV EGRs of the 90s. These modern EGRs are meant to rebreathe dirty warm air so as to further comply with eco initiatives of your government overlords and have you pay for it. One of the primary needs of a motor is clean cool air. It's literally fundamental and yiu woukd sacrifice this and delude yourself into thinking it is a good thing to rebreathe it's own dirty air?? Get a grip it's isnt really up for debate. It's dishonest to pretend modern motors are using these systems to regulate temps when they are openly being used to comply with emissions regs.

2. VVT offer very marginal performance advantages for no other reason than maximizing efficiency to comply with govt regulation. Of all the systems on a motor prone to cause catastrophic failure, timing may be in the top three. And you think it is sensible to add a timing system on top of your timing system? More chains belts. More bearings, more everything. VVT alone adds at least 100 new points of failure and then it is DOUBLED on a dual cam system. It's patently insane from any rational mechanical perspective.

2. Also who said anything ahout 10.0 liter motors?? Don't be melodramatic it makes it hard to pretend we are arguing in good faith here. How about just a solid six liter motor kek? Why the need to be so disingenuous to make your point?

Also luddite would be a fair criticism if these "advancements" had been adopted without being mandated by bureaucrats kek. Sometimes complexity is worth the trouble to get more performance. Sometimes it is not. Advancement is not sacrificing simplicity, repairability, and reason because a bureacrat told you to. It's only advancement when the utility provided outweighs the costs.
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>>520511284
Jfc. You don't even have a response to that.
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>>520507489
Why should i get some expensive car that deteriorates in value way too fast? Thats what turks do
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>>520507489
Why would I buy a big car? Explain it to me in a way in which you don't sound like a nigger saying muh bigga bettah
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>>520512682
>Then during exams, which you take with a cop next to you, there are cameras filming the road and inside the car to make sure cops don't do shady shit.
damn you guys do sometimes have good shit
your country still is a corrupt shithole, but that is nice
should be standard practice everywhere
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>>520512909
Size is not a major factor. I like big cars and I can see the appeal of small cars.

Having a small car isn't an excuse to have a piece of junk motor.
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>>520512909
If you seriously expect the 1pbtid spammer OP to explain something to you then you definitely don't need a big car. Or a car at all. You may hurt yourself or others.
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>>520512720
As I said earlier there is no point in arguing with you are you believe your own fantasy. Even if gov intervention wasn’t a thing these motors would still be made this way as they are just technological advancement of ICE. Should we go back to steam since some people see that’s even simpler and they don’t see the costs?
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>>520512108
>>520512682
Holy fuck this is what happens when you let them take your firearms. Europeans are taxed into oblivion, can't actually enjoy life, and they have to deal with it.
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>>520507757
You fags can't even enjoy the environment you are so hell-bent on saving. How are you gonna get there? Walk?
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>>520511133
What about the airbag ?
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I have three
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>>520508574
you can’t drive that in 70% of italian cities
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>>520513122
>Holy fuck this is what happens when you let them take your firearms.
yeah that was a mistake, and it's pretty recent too, it was post war
we're better off in other ways tho, but yeah house and car ownership is fucked up
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>>520513092
as an outside observer of your conversation I'd just like to interject with the observation that you seem like a colossal faggot
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>>520513092
We never have had a good faith argument as I explained in my last post. If government had not mandated these changes EGR, cylinder deactivation, and VVT/VCT would be a failed experiment lost to the large scrap heap of automotive experimentation that did not take.

DOHC would probably still persist for various arguably legitimate (but ultimately wrong) reasonings.

Turbos would persist as performance upgrades but would not dominate the consumer market without the the emissions/efficiency mandates applying pressure to downsize the displacement of motors.
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>>520513122
How much to you pay to keep your car running a year? Excluding maintenance, just taxes?
I get to around €300 a year in total, insurance and taxes, as by now I'm 32, driving ever since it was legal for me, and have been in exactly 0 accidents.
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>>520513288
Thank you for your input I’m just tired and don’t feel like typing pages calling him wrong.
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>>520507489
Fiat Panda is the best car in existence. And I mean the original Fiat panda.
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>>520507752
how could 5'8 men and 5'4 women shop at target without one?
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>>520507489
we got trains we don't need cars, retarded faggot
also do you call faggotry vauxhauls and redneck small picksups "cars" faggy ?
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So they don't get fat
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>>520508346
A beautiful gift for your local Imam.
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>>520513402
A lot of them still would be cause they are advancement of ICE. But again that’s your opinion. People want more than 180hp and 9mpg even if they lose 10% lifespan.
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>>520507823

Yup, this man has it figured.
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>>520508792
this
2 americans in a car is above the 2.5 tons weight limit on most of our roads
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>>520512234
She will look great in a burka.
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>>520508923
what out bro you're gonna get yourself arrested or shot
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>>520513419
My tag fees are mostly paid on the front end and are almost nonexistent. In the eyes of my local government my vehicles are not seen as particularly valuable to begin with kek. Insurance is negligible for the same reason and is lumped into a farm policy.

My largest expense is miscellaneous repairs. Front end components. Sensors here and there. Hubs etc. However I could replace my entire motor and trans every five years and still pay a fraction of what someone with a newer vehicle would pay in payments/tag fees etc.
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>>520513526
>We got trains we don't need cars
You would if you were hauling around shit like this. >>520511210
That's what I'm saying, anyone on the anti-car bullshit just outs themselves as someone who knows nothing about how life is in rural areas. I guarantee there's people in your country that need vehicles too.
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>>520513419
Depends entirely on the car you drive. If you drive a piece of shit taxes and insurance are cheaper. Car costs more than Romania but getting your license is not as expensive as you described.
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>>520513601
Complexity is only advancement if gains in performance outweigh the costs (complexity, repairability, robustness, monetary costs etc.).

Sometimes new systems replace old systems for legitimate reasons- this is natural. However you dont get to declare these boondoggles "advancement" merely because some bureaucrats essentially mandated or pressured their adoption or because some manufacturer decided a financing model could be milked by passing complexity/costs to the consumer.
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>>520514023
And we will never come to agreement on it. Myself and most people have no issue with the advancement. If you were talking 40 years ago when rudimentary engines were choked by gov you might have a point but nowadays there are almost zero downsides to these technologies.
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>>520514023
For example- I have no issue with fuel injection or even sensors (within reason). There are very real advantages that can be managed and arguably outweigh a more simple system. I have no problem with HEI. It is better. ABS is fine. Transmission overdrive is a good advancement.

However VVT? modern EGR? Smol displacement turbos? CVT? Don't ever compare that to DI kek. They have no legitimate advantages except for emissions and efficiency and these dont even remotely outweigh the costs.
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>>520508346
>10 mile range
Naaaw I'll pass
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>>520514286
>zero downsides
Are you insane honestly? I mean have you ever even worked on a motor with VVT?? It looks like a goddam bad sci-fi movie prop. Have you ever experienced timing problems and wish to excacerabte the issue by a factor of 10x? Have you ever even opened up a new transmission and looked inside?? It's laughable. Do you honestly think in your tiny mind that it is not a disadvantage to have to wait for the factory to send a sealed unit back to you for half your engine components because even mechanics can't work on them? If there were no disadvantages would there be a market for people to buy new vehicles and then spend 10k to DELETE new systems kek?

You're almost in clinical denial.
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>>520514552
Again believe what you want but even the shittiest box of shibox with all these negatives is lasting longer than a lot of older vehicles. Nowhere near as bad as fearmongers like you try to say.
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>>520514756
None of this post is a legitimate point at all. It is literal phone-it-in tier cope. Anecdotal. Tiny minded, textbook denial and delusion. No argument at all, no interest in reasoning with one another.

Just like arguing with a woman honestly. Let me guess you bought a car with EGR, DOHC, VVT - the works- and you are tied to your decision? Many such cases.
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>>520514940
I have several cars of varying type from new to old and I can’t find fault in these “horrible” technologies that are obviously here to rob us of something or other. TREMBLE IN FEAR AT A DOHC WITH VARIABLE TIMING!!!!!
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>>520515280
How much per month is the bread subscription?
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>>520515280
Motors I am currently running: 400sbc, 5.7 Vortec, Perkins 354.a6, Perkins 318.4.

Notice I stopped with the LS. That was the last gasp of design reason. There are pros and cons with vortec. There are pros and cons with LS. I'm not bound to some period like the Amish. But the advancements have to be reasonable tradeoffs not complexity for sake of complexity or govt regs.
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>>520515472
Bout tree fiddy
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>>520508009
or stature in general
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>>520507752
Fragile masculinity of the impotent american men. They don't even use those trucks for transport, just to show off.
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>>520508484
Anecdotally not true because my benis is 4.5" and I have 0 interest in expensive cars. I like the Toyota Prius
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>>520515542
I have an S54, 4 12 valves, 1 6.7 C, 2 6.7 PSDs and one OM617TD. I like all of them but newer of the same class generally is far far better than the old ones. I’m not gay so I run gas for performance cars and diesel for trucks.
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>>520515542
>>520515757
Oh and whatever engines are in the new tractors and the like I don’t really care what they are but they run very well.
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>>520507489
In the UK you have to wait months before you can take your driving test. They want everyone on trains getting stabbed by niggers.
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>>520507752
Do you actually want to know why? I'll tell you why US trucks kept getting bigger: It's emissions standards that faggots adopting the same gay ass models as you eurofags insisted we adopt.
Emissions fines destroyed the midsize truck market
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>>520515757
I can't think of anything gayer than having a car for fun and games (your M series or merc) and not having a SINGLE carbeurated motor. Honestly what are you thinking?

The Cummins is the only decent one you have honestly. My Perkins are 30+ years old and have never been in a shop since the day they left the dealer btw.
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>>520510302
Every middle class suburban male over 35 has a full sized pick up now.
When I lived in the country only farmers had trucks, which were work vehicles and they drove shit box cars to get around and had a nice small suv that only the wife used.
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>>520507489

We can't afford a car, we have to pay 99% of our income to the state. I dream of one day being able to afford an air conditioning unit like the handsome and free people in US of A

Hardest part for me personally is having to live in a gray, ugly commie building under permanently gray sky
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>>520507489
Europeans have small cuck roads and streets, that's why they have small cars.
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>>520516147
Fuck carbs I never want a dedicated fuel leak running anything. Once any of the Cummins die they are just getting new 6.7s cause I really don’t care for the old style as new knocks the pants off them.
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>>520507489
i'm quite happy in my mercedes
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>>520507489
We have horses

https://www.tiktok.com/@observatorantena1/video/7567686412569496854
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>>520507489
Is that sydney sweeney? Doubt shes ever made anyone cry
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>>520507489
Cars produce deadly CO2.
We don't have car ownership rights, IN GERMANY.
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>>520516714
manufactured pre-2008, I guess
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>Americans call europeans poor
>Can't even afford to buy a car with cash

Lmao finance slaves
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>>520508196
I sell cars in the dc area, one of the richest in the world per capita, i think the highest you could pay for a fully loaded cross hybrid right now is around $39k out the door with virginia taxes and fees.

My turkish coworker says it could sell for triple in istanbul. German have the same type of market? Or are the benz and beamers cheap there? Get me hip kameraden
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>>520517082
>We don't have car ownership rights
Who owns the car you drive?
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>>520507752
Shut it, moshe.... your foreskin isn't here.
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>>520517630
We don't drive cars in GERMANY
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>>520507489
I'd love to see you try driving your dick-compensating truck in Paris, or worse yet, Rome.
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>>520516393
>new knocks the pants off them.
This could easily be listed as one of the gayest things I've ever read this year honestly.

But all jokes aside, it doesnt bother you that you have these machines (except for like one of them) that you can basically do so little to work on yourself?
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>>520507598
/thread
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>>520507489
If the Ukrainian chick on the tram was driving a F250 at 70mph ripping through non-whites blasting Limp Bizkit i can assure you she would be alive
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>>520507675
We brag about it here because taking public transport is literally life or death
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>>520518453
I like results and new does best. Not at all cause they don’t break.
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>>520511552
>All bow to the Big Bong Dong
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>>520518340
Then who keeps going full mustang and wrecking all these bmws?
https://youtu.be/JM3B9NZjpjA?si=GWg6SJITjvlegyWh
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>>520507598
fpbp
/thread
/discussion for all time

It's literally the jews.
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>>520518973
The Americans are the worst - dropping $60k+ on trucks they can't afford - and for what?
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>>520507752
In the UK that's a jeet flattening machine.
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>>520507489
Why the fuck should I spend 60k on an oversized truck that will be worth nothing in a few years? Not to mention the insane amount of gas it guzzles. Europeans just don't like to waste money on frivolous things. Being an Amerimutt who's addicted to consoomerism doesn't give you a personality. You're just a cuck to the car industry
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>>520518833
It's purely delusional to think things wont break in some form or fashion lol just think abiut what the machine is doing. There are explosions going on in there it is very complex of course systems will eventually fail and need to be repaired. Let's not be delusional. Now how expensive and hard they are to fix and replace is the dispositive question.

Ultimately, engines and transmission are long term consumables.
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>>520519590
Bout the same price wise in my world for most things since I do things right and just replace things. Last about the same as well or better since sensors make the engine run more optimally.
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>>520520316
Lol oh so if you have one issue you just pull the motor and replace it kek? Everything you've said are just these quip-like oversimplified nonsense statements. Whether a motor has to he replaced all depends on what the issue is and what is required to fix it. Points of catastrophic failure should be minimized. Components should be simplified to the degree it is pragmatic and made robust and simple to replace OR repair.

Also with sensors- it is much more nuanced than that. It all depends on the sensor. Cam, crank, MAP, speed, thermo, oil pressure, are great things and with a rudimentary PCU they can be very useful. even upstream 02, MAF etc. have some value. First wave of the OBDii was good. It quickly became a mess though.. beyond the basic sensor suite they are a boondoggle. Anyways, I dont mind ABS (if it is a later system). I prefer a mechanical transmission with a vacuum overdrive switch though.
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>>520521051
Only issues I have are ones that require pulling motors and redoing them. I will not run with things that “might” be ok as I strive for breakdowns to not be in my vocabulary. If you are gonna do it do it right and don’t half ass it.



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