Well /pol/?
They'd lose even if they were the best at war. Let that sink in.
>>520560106NATO trannies know exactly what they're doing - those Ukrainian conscripts will fight twice as hard and inflict twice as much damage on Russia if they can't retreat.
>>520560430Right now they're surrendering twice as hard.
>If I put a red or black line on the map that means I control itOP is a russoid negress
>>520560106Ukraine still hasn't done a mass conscription. They aren't in total war mode yet
>>520560523>It's still only foreplay.
>>520560106same reason Americans and Israelis are.
>>520560500See you in 2 weeks and 2 cities down, xolxol>>520560523> One more mobilization
>>520560523To the last Ukrainian brother
>>520560500Pick your poison. Here is the most pro Ukraine map available.
Ziggers proclaiming victory since day 1 while suffering over a million casualty against one of the poorest countries in Europe with a military budget comparable to Belgium will never not be funny.
>>520560725Oh yeah it's the ziggers that are upset they invaded.
>>520560812>w-we like not winning wars>q-quick depict me as a chad
Syrski is Russian.
>>520560930Uhuh ziggers are totally losing and are super butthurt about it!
>>520560990ziggs cannot be butthurt as being butthurt implies having human emotions and self-awareness
>only paid shills post in chug nowadays>need to make thread outside containment or noone will see itdo they even pay you still?
>>520560990Remember how prigozhin scammed billions of dollars from the CIA while repositioning wagner to Belaruse and is about to take Kiev?Ironic you're depicting the zaporizhia cossacks as ziggers. Its like watching leftist make memes, lmao.
>>520561086Facts.
>>520561129I don't think you know what irony is my ESL friendo.
>>520561131Topkek Reminds me of /pol/ ukies coping while losing cities
Ukrainian drone murders a family and their doghttps://files.catbox.moe/sa6mrz.mp4remember these are the same people who claim Russians aren't human
Ukraine murders an innocent couple and their doghttps://files.catbox.moe/sa6mrz.mp4remember these are the same people claiming Russians aren't human
>>520561203>the front is still stuck at bakhmut>after 4 years
>>520560467any vids?
>>520561337porkroast status, nafoid?
>>520561378you tell me, but its probably exactly like it was 4 years ago? LOL
>>520561378holding easy by the looks of it
>>520561410your image isnt correct, but its not much better in reality lol
>>520561337Kursk status?
10 years of nafo training and advice
>>520560725>a million casualtyKek
>>520561483delete this
>>520561483kill yourself nafo trash
>>520561483>>520561496>russia is actually LOSING GROUND to the ukieslmao holy shit.
>>520560106they underestimate Russia, have no training, believe in their own delusional gloating, and their commanders have the brilliant strategy of sending more hohols to the meat grinder to trynna hold the lines til the West gives them more gibs, etc
>>520561582> Time (and advances) stopped 2 years ago lol lmao
>>520561483hohol faggot
>>520561337>>520561410>Todayline still at donesknot even touching Dnieper oblastyour today is map is over a year out of date >>520561483all the land russia lost was in 2022since then the only offensives that ukraine launched were the failed Zaporizhzhia offensive which did nothing in 2023and the failed kursk offensive in 2024with no offensives in 2025while russia has been making steady gains along the entire front and has 5 cities being encircled
>>520561582>we never wanted eastern ukraine and crimea anyways
>>520561337Why are you using the same image for over a year shill?
>>520561686>>520561762>>520561765>>520561770>please stop using that image its making me crysounds like a you problem. >4 years later>front still stuck at bakhmutaww geez.
>>520561770Ukraine wins if you stop updating your maps, chud
>>520561770> Why are you using the same image for over a year shill?It was the last time they ever had a semblance of a W
>>520560690no that would be deep state as that map doesn't have the Russian encircled north
>>520561961how bout this one.
>>520561887>If I cut my dick I will be a woman>If I ignore reality Ukraine can still winNAFOids and trannies are one and the same
>>520561770Nafotroons are not very smart. They are just trying to push a narrative.
>>520561582>russia is actually LOSING GROUND to the ukiesIts funny because its true. Rusanimals never regained all that lost ground.
>>520561887>>520562016same oneRussia has take 2000 square miles in the donesk front alone this year
>>520562021Based and accurate vizinho
>>520560106Ukrainians are not even that important here, they just provide physical carriers. Most of the job there is actually the latest NATO efforts. The only things ukrainians can shoot without western supervision is drugs. Pokrovsk is a huge failure, given not a single supply route was in danger and not a single nato refinery attacked outside Ukraine.
>>520560430A full battle load of ammunition, food, and water runs out within thirty six hours after logistical support is cutoff. At least for NATO standard light infantry. >t. Former ZOGnigger
>>520562016modern warfare takes time, but Russia is fully prepared for a prolonged conflict, they have a war economy, they have a huge population to conscript, and they're on the right side of history. so Russia will prevail
>>520562021>>520562090>>520562186>poor russia is actually losing ground to the ukiesohhh noooo, not the super puccia! XD
>>520562183don't worry they're pumping the town full of supplies before it's cutoff
>>520562229This glorious chart doesn’t say where 22 million Ukrainians went lol
>>520562229This is supreme cope polenigger
this war was always just a proxy between China funding russia and USA funding ukraineits a proof that USA cannot win against China anymore, it was trial for eventual takeover of Taiwan and it proved that USA will always get assraped by Chinese its the same reason why they held back israel from attacking iraq, that has chinese backing as well, usa knows they cannot deal with them, same reason why they stopped tariffs etc. China is the real hegemon and the only superpower in the world
>>520562287>>520562271>still stuck at bakhmut
>>520562310Poland always watches out for the next master
Send in the next wave!
>>520562372nigger look at your flag they're your master
>>520562090that's horribly bad. their resupply is that shit they can only attack from major towns
>>520562386> Send in the next wave!literally (You) lmaohttps://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1985616660909232528/video/1
>>520560106Strange cope but OK.
>>520562463Send in the next wave!
>>520562090>>520562404also Battle of Avdiivka was in 2023. Prokrosk Battle already been going for longer than a year.
>>520562344What happened to 22 million Ukrainians? Did they just disappear near Bahmut?
>>520562558whats even funnier:>russia is still stuck at bahkmut
>>520562494The millisecond the next wave gets send in via glorious Azov transportation means or giga spyish helicopters you’ll see the footage of it ;)
How can ukrainians be good at war?Many of their soldiers are still serving since commie time.Its mostly a russian army, only now started to develop some technologies.Real question is, how is russia losign millions to that shitty hohol army? How is russia losing oil refineries back in the Siberia to fucking $200 drones?How are hohols destroying russian strategic bombers? How are they bombing mosquew?How the fuck did hohols take back 70% of what they lost in the first two months? What the fuck are moskals doing?? xDDDDDDDD
>>520562660Send in the next wave!
>>520560106I feel like I've seen this picture posted for at least 2 weeks. so more important question, why is Russia so bad at encirclement?
>>520561483can you tell me how I'm supposed to read that? >russia lost x amount of territorythe map clearly shows russia to be in occupation of ukrainian territory and ukraine not to be in occupation of any russian territory. it looks actually like russia has gained territory and ukraine has lost it. this really leaves me confused. if you're trying to make a point maybe you should parse it better, for example 'russia controls less of ukraine now than they did during the very early stages on the war'. of course this is pretty disingenuous since km2 gained is a very entry level metric for judging success here
>>520562745>I feel like I've seen this picture posted for at least 2 weeks.more like 4 years.
>>520562660you will show us footage of one chopper successfully getting away and no wreckage again? cool
>>520561762>steady gainsat a snails pace kek
>>520561603uncanny picture
>>520561577>>520561703your sons and cousins are dying for stinky and you cheer for the man that sends them
Lmao the absolute mental gymnastics from NAFO in this threadAnother city lost, deal with it
>>520561887>still stuck at bakhmutwhat do you mean? they pushed west and stormed chasov yar. it was a pretty major battle if you were paying attention, the ukrainians got some of their best formations badly chewed up trying to defend that place considering it's operational value
>>520562751look on the left, you can see the total m^2 controlled by russiathey lost a shit ton after the counteroffensive and still havent gained back an equivalent, their gains are just concentrated in the donbas
>>520560106Cossacks are grunts. Strong and brave, but with small brains. Combine that with CIA glowies and you end up with endless waves of suicide charges.
>>520562987Looks like you are very confused on who is attacking and who is defending.Send in the next wave!
>>520562888Pan Syrskyi, we’re out of people
>>520562876>NoOoO the goyim didn't take our bait!!!anti anglo duginists get the car bomb.
>>520563036Send in the next wave!
>>520562558m8 you have to be 18 to post here. the battle of avdeevka concluded in early '24
>>520563035Your leader is a Zionist Kike who has sent a million Ukrainians to die for Israel.
>>520563069Do we draft the mentally disabled?
>>520563128>>520563144Send in the next wave!
>>520563153
>>520562957but they still control a shit load of ukrainian territory and ukraine controls no russian territory? you're making it really confusing. just say 'ukraine regained some of its territory back in 2022' or something simple like that
>>520561533missing wounded dead. dead wounded ratio is now 50 50
>>520563228Whoops, here goes another pidors corpse that will never be exchanged.Have you ever come to you that we just don't pick up pidor corpses?
>>520562930>what do you mean?i mean they are still stuck at bakhmut.
Whoops, looks like pidor bodies got devoured by dogs. No bodies for you, I'm afraid.
>>520560106>Why are Ukrainians so bad at war?Their commander in chief is a Jewish Comedian who takes military advice from his 9 year old son.
>instant seethe gore spamkek
>>520563153multiply this times 39 for usrainian losses
>>520563356Yes, everyone knows that defending side always takes 30 times more loses.Send in the next wave!
>>520560430>those Ukrainian conscripts will fight twice as hard and inflict twice as much damage on Russia if they can't retreat.That's your expectation. In reality they'll just surrender like those Nazis in the basement of Mariupol did.
>>520560106The leadership is jewish, and jews suck at war.
>>520563128so is russia like 3 or 5 milions then because they take 3 times more casualties because of attacking alone, and then being russians always double that in literally every war that they fight
>>520561337It looks to me that Russia has already claimed the land it wants and is now holding on to it.
>>520563271Surely the gore spam will put a stop to the massive Ukrainian casualties.
>>520563487but ukrainians are russians so..
pile must grow!
>>520561770Because it hasn't changed lmaooo what a trannyyou will never be white btw
>>520563281they clearly are not. you are wrong. here's the front near bakhmut
>>520563531Whoops, looks like one less pidor body for exchange.
>>520563532there is really no russians, there are moscovites and then there are colonial steppe niggers.
>>520563592Why do we draft the mentally disabled now, Pan Syrskyi?
>>520563635so is your family moscovites or steppe niggers
>>520563592That's not even combat footage.
>>520563657Send in the next wave!
Notice how the hohol spammer here is mysteriously absent from the front
>>520562183Alexandre ?
>>520563657it seems russia has done that from the start based on their strike ability.
>>520563566but that's not true, here's a timelapse of confirmed territorial changes in donbas as charted by deepstate. keep in mind this is months out of date now so actually the amount of territory the russians have captured is greater
>>520563577>they clearly are not.yes they are. >you are wrong.no im not. >here's the front near bakhmutlet me help you - you zoomed in so close i can see individual trees on your jpeg, let me zoom it out a bit.>pic relatedthere ya go.
>>520563691Whoops, one less pidor body for exchanges.Almost like nobody picks them up. Really makes me think.
>>520563676mongolians who killed lot of russians
>>520563657Did they stutter when they said "to the last Ukrainian" ?
>>520563750Lmao that's the only thing you even bother countering with after two years of straight losses. One city after the next "Just zoom out bro, here's a gore webm"
How many more "last big defensive stronghold" towns until the front finally collapses?
>>520560500>ruzzians are surely lying about their control zone, let's airdrop special forces
>>520563694What’s the answer, Pan Syrskyi? Isn’t Ukraine winning?
>>520563750you can zoom out and show us that russia controls ukrainian territory (a lot of it) and the ukraine controls no russian territory, but that won't change the fact that russia has moved on from bakhmut
>>520563846one city in year is not that much, its like saying loosing 10 men to catch one out house is winning.
>>520563922Send in the next wave!
>>520563729To be fair be probably gets paid to shill.
>>520561204>>520561313Why did you zoom in on the original video? There was a unit insignia in the corner that showed this was done by Russia, but you felt like you could just lie about that on the internet of all places?
>>520560106Picrel might have something to do with it. The real question is, given that Russia has ideal logistics, in terms of being contiguous with Ukraine, and they are advantaged in every way, why did they not literally win in a style like we did against Iraq in the 1st gulf war, and literally take kiev in 3 days, and regime change them. The AFU are out gunned and out manned at every turn. Russia has 10 times+ the economy, to pay contract soldiers/mercs, and several times the population to draw from. Russia invented most of the equipment Ukraine has, at least at the beginning, like it's air craft, and has better versions of each thing, such as updated Mig 29s. Ukraine has just finally this year got it's 1st radar plane this year, they have no strategic bombers, no real navy to speak of. Russia fires effectively unlimited artillery, while the AFU are on small rations of shells. Russia has china turning out things like optical fiber for drones. The list goews on and on.
>>520563922russia hasent pulled out even one encirclement so far.
>>520561483Seems like a loser argument. >"Hehe, you only took over some of us. And we got it some of that some back."Ukraine still has a net loss. Every day the war endures is worse off for Ukraine than anyone else involved. Ukraine is entirely reliant on the ever shifting political winds in the west. If they were to suffer a catastrophic loss, embarrassment, anything along those lines, it'd be a kiss of death for support. Ukraine knows this. It's why they spent months building up their counter-offensive like a fucking Marvel movie, and then magically dropped the issue and haven't even thought about doing anything like that again. This is purely a defensive war from now on, attempting to mitigate negotiation leverage that Russia will have down the line. Neither side will "win", but Russia is going to walk away with much, much more. Pretending otherwise is setting yourself up for disappointment.
>>520563846>>520563929>poor puccia is stuck for 4 years in the same spot while losing 9000 trillion men every month>literally still stuck at bahkmutkinda sad init.
>>520564015The USA committed one million troops to the Gulf War to defeat a CIA asset.
>>520564015Because they are fighting the entire NATO and decided to go for a war of attrition to bleed any possible support out, rather than a quick regime change. You have to be an absolute dunce to not notice how they completely changed their strategy.
>>520564238>Because they are fighting the entire NATOwhoa no way, they are?
>>520563944can't be helped, that whole area is nothing but outhouses.
>>520564238they seem to bleed themselves out while no nato soldiers are lost. russia is depleting ukraine aa but support just keep flowing.
>Coalition bombing raids destroyed Iraqi civilian infrastructure. 11 of Iraq's 20 major power stations and 119 substations were totally destroyed, and a further six major power stations were damaged.[49][50] At the end of the war, electricity production was at four percent of its pre-war levels. Nearly all Iraqi dams, most major pumping stations, and many sewage treatment plants, whether via deliberate bombing or lack of electricity, were rendered non-functional. Telecommunications equipment, port facilities, oil refineries and distribution, railroads and bridges were also destroyed as a result of Coalition bombing effortsLmao nice defensive war.
>>520560812Look at this field of dead Russians to see the truth. Also, the Ukrainians are obviously fighting for their ancestral homeland, and to stop the russians from ethnically cleansing them. What did the moscovites in the ground of picrel die? They would have never even went to Ukraine.https://files.catbox.moe/xpu4lb.mp4>>520560106OP, see herehttps://files.catbox.moe/xpu4lb.mp4Then, realize that russia took the Crimea with effectively 0 casualties. THAT was a masterful performance. THIShttps://files.catbox.moe/xpu4lb.mp4Is a self suicide. It's not impressive. They have several times the personnel Ukraine has.
>>520564152wow, poles are fucking stupid as shit. no wonder your country's whole history is just getting tag team raped by germany and russia
>>520560106American weapons, like their cars and women, are shit.
>>520564364Are you trying to lie to yourself to calm yourself down, or you are trying to lie to me?>>520564302Who is supporting them with weapons, ammunition, equipment, intelligence, satellite communications, and most importantly, almost a trillion dollars in cash and loans by now? The Rebel Alliance? The Horde? Hogwarts? House Targaryen? Who is also footing those losses when ukraine loses?
>>520564338Pan Syrskyi, will drafting the mentally challenged and unstable help Ukraine win? Are you sure?
>>520564480whoa it is? who told you that? >>520564531whoa, so poor puccia isnt really fighting the whole FAFO, then? thanks for agreeing.
>>520564626Send in the next wave!
>>520564661As you order, Pan Syrskyi
>>520564453>obviously fighting for their ancestral homeland
>>520564692Send in the next wave!
>>520564531i seeing piles of dead russians in this thread alone. and dont see any signs of support stopping, ukraine just got more patriots. but im seeing russians getting eaten by animals way lot than before
>>520560106It's basically a complete encirclement. The only way out is 10 km of open fields with no cover under fire from both sides
>>520564531are you saying nato support flows to ukraine and aint stopping and nato soldiers isint dying in ukraine, seems pretty double think.
>>520564720They’re at Pokrovsk, Pan Syrskyi. Shall we send in another wave?
>>520564864Is it Syrsky who forces pidors to rush minefields and drone kill zones?
>>520564453>>520564716>year 1500>russia still doesnt existthe word "ancestral" doesnt really apply to that meme state lmao.
>>520564757you said that in avdeevka and managed to encircle only 100-200 soldiers.
>>520560106kek didn't ukraine learn to never let the two tips touch?
>>520560690JUST STAY IN THE POCKET UKRAINEDONT LET RUSSIA TAKE PORK ROAST
Syrsky ordered next wave of pidors to rush minefield on bikes
>>520564864explain to me why russians care more about ukraine losses than their own meat puppet suicide attacks we see in this thread?
>>520564909It is not pidors, it is mentally challenged defenders of Ukraine. Otherwise yes
>>520563466that makes ruzzians turbojews then seeing as how totally shit tier they are at war.
>>520560725Could your country 1v1 Ukraine?
>>520560106>slavshits>good at anythingthey are the indians of Europe and a parasitic race on the planet
>>520565062Syrsky did this.
>>520564931>year 1500are you legitimately retarded? Why did you even reply? I don't want to converse with the mentally challenged
>>520564660>>520564851Who is supporting them with weapons, ammunition, equipment, intelligence, satellite communications, and most importantly, almost a trillion dollars in cash and loans by now? Somehow you are completely unable to answer this.
>>520565018Does Azov ride bikes instead of BTRs and Brapleys now? Stop calling them pidors, Pan Syrskyi will save Ukraine
>>520565135Syrsky is ordering next wave of pidors to rush minefields in civilian car.
>>520565099I see less than 11 men. Must be fake
>>520565163Pan Syrsky together with Pan Budanov are ordering the next wave of noble Azovites to free Pokrovsk with no losses
>>520560430Interesting if true. Russia seems to deliberately avoid complete encirclements, instead preferring to offer them a way out and shelling the fuck out of the corridor when they do. This could actually be the time they stop falling for that trick but this (getting completely encircled) seems even more retarded. >implying Ukraine is actually trying to win
>>5205613372 .MORE.WEEKS. 2 MORE HEKKIN WEEKS
>>520564174Right. 100 hour victory against one of the largest and well equipped armies in the world. An EXPEDITIONARY endeavor, with logistics transport to the other side of the planet (unlike russia's ideal logistics, of contiguity Ukraine). Regime change and all objectives achieved, as explained herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIpcTX4CMAY&t=7svictory paradehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_ddF8IQGAoperationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_SY87MUTg&t=43s>>520564238>Because they are fighting the entire NATONo, they aren't. You would see aircraft carriers and stealth fighters, Tomahawk cruise missiles being fired, NATO radar planes, ect. and NATO unit boots on the ground, things like that, if that were true. They are, in point of fat, just fighting the AFU. Unlike russia and their north koreans. The imaginary NATO force doesn't exist, and is just a coping mechanism for russia shills to use, to assuage the fact that they are in the 4th year of a 3 day SMO.
>>520564338bros still running
>>520565062those are russians tho, propably mentally challenged also.
>>520565164Pan Syrsky did this to pidors.
>>520565105you seem very upset by the fact russia didnt even exist in 1500.sounds like a you problem. >>520565130>Who is supporting them with weapons, ammunition, equipment, intelligence, satellite communications, and most importantly, almost a trillion dollars in cash and loans by now?are you asking about russia here?
>>520565207Nonononon, Pan Syrsky what are you doing?!
>>520565273What did Pan Syrskyi and Pan Budanov do to Azov?
>>520564946I wonder how many Ukrainians were killed there. You people are funny>Yes, you have surrounded us but that is not enough>>520564947I'm really curious what the fuck they're doing. There's been no order to retreat and Ukrainian media are still saying they're winning under Pokrovsk
>>520565319Drafting the mentally challenged?
>>520565325Pan Syrsky sends another wave of pidors.
>>520565105>dont defend your land or your families nooooooyou are literally retarded>>520565130nigger the norks gave the russkie military more aid than eu combined gave ukraine, lmao
>>520561770Because it's fucking funny to see Ziggers getting assblasted by it every time.
>>520560523>Ukraine still hasn't done a mass conscription.Who do they have left to conscript? Women?The problem for Ukraine is that, pretty much everyone under the age of 18 left before their 18th birthday. Everyone over the age of 25 is either in the military, working in logistics, or unfit for service. The few men in the 18-22 bracket who didn't escape, all left recently when they opened the border. That really just leaves a few 23-24 year olds who were over 18 before the war, and over 22 now, so they couldn't leave when they eased travel restrictions recently.
>>520565353Why Pan Syrsky ordered this pidors to kill himself?
>>520565357Hahaha I wouldn’t have answered that question too. To easy the process for you, Azov is liberating Pokrovsk as we speak. All per Pan Syrskyi’s genius! Now send in the next wave
>>520565309you looked at what you and I posted and decided that's what upset me? Is this the result of iodine deficiency I keep hearing about?
>>520565467Pan Syrsky stacked pidors neatly to rot.
>>520565423The same reason he ordered to draft the mentally unstable. He wants Ukraine to win
>>520565130nato countries and some non nato countries gives weapons, what make you think you can bleed nato out of weapons, i havent seen nato sending any troops so far. i just dont understand what makes ukraine bleed out if they keep getting weapons, and russians are literally piling up like we see in this thread
>>520565309>>520565371Who is supporting them with weapons, ammunition, equipment, intelligence, satellite communications, and most importantly, almost a trillion dollars in cash and loans by now?This completely mindbreaks the nafotranny. Guess all those just materialized out of thin air.
>>520565076Realistically, Poland and France would have been the only two European countries that would have had a shot in 2022. Assuming they magically shared a land border.
>>520565451I guess by that logic Finland isn't the ancestral homeland of Finns.
>>520565495Pan Syrsky ordered pidors to do another meatwave into drone kill zone and die. Oh well.
>>520565494Send in the next wave! Pan Syrskyi’s mentally unstable team will save Azov
>>520560106You'd think they'd surrender at that point. Especially after the meme spec ops force got wiped out within several hours of landing.
>>520565563Pan Syrskyi ordered Azov to free Pokrovsk. Send in the next wave! Azov disappeared somewhere
>>520565498both sides get aid, it's ok, lil guy, the might ruzzzian bear needs aid in order to create a theater of war right at their border with a country they literally occupied for centuries.
>>520565563Syrski loves meat waves. Sadly he will be looking for a new job soon.
>>520565567More pidor meatwaves for Pan Syrsky.
>>520565346lot less than russians200 men is anyway strategic encirclement. its like sayin it was success even 90-95% got away
>>520565498>This completely mindbreaks the nafotranny.no it doesnt, let me answer your dumbass question real quick: >who is supporting russia with weapons, ammo, equipment, money and soldiers?china, india and iran.got any more super easy questions i can answer for ya sweetie?
>>5205601067 minute long walk through of just fuck loads of dead russians. This is the clip I was talking about here>>520564453https://files.catbox.moe/r4em3p.mp4This is actually one of the most remarkable clips of the 3 day SMO. So many dead russians. See pic for the concept of doing the OPPOSITE of russia does, with their attrition warfare.The point would be NOT to self suicide as a race, in pursuit of marginal gains.
>>520565469yup, sure, you started crying and shitting yourself when you saw a map of europe in 1500.
>>520565614>Aid means purchasing equipmentDumbest of nigger gorillas
>>520565638>Syrski loves meat waves.True. Pidor meatwaves rushing into minefilends and drone kill zones to be specific. He keeps ordering pidors to do it all the time and they obey.
>>520565495russian soldiers fight like puppets so even mentally challenged might get a shot erasing them it seems
>>520565572Surely that had to be some attempt at a VIP rescue mission or something. But even then it doesn't really make sense, they should have been waiting.
>>520564015THD needs to be achieved for full demilitarisation to occur.
>>520564660heard it from poles. you guys are constantly butthurt about having had your anuses gaped by your more powerful neighbours. considering how stupid you are i'd say you deserve it and belong under the boot of one or the other
>>520565763>Rescue mission>Helicopters all leave???? Was the target in the middle of a field?
>>520565730>muh purchaselmao, you mean NATO gives it all for free? Are you that dense?
Note that the more Ukraine is losing the louder the seething becomes. Ukrainians are so pathetic, they fled their country and all they do is post random crap on anime forums.
>>520565572it would be nice to see intelligence about this, aa i saw was copter landing and getting away intact
>>520565535retarded much?Finland has it's own unique language and its own distinct culture, unlike the Ukraine that speaks a developed-in-the-18th-century meme language and whose alphabet is just the Cyrillic alphabet with a couple of cosmetic changes.At this point, anyone who believes Ukrainians aren't just LARPing Russians is a retard.
>>520565767>i made it uplmao sad.
>>520565730like purchasing back their s series from turkey?
>>520565667Name what they sent. Gerans are produced domestically. Should be easy sweaty.
>>520565803You tell me what they were trying to achieve apart from deactivating a few FPV drones.
>>520565653They died to promote Oligarch interests and wealth. There is no greater honor for a Homo Sovieticus, their ancestors are awaiting in the great Gulag above smiling. Can you say the same when you die Hohol?
>>520560725>it's just like star warsFuck off trannie
>>520565889kek
>>520565869>Name what they sent.>should be easyyup, very easy. north korean ammo, iranian shaheds, and chinese golf carts, from the top of my head.
>>520565735Nanoazov, son. It hardens in response to defending Pokrovsk
>>520566053Purchased, licensed and produced in Russia, also purchased. Where are the gibs?
>>520565807it seems the more ukies post literal videos of russians piling up attracts orcs who are saying stuff like ukraine conscripts retards, and muh nato. i see piles of russian retards not piles of ukraines mentally challenged defenders
>>520566139https://amp.dw.com/en/why-are-mentally-ill-soldiers-being-drafted-in-ukraine/a-73330497Send in the next wave!
>>520566134nope.
>>520565764They will just continue to die like thishttps://files.catbox.moe/r4em3p.mp4For marginal gains, and they will never take any city of substantial size, let alone kiev. They have effectively endless hydrocarbons to pay sub human moscovites and their shitskin conspirator mercs, though, so they will certainly grind their own moscovite fighting age male population down to near 0 to attempt, though.
>>520566139>ukraines mentally challenged defendersKek you’re alright kid
>>520566213Yep. Cope some more?
>>520566126I never even heard about Pokrovsk before 2024, but not it's a new giga festung with rows and rows of pidor bodies stacked everywhere around it.Can't wait to see when pidors will finally turn it into a pile of rubble so they can start meatwaveing another city I never heard about before.Thanks, Pan Syrsky.
>>520566213Hello pol-ACK?
>>520566207still cant see piles of dead ukraine retards like dead russian retards.i never have a answer why russia cares about ukraine losses than their own, even their own losses are higher.
>>520566134niggah tell me about the deal that the initial 8 million artillery shells plus artillery systems & nork battalion were part of cause you say purchased as in money were given. They took them the same way as ukraine takes military aid as part of bilateral deals. Ofcourse ukraines position is far worse as its a far weaker country but i can assure you these are bilateral deals that rarely have money.
What are they doing? They have to get out of there before it’s too late
>>520565496So are you ready to admit that Russia is fighting the NATO or just not completely there yet?>>520565614>>520565667Who is supporting them with weapons, ammunition, equipment, intelligence, satellite communications, and most importantly, almost a trillion dollars in cash and loans by now?Incredibly funny how hard they are avoiding this question.
>>520566402Yeah I just posted 2 sources. Here's anoda one.
>>520566126>Nanoazov, son.Your sons will never get to experience anything that will lead to them being able to twist western memes in perversion.And thats a good thing, according to your csar.
>>520566308that jpeg proves me right, thanks. >>520566449uh oh guys, i think i broke this bot, my bad.
>>520560106Because nafo weapons and commanders are gay niggers.
>>520565978Yeah, they are depopulating the moscovite race while funneling tax dollars to massively build up the western military industry/capabilities. They are using the profits from the assets of russian/israeli dual citizen oligarchs for some of the funding as well. Quite a good strategy. Not a single NATO unit put in harms way, either.This is WAY more destructive to the moscovite race demographics than the cold war ever produced, and no NATO troops are dying. Russia's hydrocarbons resources are going up in smoke as well. . Quite brilliant.
>>520566468again its a bilateral deal same way ukrainians are getting weapons, nothing is for free, you turbonigger
>>520566550I accept your concession. No prob.
>>520566217Strategically speaking, they don't have a choice but to continue the war until Ukraine is pacified. They missed their opportunity in 2014 to do this and now it has to be done the hard way. When Ukraine is demilitarised and Russia's borders are on the Carpathians they can feel safe.
>>520566585Okay.
>>520560106So much different flags, so much similar butthurt. With the amount of ukrainians ITT, ukraine could hold out longer.
>>520566586sweetie, nobody is giving you a concession.you posted a jpeg that proves me right, thanks. wanna talk about iranian made iranian shaheds sent from iran?hmmm? wanna talk about that one?
>>520566449russia is not fighting nato soldiers, they do take a hits from weapons that where sent by nato conuntries, ukraine is not in nato. if nato where there the airspace would be closed.
>>520566644at least you understood that point
>>520566716I don't think you did.
>>520566316Thanks for defending the town Ukraine didn’t need anyway, Pan Syrskyi! Now send in the next wave! Azov has disappeared
>>520566637bs russa just got 1000km of new nato border anyway, a real nato border.
>>520566665I didn't post a jpeg. Also yes let's talk about the Iranian shaheds sent from Iran.
Whitoids are just dumb and can't fight. go ahead based mongolians, kill the men and rape the women, like the gold old times (1945)!
>>520565852>Finland has it's own unique language and its own distinct cultureNot any more than Ukraine has. I'd wager that Russia probably has the least unique culture and language between Finland, Ukraine and Russia. They borrow a lot from other cultures.
>>520566747>Azov has disappearedAgain? Didn't they disappear after Mariupol? Really makes me think how pidors keep destroying them, but they only grow larger.Almost like demilitarization which only increased Ukrainian Aiforce in size.
>>520560106OP, good book to read if you want to learn about maneuver wargare, the thing that russians lack the ability to do, as was seen in their initial failed operations, which is why they had to settle on attrition. see picrel here >>520565685for a https://dokumen.pub/the-art-of-maneuver-9780307513274.html
>>520566780ok cool and dont forget the north korean shells made in north korea and chinse golf carts made in china.
>>520566761>1000km of forests and/or swamps vs 1000km of open fields straight to moscow
Are these gibs?
>>520566864I said what I said. Send in the next wave! Azov has been sent at Pokrovsk and we need their help to defend it
>>520566761No change in the defensive situation though.If Ukraine goes NATO then it's ogre.
>>520566890>open fields lul
>>520566875Don't forget the Nvidia chips made in Taiwan. Which Russia had to buy, again. So what's the cope point you're still trying to make?
>>520566890>1000km of open fields straight to moscowRussia itself struggles to advance in these open fields. How could these open fields possibly pose a threat to them.
>>520561337you literally are just saying the west hasn't been able to claim an inch of land back
Putin is trying to kill off Whites in Russia and Ukraine. Prigozhin knew this , which is why he turned his forces against the Russian government but like a stupid pussy he backed down , and was killed for it . Prigozhin accused the Russian government of striking Wagner soldiers because they were!
>>5205665641) Western military stockpiles are being depleted. The West is going bankrupt.2) Jewmerica wouldn't dare confiscate assets from Jews. Only Russian state assets are being seized.3) There are plenty of NATO units on the ground in Ukraine. But in advisory and other special operations roles. Some have also likely been killed.4) Russia's population will grow substantially when this war ends. Ukraine will for all intents and purposes cease to exist.5) The amount of oil being lost to fires is a drop in the ocean. Attacks on refineries are only intended to create temporary shortages, both for the war effort, and for export. Over the long-term they are basically irrelevant.
>>520567003nice argument, I agree>>520567072is this a serious question?
>>520567110Prigozhin labeled the Russian leadership “evil” and stated, “Those who destroyed our guys today, those who destroyed tens, many tens of thousands of lives of Russian soldiers will be punished.” He alleged that Russian forces had attacked the Wagner Group, killing “a huge number of fighters.” Prigozhin named Shoigu and Gerasimov as responsible for the supposed rocket, artillery, and helicopter attack and the deaths of 2,000 Wagner Group fighters.
>>520560106How the actual fuck is this still going on... It's so fucking small. How many fabs to crater the whole thing? Do they only fight on weekends? How the fuck is everything so retarded?
>>520567149>is this a serious question?Yeah, if these open fields were such a great vector for an attack we'd see Russia having far more success in Ukraine.
>>520567149nigger you say open field and you think its something that you can go 200km/h on with a fucking bradley when in reality it is swampland, treelines, rivers, bridges small towns, cities etc.
>>520567010>>520567100>whats your pointthat russia always was famously dogshit at waging wars and this pathetic disaster of an invasion is just another example of it.its extremely funny.
>>520560106How many weeks does it take to encircle???
>>520567258Glad we can have fun together. Don't pop a blood vessel from all the fun you're having.
Anyone else find it sad how fucking slow all these "gains" are? Like, the most backwater forgotten front with the most poorly equipped troops without any major transport or mechanization in like WW2 would make this wars "gains" look like a joke. How the fuck does it take so long to do anything? How do these "encirclement" never actually get closed? How can you have a huge bulge in the front, for like months that's only a few km long you could probably fucking like indirect fire a machine again across the two sides. But it stays open? Like force the encirclement, the Ukrainians could evacuate their men in like tiny groups that just make their way out at night and shit. It won't be some massive withdrawal like in WW2 when you have 50k troops and vehicles clogging up the one road out and it's a turkey shoot.
>>520566869>the thing that russians lack the ability to doUkraine can't do it either despite having Bradley's, Abrams, Leo 2's, Strikers etc. What gives?
>>520567345i already popped several, its just too funny.
>>520567401I can tell.
>>520567258>that russia always was famously dogshit at waging warsYes. That's why it's so big.
>>520567243why? I thought they're drunks on donkeys fighting with shovels. Surely this can't be compared to the NATO combined-arms might that could attack through there>>520567251so the border between Russia and Ukraine is the same as the border with Finland/Sweden?
>>520560106Link the website faggot
>>520567352russia cannot use their airforce to a full extent, they are unable for DEAD/SEAD operations as they deem way too risky to use their airforce inside ukraine thus they use drones just like ukrainians do. Lads on the front get to basements and trenches and wait it out or further advance slowly, basement by basement. You can imagine how many die on assaults on said basements/trenches by drones alone or even on resupply runs or rotations.
>>520567352>WW2Ah yes, I remember the endless camera drones they had flying around providing constant images of the frontlines back then
>>520567469>if it has rivers, trees and swamps its the same!!!nigger are you dense? If we discover trees on mars would it make it the same as earth? go look at fucking topomaps for fucks sake i wont spoonfeed you
>>520567469>why? I thought they're drunks on donkeys fighting with shovels. Surely this can't be compared to the NATO combined-arms might that could attack through thereYou tell me. You're implying that these open fields pose a strategic threat to them, would NATO be able to do what Russia has been unable to and use them to Blitzkrieg all the way to Moscow? I somehow doubt that.
>>520560106Has the snail reached the baltics yet?
>>520567467>puccia big, so puccia stronk!if only that were true, lmao, literally the worst record on the northern hemishpere.
>>520567832True. We need to mobilise more Ukrainian men
>>520567742can you even follow the thread? Replies are hyperlinked, it's not that hard. I was replying to some memeflag nigger saying they gained a NATO border anyway>>520567744>I somehow doubt that.but would you risk it if you were in Russia's place? Relying on the incompetence of the enemy is the trademark of NATO, not Russia
>>520567742YOU'RE RETARDED. FINLAND IS A FROZEN WASTELAND WITH SWAMPS THAT HAVE TO BE RESUPPLIED THROUGH FUCKING NARVIK IN THE EVENT OF WWIII. UKRAINE IS OPEN STEPPELAND THAT CAN BE REINFORCED FROM A HALF-DOZEN COUNTRIES WITH MASSIVE ESTABLISHED ROAD AND RAILWAY NETWORKS AND PRIOR TO THE WAR HAD 10X MORE PEOPLE. THE IDEA THAT FINLAND IS IN ANY WAY EQUIVALENT TO UKRAINE IS DELUSIONAL AT BEST. KYS RETARD.
>>520566864Did you get buckbroken by Pan Syrskyi strategic genius? You’ll be sent in next after the mentally challenged then
>>520567958what he said it's true. Anyway the problem of the ruzzkies was never blitzkrieg but missile installations you imbecile.
>>520568040HAHAHAHA what a massive raging faggot, there won't be an invasion from finland in that case, only defense + missile attacks
>>520567832>literally the worst record on the northern hemishpere.Poles are so fucking retarded. What is their problem? Someone please post the "retard removal" webm.
>>520568070>what he said it's trueso it doesn't matter if it's 1000km in Finland or 1000km in Ukraine?
>>520567958>but would you risk it if you were in Russia's place?They have lived experience of how nigh on impossible it is to mount a large force across in these open fields. They might have been strategically important a hundred years but that's gone. We live in a completely different world now.
>>520568145>there won't be an invasion from finland in that case, only defense + missile attacksCorrect, retard. Same reason the Winter War started. Stalin demanded a buffer around Saint Petersburg to protect against possible Finno-Germanic artillery.
>>520568269this is what you say, the reality is that they got a real nato border that borders pidorsburg and they militarised ukraine plus lost ukrainians as a seemingly "brother" nation that they always propagated as. >>520568328you are buck broken
>>520567398>>520567398>>520567398
>>520568403>you are buck brokenI'm only stating facts.
>>520568070>was never blitzkrieg but missile installationsDistance from Estonia to Saint-Petersburg: 100km.Distance from Finland to Saint-Petersburg: 130km.Distance from Latvia to Moscow: 580km.Distance from Finland to Moscow: 760km.
>>520568040plus if you actually knew anything about railroads on ex soviet block countries you would know that their railroads are different than western ones ie EU ones. If you travelled anywhere and knew the world outside your bubble you would know that resupplying ukraine via railroad is a pain in the ass, lmfao. you raging homosexual
>>520568403you keep running around the question because you're stupid, but not stupid enough to realize your argument is indefensible. Just take the L>>520568291That's not how defense planning works. You don't just abandon all precautions and plans because of recent developments, you plan for all contingencies
>>520568588different countries, different variables and Finland is a tough nut.>>520568618>Just take the Lkek you okay, lad?
>>520568755>different countries+>different variables?>Finland is a tough nut?
>>520566550>>520566691Who is supporting them with weapons, ammunition, equipment, intelligence, satellite communications, and most importantly, almost a trillion dollars in cash and loans by now?I love how you just have to keep repeating this question, because nafotroons are simply not allowed to answer it, no matter how obvious it is.
>>520568807finland is made to withstand russian bombardment, they got actual reserve force that is trained and OK mentality for defending their country. What does variables mean? You simply cannot walk in to finland with an army, lad.
>>520568599What I was trying to point out is that Ukraine has a fairly redundant network for transportation that is basically impossible to stop and easy to make repairs in a more mild climate.Basically, in the event of WWIII, how does Finland get resupplied? And in what way does 5 million people equal 40-50 million people?Obviously Ukraine is a far larger threat than Finland. It's not even debatable. The fact that you act like it isn't, is just proof that you're either a lying kike or a fucking retard. Now fuck off trannie.
>>520568915>finland is made to withstand russian bombardmentIn what way?>they got actual reserve force that is trainedIsn't the point of NATO that resources get pooled together and Latvians wouldn't be fighting alone using their 15 reservists and a WW1 era tank?>OK mentality for defending their countryAre you calling the Baltic Tigers cowards?>You simply cannot walk in to finland with an armyWhat would be the purpose of that be? To take out "missile installations"?
>>520560106>>520560106>>520560106Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990
>>520568917lel where did i say that? I agreed with the memeflaggot that said they got another real nato border on the north that borders pidorsburg. >>520569041bunkers, lad, many.>2fallacy>3muh x shit>4cognitive dissonance
>>520568755are you confused or something? Are you saying the two borders are the same or not?
>>520569146>bunkers, lad, many.How many bunkers are we talking?
>>520569065Rent free.
>>520569241absolutely not the same, what the fugg nigger wasn't i the one that told you trees on mars dont equate fucking earth? are you using your braincells? i swear you faggots that support governmental entities, in your cases russia, are fucking retarded.
>>520568618>That's not how defense planning works.But it does. Terrain plays a huge part in defense planning but this also depends entirely on how wars are fought. A thousand years ago it wouldn't have made a difference whether or not an attack came from Finland or Ukraine, a hundred years ago the territory favored an attack in Ukraine and in todays world it's practically impossible to carry out large scale offensives in the open fields of Ukraine.
>>520569337Hey, you seem upset, please relax, it's just a random discussion on the internet.
Russia is in a pretty weird position to be in for their propaganda.They keep saying that Ukraine is so weak and pathetic, not even a real country. But Russia is still being fought to a standstill by that weak country.
>>520569337so you're arguing my point but don't have the mental capacity to realize it? Are you ok?
>>520569322You gay.
>>520569146>I agreed with the memeflaggot that said they got another real nato border on the north that borders pidorsburg.I honestly don't understand what you were saying. I saw your message here >>520567003 then your followup here >>520567251 and another >>520567742It sounded like you were arguing that Ukraine was no more a threat than Finland.
>>520567832Could Poland 1v1 Russia?
>>520568913Ukraine is facing Russia, North Korea, and Iran, and managed to fight those 3 Nuclear or regional Powers to a standstill, lmao.
>>520569476Ur mum gay~
>>520569525They beat them at least twice.
>>520569579Btw posting furry is a new low for you, iDrama.Kek
>>520569452nigger you got short memory, re read your posts and my replies to you. you argued that open fields from ukraine to moscow are easy to traverse with an ivnasion army while they clearly are not, lmao.>>520569410tell that to your boi that got broken and resorted to all caps, kek
>>520569525>Could Poland 1v1 Russia?To be fair, all of Europe combined couldn't 1v1 Russia. Europe can't do anything without America.
>>520569650How is it new if the real tailposter has been posting furries on /pol/ for at least 6 years now?
>>520569650>>520569579It's so cringe and gay as the Coronachans you used to post in /cvg/ lmaoTotal faggotry.
>>520569688>while they clearly are not, lmaouh-huh, squirm more for anons itt
>>520569688I wasn't there at the time, I think. Looks like he either left or did the right thing and has calmed down. So should you.
>>520569849>the real tailposterNo such thing, you are literally a squad of troons and glowniggers with VPNs.Now you can seethe and screech about it.
>>520569893once more >topomapstry it, laddie>>520569915it's alright you might follow but its already page 10
>>520569932>he doesn't know
>>520569978You gay.
>>520569952> its already page 10That's great though, I'm glad that a thread such as this hit a bump limit. Far too often they just slide off.
>>520569998U mum gay~
>>520570089Fag.
>>520570102NOU
>>520570173No, u.
>>520569762Exactly, yet they all talk shit. Even Ukraine with its current level of support would be no push over.
>>520570188Nuh-uh!
