I'm glad people are waking up to the fincuck lie. They fucking lost.
>>520737971But they’re an inspiration to anyone who lives in cold climates who is hip to the JQ (like how all memeflags, like you, are jews) and how to slaughter their wargoys like cattle in the darkness of winter.
I do not like the finns. They are gooks wearing white skin.
since giving into russian demands and ceding land in 2014-15 worked so well for ukraine on the long run
>>520738331Nothing does, as long as russia is at war with yurop your nations are fodder, better get used to it
>>520738331>and ceding land in 2014-15funnily enough, no one did ask them to cede landL/DPR were mighty pissed at Minsk accords for forcing hohols to reintegrate them with some conditionsmuch like finns, hohols were too delusional and now we are where we are
>>520737971The Soviet Union's goal was to overrun all of Europe, including Finland. They would have manufactured a pretext to annex the whole country. When Germany struck, they were able to devastate the Soviets because they caught them just as they were preparing for their Europe-wide mobilization and offensiveSo the Finns won insofar as they prevented annexation by the SovietsIts also the case that, despite the Germans losing WW2, they killed off 1/3 to half of Russia's fighting age young men and thus crippled the Soviet war machine from ever expanding by land wars after that point
>>520737971trvthnvke!!their woman leader lead them to death in NATO too.
>>520737971>believing soviet liesones should never trust russians, one should never trust commies
>>520738432Russia annexed crimea
>>520738535nigger you are the biggest commies on this continent. The fucking writer of communism was a german jew. Germany just narrowly avoided it thanks to Mr. H.
didn't russia want different parts of finland initially
>>520738592correct, and actually interesting facet of this current conflict is how Crimean water crisis influenced the math at play but no, after that the 2 versions of Minsk accords followed
>>520738432>just give us Crimea got and we will not go further >okay, don’t shoot Russian soldiers and just retreat on mainland >AXAXAXA, NOW WE WILL TAKE DONETSK AND LUHANSK AND ZAPORIZHIA AND KHERSON
>>520737971Death to all subhuman Russian niggerpigs.
>>520737971> Huge swathes of territory
>>520738596>nigger you are the biggest commies on this continent. The fucking writer of communism was a german jew.that's why i know best what i am talking about - never trust commies. they consider kindness as weakness. you have that bread, they will bite off the whole hand. it's never enough for them, unless they take everything from you. and then they'll give you back a dime and insist that they provide you with food, so you should be thankful.fuck commies
>>520738726Minsk accords have nothing to do with Crimea tho, which is the land hohols are now forced to cede through war
>>520737971>Soviets were offering If they agreed to whatever was on offer, they would just give them better starting position. You can't negotiate in these situations and just like Ukraine, the fact that Finland toughed it out for as long as they did and retain independence from anything Russia/USSR is a win of itself
>>520738794>which is the land hohols are now forced to cede through warmeant L/DPR obv, i need more coffee
>>520738714> Crimean water crisis influenced>take over naturally arid territory with no natural rivers>surprised pikachu face when invaded country doesn’t maintain artificial pumping stations to pump their water to CrimeaAre Russians stupid?
>>520737971Gibb a cute racist finnish wife
>>520738794> Minsk accordsConsidering Russia broke both accord by attacking Debaltseve and Donetsk airfield I don’t know why Russians even bring them up>AXAXAXA LOOK AT ACCORDS WE BROKE
>>520738839>when invaded country doesn’t maintain artificial pumpingso, in other terms>offered to let it go>refuses to let it go>loses even morea very familiar pattern, which is this thread is all aboutthe halt was atrificial btw, not the maintainence, by closing the dam, not that it matters
>>520737971>Just give us one of your most populated cities and a huge swathe of your defensive line bro, we'll give you this stretch of uninhabited wilderness in exchange!>ps we totes won't just invade you anyways after you concede to these land transfers, please do not look at what happened to the baltic states.LolLmao even.We were completely in the right to tell ruskies to fuck off, and Stalin got embarassed by the winter war to a point that it made the krauts think that they could just roll over the ruskies given how the russian army failed to take a tiny and insignifgant perhphery nation like Finland.
>>520738936>Considering Russia broke bothconsider away, we are of different opinion>i disagreewell, feel free to field an army to express your disagreement in practicehohols didhadnt helped them much
>>520738986>in the righti doubt anyone denies thatyou just lost
That blatant lie again. No such "offer" was made. Russia was always going to attack Finland no matter what, just like they were going to attack Ukraine no matter what. Russians are lying thieving violent niggers.
>>520737971Soviets wanted to set up a puppet government. Finns successfully repulsed the final goal of the invasion.
>>520738992Facts do not agree with your opinion. Russia broke those agreements just like it has always broken every agreement in history. Everyone now knows russia can never be trusted to abide by any agreements.
>>520738946> halt was atrificial btw, not the maintainenceAre Russians literally all retarded? There are no natural rivers going from Kherson to crimea, channel is artificial and Ukraine has no obligations to pump freshwater to Russia. All works related to channel is artificial, maintenance or dam
>>520739042>Russians are lying thieving violent niggersIt should be legal to kill them on sight.
>>520737971When you are zigger and cannot understands something called strategic goalsFor them wasting 90% of your equipment and army for few acres of land is win lolBut outherwise they had to undestand that they are loosers and this is something that cannot stand
>>520739042>That blatant lie again. No such "offer" was madenopehttps://histdoc.net/pdf/NKID1939-10-14.pdf>>520739045>Soviets wanted to set up a puppet governmentnopehttps://histdoc.net/pdf/NKID1939-10-14.pdfhttps://histdoc.net/pdf/NKID1939-10-14.pdf
>>520739291>nope>sets up a puppet government and release statements about "when" you get to HelsinkiSure.
>>520737971>loosing 300 000+ for marchlandstandard Russian behavior
>>520739379>loosing 300 000How much is that in human lives
>>520739133https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Crimean_Canalbuilt by commies btwnow>After the Maidan revolution and the subsequent Russian annexation of Crimea in March 2014, Ukrainian authorities greatly reduced the volume of water flowing to the peninsula>by means of damming the canal>>520738946>by closing the dam
>>520739361hm hm hm
>>520737971I legitimately thought that Finland won the war for like a decade because of the way Finns talk about it online
>>520739417>built by commies btwand?Once again I'm asking are you fucking retarded?>After the Maidan revolution and the subsequent Russian annexation of Crimea in March 2014, Ukrainian authorities greatly reduced the volume of water flowing to the peninsulaand?
>>520738986> that gorilla nigger asked for my wallet> I was completely in the right to tell him to fuck off> I lost my wallet, half my teeth, got an arm broken and my ass is sore> clearly my winyou did good, fren.
>>520738753>Death to all subhuman Russian niggerpigs.
>>520739472>btw>and?you do understand what "by the way" means, right?>>520739472>Once again I'm askingi wrote>the halt was atrificial btw, not the maintainence, by closing the damyou wrote>Are Russians literally all retarded?then i post>greatly reduced the volume of water flowing to the peninsula>by means of damming the canalup your reading comprehension game, or smthi think i know you, only one czech on this board is so... hohol oriented
>>520737971The worst thing is that they betrayed our boys to save their asses in 44
One russian man is btfoing five of you /uhg/ sissies with facts and truth while you continue to lie and switch topics (he btfo of you on anyway)Embarrassing
>>520737971Nice propaganda proposal brought up by Finnish commie government in exile that wouldn't have happened. Why don't you post the terms handed to Mannerheim by Molotov? What happened to the Baltics after they accepted forced Soviet terms? >>520739122In the Vatnik mindset it was you who forced his hand into breaking the treaty so it's your fault. Same nigger tier reasoning Lavrov recently argued.>We've never had any thoughts about attacking the EU or NATO nations!>Here are some agreements and concessions you have to make so that I'll preserve that intent!Then they wonder why nobody wants to oartner with them or does the opposite.
>>520739291i'm sure that there was no soviet involvement in the signing of treaties by a "finnish" government in moscow, led by a someone that had lived in moscow for the last 20 years
>>520739683>One russian manThat's a lot of AIDS.
>>520737971it was worth the 500,000 dead russkies
>>520738432>funnily enough, no one did ask them to cede landFunnily enough, Putin wanted to force Ukraine into being a completely ungovernable mess.The crux was to give regions of Ukraine (that is Putin himself via his proxies) the right to veto central government's decisions.Literally a larp of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth's last decades when nobles bribed by foreign powers vetoed any legislation to turn the state into a mess ripe for annexation.Ukraine was right not to go for this.
>>520739122>Facts do not agree with your opinionboots on the ground doany other form of disagreement is superfluous
>>520739697Russians are basically jews but dumber. They have a massive persecution complex and a nigger tier dindu nuffin belief.
>>520739766>lets talk about something elseyou do you>>520739701>established in dec 1939there are heaps of diplomatic correspondence and multiple delegation visits prior to that in september-november 1939, complete with final rejection in late october and finish govt memos leaking to USSR in novonce it became clear that you will not agree to the terms, this whole peoples republic fest begunagain, surreal how history repeats itself
>>520737971>Chaylmao
>>520738789Do you ubderstand that russia is no longer a communist country and germany us more comunist than any post soviet republic?
>>520737971>give me your most critical territory bordering me for free and I will give you an impassable wastelandwill russians ever learn to simmer down
>>520739766>>520738432>>520739967Cont.But I do agree on one thing. Putin fucked up by not outright annexing Donbas. You see, the events of 2014 were actually welcomed by large segments in Ukraine's east. Had they got the Crimea treatment, the'd be probably today faithful Russian subjects. And the rest would open the doors to Russian army back in 2022.But Putin thought he needed Luganda and Donbabwe to exert pressure on Ukraine and to regain control over the whole of it. So he put both regions into a perpetual limbo ruled by mafias and warlords, where life was objectively bad by any metric. Life of dilapidated infrastructure, no water or electricity and people being robbed on daily basis but thugs pretending to be policemen.This worsening of living conditions under Russian domination was THE public face of Russian rule in Ukraine. THIS is what made the East and South of Ukraine to dissociate themselves from Russia and fight like devils in the war.
>>520739950Russians just have a different outlook on the world and the politics. They are very different from Europeans. They believe they are their own civilization.Russians have a traditional and primitive mode for conducting international and internal matters. Think of it like if they were a medieval kingdom. There are no rules there's just pure power play. The ones are on the top and the rest must listen to them or else.That's how they always operated and they think this is normal. The west with its bureaucracy and rule of law and human rights is considered to be spoiled and degenerate.
>>520740025>give me your most critical territorywelll.. or dont>an impassable wastelandfinns actually wanted it before, had a lot of karelians or smth
>>520740035least i can do is appreciate the effort post
>>520739766> Ukraine was rightyup, Ukraine was totally in the right. in hindsight, the result was sub-optimal, but they didn't need their combat age male population anyway.
>>520739774Time to enlist dedovschinaut, mother russia needs you.
>>520738992>army is mightalright in that we can agree to but don't act like you have any moral high ground, you are just a faggot ass nigger that supports a zog ass war with zogged government. literal trash of humanity
>>5207402084 years later and rusniggeria still can't beat their smaller and weaker neighbor.
interestingly enough, prior to getting expelled from the league of nations, soviets insisted that there was no war between them and finland and finland was just fighting a civil war. sound familiar?
Oh look its this thread again. We won by keeping our independence, which cannot be said of any other "eastern" european country. In fact because we didnt join ussr today we are wealthy and not considered eastern european. Who cannot understand this is either a retard or a russian shill
>>520740295nahthank God enlisting here is still a choice>>520740317>don't act like you have any moral high groundwhat?id be content with just having high ground, leave your morals for preddiotrs
>>520740319dude.. Ukraine is the size of France, sponsored by the entire NATO + vassals. pardon - "allies".4 years is perfectly fine, compared to 20 years in Afghanistan (a shitshow brought to you by the planet's most powerful invincible supepower)
>>520740350>Finland>keeping it's independenceLook at this retard, look at him and laugh
>>520740846Time for you to be taken behind the sauna, yeah?
>>520740431you are clearly not content, you are a faggot ass nigger that says muh accords and we are defending etc you are invading a so called, by your own nigger gov, brother nation, idiot
>>520737971The soviet union did not offer any land. Stalin only offered demands. Finland was right to resist especially with what happened to the Baltic states who ended up just being conquered after appeasing Dzhugashvili. Finland made them fight for those territorial concessions rather than just giving it to them and they had to pay for it. The real mistake was allowing FDR to even get involved in Europe in any way. >>520739379The entire point was to get some territory from which they could easily invade Helsinki while providing a buffer before Saint Petersburg. Muscovite politics have always been one about aggression against their neighbors with loose justification acquired from a false flag operation they staged. It was no different under that man named Dzhugashvili (meaning son of a Jew) who liked to call himself "man of Steel" especially after he received his Jesuit education. >>520739696>Wesley>Johansson>Eremeev>Svechnikov>BulatselCertainly not Finnish names. Moreover, it's a good thing the reds lost. It spared Finland almost a century of Soviet exploitation. It's interesting to note that even centuries after the end of the Swedish empire, the Swedes wanted Fins to be well off and free of Muscovite barbarity.
>>520737971The offer is a lie. I admire how well Russians weave truth & lies together, it's masterful.>>520738317You should move to Åland if you hate Finns so much. Find your people.>>520738851Finns are not cute, but a Spanish man should not have trouble getting a Finnish wife. Unless you have a massive blonde fetish it will not be worth it>>520739696Delete this
>>520740929>you are clearly not content, you are a faggot ass niggersomeone isnt, thats for sure>that says muh accordsi do like context is all>and we are defending etccorrect>you are invading a so called, by your own nigger gov, brother nation, idiotnote that hyhyls themselves strongly oppose this definition happy to oblige
>>520740431>thank GodYou are already shaking AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA We will see you in drone footage soon enough
>>520741027by your gov, the one you are bootlicking, cuck
>>520738317Thank god we have some gook in us, we might become completely cucked like sven, otherwise.
>>520741016>ÅlandsHe'll be blown the fuck out of there faste than he could say "Hej!"
>>520741053>soon enoughany biweekly estimates you are willing to share?>>520741100>by your govyes, and im telling you that hohols disagree with this definition, have been since 2013
>>520741174www.poteru.net found any of your relatives? Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg
>>520741123well, the girl *is* saved, so...
>>520741230do you often answer a question with a question?
>>520741169You are the one getting blown out for saying "Hei!"
>>520740208Totally legit, guy running away and recording himself while he's at it. It gave him +2 boost to speed.
>>520741174many ukrainians disagreed with that definition long before, that doesn't stop your gov pushing that propaganda for devious reasons and you supporting it with your mental gymnastics. keep bootlicking cumdrinker.
>>520739578yeah you wrote that canal was build by commies and for some reason it makes it not artificial?Kherson-Crimean canal was artificial waterway so Ukraine can let as much water pass through it as they want, since there were not treaties about keeping it open
>>520740073The big mistake us westerners make when dealing with russians is assuming that because they look like us, they also think like us. It's nothing of the sort. The russian way of thinking and mentality is completely alien to Europeans.
>>520741305>that doesn't stop your gov pushing that propagandaall you have to do is stop listeningnot that it will help the ukraine, men and arms will>and you supporting it with your mental gymnastics360 and walk away, that easy
>>520741245For now, eventually all the male pocket pussies will be extinct, who will stand in for the women then?
>>520741352>the halt was atrificial btw, not the maintainence, by closing the dam>greatly reduced the volume of water flowing to the peninsula>by means of damming the canal
>>520741407Are yoy braindamaged?All the pockets that exist are ours
>>520741386alright laddie
>>520741448see ya next time
>>520741375>us westernersyou're pushing it too far, donning a swiss flag doesn't make you non-albanian
>>520741407>who will stand in for the women then?sheep?
>>520737971>a few kilometres of swamplandkek. At what cost though?K/D ratio is insane.
>>520741274You will pay reparations to Ukraine when you lose the war, there is nothing you can do about, LMAO
>>520737971>"Dude just give up!"Yeah and the Americans should've ceded Hawaii to the Japanese too right? If Finns didn't resist then there would be no Finland today and if Ukraine doesn't resist there would be no Ukraine. Surrendering to your enemies is a Jewish concept.
>>520737971>"Surely these jewish communists will keep their word and not invade us after we give up all our defences in this deal."Only russians are stupid enough to buy this.
>>520741407The only finn I ever met irl went out of his way to only date niggers and hated the airforce flag. Maybe uncle A was right not considering you aryans.
>>520737971Should have taken Natalia's offer.
>>520737971Always funny how Russians consider losing a million men for a square mile of dirt is a victory. Life has zero meaning to the Russoids only dirt has value
>>520737971The purpose of suggested exchange was to secure St Petersbourgh, since Soviets feared in possible war with Germany, Fins would attack or their territory used to attack SbB. Soviets were proven right because exactly that happened, Fins sided with Nazis and attacked SPb. The gained in Winter War territories helped to save the city.
>>520737971>>520738100>>520738331fake & gay map. these are the real areas soviet union offered in exchange. op's map shows what conquered finland with a puppet government would have looked like.
>>520737971>give me your second largest city in exchange for millions of kilometers of uninhabited forest land>what do you mean it's a victory that such a small economy and population was able to hold off this kike commie empire of evil??? but they lost laaaand!!!!1!!1!! they lost land it's a defeat!1!!!!!!1!! and the cherry on top is the casualties gap, 25k for finland, 126 to 168k for the USSR. and Finland never joined that shitty communist project unlike other baltic states, it's a victory no matter how you look at it
>>520741743Germany attacked you in self-defense, you left them with no choice. Finland only advanced up to their rightful clay and never pushed to SPb. Unfortunately.
>>520741503It was always standard Soviet practice to throw bodies at their enemies. Often the soldiers weren't even armed. Those arms were too valuable to let go to waste on them. They were better off in the Soviet mind to arm the officers who would shoot soldiers in the back for not charging into battle in spite being deprived of any supplies.
>>520741605> surely if we escalate and invade these jewish communists they will leave us alone and not pursue their goals anywaysSmartest galaxy-brain Finn.
>>520741743It's almost as if..... it's almost as if annoying the Fins tipped them over into siding with Nazi Germany instead of maybe just staying neutral... brilliant gopnik military strategy once again
>>520741562bold statement. do you have any facts to back it up?
>>520741621A single individual you met didn't reflect the statistics referring to Finland as the most racist country in the world? You're a very astute young mutt gentleman! Only Americans I've witnessed are 300lb libcucks crying about being misgendered and even your war veterans turn into vloggers whining about PTSD on their instagram and tiktok profiles, does my assessment reflect the US as a whole?
>>520737971> Binns & other Butthurt Belt's alcoholic reservations' aboriginals are retardedMore news tomorrow
>>520741949I know, Cleetus. No need for the lecture.
>>520741743>Fins sided with Nazis and attacked SPbYeah because you attacked them first you dumb shit zigger shit.
>>520741743Ignoring of course the reality that Dzhugashvili's (son of a jew) government was intending to invade Finland just like he was doing for the rest of the Baltic states and just wanted an easier launching point from which to attack Finland.
>>520742011It reflects half of the US at the very least.
>>520741562>You will pay reparations to Ukrainethats a nonext move?
>>520741848Self defense? Breaking a pact you had only a year and a half earlier is self defense? and in the documents signed they talked about stuff like "friendship, cooperation and demarcation"Have you ever heard of "They cry in pain as they strike you"? It sounds a lot like the Third Reich to me.Swiss mountain jews would've gotten invaded too if they didn't serve as their piggybank
>>520737971Also never forget how they betrayed Adolf and joined the Soviet side lolLiteral buck broken cunt lmao
>>520739647Remind me again how you didn't sell is out in the Molotov - Ribbentrop treaty?
>>520741729remind us, what did USA win in Afghanistan after losing men, trillions of $ and 20 years?
>>520742086I suspected as much, for the life of me I cannot fathom how so many of them cry about their trauma as they shoot practically unarmed goat herders from a helicopter, but the Russians and Ukrainians, for some reason aren't view farming, crying infront of the camera despite being in the trenches, getting shelled and droned the fuck out, curious!
>>520742158210 billion of frozen assets in the EU says you will
>>520739406300000*3/5= 180000 saviors of the white race killed.
>>520738447> So the Finns won insofar as they prevented annexation by the SovietsThey lost a lot less badly than they potentially could have. True. It is still crazy to call it a win. They had to pay war reparations to apologize to Russia for Russia invading them and hand over thousands of Finns to Stalin for punishment. And give up 1/9 of Finland including a major city. All very, very bad. Calling it a win is objectively a cope.
>>520741352Are you actually retarded what the fuck? Go grind English on duolingo holy shit lol. It's sicking to read someone with such tenuous grasp on the English language. Even Mutts can't compete.
>>520742232Remind me what did Soviet Russia win in Germany after losing men, trillions of $ and 44 years?
>>520742296amazing how europe hadnt stolen them yet outrightnothing new however, they have already stolen profits from them (apparently super legal)they will eventually steal them thono one here caredno one will
>>520742232>what did USA winResources and destabilizing the Middle East for themselves and Israel. By removing dictators they removed stable governments and collapsed the economy.The entire region is now run by Islamic terrorists who are dumber than a rock plunging everything back into the stone age.Don't tell me you sincerely believe they bombed the shit out of everything to install democracy? lmfao.
>>520741848aaah, the self-defense invasions. totally justified!oh wait, Russia is doing exactly the same in Ukraine now..
>>520737971They would have lost the whole country had they capitulated to Soviet Union without a fight like we did.
>>520741949that 10:1 ratio never fails to bring a smile on my face
>>520742334>saviors of the white racewhyever would Russia care for the white race?Russians arent white, Russians are Russian
>>520742454The war against the allies and the Soviets, by taking Poland the allies lost the war goal and by breaking apart Germany they well, you see how nowadays Russia is the only sovereign nation in Europe lol
>>520742543going to Vyborg this weekendall smiles!
>>520742642its a soviet shithole, everything russian turns to shit, youre white niggers
>>520742632*and the Axis i meanThey also stole Karafuto for free after all the American efforts the Soviets reaped those benefits kek
>>520742632Russia had to Pull out of Germany, and now Germany is a hostile nation producing weapons used in live combat to kill Russians, it is worse then the defeat of America in Afghanistan
>>520742489> they have already stolen profits from themthis part is a bit weird. there are loans to Ukraine for future profits from those assets, and now all the assets will be given to Ukraine for "future reparations"how can you profit from assets you've given away?
>>520742397>And give up 1/9 of Finland including a major citylosing petsamo and salla wasn't too bad. only about 5k people lived in those areas but the loss of sea access was a pretty big loss
>>520742520Possibly. And then in 1991 when the USSR collapsed newly independent Finland might look like this today.
>>520737971See, the thing is, we aren't Commies and we don't want to be Commies like that "Chay" fellow (what a dumb American name btw).
>>520742520maybe you could do it to? why didn't you fight as well?
>>520742158>You will pay reparations to Ukraine>thats a noYou don't get to dictate terms when you surrender. The longer you keep up this war the worse your surrender terms become.
>>520742711But that's the Soviet union fall, not the WW2One has nothing to do with the other, Soviets fell because not having a great king, happens to all big autocratic empires
>>520742815Just give it a few years. Once russia collapses and balkanizes a lot of liberated territories will want to rejoin their rightful clay.
>>520742851Do you care more about the communism part or being ruled by foreign slavniggers part? This is an important distinction, I believe.
>>520742815It would still be a poor post-soviet shithole just like Ukriane though.Shit, even East Germany is still 30 years behind.
>>520742872so Occupation failed after 20 years is a loss but occupation fail after 44 years is a win? How many years does a failed occupation need to turn from fail to win?
>>520741410> >the halt was atrificial btw, not the maintainence, by closing the damCanal is artificial, letting water pass through was artificial, what you can’t understand
>>520742498> resourcesin Afghanistan? like goats or what?
>>520741729The average russian peasant's life has negative value in the eyes of the Russian state, both under communism and now. Killing them in large numbers would be considered a victory even if they didn't gain any land.
>>520742934They're also the only ones having ethnically German children. Make of that what you will. 30 years tardy to the Kalegri party ain't the flex you think it is.
>>520741562>You will pay reparations to ukraine when you lose the war, there is nothing you can do about, LMAOimagine believing thisliterally imagine thinking this will ever happen
finland didnt get invaded = victory simple as
>>520737971lol they were net gaining territory. Who was the retarded merchant at the time that told the finns to fight russians?
>>520738331Pretty much this. If you give Russia an inch, they will come back in a few years demanding a mile, and then again demanding more and more and more.If you tell them to fuck off and give them a bloody nose, it turns out they leave you alone for a century.
>>520743233>Who was the retarded merchant at the time that told the finns to fight russians?Stalin
>>520743233hitler told to do it after winter war
>>520742642You must be an important individual! Being able to travel in your own country under current circumstances, I hear people can't afford gas there anymore.
>>520742923> Just give it a few yearshow many weeks is that?
>>520742934I think it would be more like the Baltic states. It’s a trade off but it’s arguable that Finland would have benefited. They would have gotten a bunch of land that they would be able to keep after the USSR finally died. Similar to Lithuania.Negative would be a large Russian minority still stuck in post Soviet Finland still causing trouble. And obviously half a century of communism.
>>520743263they were offered more territory retard.>>520738331Ukraine millions of oink sisters would not be dead and disabled. There was no ceding of land eastern part still recognized ukranian. Thats the crazy thing about the ukraine war it was entirely pointless but with big brother jewmerica backing the kosher nazis known as ukranians thought they could ethnically cleanse millions of russians living in the east for a more ethnically jewish russian state turns out it didn't work as planned.
>>520743664Russia has never willingly or permanently given up any claim on any land it might have once owned. Those niggers still think Alaska is still Russian and one day they'll reclaim it from the evil pig dog imperial Americans even though they willingly sold it.
>>520737971>Russia's idea of victory is slowly eating away at its neighbours while making everyone who lives inside their nation sufferif drinking your own piss is a victory, surewhile nations were conquering continents, the USSR continues to try and convince people that being a communist slave wasn't all that bad actually if you ignore all the evidence
>>520742975when you leave entirely at the end of the war - it's a losswhen you occupy land at the end of the war - it's a winshould be simple enough even for american
>>520743615the infrastructure is in horrible condition in most of russian karelia. i even don't want to imagine entire finland turning into a shithole like that
>>520740035to be fair a lot of the "why didn't pootin go whole hog/do more in 2014" arguments miss the fact that the Russian military was more of a mess in 2014 than it was in 2022. It's just that Ukraine was much, much more of a mess and Russian intelligence was relatively realistic about what Russia could achieve and executed effectively. My argument is that purely to achieve strategic goals, in 2014, Crimea, in 2022, purely Donbass. This would have prevented a Ukrainian counteroffensive to reclaim the region (which was in the works, rebels would not have stood without Russian intervention anyways) and prevented the development of petrochemical resources in the area as a counter to Russian energy dominance which was one of the primary realistic strategic goals in Ukraine. But intelligence was overly optimistic and Putin wanted to play map painter/empire builder.The paradox of course is that despite le maidan Russo-Ukrainian economic relations were at a post-soviet high prior to seizure of Crimea and a lot of the industrial disintegration that happened after the fall of the union had been repaired. Seizing Crimea basically guaranteed that they couldn't have all of Ukraine and massively empowered the banderites, who prior to this were ~20% of the Ukrainian population concentrated in the far-west. The entire petrogarch dominance strategy has limited legs anyways since peak oil demand will hit before 2030 and Russia's peak oil moment will be in that time period as well, the easy reserves will dry up and without Western technology, the hard ones will never get exploited. Only the West really has this technology, China has little reason to develop it.
>>520741576>Surrendering to your enemies is a Jewish concept.the russians did invent how to win tho. napoleon and hitler got wrecked by falling for the fake gap.
>>520743758then why do they still recognize eastern part as ukranian? The problem with russians they are not willing to go full anti semitic and genocide their kosher nazis cause the kosher nazis are clearly okay with genociding them for a cleaner state Ukraine. The ironic thing about the last couple of years it exposed jews as being a incredibly vicious racist evil people worse then the actual nazis during ww2 lol. Its insane how they can still masquerade as the victim and multicultural lovers.
>>520737971Finnoids are terrible people.
ukraine was dumb enough to be used as expendable cannon fodder by grudge holding jews in the uk in order to provoke a regime change in Russia.It failed completely and now ukraine will be thrown in the trash like a used condom.To think Putler wanted to cuck out in 2022, but Boris Johnson and rest of ZOG crew stepped in and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. (Comedy gold)Now Russia will achieve total victory, ukraine willl uniliterally and unconditionally surrenderthere isnt going to be a "ceasefire" so london can catch its breaththere isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on Russias borderthe ukraine will become an 'un-marked grave' to the liberal world orderforgotten and buried, like the hundreds of thousands of men it pointlessly sent to their deaththe fate of the ukraine is to be demilitarized, de-industrialized, and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda, inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country after Russia is done smashing it
>>520737971the land finland claimed after 1917 revolution wasn't legitimate anyway
>>520742815That would have been an absolutely horrible outcome.There's a very good reason why Finland eventually put a stop to the no strings attached free immigration deal for the Ingrians, as those fuckers just ended up on leeching on our welfare system at +80% rate.They were previously allowed to come in under the idea that these people are returning Finns, but they were such garbage it wasn't worth it. Basically just Russians used to living on government coin doing fuckall except drinking.Finland getting any land back, would have resulted in such an insane burden of nonexistent infrastructure and a shitton of semi-Russian feudal welfare leeching peasants, that Finland would have gotten royally fucked.Especially considering that in the early 90's we went through a depression that was possibly worse than what US went through in the 30's.
>>520738936The Minsk accords were basically broken by Ukraine too, because it only guaranteed if they remain neutral, which they didn't.
>>520743758> n-no, Alaska doesn't countbackpedalling immediately in the the very next sentence is impressive. at least you have some scraps of self-awareness, I guess.
>>520744433How did Ukraine nor remain neutral? They joined NATO?
>>520744294speaking of welfare leeching, before the borders were closed, in many places food aid lines had to start requiring finnish ids because of the number of russians coming in for free food to resell at a profit
>>520742975You're mixing shit up, Germany capitulated and stopped fighting, the war is over, the Soviets wonThe Taliban never even hinted a capitulation and fought until you guys tired out and fuck off, the moment America was off Afghanistan they took down the government you were building up, training and arming for 20 years in TWO days lol, that's a lossThe Soviet built Afghan government after being abandoned by the Soviets took 2 years to fall, now that's a legit comparison
>>520740350Propaganda story. Read more history, you faggot and leave this place. >>520740846Yes, what a moron.>>520740917Sä et vie ketään saunan taakse vitun heikko hintti.>>520741605Vammanen ajatus. Me hävittiin sota, eikä ne ottaneet silloinkaan, niin miks vitussa ne ois ottanu rauhan aikana, sinä saatanan vammanen?
>>520743775> while nations were conquering continentsyou do know that USSR was bigger than some continents, right? and conquered half of Europe, too.
>>520744563It was muslim and nigger immigrants + illegals. Atleast this was the story in food banks I´ve been volunteering.
>>520737971Why are these retarded russhits still seething about something that happened almost a 100 years ago?
>>520737971they offered lots of undeveloped swamp for main defensive line. stalin tried to pull sudetes on us like hitler. soviets are gay and based czarist mannerheim knew that. modern finland is a cucked shithole raping itself with EU bureaucracy and croynist subhumans in public sector.
>>520744872>russia goodboi russia dindu nuffinI'll just watch the other Finns skewering you with facts, Pekka Pekkanen from Lappeenranta oblast.
>>520744529They clearly tried, it just takes a long time and Russia attacked them before it could be even close to finalized.They also tried and try to join the EU, which recently only Hungary is against it, that would also make them non-neutral.>hurr-durr they should've wait until they actually join in after writing every paperOnly a retard would do that and only a retard would believe someone would be retarded enough to wait it out.
>>520744971Mountain jew lying and twisting my words. Many such cases.
>>520743797So we agree Russia lost WW2
>>520744872where i lived it was russians. immigrants could still get food if they had finnish ids but there were always a few relatively expensive cars full of russians coming in for food. this was near the border though and they stopped asking for ids after the borders closed
Reminder to us all, who were leading soviet union.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8YR9YAsv8
Amount of russkie seething that my tiny country generates is just gloriousRent free
>>520744568What does it matter when the results are the same, Russians were thrown out and the nation is now hostile to the,
>>520745124If you leave out immigrants, muslims and niggers, it tells me that you are lying. ALL foodbanks have had 0% of trouble from these 3 groups. If you dont agree, you are simply lying.
>>520737971The biggest tragedy in world history is that western nations propped up Russia in ww2 and singlehandedly saved them
>>52074525190%, sry.
>>520745107no, we don't.USSR won half Europe at the end of WW2.
>>520745352And USA took every city in Afghanistan
>>520737971benis land been getting to uppity latelyadmiral commissar zigger tovarich, send in the nukes
>>520745278the situation that led to white russia's collapse is even worse. allied command was always in on something. they teach you over and over about russia's economy during WW2 to avoid discussing the 1920 sell out of white russia. when they could have supplied white russia with more then and the 20th century would have been saved.
>>520745251its easier to justify refusing to distributing food to foreigners than citizens
>>520745278>lend lease? never happened stupid NAFO tranny
>>520737971That post is by a fucking idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.Stalin wanted to take out all the defense lines on Karelian isthmus without firing a shot giving him a straight shot to Helsinki and giving useless wilderness in return that he would get back after taking Helsinki.
>>520745396at the end of GWOT (Global War On Terror, when Global = Iraq+Afghanistan, but hey, american edication) USA left on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war. With nothing to show for it. it was clearly, without any shadow of doubt, a loss.
>>520745243That's like saying that Alexander lost the war against Persia because he died and his empire disbanded kekSoviets changed Europe forever, meanwhile Talichads put women back in their place the second murica left
>>520737971question if Luigi Cadorna did managed to win the Twelfth Battle of the Isonzo despite losing the other ones would you still consider him successful?
>>520745609Wait what due Russians have to show for their occupation of Germany? Like I said the country is openly hostile to them and providing weapons that actually kill Russians every day.
>>520745488This is Jew-Erkko and Kabal narrative. I believed this too, when I was in my twenties. "Truth" is much more complex than that,
>>520738432That's fine, but we get Greenland, Canada, Panama, Venezuela, and Nigeria.
>>520745619yeah you could say the Persian empire lost the occupation of Persia, how is that inaccurate? because for people who aren't idiots war and occupation are different terms, and USA won the war in Afghanistan but lost the occupation.
>>520737971>Russia makes an offer to swap a bunch of useless land in exchange for Finland's more strategic land>Finland refuses>Russia invades anyway, just as they would've done if Finland had agreed>only this time they aren't holding that strategic land yet>war rages but Finland is harder to invade than Russia thought>Russia takes some land, more than they "offered" but less than they could've taken if Finland had taken the offer>backs out as it can't do much more>no point re-invading later, they've already got the strategic land and will have no drive to take the rest nowThis is basically what Ukraine is going through. Russia will eventually pull out with the land it could take (less than they wanted, but it'll do), and Ukraine will be protected from further invasions by irrelevance and NATO protection.
>>520745710>Wait what due Russians have to show for their occupation of Germany?are you fucking braindead you faggot nigger /k/ike poster?
>>520745710At the end of WW2 USSR was in effective occupation of half Germany and most of Eastern Europe.it was plenty to show, to be honest.now let's repeat:USSR won WW2
>>520737971>You lose the access to the Arctic Ocean and also main Karelian defense line, but gain a huge area of fucking swamp with no strategic value>You're going to take this deal right? It's more land for you! It's a great deal!<Also, we're going to invade you anyway once you hand over this main defence line but let's no talk about that mmkay?I mean, even the most pro-ziggers on this board can't defend this level of retardation.
>>520742397Nobody calls it a victory here. Sometimes winter war is called a defensive victory (torjuntavoitto) but nobody just says we "won" the winter war. If we had won there wouldn't have been continuation war. Don't even mention marin she's a joke and was never widely popular.That being said op is a dishonest faggot shill and they literally tried to annex the whole country.
>>520746119lmao, instead you lost 5x that + all the people you got killed in the resistance attemptfucking BRAVOtrue 'nato strategist' logic if there ever was one
>>520746022lmao again russiods think a few miles of land is worth millions of dead Russian.
>>520746049again you can't be logically consistent, at the end of Afghanistan war USA controlled the entire country. The occupation was 20 years shorter but they both ended in total failure
>>520745775good luck with that
>>520737971>you vill die fur ze joos and yu vill be happyRus-niggers lost, just like they do with everything else. They lost so hard that when Germany came to rape them they needed daddy america to come save them with the Lend-Lease.>>520739513Why did you post your mutt family photo, faggot?
>>520746191Russians aren't worth much so yea.
>>520740317>but don't act like you have any moral high groundAnon I don't think that after 2020 coof any country on this planet can even talk about any moral high ground. It's just self-interests of the elites ass-fucking the pleb. Same story in every country.
>>520746191lmao, instead, millions of Germans died to LOSE that land kekand from there, Russia can fuck with all of europe london included
>>520745032>you might have joined NATO one day so we were justified attacking you one day!Russians always playing the victim and making retarded excuses for acting like violent drug addicted niggers.
>>520746341>ze joosRECOGNIZE paid shill-kike israeli VOCABULARYKNOW (((their))) VOCABULARY WHEN YOU SEE IT>meme flag>"da jooz" or "da joos" <(spelling)>"shitskin shitskin shitskin">"youre brown brown brown">"brown coded">"thirdie thirdie thirdie">"turdworlders">"meds">"mudslime, muzzie, muzrat etc">"pali(something)" etc>"pallywood" or any bizarre israeli vocabulary dogshit>"ackshully jews are based because they kill muslims!">"arab arab arab">"arguing about 'who's white' 'muh white race' shit and other retarded appeals to being 'white'this is ALL israeli settler kike-speakDONOTENGAGEWITHIT
>>520746280> at the end of Afghanistan war USA controlled the entire countryat the end of the Afghanistan war, USA effectively LEFT the entire country. it didn't control shit as two days later the talibans had everything in their hands. while USA had jack shit.
>>520746441I never said Germany won, clearly the real winner of WW2 was USA, as it integrated the entire military power of Europe into it's own. Russia got played like an idiot and used as cannon fodder just for USA to reap 100% of the rewards
>>520746186I take losing all that while getting +100k ziggers killed any day of the week over getting the Baltic treatment. But hey, at least you proved the last part of my post wrong, kek.
>>520746531So explain how that is any different then Russians how also don't control shit in Germany, the entire purpose of the war was to stop hostility from Germany, yet germen weapons kill Russians right now
>>520745854The pic is fake. They offered only these small areas to the real Finnish government. >>520741803The green area in the OP was offered to Otto Ville Kuusinen's Soviet puppet government. If the latter deal had been taken we would have become completely Communist. The war was unavoidable unless we installed a puppet government.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Democratic_Republic
>>520740000digits of truth
>>520746573This. Not getting occupied for decades by the Russians was the optimal play for Finland. Look at any eastern european country occupied by Russians after WW2 to see an orgy of evidence for that.
>>520746566>Russia got played like an idiot and used as cannon fodder just for USA to reap 100% of the rewardsnigger what?Russia has dominated europe every moment since the end of WW2 and continues to, to this day what the absolute fuck are you talking about?>>520746573>over getting the Baltic treatment.your clown dick pathetic nation is now the slave of brussels for ever welcome to nato!>NO REFUNDS!
>>520746851We don't want to be Communist Russian. You should move there.
>>520746851>Russia has dominated europe every moment since the end of WW2 and continues todelusional Ivan from Ohio oblast
>>520740000Wasted digits. Russia is still communist inbecile.
>>520746682it's very simple:USSR lost the Cold Warso there's no USSR any more.you can win one war and lose the next one. simple as.USA won in Iraq, but lost in Afghanistan. oh, well. shit happens.
>>520746851>Russia has dominated europe every moment since the end of WW2Next you'll talk about how Europeans are the slaves of burgers>>520746897Move to Russia? Why would a Russian patriot do that?
>>520746151"...and they literally tried to annex the whole country."^up to this point everything you said was truth. Then came magic reddit/shill/tranny/millenial word "literally" and you fell apart. Search Erkko and kahal and think again what happened in our wars... If you dont know there words (kahal, Erkon sota), you propably dont know what really happened.Bonus: Eugen Schauman was ukrainian born jew.
>>520746771And russhits still believe that the five decades they raped eastern Europe were in fact beneficial to those countries, and they want to rejoin to become prosperous again.
>>520746975Because russianess is not tolerated elsewhere for their hostile behavior. They really don't much of a future here either. Maybe more so in the US because you are already so much more Communist than us.
>>520746973USA won the Afghan war but lost the occupation. Occupations and wars are fundamentally different and it's funny you can't just admit that.
>>520746191>is worth millions of dead Russian.well why wouldn't they? at least back then they had millions to throw into the meat grinder and a million loss was a line item on a piece of paper.
>>520737971This is the new rusgroid cope? If they nibble some land (when they wanted the entire country) at the cost of 3/4 of their armor and millions of orcs they "won"?
>>520746897You are right and you should also watch the video I posted in this comment so you know where to focus your "anger" about "muh communist Russians": >>520746897
>>520747212>we wanted a puppet regime.>we got an eternal enemy and some swamps.
The USSR did win, it's just embarrassing how much they struggled against a materially inferior enemy with basically no international support.
>>520746480>You will never be European>You will never understand your ancestory>You will accomplish nothing>You WILL burn, juden
>>520737971Stalins goal was full annexation, and based on what he was doing to Russian Finns, full genocide.So yes we won, and humiliated him. It's not complicated, Ivan. Your dozens of times larger nation got embarrassed by failing to conquer one small country.
>>520747212I correct your mistakes. Here are your "russians" you are speaking about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8YR9YAsv8
>>520747118american army LEFT Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.the END of the war is 30 August 2021.Taliban win.USA lost.
>>520737971>fight solo against a country with 100 times of population and which is being supported by the nazi germany they were allied with at the time>manage to fight them standstill so that they have to agree on basically worthless wasteland
>>520747079Lmao. They must know it's pure bullshit, nobody is that delusional.
>>520746851>your clown dick pathetic nation is now the slave of brussels for everBecause being a "free" Warsaw Pact satellite is so much better than being an "enslaved" EU member
>>520747478Stalin and his friend were jews, not Russians. He ws born in Georgia you dumb EU-child. Your history number was 7/10. I can smell it from your writings. Lurk for 2 years and then post again to avoid these mistakes and embarrasment.
>>520742815
>>520741407>green tea Fuck you green tea is healthy
>>520737971I didn't know there was a 'we won' narrative, only that it was important for national mythos because they gave the Soviets a bloody nose despite being so outnumbered and outgunned. A historic event attesting to bravery and fighting spirit despite time not being on there side - and funnily enough, that is the best the Ukrainians can hope for lol. They aren't getting those Oblasts back and time is not on their side so sue for fucking piece, you stupid cunts. NATO soldiers are not coming. Heavily complicit in this is my country, sustained by delusions of a le Churchillian spirit - even though Churchill's ebin spirit was a gambit relying on American aid. Now, America, the UK, or the EU putting armies into Ukraine of their own men is not happening.
>>520747873The mysterious russian soul can both be aware he is lying and believe his lies simultaneously.
>>520740000Destroyed kek
>>520737971It's not about what territory was ceded, but the resistance that was put up in the face of overwhelming odds, risking your life for your homeland. A faggot wouldn't understand.
>>520741304But it's funny
>>520746478>MIGHT have joinedlol you can't be seriousEvery war is illegal and aggressive, but this one wouldn't have happened without USA meddling and Agent Z (and his predecessors) want to embezzle as much from war help as they can.Russians are not saints or innocent, but the leaders knew exactly what they were doing.
>>520738447>The Soviet Union's goal was to overrun all of Europe, including Finland. They would have manufactured a pretext to annex the whole country. When Germany struck, they were able to devastate the Soviets because they caught them just as they were preparing for their Europe-wide mobilization and offensiveAnd this is something most non-Slavic posters don't understand. NATO is not the reason for the invasion of Ukraine; Ukraine's existence is the reason for it. NATO is just a convenient reason they came up with to make the invasion, deaths and overall losses palatable and reasonable, in order to have something to weave a treaty around in the future. If there was no NATO, they would've made something else up as history for them is not a recording of events as they happened, but a tool they repurpose and use as a swiss knife depending on what they need out of it.
>>520747650Soviet army LEFT Germany in August 31, 1994, marking the END of the war is August 31, 1994,USA winRussian lost
>>520741743It's officialRUSSIA IS AFRAID OF FINLANDYou are right to be afraid but you should not have angered the Suomi beast, but instead made efforts to appease them instead.
>>520747885GDP of Poland is bullshit, but the general message is true.Poland before 2004 (absolute shithole) and after 2004 are 2 completely different countries. Poland is still a poorfuck country thanks to the decades of Russian occupation, but even Eastern Germany is a poor shithole compared to Western Germany - after how many years of unification and infinite money getting pumped into it?36 years is not enough to undo the long lasting damage done by Russian occupation.
>>520746897>>520746905>>520746975>>520747885holy fuck, the absolute state of bitch nigger /k/ posters
>>520747857> it was valuable fortified line and our second biggest cityor > they have to agree on basically worthless wastelandmake up your mind, would you?
>>520748097So you would have had no problem with russia attacking Hungary?
>>520747598Shut the fuck up retard. Worst russian crimes against our people were in 1700s without any jews involved. russians are simply niggers that any strongman can whip to attack humans.
>>520748408They have short memories.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956
>>520748374It become worthless wasteland after russia got it.
>>520738331Sucking CIA dick has consequences
>>520748247fucking retarded niggerUSSR died 1991 when it lost the Cold War. at 1994 there was no "soviet" army.
>>520747888Lol and putin is not a jew and modern russia is not controlled by jews amirite?
>>520746748Checked.In digits we trust.
>>520748498Russia is like zergs. They turn whatever land they take into radioactive waste and it takes a lot of effort to clean it.
>>520747953There's no we won narrative. People were cringing here when marin said on interview that we won the war. Basically you have understood it correctly.
>>520748551Oh I didn't realize Russian federation was not successor state of soviet Russia, why do they lie and say they have claim on Ukraine then? Russian federation never controlled Ukraine
>>520737971Such is nature of all subhuman tribes, they take behevolence for weakness and create myth where they won against such real real nations.You cannot be behevolent with them, only through iron hand and brutality can you instill reality check in them, Emperors were lenient with finngols - got enormous myths about weak russians, were lenient with psheks and baltic nigger - same story happened. Russians should have copied germ and anglokike strategy of dealing with minority niggers.Leniency is a mistake.
>>520748798>>520748798As you very well know, russmutt.
>>520737971>offered to FinlandIt starts with an instant lie it was an offering to the finnish communist stalin puppets which were supposed to take over at the end. There was never such offer to the legitimate government of Finland.
>>520748408>You don't care about someone else?>so you wouldn't care about yurself either?Are you retarded?Of course I'd care, but our situation is also different. We are already in NATO, unlike Ukraine.Ukraine is not Hungary's ally. They don't want to become or ally, constantly belittle us and even threathen us.They shit on their Hungarian minority (used as many of them as they could as cannon fodder as they could, outlaw speaking Hungarian, outlaw their schools etc.).Fuck them.They got themselves into this situation, now deal with it.
>>520749085Even though they antagonize us a lot, they still mad that we block them from NATO etc.and the retarded left is like>it's only natural they did those things against us years ago, when we only provide hundreds of millions dollar in humanitarian aid and not in weapons, also because blocking them now!If they don't want to get blocked they could've been nicer.
>>520748718> I didn't realizebecause you're retarded nigger.in 1991 the "soviet army" become "russian army".in 1991 USSR lost and USA won, hurray.Ukraine was created as a country year 1991. as part of USSR 100% of them were speaking russian and even today, 34 years later, 30% of their population identify as russians.
>>520749085But you just said russia was justified in attacking Ukraine because they might join NATO. So you would have been perfectly ok with russia invading you before joining NATO.
>>520749559>Ukraine was created as a country year 1991.1918.>as part of USSR 100% of them were speaking russianThat's just not true.
>>520748352that picture smells gayand jewish
>>520742706>They also stole Karafuto for freeIt’s amazing how much worse WW2 made the world. Hopefully one day all these errors can be corrected.
>>520749879whatever, Hans. import more arabs and buy more american gas. that will teach Putin!
cant wait to see whatever epic 'final frame' closes out the porkroast chapter of the afu-collapseBlaxmutt was pretty coolcould be hard to top
>>520750065>no counter-argument found>resorts to whataboutismRussiaboos are the biggest NPCs on this board.
>>520738331no one asked them to cede landrussia just went and took it like a gigachadthey know these shitters will never ever think of territory trades. only russia and america understand it.
>>520750232> no counter-argumentto> that's just not trueyes, it's true. there's your counter-argument. happy now?
>>520741352wow youre a certified idiot
>>520750634''Yes, Ukrainian and Russian are two distinct languages, not dialects, that differ significantly in pronunciation, grammar, and vocabulary despite both being East Slavic languages with a shared ancestor. Ukrainian has a more "European" grammar and shares more commonalities with Polish, while its pronunciation is softer than the harsher Russian pronunciation. While there is some overlap in vocabulary due to historical influences, they are not mutually intelligible to most speakers. ''Damn the Ukrainians are like night and day from Russians to invent a whole new language and adapt it completely in such a short time.
>>520750634> no counter-argument>to> that's just not trueIf you hadn't pulled that little factoid out of your ass you'd be able to back it up with evidence.
>>520737971>>520737971>>520737971Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990
>>520737971memeflag kike
>>520751087> invent a whole new languagemany such cases.North Macedonia did exactly the same after Yugoslavia was balkanized.
