Can't afford expensive food without SNAP? Why won't you just split the bill with your family/friends and buy a 25kg bag of rice like normal people do in the times of crysis?
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>>520978954because i have a big garden and raise chickens, rabbits and pigs.
>>520978954>just eat chinese peasant food western manNo.
>>5209789541. You aren't an American, so shut the fuck up.2. Not everyone has family or friends willing to do this.3. Rice isn't food. Carbs are poison. Eat shit and die, faggot.
If youre not storing 6 months worth of rice, dried beans, canned meat, olive oil, dried fruits, powdered milk, salt, honey, coffee and sweets of various kinds for when you feel bad, youre not going to make it when shtf.
>>520978954Not the best place to store rice desu
>>520979728You think they will see it from the streer and break my window?
>>520979888Do you know what sun is?
>>520980190I'll eat the window batch before it gets damaged by UV. No worries.
>>520978954I have about 25 kg (50 lbs) of buckwheat for personal apocalipsis, like I got fired and have no money.
>>520978954>Everyone posting about rice>No one showing off their ricePathetic
>>520978954>weevil farm.jpgIs this some kind of dystopian bugfarm shit? No, i will not homefarm the bugs and like it.
>>520980603just put it in the freezer for 3 days after you seal it and the bugs will die.>>520980309i really need buckwheat but it is hard to find here. i tried to grow some but it failed
>>520978954> riceFEED ME MORE MICROPLASTICS.Also why eat rice when you can eat steak.
>>520978954thats rookie numbersi ordered yesterday 500lbs rice
>>520978954>Family/FriendsImpossible, family and friends can't be trusted unless we all have the same beliefs like supporting BLM>Split the billEasy there buddy, that sounds very problematic and border line antisemitic>normal peopleDon't be racist
>>520980583
>>520980812what the fuck does rice have to do with microplastics retard
>>520980738>Eating dead bugs
>>520980812>Also why eat rice when you can eat steak.oh you can't even comprehend the premise of the thread, probably a bot
>>520978954why dont you eat the food of your people? namely buckwheat and rye
>>520979484Then buy a bag of flour
>>520978954Thank you anon, you just gave me a good idea with those mason jars
>>520979487>Carbs are poisonNigger what
>>520981152mason jar pocket pussy?
>>520979484if you are on fucking SNAP you should be grateful you even get peasant food you dumb worthless faggot.
>>520981223Wouldn't really fit in your pocket would it bong. Be sensible
>>520981071If you don't know, you're probably a retard, how about you google the two verbs.Especially cheap rice is ridden with microplastics.Double nigger
>>520978954Who even have friends nowadays for anywhere more than going out to a club or to drink?
>>520981090we shall see who eats ze bugs
>>520981094how about you stop being poor, steak is cheap AF in the US and it's not as expensive as people think as you don't need to eat a kilo of rice to feel full.
>>520981152What were you using instead of glass?
>>520978954Oh here's a thought....STOP GIVING THE MONEY TO ISRAEL.
>>520981369my chickens will eat ze bugs, and give me ze eggs
>>520981432huh, this reply has the flags the wrong way around.
>>520981437mine too
Food is so easy. Just buy meat for 50-75% off on its last sell by date and put it in the freezer. Cook it with some cheap non-protein and spices. Eat a fruit before or after for extra fiber. You will feel full for a long time, lose weight if you're a fatty, and costs are almost third world tier.Level 2: have some big planters in your garden or on your balcony and grow some kale, arugula, pea, other edible green plant mass. Takes care of itself and you can clip some off for every meal most of the year.
>>520981525based, chickens are fun
>>520981288mason jars come in different sizes
>>520978954Based pole
>>520981637Polen zijn meestal best gebaseerd, maar rijst eten is niet de oplossing
>>520979499If you aren't willing to eat people you're not gonna make it
Fuck rice, bread, pasta, etc.Buy LENTILS even cheaper and they actually have nutritional value
>>520981666Eieren zijn een goeie aanvulling, en als ge eigen kippen hebt, zeer goedkoop en leuk en tof enzo
>>520978954run out of buckwheat or did it became too luxury compared to rice?
>>520979487Carbs aren't poison. What the fuck are you on about?
>>520978954because it's not about them actually needing this money to survive.it's just about them being lazy, fat pieces of shit who think they are entitled to stealing from others.
25kg rice 25kg pasta for a metropolitan subsistence diet.
>>520978954You’re a Pole. Your family, friends, and culture have been shaped by hardship. You have to understand that the United States has not had any sort of external, or internal, pressures to unite us, for many years. As a collective whole, we are divided. Making communal plans with each other is going to be FAR easier for you than it will be for us.
Black supreme court justice blocks full SNAP agreeing with Trump Hahaha holy fucking shit
>>520981765>Buy LENTILSthey cost more than double as rice in my country
>>520982536Beans are the best bang for buck when it comes to nutritional value.
>>520981758People are likely very unhealthy, I also dont' think I'd want to eat pajeets, but perhaps if I'm hungry, I'm not against cannibalism desu.meat is meat
>>520983127They are full of microplastics.
>>520978954the siege of Budapest in the winter of 1944/45 and the associated famine gave a number of survivors PTSD so that for the rest of their lives they kept a buffer of non-perishable food e.g. 50 kg of sugar and flour which they consumed in a FIFO discipline. so these people would just have gone and checked that the buffer is of full length when the crisis struck.
>>520984145Smart people. Americans would never.
>>520978954>friends>familyDo people still have these? Women don’t even have babies anymore.
>>520978954why wont you just buy a pressure cooker. imagine cooking rice with 1/3rd the energy of a regular open pan.what a big fake you are
How do I incorporate food like this into my diet when I normally do not eat ANY rice or canned anything besides sardines. I don't want it to just sit there and eventually go bad, but I don't feel like eating spam or canned vegetables
>>520981546>kaletrue. that stuff will happily sit in the garden all winter covered in snow. its a real trooper.
>>520978954I just do what normal people do and dumpster dive and go to soup kitchens. How am I ever going to have money for anything? I'm either getting it free or stealing it. Still waiting on MAID but they keep delaying it for people who are mentally ill here in Canada which is fucking stupid, MAID should be free for anyone that wants it.
>>520984491i can all the vegetables i grow on my rocket stove
>>520979499I'm allergic to beans and will die from eating a few of them.
>>520984541collard greens do better
>>520984760Imagine being so weak you die from a fucking bean.
>>520984739thats a good way to do it for sure. we often use the outdoor fireplace for heating large amounts of water because its just free firewood.
>>520984519make stir fry with some cheap cuts of meat and some veggies. here is a quik sweet n sour sauce>1/2 cup water>1/2 cup vinegar>3/4 cup sugar>2tbsp corn starch >1tbsp ketchup>1tsp salt> mix together and bring to a boil
>>520979487>You aren't an American, so shut the fuck up.you aren't either. you are an indian larping as an american
>>520981372Eating America meat is a death sentence, there's a reason every other country won't take American meat.
>>520981546I live in the forest but only a km away I have a entire community garden with lots of 170 gallon stock containers planted with various stuff. I grew an absurd amount of dwarf saucy mary and thunder mountain tomatoes this year and a little of all sorts of other stuff. Right now it's snowing and so the only stuff I have left is kale.
>>520984991i grow my own meat, i just cut the balls of the males 2 days ago
>>520984760>memeflag>manmade horror allergiesJust post with your real flag. You're not hiding anything.
>>520980583Mine is all in airtight 5 gallon buckets with dessicant in my basement. I can take a picture of the bag in my pantry if you want.
>>520983823Microplastics in everything, Anon. Nothing to be done.
>>520981666waroom spreek jouw mijn taal? Wordt Nederland binnengevallen?
>>520981758Almost everyone has prion diseases though from the injections.
>>520978954>times of crysisBased and 2007-pilled
>>520982375our nigga
>>520981765I'm allergic to the proteins of legumes. I can consume stuff like basedbean oil but not onions protein isolate. All the beans, peas, clover, alfalfa, any kind of legume if it has protein in it I react to it.
>>520981666>Dutch>tolerance and diversity flagAnon, I...
>>520978954Better yet, they could buy some airtight containers and start prepping with bags of rice and beans. A couple extra bags once a month adds up. But here's the thing, pol-bro. These people don't thing ahead. They can't think 5 minutes ahead, they're stupid niggers and single moms. You could give them a go-bag and tell them its only for emergencies, but they would just let their niglets tear through it in 2 days until its nothing but trash.
>>520978954why in the fuck does this toilet cleaner always talk shit about america eating habit...
>>520982174Yeah this Pole has no clue. Everyone in Canada and the USA hates everyone else and it's impossible to get help as a white man. In my own family everyone has a completely different politic one is a neoliberal, one is a communist, I'm a National Socialist, another is dead, and another is a cuckservative. Absolutely everyone hates each other and doesn't agree on anything.
>>520979058Lol. A mediocre, yet only slightly pozzed game. Better times, I suppose.
>>520982375I guess she has nigger fatigue. If I ever reincarnate as a nigger I'm going to do like all the other niggers and just try to kill as many niggers as possible. I'll be like General Buttnaked or General Mosquito.
>>520984229Friends and family are like something that exists in fantasy only.
>>520984770Bullshit. Kale endures far better. Unless you live in Alaska you're south of me so probably say that only because in your climate they can survive winter.
>>520984721We don't have public "soup kitchens".
>>520984820On the other hand I'm the most s 0 y free anon on this entire board, you're all s 0 y b o y s compared to me.
>>520986216its well known that north dakota is colder than alaska
I'm forced to rely on meat and dairy like a real man not a beaner.
>>520981244>you should be grateful economy is such a scam that you have to pretend that people are giving you the lowest tier foodand then people wonder how communists during revolution are so gruesome. Because you acting subhuman like this has to be made right somehow, like cutting out your entire genetic code out of existence because clearly you are a psychopath.
>>520985204Do you use huge amounts of the chemicals on them that most American farmers are forced to use because of the abundance of parasites on the continent?
>>520985531ik ben perplexed door dit ook
>>520986444no, i give them black walnuts from my trees and winter squash from my garden to treat parasites
>>520986217Okay? We have them here because people like me would overthrow the government and cause massive amounts of violence otherwise. Don't you at least have jails where they give free housing and food?
>>520986292Well here it goes -40. Doubt it gets that cold where you are if collared greens survive your winters. Sometimes swiss chard of the white variant will survive but usually it doesn't. Some varieties of kale also don't survive. There's a few though that manage to survive and grow through the winter.
im personally hoarding my piss bottles in preparation for the great collapse
>>520986676Pineapple is also good for killing parasites in meat.I know about black walnuts but didn't know about winter squash.
>>520978954Surely the maga/miga hillbilly segment of snap leeches has a .22 somewhere in the trailer. They need to go hunt squirrels and raccoons until daddy finds it within himself to feed his devoted flock
>>520981071Chinx have a long history of poisoning themselves with everything harmful under the sun (lead, mercury, chemical waste, oil, you name it). Hence why it's important to know the source of the rice. If it's not listed and especially if it's cheap, you run a good chance of them poisoning you too.
>>520978954Do you ever make sauerkraut, thermosbro? I always wanted to make some but I need the right kind of jar.>>520979314Ever thought of raising guinea pigs to eat too?
>>520981220Carbs are poison. Did I stutter, faggot.Eat meat.>>520984961I'm so pale, that if I were living in India, they would worship me as a living god. Might be kinda nice as some pajeetas are pretty hot and have great tits.>>520981960Carbs are poison. Nearly all carbs being sold these days are the bad kind. Even good carbs in excess become poison.I'm mostly a carnivore.
>>520981758Unironically this
>>520981765You should have lentils, rice, baked beans ect. Not just one. You will get tired of eating the same thing over and over. But rice is good because it almost never gets boring to eat. You can pair it with almost anything. Vegetables, fish, meat or even just eat it plain.
>>520978954I make dogshit income and still provide for me and my gf without snap. Even a small paycheck from a 2nd job will buy you food for a few weeks if you're smart with shopping and learn how to cook cheaper foods/what's in season for sale>>520979499Are you assuming you will make it in shtf when all the people that spent thousands on guns and ammo come knocking for those rice and beans you valiantly stored?>>520980812Beef economy is in the shitter right now (ignoring organ meats which are goated) and I live in a cattle state. I don't even buy ground beef anymore, just liver.>>520984519If you take basic culinary classes like French cooking for a while you'll pick up basic skills that apply to pretty much everything for making all foods edible and extends into Creole/Cajun American cooking. Might be able to substitute classes for free education if you start watching cooking videos, Julia Child and Jacq Pepin were my first inspirations for taking classes so see what your local uni or town offers. I'd say Babish, Townsends, and Max Miller are worth watching. If you get a job in a kitchen, especially an upper class place, you learn skills for free while also getting paid to be there, I served rich snobs for years coming from nothing and it's about as good as it gets for a modern peasant if you can take the stress and abuse>>520985204Based hog enjoyer, love some hogs
>>520987327I prefer fermented brine pickles.
>>520987561>even just eat it plain.really?
>>520987576>from a 2nd jobHuh? Do Americans really?
>>520987597Yeah but i wouldn't advise it for long periods of time. Baked beans for example are nearly a complete food but rice lacks proteins. You need to add fish, chicken or some type of bugs like OP is growing with his rice....
>>520984491>Pressure cookerI use this frequently and have been living in constant fear for years.
Fuck yeah Rice.
>>520981546>but meat on last Best Before day for 50% offEveryone is doing that now. You need to be in the store pretty early to get that deal. Me, I'll be shooting my meat this year.
>>520987781i think he just adds stolen hot water and calls it good.>>520987787relax anon. dont fear the pressure cooker.
>>520979487>Not everyone is willing to do this.>Rice isn't food. Carbs are poison.Then you're not hungry so stop whining.
>>520985326yeah but some things contain more than the other. It's like niggers, they're everywhere, but you can avoid them. That's why I don't live in the city.
>>520986913based
>>520987216rare based brain using chad american detected. Refreshing to have someone share knowledge instead of just being mad.
>>520984145Yeah, it's been weird to see that entire post- great depression, emmigrated from eastern Europe in the 20's mentality just disappear on the Canadian prairies. Used to be everyone had coffers of food here. Now very few and less every year do. Everyone just runs to the store every day. The women being in the workforce is probably why that is.Things will get bad here quick when shit goes pie shaped. Surprised there isn't more cattle rustling yet, but I'm assuming that'll be next year.
>>520987576>PicrelI am picturing finding an arm hair in my food and this guy pretending he doesn't know exactly where it came from.
>>520987989There are no "niggers" in my city. Just saying.
>>520987379carbs are not poison though, you just don't eat them for 50% of your meals as the government tried to shill since the late 80s.The fact that carbs in the supermarket are often shit doesn't mean that all carbs are bad, I avoid them though.
>>520978954This is an awful way of storing rice.
>>520984491Or a simple electric rice pot, that's good for making every meal imaginable?So little energy you can run it on a 2000 watt solar system without bottlenecking the entire system. You do have a solar setup, right anon?
>>520988184for now.That kinda points out your city is barely a city, and I am pretty sure you're lying, I grew up in the netherlands in a town of less tha 2000, and we had turkish invaders.
>>520986426die
>>520987970Once a year someone blows themselves up here in my cunt.
>>520988213I want themto see that I have food.
>>520988126The body hair is the secret ingredient to French cooking, why do you think no one noticed the rat in Ratatouille?
>>520978954AHA SO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A FOOD SCARCITY CRISIS AND NOT COMPLETELY FINE AND NORMAL!
>>520988247pressure cooker is way better. i keep meaning to change the house over to a solar/wind system but am too lazy to do it. power outages dont really bother us though because we run a woodstove and propane for the cooker. every other fucker cranks up noisy generator 24/7 soon as the power goes out though, which is annoying.
>>520978954just make sure your rice is from spain, greece or italy and not some asian country; otherwise you will probably be consuming microplastics and all kinds of bad stuff along with the rice itself
>>520981220It's a retarded contrarian magatard opinion.
>>520988349its pretty hard to manage that. you have to be extremely careless seeing how many release valves they have. even my $1 yard sale pressure cooker has 3 ways to depressurize itself.
>>520985800This. The disparity even amongst the purebloods when it comes to moving forward/preparing for what one must believe/know is inevitably coming (if you fought so hard to not get clotshotted) should tell everyone how on-their-own they're going to be when Great Depression 2.0 makes money worth absolutely nothing.
>>520988415because you're all about showing off and getting attention. thats why youve been making these threads for so many years.
Rice is trash I would rather die
>>520978954Rice? Why not lentils or buckwheat, it's much better
>>520978954>storing food in intense daylight in front of the warm windowlol
>>520988736All of them and beans.>>520988665To prove that I'm not a bot?
>>520981372>stop being poordoesnt work for everyone. Some peopld in society have to be poor. For everyone who stops being poor, there will be someone else who can't. That person stops being poor? Then the first person can't.Also no the fuck steak is not cheap in the US
>>520986093>Nazi flag>no friendsyeah that checks out. I love my buddies.
>>520987561true. Checked.
>>520988486I don't know, the $40 rice cooker I got the wife makes perfect rice every time and all you do is match the lines and turn it on and further about it. Plus it'll keep the rice, or any other food you put in it, perfect for days with zero maintenance on your part.I use the pressure cooker for hooch.
>>520978954Because more than Indians should be able to afford food. Orphans exist without anyone to trust. Should we just kill these that cannot find genuine cooperation? Or just outcompetes them into homelessness?
The butcher I've been going to just started selling locally bread and kept beef ribeyes for $8-10 for 2.2 lbs. They are not as good as Irish or American beef (fattier) but still are pretty good. I just wanted to share that.
>>520987977You don't have expensive medical system so you wouldn't care that eating poison literally more threatening and dangerous long term than just starving every week or stealing clean foods
>>520989092Won't this make the entire population more cooperative in the long run?
>>520989190>staples that built human civilization are secretly poisonJews really did a trick on you.
>>520989121They are selling 660lb steers on the hoof here for $3600. $10/lb if you want to put that in your freezer by buying it, shooting it, gutting and skinning it and bringing it to the butcher for processing. Things are not even close to getting bad here or everywhere else yet.
>>520988830Do you keep canned food like stew too? It seems that their quality is falling, especially fish ones are the worst. It's also good if you make your own jar-salted peppers and tomatoes
>>520978954>Can't afford expensive food without SNAP?Can't afford any food. All the paychecks from both of my jobs go to paying rent, electric, water, cell phone, car, washing clothes, etc. I'm literally living off a credit card, potatoes rice and beans.
>>520988828Also not exactly a dry location, what with the plants needing to be watered and window morning dew. Pretty sure he's not this retarded and he's just posing click bait. Lol
>>520978954>SNAPoids ever sharing anythingYou're talking about people that would shoot their cousins for the last chicken nugget
>>520989369That's good, and you get all the cuts and organs. If I had a freezer I would buy half a cow.
>>520989390Only canned fish. Everything else dry in glass jars.
>>520989340These staples were originally invented to feed a slave underclass thobeit.
>>520989672Really? I thought they were"invented" to feed everyone.
>>520979728"Underneath the houseplants" is beauty itself. Fluctuating humidity, heat, and sun. This is going to end with OP running naked in the streets screaming allegiance to Ganesh once it becomes ergot rot sake.
>>520989369that sounds expensive as fuck for labour intensive results.I guess it's fine for those who are not lazy, but it's far from good.
>>520978954Niggers on SNAP live off a balanced diet of HFC, s0i fillers, and steak. If you have ever seen a EBT cart you would understand. 10 boxes of sugar cereal. Tons of bags of cookies, chips, soda, and frozen food. Then once they throw in 400 bucks of processed slop they go to the meat section and buy steak. It really is quite astonishing how you could spend 500 bucks in a grocery store and you don't put a single fruit or vegetable in the cart.
>>520989725Well, you thought wrong.It's not even a controversial opinion, laws that enshrined a low-carb, high-protein diet for the aristocracy were on the books up till the start of the 20th century.
>>520982375Did the illiterate nigger check the wrong box.
>>520980738Look up polish stores in your area they carry a lot of slav adjacent staples like buckwheat and herring
>>520988347no you, cancer
>>520984939You know you can just use tomato paste, vinegar, and raspberries cooked in it then had in some salt/pepper right? That way you don't need to add a bunch of sugar and more sugar from ketchup.
>>520989815Is this why they were so fat? Nigga, staples are stables because everyone ate them.
>>520989390Savealot got rid of several cases of canned clams marked down to 50 cents. I bought a bunch of them so on special occasions I make clams marinara. They expired in August but they still taste really good. It's a rare treat to have any kind of fish.
>>520978954>Can't afford expensive food without SNAP? Why won't you just split the bill with your family/friends and buy a 25kg bag of rice like normal people do in the times of crysis?Because rice is almost nothing but starch and very little else. You couldn't live exclusively on that, at least not indefinitely, as you'd be lacking in many essential nutrients.
>>520987327>Ever thought of raising guinea pigs to eat too?I hear Yorkshire Terriers are good eating.
>>520989815i did the low carb shit to the point i almost died but a handful of rice wont
>>520990114I discovered tomato powder recently.
>>520990114would wild blackberries work?
>>520989725to feed everyone who didn't have food before. Upper classes kept eating actual food.
>>520987787>>520987970Go to YouTube and type "pressure cooker". My sister bought me an induction hot plate for Christmas a few year back and it's my goto cheap cooktop. Precision temp control and a timer to auto shut off
>>520981765most starches are nutritionally complete save for vitamins a, c, d,, and b12. there is a reason that every civilization that has ever existed has been fed on starches. lentils are great, but so is rice, corn, millet, amaranth, beans etc etc. so to complement your starch you need a small amount of veg with vitamin c, and a small amount with vitamin a. so a small serving of carrots and cabbage, which are both dirt cheap. it takes decades to run out of b12, but if you feel better get some tablets and take one once a month. they usually have 10000x the rda in one pill so even that often is most likely overkilland lentils are very high in protein in comparison to rice. some people have kidney issues and the extra protein is hard on the kidneys because excess protein is very acidic. you only need 5-6% of your calories to come from protein. and there is also no need to mix and match for "complete proteins", the idea is nonsense and came from a 70's diet book. the author has since disavowed the idea herself in recent printings. so to take an example from the foods you mentioned, pasta with tomatoes gives you everything except d and b12. you can live on a diet like this and not just survive, but be healthier than most people you know. cutting out excess protein and oils makes you feel like a million bucks, and i say this as a former keto and carnivore fag.https://youtu.be/_KvyAylxBkQbut i do agree that lentils are great, i love them myself, and they are pretty cheap too. but i eat mainly giant bowls of rice with goy sauce and raw chopped cabbage and carrot on top. i love this and eat it every day, i never get sick of it. and as this anon says>>520987561you can pair it with all kinds of things, or just eat it on its own. chopped apples and pineapple with some cinnamon and sugar is amazing. it's like eating a big bowl of pie filling kek
>>520990589But I've been using mine for 5-6 years, I know how to use it, I'm just afraid it's gonna explode for some reason. >My sister bought me an induction hot plate for Christmas a few year back and it's my goto cheap cooktop. Precision temp control and a timer to auto shut offI've been thinking about buying one but I have both gas and electric at the moment, are they energy saving?
>>520978954You're assuming the ghetto creatures complaining about SNAP/EBT actually know how to cook plain rice.
>>520984760pythagorean detected
>>520985323Yes, I want. Post it
>>520978954wtf are you still on hereshow grandma's mug
>>520990612I completely disagree. also>The WHO
Jesus literally uses a parable about God killing a guy who hoards food
>>520987216>>520988104that's why you buy european rice
>>520990907read the thing about the oil lamps again
>>520978954Rice is nice
>>520989506American butcher service is scum bags. They charge a enormous amount and the end result is you spend 5k and maybe save 200 bucks on meat but then you have to store it. Some places are worse. It's a trade that is going away and those who still do it will gouge the fuck out of those who don't have the means to. I know a guy who was crazy enough to do it in a suburban area in his garage and the end result was making his entire property smell, blood stained driveway, and had to emergency buy a second outdoor freezer lmao. He saved a lot of money but all the bitching and even cops showing up to ask him wtf he was thinking wasn't worth it. They told him of he did it again he could get public nuisance and environmental fines. There is a reason why hunters I'll process and bag meat in the woods - then hump it back to the truck and dump it in to a ice chest. Shit is messy and most Americans can't do it in a way that's worth it.
>>520990907Jesus was hanged for left-wing terrorism.
>>520990612Chart looks like a bunch of lies to me. >Plant always meet protein needs>Animal foods produce protein burdenABSOLUTE KEK>Lettuce 40% protein>Spinach 51% protein>Skim milk 39% protein>Whole milk 21% protein>Cottage cheese 68% proteinCOME ON.... Nobody is going to eat pounds of lettuce and spinach like a cow.
>>520990953Lmao the oil lamps one is about being prepared with goodwill, not fucking olive oil retard, it’s about wisdom. The one where God kills the hoarder is literally just a warning not to be a selfish piece of shit, by hoarding food
>>520990547Any fruit that is easily made into jam. The result sauce won't be as sweet but I recommend you cut added sugars as much as you can. I went 3 years without touching added sugar and that 95% lindt dark chocolate started tasting like 45%. Break sugar addiction by not adding it to anything and not eating anything that has it added. Something I picked up on doing in the states was I read every ingredients label before I put it in the cart. Sounds dumb but it trains you to understand what you are buying and you start to notice things and say "wtf is this"
>>520991080What if they sell it to you already butchered?
>>520991402tomorrow is St Martin I will give plenty of my chocolate away
>>520991529>>520991080I mean not into cuts, but like a cleaned up up half a cow and you just have to cut it into steaks and pieces yourseelf.
>>520991456the only food i buy is salt, oil, sugar, flour, whole grains, vinegar and cheese. i produce everything else myself. i produced this entire plate
>>520989070you can cook everything in a pressure cooker, not just your faggy rice, and way quicker using less energy to do it. even our old hens and roosters cook up tender as can be.
>>520991529People shop around I'm the states. Local cattle farmers that self-slaughter/process that you know are the best bet and you just buy bulk meat. The only way you buy the whole animal and its worth is if you can butcher. Depending on how much of a monkey you are you can just watch a youtube video then cave man the carcass and mangle yourself up a bunch of malcut steaks and shit. That is actually what I would do lmao. 600 lbs of stew meat. Who cares.
>>520979314>because i have a big garden and raise chickens, rabbits and pigs.you mean a farm???
>>520991694It's polish independence day.
>>520991752If you get the half the cow skinned, fully bled, and all organs removed than that's grand. As I said though the full process of killing and processing is not in the picture for most people. Imagine offloading a cow in a suburban area, shooting it in the head in your front yard, then chaining and hoisting it up on a rig in your garage or a tree and then bleeding, gutting, and fully processing. You would have your neighborhood screaming at you.
>>520991080>>520991529i take fat hogs to be butchered every year. to have the meat cut and wrapped in paper is $0.59/lb wrapped in paper and $0.89 vacuumed sealed, and thats dressed weight (after butcher/wrapping). plus their is a $35 kill fee/govt tax. i pay about $140/hog for butchering. curing the meat cost more but i do it myself. picrel is my homemade salo, i even grew the dill, garlic and pepper flakes
>>520991963no, farms have tractors and big fields and sell their produce, i dont do any of that
>>520991772That looks good. Looks like you made it on the homesteading plan.
>>520992106What state?
>>520978954Because instead I split the bill with my family for a whole cow to last us the year through.
>>520989070I think his name is Sanjeeb and I'm pretty sure he shat in the pot.
>>520989070and for some reason captcha just callod you a yahoo
>>520978954it will get infested by bags and you will have to through it away
>>520988903Chicken, Pork, even fucking lamb is cheaper than beef, there are plenty of alternatives
>>520978954You are a legend, King.
>>520992187relax I'm not from farm taxation department.
>>520992321forgot pic
>>520982631You would still need fatty fish, beef liver and dark leafy greens to make up for the vitamins it’s missingAnd still need fruit on top of that as well(Water / exercise, too of course to state the obvious)
>>520978954I don't really get it. You can eat bland stuff made at home for a month or two. Even now, it's still very inexpensive and easy to make. Not the greatest nutritional value, but a pack of ramen is still only 30something cents. Anyone can afford rice and canned vegetables and beans.
>>520992078Yeah in suburban america maybe but I bet rural peeople do that all the time, but I get what you mean. I think there was a story of some Bulgarians butchering a pig in NY and people called the cops or something lol. >>520992106Very based fren. Salo is king, I buy it from my friend who raises pigs. I like it with a seasoning called Kaiser, at least that how they call it here.
>>520993012People won't die of any deficiency within a year.
>>520990547picking those is illegal in the netherlands
>>520992602This is why our great great great grandpappys kept livestockDuck farmsChicken farmsGoatsA standard chicken farm will net you eggs and meat for lifeAnd chickens are a high sodium fat.But raising chicks is illegal most the time inside city limitsSo if it is where you are, start looking for more rural living
>>520992276Missouri
>>520993516Those chickens are illegal in the cities for a reason.Those city chicken are the ones that commit some of the most heinous and sinful.acts known to man.That's why those poor Jewish guys have to swing them around and then execute them.. to save us all from all that unrepentant evil.
>>520993602Kansas here, former Missourian, Howdy neighbor! Enjoying the north winds this fine Sunday morning?
>>520978954Entitlement: "I'm entitled to eat whatever I want to eat, not whatever I can afford."and laziness: "boiling water is hard so I have to buy branded processed microwave foods that are more expensive and less nutritious"
>>520993810>mp4 top kek
>Imagine not having some vegetables in your garden no matter small>Imagine not canning>Imagine not having some fruit/berry/nut shrubs>Imagine not fermenting >Imagine not having a stockpile at all fucking timesPeople have been living way too good for way too long. Whenever my grandma talked of her childhood, she talked about the Bad Time and what they had to eat. Having food available is like your primal function as a human being after shelter. Anyone who thinks that our current system would/could/should never fail deserves to hunger.
>>520993890>boiling water is hardKek this, nobody ever told city slickers that a watched pot never boils, so they sit there torturing themselves staring at it waiting for it to boil instead of fucking off for a few minutes to do something else instead of Hawthorne effecting the water
>>520994081Maybe their flame is to small? Switch to the larger one and use the pot cover.
>>520993247>like it with a seasoning called Kaiserim gonna make the whole belly into salo next time. i will look into the seasoning. i guess hungarians make it with paprika., im gonna make that also
>>520990883who cares if you disagree? personal incredulity is not an argumentad hominem is not an argument eitherwe know through various means how much protein is needed. you would know this if you watched the video. you would also know that excess protein is the driver of many of today's chronic illnesses, which only the rich used to get. these illnesses are unheard of in rural 3rd world places where mostly everyone eats a single starch as 80-90% of their calories. these same people are much better off healthwise than their urban counterparts.one thing to notice is that human milk is only around 5-6% protein, and that is to make a small baby into a much bigger baby as quickly as possible. it is mostly sugar and fat.also take american blacks, who have lupus in huge amounts, it is almost thought of as a black disease at this point it's so common. their diet is high in animal fats and proteins. in africa, lupus is basically unheard of, and only among the rich. >>520991269more personal incredulity, along with some top tier reddit spacingi guess if you say >absolute kekthen you don't need to come up with an argument, or even tell me why you think this is wrong. good strategy. >muh pounds of lettucedo people eat pounds and pounds of meat at ever meal? what are you on about? what a retarded straw man, shame is the only thing you should feel for a long, long time after posting that kinds of crapthere is no need to eat "pounds and pounds" of lettuce, as you only need 5% of your calories to come from protein. all it does is make new hair and fingernail cells, replace muscle cells. it does not provide energy unless the body turns it into sugar, aka CARBS. your cells run on carbs. your brain runs on CARBS. when you are starving your brain eats your muscles and makes CARBS for your brain. the cells in your muscles run on CARBS. your need CARBS to make atp, which is energy. and you get as much as you need from rice only, burgerwit
>>520978954is there a way to ban/hide/delete poster by IP/ID? this polish fag is getting on my nerves. literal definition of shitposte
>>520995252This is roughly the ingredients, a good fenugreek is essential btw. Grind it to a powder if you can.
>>520979314>>520981369>>520981576>>520984491>>520987787I want to try pressure canning some red cabbageanyone got tips ?
>>520989760It is expensive. 6 years ago it was half that for 1000lb steer. But it's nowhere near as bad as it's going to get, because current prices haven't even trickled down to the store yet, and they have stupid people selling everything, and failing to do the thing that keeps farms alive through the lean years: holding back for next year. If mad cow hits next spring (my family lived through it in Ireland in the 80's and in Canada in the 90's) the small rancher is finished in this country forever.
There is no cheap rice that doesnt have folic acid added to it which is a completely man-made synthetic chemical that does not occur in nature and is not metabolized properly in up to 40% of white people. Its suspected to cause cancer and who knows what else. Who knows if it blocks receptors from taking in real folate, and who cares, apparently
>>520990612go back to india sukamanshit jeet
>>520995732Are you retarded? Pregnant woman need folic acid during pregnancy.
>>520990883Its a limp wristed shit eating jeet pushing vegetarian faggotry. ignore it
>>520991804You fucking retard, read the fucking posts before you type.If it can pressure cook RICE, it can pressure cook anything.If you're stupid enough to buy a simple rice pot, you deserve to eat the plastic the rice is filled with.
>>520995898Youre retarded. It is literally an unnatural man-made form of vitamin b9 and its strongly linked to cancer and isnt even metabolized properly with MTHFR genetic mutations Its only used because weve been doing it for 60 years and our society is run by retarded jews who don't give a fuck about anything but profit
>>520978954> Can't afford expensive food without SNAP?Food is not expensive. Check out ALDI!
>>520995656>pressure canning some red cabbagefor what? just make sauerkraut, if you pressure can it will turn to mush. you can just water bath it probably >>520995524those are almost the same ingredients i used in my sausage except it had fennel seed instead of fenugreek
>>520990856
>>520978954They already paid full SNAP benefits you disgusting poor animal. We don't need to eat like disgusting poor poles
>>520992321Anon, your captcha is talking to you, not me.
>>520978954rice is bad for you
>>520996083>for what? just make sauerkrautwant to see if it lasts 5 years
>>520996083Based, classic good combo. I've always wondered why that Kaiser seasoning is so good on pastrami and salo and it turns out its the fenugreek. Very underrated ingredient.
>>520978954You expect niggers to be non-retarded?
>>520995732synthetic vitamins aka supplements are mostly very bad for you with some exceptions, they are not all the same. idk about folate in particular but this happens with many artificial vitamins, they overload the receptors and block the real thing from being absorbedhttps://youtu.be/cdpmnmAlCX0>>520995855check>>520995997if you are so right then why can't you debate me one on one? you scared of a vegetarian? this whole thread is about how to eat cheap when meat is so expensive. if you can't handle that like an adult i don't know what to tell you. >limp wristedmuscles come from exercise, not from eating meat. some of the most muscular creatures on earth are/were vegans. >i'm angry at vegetables and that means you need to stop talkingnoniggers always get mad when you threaten to take away their chikin. pic related, it's you
>Eating seedsLol>Eating glyphosate puddle grain from some oriental nation that seasons their field with heavy metalsLMAOWhat retard niggers will do to avoid eating red meat and organ meat and eggs
>>520996315>5yrsit wont. to preserve that long you would need to use vinegar and salt and after 5 years it would be terrible
>>520978954>putting it where the sun can touch it\ngmi
>>520995308>it does not provide energy unless the body turns it into sugar, aka CARBS. your cells run on carbs. your brain runs on CARBS. when you are starving your brain eats your muscles and makes CARBS for your brain. the cells in your muscles run on CARBS. your need CARBS to make atp, which is energy.Yeah and you can do that with protein, it's called gluconeogenesis. You don't need carbs really. >Noooo you'll die without carbs and sugarhow retarded are you?
>>520996576>to preserve that long you would need to use vinegar and salt and after 5 years it would be terribleyou are not helping
>>520995308>and you get as much as you need from rice only, burgerwitugly assed chink detected
>>520996456https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/information/five-major-poisons-inherently-found-in-animal-foods/heavy metal contamination of plant foods is nothing in comparison to the load you get from meat, esp organ meat and eggs. the breast milk of american eskimos and canadian inuit has enough of a toxic load to be classified as hazardous wastehttps://www.forksoverknives.com/wellness/extreme-nutrition-the-diet-of-eskimos/>>520996652>Yeah and you can do that with protein, it's called gluconeogenesis.that is exactly what i was describing> You don't need carbs really.yes you do. your brain runs on carbs. even when ketosis is induced, the brain only takes up about 14% of the ketones and the rest is still glucose, the fuel your body runs on.ketosis is something we have for adaptability to extreme environments. it is very unhealthy long term, as i found out.https://youtu.be/BjPFuwPUI-cboth guys that run this channel are ex-keto guys who were also weston a price foundation followers for years. fat decreses insulin sensitivity. you eventually end up storing fat in all your muscle tissues, organs, etc. you look like wagyu beef on the inside. sugar, on the other hand, reverses type 2 diabetes while fat causes it. doctors have been using high carb diets (kempner rice diet, oatmeal diet) to reverse type 2 diabetes for over a century. >how retard r u?not really at all. this is exactly what happens. this is why your body sacrifices muscle in order to make glucose for your brain.all the studies show that the majority of weight loss on keto is waterweight, followed by muscle loss, and some bone loss as well from the high protein consumption. fat loss comes in last place. keto will also ruin your metabolism long term. many people that did keto and switch to high carb, low fat low protein struggle to lose weight for 1-2 years while their bodies learn to adapt. paradoxically eating an excess of carbs leads to weight loss.
>>520978954It's hard to feel bad when most of these people would be buying soda, chips, and candy. There are many who even agree SNAP is a subsidy for corporations and are fine with it.
>>520997491>sugar, on the other hand, reverses type 2 diabetes while fat causes>>520997491>paradoxically eating an excess of carbs leads to weight loss.everyone needs to understand this chink is dangerously stupid
>>520997384>ugly assmy ass is splendid>chinknopethe only argument i get is one liner insults suggesting an incorrect ethnicity. your side is looking really bad right now. being more rude and more self assured than someone else doesn't make you right. it just makes everyone tired and sad that you exist
>>520997640insults are not arguments. do you have any knowledge, research, or even educated opinions on why this is so?type 1 diabetics know that all they need to do to lose weight is to inject themselves with less insulin and keep their blood sugar higher. when the body is in a caloric deficit, it gets panicky and starts to put on weight.humans are also very poor at making fat from sugar. on the other hand, eaten fat must first be stored as fat before being used by the body for energy.
>>520997225alright here is how to pressure can cabbage.pack cabbage in jars add 1 tsp salt and put lids on finger tight. place jars in canner and add water a quarter of the way up the jars. put canner lid on, once the canner has vented 10 minutes apply pressure at 10 pounds for 20 minutes. let canner completely cool before removing pressure weight.have fun with your mush
>>520978954You're thinking like an Eastern European. We're talking about Amerifats. If they don't get their double creme cookies they go feral.
>>520997491>He doesn't even read the articles he posts, just googles headlines and posts said headlineslmao
also this is my lunch, im going to put it on rice after i bake it. its sweet potatoes and thai chilis
>>520998308>Early reports describe these people as looking beautiful and athletic when they were young, but then they aged quickly, and "men and women who appeared to be 60 or over were rare."i dub thee sir sean cooneryi did carnivore for years, i know all the arguments. even that retard psychopath polar explorer that changed his name and abandoned a whole crew to their death said that the carnivore diet kills you fasterthe other big proponent was the guy who made all the lsd for the grateful dead, owsley stanley. he is also mentioned in the book about laurel canyon and the cia. see? i can do guilt by association too!
>>520978954nie trzymaj tego na słońcu byku
>>520998650Zjem to zanim się zepsuje byczq.Every day until it is gone.
>>520998308>People living in this part of the world use the "green lure" (the dollar bill)Really putting those.creative writing classes to use.
>>520998613Yeah I've done high carb also for years. I felt like shit and was fat.
>>520978954I cannot eat rice, I have prediabetes.
I literally eat eggs and rice all the time, and now I am learning it's poor people food? No wonder I have so much money left over.
This one's always good for a laugh, and getting the bootlicking clotshotted retards to show their colors. When you get hungry, eat the rich. It really can't make things any worse.
>>520999304Well, good news, apparently eating more rice and carbs will heal your diabetes. Don't forget to chase it with some sugary drinks.
>>520999407Even I know that's bullshit, slav.
>>520979058Maximum Lulz
>>520999508Not according to some people ITT.>The more carbs you eat the more weight you lose.>It's just science.
>>520999690Do you have a source to back that up?
>>520978954You know, call me crazy, the richest nation on earth shouldn’t have people who need to share a bag of rice, despite having jobs at a company worth hundreds of billions of dollars. The average American lives on $30,000 a year. That’s fucking INSANE.
>>520999790This guy>>520997491 has. Ask him.
>>520978954Just pour some water and nuruk into those jars, place them in a warm, dark room for two weeks and you've got yourself some delicious makgeolli.
>>520991456This anon knows. We even put sugar in our medicine. Our fucking medicine...
>>520997491most insufferable post in a shtf thread quite an achievement rajesh
>>520978954>>520978954who the fuck store rice in a window?
>>521001157Ain't nothing wrong with that if you eat it every day bro.
>>520999239so you did something poorlywhat were you eating? if you were eating free fats this will happenalso if you have a history of calorie restriction or keto, like me. i am not losing weight after several months and became sure that it would not work for me. but this lady here had the same issue because she did the same things i did. after a couple of years she all the sudden started losing weight. i remember there is a carnivore diet woman who had the same issue, she did the diet for years before losing weight. anyways, she has a masters in human nutrition and does a really informative channel. she eats tons of fruit all day every day and does not get fat from it. and before you say exercise, excerisce is proven to be the worst way to lose weight. it's good for you in other ways, i don't discourage it, it just doesn't help you lost weight very much. your brain uses more energy (glucose) in most cases.>>520999304look into the kempner rice diethttps://youtu.be/_WCzg1Ca1Dwhigh carb diets have been used since the times of the ancient egyptians as the video shows.kempner had an almost 100% success rate in curing type 2 diabetes with rice, fruit, table sugar and fruit juice. sugar increases insulin sensitivity. don't believe me? then google that phrase and see what you gethttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/if4NvWTlt2I?feature=share
>>520978954>displaying your larder for all the neighbors to seeballsy move in times of crysis 3 hunter edition
>>521001688No, I lost weight and fat after doing keto. High carb sucks, it made me feel bad, and my back and joints hurt.
>>520999690i never said thisnow you are straw manning mehigh estrogen detected>>521000741ah, more non-specific and vague insults, as well as calling me indian. that sure is witty and clever.no argument to be seenyou're right, poor people should all eat ribeyes all day, what was i thinking. people will die because they opted to store the wrong food. you don't need much more than rice and some sources of vits a and c. many people are worried about their families being fed properly now what with all the economic woes, much less when shtf. educating people about what they need vs want is very important in this regard. you are actively hindering and harming your fellow man, and you think you are clever for doing so. you will die from trying to hunt for meat, it doesn't have enough fat in most cases. natives used to starve all the time from high protein diets with no fat, it's called rabbit starvation. the diet of the north american natives in most cases was about 80-90% starch, just like everywhere else in the world. corn, beans and squash. meat was more catch-as-can and sporadic. not a reliable food source, hence the only semi-nomadic nature of most tribes. if you look at the ira guys in the 70's who died in a hinger strike, you see that they died from low body fat, not low protein. nobody dies from low protein, it doesn't happen. you don't need protein shakes, powders and bars etc. absolutely superfluous. it's like soaking your backseats in gasoline after the tank is full because gas is awesome and makes you go fast. it must be a good idea! so in order to survive, you need ENERGY. your body uses CARBS for ENERGY. is this getting through yet? protein does not give you energy very efficiently, it is not meant for energy, it's for repair. if your house doesn't need repairs, does it make sense to nail random boards all over it because "more boards means better"? in the same way, you don't need tons of protein. it gives you arthritis too.
>>521002494>i never said thisthis u?
>>521001939what were you eating on high carb?>keto you lost mostly muscle and gylcogen bromigowhen you go to high carb you get your sugarwater stores back in your muscles like God intended. this is about 5-10 lbs for most people, so about what, 2-4 kg?
>>520979314American SOVL. I weep as a swarthy poor brownoid with no land, money, or hoes.
>>521002606i did make that statementbut...those are not the same statements.you are twisting words. sad. i even posted someone with credentials (both university and nice body) speaking about this. but you ignore it because you think that having less decency than me makes you the victor.
>>521002639>what were you eating on high carb?The things you posted, legumes and potatoes and rice and veggie>you lost mostly muscle and gylcogen bromigoI lost fat, love handles and belly fat
>>520981090German who knows nothing about farming or agriculture?
>>520979314based and are-you-me?-pilled
>>521002747>you think that having less decency than me makes you the victor.I couldnt care less about thatI just know what happened to me, if i fstart feeling bad I'll stop
>>520979484Peasant food is what 99.9999999% of your ancestors ate, retard.Heck, (you) are still eating worse than peasant food now, (you) feed on goyslop™.
>>520978954holy shit, lol. 25 kg of rice? the frick you need that much rice for? just buy cheap meat and veggies like a normal person
bone in chicken thighs are like 2 dollars a pound, how the frick are you guys this incompetent?
>>520987870>i will be shooting my meat this yearHold on, pal. There are easier ways to cut it off and troon out. Just try to not hit your feet though.
>>521003117Buying in bulk makes it cheap.
>>521003079>Heck, (you) are still eating worse than peasant food now, (you) feed on goyslop™.YEAH! You tell them chuleta!Eat like people who live in picrel
Lmao that migger is seething
People are poor in the United States because they are completely irresponsible and make poor lifestyle choices.For people who buy rice and things like that in bulk and prepare meals at home, the price of food is almost free, it's like 10% of your income cleaning toilets.The people complaining don't have time for that, they have to eat ultra processed foods, that is why they are usually 300lbs and the kids are measurably retarted.
>>521003017>don't care about being a good personoh hi white niggerif you can't win, then lie and cheat and insult others to cover up when you're wrong i guess. at least your inflated ego is intact>muh feelsyou can't see your fatty liver with feels, you need some kind of imagingyou can't feel arterial stenosisyou were not losing weight becuse you did keto and other calorie restrictioni specifically mentioned fats and oils, and you dutifully neglected to say anything, which makes me think you were using lots of fats and oils. you were also most likely not eating enough. you need to have the caloric surplus in carbs in order to boost metabolism. undereating makes you fat. it increases cortisol bc stress. sugar lowers cortisol and lowers stress btw. i also did extended water fasts, my longest being 21 days on water and coffee, and a little salt. it was quite the experience but it really did metabolic damage on me. do not calorie restrict.the woman i posted, nutrition by victoria, deals with tons of clients who have this same issue from years of restrictive dieting. >>521003646>People are poor in the United States because they are completely irresponsible and make poor lifestyle choices.largely i would agree. we also have to notice the other side of the coin, which is the trillion dollar plus platos' cave type apparatus which is used to dumb down everyone since childhood. they deliberately create this consumer mindset and feedback loop of "buy thing >dopamine hit > buy another thing>dopamine hit". this has to be inculcated in people on purpose.one thing i noticed is that thirdies almost always try to start businesses in canada vs being employed. and even if employed, they wish to start a business. they have much lower iqs but so much more commons sense and thrift they never grew up with a screen in front of them all day letting them know they are inferior bc no jordans or whatever. look at all the anons itt talking about "peasant food", just snobbery
>>520978954Do you just live exclusively on grains, you attention whore?
>>521003474this is not an argumentare you trying to suggest a causal link between a starch based diet and puddles in the road?
>>520995308>do people eat pounds and pounds of meat at ever meal? what are you on about? what a retarded straw man, shame is the only thing you should feel for a long, long time after posting that kinds of crap>there is no need to eat "pounds and pounds" of lettuce, as you only need 5% of your calories to come from protein. all it does is make new hair and fingernail cells, replace muscle cells. it does not provide energy unless the body turns it into sugar, aka CARBS. your cells run on carbs. your brain runs on CARBS. when you are starving your brain eats your muscles and makes CARBS for your brain. the cells in your muscles run on CARBS. your need CARBS to make atp, which is energy.>and you get as much as you need from rice only, burgerwitMeat is a lot denser than greens. The amount of volume you would need to eat to get the same protein in weight of meat would not accommodate your stomach. Like i said humans are not ruminating animals like cows with multiple stomachs to digest greens into protein. This is obvious which is why humans are omnivores. As for your spill about carbs well yes grains can transformed into sugar which is energy. You are correct people need to eat carbs or they will not have energy. That's why a balanced diet of meat, greens and carbs is ideal. I don't agree about replacing vegetables for meat and eating a strictly diet of carbs and vegetables. You need protein to repair your body. And you need a lot more than you are recommending, especially if you are doing physical exercise. Only 5% of your calories from protein is not enough unless you are not physically excerting yourself at all.
>>521004651>one thing i noticed is that thirdies almost always try to start businesses in canada vs being employed. and even if employed, they wish to start a business. they have much lower iqs but so much more commons sense and thrift>they never grew up with a screen in front of them all day letting them know they are inferior bc no jordans or whatever. look at all the anons itt talking about "peasant food", just snobberyBecause they want to establish roots and wealth in Canada to settle down. The reason why natives don't want to setup businesses is because we see it as an impossible goal. The gateway to entry is too high, it's stressful, costly, uncertain, risky and we don't want to deal with people on a day to day basis. Foreigners have nothing to lose and everything to gain. They fail? They can just start all over again because they are already at the bottom. There's also massive demoralization in the west that foreigners don't understand. We don't like it here so why work extra hard when you already have an established existence thanks to being multi generational. Ironically as a native i want these foreigners to leave and go home. But they won't. They just chase money while we don't care about money as the ultimate goal. We want control of our destinies which we are being denied. Low IQ immigrants don't have this duality. West is controlled by jews. Minorities don't care. They just want to work and breed.