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Selling out your fellow man, yet you are still the same miserable faggot and have no cool super powers
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>>520981970
they get to cosplay in cool costumes and play pretend wizard and look cool and smart before being sucked into hellfire
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>>520981970
Actually, you do. You get fireballs. But here's the thing, you didn't have to sell put your fellow man to do it. That part is a fun little extra.
https://youtu.be/u3MX-rUtS6M
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In the west it would appear it's mostly just a way for non-jews to use a bastardized kaballastic framework to be fat gay retards.
There are exceptions but despite witchcraft never being more popular it's also never been more powerless.
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>>520981970
>What is the point of occultism?
buttfucking
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>>520982231
The very top is Celtic magic. So you are wrong Jew (again).
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>>520981970
My biggest problem with occultism/theurgy is that ALL of it is Abrahamic unless you're talking about Asian magic. There is no western tradition of magic that hasn't been infected with Bible angels, Hebrew letters, jewish demons, christian saints, YHWH, Satan, or Kabbalah.

If there is one, let me know.
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>>520981970
You can get powers if you make a deal with the devil and offer your soul and accept hell. The powers are not yours theyre the devil's. Clairovoyance, remote viewing, seduction, knowing hidden knowledge. Its not worth it
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>>520982307
Was. But when it comes to magic, you'd be surprised how quickly things, CHANGE!
https://youtu.be/5aAj9rqZiEQ
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>>520981970
the super power is called being rich and powerful
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>>520982307
I am not a jew nor would I ever use any of the kike symbolism but go ahead and make yourself look more retarded by making assumptions.
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>>520981970
You learn actual, hidden truth about things that the masses can't integrate into their psyche, hence the term "occultism" or "the study of hidden things."

Also, it is raw dog spirituality that isn't gate kept by powerful institutions
>Noooooo if you have a spiritual experience you need to talk with your priest and make sure it comports with the catechism and Church doctrine

Your unconscious has more true doctrine than the Church does
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>>520982988
Anything worth anything IS gate kept.
Period.
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>>520982338
Then you haven't done any basic research into occultism, there are a ridiculous amount of currents that have nothing to do with Abrahamism.

Thelema, Crowley's cult, has almost nothing to do with Abrahamism
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>>520983143
No greater gate, than the mind. Hahahahahahah! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! AHAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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>>520983059
But the converse isn't necessarily true. Just because something is gate kept doesn't mean it's worth anything.

Mainstream orthodox Christianity isn't gatekeeping any profound secrets, unless you study the rituals of high church liturgy and analyze their symbolism, or go into their more monastic mystical components which, ironically, are just preserved esoteric practices which got integrated into the Church
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>>520983143
Thelema is riddled with christian and jewish influence as it was a product of an attempted rejection of them that didn't go far enough.
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>>520981970
The point of occultism is to give a feeling of agency to numskulls who live in their parents basement.
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>>520983458
Like??? I know there's the Thelemic mass but its ritual has nothing to do with Christianity or Judaism. The pantheon of Crowley is just Greco-Egyptian deities
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>>520983143
Thelema still hinges on Qabalah/Kabbalah
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>>520981970
If you need someone to tell you this, you don't deserve to know. If its hidden, its to keep power or its a larp to sell books, and nobody gives power for free.
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>>520983582
One very common and accessible example to look at would be in the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram where the 4 cardinal points of the elements each have an Archangel attached the them (Raphiel, Gabriel, Uriel, Michael). This is a very basic ritual used nearly constantly both alone and in preparation for further work (which is also heavily judaised).
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>>520981970
>no cool super powers
fake news
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>>520983712
I guess that's fair. I'm not a Crowleyan myself.

One example that immediately comes to mind is the Rune Guild. I'm sure there are other analogs for Hellenism, Greco-Egyptian mythology, etc.
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>>520984604
https://youtu.be/AAx1eAngWgw
The existence of the sublime implies the existence of the domlime. Therefore I can only conclude. I am more lemons than you.
https://youtu.be/AAx1eAngWgw
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>>520982338
It's called shamanism
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>>520981970
https://rentry.co/8vab5txc

Historically a method of technological development, deployment and transfer .

I think the idea is upon learning the knowledge, to become avatar for tge archetype the knowledge derived from, a type of demonic possession that implements the will beyond the ages
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>>520984747
There are plenty of counter-examples you could find as well but Crowley's parents were fundamentalist Christians (Plymouth Brethren) and despite all his other worldly influences he was still a product of his time and upbringing.
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>>520982338
Hermeticism doesnt have abrahamic influence. its mostly a mix of greek and egyptian paganism
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>>520983712
This is true although macgregor mathers used to complain about crowley calling him a kike.
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>>520985405
Indeed more like abrahamism came from the hermetic doctrine
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>>520981970
There are two occultism
1) The one that was before the Enlightenment, which was a blend between science and religion and was rooted in a quasi empiricist model and was an attempt to understand reality using the religious and scientific concepts available back then. For example, John Dee, who was in essence a mathematician, invoked angels to understand the secrets of the universe and for political spying, not for self deifying and religious purposes like proto-troon Crowley did. Newton was interested in alchemy, which at the time was akin to chemistry. The same with Paracelsus. The same with Jewish Kabbalists, who were polymath scholars rather than fat troons taking drugs and invoking the Hemipenis of Azhdeha.
2) The one after the enlightenment, and the one we have now, which amounts to nothing but dissociative drug fueled states for troons, homos, inchoate sex maniacs, and other marginal and psychologically unstable strata. Science bifurcarted from occultism, and the occult turned into aesthetic experiments for the smart and artistic (Hollywood) and a schizophrenic never never land for the mentally ill and retarded (Thelema and Cultus Sabbati and the other smaller frigne cults revolving around a male BPD personality).
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According to a friend in Washington DC that regularly goes to the masonic library, Crowley is referred to as Saint Crowley in masonic literature.
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>>520986280
> fat troons taking drugs and invoking the Hemipenis of Azhdeha.

More like invoking Tomegatherion (the beast of revalations) and having prostitutes play the scarlet whore of babylon for "scientific" purposes.
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>>520981970
The power structures of today function as the gatekeepers of the occult, keeping from the common people the secrets of their true power. An interesting tidbit comes from the autobiography of Carl Jung, where he said Freud told him his deranged “sexual theory” was essentially a magic spell against the occult.
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They like to harass nerds in their basement for having the powers they wish they had.
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>>520981970
All publicly visible occultism is built on faulty premises, it is entirely non-functional gibberish.
This is Intentional.
Its an obfuscation measure.
Oversaturating the public consciousness with horseshit to the point that the kneejerk response becomes disinterest and deep cynicism is the goal.
And in my opinion, a noble one.
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>>520981970
The low level retards are distraction from higher levels.
It is sacrificial blood ritual to use human energy and life, one way or another. The lower levels to trap people into a world where they will be used by the higher levels. The higher levels, to manifest and modify what is called reality.
It pre-dates the last global cataclysm, which is twice as old as history taught to the public.
There was a thread in /x about the 18000 year old history of the illuminati.
They play a long game, and view humanoid species like pieces on a gameboard.
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>>520986894
>Anime pic Magatard has real institutional power
Lmao

>>520987646
Wrong, theatrical performances like this are meant to scare and gatekeep cattle like you, as real occultism has multiple layers and can be dangerously corrupted by retards like you
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>>520988003
>>520987646
You know, both of you can be right at the same time.
https://youtu.be/x5kQeVvoTl0
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>>520981970
It's to veil the truth in a thousand mysteries, so that nobody can challenge you and everybody just minds their own business, as in kept busy with labor, taxes and bureaucracy.
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>>520981970
Crowley died broke.
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>>520981970

Thata our position in the cosmology. We separated putselves from God and we got the information of "how to be like God".

We will continue on this path until we fuck it up because we are flawed beings. This is the apocalypse
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>>520987646
"Science"
Big scientific breakthroughs come through LSD or satanic rituals. Its all Apostate.



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