ITT: We discuss the Bible and Christianity, be they its passages, the ramifications on the world, being against it all, etc. This is political, and I think loving God is very politically incorrect.I'll kick it off with with a passage that has perplexed many people in this day and age. I should also mention that I am a layman, and I'm not in seminary nor affiliated with a proper brick & mortar church. That being said, the passage is from Matthew 27:46 (NIV): "About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, 'Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?' - which means, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'"This isn't Jesus lashing out against God. What Jesus is doing is an old Israelite custom where one would call out the first verse of a Psalm to invite the others to join in its recitation. In Jesus' case, you can read the Psalm He was getting the Israelites to recite with Him Psalm 22. Psalm 22:1 says, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" I encourage you to keep reading it yourself because Psalm 22 goes well beyond the character limit. At that time, Jesus was about to die on the cross.
cringe jew shit
>>520991949Why's that?
>>520992019>Why's that?
>>520992109Greentexting my post and posting a wojak doesn't answer the question.
>>520991898I’ve really soured on Christian pity lately in its official collective sense (no necessarily a theological one). Modern Christianity (at least in the U.S.) seems completely focused on geopolitical issues for globohomo (evangelizing in Africa or India) and not actually doing anything to help the faithful in western nations. I don’t see theological pushback against the anti-White, DEI shit. Modern Christianity seems focused on arguing whether women should be ministers or if dudes should be butt fucking or not. I’d like a religion that doesn’t make me feel guilty for being born a White man. I’d like a religion that says our culture and customs are good and worthy of conservation too.
>>520992238>Greentexting my post and posting a wojak doesn't answer the question.
>>520992332So go be a christian pastor and preach that. No other religion can combat jews, women's sufferage, race mixing, the one world agenda. And that's why all of those agendas spend centuries attacking christianity before attempting to impose their agenda
If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God and be saved, or your own righteousness? Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sinful condition. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
>>520992332I hear you. God created the nations and its people so, and to God there is no European, or Indian, or African, etc. But here on Earth, we still have our differences and they appear to be very distinct. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but you can't yoke the nations together. I think it's important to spread the gospel everywhere because that is the command, but there is a secular mind virus that has had an effect on us. Protestantism is predominantly laity served ideally by ordained ministers, which I can't say for sure if that's inherently a problem or not, and a lot of them are living secular lives where they are exposed to cultural marxism and other wokeisms. This gets nasty when a lot of them via osmosis or otherwise gets unchristian ideas into their heads. The acceptance of homosexuals into the church as if homosexuality isn't a sin has been a cleaving point. I think everyone should be welcome in a church, but so long as they are repentant of their sins and want to do their penance for them. The devil's work is crafty.
>>520992803I don't understand this meme. Care to extrapolate?
>>520991898All I have on Christianity, the teachings, morals, philosophy, law, history, origin etc.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/442494416Some more specific partshttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493495206/Some older thread that includes some stuff i had to cut out due to space reasonshttp://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/392101355
Jesus wasn't even a real person, you dummies>pic related
>>520993212What we like in the temple is rape, torture, robbery, murder and so on for fun. So cursed be the earth, how to accomplish that? I'm not so sure...
>>520991898You should mention that psalm 22 is a prophecy of the Messiah, written from the Messiahs perspectives>16For dogs surround me; a band of evil men encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet.d>17I can count all my bones; they stare and gloat over me.>18They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.eHe is affirming that everything isforgoing as foretold.I would also add that Christ, taking our punishment means to be cut of from the Father as we would deserve for our sins. So it also may well be that this was that part of His sacrifices
>>520993326I can't wholly agree with Göbbels, because the command is to spread the Word to all. It is a religion for everyone, including the masses. But it does take a lot of humility to even fully comprehend how big God is. It's not at all easy, but it must be ministered to. The path Jesus is leading us on is fraught with thorns and brambles, but the command is still to follow Him. Ideally, you'll have a spiritual father and/or a church father to held set you back to following after Jesus.
>>520991898Never fall asleep on the brood of vipers is one of the first steps.In his 2004 book XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul, Luke Ford wrote about a conversation with Goldstein, in which Ford asked Goldstein why Jews were dramatically overrepresented in the porn industry. He answered, “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism. Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged.” Ford then asked, “What does it mean to you to be a Jew?” To which Goldstein responded, “It doesn’t mean anything. It means that I’m called a k*ke.” Ford also asked, “Do you believe in God?” Goldstein said, “I believe in me. I’m God. Screw God. God is your need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God, admit it. We’re random. We’re the flea on the butt of the dog.”Currently an ordained rabbi still owns pornhubhttps://time.com/7017403/solomon-friedman-pornhub-ethical-interview/They ARE the enemy of ALL men“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
>>520991898https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NJwc9mXXg7U&pp=0gcJCQMKAYcqIYzv
>>520992019It's self-evident.
>>520993364It's a long read, so can you share the summary of some of the points in it?>>520993557I'm still not understanding. What temple does this? God frowns on such things as rape, torture, robbery, murder, etc because those things are all sins. This Earth is here for repentance and salvation, not for us to wander and be cursed on. That's for where the demons and those who decided to stray away from Jesus and God, for there is no other way to the Father than through Jesus Christ.>>520993664I should have mentioned that, you're absolutely right. At the same time, I was getting concerned about the character limit.
>>520993676Many are called, but few are chosen
Wrong. Being mad at God isn’t a sin, blasphemy is. Keep using the reference and obsessing over how he used the word “the” just like a chapter fifty books prior.
>>520991898Jesus, zombie lord; I will eat your flesh and drink your blood, so after I die, I too will rise again. *replace lgbt with Chris Cucks in image
>>520993664Also in verse 8, where the people mock him as being unable to save himself
>>520994123>It's a long read, so can you share the summary of some of the points in it?Paul's letters never mention a historical JesusThe Gospels are just rewrites of earlier Jewish literature, not historial accountsNo extra-biblical sources discuss a historical Jesus until the late 180sThere's some Bayesian maths which is largely irrelevant, just Carrier being a sperg
>>520994005That's true, but be careful of condemning them or anyone with our own judgement. We should be praying for them, because we can't help but sprout thorns and thistles with our own works and judgements, and words like that reflect sin very much so, especially one that doesn't sound repentant (which I think is why excommunication is a thing). Yes, we cannot tolerate sin, because sin is the enemy. This means our sin as much as another's sin.>>520994105Pic related is another depiction of Adam and Eve in that critical moment. Most of the results on google images depict them with European features. What's your point?
>>520994128That's true. My concern is that it can be misunderstood as, "Don't even try". Everyone is invited to the wedding, but only a few will arrive dressed for that wedding.
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>>520991898(Matthew 24:3) “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”>Jesus said that his presence would be signified with...(Matthew 24:7) “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.(Luke 21:11)...in one place after another pestilences...(Matthew 24:12) and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.>The earth would be ruined and polluted.“Bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18)>The message is officially spread of his coming and his Kingdom.“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matt. 24:14.>The Announcement of Peace and Security“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.>The Great Tribulation>ArmageddonWe are currently in the pangs of distress Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 which is part of the last days. We are not in the Great Tribulation. Where we are is in the moment right before they announce peace and security. They are going to announce a word wide call of Peace & Security in some way. Then the Great Tribulation then Armageddon.
>>520993364pic relatedFurther it can be assumed fact that the apostles truely believed their story. They had no motive to lie about Jesus as the only thing they received from it was a life in refuge and if caught torture to death, having to leave behind family and friends. No reason to make the story up, but endless ones to deny the story, yet even under torture to death they did not revoke the testimony. likewise if they werent earnest in their believe of Christ divinity then they would never have believed Pauls conversion story nor let him into any possible shemes they might be cooking up after he hunted and murdered as many Christians he could find.You may say they were crazy, deceived, on drugs or whatever, but they did believe their own testimony 100%So we can establish 2 things as fact:>Jesus died on the cross>Jesus did a lot of things they couldnt explain beyond acrediting it to miracles of God>He was seen alive afterwards>>520995000Paul saw Christ in a vision and got the knowledge there of. This is because Christ died, resurrected and advanced to the heavens and wasnt around anymore personally. Yet he describes historical events of Jesus confirmed by his visions and fellow apostles who met Jesus.>According to the scriptureWhich talks about literal historic events
Idiot golems do nothing but repeat dead mens words and argue bible back and forth for centuries stupid cult stupid slaves to JEWISH LAWS that are nonsensical>we deserve to be cut off from god for breaking jewish lawsDelusion.>satan demons the devil this the devil that>every year world will end soon(tm) every year world does not endRetards
>>520995425Weirdo
>>520995096Humans do not have a choice but to tolerate sin.Btw the world does not end. Every year christian retards claim world will end because of a book written by jews (their enemies).U get conned by your child fucking priests.
>>520991898>"About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, 'Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?' - which means, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'"WRONG. Jesus spoke Mayan on the cross:>HELI LAMAH ZABAC TANIThe phrase, thus organized and translated corresponds to the following: ‘Now I immerse myself in the pre-dawn of your presence’.
>>520991898>>520995399Good News! We are at the bottom of the feet at last. God's Kingdom ruled by King Jesus Christ is up next. You guys are living in exciting times.>(Daniel 2:44) “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;PIC RELATED>(Daniel 2:45) forasmuch as you beheld that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The grand God himself has made known to the king what is to occur after this. And the dream is reliable, and the interpretation of it is trustworthy.”>(Isaiah 28:16) therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation. No one exercising faith will get panicky.>(Daniel 2:34) You kept on looking until a stone was cut out not by hands, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and of molded clay and crushed them.CONTINUED...
>>520995428>paul say this >paul that>jesus say this>bible say thisYouve never met any of these people
>>520995804>jehova witnessShit tier cult of child rapists. You will die like all other christgolems and your kingdoms will rot from within.I enjoyed fucking a mexican married girl who was a JW and her husband let her fuck other men bc of their interpretation of JW polyagamy laws HAHAHAHAHA
>>520991898>>520995399>>520995804(Psalm 118:22) The stone that the builders rejected Has become the head of the corner.>(Romans 9:33) as it is written: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense, but he that rests his faith on it will not come to disappointment.”>(1 Peter 2:6) For it is contained in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone, chosen, a foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment.”>(Luke 20:17) But he looked upon them and said: “What, then, does this that is written mean, ‘The stone which the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone’?>(Acts 4:11) This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’>(1 Corinthians 3:11) For no man can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is Jesus Christ.>(Ephesians 2:20) and YOU have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone.Pic related. The stone that you see in Daniel destroying all the kingdom of the world starting at the bottom of the feet is the same cornerstone of God's Kingdom: Jesus Christ. Jesus himself, along with an army of angels, will come down here and execute all evil doers in the world. The West will not be conquered by another human empire. It will be conquered by Christ himself. How long until imminent empire collapse(politically, socially, economically) and another human empire can take over? Many anons here have helped me narrow this down to 20-30 years.Do you know what happens next?
>>520991898>This isn't Jesus lashing out against God.he just received the worst punishment for our sins. unanswered prayer, total separation from God when he needed it the most.the only reason we can pray to God and have a connection with him is because of Jesus Christ being rejected on the cross.also to shime in with scripture, a reminder that we live in the last church age and should heed Jesus rebuke against the current church.Revelation 314 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. 20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”
>>520991898>"About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, 'Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?'wtf why is jesus speaking in some kike language?
>>520992332modern day churches are so way down the drain its almost insufferable.have a direct and personal relationship with God.
>>520995804>>520995955The primary theme of Jesus ministry wasn't salvation and it wasn't repentance. It was God's Kingdom.>(Matthew 4:23) Then he went around throughout the whole of Gali·lee, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the good news of the kingdom and curing every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity among the people.>(Matthew 4:17) From that time on Jesus commenced preaching and saying: “Repent, YOU people, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.”>(John 18:36) Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”The model prayer>(Matthew 6:9, 10) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.>(Matthew 6:33) “Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these [other] things will be added to YOU.The entire theme of Jesus is his father's Kingdom being the solution to all lives problems.The verses all there imply that a heavenly regime will invade earth and wipe out all disobedient mankind. Pic related, the earth will be transformed into a beautiful paradise where all of you will live there and not visit there. You will all be physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually perfect. No defects of any kind. No sickness, no old age, no mental disorders, no crime, violence, fear and no death.>(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
>>520995928>do not observe Christmas, Easter, birthdays, Mothers day, Fathers day, or other holidays and customs they consider to have pagan origins incompatible with ChristianityUh oh guess what the names of each day are named after you fucking deranged jews.Another reason I despise christgolems, they turn into jews.
>>520993664And in verse 31, Christ has done it, as parallelled in matthew ch 27 v 50, Mark ch15 v37, and explicitely in John ch19 v30 >When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.The crucifixion is the irl Psalms 22.>>520991898I'd not noticed this parallell until today. Thanks, OP.
>>520995955Your pissweak cult of retards is insignificant and your fake king will never destroy the planet. Your life and that of your cult will disappear long before this planet is destroyed.
>>520992332Then come with us. Jehovah's Witnesses are the truest and most purest form of Christianity similar to that of the 1st Century Christians. We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.Our primary message is that of God's Kingdom now ruling in heaven by Jesus Christ who has been enthroned as King. We use God's name and teach it to others openly. We are the only ones actively preaching the message from your local neighborhoods, your local businesses, to missionary work in the most distance lands in the world. All of this without shedding one drop of blood or firing one bullet at an enemy.JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history. In fact, they were imprisoned in the LOLacaust for refusing to war for Hitler WHILE they were imprisoned in the US for refusing to war for the US. Right now, there are JW in prison in Uzebekistan, South Korea, and Armenia for refusing military service. A few months ago Russia officially banned their work for refusing to be nationalistic. They are the most innocent of all the sects.Here's a video we made for the children.https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/05/05/jehovahs-witness-video-under-fire-for-homophobic-message/
>>520994242That's not what I'm saying at all in the OP.>>520994490John 6:25 has Jesus speaking of the bread of life and how He is that bread. It is also stated in John 15 that Jesus is the true vine. The bread and the wine. This also harkens back to the very beginning when Eve and then Adam ate of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil when their lot is to eat of the Tree of Life. Jesus is the fruit of the Tree of Life as he is also the bread of life.I'll be honest, I'm still struggling to articulate this.>>520995000It's true that there wasn't a Bible until well past Christianity's founding. Before that, they had the church fathers who kept the word. Today there are still church fathers who do. I also flipped through 1 Timothy and found Paul had stated Jesus Christ in it, but I am reading the NIV version of it. Are you saying that the Apostle Paul never mentioned Jesus Christ as a historical person? What does that mean?
>>520996294You're not going to heaven until you confess Jesus Christ as GOD and repent.JW are false prophets, and failed every attempt to call the end of the world has been a lie, followed by denials they ever did it. Charles Taze Russel was a liar and so was judge Rutherford.
>>520996294Good for you. Your cult will never rule the earth. Your cult is insignificant and your priests abuse children.
>christcucks worshipping jewish paganismI guess we won kek. Everyone should be pagan.
>>520996508All christgolem cults are false prophets.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Christian_religious_predictionsEvery. Single. Christgolem. Cult. Has. False. Prophecied. Without. Exception.Thus I dismiss all of Christianity and the Bible as a lie. Given the absolutely perfectly wrong track record of Christgolem cult leaders, the Bible is a lie.
>>520996698Paul himself was a false prophetSo was Jesus All apocalyptic prophets were and are delusional
>>520991898Have you ever learned the language of the source materials? (Koine) Greek, Aramaic, Latin, Biblical Hebrew (not to be mistaken with Elizier Ben-Yehuda's constructed LARPanguage),...?
>>520996572Everyone is a pagan, including jewsStrict monotheism would deny the existence of beings like angels and demons>WELL SEE UHH THERES UHH ONLY ONE GOD>invent pantheons of angels and demons almost the same as pagan pantheonsL m a o
>>520991898Romans 10:9-139 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”Romans 5:1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
>>520996949Its all the same dumb bullshit and our idiot ancestors murdered each other over different rituals and >oh no u didnt interpret the book rightWe would be better off as atheists
>>520997069>mmmm lets argue more over nonsense book mmmm
>>520995428>>520995812Why are you replying to yourself?
>>520991898Fuck off Jew worshipper. Your Jewish filth is not welcome here
>>520991949fpbp
>>520993326>roach still posting this spamFuck off
>>520996508>You're not going to heavenHumans are not meant to go to heaven. They were meant to stay here on earth forever.>(Isaiah 45:18) For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.>(Psalm 37:29) The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.>(Psalm 115:16) As regards the heavens, to Jehovah the heavens belong, But the earth he has given to the sons of men.>(Proverbs 2:21) For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.>(Matthew 5:5) “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.>(Psalm 25:13) His own soul will lodge in goodness itself, And his own offspring will take possession of the earth.>(Psalm 37:11) But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.>(Matthew 6:9-10) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, ALSO UPON EARTH.>(Jeremiah 27:5) ‘I myself have made the earth, mankind and the beasts that are upon the surface of the earth by my great power and by my stretched-out arm; and I have given it to whom it has proved right in my eyes.>(Acts 17:26) And he made out of one [man] every nation of men, to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth, and he decreed the appointed times and the set limits of the dwelling of [men],
>>520995675It's a roach. It has been spreading these same lies here for years
>>520995687You're right that this world is one of sin and where the Serpent stands as one of its masters. This world has two masters; God and the Serpent. Also, and most importantly, this world has one God, and that is God. We as people, despite the nigh insurmountable and impossible task, cannot be beholden to sin. God, however, provided a way for us to see Him, and that is through Jesus Christ. When we slip off course (we will), then we can repent and do the penance for it. At the end of it all we need to give to God an account for all of what we did. Our conscience will testify against us. To speak of the horrors in our heart, we need to practice great humility to pull it off. Careful, because the devil is crafty and will still find a way to get into the heads of even the greatest of saints.
>>520995425>They had no motive to lie about Jesus as the only thing they received from it was a life in refuge and if caught torture to death, having to leave behind family and friends.Sophists have died for their cults all throughout human history. You'd be hard pressed to find a singular jew/abrahamist adjacent ideology that didn't become established by attrition - throwing useful idiots snd true believers at civilization until either>A) anyone wise enough to resist their LARP died of old age or in orchestrated wars and crisis>B) they corrupted enough poor people and youths to zergrush older generations>C) they wormed their way into position of authority>D) all the aboveMoreso: >No reason to make the story up, but endless ones to deny the story, yet even under torture to death they did not revoke the testimony.Canon is written by victors and taught by their servants. When human fallibility and weakness is completely struck from the records, it's a narrative not a documentation.
>>520995749Even that's not true, because it would have to be "HELI HELI" for starters, and also the Mayan "B" is implosive and not pronounced the Aramaic one. I doubt what was said here, interesting though it may be.Also, what Mayan language would that be?
>>520997544>ooga booga the devil
>>520992685Christianity’s goal is a one world government where Jesus rules it…
>>520994105Anyone who depicts Adam and Eve as shitskins are bullshitting and you know it
>>520995964This is a very profound post. But I would love for you to answer how exactly He got separated from God? What happened to make it so?Revelation 3:18 is fascinating. "...buy from me gold refined in the fire". What does that mean exactly? Buying gold from God, and refined in the fire at that?
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>GO TO FUCKING CHURCH, GOYIM!
>>520998219I despise this satanic backwards logic of somebody using Christian standards they apparently don't even believe in, to try disprove something they apparently believe has no proof.To address your point, Jesus will rule a Kingdom, and it will have no end.satan is also trying to set up a kingdom - but it has an end, it will fail and his fate is sealed. It's a kingdom of darkness, called because in man's blindness, most don't even realise who it is they serve, or that they are serving at all; many have fallen for satans deceit and are yet to realise it, and I am worried you are one of them anon.Matthew 12:30>He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
>>520996572Many Israelites turned to Christ and soon, too, did the gentiles. It has always been in God's plan to call for the salvation of all the nations, even back in the time of Abraham. Isn't there an Israelite law where an alien can be nationalized as an Israelite after ten generations? I think the Edomites got to do it for three, because Esau was Jacob's brother.But there were those who rejected that Jesus is the Christ, and those who had to see Herod's temple be destroyed after 70 years since Jesus' birth. They kept to their old laws and are now ordained by those who kept those old laws; the Rabbis. They wrote in their own personal "wisdom" into and over Torah that is the Talmud. Jesus cursed the Scribes and the Pharisees for doing such things that the Rabbis do today.So, no, the Jews didn't win. They're lost. But, fortunately, God still loves you, and He wants you back in the fold.
>>520997883I can't agree with the image you posted. God is indeed all knowing, but he has a will that we know and he has a hidden will that is none of our business. God lets us choose and then God works out His works in accordance to what we chose. The serpent was indeed possessed by a dark power, but the serpent still had to let the dark power possess it. Eve still chose to eat the fruit of the tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil, and Adam still chose to eat the fruit, too. Then when confronted, Adam and Eve blamed others for their own decisions. That's the real reason they were cast out. I'm sure God would have kept them in if they repented their nakedness before Him.
>>520998479>But I would love for you to answer how exactly He got separated from God?he was nailed to the cross (a tree) and became a curse for us so we could receive the blessing of God as sinners.Deut 2122 “And if a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, 23 his body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall bury him the same day, for a hanged man is cursed by God. You shall not defile your land that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance.>"...buy from me gold refined in the fire". What does that mean exactly? Buying gold from God, and refined in the fire at that?spiritual riches and genuineness of faith.1 Peter 1 6 In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
>>520992019Anon you base your beliefs on what some jews made up 2000 years ago
>>520998479also1 Corinthians 3:11-1311 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.its about pure unadulterated faith in Jesus Christ. no other doctrines, teachings, mysteries aside from Jesus Christ crucified.
>AHHHHHH LOOK OUT GOD’S GIANT HAND IS WRITING ON THE WALLCrazy that this actually happened
>>520999721Another question I have is about the crown of thorns placed upon Jesus' head. I can't help but think it relates to Genesis 3:18 about the fruits of man's labor being thorns and thistles. What's the take on that?Meanwhile I'm going to screencap your posts for posterity.
>>520991949If that is so cringe then stop being a jew.>>520999971Are you talking about gnosticism?
>>521000289yes, you are correct with Genesis 3.
>>520999322>>520999675>>520999721imagine being this christcucked. just spouting jewish horseshit everywhere you go
>>520999971Who you're calling "Jews" are those who have also rejected Christ and have turned to their own "wisdom", the Talmud. In other words, I'm not understanding where you're going with this.
>>521000452Your Jewish wordplay can't change realityWhatever you want to kill them they were evil rats back then and still are
>>521000423So it's how Jesus bore Man's curse of the fruits of his own toil and labor? Is this a way of saying that this is how Man can bear fruit for God to harvest upon the final judgement, or am I misunderstanding it?
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