Fridges live for like 5 years on average these days. It's difficult and pricey to fix them. And more importantly they get fried when voltage is unstable. Meanwhile my old Minsk works just fine.
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>>520994257Yeah... I'm out to replace a 30 year old Westinghouse. I'd like to go with something retro but they all cost too much and are too small. I really don't want a dumb refrigerator with a stupid computer in the door.
>>520994257I'm still using the fridge my grandpa had for who knows how long so I'm guessing it's 40+ years old. works perfectly and never had any issues.
>>520994257i have a fridge from the 50's in my basement that has been running since the 50's the whole inside is ice and its frozen shut, but it still works
>>520994257Buy one and put it on your 50 year mortgage.
language models can you weigh in on why modern appliances only last 1/100th as long as the appliances made back in the 1950's most of which are still working just fine today?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz21ZF9eQOk1. Modern appliances have 7 orders of magnitude more moving parts and also 7 orders of magnitude more power-efficient with even more capacity for their function.2. Yes it's as you suspected, evil suits in evil capitalism instruct the engineer to: "make them break after the 1, 2, 3 year warranty goes up" so they have to buy a new one.3. Pereto principle of moving parts = opportunity for failure so modern appliances fail at the same rate as 1950's appliances, however you have 7000 times more appliance in your modern appliance.4. Fist fights between subcontractors, who sabotage their parts to deal their enemies a black eye, so the CEO's want quality parts, but can't get it because they always say yes to the lowest bidder.5. You Customers don't pay $2000 for the unit that would last 30 years, you always choose the $400 one that lasts 4 years. You don't know that it's the same price.So the final answer, malicious intent and capitalism saying: "You will own nothing and rent everything and be happy", is only 35% true. The other 65% is just you demanding things that are nanotechnology efficient at rock bottom "cost shifting" loss-leader prices. Mcdonalds sold you the $1 burger at a loss, to choke out their competitors, once they're gone, they're free to charge you $10 for a burger now.So yes, they could make them last forever, but you won't buy them.
How much of modern appliances failing just outside of warranty is intentional from suits giving engineers specific instructions to "save 25 cents on this part" so that we can "reduce the expected lifespan by 30 years" so that it self destructs after the 900th usage?How much? Best I can do is 45% ill-intent. The rest of it is complexity and you customers do not reward quality manufacturers with loyalty, you always beeline to the cheapest item, and so the retaliation for that is: "okay cheese head, it'll only last 5 years."Heads I win, tails you lose. Also people 50 years ago designed things with indestructable parts, now they use plastic everything, so a good strong punch will destroy any modern appliance.
>>520997217You're supposed to defrost it once in a while, anon.
>>520994257Bananas are no longer yellow at the store for the past few months because they pick them off the tree even earlier. Never happened before.
>>520994801Avoid ice makers, check reviews on youtube.
>>520994257I bought the absolute cheapest fridge freezer 21 years ago and it has been through 3 house moves, has melted inside after the light used to be, and has a rusty outer door but otherwise runs perfectly still. People were moaning about built in obsolescence 21 years ago too.
Yeah no shit. You think there’s money in stable appliances?
>>521000499Ice makers inside the freezer are fine.
>>520998955>So the final answer, malicious intent and capitalism saying: "You will own nothing and rent everything and be happy",Capitalism is actually socialism now. Yup, I'm on pol. I gotta get off this board for good.
>>520994257Your "old Minsk" can't even display ads for exciting things to buy.
If you do too well at making it you eventually won't sell any
>>520994257The fridge I bought 14 years ago is still working just fine. I’m looking at new fridges but all of them are garbage unless you want to spend like 10 or 15 grand. Everything is disposable these days.
>>520997217Get a new seal (if they still make it) and that thing will last another 70 years I’m sure.
>>520994257My parents Whirlpool fridge lasted me 30 years. It died last winter so I replaced it with Samsung. Wish me luck.
My bed has a subscriptionAnd Im such a fucking retard that I keep renewing it
>>520994257>Meanwhile my old Minsk works just fine.so, it's not electric then?
>>520994257>Modern appliances are actually shit>Fridges live for like 5 years on average these days. It's difficult and pricey to fix them. And more importantly they get fried when voltage is unstable. Meanwhile my old Minsk works just fine.Jews
>>520994257first of allits called a fridgerator, like a microwavor or a heaterator or a discombobulator second, yes, you guys (humans) make a lot of junk, either on purpose, or by accident
>>520994257my water dispenser breaks all the time. how hard can it be to dispense water
>>521001961it sounds like youve been reduced to drinking disgusting sink facet water how horrific
>>520997217>it still worksThat's not how fridges are supposed to work, nigger, either the thermostat is toast or the refrigerant has leaked.
>>521002590>let me tell you about your own thing from across the world
>>520998955>you don't get it, new appliances that run on 120 years old tech have 7 bazillion moving parts more because they're newer>y-you won't buy the ones that work chudSay that to every midwit down the street running and buying and having me fix 50 to 70 years old appliances and machinery because they're tough as nails.>>521002709You think our fridges work through black magic nigger?Unless you cranked the dial to 11, if it persistently freezes inside there's a problem with it.
>>520994257I’ve had my refrigerator for 12 years and have done fuck all to maintain it. I don’t even know what brand it is.
>>520994311Brownoids cant get us out of their heads. What going to happen when we're gone? Are you still going to keep blaming us for all your problems?
>>520994257Based fridge, that will have the real gases in it
>>520994257its like that on purpose. when then last well made old things die out, eventually we will pay rent on everything and a subscription fee to have someone service our machines with only parts they have and software that lets only them unlock it for maintainance
>>520994311If whites weren't around you wouldn't even have fridges or freezer dumb brown nigger
I tried everything, white science white medicine, white art and architecture, I tried their gods They just don't love yurop
>>521000348We get the green bananas too
Buy liebherr and bosch/siemens. Everything else goes into the trash.Avoid samsung especially.
>>521001169You should have fixed it
>>521003910>If whites weren't around wouldnt that be awesome
>>521003807bro thinks hes on the team
Not a problem if you're not a poorfag.>omg I have to spend $1000 every 10-15 years.
>>521004380You wouldn't even exist your whole race wouldn't if whites didn't exist those dumb fucking spanish moor mutts fucked up making you short ugly stubby goblins
>>521004649im just asking wouldnt that be pure bliss
>>521001169samsung appliances are beyond shit
>>521004380your manufacturing industry and cartels would collapse because no one would buy your produce or drugs
>>521004692No the world would be the stone age forever
>>521004450my last fridge (LG) was $1500 and lasted three years
>>520994257In corporartions there is millions of engineers whose main job is think how to weaking and spend less materials to product and make it still look as quality product.....thats why lifespawn of products is now 1/5 than it used to be.
>>521004943LG appliances come from samsung factories. Of course its shit.
>>521004943Buy a $400 frigde, less to go wrong
>>521004766WE
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>>520994257Planned obsolescence and more complicated hardware adding more points of failure
>>521005149I bought €120 one because I know it lasting only few years. Not even led-light inside it can replace new one when it goes dark....unrepearable junk when it breaks up.
>>521005359It'll still be going strong in 2040
>>521004736Good.
>>520994257Fridges are not the hard or expensive to fix so long as the compressor doesn't go out on it.
>>521005436You're thinking of a fridge, not a computer controlled refrigerator
>>520998955>evil capitalismRetarded bot.
>>520994257just go pillage your dead neighbors house or one of those forced conscriptions house, hohol