>>520997516Both, but we did worseAnd we will do it again
>>520997516Christkikes
>>520997516Jews and White people who wanted to be like the Jews.Basically the synagogue of satan.
>>520997595>>520997643uh
Germanics know nothing but mudhuts and violence.
>>520997516They weren't really dark. There were cycles.
Globohomo
Feudalism was goodAll Aryan societies have social castes (fucking retard); Germanic ones were flatter than Didn’t burn cities to the ground, parasite cities withered away once the grain shipments stoppedDidn’t destroy Roman institutions, just co-opted them everywhere except Britain Last one is too stupid to even address>lacked of reasonShitskin
>>520997798yet these Germanic subhuman barbarians invented the insulin that (you) have to take just to keep your 600lb ass alive
>>520997800>They weren't really darklmao
>>520997516Dark age was a mini civilization collapse after the great Rome. Humans almost fell back to the stone age but we managed to get back up. Many such cases.
>>520998417There were dark times but not the period as it is portrayed. It wasn't a dark age. More like a dark century.
>>520997516Seeing that the only reason the Dark Ages ended was the collapse of the Byzantine Empire, it's safe to say Christianity was the cause.
>>520997516Jews caused it by weakening Rome until it cracked under its own weight.Also your comparison is retarded because Christianity was the only thing that saved science during the dark ages.
>>520999808Progress had almost completely stopped, genius. Do you realize the Romans were a couple generations from creating steam power? For some reason it took Christians over 1,000 years to further develop the technology.
>>520998417The previous assumption that the end of classical civilization was basically an apocalypse historians in the recent past have questioned. Just because the culture of aristocrats lounging on giant piles of olives quoting Latin poetry at each other withered away doesn't mean the period between 476 and 800 was like Revelation or spear chucking barbarism
>>521000829>Not spear chucking barbarismGerms were spear chuckers
>>521000284They had figured out steam powerThe issue is there was no incentive as slaves were ubiquitous
>>520997516AND DINT FUCKING FORGET HOW THE CHRISTKEKS SEALED AWAY INVALUABLE SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE FOR BEING "HERESY", EFFECTIVELY CEASING ALL SCIENCE DEVELOPMENT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, THE DAMAGE CHRISTKEKERY HAS DONE TO THE EUROPEAN RACES IS IMMEASURABLE, JUST THINKING ABOUT CHRISTKEKERY MAKES ME SO ANGRY
Neither. The dark ages is a garbage term that doesn't apply. Western Roman empire was fucked a long fucking time before it "fell". The last emperor being deposed was basically just a formality and changed absolutely nothing about day-to-day life in Italy, Iberia and Gaul. Northern Africa was already fucked and became even more fucked, Britain was overrun by the Angles, Jutes and Saxons. That's about it.If you want to call it the "dark ages", make it start around 350AD, but it's still a garbage term.
>>521000986The core of the Gothic armies in Late Antiquity were more like lancers actually
>>520997516Rome being so fuckin gay and decadent did.
>>520997516Varg does the dad most muscular pose.
>>520997800>>520999808I'm really tired of this "the dark ages weren't actually dark" meme that historians keep pushing.They keep saying it with a smug face, but they don't actually ever bring up any examples of any not-dark things happening. The only example I've seen is architecture, and even then it's exclusive to cathedrals.Everything else from painting to sculpture, poetry to philosophy, science and politics, and absolutely all forms of infratructure, during the dark ages, from the fall of Rome to the start of the Renaissance, it is a bleak bleak period of at best, stagnation, and at worst total barbarism.The Romans had plumbing for crying out loud. The circus maximus is still the largest stadium today.
>>520997516*burned Roman cities to the ground*lack of reason ["lacked rationalism" would be better]*did nothing while *the* Empire collapsed*didn't seek to solve *the* Empire's problems*oppressand "science persecution" also isn't proper English
>>520997516logic and reason, basically you are brown.
>>520997516It was probably the volcanic eruption of Mount Ilopango that contributed the most to the fall, but that's not something most people discuss.
>>520997516It was me. Sorry.
>>521001403I would rather say it is fringe or becomes more fringe.
>>521001222Ironically if anyone were "spear chuckers" from around this time it was the [Eastern] Romans themselves, because the superiority of the Arab cavalry meant that they had to rely on irregular warfare using (javelin-throwing) light infantry and missile cavalry to keep them at bay in the eastern themes
>>521001665But then again ouroboros.
>>520997516There were no Dark Ages. It's an Enlightenment era psyop.
The Germanics were just migrating in forced migrations. The real destroyers of the Roman Empire were the Mongoloid Huns.
>>521001862The very appearance of the coin in your image is evidence enough of the dark ages
>>521001942
>>520997516There were no dark ages. It's just jewish revisionism. Discrediting a civilization that worked, because most people accepted that Jesus is God. If anything the current age we are living in is the dark age. Dysfunctional jewed society producing whores and trans monsters.
>>520997516Germanics because they built with wood instead of stone so it's hard to find archeological evidence of their exploits.
neither, Graeco-Roman civilization was degenerating and already entering the "dark-age", this degeneration produced chimpstianity as a religion and Germanics dealt the final blow
>>521001862>There were no Dark AgesThis. There were changes and history like every other time. Eastern Rome stood for another thousand years, Rome didn't "fall". Byzantium never called themselves that btw, they called themselves the Roman Empire.
>le no dark ages face
>le nο dark ages face
Germanic incompetence coupled with Middle Eastern invasions.
One mans Dark Age is another mans Heroic Age.
>>521001403>>521001942>>521001862They were not backwards in technology. Medieval European coinage was like this because medievals practiced small-scale production. Aka decentralized gay cottage bullshit that everyone basedfaces about today.
>>521002755Did they also use this excuse for why all their art is terrible and none of it good?But of course you're just being a sophist. You already know that the Christians outlawed all art and destroyed a thousand years of artistic tradition, which took a further thousand years to rebuild.You know, the dark ages.
>>521001007more like it was so primitive it was pretty much completely useless beside some neat curiosity
>>521003268You're just a fedora with the hat on too tight.
>>521004215You're actually a moron
>>521002755city-state era Greece too didn't have the kind of mass production Rome unleashed but they still made pretty fancy coins
>>521000284>the Romans were a couple generations from creating steam power?Counter factual. You have zero evidence that they would have adopted steam power within a few generations had they not collapsed. Stop arguing like a Redditor
>>521001403>Everything else from painting Giotto di Bondone – Lamentation (The Mourning of Christ), c.1305–06, Scrovegni Chapel, Padua>to sculpture, Royal Portal Jamb Statues – Chartres Cathedral (c. 1145–55)>poetry I would say Beowulf which is a poetic epic is a perfect counter example. But that depends on taste.>to philosophy, lol, lmao even. Medieval philosophy is pure keno. Anti-Thomist are still on suicide watch.>scienceI don’t even know what you would accept as a counter argument to this.>and politicsFeudalism was a political improvement in many ways. Western European Kingdoms were more stable than the force de-jure of the Byzantines who maintained the lack of formal succession within the Roman system.>it is a bleak bleak period of at best, stagnation, and at worst total barbarism.You need to go back.