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Does Ron Paul have a point or has he gone over the line?

There's a stark disconnect between the Trump Administration's description of the economy and the economy that we all live in.

There are some things that can't be faked.

We pay our bills. We see our bank accounts, and credit card accounts. We don't need the president, or the media, to tell us that "inflation is dead." We can see with our own eyes:

Inflation is not dead!

Yesterday, it was reported that monthly layoffs from October were the highest total in 22 years!

President Trump was elected to deliver a smaller government with less spending and debt, and an end to the wars. He has done the opposite on all fronts, and the battered economy is reflecting his decisions.
https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1986886373668786621
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> trump lied
no shit
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Ron Paul based as always
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>>521009542
Ron Paul is based and correct as usual. Newfags and /ptg/ MIGAtards will seethe because he doesn’t eat every piece of shit Trump squeezes out
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>>521009542
Bump
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>>521009542
ron paul is literally the only politician who knows how economy works
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>>521009542
>old man yelling at clouds
Boomer fatigue is real
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>>521009542
Ron Paul is right about most things, he's just not enough of a fascist to destroy problems.
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>>521009542
FAKE, Ai and you lost, tranny. Also, trust the plan
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>>521009542
As a libertarian he's correct, but literally no one cares. A beast doesn't kill itself. They're not going to vote themselves a smaller government. As long as we keep paying, they'll keep playing.
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>>521009542
RON PAUL IS WOKE
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>>521009716
I kneel ro Ron Paul. The only person floating on a ship that is corrupt. zchange my mind. You cant. Kike.
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>>521010065
>we
you and the niggercattle, you mean?

Those of us who are actually human know that you are the real problem. You will always keep paying. You don't have the capacity to do anything else. You are a devolved robot-like animal that can only follow orders.

The only solution is total collapse
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>>521009542
>Pedophile spends four years deliberately destroying the economy, same as Niggerbama
>WAAA!!! WHY HASN'T TRUMP FIXED EVERYTHING ALREADY.
Fucking pathetic, same as his kid.
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>>521009542
>There's a stark disconnect between the Trump Administration's description of the economy and the economy that we all live in.
That's because (You) live in India.
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>>521010999
>deliberately destroying the economy
you mean the white race
and by the white race I mean the actual human whites, not the braindead animals that vote and watch football etc
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>>521009542
Trump is a lying kike, he was trained in how to scam the goyim by a jewish pedophile named Roy Cohn
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>>521010065
There’s no free market anymore limiting government won’t do shit for the economy.
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The economy was already destroyed for all non-boomers back in 2008.
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No shit. Where's your DOGE rebate from the guy taking $5 goyslop away from all the retarded people and immigrants?
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>>521011329
They decided to nuke everything because they felt offended when you didn't want to work for Golberg & Associates with a pay cut.
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>>521010065
The current political climate in the US couldn't be more anti libertarian. There are former libertarians saying "but leftists wouldn't respect my rights, so I will be fascist instead", which is retarded. You can try to pragmatically seize the state in order to protect yourself from leftists, but you can still be aware that libertarianism is the way to go, and try to chop the state to a minimal extent so that leftists lack the tools to fuck you up in the future.
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>>521009542
ron paul cringe
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>>521009614
Trump is a son of satan, father of lies.
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>>521009542
Trump lies? shocker. he's so senile now he cant even keep up with them
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>>521010692
This but unironically. Something needs to change and only a collapse can make that happen.
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>>521009542
Ron Paul is a rich libertarian, what does he care? Isnt the whole point of libertarians is to not care about anyone else or even our countries borders?
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>>521011778
There are fundamental problems with the free market and libertarian economic theory is incorrect. We have overlook that because were told socialism is the only alternative
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Oh yeah? Well, how about Eggs, hunter’s laptop, autopen, Obama drone strikes, AI, fake news, Raegan loved tariffs, I never said that, it’s the first I’m hearing about it, you’re telling me about it the first time, and we’re winning bigly Golden Age envy of the world
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>>521009542
Lived long enough to become the villain. Sad.
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>>521009542
Ron Paul is a woke communist DEI hire
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>>521009542
This is what happens when retards don’t know what inflation actually means, including Ron Paul apparently.

Grocery prices increasing isn’t inflation.
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>>521010999
To be fair they both destroyed the economy under Covid.
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>>521010692
>>521011981

You are retarded groypers. The WW2 was a collapse, you know? Do you know where it went, right? Exactly, here. There's no reason to think that a radical change will lead to an improvement, in fact, that's a progressive phallacy. You are the right wing version of a bluehaired crazy bitch saying >current year
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>>521011108
Absolutely FALSE
>and yes the White baby boom is def helping but so are the mass deportations and self deportations
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>>521012257
>shitskin flag babbling internet buzzwords
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>>521009542
https://www.philadelphiafed.org/-/media/FRBP/Assets/Surveys-And-Data/coincident/2025/CoincidentIndexes0825.pdf

Here's an economic report from August showing Maryland is the only state whose economy is shrinking. The rest of the states are growing by most metrics
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>>521009542
Wow no way!
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>>521012051
There's not a single and univocal "libertarian economic theory". And if there were (for example, misian/rothbardian economics, which is the current orthodoxy in the Mises Institute), it's certainly not being applied right now, so the problems of the economy can't be attributed to it. We are now under a deeply intervened capitalism of keynesian inspiration.
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>>521012378
except tons of "whites" are not even fucking white because they are slav mutts or actual nigger/spic/kike mutts

and even the ones that are genetically western european are still mostly genetically predisposed to being braindead slaves

the genepool needs to be cleansed, no problem will get better until it is
collapse
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>>521011094
If OP is a jeet he speaks better English than you. When you’re super stupid you start to think you’re smart and everyone else is stupid
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>>521012592
Nah. Reddit faggot. Things ARE actually getting better, at least demographically. Finally. Go outside. Fucking White babies. White babies everywhere! Lmao. It’s awesome
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>>521009542
WHAT DOES INFLATION HAVE TO DO WITH OCTOBER LAYOFFS PRAWN HAUL

THATS BIDENFLATION BTW JAN 2021-2025
ITS STABILIZED QUITE A LOT SINCE DRUMF TOOK OFFICE
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>>521010999
Trump was president 4 years before Biden
Trump is now president for 1 year after Biden
>MUH PEDOS ARE BETTER THAN YOUR PEDOS!

Not one single factory has been built so far
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>>521012802
Ok now show the real graph lmao
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>>521009542
Since when does a libertarian care about other people?
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>>521012989
3% IS JUST 1% ABOVE TARGET THATS VERY GOOD FOR INFLATION

9% AKA BIDENFLATION IS VERY BAD
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>>521013124
If you think inflation is only 3% then I have a bridge to sell you
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>>521013179
ITS GONNA KEEP GOING UP EVERY YEAR

IT JUST RAN UP TOO FAST DURING BIDENFLATION SO NOW ITS YEARS AHEAD OF WHERE IT SHOULD BE
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>>521013124
Nobody can figure out why inflation went so high immediately under Biden. It’s one of the world’s great mysteries.
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>>521013344
So a nutter?
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>>521009542
Presidents compound lies on top of the lies of their predecessors.
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>>521009771
Shh, you'll wake the President.
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>>521011888
Whew trips of trvke
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>>521009542
How would the people go about reducing Congressional pay? Is there a process?
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>>521009542
He's right as usual. Nobody has money but the rich and trump is acting like biden did which mean the uniparty is more than thrilled to have the lower classes swimming in debt and inflation.
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>>521010999
If trump wants to hand out 2k in gibs to everyone like he did before how good do you think things are going? This is peak Zimbabwe shit
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>>521012378
Imagine believing anything the jew government has to say regarding any statistic in the current year + 10. Could never be me.

Peak retard jeet shill.
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>>521009542
uh oh looks like grandpa needs his diapy changed
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>>521009542
>explain why SOFR finalized the American Revolution after centuries

Lolberts' heuristics are simply inadequate. Romney stole the primary from him, and perhaps things might be better-- tariffs ARE NOT INFLATIONARY (and only apparently so near term) when margins with coolie slave labor are so astronomical, and have ample precedent from when things weren't fucked between Johnson and Harding.
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>>521009542
Ron /pol/ is always right, but he is only one man.
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>>521009542
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>>521014415
>tariffs increase the price of goods
>somehow, this is not inflationary
Please explain.
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>>521014720
I don't give a fuck about the tariffs, he could have been floating on easy street if he unhinged his jaw from Israel cock and stand up straight and dislodge the Corporate cocks out of his ass.
Also fuck his 'Big Beautiful Bill".
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>>521013179
Inflation is only 3%. You don’t know what inflation is lmao.
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>>521014989
What’s wrong with the Big Beautiful Bill? Did you also not like Biden’s infrastructure bill?
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>>521014721
Inflation is specifically when the currency is debased. Walmart charging more for food isn’t inflation.
Americans are so uneducated it hurts.
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>>521015124
>Did you also not like Biden’s infrastructure bill?
No I didn't, what infrastructure was fixed by Biden?
Spending Changes: While the bill increases certain federal spending by $325 billion,
Estimated Deficit Increase
Aspect Estimated Impact
Total cost over 10 years $3.4 trillion
Additional interest on national debt Over $4 trillion
Increase in federal deficits $3.3 trillion
0jkkx
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>>521015161
No, that’s not true. Inflation is quite literally higher prices for goods. Money can depreciate as a result of this, but money can also be bolstered by different means. You are confusing depreciation with inflation. Walmart charging more for food is inflation by definition.
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>>521015161
>Inflation is specifically when the currency is debased.
Inflation refers to the general increase in prices and the decrease in the purchasing power of money, which can occur due to various factors, including currency debasement. However, inflation is not solely defined by debasement; it encompasses broader economic conditions affecting prices
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>>521015328
> what infrastructure was fixed by Biden?
Nothing. I just wanted to see if you were consistent.
>>521015356
No, you’re retarded. Do you think sales tax is inflationary?

Inflation is specifically when the currency loses value, so it takes more of it to buy the same goods. Welcome to fiat currency, nigger.

You’re the perfect example of why America is fucked. You people don’t even know the meaning of the words you use.
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Ron Paul 2028, make it happen Ameribros, you know he was right all along
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>>521015463
> Inflation refers to the general increase in prices
No, it doesn’t. That’s just what uneducated, retarded Americans think because they were taught incorrectly as a joke.
You’re a joke. Learn what inflation actually is you stupid fuck.
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isnt ron paul dead
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>>521015487
>Nothing. I just wanted to see if you were consistent.
Even if I wasn't wouldn't change the point being wrong you whataboutism faggot midwit.
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>>521015533
So you're just retarded?
Understanding Inflation and Currency Debasement
Definition of Inflation

Inflation refers to the general increase in prices of goods and services over time, leading to a decrease in the purchasing power of money. It is typically measured using a price index, such as the Consumer Price Index (CPI). When inflation occurs, each unit of currency buys fewer goods and services.
What is Currency Debasement?

Currency debasement is the reduction of a currency's intrinsic value without changing its face value. Historically, this was done by lowering the precious metal content in coins. In modern contexts, debasement often involves increasing the money supply, which can lead to inflation.
Relationship Between Inflation and Debasement

While inflation can result from various factors, including demand and supply shocks, currency debasement is one specific cause. When a government increases the money supply to manage debt or fund expenditures, it can lead to inflation as the value of the currency diminishes.
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>>521015556
Nigger what the fuck are you even saying. No wonder you keep confusing monetary inflation with price increases.

Retarded, uneducated, worthless American mutts.
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>>521015487
If you want to invent your own definition of inflation, that’s fine, but it doesn’t make me retarded.
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>>521015606
Where did you source that load of shit from? You are conflating price increases with monetary inflation.
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>>521013947
>congressional pay
is a drop in the bucket. congress makes it money through insider trading and allotting juicy contracts to their friends and family
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>>521015646
Where did you source that bullshit from? This is literally the same as them redefining immunity under Covid.
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>>521015610
>Nigger what the fuck are you even saying
This tell me all I need to know, You're "Developmentally Disabled".
Blame it on your nurture not your nature.
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>>521009542
We? Its not like ron is some pleb. Then again the guy has been more demented than biden for years so who knows who is posting under his name now. In any event lolberts are just mad about trumps tarriffs. We tried what they wanted for decades and it brought us to this.
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>>521009614
Fpbp
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>>521015732
He made a video you fucking retard
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>raise the prices in the store you own
>”damn inflation!!! It’s not dead!!”
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Ron is right. Tump cannot be trusted as a source of information anymore. He's a iiar and had a stroke a few weeks back.

Trump is fucking nigger
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>>521015606
You retards were taught wrong, as a joke.
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>>521009542
and you got all taxed out the ass and they dont even dare to call it a tax but a tariff. A tariff that americans pay not other nations.
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>>521015700
The Federal Reserve lmao. Let me guess: your own special definition of inflation is right and the fed is wrong? At least today you can say you’ve learned the difference between inflation and depreciation.
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>>521011778
Good thought.
>>521009542
Ron Paul is absolutely right. Trump got over on a stage full of pro-war republicans back in 2015 because Trump was the anti-war voice.
God bless Ron Paul.
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>>521015820
>Literally the first box in his image
Kek
A fucking retarded faggot.
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>>521015774
Reading some script. Biden did that too you know. Now read the rest of the post and learn something.
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>>521015860
see
>>521015820
you are letting government employees change the definition of words in order to manipulate you.

Imagine being that fucking stupid.
>>521015894
Nigger, do you not understand how these three things are not the same?

Monetary inflation is traditionally what “inflation” means. Retarded American education allowed politicians to take the word “inflation” and apply it to price hikes.
You fuckers are retarded and deserve suffering.
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>>521015774
lol
You encountered a terminally contained /pol/ user
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>>521015997
>traditionally what “inflation” means.
So you're deliberately being retarded?
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DEAR LEADER WOULD NEVER LIE, HE'S MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, HE'S GONNA GIVE US MONEY
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>>521015487
I use the same definition of inflation as you, but you don't need to go that hard on that other anon (>>521015356
), he's talking about pretty much the same concepts but with swapped significants. What he does get wrong is that, seemingly, he thinks that money devaluation is a consequence of the increase of prices (what he calls inflation), but in reality it's that the increase of prices can happen either because of money devaluation (what we call inflation) or other reasons (what I call relative price increase). Either case, the price increase is a symptom of an underlying problem and not the cause, and the real cause is always deeper than "muh grocery stores are greedy".
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>>521016115
Nigger I was in school 3 years ago for this shit and they were still teaching that monetary inflation is the only inflation.

You’re being manipulated and you’re too stupid to understand it. We use to distinguish between price hikes and inflation because inflation (being monetary inflation) had a very specific and very important application.

I hate you ignorant fucks so much.
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>>521015997
Wow. You are actually doubling down on this. Yeah maybe the government has gone through and covertly changed the definition of inflation across all websites and physical books. It’s up this one single anon (You) who has the real definition of inflation (which sounds suspiciously like depreciation) that nobody else can seem to remember.

This got me a good laugh for the evening, so thanks for that.
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>>521016138
I’m seething because this purposeful conflation between monetary inflation and price increases is done on purpose for political reasons.

The same shit happened under Covid when they needed to redefine what constituted immunity. I fucking hate how these uneducated NIGGERS are so stupid that this shit works on them 100% of the time.
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>>521016221
>Blah, blah blah, I was told by a school this is what it means even though language is fluid and meanings change or get broaden
Tell me more midwit.
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>>521016256
>as commonly understood
They even explain it to you right there. The public is so fucking stupid that they’ve conflated inflation with price increases.

You’re retarded and uneducated.
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>>521009542
Drumpf is a jew read karl marx
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Will anything ever happen?
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>>521016335
> language is fluid
If language is fluid then authorities get to redefine your reality whenever the fuck they want.

You people deserve to every misery you experience LOL
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>>521009542
Has Ron Paul ever done anything except chirp from his tree perch?
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>>521016138
I’m not denying that money can be devalued (or gain appreciation) and affect prices or vice versa, but a rise in price is inflation, simple as. The cause of the inflation can be debated all day long, but the simple definition of inflation can not.
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>>521016440
>If language is fluid then authorities get to redefine your reality whenever the fuck they want.
And they do each year you fucking retarded midwit.
What's Immunity?
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>>521016383
>Drumpf is a jew read this other jew
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>>521009542
Cousins.
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>>521016499
You’re quite literally referring to two different concepts when you say inflation.
> a, but a rise in price is inflation
This is price increasing. Call it inflation if you want, but it’s completely unrelated to
> The cause of the inflation can be debated all day long
This inflation, which is monetary inflation. This is the inflation people debate on what causes.

You’re conflating two separate things under the same word, and you don’t understand the difference.
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Everything is fine stop being retarded look at the numbers
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>>521016500
Yea and that’s why jews control your life, and you sit here and accept the rules they set for you.
You’re retarded and are a perfect demonstration of the problem in the world.
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>>521016648
Now I will accept this post as being authentic and truthful.
Midwit is ahead by one point as of now.
>>521016694
Damn he lost it that quick. sorry midwit.
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>>521016770
Who gives a fuck about what you accept? You’re uneducated lol.
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>>521016828
>Who gives a fuck about what you accept?
kek
You're finally getting it, aren't you midwit?
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>>521016893
What does this have to do with you not having a strong grasp on language or the meaning of words?
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>>521009542
Trump just gave the greatest flyover ever and people are complaining about the economy? Seriously?
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>>521009995
DOPEY DON
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>>521009542
MIGA really doesn't like Ron Paul. That's how you know Ron Paul is right. He's been right for 50 years with no waffles in his system. Crazy how awesome he is. What's even crazier is there was a chance to elect him in 2006 and the US said, "No."
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>>521009542
At least he isn't fudging the numbers like biden was
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>>521009542
It's lights and shadows anon. Low gas price, good, high groceries, bad. It's gonna take time to fix this. It's easier to destroy than it is to create.
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>>521016922
Shit held out to much hope for you didn't I midwit, sorry you don't get it, or anything else it seems.
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>>521009542
No fucking shit. Trump lies as he breaths.
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>>521016972
You're a nigger poser from twitter though?
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>>521016648
Earlier, when you said a raise in prices was not inflation, you were wrong. It is, by your own definitions, a type of inflation. This kind of inflation can occur independently of monetary inflation. Why, in this original post >>521015997 did you argue that price hikes are not inflation when, in this post >>521015820, you concede that it is a type of inflation?

I’m dying to hear.
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>>521016972
>He's been right for 50 years with no waffles in his system.
Explain, He's been right about a system he's never got inact4d or wrote polices voted on about anything? How?
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>>521009542
Based Paul has always been based.
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"Trump is making the economy worse" is a limited hangout for the real problem, Trump is a blackmailed pedophile kike
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>>521011888
Witnessed.
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>>521016318
What you say is true, but you have to be more understanding. Insulting people will get them farther from the truth. I understand that this website is like a release valve for many people, including myself, since I have insulted two groypers calling for collapse and I got called shitskin as a consequence. But if you are in the verge of getting your point across, because you were (he understood that price increases do not always mean money devaluation), it's a bad idea to go full seething mode. You could have proceeded to explain all the central banking thing and why we call that the real inflation.
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>>521017066
Because there use to be a time when Americans were more educated and knew that price hikes were not inflation, since inflation was very specifically a monetary term.

However, now there are so many Americans who think price increases are inflation, that authorities are simply going with the dumbing down of society.

Point is, inflation use to have a very specific reservation for monetary inflation because it’s a VERY important concept. However, people are too stupid for this now.

Before Covid, this wasn’t an issue.
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>>521017128
Me being kind to people isn’t going to revert the trend of uneducated people misusing the term inflation.
Me insulting retards on /pol/ isn’t going to change anything, either.
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>>521017181
>Got so assblasted the midwit broke down to reddit spacing
kek
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>>521009542
this fucking retard doesn't notice the middle class was destroyed by his lolbertarian policies of globalist free markets
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>>521017276
globalism is basically globalized socialism or communism, you could say it was neocolonialism but the fact that it uses socialist racial rhetoric to flood the west with brown people makes it different
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>>521009542
>most layoffs in 22 years
>90% are parasitic government and public sector jobs

Ron Paul is fucking retarded
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>>521014721
inflation is devaluation of money you fucking retard
tariffs are selective and only effect goods that are imported
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>>521017181
So you posted an image that goes against everything you believe >>521015820 (there are multiple types of inflation) to help prove your point that there is really one true type of inflation—monetary inflation—and that giving credibility to other conceptions of “inflation” is heresy. I fail to see the coherence of this argument.
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>>521017519
Anon, the image affirms my entire point: if you don’t specify what you mean when you say “inflation”, you’re likely confusing the topic.

For this very reason, educated individuals reserve the word “inflation” for monetary inflation. You’d know this if you had an education.
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>>521017471
You don’t know what devaluation means.
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>>521017648
He seems to understand it just fine.
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>>521017600
>For this very reason, trained monkey individuals reserve the word “inflation” for monetary inflation. You’d know this if you were a trained monkey.
kek
still appealing to authority like a good little midwit.
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>>521017359
globalism is pure distilled capitalism
it's chasing cheaper and cheaper labor and fewer associated costs in manufacturing like environmental regulations which are then leveraged against the host countries in which the capital for investment in production comes

lolbertarianism is the most kikest form of economy ever, even more so than marxism
at least with marxism there is a facade of wanting for a nation to do well for all, instead of just everyone being a greedy kike
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>>521012044
>>521013084
>NOO YOU AREN'T LIVING UP TO MY STRAWMAN HOW COULD THIS BE
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>>521017068
>>521017059
Look at the miggers and kikes so upset. It's great.
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>>521017600
I present to you the original post in which you argue there is only one type of inflation and a rising price of goods is not inflation.
>>521015161
Now you’re telling me that there are multiple ways of defining it but you have to be specific but also the truly educated know the real definition and can use the term appropriately. In essence, you chimped out when I said rising prices are inflation and then walked it back under the guise that, while that’s true, there is an elite definition used by intellectuals.
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>>521017822
Point and laugh at the trained monkey
Who will die repeating the shit it "learned"
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Of course he is lying.

America is a steep decline economical and will crash with no survivors.

But before that happens, there will be war with China, so it doesn't matter anyhow.

Same goes for Europe, by the way.
Just with Russia as the final opponent.
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>>521017892
There is only one type of inflation: monetary inflation.
A lot of websites extend that term to price increases because there are so many people confused about the actual term, such as yourself.

You don’t seem to understand that the term was extended beyond its purpose to adhere to uneducated people who were misusing the term.
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the economy of the west is so fucked that it's going to take literal decades before the middle class starts growing again
and that's if the political leadership has the balls to weather the pain since things have to get worse before they get better as all the phony parts of economy wither away and die

I doubt Trump has the fortitude to stay the course since he is a complete narcissist
the fag in control of economic policy is correct in tariffs but they will take years to start being beneficial
the problem is if nothing is done, the economy will just continue to get worse and worse for 90% of the population until it is making the same income as people in Bangladesh
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>>521017736
https://www.omfif.org/2024/07/dont-confuse-dollar-depreciation-with-devaluation/
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>>521017751
>globalism is capitalism
Nah, globalism is neocolonialist imperialism justified with communist rhetoric. It ignores international laws and borders and actively displaces native populations of white countries while also using white people existing as collateral for investment

It's basically a dream come true for communists, there's a reason why so many socialist jews came to the US
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>>521018087
Inflation isn’t depreciation. Depreciation is, again, a very specific financial term.
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>>521017991
>You don’t seem to understand that the term was extended beyond its purpose to adhere to uneducated people who were misusing the term.
How can a midwit be so close to understanding but yet...
>Thing didn't exist...But they themselves stretched the term to cover shit it USED to not
so close midwit.
Reasoning never mattered, reality does, midwit.
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>>521009542
he's right about the layoffs, they are about to cut a bunch of people off where I work and personally this has been a long time coming because its union and in the union you can literally not preform and collect a check. I dont care who they scape goat this off on, whether its right to or not, but these people have had this coming for a very long time. im sure ubi will happen sooner rather than later, i would bet my life on it its before 2030 otherwise there will be riots on the streets.
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>6nnGIUq+
>pedantic douchebag puts foot in mouth
>gets called out
>now has to dance to save his fragile ego

Everytime
You love to see it
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>>521018150
inflating the money supply is in fact depreciating the currency
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>>521018087
> OMFIF is an independent think tank for central banking,
lol
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>>521017230
I don't know if you are exactly a libertarian, just because you understand what inflation is about you don't have to be necessarily a libertarian. But I am, and as such I believe in free market principles for education, that is, I think that small decentralised decisions of many people can lead to prices or, in this case, a cultural shift. If you are going to spend time writing about this topic on the internet, I think it's better to do it so that it's more likely that you convince someone of the truth, because maybe that way you are getting a little closer to a cultural shift aligned with your ideas. There lies the difference between 4chan being an almost waste of time and a literal and total waste of time.
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>>521018150
Inflation is not devaluation. That’s what I’m trying to show.
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>>521018157
basically let the hammer drop already, quick pain is the bestest paint there is. the problem is, will they allow it to drop?
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>>521018226
Depreciation adheres to a schedule. It’s planned and purposeful.
Inflation isn’t planned nor does it adhere to a schedule.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/depreciation.asp
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>>521018130
this is the same level of cringe as 'democrats are the real racist' or 'China is communist'
China, the most profitable nation on Earth, the most capitalistic, is 'communist'
ok bro


>>521018087
>By (((Mark Sobel)))
ok bro
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>>521018361
Yes china is centrally planned and highly dysfunctional, they are socialist
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>>521018305
Technically true, but again this gets down into financial lexicon.

Inflation does mean the currency is losing value (against other goods), but this isn’t necessary the same as devaluation. This is why I think the definitions and usage of these financial terms needs to be guarded.
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>>521018341
You have it flipped. Devaluation is intentional. Depreciation occurs naturally. This is why the Trump admin accused china of intentionally devaluing their own currency. You cannot intentionally depreciate a currency—it just happens.
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>>521018226
Not necessarily. There's controversy even inside the Austrian school regarding the definition of inflation. Some of them define inflation simply as "increase in the money supply". But in my opinion, and for some Austrian economists, inflation can't be defined like that because the demand for money can increase more than the supply, or exactly the same, which wouldn't lead to price increase due to currency devaluation.
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>>521018513
the us central bank printing money causing inflation and depreciation of the dollar is also intentional
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>>521018513
The way you explain it makes it seem like inflation is depreciation, which is incorrect.
I don’t think you can accurately apply the term depreciation to a currency.
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>>521018620
Depreciation has a term of consideration, so I don’t think it’s proper to apply it to currency.

This is why the term inflation needs to be safe guarded. It’s hard to explain monetary inflation with other terms.
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>>521018690
I do not think depreciation is inflation. I’m responding this anon >>521017471 who is arguing that devaluation of a currency on its face is inflation, which is not true.
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>>521009542
>Inflation is not dead!
I voted for Ron Paul but later realized he advocated for austerity measures all the while boomers and genx were hoarding currency into stock portfolios and voting for laws that made future generations indentured servants to the gov't. Fuck him.
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>>521018605
>if demand for dollars is high enough then printing more dollars isn't inflation
nani the fuck
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>>521009542
>Jewish Pedo Trump is lying
Yeah, no shit. Felt fucking great to see this scumbag get booed by all at the NFL sportsball game today though. Glad this piece of shit is learning that everyone now hates him, including most of his former cheerleaders, before he goes to hell. Only a small handful of miggers left and luckily they won't last very long. Good riddance.
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>>521009542
We've been in stagflation since 2021 and nobody wants to admit it
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>>521018819
Hmm, I’d argue that he’s using the improper term of devaluation (as in loses value) instead of the actual, financial term “devaluation”.

I honestly think politicians should be shot when they use financial terms as a part of their rhetoric. It would solve a lot of issues.
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>>521018895
we probably never actually left the stagflation of the 70's they just fudged the socialist numbers until things were showing green on the charts
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>>521009542
RON PAUL
FIGHT THE POWER
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>>521018489
>This is why I think the definitions and usage of these financial terms needs to be guarded.
Fuck you I used to try to guard the etymology of all words 10 years a go, but you faggots kept destroying those you didn't like.
I will never forgive those retards trying to inflate Natural Immunity and Vaccinations, as well as the dumbass Amerimutts turning "Nigger" into some discommodation of intelligence.
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>>521019012
Please stop my sanity can only take so many hits. The thought that all of our economic metrics have been fake since the 70s keeps me up at night.
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>>521015161
so when a loaf of bread cost 10million in post-ww1 Germany, that was just local stores charging more.

ok, retard.
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>>521019096
That was monetary inflation.
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>>521019091
When do you think the government took housing off of inflation calculations?
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>>521019136
Anon please stop
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>>521019271
I have walked the abyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVGcRNotCAE
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>>521019130
Given your strict definition of inflation, is it possible to be in an inflationary environment without any change to the money supply?
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>>521009542
1pbtid spam
>>521009720
why do people bump threads? are these anons paid to attempt to force engagement?
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>>521019435
Typically the inflationary environment is caused by a change to the money supply.
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>>521012802
When the central bank decreases the quality of the base money, the results are
>recessions
>price increases (inflation)
>people demand higher interest rates
>banking crises
>boom and bust cycles
These many things happen when the central banksters turn money into counterfeit money.
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>>521018856
Not when the demand is high enough, but when the demand grows the same or even more than the supply. If the real economy grows, the normal thing to happen is an increase of the demand for money, because one of the functions of money is as unit of account of commodities, and if there's the same amount of money for an increasing amount of commodities, prices will have to be lowered, which negatively affects coordination, because of the required cognitive readaptation to prices and because not all prices have the same flexibility (salaries, for example, are a price, and their renegotiation is much slower than changing the price of a product).

So central banks do a good thing by printint money, the thing is that they do it horribly bad because it's a centralised system. In a free banking system we would probably get inflation rates close to 0% while increasing the money supply every year.
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>>521019433
I’m becoming disturbed as I realize fixing this debt slavery would also collapse everything I’ve ever known.
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>>521019521
but the US doesn't have a real economy because it's forced to run a permanent trade deficit to supply the world with dollars
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>>521019512
So can you have inflation without changing the money supply? For example, shortages of a good or higher demand for a good (demand pull inflation) result in higher prices over time. Is this inflation in your framework?
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>>521009542
Ron Paul will always be a based nigga. Anything he says is libertarian approved so he will always be right on the economy.
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>>521019672
No, because the value of the currency isn’t affected by supply shortages.
>>521019612
Feels GREAT knowing that we inflate ourselves into poverty to prop up China, Japan and the UK (and the rest of the world).

Just let it burn already.
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>>521009542
Ron Paul, the most based politician of my lifetime.
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>>521019781
Rather the US is bleeding value out of the US in order to fund geopolitical rat races with china which is using our fake economy tactics to prop up their instant ramen government
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>>521018419
they are national socialist, not communist
communism means no private property or businesses
China is facist

>>521019012
basically, but its ramped up since the internet hypercharged globalists abilities

A countries economy doesn't run on the earnings on the top 5%, which is the only segment that has made money in the past 40 years
everyone else is functioning in debt and now people are literally earning less and having to work more
because they are competing directly with people in other countries that get paid 4 cents an hour and their businesses don't have to deal with crushing taxes and regulations
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>>521019781
What if this happens on a massive scale? The costs of goods go up across the board because of higher demand, but the money supply remains the same. Everyone is paying higher prices, maybe because of a growing population and stagnant production capabilities, and the money certainly appears to be worth less, but the money supply itself has not been touched.

This is not inflation? This is…rising prices?
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>>521009542
As always, Ron Paul is right about everything.
Fuck MIGA.
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>>521020069
go back to twitter faggot
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>>521019889
We are coupled with the Chinese economy, who is the one holding a shit ton of our currency to facilitate the other side of this dumb ass trade paradigm.
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>>521019271
>>521019136
>>521019091
this happened primarily in 1994 under Clinton
they injected shit like people buying a tv every year (which no one does, but it fucks the equation because consumer electronics is one of the only areas where costs have lowered...they then over weigh this even more because they say, 'the new TV has brighter colors so it's actually like doubly important') to be weighed as much as housing costs
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>>521009542
WHAAT HE NEVER LIED BEFORE
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>>521020047
Anon, it’s really simple. Inflation is when the value of the currency changes against everything else.
Only the value of the currency changes. That is the nature of inflation.
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>>521019724
libertarianism is what shipped all the middle class jobs over to china so kike bankers can make billions

lolbertarians need to be gassed
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>>521020132
Huh right around the time they shipped our entire industry overseas. Interesting coincidence.

We’ve been getting fucked since before we were even born.
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pencil status: choked
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>>521010065
We need an Ultralibertarian movement in this country.
Income taxation is fucking slavery, Fuck R's and D's. Deport all politicians.
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>>521020126
China's economy is completely fake but since all investment is just speculation western governments are sending them money in order to make money. They don't actually care if there's any value. Meanwhile the wealth is increasingly concentrating at the top because of this and nothing of actual value is being produced. Take for instance, bitcoin, green energy and AI. All scams to get speculative investment to ramp up
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>>521020330
Well the truth is that we share a piece of this globalism economy with China. When we refer to their economy we are referring to the opposite side of the same coin.
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>>521020227
Govt asshole licking right wingers go directly into the ovens first
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>>521020047
More than 6 trillion dollars has been printed in the last 10 years, central bank money printing is rising exponentially, it's simply not sustainable, and remember, the government bankers did this, they are responsible.
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>>521019672
Yes, you can. Anything that affects to the reputation of a currency can cause inflation due to demand decrease, it's not just due to increase of the money supply. If the fed says tomorrow "the fed will no longer be an independent organization, it will be from now on linked to the government", the dollar will depreciate rapidly. One may argue that the dollar would depreciate because dollar owners would expect that the new monetary regime would increase the money supply irreponsibly in order to fund the state, but at that moment there's not any increase in money supply per se.
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>>521020399
Right we're investing in them and always have, but that doesn't mean that we're intrinsically linked to them. Naturally if china collapsed like it should, like japan, people would stop sending them money.

But china really doesn't want this so, now I'm putting on my tinfoil hat, they fund initiatives in the west like green energy, bitcoin and AI in order to "buy off" western investment
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>>521017600
Can we agree that "the price" of everything at the store I shop at has gone up 100% in the last 6 months? Yes. So to me than, the value of my money is 50% of what it was when I banked it? Yes. Who cares what someone who teaches a pseudo-science based on thought-experiment clean lab conditions that have never existed calls it. In a country without an SEC, FTC, CPB, and an IRS, you may as well have a degree in phrenology, alchemy, or hanging out with your friends. Economic terms and principles are fucking gibberish when cartels hold markets. Way to go college booknigger.
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>>521020436
Deport all bootlickers, deport all central bank supporters.
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>>521020559
We are linked insofar as the current equity market’s valuation is linked to our trade with China.
Personally I think the stock market can take a hit while we decouple, but seems like the senate is close to getting their way with the tariffs so the decoupling might not be successful.
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>>521020579
Where do you live? Prices have remained consistent for me.
Eggs and produce went down but meat went up, so all in all it’s a wash.

100% seems like histrionics. Using emotions to understand politics is stupid.
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>>521020643
decoupling will come naturally as it becomes increasingly difficult for them to keep up the charade that they're a developing country, that's probably where US foreign policy comes in and they're like "alright bet" and hurling money at AI.

Then again if the president came out and started pointing out every way their economy isn't real that would probably flip them instantly. The only reason they don't is because the entire western financial system is also fake
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>>521020579
>Can we agree that "the price" of everything at the store I shop at has gone up 100% in the last 6 months?
Last 6 months? No
Last 5 years? Yes
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even the dumbest, black, shitskin migger in America knows that Trump is lying about the economy
the only people pretending he's not are jews
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>>521009542
>Blump is a sack of lies
Voted for this. It‘s a thrilling shit politics, Mister President, don‘t stop talking shit.
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>>521020773
> The only reason they don't is because the entire western financial system is also fake
Bankers and our politicians are pencil neck bitches. I’m worried that everyone on both sides will chicken out and just double down on our inflationary, debt driven global economy.

Although if the political news from China is true, the global capital faction might be losing popularity. But who knows if that news is real or not.
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>>521009614
>aaaahahahah Trump lied and the woke lib trannys are mad that we're letting him get away with it, and also letting him be a pedo protector with no accountability!
/pol/ has to be loving this.
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>>521020891
>I’m worried that everyone on both sides will chicken out and just double down on our inflationary, debt driven global economy.
but that's exactly what they're doing? Why do you think the CIA/pentagon wants people to hate china? We're trying to make them pop
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>>521009542
I would agree with him, but he disagreed with me when I made this exact same point 3 years ago when the US government was factually ordering dissenting citizens to be silenced from social media (according to the documents that literally every social media outlet passed into the House investigation report) while making multiple public announcements that the economy is just better and everyone who thinks it isn't is living in an imaginary second fake economy.

He's not being real. His discussion is far too late and far too disingenuous.
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>>521021039
I don’t think the CIA has any cognitive function anymore. They’re just running on scripts left by their predecessors.

Or maybe they’re just so consumed by international concerns that they forget about how such decisions influence domestic opinion.
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>>521021181
you think the cia ever once gave a shit about domestic policy? they're just attack dogs for US interests abroad. they literally sold cocaine in the US so they could fund anti-communist forces
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>>521020579
The value of a currency does not depend solely on the prices of a given country. The dollar is the global reserve currency, which is clear when you go abroad and bring your dollars to buy things for the same price or just slightly more expensive due to the real inflation caused by a disproportion between money supply increase and demand for money. Any increase over that, which is what you experience, is not inflation and can't be attributed to the currency itself but to tariffs or whatever. Tariffs increase prices and are not good for the economy but you shouldn't call it inflation. In order to demand solutions you have to understand the causes and use different words for each cause, you may call it "economic terms gibberish" but that way you are only putting yourself in a manipulable and vulnerable situation under which you can only point out symptoms and not the illness.
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>>521021241
I think they at one time at least knew how to keep their deeds from becoming public. Maybe that was just a function of the media.
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>>521021388
well the dems cut their funding, then again if you were implicated in an assassination why would you deserve funding
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>>521021487
I prefer the CIA that did Iran contra over the CIA that did russiagate.
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>>521021584
They're probably the same people considering they're all connected to the clintons and epstein and the bush's, you'd probably have to go back to the founding of the CIA to get the real commie killers

they've probably since been coopted by private interests to be dogs for some other team
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>>521021241
>they're just attack dogs for US interests abroad. they literally sold cocaine in the US so they could fund anti-communist forces
Revilo P. Oliver called the OSS the "Office of Soviet Stooges" because they had so many (((Bolshevik sympathizers)))
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>>521021584
>48 POSTS
this site is so infested with psychotic retard shitskins

this site is proof that humanity cannot survive without a total collapse to annihilate the genetic garbage
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>>521021894
Right they're probably all democrat socialists (socialists) fighting for the US position in this globalist communist system, and honestly it's not their fault because that's what they were created for, to beat everybody. Kind of like how the DOJ is about protecting the state and not dispensing justice, which is what it was designed for

This is why people like jefferson are so important
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>>521009542
Dr. Ron Paul is correct. As usual, the economy is getting worse for everyone who isn't a stock market banker. The system perpetuated by every politician for the last century, especially Trump, has done nothing but to further diminish the economic power of the average American while further engrossing the economic power of these people. But I'm sure you voted for this. Don't call it a grave. It's the future you chose.
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>>521010999
>pedophile
but enough about Trump
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>>521021746
At some point the current crowd gained control as the ones under Bush Sr retired. It’s probably a mix of people appointed under Bush and Clinton.

But who cares they all belong in the stocks.

>>521022027
>how dare you hold discussions on 4chan!
Newfags get the rope.
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>>521021359
Here’s what I don’t understand. If demand-pull inflation is caused by prices that are raised in response to supply shock or increased demand, how is it different for prices that are raised via tariffs? Is it fair to say that long-standing tariffs, when applied broadly, could cause inflation in the same way?
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>>521022305
> If demand-pull inflation
No such thing.
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>>521022272
I don't know I don't see any change in CIA policy abroad. Anybody that poses a risk to the status quo is crushed. Unless of course you call couping the 2020 election to give it to biden so that he would start a war in ukraine a change in policy

but then you'd still be wrong because if you think they killed kennedy, then they did it so that LBJ would start a war in vietnam. Would you interpret LBJ then opening US borders an explicit CIA policy? I don't think I'd assign them that much influence
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>>521009542
You don't even need Ron Paul to say it. It's obvious how fake and gay the economy is.

Ron Paul actually said Trump's first term, up until Covid, did some decent things for the economy. This term so far is just a bunch of jeet scams and Jewish tricks.
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>>521022305
Inflation is caused by printing new money, which devalues all existing money proportionally.
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>>521022421
Alright dude I already know your position which is that numerous terms that exist and are used regularly don’t mean anything. I’m listening to the other guy now.
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>>521022472
oh also can't forget about cuba
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>>521022520
As this anon points out, inflation can occur independently of money printing
>>521020524
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>>521022472
I don’t think there’s been any policy changes, but the current batch are implementing a policy created by people who aren’t around anymore, which is why the cracks are showing.

As for your second statement, I’m not sure. At one point, our security state controlled and directed the corporate class. Maybe the security state became corrupt enough that it started taking funds from donors, who now run the show.

I think we use to have a class of corrupt politicians that didn’t cede power via bribes or lobbying. I think this class was of the generation of Bush Sr and they are all dead or dying.
The ones who took their place have no morals and gladly sell their influence to the highest bidder, which does a good job at explaining everything wrong with the world today.
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>>521022593
You literally created a new term trying to cope and defend your (incorrect) understanding of this topic.

The amount of anons siding against you should give you a hint.
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>>521022779
there's never been a point in US history that politicians were above greed, the foundational of the "imperial bank", largely developed by the british, is about institutionalized corruption
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>>521022663
>inflation can occur independently of money printing
Prices and go up independently of money printing, but inflation is, by definition, caused by money printing. That's why they try so desperately to conflate the two concepts.
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>>521022830
Demand-pull inflation is a term used by fucking everyone I don’t know how you can say with a straight face that it doesn’t exist. It’s just retarded. Everyone but you is just making terms up and using them incorrectly?
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>>521022663
You don’t seem to understand what Spanish anon is saying.

If confidence in a currency is zero, people will be getting rid of their currency just as fast as they gain it. This occurred in Weimar and is what that anon is describing.

Fundamentally, this is not caused by the supply or demand of the goods being purchased. It can be exasperated by low supply, causing the inflation to become more severe.
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>>521020318
>goy has an opinion
its all so tiresome
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>>521022994
Anon, that paper is way above your weight class. You’re still struggling with understanding exactly what inflation is.

Protip: the demand and cost in that paper is in regards to the currency. Not the goods purchased by said currency.
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>>521023038
No really, we need to be creating private societies where politicians, bankers and government bureacrats aren't allowed, like the free state project.
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>>521023141
I’m simply showing you that it exists. That’s where we are. When you said it didn’t exist >>521022421 what exactly did you mean?
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>>521023276
Anon, you are confusing demand of a good/service with demand of a currency.
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>>521023336
>>521023276
I’ve also given you the answer here.
>>521023037
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>>521009614
> > trump lied
>no shit
fpbp

Trump may look white but he's a jew through and through.
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>>521009542

>Ron Paul is always right
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>>521022944
Well at a certain point the contesting of greed led to a certain semblance of stability. But I guess that was before our current banking paradigm, when there was more than one master in town.
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>>521012483
To be fair, if there aren't any jobs left then a jobs report *is* a waste of money.
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>>521023518
The right wing is a bunch of crap and always has been, Uncle Ron would never support that crap, abolish the fed.
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Imagine having an economy that isn't based on debt. Like seriously imagine it.
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>>521009542
Ron is the only politician Id actually be happy to vote for
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>>521023658
>abolish the fed
Wow, anti-Semitic much?
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Okay, here is the IMF explaining it. Are you satisfied with this definition? Is this another case of the powers that be intentionally obfuscating the real definition of inflation? Because it is very clear that they are arguing that inflation can occur via domestic supply shock and can occur independently of money printing.
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>>521023570
if somebody like jackson destroyed the fed the entire global economic system would collapse and most third and second world countries would starve, that's who we're paying for. The US government "grew" brown retards in these countries which are now reliant on the US financial system
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>>521023762
>Okay, here is the IMF explaining it
Stopped reading here
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>>521023783
So we need to resurrect Jackson. Got it.
>>521023762
Do you not know about Weimar or something?
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>>521023793
Figured. I’m surprised you got that far.
>>521023890
You dispute their explanation then? Another conspiracy to debase the real meaning of inflation?
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>>521023890
Yeah basically the reason why nobody talks about taking the government's money printer away is because that is actually the solution

All of socialism ignores the banking problem, the only ideology that identified the problem with centralized finance is liberalism.
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>>521023996
Anon, you’re throwing around definitions without understanding the topic. It’s impossible to actually communicate with you until you accept that you are new to this field.

Demand-pull inflation can happen, as it did in Weimar. However, the underlying monetary environment is what caused it. The demand due to a bunch of jobless, hungry Germans is what triggered the inflation.
Are we in such an economy? No. So what exactly are you suggesting here?
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>>521023996
>conspiracy to debase the real meaning of inflation?
I see what you did there
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>the inflation is so fucking abysmal we now have dozens of jackasses that have to come up with dozens of atomized definitions for the specific type inflation there are just to disguise how inherently broken and non functioning the system is.

"Real inflation has never been tried before"
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>>521011888
Checked
Kek confirms
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Debt based economy
>government in a perpetual debt crisis
>NEEDS massively high GDP or else it can't finance the debt
>cuts interest rates to rock bottom levels, ginning up massive consumption splurge
>everyone goes into debt to buy things they don't even need
>massive advertising industry to foist products on people they don't want or need
>resources of the earth are being burned in an orgy of consumption on useless crap
>government goes deeper in debt to "stimulate" the economy
>goes even deeper in debt to secure military positions in far-flung regions to control resources
>average American becomes an obese cow who dies at 50 from weight complications
>houses filled with useless crap they don't even fucking need

Real economy
>people save their money, only spend on what they actually need
>work less hours, invest their time on improving themselves
>spend their extra time working out, reading books, gaining spiritual enlightenment
>average man is slim and fit, owns a house, and has $2 million backstop in the bank
>innovation rate increases as humans spend less time in meaningless consumption jobs and more on creative pursuits
>outdoors becomes something livable as people go outside, and invest time and effort building monuments, trails, art projects
>more resources for core-research in science and engineering that actually advances humanity. Carbon Nanotubes.
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>>521024017
Well we are so far down the hole that taking the money printer away just collapses the entire thing.
Personally I want to be on high ground before the dam is allowed to break, but I’m sure everyone is thinking the same.
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Trump is saving the west

Ron Paul hasn't done shit
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>>521024273
>taking the money printer away just collapses the entire thing
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>>521024213
>demand-pull inflation can happen
Here’s your earlier post:
>>521022421
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>>521024315
>Trump is saving the west
hahahahahaahahahaaha fucking retard
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>>521024342
No such thing, in the context of our discussion regarding inflation in the American economy.

This is why talking to people like you is exhausting.
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>>521024017
>All of socialism ignores the banking problem
They don't ignore it. Rather centralized banking is a part of Socialism according to Moses Mordecai Levi-Karl.
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>>521024017
Absolutely true.
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>>521024453
Yes that's why globalism is actually idealized communism
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>>521024521
So we were the commies the entire time?
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>>521024315
Ron Paul's traditional values and ideas of freedom are the last hope for the west.
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>>521024548
No just after WWII
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>>521009542
/biz/fag here

we are in 2 bubble the ai bubble, and a housing bubble that is 20 times the size of the 2008 housing bubble,

and its not fully trumps fault bc this bubble was created over the past decade, the solution to the las housing crisis help create what would eventually turn in to this one but 3 things got it to this point

1. covid , the fed did alot of fuckery for the banks and thats all coming due now
2. biden, gotdamn nigger actually destroyed the economy with tempory relief that lasted 2-3 years but had an additive effect the federal reserve under his time was full speed printing money devaluing the dollar

3. trump tradewar with china

it wasent all the tarrifs that made shit worse it was china dumping tresuries and the 30 year bond market, they also manipulated the every living shit out of 2 out of their 3 currencies (2 of them are used like only in Hong Kong and with banks i guess

china did alot more fuckery than the amrican talked about , including making deals with other brics nations to begin to fuck over the gold market and use the cny to trade with each other insted of the dollar


basically things where bad , trump had goals to use levrage but then china played games

now the housing market is about to explode ame for ai market... if the deepseek ai thing happens again nividia is going to implode , open ai too rip3 trillion.

were right on the edge of bad times. economically speaking trump didnt fuck us but he did spread out asscheeks
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>>521024453
>5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
He put this ahead of the "everyone has to work" in his list of priorities btw
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>>521015555
Only on here. Nu/pol/ is brown and zoomer, there is no history beyond last Thursday.
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>>521009542
RON PAUL 2012!

HE'S GOT A CHANCE
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>>521009614
I'm already looking forward to the series of rabbi pardons at the end of his term
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>>521024330
>30 posts
>>521024273
>62 posts

the internet was not made for this
psychotic retards with no lives spamming insanity
bots

this is a reflection of society also, and a vision of its future
we can't survive with these freaks running wild
pull the plug on the whole thing and let them all starve
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>>521024625
I wouldn't care if the US government was communist if it didn't violate the constitution, then again the US government as it is today hates the constitution. If you don't have any principles you don't deserve to ruin everybody else's lives
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>>521009614
Fpbp miga cultists ass pained by the truth
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>>521024401
We were not talking about the American economy you disingenuous fucker. We weren’t even talking at all. You hopped into a post >>521022305 I made to another anon that was completely hypothetical and not rooted in the american economy specifically because you were desperate to say that demand-pull inflation didn’t exist even though nobody was talking you. faggot.
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>>521011888
Daaaayum, nigga, nice trips monkey-bro
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>>521025425
> We were not talking about the American economy
Now you’re just being disingenuous. Read the OP.
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>>521025425
Here is your proof. You yourself entered this thread to talk about the American economy.
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>>521025506
“We” (not you, not OP, but me and the anon I responded to) were not talking about the American economy when you jumped into the discussion. I can’t explain this any more clearly to you. If you can’t grasp that there are discussions within a thread that don’t include you personally and that might diverge from the original topic posted, you’re lost.
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>>521025582
It’s almost like you can begin to talk about other things that diverge from what is initially posted, say like a hypothetical scenario involving tariffs nonspecific to the US. I seem to remember someone bringing up Weimar Germany, which is strange, as it isn’t the US economy specifically…
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>>521009542
Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and ymthe rest of you niggers ruined everything.
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>>521025659
You’re being disingenuous again. You’re posting in a thread about the American economy. The Spanish anon you tried to engage with was talking in context of the American economy.

You’re so desperate for a W that you’re bending over backwards, when being correct on 4chan amounts to jack shit.
Take the lessons you’ve learned ITT to heart and go on with your life. Be happy that you now understand the nuanced discussion surrounding inflation a bit better.
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>>521025425
>31 posts
>>521024330
>30 posts
>>521024273
>62 posts

this thread is basically fake
it's being spammed by these retard shitskins and/or bots to put a short lifespan on the issue - to make it hit the post limit and go away

this is what this whole site is
this is what the whole internet is
this is what society is to a lesser degree, but soon it will catch up
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>>521025965
okay fed
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>>521025821
Yeah you’re full of shit. I asked a question about tariffs in general and you jumped into to say demand-pull inflation doesn’t exist, which is retarded; then I had to laboriously prove to you that it existed, only for you to say that it exists historically, and yada yada yada. It wasn’t about you or the American economy when I asked the anon (who isn’t you) the question that you desperately had to butt in on. Now you’re freaking out because you look stupid and your whole personality is predicated on posturing as the smartest man in the room. What an exhausting autistic cretin I ran into this evening, Good lord.
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>>521014721
>>521025762
Here is the post that started you on this downward spiral. Your desperation to connect the tariffs with inflation is what led to this disingenuous position of yours where you insist the context of the discussion somehow shifted away from the American economy.

Ironically, you demonstrate that you actually do understand what I’ve been saying when you made this comment
>>521013486
But in doing so you show that your entire driver is TDS. Economic concerns or discussion is secondary to you filling your need to bitch about Trump.
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>>521026054
We have IDs on this board, anon. Who do you think you’re fooling?
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>>521026121
It is truly inconceivable to you that a discussion can shift from the specific to the theoretical over time.
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>>521026398
Discussions don’t randomly jump to different topics without indication.
You’re just coping and trying to claim that it was of completely different context when you’ve been fishing for affirmation to your initial posts connecting tariffs to inflation.

In other words, you’re just ABSOLUTELY SEETHING that the tariffs didn’t cause inflation like you were promised.

Good night anon. Sleep tight.
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>>521009716
Name ONE libertarian empire in history (hard mode) that included brown people
>inb4 true libertarianism hasn't been tried yet
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>>521012095
fuckin this
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>>521026488
If I’ve learned anything, it’s that it is extremely difficult for autistic people to follow a thread of conversation and can land them in some embarrassing situations, which I suppose I already knew. Sleep tight anon.
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>>521026538
>Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
He didn't think it was necessary to explicate "White"
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>>521009542
>People thought that this jewish economic zone (formerly known as the nation of America) could be saved
Lmao



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