SENATE IS LIVE, VOTING ON OPENING THE GOVERNMENT IN A FEW MINUTESLOOKNER IS LIVE:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzt2UTrNNrc
>LOOKNER
a handful of us getting treated at the ER, or millions of americans going hungryI wonder which they'll care about more
>>521024347You mean the Epstein Shutdown?
>>521024347digits and it reopens
Whats going on with Schumer's tie
>>521024574Post pic
>>521024639Doesn't it look weird
>>521024639very disrespectful!
>>521024508israel
Wrap it up Chuck
>>521024347I don't get it where's the vote? This is just Chuck Schumer yapping about some bullshit.
>>521024706he's just so irrelevant, all he does is gaslight and kvetch.
rolling for no deal
>>521024721they allow for speeches before it.
Remember when we watched cozy shit on sunday nights?Who the fuck voted for this horseshit.
Me when kikes complain about coins thrown at them
>>521024721They have to "debate" first
>>521024758Why?
>>521024807because they're gay
>>521024508fuck off beaner, gtfo and stay the fuck out
Digits and nothing ever happens
AYES HAVE IT meaning they're moving to vote on the actual bill
>>521024877Shiiiiiet
>>521024861your country is a shithole now, people are self deporting because no one wants to be there anymore
>>521024877rest in piss, niggers on EBT
>>521024852No one cases about this "debate" bullshit. They should just agree on when they're going to vote on something and then vote on it. If they wanna argue about it they can just yell at each other on Xitter like they already do anyway.
i hope the government shut down lasts 1000 years
Crypto is pumping now because they might get back to business. When should we now it for sure? I wanna short this market.
>>521024978it's just regulated grandstanding time
>>521024936Because 3rd world shitters invaded it and - SOMEHOW MAGICALLY - made it like the 3rd world shitholes they fled from! Wow, amazing how that works. Turns out, when 3rd world niggers go anywhere they stay 3rd world niggers.
How do we know which side "caved" if the government opens again?
>>521024689Haggard AF
Mister COONS
>>521024347>Most powerful country in the world>Still requires some old hag to read off every fucking name for hours instead of using an electronic device
>>521025051The democrats shut down the government in order to force subsidies on Obamacare, and they didn't get it and are going to open it anyway because it looks horrible for them. Dems caved, it's over.
>>521025057Every fucking time I force myself to watch one of these votes its the first name read off. They might as well call him Mr. Nigger
>>521025051Communiggers got nothing. Obama care is going to die
>>521025098Will be funny to farm plebbit cope afterwards then
>>521025051Both intelligent sides got what they wanted. The retards voting no did not.
>>521024347
>>521024347I can hear him now>Milyanigs and the Billyanigs!
>>521024347muh Diversity Visa lottery was delayed because of this bullshithope they still post the results in May(also this year's lottery will actually cost money kek)
Cuckservatives pussy out again dems owned them
>>521025152Supposedly it's already begun LOL
>>521024861Why do you interact with Mexicans? Their homicide rate is +40. Literally true war numbers. You shouldn't even reply to people that live in such shitholes. Look at pic related. Just took it randomly from google maps. It's not Syria. It's not hell. It's your latinos. Your dear latinos create those conditions
>>521025098Fired fed workers are being rehired
>>521025212dems get nothing and the government opens, it's over
>>521024689>>521024691
>>521025261He really is a caricature lmfao>>521025252>the workers fired because dems were being uppity are being rehired Ok
>>521025254SNAP, A human right is fully funded, it's over for repukes.
>>521025051If the government opens it means the Republicans caved. After the disaster Tuesday they realize they can't punish the American people any longer even if it means the Epstein Files will be opened and Americans will now find out how much more they'll have to pay for insurance without the subsidies thanks to Republicans.
I didn't know Congress worked this late.
Just think about it. They let the governement shut down, messed the country up, gave up their own political dominance, sacrificed NY to a muslim demagogue... all to cover up for Epstein
>>521025310yea... it would've been if the democrats didn't shut down the government >>521025311>memeflaghahahahahahahahahahaha
>>521024347what is the point of naming all the senators
>>521025391They're formally voting
>>521025325This is a special case. Their private jets are in danger.
>>521025310Gibsmedat funding is hilarious. Unless you're like a 90 year old woman, begging the government for food is pathetic
>>521025391Ever see that episode of Futurama and the Bureaucracy?
>>521024508fuck off wetback
>>521025353its amazing to me how penny dreadful managed to hide her amazing sweater meat
Trump is playing a game of darkness with the senate democratsThe government will open but Schumer will receive a penalty game
>>521024508>inb4 they don't care about either of you.
>>521025249And who arms the cartels who create these conditions?Who buys their drugs?
>>521024347What do we think anons? They have enough to put this shit through or nah?
>>521025212>Cuckservatives pussy out again dems owned themAfter their Cheeto Hitler got booed and the Commander's game the Republicans have no alternative. They're already shitting their pants about midterms.
I thought filibusters required someone to take the stand and delay for as long as they can
Sooo whats the catch here?Gov opens and health insurance will increase a helluva lot more for certain people, or, gov keep it shut and everything eventually will go straight down the drain?I am pretty sure that a country as large and powerful as The US will figure out a solution to this healthcare programs no matter what.
>>521025553that would be weird, since the first issue was the excuse with which they started that whole mess to begin with
>>521025539The biggest takeaways from this>Schumer being disregarded by dems that flipped>Obamacare is a failure
>>521025353don't post kikes you filthy kike lover.
>>521025539It is how wimmin used to dress during the Victorian age. I believe I read somewhere that a good amount of them suffocated or had their internal organs damaged by the pressure
>>521025603*at
I HECKIN LOVE MY DEMOCRAT REPRESNETATIVE SAYING REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME WHILE VOTING NAYI LOVE THE ANTICHRIST
>>521025026>invadeddude, you invited usand you did it because you didn't want to pay an american citizen, and instead you went to the immigrants who were willing to work for a fraction of the priceyou only have your own countrymen to blame
What changed?Does literally anyvody know?
>>521024347that old slobby lazy fuck doesnt deserve the thread pic
>>521025622Just remember that whenever you hear about "obamacare" or the "ACA", it only refers to like 10 million people. everyone else has healthcare from their employer like a normal person. Obamacare failed and the dems waited until the last minute to ask for $1 TRILLION in subsidies to keep it alive.
>>521025622The catch here is the retarded Democrats that broke from that rest of the party are being given an IOU about a fix to the healthcare system by Republicans.The reality is they're not going to get shit and they just painted a giant target on their back to get voted out.
>>521024564you guys are going to find that suddenly Massie doesn't actually care that much
>>521025707Democrats know it's fucking horrible for them. Especially as the holiday travel season nears.
>>521025622Of course we will. There is too much tikkun olam progress here for jews to decide to sink the ship.
>>521025720So 15 million americans should just get fucked?
>>521025622>The US will figure out a solution to this healthcare programsThe solution will be whatever the powerful health insurance lobby tells the Republicans to do.
Oh my God can't they just vote on their phones or something?
>>521025589Supposedly, the only reason they are voting right now is because they have enough Democrats who have decided to flip. Without the ACA subsidy (that was the whole point of the government being shutdown in the first place) It will be a huge loss for the Democrats and expect a ton of salt>>521023524
>>521025723>giving obamacare a trillion in subsidies is "fixing" healthcareyou liberals are insane>>521025767>democrats' plan fails>WTF DRUMPFmaybe they should get a job like everyone else
>>521025622There's ways to do it. The problem is politicians are law, not medicine. Completely different kinds of work, they don't merge well. Makes it harder to teach politicians how to best manage patient care.
>>521025622>I am pretty sure that a country as large and powerful as The US will figure out a solution to this healthcare programs no matter what.It won't figure out a good one, these were covid-era subsidies enacted on a failing program during an emergency, it was literally failing 4 years ago and that's why they gave it some subsidies as part of a bargain deal they made.The problems will still be there and it costs 150 billion dollars per year in perpetuity to temporarily fix.
>>521025311>Democrats literally got zero of their demands>"b-but you caved!"The thing is reddit will probably unironically argue this.
DEMOCRATS WON
>>521025767Anon, all others are getting fucked by insurance prices being inflated
>>521025767When the dumorats don't get their way all they ever do is punish those they govern.
>>521024347No taxation without representation. Simple as. If they don't open up they get what they dished out, tyrants.
>>521025814What did they win? Which of their demands were met?
>>521024936Sayonara!
>>521024689How about that hot wife of his.
>>521025707republicans extended the period of benefits from 1 month to 1 year for this itterationdemocrats still wont take it though, they want morethey think they can get away with it by blaming republicansthe reality is they're completely alienating any centrists that still existDNC is so fucking done in the coming years, its unbelievable
>>521024568Or nothing happens, let's see.
>>521025723Why should Dems back bitter old fuck Schumer when he's out the door and he won't be doing their political careers any favors after he's gone as he is the face of this shutdown.
>>521025885It's SCHUMOVER!oy vey!
>>521025767Cut em a direct 2,000 dollar check now. It's holidays and times are hurting for everyone. Obamacare is a shithouse performance since day 1 of its launch.
Anyways it's kind of funny that whenever this happens like half of americans (the working half) pray to PLEASE PLEASE just keep the government closed forever and never spend a dollar more.Like nigger, you're bankrupt and you owe trillions of dollars, can we just hire a private 3rd party to write your checks at this point? Because you can't handle it.
>>521025767The 15 million and their families won't be happy but when Democrats take the house and senate in '26 and the presidency in '28 we'll get single payer like every other civilized country.
>>521025885Schumer is probably getting primaried out one way or another, the longest ever government shutdown and then getting literally none of your demands met? There's no way the dems can respect him after this and I don't blame them, this whole thing was one of the biggest personal fuckups I've seen a politician make in my lifetime.
>>521025985I don't work and I agree. Holy shit what a hot mess.
nigga go sit in a chair what the fuck get off the floor.
>>521024691Why was this guy going on about Trump being a "king" when he's been a politician for 30+ years?
>>521025954The filibuster axe has enough votes. Time to end this farce once and for all.
The year is two thousand and 2025.The upper legislative chamber of the history's richest empire is conducting a vote.They still need someone to fucking individually call out each person's name and ask them to shout "yay" or "nay" across the room.
>>521024347IF REPUBLICANS END THE SHUT DOWN, THEN THEY WILL CEASE TO BE AN EFFECTIVE POLITICAL POWER. TRUMP'S TARIFFS ARE GOING TO BE REVERSED. THE SHUTDOWN IS THE ONLY LEVERAGE HE HAS LEFT. CAVING WILL NOT MAKE PEOPLE LIKE HIM ANY MORE. HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO CROSS THE RUBICON NOW. THIS IS THEIR ONLY CHANCE.
>>521026063I don't know why the interns or whatever hang around so akwardly.
>>521026158kinda based, kinda cringe
This is gay. Our government is gay.
>>521026093He's elderly, bitter, has no allies left in Washington, Trump and he hate eachother. He's doing that thing old people do burning down the house around em on their way out the door and out of life.
>>521025585Sorry, I don't talk to the likes of you.Never forget that those latam chuds that talk about the "west" and how "the west has fallen" live in places like pic related. Just random pics from latam. Bloodthirsty savages with crazy homicide rates. More than 5k people live among those ruins
>>521026167Take your meds nigger
IT'S DEMOVER
>>521024347FETTERMAN!!!!
>>521024347Why are they doing this on a Sunday night?
>>521026200The US government was the gay bomb all along.
>>521026287Republicans forced them to work the weekend.
>>521026167Gas is down to 2.73. Trump is winning the midterms.
>>521026287Bump the stock market, give a good strong start for the week.
>>521026269please post salt here >>521023524
>>521024936It's a shithole because you fucked it up mojado. Pinched gente sinverguenza.
>>521024347How does it take so fucking long to count like 100 votes?
>>521024508Id rather go hungry than see you get so much as a fucking bandaid
>>521024877Tis been spoken
>>521026324just like he won last week?lmao, miggers are so fucking stupid. it must be all the jew cum in their stomachs.
>>521026063she's just like me fri would be doing the same shit
>>521026355you're already getting that anyway lmao
>>521026269We'll give a pound of flesh for Dems to own that Communist dork to run NYC, bigger picture is getting this government online and running again to support the influx of intramigration of Americans for the Holidays and Winter domestic support systems.
>>521026003Schumer is from the age of "let's all get rich together" uniparty politics, for better or for worse we are as a nation replacing reps who rail against each other in public but are cordial in private with reps who actually do hate the other side of the aisle, I imagine the reddit tier dems think of Schumer much the same way we all thought about McCain.
>>521026158and allow russian hackers to interfere with our senate votes by using a more 'modern' method?fuck no
>>521026344I don't get it either, can't they all just sit down and raise hands or press buttons or whatever?
>>521026360sit tight, you will see.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/09/government-funding-deal-on-track-to-advance-sunday-night-00644110> Republican and Democrat senators have reached a deal to end the government shutdown, after more than a month of back and forth on whether or not to extend the Covid-Era subsidies. > As part of that deal, Senate Majority Leader John Thune has promised his democrat colleagues that a vote will take place in December to extend the Covid-era subsidies that are set to expire. Basically the deal was that they'll do a vote later in the year on whether to extend the subsidies. They caved over the promise of a vote in a month on an issue that will just get voted down.LMAO!
>>521025865There are no centrists anymore.
>>521026360why don't you people ever just admit to being democrats?
>>521025720Yeah I keep on hearing that number also out of 330-340 million over there. Pretty insane and that 1T number is just astronomical.>>521025723Seems like it. Im watching it live right now myself. This is going to get interested. alsmost 40 days now. And I feel really sorry for all people over there that has to work for free and shit. Thats uncalled for. I would like my tax money over here to go to them if I could choose.
>>521026360the fact that you're acting like winning in some of the deepest blue strongholds in the country is a huge victory says a lot about how terrible the democratic party's competitive chances actually are, this is like if the Republicans were celebrating winning governorship of Nebraska. As it stands you're going to go into the midterms with a 20 seat disadvantage from redistricting right out of the gate, you'd literally need a 2008 tier dem turnout or better to get the house back, the senate just flat out isn't happening.
>>521026232You people are fucking stupid. Number go up, number go up. Just like the fucking Mayans, burning plaster to make colorful building to please winged serpent, performing massive sacrifice because land is dying, land dying because plaster run off makes land un-arable. But please, continue with your rituals. I'm sure your deity will listen and make things all better. Fucking idiots.
I think what is happening is that the progressive wins in DNC strongholds is making the more moderate dems shocked. They are ending the shutdown as a way to kill the arty faster and get rid of the Schumer and the Jefferis of the party
>>521026507>Trump
>>521026524why would i do that?
>>521026507remind me again how many people dont vote
>>521025757You always find a solution. Its why you are the greatest and always will be.>>521025769I know thats kinda a big part of the problem regardless who is in power.>>521025802Politicians have changed a lot over the years really everywhere. In my opinion we should all have had a total cleanup and replaced most of the people running things within gov.
>federal workers are going to get for the month long vacation they tookAre miggers seriously celebrating this?
>>521025261
>>521026492The deal is "end the shutdown or raik progressives taking over your party." it's clear some in the DNC made deals with the progressives to stay in charge, and moderates are killing that deal
>>521026444In every other country and every state legislature, everyone has two buttons at their desk that they press to vote. The buttons are hooked up to a computer that displays the vote totals on a screen.How are the Russians going to hack copper?
>>521025805Probably not right now. But I believe that in some time there must be some ways to handle it. I would assume that if you have a big amount of people of so many millions who will end struggeling, it will have effects today that would force gov to do something regardless if they want it or not.
>Schumer: No
>>521025051Each side will claim the other caved and we'll have to listen to troons and miggers shit up the board for the foreseeable future
>>521026590Is that true or is it just folks who have been working the whole time
>>521026549Can’t wait for you to cry about rigging again
So Trump CAVED.All that “drain the swamp” talk just to reopen the same bloated government he pretends to fight.The GOP shut everything down just to end up right back where we started.Big government wins again, and TRUMP is the one who handed it to them.
why does this lookner retard get a free pass to shill here? guy is beyond stupid
Did they save the aca?
>>521026324Trump can't win any more elections. He can't run anymore. You mean Trump backed candidates will win midterms? Ha! Sure, maybe, but do they really care about Trump, or are they just sucking his ass until his term ends. This country's problems are now beyond fixing. Shutdown must continue, Powell must spike interest rates. This is siege warfare against the line go up parasite that is sucking the life out of this country. This is siege warfare against Leviathan.
>>521026549Even Republican politicians admitted they got their shit pushed in Tuesday. Put down the crack pipe Roscoe.
>>521026360>>521026569why do you still come here to larp? go away you lost you fucking freak>>521026527especially to hold the entire government hostage to get OVER 1 TRILLION DOLLARS in fucikng subsidies to bail out their failing healthcare system
>>521026654Schumer is only saving himself, and made deals with progressives to stay in power as long as he keeps the shutdown going
>>521026662They said the people who were furloughed get paid too. So fucking retarded. Those faggots refused to process my paperwork and took a month vacation and are getting for it.
>>521026656Dems would rather this farce continue while planes are literally falling out of the sky down on people that won't make it to Thanksgiving this year. Standing by the shutdown is death for the Dems and they are too proud to admit its their fault.
>>521026549You won NJ and VA holy fuck you're insane. >>521026696Despite being a total goober he covers everything. Fox has mark levin seething for an hour on right now ffs
>>521024347Is it ogre yet?
>>521026741go suck some jew cock you anti white filthy race traitor.
>>521025051Dems lose more as they get nothing when they wanted everything. Republicans just get a black eye for having two of the longest shutdowns ever under their watch
>>521026649>There will be some way to handle itWhat about 37 trillion in debt do you not understand?There can be ways to address it, like making medications cheaper in the USA and letting insurance companies negotiate and stuff, but there will be no magic "save everything" button on american healthcare.We're loaded up with debt, obamacare doesn't pay for itself and has massively increased healthcare costs, and we have an aging population that will only make the problem worse. We're in the same boat as every other developed country, nobody can actually pay for their healthcare when everyone's 90. There's no simple solution where things just get paid for and life goes on like normal.
>>521026813you voted for kamala, a brown indian woman married to a jew. NO ONE takes your larping seriously, you're just a pathetic sœyboy faggot who is seething you lost.
>>521026662everyone gets paid as though they had been working the entire time
>>521025051If you thought Schumer took heat for a basic CR a few months ago, just imagine the heat he’s going to take now. He shut down the government and made thousands of people go without pay for 40+ days, only for them to pass the EXACT SAME CR with nothing to show for it (no, a vote on ACA subsidies that will get immediately shot down is not "something"). Keep in mind, this is just a few days after AOC's pick became mayor of NYC.
Why does this bitch pause for 5-10 business days after recording like 2-3 votes?Does she have something better to be doing?
>>52102576720 million Americans? Where did you get 30 million Americans from?
From the Destiny sub kek
>>521026854>you *checks notes* voted for kamal!!!!!11111121 *shits in creek*shut the fuck up migger. you are scum. i will personally put you into a fucking camp for disposal
>>521026811Always has beenAlways will be
>>521026730Republicans hit hard enough to not win the battle but not lose the war either. The point was to save face to end the shutdown then overcommit to losing in arenas designed for dems to win anyways. Enjoy watching Obamacare get reprogrammed by the Trump Administration.
>>521026916you lost bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you fucking FAGGOT
>>521026772The people who are working for free are technically "Furloughed", it's marked as "Furloughed but excepted" on their timecards ... so unless im missing something the people who didnt work wont get paid
>>521026662Likely true. I've been telling people since the beginning that a shutdown doesn't save any money from a lack of operations. Best case, the US could save money in the long term from a good budget, but we all know that won't happen.Feds have missed up to three paychecks. If they didn't get back pay, the few that are worth anything would fuck off.
>>521026968everybody is getting paid
>>521026741Yeah I think its uncalled for with a shutdown like this no matter what the topic might be. I think that this is something that should not even have been allowed to do. People can be for or against this, but shutting government down is wrong.
>>521025864Taking that dickThis shut down is such a shit show. Obama care was a fucking failure from the start. They're going to make hemp illegal the fucking niggers.
If dems fold right now then this would be a complete disaster for them. People suffered over a month without pay and their sacrifice bought absolutely nothing. Up to this point everyone blamed the republicans for not even wanting to negotiate, but this would just be handing them a free win.I just don't get it, why would they do this? They finally found a way to push back on Trump and they just fold?
>>521026966aw what's wrong, did the ADL not give you a longer script? kill yourself migger kike lover.
>>521026872Schumer is hopefully going to get removed for this. Desperatly claiming that the Republicans shut down the government while at the same time failing to stop republicans
>>521026705Shutdown's already over, champ. Americans won't stand to have their holiday plans stammered by Dem incompetence to keep a shutdown going wagering it against welfare for non-citizens. Wake up, it's either we eat or they eat.
>>521026904What's wrong with what I'm seeing?
>>521026968They'll get back pay, they just don't have anyone to currently do payroll.
>>521026928Same as it ever was
>>521026355Now you'll get the best of both worlds.You'll starve and they'll continue receiving free care that YOU get to subsidize through your taxes and increased insurance prices.Enjoy, goy.
>>521026904>Longest shutdown in history, made niggers lose EBT, made air traffic controllers walk off the job, cancelled 10% of domestic american flights>Spinelesskek, it's impossible to make these people happy. I would hate to have those retards on my side, this was an incredibly bold and retarded move that accomplished nothing and they certainly did have a spine, this was like watching a goose fight an elephant. Very ballsy, very extremely retarded.Imagine having a leftoid on your side ever, I don't ever want them to see the error in their ways. They're not salvageable.
>>521027041It's not for nothing! Republicans pinky promise to bring up a vote about healthcare sometime mid december and vote on it! (no promises if the house does anything even if it does though!)
>>521026094Republicans will never vote for that They SHOULD, but they’re too pussy
>>521027048>liberal is madgood, you lost you freak>>521027017The democrats shut down the government then tried to gaslight the country into thinking it's the GOP's fault. They realized it's fucking retarded and only the most brainwashed NPCs believe them and with the holiday travel season coming they need to open it.
>>521027041This is the moderate forces of the democratic party killing themselevs to spite the progressives and the DNC that betrayed them and tried to have a forever shutdown because fuck Drumpf
THIS VOTE IS MANDATORY but you know no rush. vote whenever you want. it's not like there's an entire fucking country waiting on you.
>>521027123>too pussyepstein files.
>>521027154This, there needs to be a shot clock on the vote.
>>521026943>get reprogrammed by the Trump AdministrationSo whatever Bibi orders Trump to do, right?
>>521026681can't wait to hear about how having the national guard count your state's votes for you somehow isn't okay
>>521027141you're going into a camp, creekshitter.
the longest government shutdown in U.S. history
Put an end to this shitshow Rick.
>>521023524>>521023524>>521023524>>521023524>>521023524
>>521024691 nipples protruding
they started spraying chemtrails in the bay area early am, so, its open
so its over?
>>521027227Ended because a faction in the dems hates another faction in the dems. This is Whig party part 2 in real tome
who is breathing heavily in this steam wtfback off the mic bro
>>521027106Cat's can't do that
Dems lost this one. It's pretty obvious from all the fucking slide threads right now.
>>521027223ok keep me posted libshit
>>521027154This is such a fucking stupid system man. Do we know which people haven't voted yet? Who are we waiting for?
>>521026772literally every government shutdown gives back pay to the federal workers when it's over going back as far as we've had them, the reality is that you can't just tell a working adult to sit around without pay for 40 days and just eat the cost, regardless of your feelings on federal workers some of them are necessary.
>>521027041>I just don't get it, why would they do this? They finally found a way to push back on Trump and they just fold?Their way to push back was retarded and ineffectual, a government shutdown has never actually yielded results. There's some minor concessions made, and then everything goes back to normal. There is not a single politician in the US government who would vote no no matter what, even if we had 400 trillion in debt.This isn't a card that works, government shutdowns have never done anything.
What is the vote tally at?
>>5210273474 GOP senators, who Lookner says reportedly are trying to get some last minute deal from Thune. it's odd.
>>52102738956:40
>>521027312Says who?
>>521027299fucking christ i'm losing my mind over this
>>521027353>the reality is that you can't just tell a working adult to sit around without pay for 40 days and just eat the costWell, you can and they lay off adults all the time, but you can't do this for little pet nigger slaves of the government, government workers are all always well-fed and watered and they give them little warm socks to sleep in.
>>521024347Bros...they were right.That said, this just destroyed a bunch of peoples faith in the gov. Nothing happened this time, but it is a step closer.
>>521027401Probably more money for Israel. Republicans always want more taxpayer money for Israel.
>>521027141Yeah I kept on hearing the word "leverage" over and over again from most of the democrats. That this is the only leverage we have, and this is the leverage we have on them, and if we dont have this leverage etc etc.My issue with this is really that politicians jobs are to find solutions to issues, not cause issues. And while the democrats want this and republicans want that, they should not have shut it down because they wanted something. That "something" is sort of their job to do no matter what. And I am pretty sure that if this is a vision they have to make a more affordable system for certain groups in society, they either have the ability to do it or not. And if not, they should no longer do what they do. Its just like with any job really. If you suck at being a car mechanic, you will have to find something else to do.
>>521027041>I just don't get it, why would they do this?Because they need to get the money flowing again and they don't actually have anything to lean on. This was a fucking retarded hard bluff tantrum because they didn't like what the republicans made clear was non-negotiable for this budget. It's the same logic that drives embargoes, but just like with embargoes it doesn't work if you don't have a superior position in the first place.
>>521027347>>521027401This fucking nigger Rick Scott is too busy injecting adrenochrome and drinking the blood of children marinated in BP crude oil to do his only job.
>>521027401they're trolling the dems keeping them up late into sunday night to mop their face in their own piss.
>>521027323Sad part is the public will never know how badly the shutdown will impact government spending and efficacy, long term.
>>521027276Both parties are in complete disarray at the moment.
>>521027528Basically, instead of trying to work with the GOP and Trump to fix the broken obamacare system, they shut the government down to demand $1 trillion in subsidies to just throw more money at it. >>521027573uh oh stinky
I was really looking forward to planes falling during the holidays.
>>521027528Well Republicans control the house, senate and presidency. The blame lies with them.
Does the final bill have the health insurance extension?
>>521027563Nah, he just playing some good ole boy games on Schumer since they're all up late tonight.
>>521027623No lol, just a super duper cereal promise to bring up a vote on it in december.
they are negotiating... rolling for last minute no votes
>>521027401Yah that's weird as hell. They should all vote at the same time, like it happens in every civilized country.I guess it's harder to do backroom deals when you can't see how the vote is progressing one by one.
>>521027595don't believe me if you like, but they might as well run out their victory lap as long as they like.
>>521027616The Dems completely caved what are you talking about lol
>>521027606Nothing ever happens
>>521027671They use the lesser known "maybe" vote, causing the vote to go into overtime
Where are the young and hot senators?
>>521027623No, so enjoy your 600% premium increase. Remember that next November.
THESE ARE THE DEMS THAT FLIPPED>Cortez Masto>Durbin>Fetterman>Hassan>Kaine>King>Rosen>ShaheenTHESE ARE THE REPUBLICANS THAT HAVEN'T VOTED YET>Cornyn>Rick Scott>Johnson >Lee
>>521027017These shutdowns are beneficial because life goes on for most people just as before, demonstrating that the federal government is largely unnecessary. At a certain point people will stop acknowledging their authority.
>>521027276Democrats saw how well they were doing in the last election, and needed ro make sure that didn't happen, again.
>>521027753For me, it's Katie Britt. She's so CUTE. >>521027763Most people have insurance because they actually work you dumb flaggot.
>>521027805>HassanDid Kaya vote No?
>>521027616Dems stopped playing the game to make Reps look like bad guys to win low level seats and NYC. It wasn't enough to win more face and they still are to blame for planes falling from the sky on people.
>>521024877Shutdown Forever
I guess whites have to go back to supporting niggers. Can't have them starving to death now can we?
>>521027832It's more that the progressive wing of the party did well despite the establishment claiming they will stop them. No doubt the Midweststern/blue collar faction like Fetterman feel betrayed and are now going full kamakazi
>>521027623Hahahahahahahahahahaahhhhh....No.
>>521027595The GOP isn’t interested in fixing the ACA. They want it gone.
>>521027805Senators from Texas, Florida, Minnesota, and UtahOH WE WHEELIN AND DEALIN RIK FLAIR STYLE
qrd?
>>521027616The blame lies on republicans and Trump if the shutdown keeps going, but if it ends right now, then the sacrifice people had to go through to put republicans on the spot resulted in nothing but an empty promise. There was no point to it at all.
>>521027623Lmao no. Dems are ending the shutdown on a pinky promise to have a vote later,the literal same thing Republicans offered which they denied and started the shutdown in the first place
>>521027981by "fix" i mean completely reform>>5210279988 dems caved to open the government because they know it's retarded to keep it closed.
>>521027981ACA is meaningless if USG just sends people checks outright.
>>521027998Dems lost again
Please God, let the US gov shutdown continue because it would be really funny.
>>521028008Blame? The Four Horsemen of the Reps are stuntin and wheelin and dealin on Dems and Schumers head right now since they've already won and are taking a hella long victory lap to rub it in.
>>521027841>Most people have insurance because they actually work>78 million Americans on Medicaid>68 million Americans on Medicare>41 million Americans on SNAPYeah, midterms are going to be a bloodbath for MIGA
>>521024347Let's hope one of those 4 has a massive stock pile of SPY puts for this week. Want to short micros badly from this fake & gay pump.
>>521028159And they're all going to be funded despite Democrats wanting to keep the government shut down. What are you seething about flaggot?
>>521024689>>521024347how the jews get to speak and no one else?
>>521028107Well yeah, they've won already. I can only blame them for making the entire country wait.
>>521028207Thune and Collins spoke too
>>521028008Any Senator running in the upcoming mid terms had to be getting leary of the " Voted 23 times to keep the Govt shut down" ads being run on a loop.House dems are screwed as l don't think ant of them voted to keep the Govt open.
>>521024508I want both. No free stuff for beaners and nigs and fat white single moms go hungry. Can I have more shutdown please? Next, tax remittances, Orange Nigger President.
>>521028251It literally wont matter. The great majority of normies only will care about the past few weeks when it comes time to vote. And if healthcare cost explodes they can just say we voted that way to try to help healthcare cost.
>>521028200>Most people have insurance because they actually workThank you for admitting you were wrong.
>>521028228Country is closed and asleep bro, they dont GAF. It's ghouls like you and me that are waiting.
>>521027116>10 000% objectively republicans fault>Dems cave and receive nothing There is literally nothing coherent in your post.
>>521027841>Most people have insurance because they actually work you dumb flaggot.>US total employment 162 million>US total population 340 millionmost people don't work actually, people that are retired or people under 18 make up about half of the population
>>521028332SNAP isn't healthcare you dumb fucking faggot, and the others are for old people mostly. Dems caved and you're seething, good.
>>521027841>all jobs have health insurance
Good night anons, sleep tight.
I hate this lil nigga like you would not believe.
>>521024508There's still food on the grocery store shelves if you have a job and pay for it.I'm getting up to go to work tomorrow and that results in me affording food. Rice and beans are delicious I eat them regularly. They are cheap in bulk and will sustain me.
>>521028377people under 18 get it from their parents ffs >>521028409>10 million on obamacareso 10 million
>>521024347Bernie has never been the same since the 2016 Democrat National Convention. He lost all of his authenticity that night when he sold out the Berners. Hes a grifter though so he will keep doing the carnival circuit with his act.
>>521028365No argument presented, your reply isn't even related to my post. Chatbot misfiring.And if it's republican's fault how can the dems even cave? Wouldn't that make it their fault if they're the one caving?
>>521028409because of obamacare, if your job does not offer a health plan you can get a ACA one.
>>521028251Ehh I think it's hard to tell what would happen, people have short memories. They're likely only going to care about why they can't afford insurance now and why.
>>521028332your give away free shit means less and less the more and more Trump succeeds in bringing prices down. Dems want to win? Time to put the breaks on the suicide path Obama, Biden Pelosi, and Schumer have put you down before you lose control of your party to Cortez, Sanders, Omar, and Mamdani, and you get steamrolled generationally.
>>521028431>work>eat rice and beans kek where do you work? McDonalds?
>>521025311So the subsidies were extended? Or the Dems got nothing? The governor races in blue states change nothing at the national level, regardless.
>>521028443>people under 18 get it from their parents ffs and ACA helps subsidize those insurance plans. Your job isnt going to give your child healthcare just for free.
>>521028457He's been irrelevant since he bent the knee to Hillary. He spent a decade doing the identity politics shilling and now that the dems are at rock bottom he's back to populism.
>>521028377And a significant number of those employed are using Obamacare subsidies. It's as if the Republicans are trying to get their shit pushed in in '26.
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>>521028417Bro, he's the ringmaster and he's is working the ropes waiting for the the chance to drop the leg on the dems to close the show and the night.
>>521028325You don't think an ad pointing out you voted 23 times to keep the govt closed will have an effect?I truly hope you are the guy in charge of the mid terms for the dems.To be fair even they aren't stupid enough to put someone that retarded in charge. Unless you are a trans minority handicapped lesbian. Then you get the job by default.
>>521027595Yeah. While I do understand that democrats have their goal and ideas about what is best and republicans have their opinions and ideas, I do agree that regardless of how much they disagree, they are after all suppose to work for the people, and not wage a war against each other because "they dont like what the other part believe". Its not really politicians jobs.>>521027616They do control it. But I will say that I do disagree on a high level with democrats when it comes to healthcare. Its not that I agree with republicans on everything either, but even Bernie Sanders and most of the democrats have said numerous times over and over again that the healthcare system in The US is broken. And in many ways I can agree with that because it do cost a lot to go to hospitals and get help in The US.But I also think that since this has been said over decades, and that nothing really ever happens, then it is people regardless of party that do not do what is best for the people. Because this is not really something new.In The US you pay probably more on healthcare per capita than any other country in the world by far and have done so for too long. And I will say that I do feel sorry for a lot of americans because of this. And that is when I think politicians should not just be politicians, but also problem solvers that solve the problem so people living in The US should get back from their tax money.
>>521025353>They haven't bothered considering that 80% of the country is pedos that don't reveal themselves because it's stigmatized
>>521027649>>521027763>>521027947>>521028037Will the health insurance mandate go away too? If so, that could mean fewer niggers in the waiting room, and that's something everyone will enjoy.
>>521028431Beaner
>>521025353>cover up for EpsteinYou really think they don't have a new jew getting blackmail on US politicians for Mosad? Epstein doesn't matter, that's why they hung him and replaced him. Same slaves, different dealer.
>>521028552>>521028537and dems just let it run out until the last moment and tried to for a trillion dollars in subsidies with the government shut down to save themselves
You mean to tell me this sad little chamber with cheap carpet and staffers with a suit bought off the rack, awkwardly sitting on the floor are the people holding this country hostage? Unbelievable.
>>521025391So they can't leave even if they need to take a shit.
>>521028379Isn't it past your bedtime Mr. President? LOL
>>521028563I don't care what this reptilian mf thinks he is. He is a butt in a seat. His job is to do whatever Trump wants.
>>521027947So business owners have to pay $100 more per month - which is a similar increase the rest of us have. Why are dems so upset about this?
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE SITTING ON THE FLOOR JUST LAUGHING IT UP WHAT THE FUCK WE ARE PATHETIC !!! SAD!!!
>>521028494>more and more Trump succeeds in bringing prices downROFL
>>521027841>Layoffs higher than they've ever been>Real unemployment almost at 40%>There are less open job positions than unemployed>Every job has to compete with numerous pajeets>5 years experience for burger flipping positions
>>521025589My guess is that it will fail, and go 2 more days until the House is back. This is just a day of political theater to introduce the idea and get the Project Mockingbird media kikes on their talking points.
>>521028325Healthcare costs aren’t “gonna explode” for normies. Most people on ACA are self employed or business owners.
>>521024508Americans can afford to lose some weight since we are all such fatties.Illegals can get ER from their own government or overthrow their own government, I don't care.
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>>521027821I agree with you 100% on this. And yes it do demonstrate that federal gov is unnecessary. You pay so much taxes over there, and I keep on hearing americans saying that countries in Europe and other places pay high taxes for this and that, but truth be told, at the end of the day, from what you make every single month in The US, you are left with far less money than most countries because of all the taxes you pay. Sales tax, income tax, state tax, federal tax, property tax, 401k, Medicare, Medicaid, and the list goes on and on and on. On top of that no where on the face of this earth, do I think food prices have hiked the way it has in The US.So The US is a very expensive country to live in.To make an example, if you take away real estate prices per sqft, everything in most places in The US now is more expensive than places like Monaco over here, and thats basically billionaire haven. Its where the richest of the richest live. And that put a perspective on things.
God, politics is so boring. How is this 4chan's most active board?
>>521025311>After the disaster Tuesday>Blue states elect blue candidates>disasterI dub thee a double nigger
>>521028552Employees are mostly on company HOA plans. Self-employed, contractors, or business owners use ACA. Poor people are on Medicaid and that isn’t impacted.
The Repubs holding up this vote are cornering Thune on nuking the filibuster
>>521025603Do shitlibs really have any candidates that can get elected outside of shitlib clown cities? Sounds like 2 sides of the same shitty coin anyway. Republicans like to be the party of losers so they can talk, collect their corporate donations, and not do anything just as much as the Communist/Shitlib/Old 1960's boomer democrats party.
>>521024508>handfulYou fucks clog the ER for a god damn cold. I will never forget taking my mother to the ER and being held up in waiting room alone for literally 5+ hours with all the fucking spics who had the sniffles. Also every last nigger dependent on EBT should starve. That's just a bonus though.
>>521025622>I am pretty sure that a country as large and powerful as The US will figure out a solution to this healthcare programs no matter what.The money involved shows you how much they already figured out. Don't sniff the glue of "We the People" too hard.
>>521028589>The US you pay probably more on healthcare per capita than any other country in the world by farAmerica spends 20% of its GDP on healthcare while every other western country pays around 10%. The insurance lobby owns the Republican party and also some Democrats which is why nothing will change.
>>521025697>invited>swims across a river>climbs a high fence>sucks a coyote's dick>digs under razor wire>hides in a semi"invited"You have to go back
>>521025697>immigrantsnigger please, the muh immigrants thing is tiresome bullshit.
>>521028594>that could mean fewer niggers in the waiting roomYou do understand any American has to be seen when going to the emergency room and most without insurance won't pay because they are not required to pay, right?
>>521028611>trillion dollars in subsidiesYou keep parroting that number but I'm going to have to see a source.
>>521025767It's a good start. Hopefully they can fuck more. They're going to fuck someone over, it might as well not be people that don't deserve it, aka Net Taxpayers, aka White people.
>>521029112We the People has never walked hand in hand within the world of politics sadly. That goes for every country out there and its a discrace.The real We the People are the ones who are the true Americans and work for free to keep the country running and those who support them.>>521029129Yeah. Probably why they say that presidents are never elected but chosen. Seems like its the donors and money that always determine who ends up in office.
>>521029141>swims across a river>climbs a high fence>sucks a coyote's dick>digs under razor wire>hides in a semithey would have zero incentive to do any of this if there wasn't a job some greedy business owner would rather offer to an illegal than a citizen waiting on the other side :^)
It should actually be an arrestable offense to hold up the Senate like this for no reason. We have a fucking country to run.
>>521029420I agree but you were not "invited", you are illegal slave labor.
>>521026003All the old leftovers from the 1960's democrat machine need to be put out to pasture already. It's well past time.
Oh my fucking God.
>>521026167>CAVING WILL NOT MAKE PEOPLE LIKE HIM ANY MORE.The only failure to this low IQ point is that he's only a political figure because the options were even shittier. And they still are. He's just the wrecking ball, not the rot.
>>521029420>greedy business ownerYou mean kike, fellow beaner. You know, the same kind of people at the top of our cartels.
>>521026203accurate take, anon. have a (you)
>>521028463>if your job does not offer a health plan you can get a ACA one.Have you ever worked a job and had to handle your own health insurance or are you underageb&/permaneet? I shouldn't have to explain to an adult what the premiums/deductible situation has been since ACA hit.
>>521027922>Shutdown ForeverBased.
>>521027841>Katie Britt.Yeah she is not bad at all. Would definitely deposit my hot sticky load deep inside her tailpipe!
>>521024347How stupid are the demonic democrats? They are literally the bad guys yet they think can boss around the president & the good guys? What a joke. You can buy a billionaire president you can't buy an administration of good honest people. These vile dems dont realize they cant bribe and corrupt retards anymore they have to contend with people far superior then them and the scum they are used to buying off.>GODBLESS THE USA GOD BLESS TRUMP & ADMINISTRATION
>>521024694underrated./thread.
>>521029459its pretty nuts when you realize that over 50% of ALL days the government has ever been shutdown is under trumps two terms. and shiiiiiieeeeet, we aint ever past the first year of 4. i wasnt expecting my popcorn budget to get so fucking big so quickly, but luckily theres no tariffs here on that sorta shit lmao
>>521026203I honestly thought you were talking about Benjamin Netanyahu.
>>521028240>despite being 2% of the population, jews speak 50% of the time during senate hearings
