Wait until you ponder the political implications of <<UHF RFID tags.>>("Ultra-High Frequency Radio-Frequency ID" AKA "EPCglobal Gen 2")Forgive the long post. This is worth it.This is NOT nfc.This is NOT regular ol RFID.These are showing up in everything you buy now, AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT.Mandated globally by places like Walmart for MFGs to start embedding in their products.They are:Labels. Tags. Inlays. Behind paint even!Literally paper-thin and flexible.Printable. Sewable. Embedable inside plastic. No battery.Globally unique number AND EXTRA DATA for each chip. Chips are the size of the tip of mechanical pencil lead. The antenna's only an inch or two.They are READABLE FROM 5-15 METERS away, officially (unofficially much farther. Think, how wide is a freeway?).They have 128 bits ( 16 bytes/characters ) of WRITABLE memory (writable up to 5 tags per second).They are dirt cheap. Less than $0.10 each for only 1000 qty.Not easily discoverable by your neighborhood hacker with a Flipper Zero (unlike NFC/regular RFID)Basic reading antenna is not exactly cheap ($310 for a crappy one on SparkFun).Think:You buy (or steal) a harmless roll of tape? a harmless box of shrink tubing?Did you look UNDER that label, between the laminations?Did you look INSIDE every hem of those pants you bought?Did you steal a small towel from your gym?These are just some examples of places *I PERSONALLY* have already found them.(((Their))) potential goals? Who knows. But it's more than LP.Maybe they ostensibly want to prevent/track/prosecute theft more effectively.What happens when suddenly your house or car is full of <<UNIQUE ID NUMBERS>> that can be read from 20, 30, 40 feet away?Sure, everyone knows leave your cell phone, put your RFID passport and NFC credit cards in a faraday cage wallet.Nobody thinks to inspect LITERALLY EVERYTHING THEY BUY FROM HERE ON OUT.Combine Flock camera searchable databases with tiny RFID tags. Possibilities are endless.
I know Louis Rossmann lurks, so hopefully he'll see this.
>>521039853>Possibilities are endless.POSSIBILITIES FOR WHAT???? LET ME REMIND YOU:>have gun>someone ruins your life>defend yourself easily>500,000,000+ firearms in civilian handsMONITOR ME LIL GLOWIE. YOU WON'T DO SHIT.
Example tag supplier:https://www.rfidlabel.com/product/impinj-monzar6p-coated-paper-rfid-label-arc-certified-u6c/
Good to keep tin cookie cans from christcuckmas in your car to keep stuff in. Makes these unreadable. Opened a garage door opener to look inside, I found a traditional thft tag INSIDE the opener itsself. I have also seen these flat ones on the back of price tags etc. as well. The non-observant won't notice but I did...
I forgot to mention these are also known as:EPC labels.(Electronic Product Code)Catchy and unassuming, eh?Wikipedia article:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Product_Code?useskin=vector
>>521039853>They are cheapI will buy 1000s and embed them with the words NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS. Any other tags will drown in a sea of useless information.
>>521040164Let me remind you. Frogs boil slowly in the pot. You hold your guns while you accept the tags. And the ids. And the ai. And the scans. And the drones. And the surveillance network. While still holding those guns. Then the tyranny, the taxation, the laws, the rigged elections. You still hold those guns. Then the murders, the framing, the propaganda, the rulings, the statements. You still hold onto those guns. Then finally, maybe, one day - in a final moment of realisation, you realise there’s nothing left to shoot at. The enemy is all within. In a last moment of resistance, you run outside to join the nearest gathering group. All Feds. You’re shot down in the street and the media reports that you frequented 4chan and were a right wing terrorist. The end.
The endgame is using these as homing beacons for drone strikes
>>521040284>small cookie tin faradayyeah, but can you fit your Carhartt jacket in that tin? it might have one sewn into the seams.>INSIDE the opener itsselfYeah, they put those little buggers (electro-magnetic vibration strips) even inside your milwaukee/dewalt drills now because so many spics nick em for their economy boosting job.
BRB, gotta let the dogs out.
Why must we live in the gayest cyberpunk dystopia?
>>521040553ikr
Types of UHF RFID Passive Tags & How They Are Usedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kE2SBhkS4c
>Basic reading antenna is not exactly cheap ($310 for a crappy one on SparkFunhttps://www.sparkfun.com/sparkfun-simultaneous-rfid-reader-m7e-hecto.html
>>521040505>make a faraday bag.Metallic fabric jumps into your way and slams your head into the pavement.https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/conductive-fabric.html?src=sem_bing&field=UG&from=sem_bing&cmpgn=487099882&adgrp=1300723489054549&tgt=kwd-2333094955076057:loc-190&KwdID=2333094955076057&mtchtyp=b&bdmtchtyp%20=bb&ntwrk=s&device=c&creative=81295278822613&p1=default&p2=default&p3=default&Query=conductive%20fabricIt's just something else interesting to hack.Make faraday bag for your walmart "shopping"Make faraday line jeans for the 5 finger discount tours.
The gym towel thing is real, btw. One of my first encounters with these was because my relatively expensive gym at the time offered as a paid perk, free plastic bags for us to put our wet suits in. Well, they decided to jew out on them suddenly for a few months, and I had no way to store my wet swimsuit. So I borrowed a towel and put the suit in the bag, FULLY intending to bring it back. Because fuck them for skimping on plastic bags.Anyway, the next billing cycle happened between then and the next week, and I notice my membership went up $5 for "no reason." As gyms sometimes do. But there was "no reason" for them to raise my rate. Then it hit me. The towel. So I got the towel out, and held it up to the light. Sure enough, there was a little antenna sewn into the corner.So I kept it. If I can find that towel tonight, I'll post a pic for you.
>>521040898Are you really saying put everything in a bag? I don't think you understand the scale here.They could literally be in the soles of your shoes and you wouldn't know unless you scanned for UHF RFID.
AND IN CASE IT WASN'T OBVIOUS...It's trivial to associate the UUID with your credit card at time of purchase.No credit card? Fine. With your facial ID.They could theoretically write your credit card number TO the tag itself while you are checking out. (not sure what purpose that would serve, but it's totally possible).
>>521040395Nigger, the gun is for suduko 360 walk aways
>>521039853Good post anon, have a bump
>>521040395>the media reports that you frequented 4chanand plant files remotely in your browser cache>>521041427'preciate it. I'm curious if any other anons knew about these.
>>521041190Oh, I throughly understand this. I have been on to this for a long time. In fact when taser first came out, I was THE very first to come up with an idea of using metallic fabric lining in clothed to defeat taser. I made the mistake of not patenting it... Yes, I even tested the idea on myself, my friend did not want to use the stun gun on my but was amazed when he saw my idda worked, that was ovr 20 years ago. Fast forward to today, I still keep up to dat on this sort of thing, which is why i found the tag INSIDE of a product. Good thread though. May give the corporte avengers better ideas on how to fuck over walshart when they want to go on their "shopping sprees" ;o) Yea, the faraday bags work and YES I do keep cookie tins in my car to keep phones in. I also make the backs of my phones removable and the battery disconnectable on every phone I own now if it is for personal carry.The real present and expanding danger that is more pervasive and dangerous are the ALPR cameras going up everywhere.A movement neds to bee started to start cutting these things down and -or clipping the wires whenever they are encountered. Cameras are a worse threat.
>>521040395340 million people, 500 million guns, and each day towards tyranny is a roll of the proverbial dice: will someone choose to pull the trigger on an enforcer, on a bystander, on a desk jockey, on traffic, on a first responder-- your "frogs boiling" argument is reductive past redemption, the frog has a gun in his hand and he knows where you live, it would be trivial for him to end your life.
>>521041338>They could theoretically write your credit card numberYes, that is why I do not have a CC. Have not had one for 20 years. I use the throw away loadable debit cards if I need one, otherwise I use cash. I also always wear a wide brim hat and keep a cuck mask on me at all times if neded. I am fully aware of the beast system being implimented.
>>521040898>>Make faraday bag for your walmart "shopping"Anon, I'm more talking about uses outside of Loss Prevention. HOWEVER, Walmart ALREADY knows all the EPC codes in their store.>Product goes missing>Product id put on global potentially-stolen item list (i.e. lost but never paid for, tracked at the INDIVIDUAL specific item level)>Entry/Exit scanners constantly scanning for stolen items. >You walk in with item on your person. >Tiny popup happens on the screen of the store LP analyst, or whatever they call the dude sitting at the PC.>Pic of your face now + pic of your face last time you were in store + pic of lost item shows up.>what do
>>521040828sparkfun ruins everything.
>>521039853have never seen these ones thanks op
>>521041677and adafruit is gay and woke as fuck
Hmm, nice info, thanks.
>>521041638I play chess, I think ahead. I got the inference before you said this. Thanks
>>521039853Faraday pockets
>>521041725>>521041702>>521041427Don't forget to hit that subscribe button, and drop a like and a comment.And share the info with a friend or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.
>>521039853>Combine Flock camera searchable databases with tiny RFID tags.https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/flock-haters-cross-political-divides-to-remove-error-prone-cameras/https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/flock-police-cameras-scan-billions-month-sparking-protests-rcna230037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vQn4MWBln0
>>521041772I didnt know long range variants existed, also unfortunate that they dont fall into the standard NFC frequency range and needs a special antenna etc.But you drew a nice mental picture about your car and your house being full of objects with unique identifiers. Someone could even be like hey this known terrorist had bought and item and it ended up in your house, in fact you have 3 unique items traced back to him so we need to search your house etc.That's definitely coming eventually.
>>521041638Oh, and another thing from 25 years ago... I knew about this sort of thing even in the 90's I needed a book that was out of print and I could only find it in a well known library. To "lift" it I had to look for the tag and it was in the spine of th book. ;0)ANY system known can be hacked.I'm an old school hacker. Lets say.... I was pirateing and hacking n sheeeet before microshaft was even thought of. Good thread though. Keep it goin'
>>521041817AFAIK, I was (one of) the first to post about flock cameras here. I've been the OP on many of the detailed FLOCK posts (such as this one), because i absolutely cannot stand them. I know Rossmann lurks on pol. I like to think I inspired him to look into FLOCK and start raising this issue. And now it seems to have spread like wildfire. And that tickles me every time I drive by one with my middle finger up.I was delighted to see someone cut one down in my town a couple days ago.
I've seen them a lot in Walmart shit already. Take them out and cut them into pieces. Better yet, remove them in the store and put them on something else. Some are specifically hidden, but others are pretty easy to find.
>>521041872EXACTLY! Just like that radar system that can see you breathing through walls, from the street. (not the one that they have to hold up to your wall).I imagine them making an FCC exception and just blasting your house with UHF until they find all the tags they can. One ping and boom, now they have "probable cause." or whatever they can cook up."UHF" here refers to around 900 MHz, give or take. That's near the roughly 400 to 800 MHz for "UHF" over the air tv. Makes your noodle dance.
>>521039853Good thread. They're used to keep web sockets open to malicious servers too.
>>521042128yeah, but like... click any of the links i posted. they exist. the only question is what will they be used for going forward.
>>521042213sometimes it's the schizos that were right all along
>>521042186>They're used to keep web sockets open to malicious servers too.uh... whut. no. they're just little passive UUID broadcasters (and apparently they can have a tiny bit of data written to them on the fly, too)does your local broadcast tv signal keep websockets open?
>>521039853sounds like something I can easily navigate with my flipper, my proxmark, and some spare esp32’s. Reminds me of the early 00’s when you could dump an entire DB by having a license plate that contained SQLi. And knowing the government, I doubt they’ll have proper redundancy checks in place on their backend; very interesting to see which DBs get dumped on the darknet due to improper security protocols and/or AI-implemented pajeet SDLC. If government & corpos are so desperate to implement their bootleg minority-report-knockoff digital communism, then I’m sure they’ll be just as happy to have their context-based AIs-that no doubt organise & filter * input data-contextual windows permanently poisoned & consequently begin to hallucinate like a nigger on bath salts. Fuck your doomposting, you tremendous faggot, OP.>t. friendly neighbourhood hacker with a flipper
>>521042287the flipper doesn't support that RF natively. you need a board. here's a linkhttps://github.com/haffnerriley/Simultaneous-UHF-RFID-FlipperZero
>>521042287>>521042372picrel
>>521041480Your phone can draw power from static electricity in the air, enough to ping the tower and send sensor data. And if you're a high value target then power can be sent to the phone over radio waves
>>521042287unfortunately navigating them wouldnt help the situation, or being able to create your own tags, they are just unique identifiers. you'd need to detect and disable them. a targetted surge of EMF to overload the antenna on the tag, cause a voltage burst to render the chip inoperable would be a good way.so we need a 900MHz EMP with a directional antenna to defeat this. you would need to scan all items you bring into the borders of your house and then destroy the tags electronically
>>521042533I'm trying to find a reference for you. I saw mention somewhere that they can be "permanently disabled" via sending a specific RF write instruction. Which is a good sign.
>>521042485>Your phone can draw power from static electricity in the air, enough to ping the tower and send sensor dataI don't think you understand electronics to that depth. Static E is not enough. Believe it.
>>521042287https://kval.com/news/local/eugene-police-release-flock-camera-locations-following-city-councils-decision-to-pause-automated-license-plate-reader-community-concerns-privacyflipper looks pretty cool
>>521042634That'd be a pretty nice start as a defense, but of course they can easily turn them into one-time-write-only and have it blow a fuse after the first write etc.This directional close range EMP would solve the problem closer to the root.
>>521042278The handshake file can be rewritten with whatever you want.
https://automatedmarking.com/blog/walmart-rfid-packaging-sticker-marking/>automated marketingWTF is that url? Automated Marketing as a service? gross. anyway...I know they can only hold a handful of WRITABLE bytes, but as far as readable bytes, these things seem to hold quite a lot.> Barcode/UPC #> EPC logo(place at bottom of UPC bars and scale to half of the bar height, minimum of 4.5 mm)> Item Description (from primary packaging)> Replenishment code> Season code> Dept/Sub/Fineline> Simplified color name> Style number/VSN number
>>521042372>>521042428>>521042533>windows 11Hmmmmm..Thanks. I have some custom ESP32 pcbs that I’ve soldered up that can totally interrupt Wi-Fi & BLR, but it’s sadly limited by a range of 5m to maybe 10m. I’d have to inventory all of my electronics & their internals then throw them in a box with the board, like a makeshift faraday, but it will be a huge PITA to organise all of my shit by December..>>521042634If they can read, then you can write. Technically speaking, it would be more efficient to hijack/attack whatever server they’re using to read the cards in the first place. Better to fish upstream, as they say.
>>521042734Yeah, only 16 chars."ABCD EFGH IJKL MNOP"That's 128 bits.
>>521042691Ummm how about the bright idea of just removing them and cutting them in half?How novel.
>>521042636You'll see. Taking out the battery doesn't turn your phone "off". There is a powerful antenna embedded in the case. If an RFID tag doesn't need a battery then neither does your phone.
>>521042756oi u gotta license for dat rf-gun mate?
>>521042849Read the thread, they are sometimes internal. Imagine inside the handle of a powertool.
bumpit's so much worse than you even know bros
>>521040505Everything works until you put it in a microwave for a few seconds.
>>521040164Damn this monkey brain of mine!
>>521042849not exactly feasible, given that:>tags may be placed on/in the item in ways where it can't be removed + destroyed without also destroying the item in some way>you ideally want to disable/destroy the tag before the item leaves with you from the store to prevent tracking from the get go, as simply purchasing the item with one of these tags is used to update your Big Data with buying preferences and other metadata
>>521042756>WAL-MARTI'm picking on walmart here, but these things are in use everywhere. Warehouses. Employers for tracking your Red Stapler.The businesses are obviously unaware of their potential misuse, or I should say, the misuse of <<the existence of a massively built-up distribution of microscopic UUID passive broadcasters>>What annoys me is they've pushed society over the edge in the following way:>This threat model exists, and it DOES.>You as a normal person, maybe a little autistic, becomes aware of them.>You decide you want to take steps to protect your family and limit their exposure.>Now you have to find some way to convince your wife and kids they can't just ___insert normal activity___, and you sound like a schizo
>>521043007I thought it was only me and here's a meme of it. I can't tell if I've been programmed and this is a psyop or if it's mere coincidence. Are all men tummy enthusiasts?
>>521042897>license.Off topic: Lately, I've noticed the BBC has started to push out reels/shorts to my accounts. I bet that's a tactic of theirs to make EVERYONE owe the TV tax, because they claim if you consume BBC content as a brit, you owe the TV tax/license.
>>521042812nah that's an old tag or something
>>521042672They’re hitting the mainstream now, so I’d expect the price to go up and I’d also subsequently expect governments to have had already engaged with Flipper Devices to either embed tags in the devices’ manufacturing moving forward, or to at least keep track of who owns them, considering you *can* change traffic lights & digital signs very easily once you load custom FW (that doesn’t contain malware lmao). Hypothetically, if it was discovered that certain electronic devices are transmitting proprietary data OUT (israeli style), and you can write *to* those same devices, then one could easily spoof the ID with another existing product. Bringing me back to the DB design: again, i doubt they’ll have checks for shit like multiple instances of the same product code/id (it’s the government we’re talking about, remember), or one could even spoof a relational key onto their tag, or a malicious frequency/code, the possibilities truly are endless. Man, boomers are not right in the fucking head at all, thinking that a system of total digital control built off the back of the already existing dogshit infrastructure in order to maintain an artificial appearance of total panopticon-style omnipresence; pure fucking hubris
>>521042961>it's so much worse than you even know brosthere are so many fucked angles to all these sorts of things. for example, the bug Chinks putting together all this stuff goes, "yeah sure, whatever you want me to put in it." and just builds it and ships it.
>>521040395And you gave up your guns retard.As the other said, there are hundreds of millions guns in this country and all it takes is one shot to an enforcers fat disgusting heart, or one to a CEO, politician, etc.
>>521039853If its for loss prevention, itll be just as ineffective as all the other shit that doesn't work. >durr my 4k nightvision camera setup with muh AI 24/7 surveillance Remember when everyone was shilling this shit? Guess what? They don't do shit. So you got a nigger in 4k stealing your shit. What now? Nothing because there's nothing physically stopping them from stealing and the cops don't do shit. Identifying criminals doesn't work because they don't care if they get caught and there are way too many. You can't jail them all. You have to physically stop them from stealing. This is why everything at Walmart is locked up in nigger neighborhoods. A physical barrier. You can invest in all the AI tracking shit you want and some retardmaxxing nigger will still walk in and take shit. My best guess is that it keeps pussys like you from stealing.
>>521043106>>521043007you guys like cum-gutters on your women?
>>521039853Bump
>>521042877I think you overestimate the amount of power it takes for the 4g5g transmitter takes to receive, the chip to interpret and then to transmit a ping. Static E is not enough.If you feel that strongly about it, post something from DARPA or the like to support your theory. That would be helpful for all involved.
>>521043158>nah that's an old tag or somethingYou sure? I'm talking about the RW memory. Not the stuff written at the factory. The spec I saw said the standard is 16 bytes.
How are these things powered?
>>521039853I don't really steal stuff so it's not a problem for me
>>521039853>Basic reading antenna is not exactly cheap ($310 for a crappy one on SparkFun).which works at what range?>>521039853>They are READABLE FROM 5-15 METERS away, officially (unofficially much farther. Think, how wide is a freeway?).for an unpowered chip the size of a few milimeters? nah bro show me evidencei looked into this tech thinking maybe i could tag my fpv drones (kept losing them in bushes and thick vegetation) but there's basically nothing reliably readable at a distance longer than standing on top of it. i opted out for a self-powered beeper with a LED in the end.if this does happen it's incredible tech that will revolutionize werehouse/inventory keeping as you can easily rf scan where everything is. what enters and leaves the werehouse....
>>521039853>(((Their))) potential goals? Who knows. But it's more than LP.WHy do you think that?>Maybe they ostensibly want to prevent/track/prosecute theft more effectively.Shoplifting? lol American stores let people take garbage bags full of stolem merchanize right out the front door.>What happens when suddenly your house or car is full of <<UNIQUE ID NUMBERS>> that can be read from 20, 30, 40 feet away?uh ...absolutely fucking nothing?
>>521043315read the thread
>>521043184I think it's for inventory management (yes each item DOES have a unique id), but more importantly the IMPLICATIONS of what a system like this could be used for OUTSIDE of LP.
>>521043176how did that whole>muh guns hell yeah brother hell yeah sister fuckerwork out for that luigi cunt? Totally forgotten about, and the wheels of the machine keep indefinitely turning despite your impotent rage and copy of your 2nd amendment rights that you silly american cunts keep under your pillows, in case you need to remind the rest of the civilised world that you own guns, and never do fucken SHIT with them. Your efforts would be better spent shutting off the water cooling supply to data centres, but I reckon you’ll be right with an AR & a flipper, mate, yeah you keep fighting the good fight with those guns of yours big fella lol
>>521040395Guns fuck Americans over, its like a bluff to them. They have to either do nothing or jump right to shooting. Not like here, we taken down a dictator by honking our car horn whenever we seen her
>>521043235Maybe he's mistaking the apple "feature" where find my is active even when you shut down your iPhone by default. OTHER phones can ping your UWB/BLE chip and report back.
>>521043327>if this does happen it's incredible tech that will revolutionize werehouse/inventory keeping as you can easily rf scan where everything is. what enters and leaves the werehouse....basically, yeah. but the warehouse is society and the inventory is us. That was the big idea, anyway..
>>521043106Sort of? Every man has a monkey brain that has neural activation to visual stimuli. In the same breath, 4chan is a cognito-hazard and simply being here is altering your psyche. No different that living in austria for 10 years and when you go back to USA everyone thinks you act like an austrian.>>521043194See above. Sexy tummies are great and easy to jack off too whether shes naked or not.
>>521043264> How are these things powered?They are powered by the READING device. When the big powerful scanner does a scan, it sends out enough RF energy to both propagate into the antenna, momentarily charging some tiny capacitor, that the passive chip then uses to reply with. Or, in other words. Magic.Same thing as your NFC chip in your credit card, except at a longer distance. Remember the old 900 MHz cordless phones that could reach across your yard?
>>521043327>revolutionize werehouse/inventory keeping as you can easily rf scan where everything is.Yep. currently being revolutionized. Just google it. Already working. Plenty of videos about it if you look, and search as if you were a warehouse manager trying to find a "solution" to your inventory woes.
>>521043433I posted that I make every phone that I carry to be able to be totally and completely powered down by physically disconnecting the micro plug from the pcb board. Static E is not enough to power it back up no matter how much ZOG wishes they could. Besides static E is high voltage and non-existent amps. He doesn't understand ohms law either.
>>521043184Over here we have facial recognition in stores, steal something and you forever get pinged when you enter a store again so security watches you. Self checkout also watches your hand, once I put an empty plastic bag to the side when I was about to pay and a little alarm went off and there was footage of my hand throwing the bag, it alerted staff to check it wasn't an item
>>521043375I did and all I noticed is people being upset about being charged for stealing stuff
>>521043501>you act like an austrianany austrian in particular? ;)
>>521043664I'll be baaak
>>521043571i like to gaslight them for fun.
>>521039853No way that's real, because if it is real, we're cooked.
>>521043588no, we're discussing the possibilities of you suddenly finding your house/vehicle/person with random unknown rfid broadcasters, readable (and writable) at a distance.
>>521041583>kamikaze drone flies at you
>>521043738Only real solution is to nuke it from orbit.
>>521039853Some guy sued the cops and a judge determined that FLOCK images are public records and subject to the FOIA
>>521043897Saw that.If you think FLOCK cameras are bad (and they are), then microscopic passive UUID broadcasters in everything you buy is way worse than just your license plate being recorded.Trivial to setup a scanner that scans every UHF RFID tag it sees, and cross references it to any database it can... maybe one that is a collection of everything you purchased because they got tied to your identity at time of purchase. I'm not just talking a "generic pack of gum". I'm talking a very specific pack of gum able to be tracked for a given (sort of disposable) amount of time. AI and other analysis tools work out the details.
>>521044019Basically, it shifts the situation from "creepy mostly useful camera tracking system", to "ultra tunable, higher fidelity (even though there's some noise) model of all citizens. the only thing they have to account for is having a UUID big enough for every item that will ever be made. and they do
>>521043834>Only real solution is to nuke it from orbit.How? Practical thoughts?
Truth be told, I have seen these tags inside of power tools that I have taken apart to repair them. Here's an idea, if in doubt, time your exit to coencide with 2 or more other shoppers exiting. Use faraday bag if needed. Take tags off random products and plant them on random carts both in use and in the parking lot No readers where the carts are returned. When home check for tags on/in everything. Destroy.Pay with cash.Use publicly acceptable means to obscure face cuckmask.I get the paranoia about reading tags in your house from the curb, but the above counter measures take care of most of that concern. Good thread though. More need to know about this shit. I think a more serious concern are the ALPR readers everywhere now.
>>521043588>all i noticed is people being upset about being charged for stealing stuffand you missed it all>>if they are willing to track their product this way, just shows they are aggressively spying on the people but i understand you focusing on that given your flag.
>>521043194Just because you call it some ugly name doesnt change the fact its hot as fuck. Its ok to admit you like fatties.
>>521044161>I have seen these tags inside of power tools that I have taken apart to repair them.No, you've probably seen the old fashioned ones. The ones designed to make the LP gate beep when you walk through them. THey contain no data.
Here's a link to the ones that they sew into the hems and seams of your clothing. You might even be wearing some RIGHT NOW and not know it.https://jyltech.en.made-in-china.com/product/qwGAgJIxXOcF/China-Sew-Into-Hem-or-Pouch-Garment-Management-UHF-Fabric-RFID-Laundry-Tags.html
>>521044393Le sigh.I'll stop contributing to the thread then. Hows that?Caio
>>521044498didn't mean offense. but the old ones have only recently found their way into the insides of the milwaukee/dewalt/etc they first were on the outside of the package, then the inside of the package. then within the last 5-10 years got inside the device.i haven't seen the rfid chips anywhere in large power devices (yet), and the old ones are well known to have a spot molded in now (as seen in my AvE screenshot above)i have seen them inside clothing and packaging.i suspect we're in the beginning phases of the retailers unwittingly building up yet another way for citizens to be tracked, and the UHF RFID hasn't made its way into devices so much as onto them. (except for clothes, which don't come in packaging). right now, it's mostly for inventory management. but i see it's potential, and so i'm raising a flag right now.
>>521039962Would be cool if some of you could comment about "UHF RFID" on some of rossman's videos. I know his email is swamped right now.I'd love to see him address this in parallel with the FLOCK stuff.
>>521043793Is that a problem though? I have a towel that says "towel $5" is someone runs a scanner on it
>>521044796Actually there are those Chinese surveillance clips and sometimes there is writing over each person, obviously their ID. Tags would be good for that. Our elites aren't competent enough for that though
>>521045181I think it's a huge problem. Imagine a police force looking for ANY scrap of information that they can label as "probable cause."Imagine a database of billions or trillions of UUIDs attached to everyday objects. Doesn't matter what it is - be it a towel or a box of cigarettes; what matters is that at some point it gets tied to "being in general possession or associated with one or more individuals" (via credit card purchase or whatever).Now imagine they show up on your street, looking for a reason to enter it. They pull out a Pelican case out of their trunk and aim a large directional UHF antenna and start scanning your house for passive RFID pings. <ping> ONE comes back on their hot list.>cop: judge we found reasonable suspicion that X person is associated with this house. >judge: ok here's your warrant. have fun
>>521044458There is a really simple solution. You should also microwave all packaging material before you discard it to prevent post-refuse sorting.
>>521045336>You shouldDid you know Apple MagSafe 2 will wirelessly charge your phone in 30 seconds in a standard microwave?
>>521045335this exact process already occurs over the Internet and doesn't require fancy RFID tags, I think RFID is just easier for normalfags to digest and catches your attention and sticks with you
>>521040284Just microwave it. The tag overvolts and fries itself.
>>521045264I'm amazed they found that many variables in > -_-to be able to identify each individual chinese person
>>521039853>Literally>>521039853>LITERALLYShow tits you dumb bitch
>>521045413>this exact process already occurs over the Internetand it makes me sick. it's obviously such a success they want to replicate the effects IRL with Flock and now (allegedly) UHF RFID
>>521045378Yes it will charge it to thousands of volts and instantly melt the circuitry. But there IS a good reason to put your phone in the microwave.You just don't turn the fucking microwave on.Once you close the door call your phone, if it rings, buy a new microwave because the shielding in yours has failed.
>>521045440in these instances, i LITERALLY mean LITERALLY
>>521045485>the judge will now listen to you
>>521045336Lol, i'm chuckling imagining someone trying to explain to their neighbor - without sounding crazy - why they use 3 microwaves in their backyard every trash day.Is this potentially the new tin foil hat?But you just know real secret-identity spooks are probably worried about this exact thing now.
>>521045624movie?
>>521045422I think AI finds it even easier than us, less details to worry about
>>521045335They don't have the tech for that, not feasible and certainly not cost effective. They already have the tech to track us through our phones and facial ID CCTV.
>>521045336The extremely obvious solution is to just buy a scanner yourself. Delete the info or write "nigger' in it
>>521046385>honey did you do the biweekly house scan yet? the joneses need to borrow the scanner
>>521046329>not feasible and certainly not cost effectivePalantir has entered the chat.
>>521045994https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercy_(2026_film)>>521046329>not cost effective. . .they spare no expense collecting data on the civilian. whats up with all the water usage and data facilities
>>521046674>>521046329But seriously, they already have SPECIFIC RFID readers scanning all the commercial trucks that are regulated and required to have these large, obtrusive boxes on their windshield, or your FastPass.Do you really think they haven't thought "gee maybe we could fit in a generic bluetooth device scanner in there and vacuum up bluetooth MACs, maybe it'll come in handy"It's not much further to beef up the already existing technology (which by the documentation works within FCC broadcast range of 15 meters!) Just bump up the gain. Do some fast fourier analysis. Pass the results to AI via the high speed cell link to the server in the cloud.
>>521046708I have such a hard-on for Rebecca Ferguson. hnnggg
>>521039853>>521039962>They are dirt cheap. Less than $100 each for only 1000 qty.>Basic reading antenna is not exactly cheap ($310 for a crappy oneAnon, I.....> on SparkFun).Ngmi>The entire threadAre you sperging out about those patches that have been used for retail loss prevention for like 30 years?
>>521046870https://gizmodo.com/rekor-ai-system-analyzes-driving-patterns-criminals-1850647270i cant find the video, but a cop had a tv crew in a stakeout house that had a camera set up on a block, tracking the foot traffic around, and into the house. pretty interesting, and yet more confirmation they farm the fuck out of us for this data. >no idea who she is...i trust u
>>521047096>i trust uone of the leads in that movie you linked
>>521047096note: the house was niggers selling drugs>>52104712790 minutes prove yourself to innocent to ai lol. we are fucked
>>521039853Kek stop stealing shit. Wtf is wrong with you?
>>521047050ten cents is cheap for mfgs to put one in or on everything. they're already doing it. $300 for a prototype bare board you have to interface with yourself is expensive for every average joe worried about being tracked to buy and scan for UHF RFID tags in their belongingsthey haven't had them for 30 years.they used to just stick them to the outside.they are starting to hide them inside or disguise them.new tech is following the similar trajectory to the old-style EM retro-vibrator strips that set off the beeper when you walk through if they haven't been demagnetized. those have been around for 30 years, but those have already made it inside power tools. those were at least somewhat innocent once you left the store.
>>521047397thread not about stealing
>>521046427Yeah program AI to do it for you at noon daily
You can get the antenna module for ~30$.https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005296512846.html
>>521047427the quality of AI code goes in serious waves. I got grok to have a digital schizo loop when i asked it "are you sure?" to something it obviously got wrong. it kept arriving at the same answer then going "NO WAIT, BUT THAT'S WRONG! Let's calculate... blah blah.... SAME ANSWER...BUT WAIT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER... we need to calculate..." It went on for pages. it was weird.
>>521047502Yeah but hopefully before these become widespread we will have pretty decent AI assistants and they can be trusted to turn on the rewriter tool. Also I guess these tags will be able to be rewritten in store so can mark things as sold or low price
>>521047502LLMs are shit and will confirm any bias you feed them. Ask them "Why do people think the sky is green in southeast Miami?" and it'll give you an answer to that. Extrapolate that to more subtle and subjective things and suddenly you'll find that for that kind of purpose it's mostly a bias confirmation device. "AI" doesn't exist. LLMs are useful tools for planning projects and getting general info but they're horrible when you're using them to do your critical thinking for the exact reason you just outlined
>>521047405I remember those ones too, but I've been peeling the one I showed off shit for decadesThe rectangle one I found in a tool decades ago too, just took it out I don't doubt they're hidden like you say. You should be able to find it with>Metal detector >Heating it and identifying it with a thermal camera>Overload it with a diy transmitter in its frequencies The biggest problem you're gonna get is they aren't all going to operate on standards frequencies.
>>521040164>have gunRuby Ridge>defend yourself easilyWaco
>>521043176>there are hundreds of millions guns in this countryRuby Ridge>all it takes is one shotWaco
