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>their hope and optimism: gone.
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>>521061941
They could try period blood again. Or pussy hats. They still have options.
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Every day that liberals get kicked in the nuts is a good day.
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>>521062028
>>521061941
Who is Aaron Rupar?
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>>521062028
don't forget tiktok dances
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Remember this is the "Trump" shutdown, but they're sad it's ending. And they're mad at leadership because it was "all for nothing".
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>>521061941
Sorry Angus. "No Kings" means you
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>>521061941
Bump for the good news.
Though I really was looking forward to a scrooge-y Christmas.
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>>521061941
It's so weird how just 2 days ago it was "Donald Trumps shutdown" and now it's "Donald Trumps an asshole for opening the government back up" these people really do live under some 1984 style brainwashing.
T. Donald Trump non voter
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>standing up
>committing political suicide
Dems could direct their entire socialist party off the side of a cliff and they'd still vote for them
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I don’t know how many times I have to say this, but there is no money, we are broke.
Keeping the Obama care subsidies would have cost 40-50 billion a year extra and it would have come mostly from the middle class. It would have kept on getting more expensive as we have seen since the enactment of the affordable care act.

What is the solution?
Universal health care and taxing the rich?
Fine go tax the shit out of the donors so they don’t have any money to spend on buying our government.

More realistically it just means more debt and more inflation. It’s a death cycle of which I’m not hearing any democrats articulate a plan to get out of.
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>>521063542
> Fine go tax the shit out of the donors so they don’t have any money to spend on buying our government.
I’d probably support dems if they actually did that shit but when they have power they don’t do it, they don’t even lift a finger to push single payer healthcare until republicans are in. America is a failed nation, just a corpse the Jews eat from while chinks surpass us in everything including healthcare for their own people. And then you have kikes like Ben Shapiro telling zoomers if they can’t afford homes they should move out of America kek.
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>>521063542
>whats your plan anon
Well Rand wants to balance the budget in 5 years but cutting 6 pennies out of every dollar being spent.
Then we can spend the rest of our life as a nation paying down the debt.
Granted we conserve our nation.
But at this rate, we are bankrupting ourselves and destroying our selves from within.
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>>521063542
>What is the solution?
kill all "federal powers" that exist without constitutional authority
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>>521064037
The easiest place to cut money is overseas.
But you got donors who want to rule the world at your expense.
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>>521063542
>>521064037
>>521064106
Well there is also the abuance/tech/UBI brohs leading us to this futuristic utopia, of shit being so free we don’t own anything.
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>>521064086
>kill all "federal powers" that exist without constitutional authority
That wont unmutt you, mutt.
Too late.
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I thought MSNBC was no longer a network?
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>>521062028
They can wear crowns and go to the No Kings protest paid for by walmart because trump is taking away their slaves. It's only called "No Kings" in countries without kings though, otherwise it's called the Walmart™ No Tyrants protest.
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>>521063542
The plan is that boomers will die before they have to worry about it. That’s literally it.
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>>521061941
ya love to see it
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>>521064180
take your black ass back to the african country you originated from
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>>521063542
how about you don't spend $2 trillion every year on bombing other countries
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>>521064180
Bold words from France lmao
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>>521064594
no :)
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>>521063392
>these people really do live under some 1984 style brainwashing
Yeah and late night TV is their 5 minutes of hate against the arch enemy of their imaginary socialist state. The scariest thing is that they CHOOSE to live in 1984 inside of their own heads licking big brother's boots all day every day when they could easily live free from it (for the time being).
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>>521063542
>we can’t afford to give healthcare to the people; it just doesn’t work!!
Bro we sent double that to Argentina/israel this year alone lmao
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>>521064777
stop pretending that universal healthcare is a power that the federal government has
democrats had a supermajority in both the house & senate and Obama in as president
yet they still knew they could not attempt to do this properly with an amendment process and had to tell severe lies about its cost & nature in order to give the appearance it was passed,
and then further, Roberts altered the law after the fact when SCOTUS has no power to alter laws
>this is ok if its a tax
>its a tax
>nevermind Congress specifically said at all points prior that this was not a tax
we shouldnt be giving money to kikes or their pet projects around the world, but also there's no enumerated power for the fedgov to do healthcare, which means this is a 10th amendment issue and States are free to implement it themselves and fail miserably at it like Massachusetts did
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>>521065128
You can bitch about Obamacare all you want; I don’t like it either. Your contention that we simply can’t afford it is just retarded and a terrible reason for opposing it. Social security makes the ACA look like change you might find in your couch. If you want to replace the ACA, fine, but you need a plan beyond Donald sending a check for healthcare.
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>>521061941
Congress is fucking useless and needs to be abolished with all the dual-passport clowns and AIPAC luring around all the corners.
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>>521061941
>it didn't work
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>>521061941
What did they even want? Some extra Obamacare subsidies that were temporary from COVID? They were sacrificing SNAP over lowering healthcare costs by like $10 a month max?
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>>521065663
>lowering healthcare costs by like $10 a month max?
Kek I’m saving this post. Thank you.
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>>521062091
An "independent journalist". He makes money by posting clips of cable news.
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So I missed 2.5 paychecks for what exactly? I didn't even call in sick during the shutdown like a schmuck
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>>521063542
>so they don’t have any money to spend on buying our government.
Oh no!
How bad!
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>>521061941

He is the best President this country has had since he was last elected.
If they really can rig it to where he can run again.
If we can really make that legal for just 1 more time lol.
He no shit should have Massie or Tucker as V.P.
That would rock balls!
It'd be like annudda shoah all over again!

Idk either of them would win going against Trump alone.
We will see.
It could cost the Republicans the election if too many votes get split up by too many good candidates.

UNLESS!!! ATT!!! UNLESS!!!
Next Election Cycle we Bar all Democratic Candidates and only allow Independents and Republican Candidates to run.
We do this by inditing the entire Left establishment for RICO crimes connected to Jan 6, Antifa,& Soros.
Therefore deeming the entire Left Criminal and Compromised and unable to further server the American People.
Everyone of them including the Epstein stuff is a part of it.
That's why it's funny when they say they want the docs.
Yeah Trump maybe slept with young females but what the others did!!!
Entire police stations commit suicide over...

Funny those ass fucking, no boarders, genital mutilating, baby murdering, war loving psychopaths ever thought they were human beings.
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>>521061941
>my donors told me to capitulate like a good goy
Enjoy your 50 year mortgages, idiots
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>>521066536
Birth mortgages should become a thing.
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>>521065515
the US Federal Government spends more per-capita on healthcare than any other nation in the world, and then the private sector spends trillions more on top of that. the problem here is not a lack of socialism. the problem is too much socialism and its predictable consequences. most "health care" is nothing but scams that have zero or negative efficacy. having the government pay out the scammers with the hope that some money trickles down to actual efficacious health care is what we have been doing for decades and it will never work and only get worse.
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>>521066665
so close
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>>521066674
You can keep willfully ignoring the point of my posts with how much you hate Obamacare, but it won’t change the fact that
1.) it is not a question of affordability when the US government on whim sends tens of billions to Argentina and openly talks about sending every American checks for 2,000 dollars in bribery money
2.) you still have no alternative
I imagine your response is more seething about Obamacare, so go ahead.
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Wait it's still not open yet what the hell
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>>521065515
I didnt say shit about being able to afford it or not
I said the federal government has no lawful enumerated constitutional authority with which to have done Obamacare
similarly, the fedgov has no lawful enumerated authority to have done social security either
Obamacare should just be immediately terminated
social security would be politically palatable enough that a real amendment would pass in this day and age
but let's not kid ourselves, that would be an admission they did it without authority
and Congress raiding the money a few times over is the reason it is insolvent
note again I dont mention anything about paying for this
because when the central bank is a privately owned counterfeiting house, it makes the notion of paying for things laughable
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>>521067196
>2.) you still have no alternative
nigger the Constitutional alternative is done at the State level as prescribed by the 10th Amendment, since the federal government has no lawful constitutional authority
then you can see when something akshually has to be properly paid for and you cant hide all the costs, you get what happened in Massachusetts - a miserable failure and an absolute fiscal boondoggle
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>>521067196
obamacare is the symptom. the disease is the insurance/pharmaceutical/medical device/hospital/doctor industry that keeps producing worse healthcare outcomes the more money we feed it. but the basic point here, which even a retard like you can figure out, is that if you keep spending more money and getting worse outcomes, the solution is not to spend more money.
>affordability
not the point. the point is that spending more money yields worse results.
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>>521067801
I thought you were the anon I responded to originally; I didn’t check.
Listen, if you are proposing that we get rid of Social Security, you have an ally in me. I am also fine with eliminating ACA funding IF we have an alternative to it, and I agree that its constitutional foundation is shaky. I agree with all that.

However, leaving healthcare completely up to the free, private market has a slew of issues that I don’t see getting resolved without government intervention. Emergency patients unable to pay their debts and how this debt gets passed along is the first obvious problem.
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>>521067952
By your own admission, states fail miserably at it when they implement it themselves. All that will happen in your scenario is that the healthcare in red states will again get raped, just like education. You know what? Actually, this is fine. Let’s go with your proposal. Let’s have red states figure out healthcare themselves, that ought to be good.
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>>521068218
>leaving healthcare completely up to the free, private market
there is no such thing as a "free private market" in healthcare. everything is cartelized through licensing and regulation. ACA is a nothingburger. Medicare and Medicaid are much larger.
>Emergency patients unable to pay their debts
here you get to the real point of the ACA, which is a subsidy for the medical industry, to pay them off for the debts they cant collect
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>>521068656
If the healthcare system is not subsidized for emergency visits that the medical system cannot turn away, who do you think pays for it? Do you think they do? Do you think they just eat it? No, you do, or the services/institutions themselves get worse.

The alternative to THAT is to have it so that the public can be denied emergency care. Is that preferable?
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>>521068871
>Do you think they just eat it?
yes, as a matter of objective fact, they do. and this removes the incentive to perform useless wasteful procedures in order to make more money. when the government subsidizes health care, then you have billboards and tv advertisements for emergency rooms everywhere, to encourage people to come to the emergency room.
>the public can be denied emergency care
nope. that is already the law. there is no negotiation or bargaining here. suck it.
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>>521068584
>i-its almost like the shit cant stand for itself and breaks all budgets and you have to have secret backroom measures to give any impression at all that its not a literal black hole of money and graft
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>>521062028
They can't though. That would imply having periods or a pussy is an essential part of being a woman, which is transphobic
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>>521066674
>the US Federal Government spends more per-capita on healthcare than any other nation in the world, and then the private sector spends trillions more on top of that.

Yes, correct, this is the problem. We spend so much on healthcare BECAUSE the private sector is also hoovering up money on healthcare. Trying to have affordable healthcare and for-profit healthcare are mutually exclusive goals. This is why Obamacare sucked, because it was a compromised forced to allow the health insurance companies to still bleed us dry on both ends.
We, as a country, can finance universal healthcare. But we can't do that AND have health insurance companies raking in 80 billion in profits a year. Nationalize the industry, do it at cost, the american people get healthcare and at a fraction of the cost.
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>>521061941
What exactly did they achieve with that dumb idea of having a government shutdown? People whose interests are supposedly represented by these morons didn’t get paid and flyers are blaming them for the air traffic bullshit. Why is the government even in charge of this stuff? Is it just me or America looks more and more like a third world shithole as years pass?
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>>521062077
Well they've certainly infested /pol/ so you have ample opportunities to make that happen
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>>521069598
>This is why Obamacare sucked, because it was a compromised forced to allow the health insurance companies to still bleed us dry on both ends
it was globohomo chiseling all of the price distortions in stone
>We, as a country, can finance universal healthcare.
>we just cant do it in anything resembling a lawful process, because that fails every time
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>>521064287
They have like 5 dedicated viewers so good luck finding someone who actually watches that garbage to explain it to you
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>>521069561
Feminists are now identifying as trans women in a biological woman's body, so the mental illness fetish is coming full circle.
And yes, they will demand to have all the rights and privileges that trans women have because that's their whole game
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>>521069713
It's the goal of the entirety of Germ Theory, poisoning everyone then promising to cure them via very expensive voodoo. Daily reminder Germ Theory literally comes from Israel Rabinowitz, a rabbi expert of the Talmud and friend of Pasteur. If Terrain Theory was implemented, all this business of billions upon billions in jewish magic would fall.

Shoot all drug dealers, prohibit drugs and alcohol, dispose of dysgenics (no shitskins, niggers or retards), kill every single higher-up of companies that poison our air/water/food, only allow unprocessed food from healthy animals, put statues of fit healthy people Greek-Roman-NS-style everywhere... Just apply common sense aka National Socialism and everyone will be healthy again.

>>521070069
It's all so tiresome
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>>521069598
>health insurance companies
the focus on insurance companies is part of the scam. the fact is that it is the entire industry of pharmaceutical companies, health equipment manufacturers, hospitals, and doctors who are all scamming. "insurance" provides the guaranteed pay out for the scams further down the line, but it doesnt really matter if this is government or private insurance, if you dont address the cancer of health related scamming disguised as "health care"
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>>521069224
As a matter of objective fact, they don’t. They sell it to debt collectors and the remaining debt circles back to insurance who consequently raise rates. You pay for it.
If you’re arguing sincerely that the problem will be rectified by the public avoiding emergency rooms and that the real problem here is BILLBOARDS advertising emergency rooms, you are an absolute colossal retard. You think it’s like McDonalds? You think someone is driving down the road and goes “hmm… the emergency room… yeah, I think I could go for the emergency room right about now!” Without exaggeration, this is the single stupidest explanation I have ever heard against government subsidized healthcare, and that’s saying something. Holy shit, I need to save this thread.
>>521069470
Anon, you’ve already convinced me. I look forward to red states tackling healthcare independently of oversight. I know I sound like an asshole but I’m being serious. I think that it’s ultimately the best thing.
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>>521070291
>the real problem here is BILLBOARDS advertising emergency rooms
why would they advertise if it didnt work? retard.
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>>521070234
Well, yes. Obviously if our goal is to do healthcare without being ripped off we need to address the other layers of inefficiency as well. But as you say the insurance companies are the mechanism by with those other scams function and get away with it. If the government is paying for healthcare more directly without the insurance companies as a buffer, and the government wants to lower costs, it all becomes exposed and more easily targeted.
This all still starts with canning the insurance companies and getting them out of the way as the middleman, even if that's not the final move to be made. But as long as the insurance companies do nothing but leech profits on the transaction for no actual benefit, you can't even get a clean read on how much everyone else is ripping you off.
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>>521070291
>You think someone is driving down the road and goes “hmm… the emergency room… yeah, I think I could go for the emergency room right about now!”
That's actually almost exactly what happens with shitskins. They go to the ER for the slightest thing and threaten to kill everyone working there if they don't take care of them immediately. Aryans will go to the ER for an actual emergency, sandniggers will go there for a cold and try to rape the personnel.

It's pointless to discuss without fixing the root cause of every single issue in society: evil hostile foreign races, every non-Aryan must fuck off or be killed. Justice system, healthcare, education, security, nothing will work as long as we tolerate non-Aryans.
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>>521070632
Yeah I suppose that these people had no intentions of going to the ER independently of the billboard advertisement. It’s improbable, borderline impossible, that they looked up “Emergency Room” on their phone before getting in the car. No, what is much more likely is that they felt ill and went for an aimless drive down the highway, only to stumble across a billboard advertising ermgency care. What luck! What fortune!
>>521070631
I want to nationalize healthcare completely. I hate the insurance companies.
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>>521070631
>the government wants to lower costs
this assumes a competent and non-corrupt government, which as an objective matter of fact, is the opposite of what we have, so while in theory your approach might work, in practice it is doomed to failure. if you have all the same people coming up with a "solution" to the problem they created with their own greed and corruption, then the most probable outcome of any "solution" is that it makes the problem worse. ACA being a prime example of this.
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>>521068218
>I am also fine with eliminating ACA funding IF we have an alternative to it,
It just needs to be repealed. There's nothing that needs to take its place, because it never was fit-for-purpose anyway.
The only way to bring healthcare costs down are going to involve
1. Eliminating or reverting patent/copyright/trademark laws to 3 year terms. Every drug should become a generic after 3 years, and no renewals for "reformulations" should ever be granted.
2. Making all pricing for goods/services transparent and public prior to them being rendered
3. Putting a cap on or severely limiting the liabilities surrounding medical malpractice. The costs of having malpractice insurance are a huge driver of healthcare costs.
4. No government involvement into the industry of any kind. All the "oversight" agencies have just become infested with the same people that they were supposed to be keeping in check.
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>>521070097
socialism involves a whole host of powers that the USA fedgov does not possess
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>>521063392
I think you failed to grasp the stakes of the situation completely. I don’t know if 4chan is all bots now or what
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>>521070291
>1st in healthcare
>romneycare was an abandoned abysmal failure
>but dont let that sway your opinion on if they're #1 or not
its both sad and hilarious watching your worldview require ignoring reality in order to be true
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>>521070631
insurance is a legalized racketeering operation
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>>521071257
>Making all pricing for goods/services transparent and public prior to them being rendered
this is the first step. which trump did by executive order in his first term, and then biden overturned as soon as he was in office, but is maybe back now? the next step is universal pricing: only allow one price to be charged for any buyer, which cuts out the scam of raising cash prices and then negotiating discounts with insurance companies.
>Putting a cap on or severely limiting the liabilities surrounding medical malpractice
this is tricky because health scamming causes lots of injury and death and the threat of lawsuits is the only financial check on this.
>All the "oversight" agencies
the key thing to realize here is that these agencies exist to protect industry not consumers. by having government regulatory agencies (like FDA) the pharmaceutical industry gets immunity from product liability if they follow the regulatory process. these agencies were all created to reduce the liability for industry, which is directly counter to consumer protection.
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>>521061941
Things will never change until the intelligence agencies, underground military-industrial-complex lairs and defense contractor facilities are stormed and the glowniggers and parasites who work there are executed and the data they collect is leaked to the public so that the rest of these government assets, zogbots, mercenaries, glorified jannies and authority figures can be hunted down and exterminated.
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>>521071801
lawyers are part of the scam
>it doesnt matter that I make $600k a year, I have to pay $250k in malpractice insurance
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>>521071831
absolutely based
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>>521071444
Instead of hyper fixating on whether or not MA is actually number 1 in healthcare, you may want to consider the other half of that image and what it is demonstrating about healthcare in conservative states. Perhaps you’re suggesting that red states will handle this well? Great! I’m sure it will follow suit with their excellent test scores and school systems. Unironically, I want your suggestion for state-run healthcare to be a reality, just so we can all see it in practice.
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Now that they're bilaterally hated, what would the consequences be realistically of them being murdered, everyone would just celebrate it no?
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>>521061941
What did Democrats get out of shutting down the government?
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>>521071930
why dont you tell me how the public schools are doing in California, Illinois, and New York. LOL.
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>>521063542
>plan to get out of.
Tax renumeration at 100%. You're sending a hundred bucks to your family in India? 200.
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>>521071930
>you should just ignore the unspecified criteria by which mass is #1, forget that they tried state run healthcare and it failed miserably, and just accept the fallacy that state run health care is proper
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>>521062091
Who the fuck is "Senator" Angus King?
Never heard of this guy; makes sense, though, no prominent democrat wants to go on camera
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>>521072462
ACT scores by state, 2023
Again, I don’t know why you’re all upset. Let’s push healthcare to the states. Fuck it, let’s have the states do everything and anything. Let’s stop having California bail out the country with their tax money. Let’s have red states fund themselves and make their own decisions and pave their own roads, run their own school, run their own healthcare systems. If there’s any historical truth, it’s that conservative states do an excellent job investing in their own infrastructure, education and social programs.
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>>521063392
I don't think it's being talked enough about how prolific and effective the brainwashing has been over the last 50 years from our mass media, academia, and now internet. I mean when galaxy brains and (((experts))) talk about mass social conditioning and propaganda, their go-to examples, Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, are now incredibly archaic and obsolete in terms of technological and social utility. Back then, they mostly operated on posters, great orators, and catchy slogans. Now days, unless you're fucking Jeremiah Johnson and living in the mountains, you're bombarded by relentless, subliminal conditioning practically from the moment you open your eyes and ears in the morning. Ads, TV shows, social media, schoo lteachers. Everything is out to mold people, and the younger the better. Then some wonder why our youth are so fucked up.

The older I get, the more I understand Uncle Ted. Sadly while he assessed the problem, his proposed solution, killing random people, was retarded.
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>>521073040
>Act scores tell us why healthcare...uhh...health....what do you mean this are school test scores, how am I getting healthcare measurements by this....well it doesnt matter, muh socialized healthcare ftw!
you must have been raised by niggers and edumucated by a purple haired tranny
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>>521062077
I didn't even have to use my AK
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>>521061941
Turns out asking for your constituents to suffer for your political gain is retarded after all.
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>>521064314
King Charles doesn't identify as a tyrant so they have to respect that. Its called internal consistency, bigot. The monarch fights for the rights of muslims to stab his citizens and that's goddamned progressive.
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>>521062507
Delusional faggots are delusional
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>>521073630
The other anon asked for it, and it illustrates how poorly conservative states do in terms of investing in human capital. As for you, there are dozens of these country-wide analyses of healthcare and dozens of maps showing again and again that the southern states blow dick at healthcare. If you’d like, I can give them all you, but how about this? How about instead of having a meltdown about Massachusetts and Mitt Romney, you provide one (1) analysis that suggests that southern states perform well in healthcare. I can already guess that you will throw a tantrum about this study because, well, you just will, so do me a favor and give one single piece of evidence in support of your position. I’m on the edge of my seat, but take your time if you need.
https://renewbariatrics.com/healthcare-rankings/
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>>521073842
Correction. I mistakenly implied the British were citizens and therefore had rights. They are subjects and are therefore acted upon by their rightful rulers. I regret this oversight as it came from a place of deep personal freedom and exposed my privilege as a sovereign man. I know now that the majority of bipeds in the world are in fact a slave race. I will endeavor to choose my words more carefully in the future.
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>>521074130
All I'm getting from this is White states are good and black states are bad.
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>>521074130
>Muh healthcare
Yeah,we know people in the blue states are a bunch of paper skinned disease vectors who would die without gubmint gibs. Fuck em.
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>>521074524
I accept your concession.
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>>521073516
>their go-to examples, Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, are now incredibly archaic and obsolete in terms of technological and social utility
It's like you've read my mind here anon, and yes it's not talked about much because those who are brainwashed don't realize that they're brainwashed. Many, perhaps most who aren't brainwashed, don't realize the extent of how organized the worldwide social conditioning machine really is.
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>>521073726
Yes, you could say it was a good day.
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>>521064652
I want to laugh but it's just sad, for over a decade we tried to warn eruopeans and all they ever did was shout "mutt mutt mutt" and now their cities are 30% White.
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Why do they feel the need to 'stand up to Trump'?
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Jor Scar is a republican.
Angus King is an independent.
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They had zero plan for Republicans simply not immediately caving. This entire shutdown was a gambit from Schumer and jefferis to save their own jobs, and it has failed
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....yours..if you can keep it...
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>>521066321
Wait I thought he didn't have time to play with himself!?!
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>>521074130
>State Snapshots, an interactive tool from the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ), uses more than 250 statistical measures to offer state-by-state summaries of health care quality. The tool, based on AHRQ's 2015 National Healthcare Quality and Disparities Report, analyzes quality in three dimensions: type of care (such as preventive or chronic), setting of care (such as nursing homes or hospitals), and clinical areas (such as care for patients with cancer or diabetes).
this is such a mess of data so as to be relatively meaningless and boosts scores with more subsidies
in effect all you've said is
>if the state spends more money then it has better healthcare outcomes, just look at the score go up!
>hahaha states that dont waste as much money have lower scores
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>>521061941
>Let's do everything but just paying this guy and see what happens. Let's ruin his opportunities too, that'll help!
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>>521061941
What happened?
A week ago they were all hyped after their little deep blue state, and deep blue city "gonna be a real nail-biter" elections.
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>>521074993
They stand up to "Trump" <---(code word) Because they've been brainwashed by literal demons and their puppets.
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>>521075532
>there’s simply too much data for it to be convincing
>you can’t just invest in healthcare, that’s cheating
Kek.
Okay, well, as I anticipated this response, I told you that you could provide one (1) analysis suggesting that conservative states perform well in healthcare. Judging by your response and length of time, I’m guessing you came up short and had to settle for discrediting this study. Again, I accept your concession, and I hope your suggestion that states take over healthcare comes to fruition. Have a good day my fellow state’s rights enthusiast
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>>521070291
Wow, this map should be completely inverted. I've been to both of these states, Massachusetts I worked in around 3 months and Oklahoma I lived and worked there for a year. Oklahoma is a paradise and Massachusetts is a shit hole. My quality of life was so much better in Oklahoma.
>fresh air
>affordable rent
>lots of work everywhere
>87% white in my city (stillwater)
As opposed to Massachusetts (Boston area)
>niggers everywhere
>chinks everywhere
>spics everywhere
>heroin addicts everywhere
>expensive as fuck for everything
>smog filled dystopia Grey sky every time you go outside.

It's undeniable at this point that every graph and map that shows these types of comparisons is propaganda and completely false.
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>>521075441
They steal everything from me and lie, so I sabotaged their shit like they sabotage me.
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You deny me, I deny you. Simple as.
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>>521076158
Personally, I bet Oklahoma reported lower test scores on purpose so that nobody moves there to suck up all that sweet sweet fresh air.
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>>521076090
>y-you cant tell me that just throwing money at something isnt going to fix it
dont bullshit us and attempt to give the impression that you in any way shape or form understand the data you've presented
you passed it along without looking at it
like a true jewish mindbot leftist, you believe that throwing "State" money at something means you have a better outcome
places like Oklahoma are most hated by leftoids because democrats cant win so much as a single county there and the people rely on themselves
statists dont like that, Oklahoma bad for not throwing tons of taxpayer money over to the healthcare conglomerates
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>>521061941
The dems probably ended the shutdown because trump promised to give ukraine tomahawk missiles. You watch.
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>>521076412
You are infuriated. I will not respond any longer; your inability to muster up any support of your position is getting tiresome, and I’m bored of your shitflinging.
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>>521061941
death is Donnie's only weakness

literally no republican candidate that can fill half of his shoes
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>>521066536
Point and laugh, everyone, at the shill who thinks readers here don't understand the concept of "refinancing in line with one's optimal financial planning."
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>>521067953
Obamacare and most federal healthcare laws of created a positive feedback loop in insurance costs. They cap profits at a fixed percentage of expenditures encouraging insurance companies to never actually negotiate anything with healthcare providers to drive down costs. I.e., the only way for them to increase profits is to spend more on healthcare. It's why the cash price at the doctor's office is 30% of what they'd bill your insurance company.
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>>521061941
So funny to see msm pumping out how trump won and all democrats lost in both the news and comments. It’s so fake and astroturf.
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How fucking dumb is it to rely on theft and deception exclusively when you need your victim to comply with you for what you want to happen. Try using honey instead of theft next purgatory reset, you fucking morons.
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>>521076973
True, democrats won because shareblue paid me 5 rupees to post on this board that they won no matter how retarded it looks
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>>521076355
Personally I don't give a fuck about test scores in some kike tranny propaganda factory. I just know the area and everyday life was way more affordable and enjoyable in Oklahoma.
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I told you guys, greed and sexual perversion is going to damn all of you. See what happens? Idiots.
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>>521076824
>never actually negotiate anything with healthcare providers
they do this constantly. you know nothing
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>>521077980
Liar.
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>>521077384
It’s a damn shame that all metrics and all studies don’t reflect your experience and your interests personally. Based on that alone, you’ve convinced me that these maps comparing states are propaganda, as you said. Until these liberals start measuring this particular anon’s concerns, I’m not looking at any more so-called statistics, which are wrong, and I’m definitely not going to care about any tranny factories or schools or students, that’s for damn sure. You should run for office in Oklahoma, anon. I think you could do well there.
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If I don't exist, you don't exist. Get it?
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>>521076570
>I've been called out that I dont understand what I've posted, I'll slink away before there's further btfo coming my way
gg faggot
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>>521077980
>2 wolves negotiating the sheep for dinner
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>>521078769
No kidding, this is one of the most one-sided victories I’ve ever had on /pol/. It was that bad. I’m not even mad that you think you’ve made a point or want the last word or whatever; the thread speaks for itself. It ran its course when you were obviously out of your depth, and now it’s over. gg indeed.

Go ahead and get the last word in.
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>>521079161
>no u
typical plebbitor when they make a shit argument and get called out on it
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>>521062077
lmfao fist bump
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>>521061941
If opposing the opposite party "doesn't work", then what purpose does this party have? Is it for "feel-good" hot air and humiliation rituals?
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>>521075911
Checked. I still find it hard to believe people are so easily convinced. I kinda get it for the average person, they've got more important day to day things they need to take care of. Its the people in politics who go along with the messaging that doesn't align with reality that get me. Of course there are those from which the message comes from that are obviously malicious actors, but those who have gone along with them and then have seen they were false but continue listening anyways that bothers me.
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>>521061941
No kin—ACK!!
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>>521061941
>norwegian flag
>redblue twitter slop
It's a jeet thread.
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>>521073040
Act scores mean literally nothing because it's not a universally taken test. Much larger percentages of students take the test in the Midwest than the select few who take it in the northeast... the reverse applies to the SAT. Midwest states look like they crush the northeast on the SAT because its only taken selectively there. Congrats on your 90 IQ and nigger level understanding of statistics, you retarded faggot.
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>>521066171
So Trump could dismantle the ACA some more. Hope you're not poor because your premiums just went up.



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