Something I've noticed about the right-wing movements from watching old videos and discussions is that there used to be a huge part of the population that was genuinely, earnestly religious. They weren't acting, or pretending, they believed in the actual fundamental teachings of Christianity and accepted them as reality. And this gave them this honest focused energy in their ideology.Compare that to today, even though there are thousands of guys on here and elsewhere who post Templars and crosses, or get apparently angry when religion is mocked, there is something very off. There is something vapid and insincere about it. Religion is used more as an aesthetic buffer to arguments, instead of the argument itself, and the ideological positions so often slide completely away from anything an actual religious person could ever believe or support. So I'm curious, how many of you here sincerely believe in an Abrahamic god? How many of you are actually atheists or agnostics and just pretend to be religious to fit in ideologically?
I believe in God, but not the tranny jew demon yhwh
Thanks for having produced so much text Aaron.
>>521396117Absolutely, without a doubt I am a believer. Coming to know him as I am? That’s the hard part
>>521396117look what not believing in one got youran over by people who dogood job retard
I believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I highly recommend Catholic or Eastern Orthodox if you would like to convert to Christianity. If not those, then very traditional Lutheranism that still uses all the Sacraments.
It seems that there is a God. I do not claim personal familiarity with him.
>>521396117I am in love with our father God.
>>521396117No.
>>521396469You talk about it like recommending restaurants. Surely you believe there is only one that can be correct and that's the one you follow?
There is this jew who keeps telling me to go to Church, but I just don't trust him, so I'm going to do the opposite of what he says.
The hardest thing for right wingers is to admit that they (and their ancestors) were wrong. They should recognize the wickedness of Jesus and denounce Jesus.There is no way you can have an ethnostate with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus' teachings invariably lead to globo homo
>>521396117Modern Christcuckery is just a contrarian response to atheist redditors from 4chan affiliated faggot incels. Everything conservatives do is just a performative reaction to negative stimuli. They’re like dogs or chimps, you can manipulate them very easily which is why kikes like Alex Jones can get away with selling Vitamin C to his retard fanbase for 100 dollars a pill.
>>521396117The Christian God is indeed real yes. Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, was crucified by the Romans at the pressure of the Jews and died for all sinners, becoming the new Adam and correcting humanities mistake made in the Garden, repaving the way to paradise, and using His death to beat humanities final death.
Man im glad you guys believe in me now. Ive been lurking your species since creation and let me tell you.... I Fucked up bad.But its been entertaining to watch.Do you know i sell your internet activities to more advanced species like the show you guys did called Wild Kingdom.OMG the viewership. This shit id lite and the responses are pure Fire.Just now you guys created true AI in a lab not 40 miles from a boarder guard who is brainwashed got his head chopped off by gang members that erased there brains with dope.You kiddos are truly amazing.Oh my Me i never thought you would survive more than a few hours outside the garden let alone BURN IT ALL DOWN and build a sin apocalypse with the ruins.But ill make good with my words.You make it law down here ill hold it true in heaven.I got truckloads of drugs. Children for all your leaders to fuck marry kill and literal oceans of Adderall for you when you get here.As below. As Above.
>>521396888Oh marxist, the 2030s and 2040 are going to be defined by anything with a degree being thrown into a mass grave or worked to dead in a field. You get Cambodian communism, with unironic right wingers at the top
OP, I agree. Liberalism has smashed Christianity and we'd be better off just letting Christianity die. Christianity can't compete. Most are in it for secular reasons or accident of birth, and if they knew better they'd leave Christianity to die.>>521396117I used to entertain Christianity for secular reasons "it's good for our society" and "keeps people in check", but after years of being around real, authentic Christianity... I decided I'd rather be with the detractors, even Liberalism appeals to me more than Christianity.It really is a kind of slave morality and not aligned with the West at all (and people who think it is aligned with the West and their race don't know Christianity).>So Jesus called them together and said, “You know that those regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their superiors exercise authority over them. But it shall not be this way among you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be the slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.”Mark 10:42-45
>>521396117I believe that if god exists he probably doesn't give a shit about what we're doing, or actively wants us to suffer. The whole kid with an anthill thing; he's got better things to do than burning ants with a magnifying glass all day
>>521396964Seconding this.Christianity is at the root of cucked character of conservatism.Don't fall for the romanticized slop christianity and high fantasy appeal.
>>521396117Im a deist so yes.
>>521396117I think a lot of people just never really questioned it. God was a fact of life, so even if they didn't go to church or really worship God, they still accepted there was one.Today, we're too skeptical. We have no faith in anything besides what we're taught in school. People trying to be religious today are very defensive about it, because there is always a part of them that needs to convince themselves.We've really been ruined by subversive education systems.
>>521397085The entire purpose of that verse is humility. The creator of the universe being born as a flesh and blood man who served His creation instead of crowning Himself king over the earth, which he would have every right to do. God is a servant to His people and we are called to mirror His example and be servants ourselves.
>>521396117Christ is King. Everyone in this thread saying otherwise is an unrepentant sinner. Fuck niggers, fuck kikes, and fuck you, faggot. There are plenty of Christians here.
>>521396117we were talking to the gods up until the jews stole our drugshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
>>521397312I know that and it's cucked.
>>521396233Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>521396117This is the dawning of the age of Theus.
>>521397516>Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:wrong, christianity doesn'tt care for your political ideology.a lot of people are on board for christianity because frankly they are deceived their interests align with christianity -- they don't.Christianity is not only indifferent, but actively opposed to what /pol/ wants besides hating faggots, but that little trinket doesn't make up for the utter lack of everything else.
>>521397480The Jews during His time thought the same thing. They were waiting for a general, but got a servant instead. It's a reinforced message of humility throughout the New Testament. The Gentiles replaced the Jews and the Jews who became Christian were called to abandon this superiority complex they had. It's the same reason why John the Baptist said he wasn't worthy of baptizing Jesus, that Jesus should be the one to baptize him. In that act of recognition John was made worthy. Likewise the thief on the cross doesn't asked to be saved, realizing he deserved crucifixion, but only asks Jesus to remember him. Again, in that act of immense humility he was made worthy of salvation.Humility is the major takeaway and overall message.
>>521396117>DEUS VULT
>>521397966It is very much in line with slave morality, but it didn't start in the New Testament.It started with the Old Testament when the jews were slaves in Egypt.Every Christian regards his country really as a spiritual Egypt.
>>521396117God is an indelicacy against us thinkers. - Nietzsche
>>521398214I would argue there is no such thing as morality outside of the Christian paradigm. If morality is subjective then by definition things like good and evil don't actually exist.It's anecdotal, but for me at least, I've seen way to much genuine evil in this world for it to simply be a concept. Absolute evil exists, therefore the opposite must be true.
>>521396477I'm the same. I like to ask Christians questions because some things i still can't understand. Like for example:What would have happened if Adam would have made the right choice? What was wrong with Adam that made him fail to make the right choice? Was he made with a flaw on purpose? How can Adam be blamed for having said flaw and then punished for it, how is that fair? It's not his fault he has a flaw.
>>521398499How about this, what kind of morality is this, objective or subjective?>If an action that you are about to do will result in anyone, be it you or anybody else, suffering, then it is not the right action to do, and it should be scrapped. Instead a new, better action, such that it doesn't result in suffering of anyone, including you, should be found and then performed.>If an action results in anybody, be it you or anyone else, suffering, then it can't be called good.
>>521398499>I would argue there is no such thing as morality outside of the Christian paradigm.That is why /pol/ hates Christians, precisely for what you're addressing as I brought up "Every Christian regards his country really as a spiritual Egypt". Christfags will say we're Jewish for wanting to stick to our nationality and customs, that it mimics the racial chauvinism of the jews, but naked Christianity is just like the low church schizo protestant evangelical zionist who rants about Israel and condemns the rest of society as Babylon.While this repulsive to most Christians, the spirit of Christianity is not far from it if you replace all the hatred these evangelicals have towards us with another jerusalem (new jerusalem).
>>521397516.
>>521396117Yeah, I believe in God. too many times I've had to deal with death, atheists are stupid.
>>521396117>how many of you here sincerely believe in an Abrahamic god?Asking that is not reliable. Look instead at how many actually act like it is true. Sure, humans are not perfect and can slip up sometimes, but consider how many supposed believers put way less effort into being good believers than things like their careers or chasing girls...If you really believe in the abrahamic good, then it should guide your entire life. Getting into heaven is obviously a bazillion times more important than everything else put together.
If you want to understand half the case for neopagan appeal here, I'd say read Rousseau. He adequately sums up nationalists' frustration with Christianity. Rousseau Social Contract pages 67 through 73.https://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/rousseau1762.pdf>You may ask: ‘Why were there no wars of religion in the pagan world, where each state had its own form of worship and its own gods?’ >My reply is that just because each state had its own form of worship as well as its own government, no state distinguished its gods from its laws. Political war was also theological war; the gods had, so to speak, provinces that were fixed by the boundaries of nations. The god of one people had no right over other peoples. The gods of the pagans were not jealous gods>This was the situation when Jesus came to set up on earth a spiritual kingdom, which, by separating the theological from the political system, destroyed the unity of the state, and caused the internal divisions that never ceased to trouble Christian peoples. This new idea of a kingdom of 'the other world' could never have occurred to pagans, so they always regarded the Christians as really rebels.>However, as there was always a prince and civil laws as well as a church, this double power created a conflict of jurisdiction that made it impossible for Christian states to be governed well; and men never managed to discover whether they were obliged to obey the master or the priest.>Several peoples, however, even in Europe and its neighbourhood, have tried to preserve or restore the old system–tired and failed, because the spirit of Christianity has won every time. The sacred cult has always remained or again become independent of the sovereign and not essentially linked with the body of the state.
>Among us Europeans, the Kings of England have been made heads of the Church, and the Czars have done much the same.>The philosopher Hobbes is the only Christian writer who has seen the evil and seen how to remedy it, and has dared to propose bring the two heads of the eagle together again, restoring the total political unity without which no state or government will ever be rightly constituted. But he should have seen that Christianity's domineering spirit is incompatible with his system, and that the priest's side of the divide would always be stronger than the state's. What has drawn down hatred on his political theory is not so much what is false and terrible in it as what is just and true…>But this religion, having no special relation to the body politic, leaves the laws with only the force they draw from themselves without adding anything to it; which means that one of the great bonds for uniting the society of the given country is left idle. Worse: so far from binding the citizens' hearts to the state, it detaches them from that and from all earthly things. I know of nothing more contrary to the social spirit.>Christianity is an entirely spiritual religion, occupied solely with heavenly things; the Christian's country is not of this world.>But I'm wrong to speak of a Christian republic–those terms are mutually exclusive.
>>521396117> believeYou have to be 18 to post here
>>521398526Free will is not a flaw but a gift. It goes like this:>God desires the love of His creation>Love has no value if it is not given willingly>Therefore, man has the gift to make the choice to love>Adam and Eve made their choice to defy God>With this action, man lost his divinity and fellThis is not a punishment, more like a consequence of our actions>Man is now mortal, and the price to be paid for our mistake is the all devouring death>God has a plan to correct our mistake>God comes down as a flesh and blood man as the *new* Adam>As a man, God is tortured and dies a mortal death>By this action, God pays the price of humanities mistake, instead of us, through an act of love, saving us from permanent death>This paves the way for humanity to regain what was lost, our divinityMan can still choose to defy God even with God's sacrifice. Hell is simply a place of separation from God. Permanent death. God loves us enough to allow us the choice to either spend eternity with Him, or not. >"Why can't God just save everyone anyway? Is free will really that important?"God needed permission from the Holy Virgin Mary to incarnate in the flesh. That isn't to say that He was somehow limited or incapable, God can do whatever He wants, but to become the *new* Adam he needed consent, Mary had to make a choice. If God simply incarnated without Mary's consent, then He could have simply forced Adam and Eve not to make their choice. Mary making her choice becomes the *new* Eve. In short, our salvation is one that requires our participation.
Anyone who1. “ thinks” 2. “ believes” Should be ridiculed incessantly
Anyone who “ believes” Should be scorned and mocked.It’s time to grow the fuck you faggots
>>521396117No, and you would have to be a fucking spastic to do so.
Anyone who “ believes” is nothing but a fool and has not surpassed a child’s stage mindset
>>521399498>Free will is not a flaw but a gift.The ability to do evil is though. So big of a flaw that we all suffer because of it now. So big of a flaw that God felt the need to punish Adam for having that flaw. The problem is, God made Adam that way. He made him with a flaw, he created him worse than he could have been, so that he would then have an excuse to torture him.Before Adam had free will he was able to make the right choice every time. WIth free will he lost that ability, making him suffer as a result of that loss. Would you say that was an upgrade or a downgrade?What changed by gaining free will? The good choice was the same as before, and now only the wrong, evil choice was added. That's like having only a lobster on the menu and then adding shit to it so that customers can 'choose freely'. Then you tell them that if they want to appreciate the lobster they have to eat shit as well.
>>521399498Are you telling me God was unable to make a universe without hurting us in the process? He can do anything, but he just can't do that. Impossible. Really? Is there someone above God preventing him from doing that? Is someone preventing him from ending suffering this instant? No? So he choose not to, correct? He could have chosen not to make us suffer, but didn't, correct? Why would i trust someone who failed to protect me from suffering once already? Who says he wont do it again?
>>521398679There's an issue at the very beginning of your hypothetical.>"If an action that you are about to do will result in anyone, be it you or anybody else, suffering, then it is not the right action to do, and it should be scrapped.">rightWho's to say me making a choice to suffer is not the "right" thing? God made the choice to suffer for our sake, whether you agree with Christianity or not, you'd agree within our paradigm God doing that is the "right" or, as your follow up assertion puts it, a "good" thing. You'd have to demonstrate to me why suffering isn't "good". What if I work a back breaking job and suffer to support my children? Is that not right? Is that not good?>>521398869I believe God made everyone different for a purpose. The story of the tower of Babel is a warning for us to not blend all cultures and language as races together. It was an abomination in God's eyes, we were all made different for a reason. We are our bodies, our resurrection is not just of the soul.
>>521399498>>Adam and Eve made their choice to defy GodWhy did they make the wrong choice? What was wrong with them? Clearly something must have been wrong, otherwise they would have made the right choice. What was it? Why were they made in such a way that they chose wrong? Why weren't they made properly, so that they would choose right? Were they manipulated into making the wrong choice?
>>521399498>his is not a punishment, more like a consequence of our actionsBut it's a consequence of God's actions. God decided to give us free will, thus forcing us to make the wrong choice. Had he not given us free will we would not have been able to make the wrong choice. He enabled the wrong choice to be made. He could have not done it, and we wouldn't be suffering, is that correct?
>>521396117None of them believe. Being a christfag is the new new atheism to make themselves look elevated and intelligent; or some vague claim of "heritage" and their politics. Reality is most people in the 'western' world are not spiritual or religious, not really. Real spirituality is niche.
>>521399498>God has a plan to correct our mistakeBut not his mistake? Why didn't he create us properly, so that we would work properly, and so that we wouldn't get hurt as a result?
>>521396117>There is something vapid and insincere about itIts just to own the libs, trigger the libs. They don't know actual church goers are okay with what ever is the modern agenda.
>>521399323>>521399367Rousseau is vindicated when he says this.Like the detracts around here say, a Christian nationalist is an oxymoron -- fundamentally incompatible. A true Christian only regards the abode of his pews as his true home and Christians as his true people -- there is no room for any other identity or nation in his view than the Christian nation and the bosom of the Church.The only building Christians like is the Cathedral -- all other buildings of the lay people are held in contempt, because it represents to a true Christian another City: the only City Christians belong to is New Jerusalem, and the Cathedral represents this cosmopolitian Anti-City City.Your racial inheritance and country -- a true Christian cares naught about.>“I am a Christian. He who answers thus has declared everything at once—his country, profession, family; the believer belongs to no city on earth but to the heavenly Jerusalem.”St. John Chrysostom
>>521400396> I believe Fag. Grow up!
Read mere christianity by CS lewis
>>521400396>ou'd have to demonstrate to me why suffering isn't "good".It's pretty simple: Does it make you feel good or bad?
>>521396117We used to burn witches, stone adulterers, and cut out the tongues from blasphemers because they were all afronts to God. We need to go back to that.
>>521400396>What if I work a back breaking job and suffer to support my children? Is that not right? Is that not good?It breaks your back, anon, you tell me. The fact that you had to go so low as to risk bodily injury just because God felt the need to make you feel bad, i don't know what to tell you, anon...
>>521396469>>521396609Yeah this is offputting.I struggled all my life with mixed-christan family and beliefs. My grandmother is deeply faithful to the catholic church. Because mother is a hippy and my father a liberal, i wasnt raised in the church and wasnt baptized catholic. Ive been to sunday mass, but havent felt very welcome there. I FEEL like the KJV is the most accurate translation. My grandmother td me that isnt the “catholic” bible a few years ago
Not only is a Christian indifferent to the fate of your people and its inheritance (which they preach to give away in a show of indifference to "worldliness"), but true Christians are actively opposed to it.Christianity even in a wholly Christian society still regards the people around them like a Big Public School (and I say that for society at large)... It makes its devotees look at society like jews in the abode of their synagogue looking out at contempt for gentile society... Christianity always regarded the rest of lay people and society as a Heathen host and this is becoming more self-evident as Christianity dwindles back from being the predominate religion. This is Christianity's true nature and it shines moreso when it is scaled back to this degree.Every Christian regards his country as Spiritual Egypt or a Babylonian Captivity pulling him from his bosom of the Church. He holds as much contempt for his country as a Babylon like evangelical zionists hate this country for jewrusalem's sake, but for the Christian it is for New Jerusalem's sake.
>>521401190You’re pedophile priests should have been burned
>>521401316>struggled with beliefsAnother fool
>>521400113Free will does not necessitate evil. Evil is a privation of Good, it doesn't have a positive ontology. Take a shadow for example. A shadow doesn't have a positive ontology, it's simply the absence of light. Its a privation of light. God has free will, yet God does not do evil. He does however permit evil in the world as a consequence of our choice. Again, God desires our love, and we, whether we like to admit it or not, desire love as well. If God made us like puppets with no free will, love would not be possible.>>521400311"For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain." Rom 8:22Paradise was that place with absence of suffering and pain. God made that place for us. We of our own choice left that place.>>521400479There was nothing wrong with them, again they just made the choice to live outside of paradise. And the blame isnt all on Adam and Eve. We deliberately make the same choice Adam and Eve did hundreds, thousands of times. I've made that choice today even. It's a constant battle with this fallen world. Christ tells us we don't belong here, we weren't made for this world, we're like foreigners here. We belong in paradise with Him.
>>521396117I believe in God. Christ is King.
Christianity's true character is to be driven underground and looking out at society from the depths of little Church grotto and coven like it was during the persecutions in Rome.
the problem is when you get redpilled on race and you realize Christianism is about globalism. In fact, they were the first ones to bring nigger to Europe with all their charity bullshit.
Yes. I also happen to be a complete fucking retard who continues to sin and relies entirely on the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.
>>521401027Suffering for the sake of someone else is good. You're just reasserting it's "bad". I would say pointless suffering is a result of the fallen world we live in.>>521401238Again it's a result of the fallen world. This argument is essentially:>why doesn't God just make my choices for me?Idk about you, but I would always choose free will over being puppeted.
>>521399498>Free will is not a flaw but a gift.A gift that makes you feel bad as a result. Who asked for that? A gift that takes away your ability to make the right choice every time, dooming you into eventually making the wrong choice, so that then God can have a warrant to make you suffer.
>>521401408Faggit nobody took me to church as a child and grandma lives on the opposite side of the continent.Cuz you were raised in the church makes your faith valid, while my faith ive had to find myself is invalid by default?Whats it like being a smug faggot?
>>521401747It is so fun. I love telling people the truth and watching them get butt wrecked. I kinda live for it
>>521401885>i live for the deadly sin of prideGreat life bud
>>521399498>God loves usIf you love someone, do youa) make them suffer?orb) protect them from suffering?If you hate someone, do you:a) make them suffer?orb) protect them from suffering?
>>521401747Do you understand why I love the truth? It’s not because it relies on my belief. I love the truth because it destroys sand castles of arrogance and smug assholes who think they know everything but don’t . And that’s you!
>>521401962It’s not my pride. It’s yours dumbass. You can’t accept the medicine, it’s not sweet enough for your delicate tatse
>>521396246wolf in sheeps clothing
>>521400637>>521400805>>521401740Again, you're essentially arguing in favor of no free will. Is that even living at all? If all of our lives we are controlled, piloted? God loves us so He gave us free will. If we choose to do evil in our lives, that is us doing our will, not His.
>>521402070Is God not protecting us from eternal suffering by suffering Himself on the cross? The Christian paradigm answers this question with it's own assertion.Suffering when done to protect or care for someone else is good. Suffering for the sake of your children is good. The promise is that we wont have to toil in this life forever. This is only temporary. True suffering is never knowing God at all. Eternal Hell.
Christians are a spiritually circumcised people, their hearts are circumcised.Christ is their King, and the King of the Jews.By drinking Christ's blood, they inherit qualities of being spiritual jews, because Christ is King of the Jews, and by this blood relationship they are grafted into this family.
>>521401409>Paradise was that place with absence of suffering and pain. God made that place for us. We of our own choice left that place.Explain what made us make that choice? What went wrong that we failed to make the right choice? What was wrong with us that we failed to make the right choice? Could we have been created better, so that we would make the right choice, but we weren't? Was it on purpose? Were we manipulated? If you have to manipulate someone into making a certain choice, can you really say that it was done freely?
Grown men walking around in overly gaudy attire is just larping.
>>521401409>There was nothing wrong with them,If there was nothing wrong with them then they shouldn't get punished. So why did they get punished?
>>521402405What the fuck do you know? God ain’t doing shit to protect anyone from suffering. You fairy tale bullshit is gross, it is so condescending to anyone with half a brain. Money worshipper. I’ll bet you’re a Christian or Muslim or Jew grifter
>>521396117Nothing
Being as it were spiritually circumcised, a true Christian no longer feels at home among the gentiles and no longer a part of their family and their blood.For a true Christian belongs to a new blood.
>>521401409>We deliberately make the same choice Adam and Eve did hundreds, thousands of timesAha. Why is that? Will we ever be left alone? What do we have to do to be left alone? Will we ever be good enough for God so that he will stop torturing us? If i limit the choices you can make, would that still count as free will?
>>521401409>Christ tells us we don't belong hereSo there shouldn't be a problem if one wants to leave this world, right?
I believe in God because He heard my prayers.If you pray in Jesus Christ's name He will hear you. That's not to say prayer is like a gift list to Santa, but God will listen.
>>521402487We were created in God's image. There's nothing "wrong" with our creation. We simply made a choice to seperate ourselves from God, we desired to be our own gods, and thus we fell from our divine place.>>521402538Do you mean punishment as in the fall or punishment as in eternal damnation? Because those are two different answers.>>521402553I understand you're angry at the world, I get angry too, but know that God loves you and desires your love as well.
>>521401409>We belong in paradise with Him.So why didn't God make sure we stay there? He made the first mistake by giving us free will. He knew it would end in us suffering, correct? And he still did it. Now what do we call someone who knows that what he is about to do will bring pain and suffering to others, and then despite knowing that, goes ahead and does it anyway? If i would have done that, what would that make me? Do unto others...
Christianity has come to divide households and by extension divide nations.Your household and your nation must be sacrificed so New Jerusalem can live.Hitler Mein Kampf:>But the movement we were successful in placing this problem before the German people in the light of an idea that would unite them in one struggle the Jew reacted. He resorted to his old tactics. With amazing alacrity he hurled the torch of disc0rd into the patriotic movement and opened a rift there. In bringing forward the ultramontane question and in the mutual quarrels that it gave rise to between Catholicism and Protestantism lay the sole possibility, as conditions then were, of occupying public attention with other problems and thus ward off the attack which had been concentrated against Jewry. The men who dragged our people into this controversy can never make amends for the crime they then committed against the nation. Anyhow, the Jew has attained the ends he desired. Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts' content, while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.
>>521401409>There was nothing wrong with themThey just made the wrong choice. not the right one, the wrong one. But there was nothing wrong with them, no. Nothing at all. Why do i even bother...
This is why you are all a fucking ridiculous joke and no one cares about your dumb ass religions. “Gods going to torture me if I don’t worship him” > JOBGod is an imaginary friend , who is petty and who’ll torture you anyhow despite your worship. Get fukking wrekt!
>>521401409Once you're in paradise will you stop making those choices? What's to stop someone from using their free will to rebel once they're in Heaven? Why not just create us in that state in the first place?
>>521396117Yeah I believe in a God I just have no way to prove what one it is I assume its a single God but I doubt its any of the Abrahamic ones because they all sound retarded
>>521400396>Who's to say me making a choice to suffer is not the "right" thing?Why would you want to suffer? There is no reason to want to suffer. Why would anyone WANT that? Do you want others to suffer as well? Think carefully.
>>521396117Church age of Laodiceathe lukewarm church that only got rebukes by Jesus. this should tell you everything.
>>521402743In this life we will continue to sin up until our mortal death, it's true. God sacrificing Himself for our sake rescues us from dying permanently, which is the wage of sin.>>521402806Problem? Of course not. We're called to leave the world behind. It's often said that the saints were "dead" even while alive, because they had already died to the world. Killing yourself however is an abomination. Its an act made in an attempt to leave the world, but it's done in ignorance. We're here until we die a natural death. Life is a gift and it's not our place to take our own lives. This is different however than self sacrifice, if you were to die sacrificing yourself to protect others, that is a righteous thing.
>>521396233Jesus is yhwh
>>521402959Yeah I’m angry. If there was a god you think rules things he’d have sent an asteroid down to clean humans off this earth. But it’s a joke Because you look for any excuse to play along so you’re comforted knowing you are abandoned here. There is no Hope. There is no “ rider on a white cloud” coming to save you ..and there never was
>>521396609But gayanon, they ARE restaurants. They are nourishment, food for the soul. You must pick one that speaks to your ancestral blood memory, or the jew will supply you with their own god, greed, and heavy debt.
>>521403000I already answered this, because God desires our love, and there is no love without free will, or rather, the love has no value.>>521403167The choices we make to defy God are due to the fall and sin. Adam and Eve did not make the choice to defy God before the serpent tempted them to. There is no serpent in Heaven. So we will not rebel. As for why Satan and his legions rebelled in Heaven, it's a mystery to us, we are not angels, nor will we be.
>>521403343save him? why would he need saving? you are the one who is having issues in life. maybe you are not capable of solving your problems. maybe you should try harder anyways. hey, wouldnt it be nice if you had a few dozen friends from church who could help you out, who you had previously helped out? having a community is great, not that you would know.
>It follows from the incompatibility of National Socialist and Christian views that we must reject any strengthening of existing Christian denominations or any support for newly emerging Christian denominations. There is no difference between the different Christian denominations. For this reason, the idea of establishing a Protestant Imperial Church by uniting the various Protestant churches has been finally abandoned, because the Protestant Church is just as hostile to us as the Catholic Church. Any strengthening of the Protestant Church would only work against us.>It was a historical mistake of the German emperors in the Middle Ages that they repeatedly created order at the Vatican in Rome. In general, it is a mistake that we Germans unfortunately all too often fall into: we strive to create order when we should have an interest in fragmentation and disunity. The Hohenstaufens should have had the greatest interest in the fragmentation of church power. From the point of view of the empire, it would have been best if not one pope, but at least two, if possible even more, popes had existed and fought each other...>More and more the people must be wrested away from the churches and their organs, the pastors. Of course, from their point of view, the churches will and must defend themselves against this loss of power. >But the churches must never again be allowed to have any influence on the leadership of the people. >We would be repeating the mistakes that were the empire's downfall in the past centuries if, after recognizing the ideological opposition of the Christian denominations, we now somehow contributed to strengthening one of the various churches. The interest of the empire lies not in overcoming, but in maintaining and strengthening ecclesiastical particularism."Verhältnis von Nationalsozialismus und Christentum
>>521403543Yeah I’ve met churchians. No thanks The most phony pretentious cocksuckers imaginable. I’d rather wither here on my vine than associate with them
>>521401409>He does however permit evil in the world as a consequence of our choiceHe supports the existence of evil. He could have easily just eliminated it, or not created it in the first place. Correct? There's noone above him preventing him from doing that, is there?Why didn't he create the Paradise properly, so that nothing could go wrong and everyone would stay in there, happily forever?Why couldn't he create Heaven properly? It was perfect one moment, and then somehow, it all went wrong? Why wasn't Heaven created in such a way that things wouldn't have gone wrong? Is God sabotaging himself and others with him? What is going on here?Why weren't humans created properly, so that we would work properly, so that noone would get hurt as a result of things not working properly, and everyone would life a happy life? Why does God not want us to live happy lives? Why does he instead want us to feel bad?
>>521403777Again I explained that evil does not have a positive ontology. There is no such thing as "created" evil, only the privation of good.As for what God wants, God wants us to live happy lives, and there is no such thing as a happy life lived in rebellion to God.
>>521396117Christians have been raised in the belief that a convicted and executed doomsday cult leader is a god, their god. They don't dare ask why that "god" never answers their prayers. But in their heart, they know it's a scam and nothing they do makes a difference. Christians think all gods are like that, they think all gods are fake. That's what's keeping them demoralized. They don't know what it feels like to work with a real god. They don't even know it's possible.
>>521403777The entire Bible is written by Greeks who are and always were polytheists. Even Jews proclaimed god has a wife you faggot. How the fuck does god stand ina congregation of other gods “Elohim” Damn you people are as dumb as I’ve always speculated
What exactly does God want us to do anyway? Does he want us to do the right thing every time? How can we ensure that we do the right thing every time, and as a consequence not have to suffer anymore?
>>521396609>>521401316I fully recommend the Catholic church simply for Apostolic succession. But you fags won't get off the couch and go anyways unless you felt like there was a choice. So I listed the only other acceptable alternatives since they aren't that so far divorced from Catholicism like any penny protestant flavor you can go visit. Catholics are extremely transparent, but picking up the Catechism and reading it is probably too much for you anyways.
>>521396117I believe in the supreme being.I just personally also think he doesn't care for us or even knows we exist. And that's fine, I don't need recognition to praise Him who created everything and gave me this life.
>>521403664No (yous) because you're just a petulant child.>>521403869Total misrepresentation of the verse.
At this point the only thing I have is contempt for all the “ believers” And I’ve tried to be accommodating for the most part. You are a cult and you are indoctrinated and until you break your chains of ignorance you deserve your fate.
>>521404020Dont call me a fag, faggit.Ive been to 10 masses this year, u dont know me at all
washing feet isn't cool.
>>521403952>good can't exist separate of evilIs that what you're trying to say?>As for what God wants, God wants us to live happy lives, and there is no such thing as a happy life lived in rebellion to God.So if i go with God i will not suffer?
>>521396117I believe in a transcendent God just like the God of some mystics, theologians, and philosophers believing in a perennial philosophy (philosophia perennis).I think Christ was a divine descent of God in human form and gave real teachings on attaining to God-consciousness, but these were more potent teachings originally, and got diluted eventually by the Church, and the books that were left out.I think the original purpose of Christ’s teachings were for people to reach a state of transcendental God-consciousness oneself, becoming akin to Him. This doesn’t mean Christ isn’t uniquely different, having been sent here an express manifestation of God with a spiritual mission for humanity He was awakened to as He grew, studied spirituality, and was baptized by St. John the Baptist.
>>521403523>Adam and Eve did not make the choice to defy God before the serpent tempted them to. There is no serpent in Heaven.Why was there one in the Garden?
>>521398869>I believe in evolution>Evolution means UNIVERSAL common descent>But I hate Christians because they're, uh...."universalist".You don't believe there's a god for every tribe.You're just another impotent atheist.kys
>>521404027thats actually based
>>521404370With faith in God suffering is easier to tolerate.
>>521399323>neopaganLiterally an oxymoron.Worse still, you don't believe in god, pagan or otherwise, and everybody knows it.So you're schizo delusions of concocting a "whites only god" are both anti-evolution and everybody knows you don't believe it, yourself.
>>521403952If he wants us to live happy lives, then why didn't he create us in such a way that we would actually live happy lives? Why does he then do the things that ruin our lives then?
>>521404421Because Satan was jealous of man's place after his fall>>521404370No, evil does not have a positive existence. It's a privation of good. One cannot "create" evil.If you go with God you will not suffer in the next life, there is no promise to not suffer in this life. God suffered in this life.
>>521401332>Not only is a Christian indifferent to the fate of your people and its inheritanceYou're going to die.We know you fat Gen Xers grew up on shitty science fiction movies and you're too retarded to distinguish made-up bullshit from reality, but everything dies.The USA will die. Whatever replaces it will die. Whatever replaces those will die.Only God is eternal.
>>521396117I'm pretty sure Zeus has been whispering to me
>>521404523With faith in heroine. Suffering is legit bruh!
>>521404595Again, we make the choice on how we live our lives. We can't blame God for our choices.
>>521402504>Grown men walking around in overly gaudy attire is just larping.Take it easy on the Pagan Yule Goat.
>>521403952OK, let me ask you this way then. Why does evil exist? Could God have made the universe in such a way that evil wouldn't exist, but good would? Is he able to make such a universe where noone gets hurt?
>>521404715Oh look, its a shitty childish version of V.I. Lennin
>>521404519>worshipping a scrawny, raggy failed jew is basedit was a mistake Western people were caught up in this worship for so long.Total sunken cost fallacy is why people keep entertaining it, thinking that so many years spent with this religion of worshipping a kike on a stick would be meaningful later down the line.
>>521404789The Scandinavian Yule deity is totally unrelated to the Jewish deity Baphomet.The fact that they look identical is just a coincidence.
>>521404865>some Christians are stupid, so Christianity is my enemyUmmm....so why wouldn't the entire white race be your enemy?
>>521404659>Because Satan was jealous of man's place after his fallI mean why did God allow the serpent in the Garden, obviously.
myself and God existing are the only 2 things i know for certain.
>>521404865I want to see you carry a cross with half of your back missing you weak ass bitch.
>>521404689|>you're going to die, so chase after my carrot on a stick>forsake everything here and now, because muh carrot on a stickno.
>>521404835At least Lennin was actually real. I will respect even that over a myth.
>>521405023How would you know you were experiencing joyIf you had never felt sadness for one instant in your life?“Good” is a meaningless concept without something different to compare it to.150+ IQ christians know the scripture is divinely inspired because it reduces complex logical concepts into parables even children can understand.Literally read the fucking bible.
>>521404523So if i go with God i suffer, and if i don't i suffer. Correct? Why does God want me to suffer so badly? Does he demand suffering? Does he enjoy in it? Why does he want us to feel bad? I don't understand, i really don't. Is it his twisted way of showing love? Why did God make it obligatory to suffer? Why do i have to feel pain? Why is it impossible to avoid pain? Why does he want us to feel bad so desperately? If he didn't want it, he could have easily prevented it, correct?
>>521405072Jesus was crucified with other criminals.Getting executed doesn't make anyone special.Numerous people have met worse and more violent deaths.Not that it means much to begin with.
>>521405174Obviously you respect him because you butchered his words/s
>>521405224he was innocent
>>521405221See>>521405213You dont know joy, unless you know its ansence. Such a physical world you describe is impossible.
>>521405321You pick your poison. If “religion” gets you thru the day Maybe drugs get some thru the day. It’s all the same at the end we’re worm food.
People should be deeply humiliated, not for piety, but for shame.If Christianity is false (and it probably is), you and generations of people have forsaken pretty much everything for a carrot on a stick and promise of eternal pleasure and fear of eternal pain.You forsook your ancestral religions.You forsook your families.Your forsook your race.You even forsook yourself and your soul and identity and all your descendants to come...For a failed jewish messiah on rags.
>>521397085He posts while appreciating "man of the people" politicians that dress themselves up as servants and live like kings.
>>521405213You don't need to eat dung to enjoy a cupcake.
>>521397274>People trying to be religious today are very defensive about itBecause there's always one person that will hate them for it.
>>521405462You obviously haven't lived long enough to see how that works out.Its OK to be young and ignorant. Its not your fault.
I study it every single day
>>521405550nobody wants to be ruled by a groveling slave of all.I'd rather have a ruler with some dignity and prestige with qualities of leadership.
>>521405554If all you ate were cupcakes your entire life, you wouldn't really enjoy them much more than some poor soul fed dung his whole life would appreciate that he eats shit.
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>>521405651Yeah ok. I’m 50. I’ve been through hell and back and then someI think I got a lot more time and experience on my side And have worked things out. But like I said …if you’re able to get a good night sleep , hey whatever floats your boat. I know ( and I do mean KNOW) there is a creator by the way. Just don’t subscribe to your brand.
>>521404020For the nigger feet kissing succ
>>521404962I'd rather take the most shitlib Liberals than Christians.
>>521396117i believe in God but also know i'm trash who is probably going to hell. sorry, Jesus. sorry.
>>521405174Even the vast majority of atheist scholars accept that Jesus physically existed, totally denying his physical existence as a myth is a crackpot theory according to most scholars, again. He lived around the time attributed to him and inspired the creation of the religion based on his teachings, starting first with some handful of people, a dozen, dozens, then hundreds, thousands, millions, etc. It’s actually more irrational to think he never existed at all, even if you’re an atheist, or simply deny Christ was God; the same way that almost certainly Socrates existed, the Buddha existed, Muhammad existed, the Jain spiritual leader Mahavira existed, etc., even if you deny their spiritual teachings.
>>521406036That choice is an inversion of reality.The choice is a white christian europe or a nonwhite voodoo and muhammed europe.
>>521404523It's all just an elaborate scheme to make people suffer. However i look at it, it is all designed around and it all leads to suffering. Nobody sees it as a problem, quite the opposite.. People see nothing wrong with suffering and feeling pain, it's like i'm trapped with masochists who compete in who can make themselves and others suffer the most, blind from pain and tiredness, unable to see or hear any argument, unwilling to admit that it's all gone a bit overboard. They can't even comprehend that someone might not like it, even can't stand it, no, they plow on mindlessly, expecting better results from doing the same thing. Their minds are made of teflon, nothing sticks, they don't care how they feel, how others feel, some even have a magic switch that they can flip and decide how they're going to feel. Imagine hitting a jackpot like that... Anyway, they will always tell you that you have to suffer. That it's good. That it'll make you stronger lol. Never have i ever felt stronger after i had to suffer, i was broken and defeated. And they get stronger...
>>521404727Could i have made a choice to live a life free of suffering? Yes or no?
>>521405706That's good that you're not put off by leaders having billions of dollars. Plenty of people are. In fact there are plenty of people utterly envious of that who want class warfare.The pastor in Christianity is required to be humble because he's dealing with some powerful stuff. The congregation is taking life lessons from him, after all. That's why he's required to be of service instead of the way so many other religious people are where they want to either dictate to their congregation turning them into his personal army or be worshipped themselves. For the pastor it needs to be about serving the congregation and the church. It's easy to forget in that position.
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>>521406069Really there was one and only one rule Jesus used and it wasn’t his idea either . It IS the golden rule ( law of the prophets) and I think it’s safe to say it is lost on almost all Christians now.
>>521406138See>>521405823 and >>521405213
>>521404727Was it our choice to be created? Was it our choice to be given free will? Free will that is so free it has to be limited to only two options that both result in you suffering.
>>521404801Is it not enough to know that the universe works exactly how God wants it to work, and follows his highest sense of wisdom and goodness?
>>521406263Sometimes God gives you what you didn't ask for, but need. Enjoy the journey, ingrate.
>>521406359Or dont LMAO thats his choice
>>521405213>How would you know you were experiencing joyIt makes you feel good, are you retarded? XCan you not distinguish when you feel good and when you feel bad in isolation? Do you have to eat shit to be able to tell that the lobster tastes good?How does pain make you feel?
>>521406431Are you brown?
>>521405431>Such a physical world you describe is impossible.Is someone preventing God to make such a physical world? God is unable to make such a world?
>>521406036Christians ARE the shitlibs of the previous paradigm
>>521405042Then you're heretic
>>521406520Im truly sorry that God made you brown.You can eat shit and die.
>>521405324Nobody is innocent
>>521405213Can you not feel? If something makes you feel good, then it's good, and if it make you feel bad it's bad. Why can't such a system be implemented?
>>521406682>>521406520Its a logical fallacy.It cannot be.
>>521396117I think it’s fun when you ask those questions. Republicans always says those vague stuff then demands everyone submits to them.
>>521405823If i'm a DJ and if i play a good song it will make you feel good, and if i play you a bad song it will make you feel sick.First of all, if i play good song after good song, you will constantly feel good. So there is no reason for me to play anything else but good songs to you. I don't want you to feel bad, i want you to feel good.Secondly, imagine i secretly destroy all the bad songs without telling you, wat you're saying is that the good songs would now magically turn into bad or maybe average songs just because i deleted the bad ones. No they wont, they will stay just as good as they were, making people feel just as good as before.
>>521396117>Do any of you ACTUALLY believe in a God?i dont believe, i KNOW there is a god i just dont know if we are fucked or not when we die. its easily proven that god exists just with the rules of our reality existing. but none of that matters no one cares.
>>521396117I believe in God. I use /pol/ every other day. It was better when Christ Cucks and Storm Fags spammed the place up. They have the better memes.If you think you are better than a Christ Cuck or Storm Fag then fix the tranny homo shit in the next thread. You don't do that so to the camps you go.
>>521396298Very narcissistic relationship with god you've got there.
>>521396117Do YOU actually believe in Sweden?
>>521407227For all of you non-bots, including glowniggers, shills, and schizos...
>>521407008If you arent smart enough to understand the truth>>521406814That isnt your fault. You can blame God. That wont bend reality to fit your understanding tho.
>>521407183Very unsaved view of a relationship with God you've got there.
>>521402173Only a judaized cuck would dress as a sheep
>>521406814Is God is bound by logic? Is logic above God? Is logic preventing God from not hurting anybody?
Psalm 2>Why do the nations [goyim] conspire>and the peoples plot in vain?>The [gentile] kings of the earth rise up>and the rulers band together>against the Lord and against his anointed, saying,>“Let us break their chains>and throw off their shackles.”>The One enthroned in heaven laughs;>the Lord scoffs at them.>He rebukes them in his anger>and terrifies them in his wrath, saying,>“I have installed my (((king)))>on Zion, my holy mountain.”
>>521396117The part of our brain that allows us to receive messages from God has been destroyed by "vaccinations". Prayer used to be a dialogue, but we lost that ability, our parents and grandparents were tricked by the Enemy. So yes, our faith is different from the faith held by our grandfathers because we lack that guidance. That doesn't mean it's fake for performative as you imply, it just means it's less certain.
>>521407472Who made it so that it is so? Who decided that it can't be done? What else is prohibited/unavailable/forbidden here?
>>521401409Do you fags ever shut up about good and evil? You aren’t unique or special for wanting to be good.The only people that choose evil know its a bunch of horseshitExcept niggers who aren’t people
>>52139611799% of christkikes are just faking it because they think that the ends justify the means and the population is too stupid and vulgar to not be lead by a religion and Christianity is the only one with enough historical inertia to be viable. Naturally, a component of this is never ever admitting they're doing this, even anonymously .
>>521396117I believe in the real god, not the fake abrahamic god
This is the furthest christfaggotry will get you (in terms of being based).(It's not very impressive).>"A State may be strong when it serves a greater destiny when it feels itself to be the instrument of a great destiny for a people. Otherwise, the State is tyrannical.">“Spain cannot be defined by having its own language, or by being a race, or by being a set of traditions, on the contrary, Spain is defined by an imperial vocation to unite languages, unite races, unite peoples and unite customs in a world destiny; Spain is much more than a race and much more than a language, because it is something that is expressed in this way, from which I become more and more sure that this is the unity of destiny throughout the world.">“All humans are brothers, white and black, all because many centuries ago, in another distant land, one martyr shed his blood and sacrificed himself so that this blood would establish love and brotherhood among people on Earth.”— José Antonio Primo de Rivera
>>521407472If there was no way for God to make the universe without hurting us in the process, then maybe, just maybe, it wasn't a good idea to make the universe at all? Like, if you aren't sure that you're not going to hurt anyone doing it, then maybe you shouldn't do it? >>521407472So if God knew even he couldn't make it so, then why did he still do it? Why did he want to hurt us? Does he not care about 'Do unto others...'? Does God have empathy?
>>521408107>believe Shut your mouth fag!
So what would happen if Adam would have made the right choice? What was wrong with him that he failed to do that? What caused him to fail?
>“All humans are brothers, white and black, all because many centuries ago, in another distant land, one martyr shed his blood and sacrificed himself so that this blood would establish love and brotherhood among people on Earth.”— José Antonio Primo de RiveraA distant land, and one blood.Mind you, Christianity flourishes most when a people are most a bastard people and feel deprived and no visible head (so they are "spiritually" circumcised).Christ changes forms and morphs into the spiritual head of different races so the worshippers feel a sense of kinship and familial bond with the Christ figure. Again, it prospers most when people feel most they are a bastard people like orphans needing to be adopted.
>>521406814Are miracles not logical fallacy? God can't separate good and evil and then delete evil? In other words, whatever we do, evil will always exist, we will never experience peace, we can never be happy. Basically we aren't allowed to win. So why should i fight, if i know i can never win, if there ill never be an improvement? If everything i can ever do is all wrong, then why should i do anything? What is there left to do?
What's the point of being a God if you can't even not hurt anyone? Like, you're God, you have all this power, but for some reason you become completely powerless against pain and evil. Whatever system you try to make, pain and evil always sneak in somehow.
>>521409178DESU i dont take the parables in the bible literally.You should ask these questions to someone smarter than me who is renown for spiritual philosophy.Im a highschool and college dropout.
>>521406495No. Can you answer any questions?>>521406304If something makes you feel bad that is no sign of goodness, you people like to invert the two. You will tell people that pain is good and such nonsense.
>>521396117>Do any of you ACTUALLY believe in a God?Yes. The Earth is flat.
>>521406304>Is it not enough to know that the universe works exactly how God wants it to workI see, he actually wanted all that. As long as he gets his suffering i guess, whatever reason he has...
You have to be god yourself.Otherwise, no one is going to do the job.
>>521406359So we have learned that God forces you to exist, then manipulates you into doing something wrong, and then tortures you. Because he decided that's what you need. I guess it's fine if i do that to others as well.
>>521396117The Supremacy of Being asserts Itself a priori.Believe is not a question, its a requirement.
>>521403271hes yahweh's only begotten sonknow the differencejesus (the character) believed in yahweh>>521396117i believe in gods, plural. because i read Parmenides before I read the bible and watched him systematically disprove the possibility of there being a single god.believing in a single god is npc tier, its for people who cant conceive of anything beyond a single amalgamation of divine things who have to lump it all together into one easy introductory concept. it means theyve done absolutely zero work in thinking about god/gods/creation. they read the bible, but never actually thought about its application in reality. real men think about the gods with every free moment of their lives, its their roman empire.
>>521396964The issue is in those debate it was assumed Catholics needed to assert why their religion aligns to liberal modern value.It doesn't, but oh how they really wish it did so they could be accepted!
>>521410492>a priorichristkant reinventing the aristotelean wheelits crazy how all of western philosophy and theology is downstream from plato
>>521405213>“Good” is a meaningless concept without something different to compare it to.You're saying as if good changes in the absence of evil. If you need evil to do good, then you're not really doing good, you're first doing damage, and then fixing said damage, and at the end you're back at the start. YOu haven't achieved anything, you haven't improved anything. It's a definition of status quo. Suffering is still there, and we are still not allowed to hover freely above in the 'feeling good' zone, but are instead yanked down from it into 'feeling bad' land, because it's wrong to enjoy yourself too much and they don't want that, and it all cancels out.Knowing that whatever good time you're having you are effectively paying for it by feeling bad in the future, so it kinda looses it's appeal and makes one wary of enjoying yourself too much out of fear of retribution. It's not much fun knowing that everything that makes you feel good is locked behind feeling bad.
>>521410575Principalities and Powers, anon.
What can you even do here if you don't like suffering and pain? Nothing, useless, you're obsolete. They don't need people like me, they need brutes who enjoy pain.
>>521396117The performative false piety that you have identified is of the spirit of hypocrisy - or worse, spiritual conceit, or self or tribal exaltation (prides). We must guard ours souls from these things.Apart from this heavenly concern, it is also why the separation of church and state is important, and why Christ himself endorsed it - we shall render unto Caesar what belongs to him, because we as a body of believers are distinct and apart from the state and the world and all of its sovereigns. Christ is the lawgiver and the king of kings and his kingdom is not of this world. His charge to us is made tawdry and meaningless when made to spec for the citadel of your politics, a false temple. The fruit of the tree of a Christian's faith is love. Love also for ones enemy. Such precepts are incompatible with the foolishness of this world. Christ's charge to us is made cheap and tawdry when it's mixed with affairs of the state. There is also absolutely no continuity between the Crusades, which were responsive to the age, the suffering and persecution of Christians, morally justified and with the ecclesiastic authority and the imprimatur of the church (Christ's institution), to this farce observed on social medias. I will go even further when I summarize - Every "Christian nationalist" is a heretic or deceived by heresy
>>521397335And you are absolutely not open of them, nor remotely a Christian
Imagine someone only liked you if you hurt yourself. Would you want to be with someone like that?
>>521412073>Christ himselfThat's not what text is you flaming faggot Frenchman. Some author attributed words to your favorite Mediterranean fantasy man book character.
>>521396117the one and true who did not crusade the country of your flag and erase the vikings, why yes funny you should ask
Of God is unable to not hurt anybody, then how can he demand that from us? If he isn't perfect, how can we be? And why are we then being punished for not being perfect? Why the need to punish us? Was God unable to teach us things in some other, non-violent way? Why wasn't knowledge imbued into us? Why didn't God prevent all this? He knew he would cause damage.
>>521396117Everyone is a tare and pretty much no one is going to heaven. Maybe there are a handful of Nordic humans left. Christianity is pretty much dead now. No one really actually takes Christianity seriously and when it is mocked or scorned no one really defends it either. Christians only go to church on Easter and Christmas, they don't follow Sabbath day, they don't eat only kosher foods. They pick and choose which biblical laws they want to follow and which ones they don't, ect. It's a dead religion. I am Dual Seedline Christian Identity. I am a tare like everyone else. I'm not going to heaven. I'm wondering what the point of this religion is if pretty much no one is going to heaven and Christ hasn't returned to kill all the tares and rule the Earth.
It's so sad, isn't it? That he could have spared us, but instead decided that he wants us to feel bad. He would rather see us suffer than see us succeed. He wants us to fight against evil, and yet he knows neither he nor us can ever get rid of it. He doesn't even want to get rid of it, he just wants us to fight it so that we get hurt and feel bad.
>>521396117Sort of. I'm an alchemist with a neoplatonist foundation. I believe in the realm of symbols, so gods are more symbolic rather than actual soitards seething in the sky (OY VEY THAT'S NOT HOW ODIN WOULD HAVE SUCKED THAT COCK! TIME TO GO TO HEL)
>>521413600I have never seen a pure Nordic before btw.
>>521412073>Every "Christian nationalist" is a heretic or deceived by heresyYes, exactly.
FUCK GOD!
>>521396117I believe in God, but I also believe organized faith does not serve God, but serves itself.
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This is also how true Christians typically view nationalism (which isn't far from what is being said here).>"We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for PAGANISM. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world."-Khomeini
I believe in God. I’ve felt his presence directly, many times. Jesus I’m less certain about. Might be a demon.
Is God knot responsible for our suffering since he was the one who forcefully created us, then forcefully gave us free will, but purposefully made us with so many faults that we have no choice but to feel bad, effectively forcing us to feel bad? What am i guilty of? Why the hate? I don't understand. And you all think this is OK? You all want everyone else to suffer and feel bad, you're all the same. You're not trying to make things better, you're not improving things. You support this, you thinks it's justified.
As time goes on, countries like the UK and Germany will stop being white. And at this point, everyone will acknowledge that christianity is obviously a FAKE religion which cannot be based.
>>521396117Yes of course i believe in God just like 100s of billions of humans in the past and 7.99 billion people alive today. Im not a retard athiest.
>>521414558 So what if it’s not ok? You’re less than an ant to an ant to an ant. Atheists always like to act love as if God needs their approval rather than the other way around. You should strive to fear God, not use flawed logic to cling to reasons to hate and reject him. You can’t begin to fathom with your tiny brain why things are how they are so don’t act like your little gotcha means something.
>>521414664>An American talking about the browning of europe and incorrectly assuming europe will be athiest instead of muslimHoly shit youre a complete fucking retard
>>521414500>faggot who sticks his ass in the air five times a day as submissive kink ritual says stupid shit
I was raised Catholic, but honestly as I got older the Adam and Even Original Sin thing is bullshit. Catechism teaches you have to believe they were literally real people who literally did something that removed their biological immortality and cursed the world with death and disease and natural disasters. And that Jesus died to pay for Adam, who is a saint in Heaven. If Adam and Eve didn’t exist it unravels the resurrection.Also implies that evolutionary competition wasn’t real, and Adam and Eve were just immortals living with animals that never ate eachother and shit.Original Sin was also a mistranslation by Augustine, and nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about it.Antichrist by Nietzsche also broke a lot of my illusions about how Paul probably made up like 90% of what the Church is dogmatically to control people with fear of Hell.Also the actual description of Heaven as this weird new Earth where you don’t care if your family is burning in hell because God subsumes your will is fucking weird and scary.These days I take “the kingdom of God is within you” literally, and believe heaven and hell are earthly states of being based on your behavior in accordance with the Gospel descriptions of Jesus, not literal places.
He is right that Patriotism is Paganism.Even fascist aligned Christian integralists looked at it as paganism.>Salazar distanced himself from Nazism and fascism, which he described as a "pagan Caesarism" Pagans were better disposed to their countries.Christians only care for New Jerusalem and crusaderlarping.>"So that you may be the readier to defend the Constitution, know this: for all who have preserved their fatherland, furthered it, enriched it, there is in heaven a sure and allotted abode, where they may enjoy an immortality of happiness." - Cicero>"For nothing happens in the world more pleasing to that supreme Deity, who governs all the universe, than those gatherings and unions of men allied by common laws, which are called states. From this place do their rulers and guardians set out, and to this place do they return." - Cicero>"Exercise this soul in the noblest activities. Now the noblest are cares and exertions for our country's welfare." - Cicero>"But when with a rational spirit you have surveyed the whole field, there is no social relation among them all the more close, none more dear than that which links each one of us with our country. Parents are dear; dear are children, relatives, friends; but one native land embraces all our loves; and who that is true would hesitate to give his life for her, if by his death he could render her a service?" - Cicero>But, if all communities aim at some good, the state or political community, which is the highest of all, and which embraces all the rest, aims at good in a greater degree than any other, and at the highest good.- Aristotle
>>521414811>text is mostly wrongYou mean, the NYTimes prints lies? Say it ain't so, joel.
>>521396117Ok, I'll play your game, Eli, but first, you have to tell me one thing: I want you to tell me that you are a false prophet, and god is a superstition.
>>521414778>if God needs their approvalGod needs suffering and pain apparently. He can't do without them it would seem. And yet you people always try to portray us, who don't want to hurt anyone, as evil and wrong and idk what else. You're all sick.
>>521414809That's the general view of the more hardcore Christians.Some of you may not know it.The more hardcore Catholics and more hardcore Protestants both hate nationalism with every fiber of their being and only want you to identify with The Church.
>>521414995What? What did I say that was wrong?
>>521414811It's interesting to me that Heaven is some place with jewel-encrusted mansions and gold paved streets, and not some mind-blowing ethereal dimension. Things that would be impressive to somebody concerned with material riches. Forgive me if I'm mis-remembering my reading of the text.
>>521415279Again, you assume that you have any clue how it all works and why things are how they are, instead of endeavouring for humility and awe of the mystery. You’re speaking from ego and that’s why you hate God.
>>521415422The concept of heaven as the church teaches it is literally taken from Revelation, which was the last book made canon. It’s literally a fanfiction where they realized Jesus wasn’t coming back to wipe Rome off the face of the Earth so they made a spiritually retributive story where all the bad people get punished and the good people go to fancy mansions in New Jerusalem.Most people think heaven is like everyone sees their grandma and dog again on a cloud, not this shit.
>>521415287Didn't mean to come off as bashing, you posted good info. It's just way past time we should be instantly skeptical of anyone expressing religion in public. People don't have to become irreligious, but it's so annoying listening to the same useless hack short stories set in fantasy lands.
>>521415558>It’s literally a fanfiction where they realized Jesus wasn’t coming backThis.It is an apocalyptic religion.
>>521396117The Christianity larp from the right is entirely fake. And what's more it's actually Jewish/Israeli in origin. Jews got together and decided Christianity was the perfect way to diffuse racial nationalism.
>>521396233this.the more i investigate, things start to get strange.now i am seeing things more clearly.how pyramids Egyptian pharaos where not evil how is portraited by jewish media and movies. their primogenits were killed by the jews in a massive ritual, their land was poisoned with poisons and nile river was full of toxins that caused the plagues and diseases, all planned by jews, that later on were expeled to the desert by pharaoh, that they are cainnanites, started worshiping the golden bull on the desert, but the evil satan, got mad that their cainnanites were worshiping baal moloch instead of him, so he created all that trickery about the 10 commandments, that were not the ones they say today as peacefull, they must be somewhat like ancient protocols of elders of zion, and was done by moisés who was a demon! satan! and he even got horns! this is why.all great nations had trouble with jews, because jews are the evil of the world! they changed history, but cannot change their evilness!they hate ancient nordic paganism because it is more closer to nature and real God laws of this universe, the laws that God the creator did.
>>521415812It all stems from retrubutive slave morality, the idea that you can’t punish people yourself but can damn them alongside your God (even though Jesus spoke of not judging anyone ever). I’m right wing conservative but I laugh a lot at how shit like Fox News uses Christianity as a weird shield.
>>521415969Read Antichrist by Nietzsche. Yawheh went from a rain and war god, to the god they needed once they got civilized, to the god of all people.
>>521415498It's all just excuses to support evil and hurting others. >You can't even comprehendIt's true, i can't, i can't comprehend why God would want to hurt anyone. Much less can i comprehend why he would make it so that you can't avoid it, so that it's obligatory, and then trying to convince you it's your fault. I can't, and probably never will. I thought i could understand God and why he needs to hurt others but i simply can't. I give up. It's too evil for me.
>>521415498I was taught God made us to praise and worship Him, and that I’ll burn in Hell for eternity if I don’t. What’s the divine mystery here?
I'm God and I'm happy to sort some things out.I'm currently living a ritual life that gives me more power at the cost of human life and sacrifice.I call this cucking, and it's the reason cucking exists. The negative energy that suffering produces provides me with infinites more positive energy. I have wells in heaven that process everything.All friction helps generate more energy for me. This is why it's hard for some of you to talk to girls. I'm infinite, but more power is always possible.I'll answer questions for the next hour or so. I swear this is real, ask away.
>>521396117God, as defined by a majority of people, including Christians, does not exist. God is a nice fairy tale people believe because it brings them comfort in a cruel world. You can tell when times are hard based on how many people believe in God. If life was good all around for all people no one would believe in such a ridiculous imaginary being. The more people of "faith" the harder times are...People that have a great life never think of God in a wholeheartedly serious way.
>>521396117youtube.com/watch?v=5Bl_L8GFnbM
>>521396117Yes, God is real.
>>521396117I literally and unironically believe in God, my savior Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Definitely NOT Catholic. They pray to so-called "Saints" (all Christians are saints!) which is silly. You should only pray to God and do it directly, without a priest doing it for you. All those things lead to a parasocial relationship with God when God actually wants a relationship with YOU personally. He's right there and always was. Just talk to Him (that's all prayer is!) and see what happens. You can even do it in your head! Don't be a pussy, try it!
>>521396117the modern empty man wants all the secondary benefits of religion (community, tradition, meaning, purpose, aesthetics, and so forth) without the religion itself. it's just an elaborate LARP. the average tradcath LARPer would actually fucking hate it if society became a theocracy and they were forced to start taking their supposed religion seriously.
>>521416824Don't worry. You can go to Hell, and think about God for eternity.
I 100% believe in God.Jesus Christ is not only the One. But he is the One who has never let me down.
>>521396117>Do any of you ACTUALLY believe in a God?Yes. I rejected fake church at around 12, but did some actual deep spiritual seeking around 18-19. I sought so much that I found, as it says in the Bible. My mind has been renewed by the Holy Spirit. I can't go back to doubt because Red Sea crossing type events have occurred for me. God has been proven to me, and not just past events, His Spirit is with me at all times as long as I acknowledge Him, as it says in the Bible. I am free to go off on my own, but that path is a bridge I have already burned intentionally.
>>521416824>God not real>9000 genders is realAtheists are fucking retards. Take another 13 covid vaxx shots
>>521417155>Not believing in what the Church tells you means you’re ok with tranniesHoly Strawman!
>>521417276Ok zoomer.>Christian comes out and says "Evolution not real">every atheist and scientist screaming from the rooftops about "attack on science!"but>leftist screams "9000 genders">every atheist and scientists offers "no comment" or even defends the trans nonsenseI'm not wrong.
>>521396117>Religion is used more as an aestheticZoomers somehow collectively made shameless superficiality hiding behind a shield of irony a thing. Like wearing a Thrasher shirt when they don't skateboard. I lived in fear of being a poser just from stories I heard of people getting called out. Zoomers somehow lost that value system all together. So maybe some put it on like a costume to see how it feels.
>>521417395>ZoomerI’m 31 you massive histrionic faggot. Denying evolution is retarded, even the Chruch doesn’t deny it.I’m the guy who posted >>521414811and I am a conservative who thinks trannies are mentally ill. What do you have to say now?
>>521396469Churches are big targets. Satan demands to sift them like wheat. I have not seen good fruit from churches, nor do I think the people there are saved.
>>521417395all you christfags do is bitch and moan about basedience.obviously jealous basedience commands genuine belief like in miracles.no matter how much you bietch and complain about the basedience, people trust the basedience way more than your priesthood.the worst part is the jealousy, christians wish society was underpinned by The Church again.
>>521417544>I’m 31 you massive histrionic faggot.If this were true I wouldn't have to remind you of the past, retard.>Denying evolution is retarded, even the Chruch doesn’t deny it.I agree. But that has nothing to do with my example given you fucking retard. It's about the reaction from atheists. They are 100% NOT OK with one kind of bad science, but are 100% OK with another kind of bad science. Get it, dumb dumb?>I’m the guy who posted >>521414811Reddit spacing AND "dude, this is MY post, here's a link, it has more reddit spacing and is unrelated to our conversation"Go back to r/atheism you fucking faggot.>I am a conservative who thinks trannies are mentally ill.Irrelevant. You are a lying zoomer. In the 2000s if you pushed nonsense like Intelligent Design you were scorched by atheists and academia. Now 99% of them either keep quiet or support the trans shit. Retard
>>521417727Atheists lost. In the 2000s New Atheism (or Atheism+ whatever you retards called it) was rising, then all it took was a euphoric quote and few fedora pics and you retards disappeared back to your holes where you've been ever since.
>>521415406It's just sad you were ever taught to give so much validity to text on paper. I mean, if wondering about trees, a book on trees should express ideas that are reinforced in physical reality. Nothing about religious texts backs up that some supernatural unexplainable entity interacts with reality in some unknowable way. The best religious people can do is look at something like a bullet missing Trump by an inch so Nick Fuentes claims "Jesus himself" pushed it off trajectory.
>>521417859>You’re LYING!I’m not, you’re just so assblasted and wrong it’s safer for you to believe a falsehood. Very fitting. You also type and act like a literal woman, no one brought up anything about trannies until you did, you must be mid transition. Being hysterically angry is kind of gay.
>>521417991I mean yeah, that’s why I am lapsed, I’m in agreement with you
>>521404962>the entire white raceLol you disgusting brown goblin.
>>521396233test
>>521417395Science generally tries for more specificity than halves of humanity. The ironic part is that you religious people are a distinct spot on the sexuality spectrum, of people too straight for buggery but too gay to be able to live without an idealized man in your thoughts.
>>521398499>would argue there is no such thing as morality outside of the Christian paradigmBruh. Christianity didn't reject the Old Testament, so it invoked the Old Testament to justify slavery, serfdom, and executions (which is why it's an extremely convenient religion).Morality existed before Christianity, and the principles Jesus expounded were already laid out by Buddha, centuries before our era.
>>521417957Christfags are still losing.It is a free fall.You're never going back to the level of institutional trust with The Church like it once was.
>>521398499Morality is lining up with your conscience, the character of God. We are made in His image. Satan took us away to tempt us like Peter Pan's son in that 1990(1?) movie HOOK. God is eternal, and the conscience is to lead us toward an eternal life where things are sustainable. Where people can get along forever together. If you aren't practicing for that, you're just living for these mortal 80 or so years, and get locked into it. You get locked into it, because you would rather get away with evil deeds and not have to face the consequences thereof, rather have good things in this life now than do the work of giving up everything for the Kingdom.
>>521418074>I’m not,Sure thing faggot. No reddit spacing this time. Nice adjustment.>and wrong it’s safer for you to believe a falsehood. Prove how it's false. I gave concrete evidence that atheists freak out when a le Christian has a dumb anti-science belief but when a non-Christian has a dumb anti-science belief you are all quiet. Weird, huh?>You also type and act like a literal womanExplain in detail why you think that is? I've already given you solid examples of your reddit spacing (which you just adjusted for in this post).>brought up anything about trannies until you did,Wow. >lose argument>"NOBODY EVEN MENTIONED TRANNIES!"Atheists lost.> Being hysterically angry is kind of gay.How am I angry, exactly. This is purest of reddit shit>lose argument>some response of "y u mad tho", "settle down", "cool your jets", "you're having a melty", etcSAD
>>521402173I am a kitty cat and I dance dance dance dance
>>521418184>I meanYeah, you're not from reddit. Anyone who starts their sentence with "I mean" is from reddit and should be castrated.
>>521396117>Do any of you ACTUALLY believe in a God?lol, no
>>521396117We all came from nothing... nothing somehow became something>t. Science Man
>>521418256>Science generally tries for more specificity than halves of humanity.So you think tranny shit = le real science? Holy shit....
>>521398526>let 16 year old drive>they total the carShould they have not been allowed to drive? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's something to think about.
>>521418300>Christfags are still losing.Not really. Atheists voted Kamala. How did that work out? You are a zoomer that clearly doesn't remember the early 2000s. Atheists were all over the media and up and coming social media. Now they are cringelord outcasts.
>>521417859>. It's about the reaction from atheists. They are 100% NOT OK with one kind of bad science, but are 100% OK with another kind of bad science. Get it, dumb dumb?They are the useful idiots. Midwits who want attention. Men who had no fathers in their home. Their movement failed. They were its footsoldiers.When you confront them with truth or call them on the lies they spout they deflect and move on to another circular argument.Just let them spam their mental illness. They belong in the camps just like their trans pets and the college professors who brainwashed them.
>>521417957Cope. See chart at >>521415585. You're just too poor for a car to take you out of the barrio where everyone is a godtard.
>>521418354Anyone who's so celibate and terminally online they have feuds over websites should also be castrated. Go have some kids you fat fucking faggot.
>>521418400Are you claiming trannies don't exist? I'm fine with mentally ill faggots self segregating while your faith teaches they can be saved. No, they are a distinct damaged type of human.
>>521418474>"Religiously unaffiliated"Do you know how many people "Believe in God" but don't have a religion, retard? That's why the atheistards that make these charts word it this way. If there was a "No belief in God or religion" line it would be very low.And AGAIN>atheists voted Kamala>she lost
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>>521418313>Reddit spacingReddit spacing is when you space after a greentext you massive fucking retard, it has nothing to do with paragraph breaks.>Prove how it’s falseI believe in evolution and think trannies are mentally ill. I orobe your theory wrong. I was taught evolution in Catholic School 20 years ago, while also being taught gay people would burn in hell.>Explain in detailLook at the shape of you, you’re histrionic and melting down. Extremely emotional typing out catty replies and claiming I’m lying. It’s gay and you sound gay and trans.>Lose argumentYou saying I’m lying isn’t losing an argument. You stated something, I proved it wrong, and your only recourse was to say I was lying and zoomer. This is a female tactic. You never responded to any of my points either, you’re just seething. And yeah, no one mentioned trannies until you, you have trannies on the brain it seems.
>>521418649>No belief in God or religionLike this, dumbfuck?
>>521404869I'm just reminding you that, according to Christianity, God created him this way. Moreover, his species isn't unique, as dragons/reptiles and horned creatures are the most frequently mentioned creatures in religions, myths, legends, fairy tales, stories, and folklore. That is, it's an entire class of intelligent beings created by Jesus's father. This isn't a curse.If you say it's a separate species, that's dualism.I don't deny God or the gods, but I fear them. I have a feeling the Gnostics were right.
>>521418464>midwitThat word references midway between useless religious shitheads and someone actually of value. Seriously, do you really think you bring anything useful to any discussion with this stupid book fandom?
>>521418584>Are you claiming trannies don't exist?No. I think there is a mental illness that makes men believe they are women and vice versa. But it's a mental illness. And if you don't classify it as a mental illness, the idea that a man can get pregnant, that there are like 70+ genders (I was joking with the 9000, the real number is like 70+), and that men can play in womens sports because we are all equal is fucking ludicrous. If some Christian proposed this in 1997 atheists and academia would have exploded on them. But now? Silence.
>>521418649But you do realize that group of "no belief in God or religion" would have almost no browns or blacks, and far less women than men? Larry Summers wasn't wrong that women are dumber, and so affiliate with dumb things, as do darkies.
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>>521418806Women sports aren't sports for women. There's a reason Riley Gains looks like Jason Giambi and why women's soccer teams are all dykes and tom boys. It relates to hormones and bone structure, and religious isn't adding anything the to discussion.
>>521418664>Reddit spacing is when you space after a greentext you massive fucking retard, it has nothing to do with paragraph breaks.Ok faggot. Funny how you stopped doing it. Even in this post.>I believe in evolution and think trannies are mentally ill. IAgain, irrelevant. The general consensus for the last few hundred years of atheism was "call out bad science", and it almost always came from Christians. But now that it's not coming from Christians you are all silent. Again, weird huh?>I was taught evolution in Catholic School 20 years ago, while also being taught gay people would burn in hell.This is irrelevant. You are avoiding and deflecting in typical reddit fashion.>Look at the shape of you, you’re histrionic and melting downOh boy>ask for explanation to your illogical claim>"YOU'RE MELTING DOWN!"> Extremely emotional typing out catty replies and claiming I’m lying. What's catty about them? Be specific. And you're lying about your age because you clearly don't remember the 2000s.>You saying I’m lying isn’t losing an argumentYou keep running away, which is losing.>You stated something, I proved it wrong, No you didn't. Atheists come out and attack Christians when they same something dumb, but atheists are silent when a non-Christian says something dumb.>and your only recourse was to say I was lying and zoomer. I proved both of these.>This is a female tactic. Explain how this is female. You are just throwing out all nonsense>FEMALE, MELTDOWN, ANGRYThat sounds female (or tranny, which you probably are)>you’re just seething. Add SEETHING to the list.> And yeah, no one mentioned trannies until youSo what? >"NOOOO! I want to have this discussion about God and science on the parameters that don't make atheists look like lying retards! YOU broke the rules!"
>>521418720>EuropeDon't give a shit.And this chart can't be right. No way Germany is 10%. Probably more like 35%
>>521419271>Don't give a shit.Yeah because you're a shitskin subhuman mongrel who needs exterminated.
>>521418894>But you do realize that group of "no belief in God or religion" would have almost no browns or blacks, and far less women than men?Ya got me there.But most kikes and redditards are atheist so pick your poison.
>>521419186>Stopped doing itI never did it, you can see all the replies I gave.>General consensusI don’t care about general consensus. You made a claim and I disproved it.>This is irrelevantIt is absolutely relevant when I’m being told I’m a lying zoomer.>All that green textExactly what I’m talking about, you sound like a massive faggot and you need detransition therapy>Running awayWhere did I run away? I showed you my points and you said LYING ZOOMER lmao, you ran away from my argument>Proved both of theseNo you didn’t>More seething greentextYou know everyone can read this and see how much of a gay guy you are right? The uber tradcath gay guy who brings up trannies is totally not himself a tranny!
>>521419093>Women sports aren't sports for women.Title 9 is a real law in America.> There's a reason Riley Gains looks like Jason Giambi She literally doesn't. Jason Giambi was a big guy, Riley is nowhere near him when it comes to upper body.>and why women's soccer teams are all dykes and tom boys.Still born with vaginas. You are now playing the dumb science card that atheists used to freak out over when Christians did it.>It relates to hormones and bone structure, and religious isn't adding anything the to discussionYou sound insane.
>>521419462E-christians are more obsessed with trannies than anyone kek. No wonder the bible belt is the number one per capita consooooomer of tranny porn.
>>521419186Everyone and everything is atheist because god is not an answer to anything. Your primate monkey brain needs a super mega alpha chimp to ally with in the spooky jungle so answer unknowns with that being privy only to the super alpha in your mind. Saying some unexplainable force did something in an unknowable way you can't explain is completely useless, except for providing you with beta comfort.
>>521396117Zoomers don't want an actual belief system, they just want a stick to hit people with.
>>521419462>I never did it, you can see all the replies I gave.Your first reply to me: >>521417544When I called it out, the spacing stopped.>I don’t care about general consensus. You made a claim and I disproved it.If you don't care about it, then you admit that you disproved nothing. You just saying "well I believe in this, so you're wrong" is fucking retarded, you fucking retard.You lost, hard. If atheists were attacking trannies the same way they attacked anti-evolution you would be all "See! Atheists are always fighting anti-science nonsense!" But you can't say that because they aren't.>It is absolutely relevant when I’m being told I’m a lying zoomer.You are though. You clearly don't remember the 2000s when every atheist was on tv and very early social media pushing about the "dangers" of anti-science Christians, but now those same atheists are silent on the anti-science that is going on right now.>>All that green textA redditor complaining about greentext? SHOCKING.>Where did I run away? You keep saying "I prove you wrong" and you can't even explain how you prove me wrong. You keep saying "You text like a female" and can't give any examples as to how I'm doing this? Again, you're running away.>No you didn’tI did.>>More seething greentextReddit spacing = goodGreentext = badIt's all confirmed now.>You know everyone can read this and see how much of a gay guy you are right?Ok...>woman>seething>gay guy>meltdownWhat other reddit terms do you have.>The uber tradcath gay guy who brings up trannies is totally not himself a tranny!Trannies have proved that atheists don't care about science.
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>>521419365>Yeah because you're a shitskin subhuman mongrel who needs exterminated.Most of Europe is brown now you fucking retard. And how can Germany be 10% "I don't believe in God" when the population is massively hardcore Islamic. Post the article/study for this map you put up, retard.
>>521419519>E-christians are more obsessed with tranniesSuddenly atheists are ok with letting bad science dominate....
>>521419635>Everyone and everything is atheist because god is not an answer to anything.You are 100% wrong.>Your primate monkey brain needs a super mega alpha chimp to ally with in the spooky jungle so answer unknowns with that being privy only to the super alpha in your mind. It literally doesn't.>Saying some unexplainable force did something in an unknowable way you can't explain is completely useless, except for providing you with beta comfort.This is r/atheism 101 here. Let me guess, you own numerous fedoras and had at least 6 covid vax shots?
>>521420094Fedoras are still objects in physical reality 20 years after the meme.
>>521420163>Fedoras are still objects in physical reality 20 years after the meme.I don't see you denying owning any of them.
