>inb4 kotel cope
>>521406113without foreplay?you are a virgin aren't you?
>>521406208cringe
>>521406113They're bad at war, if it wasn't for their numerical advantage they'd have lost already.
>>521406113They're going to just leave it like this so chug niggers can keep cauldron posting
>>521406113Why rush in and lose troops when the kotel'ed kikes will eventually starve to death?
>>521406315this is the problem with you niggers.you end your wars prematurely leaving a country guessing.. was I at war? Is the war over?when we end the war a country is too broken to speak for decades to come.if you want a real answer on your typical incredibly stupid question than it is to lose as little men as possible.yes yes you uhg idiots believe in everything zlensky aka gold toiltet tells you.but you will have more and more stupid questions like that until you accept the truth.
>>521406891i explicitly said "inb4 kotel cope"
>>521406892what can't they just take it though?
>>521407033oh you are an idiot.ok whatever not wasting my time on you
>>521406892>if you want a real answer on your typical incredibly stupid question than it is to lose as little men as possible.Weird, I thought bakhmut went well for you guys?
>>521407076You can't answer and it is weird.
>>521406959You sound like a newbie that has been checked in chess and you are bragging the crowd that your oppenent wont just finish and therefore you are winning by not losing at that very moment.. Its worse than cringe. Its delusion. Like a tranny looking HIMself in the mirror everyday and thinking HE is a woman.. >Oy vey I am winning because they wont attack oy vey! I bet you vote Democrat and have had at least 2 vaxxie jabs..
>>521407099it did.but attacking a fortified position with enemy waiting for you is not better than starving and bombing them to death.
>>521406891Is that what happened in Pokrovsk?
>>521406892Stop trying to help westoids
>>521407173OK so answer your own question then:>Why rush in and lose troops when the kotel'ed kikes will eventually starve to death?Why is Russia doing that instead of what you suggest?
>>521406315Btfod
>>521407206>>521407099especially since they have nowhere to go and hardly anywhere to hide since we control pokrovsk and mirnograd
>>521406892>when we end the war a country is too broken to speak for decades to come.Are you talking about Russia kek.
>>521406113cant believe ukrainians are falling for it AGAIN>russian encircle town>they leave it open so retards keep coming into the killbox>they grind tens of thousands of hohols>eventually hohol reinforcements stop>close the bag>remaining retards surrender, starve to death or get droned>repeat same exact thing next town
>>521407206Then why didn't you do that in bakhmut>it did.oh it went well? explain him
>>521407387I love the part where slavniggers crop the map as to not show the parts they lost just north of there.
>>521406315It's because he didn't mention nigger cock once, isn't it?
>>521406416Russia was actually at a numerical disadvantage up until 2024 Even now it’s pretty much 1:1
>>521407387When exactly did this ever happen? Or is this the Sudzhe cope?
>>521407564>1:1including the north koreans?
>>521406892>when we end the war a country is too broken to speak for decades to comeYou mean, your country? Damn Ivan, years of fighting, tens of thousands dead and you can't take a flat field and a pile of rabble. When this war is over, russia will be left so buckbroken, your people will invent new countries to escape being called russians
>>521407099Russia literally bled the UAF dry and foiled the 2023 counter offensive at the expense of 20k dead prisoners Bakhmut was a slam dunk
>>521407642Remember when Russia fought two wars against Muslims living in their own country and now they are erecting mosques in all of their cities?
>>521407544That salient was literally a distraction to keep the Ukrainians from reinforcing PokrovskEven Euromaidan PR alluded to this
>>52140763112,000 NKs is a drop in the bucket that is Russia’s 600k+ force in Ukraine
>>521407240the Pokrovsk piggers fled to the Eastern city of Myrnohrad, which is what's shown in OP's pic. Both cities are next to each other and both are surrounded.
>>521407443he got greedy and wanted more power.he wanted to replace shoigu and get into politics.unlike you we know history well enough.he thought he is a ceasar about to cross rubicon. Or Sula taking his legion against defenseless rome.
>>521407387>tfw the next town is Pokrovskeliterally almost a repeat in name as well
>>521407654>bakhmut was a slam dunk>has a coup attemptcope lmao>foiled the counter offensiverussia lost most of its gains so i wouldn't say ukraines counter offensives were foiled LMAO>>521407715>look at muh kotol>muh kotol was a hoax>until next time>>521407768according to russias numbers (which are entirely made up most of the time)>>521407778>he got greedyhad nothing to do with them getting absolutely smashed at bakhmut na?
>>521407713Russia had almost double the mosques in 1910 than it does now Russia has always had a huge Muslim population Unlike Londinstan which had no native online population and now is heavily populated
>>521407642>>521407355you know nothing about our wars but old bits from nazi propaganda do you?it is ok I understand that your education is kinda lacking.
>>521406113Why would you take it when the retards from ukraine keep wasting thousands ds of men on it?Ukraine is beyond saving at this point.
>>521407654In what way was the 2023 counter offensive foiled? It took more land than Russia has for this entire war (unless you want to count the "2022 feint"). Bakhmut cost Russia 80k casualties for a pile of rubble, and even today Stinky Status = Safe, a village that is about 16km away from Bakhmut. Look man, I get that you feel cool for "rooting for the bad guys" but the Russians are not what you remember from playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare JFL
>>521407881cope slavnigger look at all the muzzies in mosqow
>>521407875if they were smashed how were they able to go on Moscow in good order?the people themselves had no idea what they are doing they just followed orders.and it ended as soon as the truth came out.most just left him.
>>521407963same gif over and over again?lmao.
>>521407976you can lost 90k people and still have 10k left to turn around and scare the shit out of putler dipshit.>>521408024Oh you don't like seeing the muzzies in mosqow?
>>521406892Kek well said russiabro.
>>521408077lose*
>>521407940>It took more land than Russia has for this entire warlmao.I guess I should not be angry with nafo niggers.they just misinformed and stupid enough to check their own horseshit.
>>521407099Who has controlled Bakhmut the last year retard?
>>521408024Is the gif suddenly fake because it has been posted too many times? Maybe if you post black cocks too many times, they stop being black
>>521408121dont worry we still got the maps dipshit aidsnigger.
>>521406113Putin has been trying to minimize civilian casualties from day one. The only reason it's taking as long as it has is they started arming their civilians to the teeth and putting military in civilian housing, much like Hamas Terrorist.
>>521407544have the challengers and storm shadows turned things around for Ukraine yet?
>>521407544>faked out again>here's how that's good for ukraineKek shills from the UK are the dumbest shills for ukraine.
>>521407776Source? I thought Russia killed every last Ukrainian in Pokrovsk? Are you now saying that the Russians were lying and that they let the Ukrainians leave unharmed?
>>521406113>Why can't they just take it?There are people actively trying to stop them from taking it. It's not that easy to just take something if people constantly get in your way.
>>521407320>since we control pokrovsk and mirnogradwhy don't you then?>>521407561no but you just did
>>521408077absolutely smashed means unable to operate.this happens all the time when you lie about everything.You start to contradict yourself.I just do not understand how posting same meme out of context making a point you are trying to make.I guess it is like in the sayingYou can hear it a hundred times, measure it seven times, and only see it once to believe it.(in russian it rimes so it sounds better)
>>521406113Russia will take the southern half within the next two weeks and then squeeze out the Ukraine forces back into the land. Same repositioning efforts as every time after that, and also of course the obligatory> it wasn't strategically relevant anyhowand then the same shit goes on for what seems an eternity, polluting the great soil of this nation.It's all so retarded.
>>521408159>bakhmutdoesn't exist anymore it's a pile of rubble dumb nigger lmaooooooooo>>521408188>challengerwe sent 14 and 4 years into the war russia got 2 so pretty well i'd say>storm shadowhows the chemical plant doing?>>521408249>muh kotol>no longer kotol because we didn't need itlmaoooooooo cope and rope slavshitter>>521408382>absolutely smashed means unable to operate.remind me of the gains around bakhmut since then? Oh nothing? Gotcha. Smashed.
>>521408160if we collected all our muslims for once in one place and you use it to say that this is how it is at all times then yes it is kinda a lie.if it is the way you say it is you should have way more than one (1) gif to prove your point.
>>521408486any gains for ukraine?do not be shy tell us everything.
>>521408486>bbb..b.b..about it doesnt exist!!!Clearly youre the nigger here.
>>521408310The ones that tried to flee were killed by drones so the rest fled to Myrnohrad where they're getting FABed on or taken prisoner. The Hohol army to the North is trying to break them out but is getting equally fucked in the process.
>>521408325But according to Russia, the Ukrainians want to be under Russian occupation, and it's just evil jewish nazi tranny Zelensky that is personally opposing the entire Russian military with his ragtag band of tranny NAFO mercenaries.
>>521408600see map>>521408179>>521408603>we own the rubble nowwell done how many men did it cost you? Funny it's gone from take over the country to maybe we can squeeze out a few minor cities in donetsk lmaoooooooooo
>>521408715oh here we go.it is not strategically important copelmao so cringe.
>>521408550Is the existence of Dagestan in doubt? My country, nor any part of the west, has anything even close to this legally-protected semi-autonomous Muslim caliphate in its borders.
I wish the ruskies focused a huge artillery barrage on the pocket and then posted it in HD on the internet. Now it's the time to show that the good ole arty is still way more effective than a flying toy.
>>521408486>we sent 14why so stingy? it cant be that you have 200 functional tanks and still consider yourself a military power...>remind me of the gains around bakhmut since thenchasiv yarremind me of the ukrainian gains in the same time span
>>521408765Was Hostomel airport strategic to russia?
>xaxaxaxa, we're going to take it in two days!>365 days later>WE'VE ENCIRCLED 1000 XOXOLS, XAXAXA, ANOTHER VICTORY FOR PUCCIA>30 days later>well, we never wanted to take it, actually we prefer not to take it, not encircling 10000 xoxols is actually smart way
>>521408774we are the most diverse country on earth.and yet we are 80% white (russian)we do this by keeping our minorities to themselves. Just like dagestan.Also those people lived on that land 5 times longer than your country existed.
>>521407768Don't confuse him with numbers. He's British.
>>521408885>and yet we are 80% white (russian)>Russian>white
>>521406892Why cant you just take it?
>>521408834>remind me of the gainsthey literally invaded russia and held land for 8 months in Kursk and had putin sending his cheif chef to beg north koreans for help lmao. Also they've gained over a million slavniggers limbs and lives.
>>521408715Seems their losses peaked in 2024 yet they're making way more gains this year.
>>521408885>whiteis that what all your friends at the /pol/ meetup think?
>>521408844what is the point of this question?are you trying not to sound pathetic.it does not work.I really like how you people are celebrating your defeat saying shit like:"oh it took you sooo long""haha we never wanted it anyway""oh but what about something else just do not talk about our defeat."let me remind you that it is not Russian soldiers who got encircled and ambushed at our defensive position and are about to be killed or captured.it is your beloved ukrainians who are in this very position.and no amount of coping or lying would change that.
>>521408885>we are the most diverse>but only 20% diverseI can't tell if you are proud of diversity or not.>Chechens have lived on the land for a long time, so they should not be disturbedAnd would you like to tell me when the Kievan Rus first arrived on their land?
>>521408697Source? That schizo on 4chan again?
>>521406113It's a work in progress. These things take time. Will be done within 2 weeks.
>>521409080>>521408948lmao sure whatever.we are better than you in every way imaginable so yes lets call it something else.We are still 80% russian while your percentage is way smaller than that without a good explanation.
>>521409098>let me remind you that it is not Russian soldiers who got encircled and ambushed at our defensive position and are about to be killed or captured.So what happened in Kherson when you were getting btfo'd by Ukranian artillery so much so that you had to retreat across the river and putin shit on the commander who ordered it lmaoooo
>>521406892I'm rootin' for Putin!!!!
>>521406315yes - and no.cringe - yes. general meaning - no (i understand)why would they take it. they can starve them out, they can bomb them with drones, with FABs, with, rocket artillery, conventional "flower" propelling systems.its basically a bukake on a brigade level and russians are stuffing it in and are not letting ukraine-chan breathing at all
>>521406113Why do you worry?
>>521409214>we're white that makes us better>can't defeat out neighbor btwWe defeated shitters across the globe at our peak. You've never peaked and never will.
>>521407387It's called NATO doctrine with only 75% death rate.
>>521409029does ukraine still hold that land?or did they send their guys on attack so they could die while fighting a war of attrition?
>>521409130it was Russian Empire who took over caucasus.the story is kinda fascinating btwkievan rus was not a thing after mongols and that happened in 1800shttps://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C
>>521409038>Seems their losses peaked in 2024dead take from 6-12 months to made public, losses peeked in 2024 because in mid 2026 we will know how many tends of thousands died in 2025
>>521409224have nothing to reply on that huh?>but what aboutlmao a pathetic pajeet.
>>521409342>does ukraine still hold that land?no, but Ukraine does hold Kherson city which was annexed if I remember correctly, so technically Ukraine is still invading russia :)
>>521406416This. They have never been good at it. Russia fucking up against a weaker foe is the most normal thing about the modern world. Too much asian influence.
>>521409224so what happened 4 years ago is your victory to bring upno victories since?
>>521409458>but what aboutismssays you lmaooooooooooo
>>521409368same shit in englishhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil
>>521409519you are the only ones who does it since the day one.and you today is a great example.
>>521409510I'd say killing and wounding over a million aids ziggers is a worth while celebration for years to come.
>>521409368>the Kievan Rus came AFTER the Russian empireThat is absolutely rich. You have access to all human knowledge and instead you just have to make shit up to cope with the hard truth that this is called a brother war because y'all are literally descended from the same stock.
>>521406113Because most Russian soldiers get blown up before they can reach the enemies positions.
>>521409585You can always turn around and leave
>>521409697I never said this.I said that kievan rus did not exist after mongols.
>has nothing to say, gets btfo'd>starts posting goreclockwork, pottery etc etc
>>521407387>they leave it open so retards keep coming into the killboxgood description, one problem, people coming into killbox are Russians, pic related
>>521409725I am still waiting for a reply on this>>521409098
>>521406113>inb4 kotel copewhat did xe mean by this
>>521409807>asks me a question about strategic importance>can't answer a question about strategic importance>why are you like thisclassic example of why russians are literally fucking retarded.>>521409767Don't worry i see you little slavnigger
>>521406113>>inb4 kotel cope
>>521409924>picrel>>521409787webmrel xister
>>521406892>if you want a real answer on your typical incredibly stupid question than it is to lose as little men as possible.Now this is cope.
>>521409787The road to Pokrovsk is a dangerous one.
>>521409098>let me remind you that it is not Russian soldiers who got encircled and ambushed at our defensive position and are about to be killed or captured.One might wonder how Russia manages to have 50 times higher death rate than Chechnya or Afghanistan while having nothing but "victories" on paper
>>521406113We don't know what's happening because we're not literally the actual generals on the ground. There are a million possible explanations for any small scale move.What do you do in an RTS when you know for a long time you won't have the tech advantage but will have the factory output and manpower advantage?If the capture point gives economic output for the enemy but capturing it doesn't give the same for you then you can for example use it to bait units with a range advantage into an enclosed kill box where their advantage is gone.Maybe it's the opposite, Ukraine is baiting the larger enemy into a trapped area.
>>521410027not for nato wunderwaffels
>>521409615and how many ukrainians died for that to happen?how much money did UK waste donating to a corrupt government?
>>521406208>>521406892Very based worldviewUHG fags are too dumb to understand that the russians prefer to fight the insurgents in uniform on the battlefield rather than assymetrically over a decade or more.Russia is frontloading casualties in jewkraine. In 15 years they will not still be killing young men anywhere near kEEEIEIV
>>521410027indeed, which is why there's literal piles of Russian corpses around the city
>>521410193>how much money did UK waste donating to a corrupt government?pic rel, go be a jeet aids slavnigger chinkoid somewhere else (we use your frozen funds btw lmaoooooo)
>>521410193too fucking much, that's partly why our taxes are about to go through the fucking roof next week.
>>521410191glad someone made a webm of this, it's pretty shocking.
>>521410193Zero ukrainians died in this civil war.They were all russian all along.
>>521408697>and it's just evil jewish nazi trannywell
>>521410268How do you people even come up with such nonsensical copes? Fighting an insurgency is way easier than fighting a protracted war in a peer or near peer conflict. You can inflict as many casualties as you want on a population once you've occupied them.
>>521410039because they're fighting a nato armed/trained/funded army?>>521410295I'm not going anywhere, unlike you when your government forces your isp to block 4chan
>>521406113You're dumb as fuck, nigger. Kill yourself.
>>521407940>In what way was the 2023 counter offensive foiled? It took more land than Russia has for this entire warRussia actually gained territory during Ukraine's copefensive, retard.>"rooting for the bad guys"How are Russians the bad guys? The bad guys are obviously Zelenskike, his corrupt oligarchs, and the CIA/US State Department that started this whole mess. Do you even know what was going on in Ukraine before 2022?>>521408179That maps is retarded, and you should kys.
>>521410022coping is for someone who is losing.so this would be your doing>>521410039it is simple - everything is possible in your imagination.>>521409697I figured a simple way to explain it to you:They do not live in Russia.They live on their ancestral land that is now located in Russia.if you see it just like immigration crisis that you have then it is a wrong view.
>>521410295MI6 pajeets seething.
>>521410295jesus christ, I was about to ask why you're defending the side that is actively ruining your country (unless you're some brown mongrel subhuman) and there you go deflecting. This is amazing lol. You really are either some paki/jeet whatever, there's no difference, or a glowie. The other option is a boomer, but that's even worse if I'm being honest.
>>521409745You said the Kievan Rus was a thing in the 1800's. Was the Russian Empire forged after the 1800's? If so, that means it would be younger than the USA.
>>521410598Imagine being British.
>>521408697>and it's just evil jewish nazi tranny
>>521410455>it's pretty shocking.you can turn your vpn off slavnigger, notice how they're arent burning and no dead bodies around it. It worked lmaooooooo>>521410529>I'm not going anywherelook at this dude thinking hes winning by being able to stay here lmaoooooooooooooooooo>>521410580Who let Israel in?>>521410598>you're a paki>you're a jeet>you're mi6>you're a boomerlook at this slavnigger shadowboxing everyone hes scared of lmaooooooooooo
>>521410455>it's pretty shockingunless you saw state of Russian roads, when you've seen 100+ destroyed vehicles on small 1km strip of road, then losses less than few dozen stop being shocking
>>521410648I never said it.
>>521410712Go back to @ukr_pics, you pathetic pajeet
>>521410745
On a scale of Thermopylae to Bastogne, how comfy is it in Myrnohrad right now?
>>521410522That really worked well for us in Iraq and Afghanistan, didnt it?Baghram is a great resource and our friends in afghanistan support our use of it to this day.Fucking retard.
>>521410781Nice selfie, jeet.
>>521410547>tripfag thinks he is going to get a responseI remember you, and you remain as Russian cock-hungry as before.
>>521408697Depends on the part of Ukraine we're talking about. Eastern Ukrainians, yes. Western, no. Even Ukrainians admit as much.https://youtu.be/LKAt56zW0-g?t=741
>>521410823
>>521410741>>521409368>kievan rus was not a thing after mongols and that happened in 1800sThe Russian lies with every breath
>>521410578>coping is for someone who is losing.You are losing hundreds of men every single day. My country isn't even involved.>>521410817>That really worked well for us in Iraq and Afghanistan, didnt it?Better than this war is going for Russia, that's for sure.
>>521410712are you at least getting paid for it?>shadowboxingyou were the first one to accuse me of being a zigger, stop projecting over and over again, you're making it too obvious. I can safely point that out, your ilk doesn't learn regardless.
>>521410917What branch of the military are you in?
>>521406892> if you want a real answer on your typical incredibly stupid question than it is to lose as little men as possible.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH HAHAHAHAHA OH NO THE RUSSHIT ACTUALLY BELIEVES THE CHAIN OF COMMAND CARES ABOUT MOBIK LIVES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>521410712>nigger!>Paki!>VPNfag!>Brown cunt!The guilty dog barks the loudest. Bet you're all of the above.
>>521410917oh I see you misunderstood me.taking over caucasus happened in 1800skievan rus was not a thing after mongols.where is the contradiction exactly?also I wrote>I figured a simple way to explain it to you:>They do not live in Russia.>They live on their ancestral land that is now located in Russia.to answer your stupid questionI guess you are not after the truth you just a uhg spammer.why do you do it exactly?
>>521410957>the only person that could possibly disagree with me must be working for U.S. naval intelligence
>>521410931Oh really?All the money we poured into bases in afghanistan were a good investment?!? All the fucking armor and weapons we brought over there are pointed at our geopolitical enemies??!??All our airfields, bases, logistics investment, and strategic planning were a good use of money!!???Fucking MORON.
>>521411042Oh, so it's Naval intelligence?Hahahaha, wow. Thanks for the inadvertently admiting it, you worthless Eglin nigger faggot. Kys.
>>521410931>>521410989and you make those claims based on what exactly?on the news from the side we are fighting?the side that is always caught on lies?suuuuuurrrreeee nice source bro
>>521410831>I remember you, and you remain as Russian cock-hungry as before.I'm not even pro-Russian, retard. But the only people who pro-Ukraine are either people who have no fucking idea what is going on, or people who see Ukrainians as a means to an end.Basically, no one hates Ukrainians more than their so-called supporters. For that matter, no one hates Ukrainians more than their leaders. It's truly a sad state of affairs.
>>521411032Alright, so you're denying the importance of ancestry from the Kievan Rus, and suggesting that the Chechens deserve to be respected because they live on land that Russia has conquered but was not always a part of Russia... how does this not apply to Ukraine as well?
>>521411001Post your hand then slavnigger, lets see the aids in your veins.>>521410943>y-y-you're projecting>your ilk doesn't learn regardlessweird so far in this war russia doesn't seem to have learned a lot.
>>521410931>My country isn't even involved.except your economy is declining because Nordstrom 2 got blown upso your poorer economically, and then wasting your remaining money on ukraine
>>521411121That pathetic subhuman just admitted to being a glownigger in the military.
>>521409314Yeah like that time you and France teamed up with Turkey to keep Constantinople in Turkish hands because fuck you that's why.No other country is more at blame for the world today and a lack of United Europe as your country Nigel.
>>521411097>hurr durr you're in the Navy but you're stationed in the middle of Florida on an Air Force Base instead of Virginia with all of the other IWC glowies
>>521406113Ziggers are retards that don’t value their own lives the best they can do is get bogged down in attrition war for a year in a half in that insignificant sector while spending hundreds of thousands of lives on it. Apparently they lost something like 95k people just on Pokrovsk. They are incompetent retards only good for dying
>>521411131kievan rus is not original rus.you would know that if you knew our history.also why do you do this exactly?what is the motivation to lie and defend ukraine for an american flag?
>>521411193Keep outing yourself for free, retard
>>521411179Don't hate the playa hate the game.
>>521411139You're a brownoid jeet from a pro-Ukriane Telegram channel
>>521411220Ahh, so the Kievan Rus are not Russian, just as Chechens are not Russians. Would you then agree that a foreign people under Russian rule should be respected just as you think the Chechens should be?
>>521411253>Posts @ukr_pics meme
>>521411246Doing what? I have no idea what you're talking about. Now keep paying your taxes like a good bitch boy civilian
>>521411194>spending hundreds of thousands of livesHow do you deal with your immigrants and criminals? Your dependence on globalism?
>>521411299what? how do you draw those conclusions?lmao this is gets more and more stupid with each cycle :D
>>521411288All i see is /chuggers/ (this brownest of them all)>>521411348look at this nufag lmaooooooooooo
>>521411360>Now keep paying your taxes like a good bitch boy civilianWhoa, what an uppity glowie
>>521406113Without losing 40000 more soldiers? Its not victory in russian eyes without excesive death of their menFortunately hohola will deliver lots of dead russian and that's how they slowly pay for Wołyń
>>521411452So do the Chechens deserve to be mistreated? Tell me more about how you think non-Russians should be treated under Russian rule.
>>521406113because they control the field in an insurmountable manner and as long as the cockholes send meat it's a net benefit for russians.they want the cockholes to keep fighting and dying in a field they control instead of packing up and living to fight on better terms.
>>521411360Nigger.>>521411220Its not a war, its a police operation.Russians using weapons supplied by NATO to kill other russians.Gotta neutralize all potential insurgents before the land can be safely reintegrated into the federation with full citizenship fir those who live there.
>>521411299>>521411452you said about ancestery.I said that there were no ancestry because kievan rus was one of 3 kingdoms of slavs at that time in that region.it separated itself briefly and then was returned back.if you want to talk about it it would be good for you to know something about it.otherwise it is just retarded
>>521411502sure thing president jackson
>>521411113The extreme abundance of webms showing ziggers dying in any assaults. Sure the Mad Max motorbike tactic has a merit…if you don’t care about the losses.I don’t have any .webm atm because I’m phoneposting but just give /uhg/ one visit lmao>suuuuuurrrreeee>nice source broThis is clearly making you mad
>>521411472How long until Nigel Farage deports your ass back to Mumbai, Ranjeesh?
>>521411587Should Russia do the same bad things that the US did?
>>521411131kievan rus was the 3rd stage of "rus" after ladoga and novgorod.
is nobody sick of nafo /k/ike shilling yet? no matter what happens they will keep spamming how it is victory for ukraine, why do people even engage in these discussions
>>521411573yes, this is why it is called smo.we never went full in and we try to avoid casualties on both sides as much as possible.while ukrain screams about war and went all in
>>521411594>nigel farageyou know he is in no position of power right?lmaoooooooooo
>>521411593>J-j-just visit /uhg/
>>521407883We fought you only once during the Crimean War, and you lost.You also lost Russo-Japanese warYou somehow lost WW1 even though you were allied with countries who won.You fucked off from Afghanistan, you lost the first Chechen War, and you had to start it for the 2nd time.Your only real recent victory is WW2, and yet you somehow lost 2x more soldiers than Germany you defeated.
>>521411439We put them to work for our rich corporate masters to exploit their cheap labor. I don’t prefer it that way but it’s more humane then go change this field and get splattered by drones comrade
>>521411593how many do you have exactly?because you always post the same ones over and over again.it can't be more than a 100english is not my first language.shit it is not even the second one.
>>521411761And how does this invalidate what was said?
>>521411818Do they teach how to read polls in jeet schools?
>>521406208Lol you aren't able to take it. Stop being such a cringe little 14 year old Gaylord. This is not a movie you dumb retarded little Mongolian kid.
>>521411765Is NAFO/k/ in the room with us right now?
>>521411862oh some more cope and propaganda.sure whatever.yet we are still mostly in tact and you are a tiny island of buthurt pirate offsprings :D
>>521411884Care to show us how well he is polling for position of PM? lmaooooooooooooooo
>>521411932Yeah. Any questions?
>>521411932yeah they usually post low res shitty pictures that add 0 meaning to discussion
>>521406892Enjoy being China's subject for the next century. Putin cemented it into existence.
>>521411096>Oh really?Yeah, the men and equipment lost during the war on terror are a tiny fraction of what Russia has lost and will continue to lose. If I had to choose between being someone fighting the war on terror or someone fighting in this war I'd choose the former, no question about it.>>521411113>and you make those claims based on what exactly?Extrapolation based on war memorials, a lot of them are in the 100k-300k range. And that's also where other people using different methodologies put their numbers so it's probably somewhere in that ballpark which leaves us with at least a few dozen killed each day and probably many times more wounded. >>521411161>except your economy is decliningGood.
>>521411885and yet we take more and more with each day.
>>521411786If the NAFO shills are any good at their job they understand the logic in this, so their task is to obfuscate the objective and muddle understanding of russian motivations here in the west, in order to ensure more resources are dumped on the doomed insurgents to maximize russian deaths. They know both sides are russian, so dead hohols is just as good as dead chechens or dead moskow kids.
>>521411883how does being proven wrong on your premise invalidate your argument you ask?
>>521411862>We fought you only once during the Crimean War, and you lost.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War>Your only real recent victory is WW2most recent UK victory is Falklands?
>>521412032oh surechina copewe are not your subject and that is a good start.The future is not certain for any side. So leave it be.
>>521411786You could have avoided all casualties by just not invading an independent nation
>>521412088What did you prove wrong?
>>521411593Post one
>>521412050Yeah lets ignore the fact that our debt balooned, we have kept 0 geostrategic bases, and our internation standing is even WORSE than when we started.Every death in the war of terror was a loss for america because nothing of importance was accomplished.Russa may succeed, meaning the numerically higher cost had a purpose, unlike dick chenys bombing campaign for isntreal.But you know this kike.
>>521411976>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_electionKnock yourself out, jeet
>>521412080this is the thing that kinda confuses me though.they are russians by blood, history and language (ukranian is a dialect of Russian and before 2014 nobody talked on it)but by all other aspects they were loyal westerners happy to do anything including dying for western values or for a chance to be accepted by the west.and yet this is how west treats them.This is what blackpiled many people in Russia and in CIS.those deaths are tragic but they made people finally to wake the fuck up.
>>521411874>it can't be more than a 100Oh no sweet child you must be new here.>>521411828This is just today and took me 2 min to find in /uhg/>english is not my first language.sosi moj huj petukh, pochemy ty nje v spetsoperatsii vmeste s tvojimi druzjami?
>>521412119>an independent nationlmao.by that definition we never did.
>>521412364>>521412282
>>521412364so can you give me the exact number?
>>521411866What you prefer is not relevant. What are the long term results of the two strategies? Note that the losses on both sides combined don't come close to the immigration numbers of either Russia or the US.Seems to me you grow weaker every day. Russia is hardened every day, it becomes more economically self sufficient with a growing war industry actively responding to the demands of war instead of corrupt corporate committees. They're mass producing veterans while you're mass producing dependents relying on foreign imports made cheap by the military strength you now need those cheap imports to maintain.
>>521412426Oh, so it's a conspiracy then
>>521406113
>>521412361The west has corporations being gutted and looted for 51% of the shareholders to walk away richer. The planning isnt decades forward, its quarterly.Line goes up.
>>521412469>can you give me proofs to exact numbers of how many Russians have been killed?We’re back to 2014 memesNever change rashaprasha
>>521412509I like how you nafo niggers jump from > we know the truthto > oh we are so naive how did this even happen> are you telling me it was going on for 8 years before no fucking waywhy do you people always try to deceive?if we are as bad as your trying to make us why don't you state the truth and always have to lie one way or another?
>>521412294>we have kept 0 geostrategic basesYou still have bases in Iraq and now even in Syria.>because nothing of importance was accomplished.>Russa may succeed,This war is not going to benefit the average Russian in any way either.
>>521412307funny coming from a mutt about opinion polls didn't yours say trump would lose? Also have a look at the number of seats labour has lmaooooooooo also 4 more years until the next election will russia hold out that long lmaooooooooo
>>521412509totally
>>521408159>That much wineDon't this fatass pedophile know you can just place the bottle on the table and pour yourself a refill, i steady of some atrocious 18 oz pour?If youre going to be a wine snob, at least follow etiquette
>>521412494This is a lot of zigger cope. Millions of dead ziggers is a pretty shit strategy you are losing you can’t look strong in this situation retard. Bleed me an ocean
>>521412683Can you tell us why Lukoil russias second largest oil company and the largest private company is going under? lmaooooooooooooooooooo
>>521412665I am not asking for proofs.you said that you know about our casualties because of the amount of videos you have or have seen.I then asked you how many do you have or have seen exactly?and here you admit that you have no idea.so back to original point - your logic here is faulty.you can't be sure how many causlties our or their side has.
>>521406113>RUSSIA IS WINNING TOO SLOWLYkek
>>521412953>Millions of dead ziggersDelusional copeNo mention pf the 8+ million Ukrainians who went to Russia due to this conflict
>>521406113The west are supplying pigs and the ziggers are making pork-chops.Is there a problem?
>>521412568I heard something interesting today here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Cji9cI144it is a guy who was popular in 90s and then got redpiled and started an honest life.I kinda enjoy some of his content.He said on his own example in that video that corruption was not something that was in soviet union. Small things for individuals here and there sure but not on government level.it came to Russia and post soviet territories with capitlalism as a form of colonisation.it is incredibly ironic because ukraine started all of this to get rid of corruption (golden toilet scandal led to maidan)I believe it is a big part of the way capitalism and west works.I am not a commie or something.just an observation.
>>521412699>This war is not going to benefit the average Russian in any way either.It already has. The average Russian is now relatively secure against global supply shortages like are inevitable at some point. They're more likely to have a job doing something with a direct impact to their immediate community like growing potatoes which means they develop real life skills applicable to survival instead of degrees in gender relations. Birth rates are up considerably, from around 1.41 to 1.83, reversing the trend.
>>521411977>>521411988Actually rent free obsession and I don’t even associate with those faggots.I’m just a firm supporter of TOTAL RUSSIAN DEMILITARIZATION something they(Russia) is doing an excellent job at.
>>521406208rektum
>>521413227>8+ million Ukrainians who went to Russia due to this conflictNever happened but the ziggers did steal Ukrainian children give back the babies you stole you evil monster
>>521412699So Iraqs invasion and destruction, justified by the possession of chemical weapons supplied by usa by the us-allied dictator(against Iran) was successful?For whom?ISIS?Al Quada?Saudi Arabia?(you)?
>>521412961>misinterpreting the whole argument>moving the goalpostmy attack was at your delusional idea that Russia is trying to preserve the lives of their own soldiers(or anyone for that matter). Do you really think that doing 21st century’s version of cavalry attacks in the age of precision munitions and drones is "valuing their soldiers lives"?
>>521413297ayyy slavnigger why is LUKOIL russias second LARGEST oil company getting fucked by sanctions?
>>521413514>Never happenedNAFO tranny cope on full display lmaoThe population of Russian controlled Donbass alone is 4+ million lol
>>521413297USA has a special word for the political bribery industry.>lobbyingThat should tell you everything you need to know.
>>521413602>Russian economy will collapse in 2 weeksFeel like Im in 2022 again
>>521413378you absolute fucking retard, the russian army has doubled in size and the russian industry is out producing the entire west in some departments despite being under every sanction imaginable
>>521413227How many of those 8 million are military-age men willing to fight and die for a few bags of cheetos?
>>521413601but this is exactly what we are not doing by not attacking and starving them to death for 99999 times during this conflict.one thing people like you never able to explain is that if we have so many casualties then when did it happen exactly?when this epic win was achieved?because this war is nothing but encirclement of ukranian forces and slow grind.occasionally we have a video or two with some dead russian.So back to original point you are contradicting yourself right now
>>521413315All of that would have been possible without the war. The war itself will not bring any benefits.>>521413524>So Iraqs invasion and destruction, justified by the possession of chemical weapons supplied by usa by the us-allied dictator(against Iran) was successful?I never said it was successful, just that it's less costly than fighting a protracted near peer war.
>>521412683Because my goal is to understand what you think, and you are very difficult to get a plain explanation from, so you've taken this discussion on a winding route
>>521413673Sanctions take time, and russia like the little snake it is tries to wriggle around them but it doesn't last forever. Also why this slavnigger isn't replying to his countries largest private company turning into a cripple.
>>521413903I answer to your questions directly and without any trickery.you do not answer mine and just change a subject.
>>521406892Lol you think it's about Monke and Zelensky? It's you being the nigger thugs you always have been, you are the fags obsessed about mc syndrome, and cocks, as some ukrainian guard pointed at a russian pow after he said he would rather suck it to Putin than Zelensky, "have you ever considered just not sucking cocks?".
>>521413857we were trying to solve this peacefully for 8 yearsthis is literally the only option on the table
>>521413997lmao I am not sure what point you are trying to make
>>521413735Doubled in size while reverting to 19th century warfare tactics AND lost a huge artillery advantage against a third world shithole because they’ve wasted almost all of their stockpiles against a bunch of $20 aliexpress drones and literal scraps from HATO?Do you honestly believe the tactics they are able to employ against a nation that has manpower issues will work against any other nation in the region?Try not to cope with "but muh numerical superiority!"A single sortie from Poland alone could wipe out the entire frontline in Pokrovsk. Be happy your zegro overlords are not dealing with a nation with an actual air force.
>>521413857>possibleYou couldn't do it. Trump can't do it in the US. Putin did it.
>>521413857If it was unsuccessful then every single life and dollar spent was was wasted, too high a cost.If russia is successful then the lives and money spent, though more numerous, were not wasted.Stop the fucking pipul kike.
>>521406892>warYou mean special military operation
>>521411593I hate you faggots so much
>>521414030>this is literally the only option on the tableyour countries going bankrupt lmaooooooooooooo
>>521414140you got me here germie.
>>521406113They are? Your map is heavily outdated.
>>521414198And yours has been bankrupt all along mohammed.
>>521413781>Well, it's true that Russia gained 8+ million in population... But, but...Is this the next level of discord tranny cope?Funny how you shills never mention how many millions of Ukrainians are dead and how NATO destroyed UkraineThey never talk about black-bagging Ukrainians and sending them to the front lines to die at gunpoint against their will>To the last Ukrainian!
>>521414198Actually your country is. You used old gw war loans with Ukraine if their government implodes you are on the hook for them. Shows how little you understand how stupid your country was for the war. have fun bud. Lmao.
>>521414312Look at you trying to come to your slavnigger friends aid/s lmaoooooooooooooooo Why is Lukoil going to lose it's oil fields in Iraq lmaoooo>>521414385We'll just take russias frozen funds get fucked slavshitter lmao
>>521414364Because to the (like to russia) there are no “ukrainians” in this war. Only russians.The NAFO objective is moar dead russians.
>>521406959>What is 2+2 and DO NOT say 4!Fucking imbecile. Russia has done everything it can to limit its own casualties and even used to try and limit trenchpigs getting fried until it was clear they actually seem to enjoy it.
>>521414509*because to them
>>521414509>The NAFO objective is moar dead russians.Indeed"To the last Ukrainian" is the NATO creed
>>521414499LMAO should have done that 4 years ago. Enjoy bankruptcy friend lmao. At least france and Germany weren't as retarded as your country.
>>521413808>but this is exactly what we are not doing by not attacking and starving them to death for 99999 times during this conflict.This has almost never happened. There were endless amount of footage of extremely low IQ assaults in Kursk alone because your chain of command never learn.Your tactics have not changed since the 19th century as seen in literally every conflict you’ve been involved in. Complete disregard for your men.And it shows in Pokrovsk too. If you’re just "starving them out", why are you committing so many troops and sending in suicidal infiltration missions to take more and more of Pokrovsk? Why can’t you close the kotel? This is such a cope take.>one thing people like you never able to explain is that if we have so many casualties then when did it happen exactly?Well I’m not gonna be the one who will deny everything is fine with Ukraine. They have manpower issues and lately you’ve found some weaknesses in their defenses and been able to overpower them in Zapo and Pokrovsk. Fact remains though that THEY actually employ tactics that saves lives which is through relying on drones etc due to manpower constraints. This is still insufficient to repell Russia in those abovementioned places but it’s pretty evident that Russia has failed hard on all the other fronts, particularly around Sumy and Kharkiv. The results are piles of corpses.>occasionally we have a video or two with some dead russian.Jesus Christ you’re so naive and innocent.
>>521407387This is how the Nazis could have defeated the Soviets and Russia knows it so now they deploy it and it makes trannies seethe
>>521414174boo hoo fuck you gonna do z-mutt?
>>521407597>When exactly did this ever happen?Every single town, try and keep up
>>521414613>Enjoy bankruptcy friend lmao.but im not russian lmaooooooo$700 billion dollarydoos of russias assets are at stake here lmaoooooo
>>521414364>many millions of Ukrainians are deadAre these millions of dead Ukrainians in the room with us right now?
>>521409787Yeah now the trenchpigs can strike out in all directions, a brilliant strategy.Reminder that ukraine went from 57 million people to 20 million and falling, might go down to 15 million. That's what you get though
>>521414821What's funny is you aren't even in the EU so you actually think Belgium would give it to you? Rofl x 10
>>521406208kekd fpbp
>>521414898>Russia's central bank held around $207 billion in euro assets, $67 billion in U.S. dollar assets and $37 billion in British pound assets.thanks for the cool 37 billions vlad lmaoooooooooooo
>>521414821In the long run this move will cost the west more in reduced investments and chilling foreign investment. But our leaders are dumb niggers who cant see more than a quarter year into the future.
>>521414030>we were trying to solve this peacefully for 8 yearsThe problem would have solved itself long ago if you didn't pour gas on the fire.>>521414129>If russia is successful then the lives and money spent, though more numerous, were not wasted.And in what way will the average Russian have benefited from it? With the money they spent on the war they probably could have substantially improved the lives of many Russians but enlarging their country by 0.1% is not going to have a measurable impact on any of their lives other than that of Oligarchs who now get to own more shit.
>>521414875>/pol/ is now doing jewish population reduction mathThe irony
>>521415025>have russia take an entire country and consume and use it's populace to take over other countries>take a financial hit for a little while>cant think a quarter of the year into the futureThanks for being a classic example of how retarded /pol/ users are
>>521414998Yeah so why haven't you touched it? You can't thats why your economy would literally become Zimbabwe. You won't do shit. Stay mad. Broke nigga lmao. Imagine putting yourself down as cosigner on a loan for Ukraine. Dumbest fucking country. No wonder with people like you there.
>>521415033You switch seamlessly from what benefits the state to what benefits subkects of the state. Its disingenuous pilpul and youre a kike. Im done engaging you.
>>521406113>be russian>be a spiteful mutant>be terrible at war>brag about being able to close pocket after 18 months on mongolian basket weaving forum dailyI guess those pincers are getting assraped from all sides as well. The surface area of the opposing lines is by definition the same. The difference is Ukrainians don't come here and try to flip the script about how shitty this war is.
>>521415164russia is on the hook for for reparations to Ukraine dumb little niglet it's losing that money either way lmaooooooo
>>521415033All of Russia is built on serfdom. Wave a bliny in their face and they will worship you with their life.It’s sad because I used to adore this nation before. Just centuries of complete disregard for their population.
>>521415147>Calls other people dumb when you actually think your banks will just seize moneyLmao. Clearly living in some Harry potter logic universe levels of delusion.
>>521415267>On the hookLmao. You are so fucking dumb. I swear you literally don't even know what you are talking about
>>521415285>thinks im retarded when he doesn't know russia has to pay reparations to ukraine so it's losing that money either way through us or itself and then debts get paid back with that moneyimagine being (You) lmaoooooooooooo thanks for the 700 billion bozo>>521415348>u dont know what u r talking aboutwell said retard lmaooooooooooooo
>>521415402>It was real in my mindLmao. This is you.
>>521415510>The idea of issuing a €140 billion reparations loan emerged in September and has since gained traction among member states, which are cash-strapped, lack space in their national budgets to accommodate extra borrowing and fear market backlash.>The advantage of using the immobilised Russian assets is that it would not involve the issuance of fresh debt individually, as the money would come directly from the cash balances currently kept at Euroclear, a central securities depository in Brussels.ooph go be a dumb nigger elsewhere retard lmaooooooooooo
>>521414998When it represented Russian investment in Europe that money had meaning, now it doesn't.If you freeze the $37 and then print $37 that's equivalent to seizing it so why not just print more if you think it benefits you? Adding more tokens into the economy doesn't make more factories, it doesn't make milk cheaper, it makes it more expensive.
>>521415806read before you post retard thanks for the money slavniggers we'll give it all to ukraine who will then repay their loans if any back to us. Imagine putting all your money in our pockets before pissing us off lmaoooooo
Kharkov meat grinderhttps://files.catbox.moe/ndjyne.mp4
Russia is winning.
>>521415201Says the country who kneels for BLM niggers and the LGBT AIDS flag hahahahahaGo kneel to your nigger kangz already you pathetic muttoid aka amerikneeler
>>521406113We've been asking this question for years now
>>521406208
>>521415165>You switch seamlessly from what benefits the state to what benefits subkects of the state.That's because your arguments are all over the place, I'm just responding to what you're spouting here. My argument at the beginning was that fighting an insurgency is easier than fighting a war, you were the one who veered into a discussion about the war on terror and whether or not it was successful which is completely immaterial to the discussion because it's just one example of an insurgency and not necessarily applicable to this case.
>>521415201Remind me again what you nigger loving muttmericans did again during 2020? Oh that’s right, you hid in your basements clutching your gun while feral niggers caused billions in damages burning down your cities. The only thing you mutts are good at is getting on your knees to suck nigger dick. All you precious guns and the only thing you ever use them on is kindergarteners lmao, fucking worthless nigger worshipping muttmericans.
>>521416826>war is eaaier when completing your objective isnt a factor
>>521415510love it when slavniggers come out of the wood work to one up you only to get btfo and run out of a thread.
>>521416950Well that's just you guys. There are plenty of examples where clear goals are set and insurgencies are crushed.
>>521417563We can agree on that.
>>521415033>>521412050> Ackshually…economic stagnation is good!The average German doesn’t even connect the dots between everything in his country getting 30% more expensive, private investment in German industry disappearing, and the bombing of Nordstream II: it hasn’t been officially delivered to him in narrative form by the German state-funded media and he is therefore incapable of thinking this thought. It’s a waste of time to try and “debate” a German; if you want to know what they think just read any German newspaper.
>>521407443a merc in bakhmut was interviewed about Russian siege tactics, he literally said they follow the same exact pattern everytime which was this>>521407387It may be a slow process but it's effective
>>521417885What good has our economy done for us? More foreigners, hurray. I'm glad that I grew up in one of the poorest parts of Germany because at least it was German.
