Can a Puerto Rican run for US president?
>>521777110Well, if elon mutt wants and thinks he will be president, why not a US territory?
And should they be able to?
>>521777308Technically, Musk shouldn't be allowed to run as he is a foreign-born citizen.....unless USA annexes SA. Hmmm.
>>521777110>>521777357>>521777512Are you one of Sven's friends?
>not giving me a (you)Rude, I'll stop replying you anymore
>>521777553Ah oui, je m'appelle Pierre. Sven was a frere.
>>521777512Oh, nevermind this >>521777562
>>521777644Indeed, I always aim to give a (You) for a (You), and sometimes even more! Time and attention span permitting.
>>521777627Can you translate?Me not speak the frenchNOT. Speak.Got it?Ugh...
>>521777864Ah oui, parole.I am a poor honeust officeur.
>>521778269I still don't know what the fuck you just said. Sorry, forgive my rather rude language but this language barrier is quite frustrating.
>>521777110Yes they are born as US Citizens
>>521777925Well, wouldn't want that to happen to the potential candidate I've been thinking of, for sure, but maybe by the time the election arrives things will have changed.It's just odd that no Puerto Rican not run for the president before.
>>521778345Puerto Rica seems to have some special status within the US and is, as a result, rather poor, among other things. It also has its own (international) flag, a web domain (.pr) and other things. Hence it being somewhat surprising.I wonder how much being a Puerto Rican would affect a presidential candidate's chances of winning the election. Would regular Americans be more or less willing to vote for them than say, for someone from Wyoming?
>>521778939Meant to reply to >>521778366sorry
>>521778345Desolee, I still study Anglais. Bonjour la Tour Eiffel, dit le kangourou. Did you know that in French every noun has a gendeur?
>>521779121>>521778939What? Holy shit.I'm actually going insane
>>521779335Bienvenue!
>>521777110as soon as John McCain's candidacy was legitimised
>>521779959>Born John Sidney McCain III>August 29, 1936>Coco Solo, Panama Canal ZoneOh wow, today I learned. Expected anons would be bringing Obama's birth certificate controversy instead, but this is more interesting.
>>521777110Why is Loona ndiscriminated against? I'm not even a fucking furry and this isn't even porn. I posted this and I get banned but the furry thread I posted it in didn't?Are jannies high on drugs?
>>521780251Yes.
>>521780086Hey thanks, added it to my "furry """porn""" " ban collection.Yea they're biased like that. Here's a thread from earlier today that was outright deleted for having a pic they didn't like, 6 hours in: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/521745466/
>>521777110Technically yes, but it would be a bad idea. Puerto Ricans can't even run Puerto Rico.
>>521780264Jannies are high on drugs all the time, buddy.Don't even waste your breath trying to argue.
>>521779335Brunette, ceci un Loonaposteur — >>521780086Oui!
>>521780354I can attest to that. Tried.
>>521780086Also you posted your IP by accident, don't you wanna hide that?
>>521780821Sure.
>>521777357I'm going with no.
>>521777110>Can a Puerto Rican run for US president?As far as my knowledge tells me, no. It has to be someone who was born in the US.
>>521780821If you ever struggle with getting a post out or need a burner ip, there's a handy service for that. Kinda sluggish these days without the special pass though because of so many people using it. Otherwise public IPs work fine, just have to get a new one and wait out the countdown.Be warned, even though these pics aren't against the rules by any means imaginary, they always delete those if they see them.
>>521780821What a quaint filename, by the way!
>>521781154What's wrong with the filename?
>>521780966Why though?If they are US citizens, aren't they entitled to it? The US has been using PR for their own purposes for many decades now, why don't these people deserve this opportunity, even theoretically?
This thread confuses me because I don't speak furry. It might as well be it's own language.
>>521781232It utilizes characters not normally typed by les Anglais, oui? Regardez: П! Le "k' is differente aussi: k, к.
>>521781431I didn't understand a word you said, Pierre.
>>521781516Ah desolee. I study Anglais but it is not tres bon yet. The filename is unusual. As an Englishman, do you have files named "Пpoeкт" too?
>>521781606>do you have files named "Пpoeкт" too?No. Mostly just ''Brigitte''
>>521781652Ah fair enough.
>>521780308pol mods and jannies are fucking retarded
>>521781785>Rules are to be enforced as written.Well that's not fucking true, is it?Jannies discriminate and delete these poor furry posters images even if it's not porn. And the rule is specifically ''NO PORN'' not ''NO FURRY''
>>521781785I hear that making a metathread using this image in the OP allows one to talk about the state of the board and voice one's concerns and suggestions without repercussions, but haven't tried it myself yet.Someone told me janitors themselves don't delete stuff but only forward it to the mods. Maybe the mods are allowed to interpret the rules as they see fit? Either way, I wouldn't read too much into it, clearly something's broken here and/or they have hidden rules they're not sharing with us.
>>521781965Il n'y a pas un rule against "furry" per se. There is one against "pony" though.
>>521782068I know, I know. Just pointing it out.
>>521782226Hey, calm down there's no need to be aggressive now.
>>521782226She's exquisite.
>>521777110VOTING IS FAKE AND JEWISH
>>521777110Not if we deport their asses and kick them out back to their own country
>>521782519Uhh... well... Jannies, hmm. Yes, they can be occasionally, uh... overzealous at times... but we shouldn't go as far as too say they're all corrupt, now can we?
>>521782541This.>>521782519Also this. If you play by their rules, they still hold all the cards. If they aren't obliged follow the rules, neither should we. Personally I still try to respect common decency though.
>>521782659A werewolf story:https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99910572#1
>>521782892I'm not interested. Why don't you go tell it to that aggressive loser who posts the wolf.
>>521777110Well if a Kenyan can...
>>521782993It is very educational. Maybe it will help you fight werewolves in the future.>the wolf.Por favor, it's claramente a hellhound.
>>521783038That certificate is a FAKE! He's a full-blooded American. HOPE
>>521783064>It is very educational.I doubt it. It's probably just furry porn fanfiction.
>>521777553I am Shiro Kanzaki, ruler of the mirror world and the mirror monsters.>>521782226>>521782519...would.
>>521777110Yes because Puerto Rico is US territory and all Puerto Ricans are granted citizenship at birth
>>521783211Oh please, I would never. It's a wholesome story that warns us of the danger of werewolves while promoting healthy family relations based on mutual trust and affection. Should be mandatory in schools really.
>>521783466I'm still not clicking that link.
>>521783408Swell! Now all I have to do is convince Fiddle to run, figure out how to get mail-in ballots without being a US citizen or stepping foot in the US, then distribute it among men of culture, and maybe then America can start healing.
>>521783523That's okay. I shall post it page by page elsewhere at a later date.
>>521783626I won't be reading it. I'd rather be dead than be a monster.
>>521783724What about Puerto Rican US presidents though?
>>521783323a homosexual hiding, there behind the smoke
>>521783211>>521782993If you're not a furry why do you post Bridgette all the time you fucking retard?Doesn't she literally become a wolf in the movies you massive in-denial furry? If you can't handle your true feelings just kill yourself.
>>521784017Shut the fuck up you illiterate retard. Her name is Brigitte not Bridgette and no she doesn't become a wolf because she fights it in the movies. You clearly have watched the fucking movies dumbass nigger. KILL YOURSELF
>>521784095Clearly haven't*
>>521784017Oh yea,https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/519928899/#519960101Actually, wow you guys must be living so close even your IDs match.
>>521783408so born to an American mother and Cuban father in Calgary is good too then
>>521784369That wasn't me, that was my cousin who lives in Palestine. I'm not a FUCKING FURFAGGOT.
>>521784765You're a furry in denial. Just admit it.
>>521784765I see.Hope he is doing okay.
>>521784901ALSO NOT METHATS MY IMAGINARY FRIEND
>>521777110No>>521777357No
>>521777110why on earth would you want to make it acceptable for everyone to get the green light to start coasting outside at sunset and partying every single night. i do not miss the island. why are we ricans incapable of not dancing every night.
>>521784978Hmm, the first "No" contradicts what the other posters ITT have been saying. According to them, Fiddle, a Puerto Rican, can run for a president.
>>521784968Christ, you really have gone insane. What will it be next, you speak to ghosts?
>>521784968I wish I had imaginary friends. Or friends.
>>521785144YOU STAY OUT OF THIS.
>>521783864...did you just call me, Asakura?
>>521785230But I can't stay out of this. I'm a part of you buddy, whether you like it or not.
>>521785036I'm not entirely sure. This seems like such a foreign concept (not that it's a deplorable thing by any means). I haven't seen another human being since the weekend and can't imagine daily partying.
>>521777110>natural born citizenYes. Someone born in France or Germany to an American mother is also a citizen and can become president
>>521785325>...did you just call me, Asakura?...did you just call me gay*Man.
>>521785371THEN SHUT UP.
>>521785495....boost...fox?
>>521777110Unfortunately, yes
>>521785112those other posters are fag lords
>>521784728Not the same. A person born on the US soil is a naturally born American citizen. It doesn’t matter if it’s Puerto Rico. Calgary is different unless the law was interpreted to allow that.
>>521785604What would be the odds of them even running, let alone winning? If your opinion is commonly shared by the mainlanders, then maybe this isn't an issue for you.
>>521785586DO NOT SPEAK OF ACE
>>521777110No.. fuck PR.. good for nothing parasites who should be cut off from the privilege of being a US territory.Their people just vote for whoever will bring the most gibs to the island for doing fuck all but existing.
>>521785762KEK
>>521785691>>521785448merkah faak yeaah
>>521785448Handy. Considering a lot of countries also grant citizenship to children who happen to be born on their soil even if their parents aren't citizens, I wonder if an American can give their kid some kind of headstart in life by having them somewhere else and getting both citizenships. US passport is pretty powerful on its own though, so probably not much of a reason to.
>>521785946Titles Of Nobility Amendment wuz dun dirty
>>521785811The US is exploiting them right now though (the Venezuela crisis buildup) and have been for decades. Seems unfair to deny them their rights.This whole neither-here-nor-there status is so confusing though. That's like South Ossetia of USA.
>>521785448This is only because every country in the world belongs to America.
>>521778939>Puerto Rica seems to have some special status within the US and is, as a result, rather poor, among other things. It also has its own (international) flag, a web domain (.pr) and other things. Hence it being somewhat surprising.It can be confusing, but if you’ve ever heard want to understand what Puerto Rico is to us, think of it like Denmark and Greenland. The USA is Denmark and Puerto Rico is Greenland. >I wonder how much being a Puerto Rican would affect a presidential candidate's chances of winning the election. Unfortunately, it would probably be more likely for a Puerto Rican to win the presidency in the America of today than someone from Wyoming. It cannot be understated how foreign the inner cities are. Most don’t identify as American, and the ones that do are black. Almost no whites in the cities. Puerto Ricans, like other minorities, are apolitical besides what party they perceive to benefit them the most as a group, so they’d vote for a Puerto Rican regardless of party over a white every time. Also, there are 4 times as many ethnic Puerto Ricans on the mainland than on the island itself. Yes, you read that right, so it’s a guaranteed 6 million or so votes because island dwellers can’t vote. >Would regular Americans be more or less willing to vote for them than say, for someone from Wyoming?Regular Americans as in people who have roots in this country before the 1960s? No, but the problem is that the Wyoming candidate would almost certainly be white and conservative, while the Puerto Rican would be a Democrat and sweep their vote based in policy amongst liberal whites, while minorities would vote in droves for the candidate on account of them being brown. 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants would be swept by Puerto Rican candidate. Famous American politician Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is Puerto Rican, better known as AOC.
>>521786178delegates are inplace in Congressalla they gotta do is wrangle the 'Organic Act>literal miles of cock-smoking required tho
>>5217863383 times as many*
>>521778939A lot of Americans don't know Puerto Rico is a part of the United States because frankly, it doesn't make any sense and isn't taught in all schools.
>>521777110yes. they can because they were born in a us territory
>>521784017>>521784095>>521784187Why are you talking to yourself?
>>521785724>What would be the odds of them even running, let alone winning? If your opinion is commonly shared by the mainlanders, then maybe this isn't an issue for you.The chance of a Puerto Rican running is significant to me. There’s millions more on the mainland here than there are on the island itself due to mass immigration since the 1940s. They’re very prominent in NYC and surrounding areas now. The only well-known mainland politician of Puerto Rican origin right now is AOC, but I could easily see many more of them becoming prominent politicians in the coming decades. Any hypothetical candidate would likely win the entirety of the Puerto Rican vote, all Democrat voting demographics, and, depending on the incumbent party and their ratings, possibly swing voters. For a candidate from Wyoming (almost certainly white and conservative) to beat a Puerto Rican in the current era, it would have to be at the end of an unpopular Democrat presidential term. The Puerto Rican would win the Hispanic vote with the exception of Cubans and right-wing Latinos in the Southwest. To sum it up, the likelihood of a Puerto Rican candidate is high, but winning depends on voter satisfaction with the Democratic Party in comparison to Republicans at that time.
>>521785946>I wonder if an American can give their kid some kind of headstart in life by having them somewhere else and getting both citizenships.I have long fancied marrying someone from Eastern Europe and having the children in South America for triple citizenship. I am too poor to escape this shit hole, however
>>521786985Aoc is a newyorican jew a lot of puertoricans fucking hate her.
>>521786338>Puerto Ricans, like other minorities, are apolitical besides what party they perceive to benefit them the most as a group, so they’d vote for a Puerto Rican regardless of party over a white every time. Also, there are 4 times as many ethnic Puerto Ricans on the mainland than on the island itself.Ha, what a clownshow. In their defense, it's not like the two political parties are that different, looks like you're mostly deciding which color or animal looks better and get shafted all the same regardless, and if they can't agree on the way to shaft you the government freezes until they do.> It cannot be understated how foreign the inner cities are. Most don’t identify as American, and the ones that do are black. Grim.>Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is Puerto RicanIndeed? Ha, I thought she was just a Mexican of sorts like the Florida guy. Before the elections there were anons on this board calling for her to step up and run for president. Dunno what her chances would be in 2028 but it would be fun to see.
>>521786985Ok but do they have to be Puerto Rican women? A PR male politician would be less loud
>>521786977Oh that's normal. What's abnormal is that we're still on air even though someone came after Loona's hot paws. Maybe this Averi obscure enough. Seems we've struck gold with the topic though, wasn't aware Puerto Rico is so significant to American electorates. For such a small island it's kind of packed too. Wonder why more Americans don't retire there. Poverty? Streetview doesn't seem that bad.
>>521786593>isn't taught in all schools.Ok this I can believe. Doesn't make it any less ridiculous, this territory is right there, a couple hours' flights from Miami (then again why would anyone from Miami go to PR).
>>521787419It has a disgustingly high crime rate for such a small island. The kikes historically destroyed its economy and stole farm land away from farmers.
>>521787137That is true, I’ll grant you that. >>521787208This is a good point. AOC is a particularly annoying person and if there was a calmly spoken male Puerto Rican politician maybe he wouldn’t be so bad.
>>521786357>'Organic ActOk this is too complicated for me, I really am not an American. There's multiple acts under that name including one that creates a national park service, among other things. Stands to reason that older legislatures ought to be reviewed now and then.
>>521787171>Ha, what a clownshow. In their defense, it's not like the two political parties are that different, looks like you're mostly deciding which color or animal looks better and get shafted all the same regardless, and if they can't agree on the way to shaft you the government freezes until they do.True, but it used to be better. A big part of why the parties are so subpar today is because Dems saw an opportunity to permanently secure minority votes in the middle of the 20th century, and ever since it’s been downhill. Republicans refuse to anything other but follow them in a delayed fashion. In the past, Americans would switch between parties because both were fine and agreed on 90% of things compared to today, so nobody gave a shit. Now, they switch between both part because they’re both so bad. We’ve come full circle.>Grim.Yeah. >Indeed? Ha, I thought she was just a Mexican of sorts like the Florida guy. Before the elections there were anons on this board calling for her to step up and run for president. Dunno what her chances would be in 2028 but it would be fun to see.Yeah, I often wonder how many people even in America are aware that AOC is Puerto Rican. Most Puerto Ricans know that she is, but I wonder how much of the general population knows.
>>521787784its an archaic generic term for the law that grants sovereignty to a territory, elevating it to statehood>reviewlaw-number only go up brrrr
>>521787935>AOC is Puerto Ricanand Ted Cruz is Cuban
>>521787612I think I remember them being left without electricity and basic amenities for a while following a hurricane a few years back, with them asking US for help and the US either not committing or doing it begrudgingly or something, for shame.>The kikes historically destroyed its economy and stole farm land away from farmers.Classic. >disgustingly high crime rateA shame but that place is also densely packed. This plus economic hardships must provide fertile ground for that. Google says it's almost 3x the US average, pretty bad but not the end of the world, I guess, at least from a glass-half-full perspective.
>>521788179Is this the mechanic that can turn PR into a full-fledged state then? Would be fun to see. Not that it would change much for someone not directly involved but modern maps are boring because hardly any borders have changed in the past ~35 years and besides a US president who adds more states to US after so long of a break would be well-remembered one way or another (I guess the idea is controversial atm).>Americans would switch between parties because both were fine and agreed on 90% of things compared to today, so nobody gave a shit. Now, they switch between both part because they’re both so bad.Ah well, that's a shame. I swear this is a global trend these days, parties either don't promise citizens what they really want to hear, or do promise and then go back on those — and there is no repercussion for it.
>>521788265Indeed
>>521787419>Oh that's normal.Talking to yourself is considered normal now?>Loona's hot paws.[Smiles]Hey don't flatter me, but thanks.
>>521788879>Not that it would change muchbut mah flag! nonono>also quid pro quo in Congressremember those miles of cock smoked to make this 'appen?and then we'll do it all over again when we annex Greenland
>>521786338>Unfortunately, it would probably be more likely for a Puerto Rican to win the presidency in the America of today than someone from Wyoming.False. Liz Cheney 2028!
>>521788265Cuban born in Canada.He's Trudeau's half brother, Castro is the father.
>>521788879>and there is no repercussion for itoui the golden pension is awarded regardless
>>521789181For Brunschwelleposter it is. He seems to attract all sorts of odd happenings. Last week, he even summoned a ghost to commune with, spooking the janitors into saging his thread. Either way, oughtta be careful with the hellhound pics, this isn't /bant/, they're more hateful here. I mean it's always nice to see more of there, just have to separate risky posts from safe posts, so that the latter don't end up deleted along with the rest. Then again, nothing lasts forever, especially on a board as fast-paced as this.
>>521786338Are you retarded. There was millions of Puerto Ricans in the us prior to the 1960s moron.https://www.nytimes.com/1975/06/22/archives/for-hispanos-its-still-the-promised-land-the-island-in-the-city-is.html“Now they were part of New York's huge Hispanic population—two of the city's most anonymous, most invisible people. They explained what had happened to them—and, even with its political idiosyncracies, their story was like those of many Hispanos we interviewed; they and hundreds of thousands of Dominicans, Cubans, Colombians, Argentinians and Peruvians have transformed New York's Hispanic community from a Puerto Rican “island in the city” (as writer Dan Wakefield once called it) to a “continent in the city.” The majority of the Hispanic community, now estimated at 1.5 million to 2.5 million, is still Puerto Rican, but others are coming in ever‐increasing numbers, and are the focus of this article.”
>>521782590Puerto Rico isnt a country. Brutal 75 iq poorfag southern hick brain moment
>>521786985New York City has historically been filled with Puerto Ricans since the 1940s.In fact salsa’s roots are actually not from Puerto Rico itself. Salsa comes from Nuyoricans in nyc during the 1960s
>>521789836Her name is Brunschwelle? I'm guessing you two are close then?
>>521777110No, you have to be a human being or at least half human to be elected President.
>>521789435>but mah flag! nononoTheirs is a sick flag for sure, but they still get to keep it as a state flag. Texas' lone star is still fairly well-known, California has a recognizable one etc. Maybe they wouldn't want it to lose the status though, I guess? Cuba's flag looks the same but with colors inverted, maybe Cubans would mock PRs for their flag not being "real" anymore or something ...when they have internet connection. >remember those miles of cock smoked to make this 'appen?They can probably bribe them with kids or something, I dunno.> annex GreenlandOh, figured Trump forgot about that plan of his.Maybe he'll suddenly remember about the thing closer to the midterms?>>521789579Getting freebies from corporations is another issue at hand, how "lobbying" isn't outlawed is beyond me. Like even now Trump just keeps swinging the stocks up and down by announcing stuff then either going through with it or going back on it. Obviously someone out there knows which statements are feints and just buy on the dips.
>>521790401Anon please, Biden was a corpse and still won the popular vote.
>>521790257I keep messing up the spelling. Bruchette? Brunhilde? Bridgette? It's tough to memorize especially when not trying too hard.>I'm guessing you two are close then?You could say that, I suppose, though he probably would disagree. We first met in these:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/516999364/https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/517003128/and hit it off fast as testified by all these lovely posts.
