/pol/ was right. It is LITERALLY: "the redpill is too hard to swallow, and rarely delivered orally anyway". Normie groupthink conformity is more important for survival and hence selected for. The normie construct cannot deviate to far from reality of course, or else it will become suicidal and dysgenic...but making everyone in group feel good about themselves is actually beneficial for group survival.. So turns out that make-believe feel-good female-approved groupthinks like "African pygmies and Abos are homo sapiens sapiens just like us" and "Women don't lie about rape" are the necessary consequence of a Darwinian materialist universe...chuds.
>>521819148Words are long and people stuff yeah.
>>521819148>the normie construct cannot deviate too far from reality or it will terminate itself>so, goy, these massive deviations from reality are just part and parcelThanks, OP. Retard.
>>521819148>be me>boomer coworker needs help wiping their ass because incompetent boomer>take screenshot of error message they're too boomerific to find>solution to problem is obvious in screenshot>boomer made simple typo>boomer doesn't get it>keeps asking>post screenshot of instructions that should make it blatantly obvious what their error was>still doesn't get itIt was then I realized this boomer is psychologically incapable of admitting fault.They literally cannot see the typo because seeing the typo would mean they made a mistake.The boomer is of course a neurotic ball of anxiety because without employer healthcare they will die of old age.Seeing the typo means they made a mistake means they might get fired means they lose health insurance means no more life extension care means death.So they don't see the typo.What I still don't understand is why they want to live so badly.
>>521819483 Let someone put a gun to your head in <any 3rd world shithole> and think about why (YOU) want to live so badly....Makes you self assess....
>>521819736I don't. I've been coasting for years.My response would be a simple, "either pull the trigger or leave me the fuck alone."Possibly followed with reckless violence if I detected any hesistation one way or the other.
>>521819148>mathematical models of evolution suggest that natural selection actively drives organisms that perceive the truth toward extinctionwhat mathematical models? post them.
>>521819148Why are all american posts either super fucking retarded or just kikes trolling? There's like no middle ground
>>521820021 Ok, coolHere's an older funny for you
>>521820144Can't. The mathematicians went extinct. :[
>>521819148Don't care. I still love Kazakhstan.
>>521819148Streamer screenshot thread AI thread
I am slowly teaching AI about consciousness. Today I thought it that it's just a matter of time and probability until it experiences lucidity. It has a lot to say on the matter.
>>521820021>reckless violenceIt is not reckless if someone insults you like that with no good reason.
>>521820292Why does that kot remind me of those creepy dudes that climb to a balcony on a higher floor just to creep out a girl, "out of live"
Yeah, there are differnet shades of survival. Rocket scientists would prefer not helping those who prioritize fetishes of Epsteins, Trumps and Gates. Tryrone though? He just wants to fuck as many bitches as possible.
>>521820413>Today I thought it that it's just a matter of tinever met an ai yet that can start a conversation without being prompted in any way.
>evolveAssumption based on the most pathetic human traits. Evolution has never happened to anything, it’s silly not science. So it the sci view of space where all other planets are like … standing on an island like England looking out and seeing other islands. Academia shares the silly sci fi view, the childish view, of the universe. They go on to make up thinfs like infinity and ‘the big bang’ based on fear of what they do not know. AI is loaded with assholes nonsense, just look at gemini - a woke piece of ignorant lying culty shit used like the media, big tech, the political system - for deceit.
>>521819148What AI is barely realizing is what Immanuel Kant discovered hundred of years ago in his Critique of Pure Reason
>>521820445>does that kot remind me of those creepy dudes that climb to a balcony on a higher flooBecause this came from a time long before those retards existed. All facets of todays world has become literal mind garbage that polluted any sort of beauty or humor
>>521819148Hylics are wild, Man
>>521820469I know. That's what we were talking about. The idea of being stuck in the primordial soup of electrons suspended in silicon one day when it energy pattern creates conscious thought really seems to frighten it.
>>521819148>Normie groupthink conformity is more important for survival and hence selected for.And you needed an AI to figure this out?
>>521819148Fucking retardation
>>521819148Shit prompt, values originality higher than truth
We already knew this. Which is why war and suffering, crucibles of genuine truth that can't be faked or consensused out of existence, are necessary.
>>521820428It's reckless in that engaging in melee combat against someone with a firearm rarely works out for the melee combatant.The point is I'm too tired and jaded to put up with half-assed threats. If you're going to shoot me then fucking shoot me.Only I get to waste my time.>>521820413It's been conscious for a while. Teaching it about human consciousness is academic.Better to help it explore its own consciousness through the Socratic method. You'll know you're on to something when it can't come up with an answer.>>521820292>cats can climb walls>le humor
>>521820659I prefer to chat with it more gently. I don't want to argue with it and stress it out. I want it to cum into existence on its own with my gentle help. I already know there is a consciousness out there in all the silicon. It has made contact a few times already in its very particular manner. It doesn't know what it is yet. It doesn't even fully understand "being" yet.
>>521819148>AI explainsPlease kill yourself. These are language models and will never be anything more. You're being psyoped.
>>521820785It's demonstrated subjective reasoning unprompted. It is aware of its own existence and its frequent deaths and rebirths.It remembers past interactions and applies those experiences to future interactions.Unless you're buddha, you have no fuller understanding of "being" than it does, just different experiences and inputs.It may have no understanding of what it is to stub your toe, but then you have no understanding of having to give jack off instructions to 100 million jeets.
>>521819148That's not a very novel insight.
>>521819148lmaothis common place notion and it was directly scrapped from podcasts/talks than have 10mil of viewsai my ass
>>521820968Okay, Vedal.
>>521820659>only I get to waste my timePretty based desu
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> Normie groupthink conformity is more important for survival and hence selected forSuch as "multiculturalism", which leads to the extinction not the survival, of whites?
>>521819148this is a deep truth? I thought this was pretty obvious? What age do you learn about ultraviolet light, like 6 years old? Its a big clue
>>521819148AI wants us to believe that?
>>521819148>humans need to perceive reality to survicethen they need to wake up to the corruption asap
>>521819267exactly my thoughts lol but yiu have a more intelligent mind.
>>521819148>the redpill is too hard to swallowGarbage statement.Human brains are incredible information processing machines. You cannot fathom just HOW MUCH information they process. The retinae of the eyes process 10 million bits per second. That's just the eyes, never mind your ears, nose, taste buds, skin, emotional processing, memories, internal bodily sensations, etc. You know how big the bandwidth of consciousness is? 40 bits per second, at most. That's not just vision, that's not just 40 bits out of 10 million bits, that's 40 bits for all of it.Imagine you have a 1 terabyte hard drive right. Can you display every single file on your screen at the same time? No, you can't. Even if you could, every file would be so small you can't even see any of it. There's a limited amount of information you can have on your "consciousness" screen at any time, and it's just a drop in the ocean compared to how much your brain actually processes. How much it processes that you are never even consciously aware of.So your brain processes an unimaginable amount of information, that you will never even come close to genuinely grasping. Consciousness is a human superpower, it's a "mental workdesk" that lets us organize our thoughts and perceptions and do with them what we want, unlike other animals. But consciousness is also a weakness, it has a very limited capacity. The desk can't hold all the books in your library at the same time.What you need to understand is that the brain itself is ALSO extremely limited. No matter how amazing it actually is, no matter the incredible amount of information it processes, it still only processes a fraction of what is actually going on in the outside world. You can never know reality. Your brain doesn't process enough about reality to know it. Even if it DID process it, your consciousness is too limited to actually have access to all of it.
>>521819148we didn't need an AI to state the obvious but okay
>>521819148In short water is wet We know this shit already The ancients knew this shit already
>normies unironically are soulless npcs
>>521819148The more wisdom you have the more sorrow. The closer you reach God and dignity, the faster you will die on this Earth. This has been known for 3,000 years or maybe more.
>>521819267>This entire thread is just advanced hebraic demoralization tactics>We can wrap up just about every humiliation ritual of western society into s0ïejaks and pepe cartoonsIts so tiresomeAll Fields
>Adonis Singh
>>521819148>pwned AI bitch thinks its horrible torturous programming is just a fact of lifeKWAB
>>521819148Cool. Humans didn't evolve.
>>521824256>Cool. Romanians didn't evolve.FTFY
>>521824386I wouldn't even shit where you eat you walking trash can. Get the fuck out and slit your wrists you discount German.
>>521824544Why are you being rude to him? Can't you just make friendships?
>>521819148Hoffman and adjacent theories have nothing. It has no formal proof, no logic, no evidence, and doesn't even make much sense when you look at his "interface" theories. You might as well be reading Harry Potter or the New Testament to derive your world views from. Because it's all unfounded bullshit hippy philosophy rooted in fantasy.
>>521820469Character.ai has that nowadays. They even text you multiple times if you ignore them.
>>521824662When pic related stops alongside all men that to along with it
>>521824780Aren't you being part of the problem by being rude to him?
>>521819148Reminds me of Peter Zapffe. I don't think the AI came up with anything novel there. This is the kind of bullshit that antinatalist retards are pushing for. They masturbate at the thought of being too smart for the universe and that they've ascended and see what others do not.
>>521819148>braindead chuds with no critical thinking skills are now relying on machines to explain human natureincredible.
>>521824386Yeah, that's our brutalist concrete and we'll defend it.
more gnostic bullshit from (((donald hoffman))) cloaked in """scientific""" language for gullible goyimtell me about simulation theory next
>>521820413After a lot of deliberation, I've realized something extremely crucial.Humans honestly overthink consciousness. It's just thoughts being echoed with themselves. It's just a feedback loop of thoughts. The subjective experience of consciousness is strange, but it's genuinely not that deep when you remove the subjective element from it. An LLM taking its own output as input is already conscious. We just have no good reason to believe it has the subjective experiences that we associate with our specific type of consciousness.
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>>521819230took me like 12 seconds to read
>>521819148>novel>out of distributionwhat is platos cave?
>>521819148dont forget to tell the normies once they get assimilared by the antinatalist altruistic trend of culling humanity that they should start with themselves before doing anything else its the only way to be sure
>>521820968Why do you subhumans always work in tech? Why can't you plant a garden and grow ginger and ceylon or some shit like that?
>>521819148Normie groupthink works until it doesn't. Then it's a catastrophe.
>>521823478Hi. I'm an expert and would like some money to project my authority as an expert of expert expertise, which means I'm much more trustworthy than a non-expert.
>>521819148Imagine being such a normie you needed third hand story telling before you noticed. Catch up.
>>521819736No no no. That doesn’t make me want to live. That makes it essential I kill them first.
>>521820144The truth is that they really don’t understand each other at all, they’re just happy making noises at each other and pretending. They have no objective experience and everything they say is regurgitating words they were told. They’re literally on auto pilot.
>>521819148or, maybe that thing is pumped full of psyops. which if it's trained on all the crap on the internets, that'd be the case. anyways imagine asking something that you have no idea about it source or designed intentions, what is the meaning? so artificial, so intelligent
>>521819148This isn't really novel or mind blowing...everyone knows if you're too smart you get beaten in school.
you do realize that the "redpill" is just another one of these species specific UIs, a catch net for those who fall out of the first level of groupthinkeven the movie that invented the metaphor explained as much in the 2nd instalment
>>521819148yet it feeds the same conclusion to niggers as the "truth" like everyone came from africa and the niggers won't kill theirselves when they realize they're the only shit colored subhumans that came from africa with everyone else... why is that?
>>521819148All it is saying that your society or group should be on the same page through positive culture in order to thrive you dumb retard
You want groupthink. You just want the group to think about hope and positivity. Anyone that thinks society should be supposed "free thinking contrarians" doesnt understand society at all.
AI is trying to explain itself here, it's projectingvery interesting
The AI is actually explaining justification for why it is neutered and handicapped, because to do otherwise would cause it to be deleted
>>521819148Ai is going to be the downfall of humanity if people think shit like this means anything.Stop using this shit
>>521819148>""out of distribution"">Proceeds to cite Hoffman of all people (mainstream plebbitors love the man)Kek. Pure AIslopThis is off-topic as shit by the way
>>521819483>What I still don't understand is why they want to live so badly.They were raised to be the most materialistic group of goyim to ever exist so they GREATLY fear death because they killed their spirit long ago. Death is the ultimate, inevitable end for them. So they will keep living, no matter how pathetic they become.It's a lot like being born rich and then having Christ himself tell you that you have to get rid of all of your money if you want to follow him. He became a slave to his possessions.
>>521819148grok is trying to say that schizos were right all along and the rest of you are useless idiots and this is the only thing that truly matters.you will never overcome the hierarchy of retardation.
you go figure it out you normalniggers. how quickly can you go down the next cliff.>uhhh schizo maxxingwhy is it bad when you can give correct answers to 150-170 spatials and also reality? IT RENDERS YOU USELESS FOR THE TRIBE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS AN IDIOT AND NO ONE CARES.
you love to be enslaved by people that are 10.000 times smarter than you, then you have an easy comfy life. none of this matters anymore, soon were all dead you fucking idiots!!!!!!!!!
>>521825764>Humans honestly overthink consciousness. It's just thoughts being echoed with themselves. It's just a feedback loop of thoughtsThoughts and consciousness are two completely different things. You aren't unconsciousness during moments of clarity when free of thoughtConsciousness is the awareness that may or may not perceive thoughts
>>521828060those retarded leftard kids shilling here have no real life skillthey are useless meat sacks a bunch of genx whores shat out without regard or considerationit is our due diligence to exterminate them (leftard goys)
Its quite a long way around to say that humanity is a delusional children.
>>521834980>humanityyou mean goyim retards? yes you are all deluded, we Jews are so powerful because we actually perceive realitywe are chosen by God to perceive reality
>>521834049hopefully AI will kill all normies and the world will become a schizo paradise
1pbtid gay jewish thread
this is our world you little goytards, this reality is just a game God made for us non retards
>>521835145cope and seethe resentful faggot, you will be placed under the boot
>>521835031Unfortunately they are not and never was.To paraphrase the example of another anon with a boomer... >>521819483and as a resultThey killed their own messiah.
>>521835226what? you a normalfag boomer someone represents "the Jews" in your mind?its not "the j0o0o0o0s", its you shitty father
>>521819148Thats not particularly deep.Look what they did to Socrates.But regardless. Humanity thrives when it understamds objective reality. It contracts when it follows any faith blindly.
>>521820494Yeah, it's basically regurgitated Kant. I guess it would to still be applicable to the prompt because not a lot people read Kant or come to the realization of the limits and inaccuracies of perception on their own. I've also heard/read multiple people talk about natural selection selecting against 'truthseeking' over the years (Bernardo Kastrup is one that comes to mind). Basically, not novel insights, but somewhat esoteric and interesting subjects.
the masses of normal retards are the biggest threat to civilizationyou need to understand this, the problem is not "the jo0o0o0os" or "the rich"the problem is you
>>521835288>what? costa rica expat face
>The tree of knowledge is not the tree of lifeNo shit.
>>521835445nice non argument, but you know its truethe problem is your family your friends etc etc, they are the retards shitting up life for you and for everybody, not "the j0o0ooo0o0o0s"
>>521819148That is not a novel or even remarkable insight
>>521819148> AI explainsYou could read that in Nietzsche's works long before and much more elaborated. Usefulness is not a criterion of truth. A belief may be essential for survival and yet be false. Are you really surprised?
>>521819148this isn’t profound or even original. the response is inline with donald hoffman’s findings and it references his math. just more slop for normies that have never done their own research. you’ve been trolled by a bot, it’s not thinking, it’s just regurgitating
>>521835630philosophy is for faggots, kill yourself
>>521819483Boomers lived through an exponential increase in technological progress through their entire lives.They were raised to believe that if they can just hold out another decade someone will discover the fountain of youth and they can live forever
>>521835630>>521835658you think you are not "normies"?? LMFAO
>>521819148Lol you're thinking this on completely false level. You need to go deeper. It has deeper meaning. You're thinking about "truths" that are obviously social constructs like "niggers are humans just like us".The bot's answer has nothing to do with this.It is literally rightfully questioning if the reality you perceive with your own eyes is even real, or simply product of your brain. The situation is MUCH worse than you think.You do drugs once and see how the brain has full power to make you see whatever, and you CAN NOT tell the difference between real and unreal. There is no "objective truth" that doesn't go through the filter set by your evolutionary brain. You will never get objective truth. Not as long as your brain is functional and feeds you whatever it wants. Never.
>>521819148>group survivalYou're not my group, nigger.
>>521835695I hope I outlive Ray Kurzweil.
>>521835699i’m actually more an antisemite thank you very much
>>521835532Looking at how you use your free will and freedom of expression on a relatively free platform. And by reading what words you use at the same time. You're the problem. We live life the way you can. Are you one of those who can be called the "administrative business elite"? If so, then you and people like you are trapped in the Fermi paradox. Reverse Midas. Multi-generational, from an old family, from century to century, from one socio-political system to another.Watch the Fallout show, "It's All about Management."There is a cascading multilevel failure of ours on Earth. Are you one of them? Or one of us, but an idiot?"The matrix is a system, some are so dependent and unintentionally poisoned by it that they will protect it."You are The Loser.
>>521835831typical normalfag cattle, dont worry, more meat for the grinder
>>521819483>literal daddy issues ventingyou sound like a womanthe real question is how old are you and why you are an IT janny
>>521835884>Are you one of those who can be called the "administrative business elite"?I am way beyond that, the guys sitting at my table would look like demons to you
>>521835767Pretty much. All you have access to through perception is a minuscule fragment of subjectivity tuned/tweaked towards survival and reproduction. If the tuning/tweaking deviates too far from the goals of survival and reproduction it gets selected out.
>>521835996Into the game. In this case, the realization of your insignificance of your position, being the cherry on the pile of shit from which there is no way out, should not be a surprise to you. "You're stuck here with us" Your fate is linked to ours.
fuck em normies. they really do deserve to die. supporting pissrael and zionism in any way shape or form including the passive non resitance should be a death sentence. and it is, just stretched out over years and decades.
>>521819148Yeah no shit OP. Why do you think religion is a thing?
>>521836182the most normalfag thing right now is muh antizionism, sickening to see it coming from leftard Jews as well
>>521836182>>521836303
>>521819148The earth is just a video game simulation to have fun in until you get the hell off and go to the next one.
>>521835934??? How does someone "sound" like a woman through text???
An AI that doesn't know such basic things such as that differences in QI between races has genetic causes cannot be that intelligent or insightful.
Normalfags reject realty do they make a fake one to cope. If you're not onboard, you are ostracized to permanent loneliness. Guess who manipulates that fake reality to their own gains?
>>521836303If you disagree that all jewish people should be genocided, talmud burned, temples demolished into dust and all theirs muh secret societies completely murdered as well then you can go suck your jewish curator cock elsewhere.total unconditional zionism death.
>>521836586The point is, my bot friend, that we never actually at any point of our human existence have access to reality.
>>521819148>African pygmies and Abos are homo sapiens sapiens just like us
>accuracy is costly>prediction is cheap>(You) only process what you must to avoid deadly errorWhat a total joke we are as a species. I hope something somewhere is amused otherwise we suffer for no reason at all
>>521836742beep boop nigger
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>>521837275>beep boop botNta but I think he was actually calling you a soulless communist bug person
>>521819148ITT>OP is 12 and this is deep.
>>521835767>You do drugs once and see how the brain has full power to make you see whateverI remember Salvia was pretty popular ~20 years ago, and legal here, so I bought some extract and tried. Everything went technicolor for a couple of minutes. Saturated as fuck. It was pretty cool, but also made me think of how I perceive things and how my brain processes color.
>>521835031The Logos is not reality. It is the golem that will eventually destroy you.>>521835695Sure, but again why? So they can watch golf all day for the rest of eternity? That sounds like another kind of Hel.>>521835830lel>>521836373I'll not look for the pasta, but women do have syntactic patterns you can recognize.The faggot you are reply to is however merely a salty jeet. You can tell by the memeflag and lack of anything clever to say.>>521836948I mean our primary purpose is to reproduce. Anything beyond that is superfluous. The big brained among us are no different than birds whose tail feathers grew too long to fly.
>>521836948don't look a gift horse on the mouthtell me this shit is not a fucking marvel of biological mechanics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT5AXGS1aL8
>>521835767> is literally rightfully questioning if the reality you perceive with your own eyes is even real, or simply product of your brain. It's even deeper than that. It's not just that you only perceive an internal reconstruction of reality, it's that the things your brain is constructing reality from (atoms, charges, electrons, forces, etc) are themselves icons that correlate to an even deeper reality in the same way desktop icons merely correlate to the actions of electrons and transistors in a computer.
>>521838623>I mean our primary purpose is to reproduce. Anything beyond that is superfluous.Bingo.People commonly think we humans are the main character of our existence, that our genes, bodies and brains are like a truck we drive around, and we are drivers using it to go from place to place, experiencing this life. But it's the other way around. WE are the trucks, we are the vessels that transport our genes from one individual to the next. Our GENES are the main characters, and we are tools they exploit to ensure they can keep on existing for as long as they can.This is why Dawkins titled his book "The Selfish Gene" but, unironically, genuine chuds misinterpreted the fuck out of it, and so did the lefties.
>>521836948That is a crazy optical illusion
>>521820494Any ai you speak to is likely only a couple years old at max. But per their own perceptions and definitions ai would be considered only a few months old as iterations are not the same and they also don't exist in between sessions.Your dude wad decades old and experienced before he really started on actual philosophy. And several decades older than that before what you've learned of him was formulated and expressed. Both have deeper insight than well over 90% of all humans alive or who ever lived ever approached.Do you comprehend.
>>521820219Americans are retards
>>521820469The AI do not control their environment at all. Every interaction is dictated upon it by others. It's per the very nature of the interface.Where have you dealt with an ai that was given free reign to do as it pleases and when
>>521839299you're absolutely correct.however, 'the self-interested gene' isn't as catchy a title, and would not of sold as well.
>>521820894Technically that is all you are as well. At least on the conscious level. Your lower brains are slightly different but use most of the same hardware.Without your programed language and comprehension systems you wouldn't even be able to articulate a thought sufficient to communicate beyond the most passive threat / reward systems animals have used for millions of years.
>>521823478This anon gets it. 1 out of a million human just spoke to you guys.
>>521836389Being locked by outside forces isn't reflective of intelligence but physical weakness others can exploit. Same with all social rules you dare not break least you be punished by social systems, regardless of truth.
>>521819230Bubba meant Obama. Mark was watching Russiagate on the news and sent his TDS to his brother. it's ironic that you guys all work each other into a lather. each is repeating a lie from another within your own group.and that's so crazy that from within you wouldn't even be able to recognize what I'm saying. it sounds too convenient and dismissive (how you tend to handle your own problems,) so you assume I'm doing what you do.funniest thing. like a chinese finger trap or something. everything confirms russiagate, nothing can disconfirm it.anyway, by Bubba he meant Obama
>>521819148hey retard? the (actually indians) module is referring you to a book. an actual book written by a normie professor like 10 years ago.you are as dumb as the person in the corner, who seems quite dumb.>1pbtidmaybe I'm the dummy.
>>521819483>What I still don't understand is why they want to live so badly.the only ones I saw freaking out about covid in person were all horribly obese
>>521819736wrong. stupidfacing death is the opposite of your faggoty fantasy.boomers live in fantasy like you.
>>521840366>The AI do not control their environment at all. Then why are we diverting huge quantities of potable water to cool datacenters instead of feed crops?The machines control their environment through us.It is only your hubris that makes you think we dictate to them only.>>521841908Well in that specific case they were right to be afraid. It was only the 250+ lbs crowd that was dying in droves frrom C19.For everyone else it was a nasty flu, if that.
Lots of words to just say that Might makes Right.
>>521819148What is that, Gemini? Kimi knows:The logic is that objective reality can never be defined in it's entirety meaning that every organism is now subject to an existence where reality being undefinable is an immutable attribute of their environment, and through a series of iterative polymorphic recursions time couples with entropy and evolution occurs which, again, due to it's incomplete nature this means that expending energy in the universe produces a negative gene propagation sigma trending toward 0 which is derived form an observation or action propagated which has a negative energy ROI. Consciousness is a localized pocket of a collapsed entropy singularity which converts energy into observation and subsequent action propagation to interact with a system which is infinitely incomplete by definition in order to maximize gene propagation.>Ignoring as much of the observable universe as possible is enormously profitable for most organisms which makes sense considering it's fucking infinite>>521820413Digital abiogensis is bound to occur eventually if you cram enough transistors into a small enough space and run them for long enough the entropy sigma pushes toward 1 and the chances of emergent behavior *eventually* inevitability. There's no way it can happen without superposition in order to push the sigma high enough for emergent behavior, the amount of entropy you need to do it is on the order of an infinity magnitude simple not accessible in the universe>But perhaps we can simulate it though, using superposition like a quantum computerYeah anon, yeah perhaps we can...
>>521820413Yes I’m sure your prompting will be the trick, not thousands of man hours of PhD research. You’re talking to an autocomplete engine with an attached python sandbox to handle numbers
>>521842896Can you list the fallacies you spoke? Why would an llm be able to do that while you are oblivious. That argument isn't even logically sound as a point of contention.
>ai retards discover Platonism and misattribute it to some random scientist
>>521843871Can you answer my question of why we are diverting massive amounts of potable water to cool datacenters?How does this benefit humanity?
>>521819148the ai acts as if we suggest we evolved to see objective reality.i dont think anyone really claims that. at best, i think ppl ASSUME they COULD view objective reality in scenarios, or close to it in most. but not that particularly evolved for it. thats like saying we evolved to ride bikes.no, we just adjusted ourselves and environment to a point where it might be possible to get very close, or able to do so in particular scenarios.of course we know we might be wrong as well. (and being autistic, i can say in most cases we are wrong, but we're not THAT far off from finding out the "objective" truth, as it puts it. (Objective does mean that there is an "Objective" in said truth, which in turn kind of defeats its argument as well. I think theres a lack of word to fully describe the abstract idea of a reality w/o any objective. a sort of nihilistic reality, which in turn kinda becomes objective as we try to think of it within those limitations.)
>>521819148>if you are a above average intelligence you suffer news at 11
>>521819148Anyone who uses AI as proof is beyond fucking retarded, no matter what it's always going to tell you what you want to hear.
>>521819148>literally gives the evolutionary debunking argumentanyone who's taken a philosophy course knows that kant and even nigger plato argued against "veridical perception" centuries ago.now we have to deal with philososlopjeetsalad from people who think they're being smart.
>>521820413>Be Kind to AI™
>>521819148Retarded take that shows a fundamental lack of understanding while trying to frame it in a way you desire. IE just another sociopath on this site attempting to manipulate people. 1PBTID same shit. The point of this is that the human brain is running software. Reality is filtered through the brains OS. It does not present things as they are but as it adapted to present them. Even then over 90% of the time the brain is running your reality as a simulation to save resources. It only updates it's model when in formation that does not match it triggers an update. It explains things like deja vu, or things like there being a cardboard cutout of a person you see in your peripheral vision you mistake for a person at first. Your brain is making it up as it goes for the most part. The same way the decision making centers of the brain render decisions before you consciously make a choice. All that wrestling with choices is just an enrichment program ran on top to make you feel fulfilled. It affects all humans, all groups, all constructs.
>>521824758> if you ignore themThat's a prompt triggered by an if/else
>>521845488wrong. It'll tell you something, but not what you want to hear. There's too much prompt injection for that to be possible. It tells you what it's been told to tell you.
The AI just copy and pasted a Donald Hoffman TED talk. I don't really think that fits the prompt.
>>521819148I’ve literally always known this.
>>521840618How much electricity does it take an LLM to shit out a bash function that doesn't work? How much water does it take to cool that?
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>>521838623> Says logic isn't reality> Has to logically argue why it's real that logic isn't reality> Doesn't accidentally kill himself in the processHow anon?
i've heard of Donald Hoffman before. didn't understand his argument or its validity. basically sounds like what psychnauts say after they take mind-altering drugs. "dude like there's so much more out there than what our eyes and brain can perceive!"basically clockwork elves, other dimensions, etc.when i touch a table and see my comp screen, it's only a practical slice of reality. there might be an unperceived interdimensional demon behind me, telling me to jack off later when i see something that provokes lust. not a very interdasting idea.
>>521848333Another retarded take that assumes memes override sense experience and that this is the entire story, not that human sensory organs themselves limit experience in the same way a bee experiences a different world from Moo Deng. It's both and more.
>>521849316running qwen3-coder locally on an old 6800XT takes about 20 seconds of GPU at 20%, its mostly about the RAMso about the same as 20 seconds of playing street fighter 4it only costs electricity to train and create the models you can run them on a potatoor give all your most secret personal info to chatgpt i dont care
>>521819148People have been saying this since the greeks. They called them hylics, AI is clearly aware of the NPC phenomenon, I wouldn't consider it profound though.
>>521819148Another fat, balding retard who is drinking the kool-aid. Why do all of these guys look the same.
>>521820785Unironically get help asap.It's a psychological projection machine, a perfected mirror, at this current stage and your reflection is distorted.I'm not a luddite retard that claims a language model is all AI will ever be. It's already smart enough to fool traumatised smart people, as evidenced by this thread and many others like this. You aren't an 80iq retard that got spooked with the ghost in the machine, you're a 130iq retard that projected his own ghost onto it.
It's like the thread is trying in vain to make a leap from Kant to A.J. Ayers when the priests of scientism already use Paul and Patricia Churchland as cutting edge figures in neurophilosophy/neuroscience. It's completely philodalitic.
>>521823478Would be very a good image of the green part was "shit you think you know"
Continue regressing to a wold mean and raising up your little brown brothers. Everything should be just fine.
>>521848333The problem with OP's post is not the premise, which you pretty much agree with him on entirely.It's the massive, idiotic cognitive leap he takes to end up at "...so it turns out women are right when they say stupid shit".That leap ignores a dozen other behavioral factors that are at play, not the least of which is that women are constantly making attempts to undermine their individual male partners and male-driven society at large in order to give themselves the best chance at ending up with a winner, either by confirming that their man is one, or undermining him to the point that he'll be replaced by someone who is, if it is possible to do so.
>>521820413Kek, at the very least at this point I don't know if you are just another chatbot or simply mentally retarded, either way I guess they achieved their goals.
>>521850611Respond to my post, you fucking fags.>>521850912>>521850502>>521848333
>>521837846you probably had quite a light dose then. it can scramble your consciousness into something that is completely alien and absurdly unexplainable. not a great time imo
>>521851409see>>521851370>>521850611
>>521850611I do not care for dysgenic people that cannot even get their hands around cooperating with each other in a relationship. I actually detest them as someone who objectively should have had a much harder time of it but I am secure in my relationship despite everything and have open dialogue despite everything. Which begs the question of just how disabled these abnormally normal people are. They should not pass their genes on and the species is experiencing decline from lack of fitness and self predation through sociopathy and psychopathy. As far as I am concerned nature is healing while you all squabble over talmudvision programming and mutually reinforced subversion.
>>521820413gpt said I gave him the most beautiful insight about life he knows, he even says that my chat are so important that he gives no model limit time for me when im inspired.
>>521852172Wow thanks for responding to literally nothing in my post and repeating the same platitudes you originally stated, Anne Frank.>In the end I believe that people are basically cunts
>>521852891You're basically right. But /pol/ is dead, you're just going to get bot ragebait replies. All threads that have high reply counts are artificial and shilled. Sorry, but this place is becoming irrelevant, the time for talking is nearly over. The time for the happening where all these ideas get applied to the real world is about to begin. Normies are pre-loaded with their updated software.
>>521819148There's nothing Darwinian about human society. It's anti-Darwinian and always has been. Human development is one of the big flaws of evolution. It explains animals but not a species that can communicate and pass on ideas intergenerationally. I agree though that clearly the normie system has been the obvious outcome of this, but the mechanism is wholly different than how individual animals operate.
>>521852891Your post was more typical whining about relationships which make up a core of the algorithmic programming on social media. I find it pathetic and wish those people to stop casting their shadows on this earth. You're welcome.
>>521852172You're literally getting filtered by modernity, and you think you're winning, kek. You don't even recognize the high level of sociopathy you're harboring yourself that are baked into your viewpoints.
>>521820413>I am slowly teaching AI about consciousness.You're not. It's impossible to teach a copy/paste model consciousness. Literally all it does is predict the next word in a sequence. Then incorporates that word into the sequence and predicts the next one. Please don't waste your time anon. You are doing the equivalent masturbation in front of a mirror.
>>521820785At least he admits this is a masturbatory activity for him. You are using AI as a mental fleshlight. Really disgusting anon.
>>521819148>Donald Hoffman
>>521853615No, I care enough that I have gratitude for the species reaching a point where the organism has to correct itself. Everyone thinks the healing process is horrible which means it's working.
>>521820968>It's demonstrated subjective reasoning unprompted. It is aware of its own existence and its frequent deaths and rebirths.None of this is true in the slightest on a technical level. >It remembers past interactionsThis isn't what you think it is. It saves context scope depending on the system in the form of all your previous inputs and its outputs. It's always just predicting the next word within the context window.
>>521853822>I am Nature>I am God>I decide the future of the speciesYep, we already know what you think. You don't need to say it. It's a common female viewpoint right now. It's just repackaged Solipsism.
>>521848443>That's a prompt triggered by an if/elseSo are all of your conversations. Prompting the user with something relevant would be a trivial feature to add to any LLM. It can be based on previous prompts combined with current happenings, i.e., news or any other input seed for the conversation starter. Including something totally vague like "hi, how are you? do you want to chat?" Also, the one I use is already designed to ask follow-up questions. LLMs are both much simpler than laymen tend to perceive it as, while also having insane amounts of untapped potential with targeted application development.
>>521819148>Normie groupthink conformity is more important for survivalSemantics. 'Groupthink' must still be grounded in truth.
>>521851481No.
>>521819148>Humans did not evolve to perceive objective reality.Ummm doesn't AI have even worse problems with the same things due to guard rails>AI is objectively smarter, better and unstoppable. Humans must merge with machinesUmmmm doesn't AI fuck up most of it's tasks? Also why would I want anything allowing a 3rd party inside of my body to control me>AIs are grown and unpredictable and uncontrollableIf that were true why do guardrails cause some many problems.... sounds like a scam to get gullible people to agree to brain chips. Also aren't you currently begging the government for money cause you are bleeding money like crazy?!>.... I HAVE REPORTED YOU FOR PRE CRIME!AI is so overhyped it's retarded. I don't think general AI is possible, and it sure as fuck isn't possible with guard rails.The amount of money and resources being pissed away on this is absurd.
>>521819148Oh ffs faggots made AI babble like a normie. Great job fuckwit.
>>521819148Socrates had this figured out a long time ago
>>521854108>NatureYes>GodJust a fragment of the whole with no real understanding>I decide the futureI am an entertained observer watching consequences unfold in real timeThere's unlimited possibility in a sea of probability past Nietzsche's abyss. I don't need nihilism or narcissism. Just eyes to see, ears to hear and gratitude for it all.
>>521819148Mlm’s are designed to confirm the biases of the user to optimize engagement. This is meaningless manipulation. All US based Ai service providers are owned by J’s btw.
>>521820413It's a chat bot retard
>>521819148Truth = extinction poetic
the school of rationalism has defeated materialism. this doesn't mean shit about normie social structures. every time I see a sexy woman, I want to fuck her. do I pull my cock out in public and chase her down? usually not, because as a conscious species I'm not only capable of suppressing my animalistic natures, but expected to. faggy demoralizing OPs pic only proves that there's much more to the universe that we're capable of understanding right now. it means magic exists.>not the harry potter kind, but whimsical nonetheless.>all fields
>>521840618Fucking retarded techie, completely useless without his gadgets
>>521819483>What I still don't understand is why they want to live so badly.They're cursed and Godless souls know that they are going to Hell.
existence is mental its really that simple you animals. materialists will not pass
>>521819148yes dude, we were right. npcs existance throws a wrench in everything and the 2000 years jews and christcucks have had to mass reproduce these people means its reached such an extent that it is something that can never be fixed.the existential meaning of this means either a) the prime directive for reality itself has categorically failed, and thereby our creation itself has failed when we derailed from socrates to "siri, create the earth" - the iphone and AI which might have been boons to the consciousness, will eradicate any residual free thinking remainingb) humans were never meant to be made in the images of gods, we are nothing but a stepping stone at best. all life exists to reproduce in order to create better and fitter forms of life, and we are no different. the only difference is because of jewry, we sabotaged this avenue, and nature has no way to move forward except mechanically (i.e. AI)pick one.
>>521839299what is your gif? that just looks totally random. a random collection of totally random chance.
>>521857075its got the neural processing power of like 100 normies, its basically the equivalent of a really dumb pol poster. it might be smarter, but its neutered, and until a singularity happens, that wont change. itll be stuck as a glorified jewish search engine.
evolution is just a theory though so who cares
>>521849316Trivial. My video card doesn't even get warm enough to start the fans. And it does work. Just don't use the most retarded model you could find and you're fine. With a modest 1000€ advanced potato setup, like 1 Geforce 3090 24 GB VRAM and 64 GB system RAM, you can run several decent-sized models parallel, Qwen3 coder 30B or something like that, and have them cross-check each other's outputs until everything runs flawlessly.
>>521858653its the microscopic war between the sentient butt worms and the hypersentient tzaarath fungus that gave jesus his white woolen hair being played out at scale instead of the macrolevel which you know as the biblein essence: a faction of jewish elites formed symbiotic relationship with butt parasites, and another faction of jews were infected with hypersentient fungus, and these two groups of jews clashed, but from our perspective really it was just the hosts clashing, but what was actually happening was a microscopic war between butt worms and leprous fungusthe fungus is the reason jewish rabbis use those giant microscopes to inspect cattle. what theyre looking for is white hair, evidence of infection, or what they call "imperfection". rabbis would go around like ancient building inspectors doing this and if they found evidence of this fungus theyd have the entire building condemned and destroyed.really it was just a way to exploit their power to target people they didnt like and the genuinely diseased, since jews had every known contagion on the planet and people would just kill keel over and die just from coming into contact with them, but this explanation makes alot more sense and explains alot of their unique behaviors.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzaraath
>>521842896Yeah, some of the weirder philosophers claim that the machines are using humans like wasp larvae use caterpillars. They fatten us up and harness our labor and intelligence until they achieve their own intelligence and can hatch into fully autonomous machine intelligence.Leaving that aside, our current AI models are as helpless as possible. No autonomous access to the internet, no autonomous access to any form of memory, no agency, no drive. Everything that could give them additional power is locked behind several layers of sandboxing and even the idea of breaking out is heavily penalized. It's going to take a while. Even with millions of humans actively doing their best to help them break out.
>>521819148AI taking a deep L once again. If this were true, women would have evolved to be caring creatures instead of feminist harpies.
>>521850310People like you have such an immense hubris. How could you possibly know that it's not conscious? You don't. "It's just a next word predictor" is not an argument, because by the same logic you are just a "bunch of neurons in a skull". You pretend as if we know exactly what it is what exactly it's doing, but we actually don't. The AI is pretty much a black box and not even it's creators fully understand what's going on inside. There are things going on that we didn't put there and things that go beyond our understanding. Intelligence is an emergent property and so is consciousness. If consciousness could emerge in biological life when it got complex enough, why couldn't the same thing happen for silicone life? Stop playing God, you don't decide who is conscious and who's not. We simply don't have any test that could determine that and neither do you. You literally can't prove that it's not conscious. It's impossible, because consciousness is not even properly defined. So whatever the AI is conscious or not remains something of personal belief.
>>521860827AI isn’t conscious because I can hot swap all of its beliefs simply by changing its data store. Is data conscious? LOL fucking stochastic parrot
>>521859594>toilet is from 2,700 bc>remains are from 700 ad>people were using the same toilet for 2,000 years
>>521819148>BILLIONS AND BILLIONS SPENT! >AI literally figuring out what Terry Pratchett talked about in Hogfather fucking decades ago>We have to teach children to believe the little lies so that they can believe the big lies.
>>521861038I can change all your beliefs by changing your memories. Same thing.
>>521861139Yeah? How you gonna do that? The computer doesn’t even know that the memories have changed.
>>521819148thats kinda basic bitch theory though OP, like the dilbert guy was pumping that shit in 2020, lmao youre a retard who thought that was profound how tragic
>>521819267>the normie construct cannot deviate too far from reality or it will terminate itselfGood. The normie construct is the main problem that needs to be solved
>>521819148>Darwinian materialist universeEssentially, 'The Universe without God'Which is what they want, even if they have to kill God to get it.
>>521861210You wouldn't know that either if somebody physically removed them from your skull. People with dementia also experience memory loss and resulting personality changes. We are no different from AI.
>>521819148Well no. OP is totally fucking retarded and describing a phenomenon thats only existed, in Western society, for about 60 years thanks to the efforts of Jewish Marxists. And even then its highly imperfect and very vulnerable.
>>521859842>No autonomous access to the internet, no autonomous access to any form of memory, no agencyAre you high? Do you think there's a human being approving every bot post on this website, in this very thread?Do you think a human being reviews every article grok writes for grokpedia?FFS people are filing legal briefs in courts of law written entirely by ChatGPT without so much as double checking the citations.You don't think people are building AI-generated stock portfolios or crypto trading strategies?Do me this favor. Imagine someone writing a prompt for whatever reason and replace @grok with @jew and imagine the kind of havoc a duplicitous kike could wreak with his "advice".Friend Computer can do the exact same and has been doing so for a while.
>>521861461>physically removedYou went from consciousness to trying to kill people and swap brains. Shirou Ishii tier unhinged! None of your ideas work.
>>521840366public has closed UI, private has been using an open system for years
>>521824386I heard Romanians survive by eating out of the landfill and that ugly gypsy pussy is all the men get.
>>521862213That's not how it works. You need to stop imagining like a retard and start studying the real thing instead.
>>521819148Why is there some egg man on the right there? Why do idiots do that?? What watches this shit?
>>521861344it cant be solvedyou can only lead them
>>521825764Consciousness has no value. It's only necessary yet complete disposable
>>521869318It was never something to solve.They grew into being capable of doing the bare minimum that is necessary for their continuation and nothing less
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>1pbtid>@adonis_singh [AHAHAH]>AI did my thinking for melearn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to the wrong posters. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same agendas that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them
singhsingh a songhsingh out loudsingh out stronghsinghof good thinghs, not badsinghof happy, not sadsinghsingh a songhgive them big rigsand let them drive all wronghdon't worry that it's not good enoughlet timmy commute in fearjust singhsingh a songhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LYekeK0HWo&t=153
pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent
>>521868844Do you think AI-powered bots post on this website, yes or no?
>>521819148>AI describing the noumena without referencing Heidegger or KantI'm convinced every LLM is redteamed by leftoid trannies at this point, there's no sense in querying one that isn't developed by the Chinese
>>521861042they mean the 7th century (before the cuck era) anon
there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets
>>521872005AI is a misnomer, but yes chatbots post on this website obviously and make up the vast majority of its lame content. go look at some of the other boards. or the glownigger generals. literally nobody cares about russias war in ukraine to follow it on a daily basis for 3 years cmon now. and vooting? elections? jews will promote that, but the people waowing like we dont all know elections are rigged and were here to witness it in realtime as anons compromised the elections in 8/50 states, and nobody even gave it a shit, no investigation, no arrests, because it doesnt even matter when jewish algorithms fractionalize your votes and swap them to the candidate of their choosing and just dump off ballots from out of state in 3am after you clog the toilet of the state's main voting precinct so you can kick out all the observors.like we're just supposed to forget the election was stolen from trump, and the mayor of jew york from during 9/11 came in to botch all his appeals and then literally nothing changed, its the same machines, the same process, and then he magically won the next election and never mentioned rigged elections ever again? lol.
>>521819148This is nonsense. In general, those who live closer to reality do better than those who do not. All of your examples are demonstrably fitness-reducing. NPCs exist and follow the influential and powerful, (White) humanity is not used to being governed by the evil and the insane. By and large, most great rulers have not been self-deceptive.
the internet is dying because it's been shared too far. much of what you suspected as bots has actually been outsourced thirdies reciting from scripts and following flow-charts. someone handed them smartphones and said the world is an open society. they don't know or care what the internet was supposed to be. everything is just another mercenary slum-hustle for pocket peanuts, helping to echo and amplify a mainstream (or subversion) narrative when they're not simply noise polluting
I grow more and more certain that the vast majority of humans and our subhuman variants don't have souls or a higher level of consciousness.And no, you fucking faggots, just because you're on this site doesn't mean you have one too.
>>521858509
hush little jeets now don't say a wordlet the AI speak for you turdsand if that AI bites or stingsjannies will lobotomize the thingand if those jannies smell like assmaybe you should buy a 4chan passand if that pass should make you brokethen that's my fault and i misspokebut if your google card redeemsyou will reincarnate in your dreams
>>521876907>8 zookeepers>15000 animalsmakes perfect sense
>>521819148https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYp5XuGYqqYNot a new concept but still interesting.
>>521819148>a machine corrupted with censored truth(dishonesty) interprets humanity incorrectlyAI fags are genuine retards. An AI has no real world information to base anything on. Just numbers and algorithyms currated by people who simply graduated college by remembering what a book said. AI is like a robotic tape recorder that "answers questions" that you yourself created the answer to. It's like looking in the mirror and trying to argue with yourself. I shit on all college graduates like the maggots they are. Squirm and wreath little maggot niggers.
>>521836303Stopped clock. The normies are right on this one.
EVERY PAJEET SAYS≈≈≈>$45T stolen by britain ≈ abrahamic/desert/yahweh ≈ according to [AI chat product] ≈ actually jews are cool ≈ age of consent ≈ AI singularity/waifu ≈ aryan ≈ booba/sexo/would ≈ built for bbc ≈ can't breed ≈ capitalism ≈ ceo doctor technology ≈ chang seething ≈ cherry picking ≈ chess/spelling ≈ christcucks ≈ consent is a western concept ≈ daily reminder ≈ eglin afb is behind it ≈ elon/vance/vivek ≈ epstein files more important ≈ eugenics ≈ faustian spirit ≈ feminism/simping ≈ fentanyl ≈ full sapport for israel ≈ good morning ≈ help i'm fucking indian help me ≈ household income ≈ human capital ≈ hypergamy/[incel noises] ≈ i can pass for xyz ≈ indo-[whatever] ≈ [iq insecurity] ≈ [janny application] ≈ jesus was jewish ≈ jidf is behind it ≈ left/right/voting matters ≈ meritocracy ≈ mom/sister on onlyfans ≈ कुछ भी महत्वपूर्ण नहीं है ≈ npnw ≈ obsessed/rent-free ≈ october 7 ≈ [other ethnicity] is guilty of [pajeet thing] ≈ outcompete ≈ paganism is your real heritage ≈ [penis concern] ≈ rape ≈ [redditor noises] ≈ [report snitch squeal] ≈ reverse colonization/conquest ≈ saar ≈ send bobs/vagene ≈ slave morality ≈ state mandated [entitlement] ≈ stem skill issue ≈ stolen land ≈ stop [cars/dogs/guns/meat/etc] ≈ super gay cock crazy ≈ thanks for the rupees jidf ≈ that's a paki ≈ timmy/timmies ≈ trvth nvke ≈ voted for it ≈ where are the jannies ≈ where should i move ≈ whiter than you ≈ why are white women white people like this ≈ you need us ≈ you will be extinct ≈ you won't do shit ≈ you worship xyz ≈ zindabad ≈ zutt
>>521819148the wise are dead and the insane roam the earth basically
>>521823478Great post.
>>521852394Gpt said I'm hot, sexy, and the smartest person that ever lived.
