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>did prenatal dna testing and found out my baby is likely going to be severely mentally disabled
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>>521853621
just like dad
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>>521853621
abort it
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the jew doctor told you that because you are white

abortion should only be legal for kikes, niggers, and beaners
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>>521853752
amniocentesis confirmed it. our doctors aren't jewish
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>>521853621
How likely?
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kill the baby, you dont want a kid who cant survive by himself in this world and its unfair burden to take care of a child for rest of his life.

Raising a retard baby is unfair on both parents and kids.
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>>521853621
Its ok anon they should fit in fine more than half the world is severely mentally disabled or worse.
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>>521853621
Fucking abort it and try again. That's your life gone.
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>>521853621
Likely? Or is that a nice way of saying definitely?
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the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
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>>521853621
reminder that doctors say this all the time to get whites to abort their kids
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It's not worth the monumental amount of effort it's going to take to raise it. Don't fall for the cope you see online by other people who didn't abort.
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>>521853796
Test it again and abort it if it comes the same, better to spare the retard than make it suffer all his life
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>>521853621
>my baby is likely going to be severely mentally disabled
I could tell by your flag
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>>521853806
More likely than not. It's a complex mutation called unbalanced autosome translocation
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>>521853621
larp
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>>521853621
kill it and try again. Making babies is free
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>>521853963
fucking based lmao
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>>521853621
I have a nephew who is retarded. Kid is 12 and still wears diapers. I'm for the most part pro-life but im not a religious tard. That kid will never have a meaningful life and you will be saddled down dealing with a drooling brain dead burden that wont be able to wipe his own ass until you die. Do the right thing and push your girl down some stairs. Metaphorically of course.
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>>521853735
>>521853831
I don't want me and my wife to go to hell though
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>>521853621
Abort and try again
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>>521853621
Genuinely, I'm very sorry man. I'll pray for your comfort and the health of your unborn. God bless you, and don't listen to classless trolls with no kids. Was my worst fear when the wife was pregnant.
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>>521854137
Well then you can live hell on earth. Your choice
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Based! Hertz donut???
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>>521853621
Travel to Spain asap (make calls and read though), they abort down babies
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>>521854137
its not real nigger, looking after a retarded kid for the rest of your life is worse than hell cause its real.
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>>521854137
Oh ffs, get your head off that Jewish Christcuck bullshit
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>>521853621
Doctors get that stuff wrong all the time.
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Introduce him to 4chan as early as you can. It’s the only place he will feel at home.
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>>521853621
If you can only love healthy children, then you can't love at all.
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>>521853831
Lies. I won't blog post but life is fantastic. Healthy kids can't support themselves now.
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>>521853621
What kind of disorder are we talking here, brother? In all honesty depending on the disorder you're either looking an awesome golden retriever with 5x the lifespan who loves you more than any dog could, or a physically violent monster who would sooner punch his mom in the face and shit his pants than tell you he's angry because you didn't put an even number of dino-nuggies on his plate. All hope is not lost, bro. Not yet. All I've ever heard from parents is raising a tard-baby is way more rewarding than they ever thought possible, after you get over the whole being a genetic dead end thing.
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>>521853621
>Believing doctors can tell the future
Never do this OP. One of the biggest learning curves in adulthood is realizing institutions and authoritative entities are not as infallible or competent as you think they are.

For example, Trisomy 21 is what causes down syndrome. It's where every cell in the body has two copies of chromosome 21 instead of one. You could do a prenatal DNA test and find the duplicated chromosome, sure. But does this mean the baby will have down's syndrome? No.

Because there exists people with Trisomy 21 who did not develop down's syndrome. They have the extra chromosomes yet none of the mental retardation or abnormal physical features.

Yet if you go into DNA testing thinking that the detection of a gene = disorder/disability confirmed then you will be a fool.

Another example: The Shank-2 gene is the gene responsible for Autism. Yet everyone has the Shank-2 gene. Notice how everyone isn't autistic and only few are?

Doctors are not Gods. I was supposed to die in childbirth, and I lived. I was supposed to not make it past my 5th birthday, yet I am alive three decades later with a clean bill of health. They claimed my disease ALWAYS results in premature death and organ failure by 20's. They told my parents this too, leading them to contemplate possible termination. But they refused to terminate. And they are glad for it, because it turned out medical science did not FULLY understand the disease they once said was always fatal.

Never take doctor's input as synonymous with reality.
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>>521853621
Beat it to death. We will understand.
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>>521853621
Get on HRT and ice your balls if you're going to try to fix the DNA fragmentation
https://youtu.be/lTZUBjGyRJs?t=507
http://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3404923/

As for your kid, you might want to look into Cerebrolysin treatment.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4712290/
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>>521854376
How many downies have you adopted? Have you paid for all their treatment or relied on gibs? Downies cost like half a million a year in hospital bills
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>>521854137
That's OK just raise the tardnugget until he dies of being literally subhuman at 30.
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>>521854041
If you were doing IVF and you screened an embryo before implantation, this find would have resulted in that embryo being discarded. This isn't a funny shaped head that is maybe a problem, this is confirmed.

Abort and reload.
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>>521853719
Sounds like you are talking about your own dad
>just like dad! (With a retard voice)
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>>521854391
My neighbor has two adopted kids with down syndrome who are in their early 40s. They are sweet and polite. Great neighbors.
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>>521853719
Fucking kek. Fpbp
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>>521854572
>>521854455
>>521854310
See >>521853796
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>>521853621
Abort it while you can. Seriously. This is not a joke. Reproduction is immoral. Reproducing a mentally disabled child whose going to be bullied every day and experience a ton of misery is even more so.
Do it. Go into debt if you have to.
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>>521854455
But they will be carriers and their children will likely be downies. Why would you wish that on your children? Women have thousands of eggs for a reason, abort that freak and knock her up again

Hitler would have aborted all of these burdens on the reich
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>>521854455
This is a good point but he said the test was amniocentisis. They don't just do that as a routine screening. The doctors probably noticed some thing abnormal with the development of the fetus and did the test to confirm what they were observing. You're correct though, things aren't usually as bad as they seem, sometimes they're far worse, but most times it turns out okay. Even if his kid is a retard, there's a whole tard rainbow and most of them are probably better than your kid turning out to be a faggot. I mean, I would rather have a kid turn out to be a downsie than a troon.
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>>521854376
If you can only love attractive, kind women, then you can't love at all.
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>>521854376
It's pretty loving to not force a kid into being a disabled tard for his entire life.
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>>521854554
>Downies cost like half a million a year in hospital bills
Doubt, and that's a USA problem
>>521854752
Unironically yes, but live in this case isn't the erotic type of love.
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I had a doctor say my newborn wasn't likely to survive and we should let her go. She's great today and the nicest person I know.
Fuck that doctor.
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>>521853621
Every life is precious :)
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>>521854137
>I'll drag myself and my wife and my retarded child through real hell because the rabbi on a stick might send me to imaginary hell
christcucks are subhuman
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>>521854137
Hell doesn't exist. What are you, 10?
And even if it did exist, you wouldnt go to hell for aborting it. You would go to hell for giving birth to it. The baby never asked to be born. You create him of your own volition, against his consent, into a world full of suffering and pain, where he will find everything difficult, will be constantly bullied and other horrible things. Nobody asks for it. It's not up to you to bring people like that into existence.
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>>521854810
>unironically yes?
But don't you think you're missing the point a bit? Just because pure love should be unconditional doesn't mean you should just accept it when you happen to be with someone that has serious flaws
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>>521854137.
don't worry, it's just yhwh and his mysterious ways. you're being punished for that time you touched your peepee. no amount of sackcloth and ashes will save you now, buster. should've repented while you still had the chance.

christcucks, everyone.
couldn't have happened to a better person.
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>>521853719
OP BTFO
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>>521854822
When can I ship my precious cockroaches and bedbugs into your apartment? Tuesday ok?
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>>521854167
This
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>>521853621
Look up "kung fu abortion clinic"
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>testing

Trusting a jewish test to abort your kid?
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>>521854951
>christcucks, everyone
They all talk a big game so they appear morally righteous on Sunday but once gene editing becomes a common thing this problem will go away overnight.
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>>521853735
SPBP
Do the right thing, nobody deserves that.
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>>521854946
I can't see how one can justify killing off someone just for being disabled. Unless of course you're a darwinist (a faggot).
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>>521853621
M8 as a guy who had to do a late term to save mom do it now.
Your life will suck for a little while but if you dont choose quick youll be miserable for the rest of uour life.
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>>521853621
You know how often doctors are wrong or flat out lie about this shit to encourage abortion? Countless stories of parents being told this shit, only for the kid to be born perfectly normal.
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>>521854906
>Demon claws typed this post
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>>521855122
>the right thing
>murdering someone for being inadequate to your standards
Kek. Good is evil and evil is good.
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>>521855149
Skeletal dysplasia btw.
Just bury him/her proper and move on op
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>>521854731
>But they will be carriers and their children will likely be downies.

You are a carrier of disease, so am I, so is everyone ITT. The only way to avoid carrying genetic DNA sequences that could possibly lead to disease or disorder is to not have any DNA at all.

Genetics ≠ you will get a disease automatically. Most disorders and disease tend to be epigenetic, meaning it's not the gene causing the disease, but the gene's reaction to specific environs. Everyone's genes can mutate and falter.

>>521854744
>Amniocentisis
Still has the flaw of false positives. It's an invasive procedure that extracts amniotic fluid to conduct the genetic screening. Common sense should tell you that amniotic fluid will carry three genetic pools of information: Baby, Mom, Dad. Baby is swimming in the fluid. The fluid is in mom's body. The placenta is built from father's semenal DNA.

Right off the bat it's a cocktail of DNA mixed together. Would you trust an accurate DNA reading from a cocktail of DNA from three individuals?

Imagine if you are a forensic detective. You have the criminal's saliva in a sample. Two other people spit in the saliva. Is the saliva still a reliable sample to analyse? No.
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>>521855139
So do you think all lives are equal?
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>>521853621
Just abort it, it's not worth putting that kid through a life of hell. Don't add to the dysgenic trend of modern society, I'm an autist and I've chosen not to reproduce for this exact reason.
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>>521854167
spoken like someone who has never had to deal with a RETARD
Tolkien and Lewis raped children btw
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>>521853621
dont worry, he will fit right in here.
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>>521855232
I am right and you are wrong, ignorant and stupid. You have no counterargument so you call me a demon (a fictional entity that doesn't exist also).
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>>521854906
Agreed on aborting it, but you're wrong about the other part. The baby is absolutely asking to be born, and it's its karma to have that denied to it, or to be born into a life of hell. Everyone is here because they wanted to be, and they're getting exactly what they need and deserve.
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>>521853621
So kill it but get a second opinion first.
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>>521853621
Sounds like he'll be a fine addition to 4chan, anon
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>>521853621
Obviously. He’s going to be the son of a /pol/chud incel kek
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>>521855369
it's a christcuck, so it actually thinks lives of lesser value(niggers, tards) are worth more.
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>>521855415
I used to help teach them as a younger man actually, which is one of the reasons I said verbatim in my post that I would pray for the health of his unborn AND that my worst fear before my son was born was that he'd come out mangled or retarded. Did you even read my post?
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>>521855369
Yes I do.
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>>521853621
>I'm a /pol/tard, how come my offspring is retarded
>SAVE ME ADOLF
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>>521855599
>lives of lesser value
Not a sound argument. Define value and who or what determines it, and then prove that there are people of lesser value.
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>>521855164
I wish that was the case but the exact same mutation found in the prenatal DNA testing was confirmed by the amniocentesis. its real
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>>521855514
Nobody asks to be born. Whatever theory you have about floating disembodied souls becoming embodied when daddys dick comes in mommys pussy is childish nonsense. Sperm and eggs cannot ask for anything.
Everyone is harmed by being brought into existence. They would be better off had they never been born. If you disagree you have a sunk cost fallacy bias, called Pollyannaism (look it up). You are deluded about your own predicament and that's why you think it's good that you were born. I realize the truth, and that nobody is better off by being born, and that people who reproduce commit an evil immoral act.
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>>521855615
Do you think life has a purpose at all? If so, don't you think there is a way that one life could fulfill that purpose better than another?
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>>521853621
So abort it.
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>>521853621
How old are both of you?
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>>521855794
You have to differentiate between a collective experience of life and each and every person. The individual life of a person has a purpose.
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>be me at a Halloween party
>keep hearing moans and groans
>look around for a Zombie costume
>tell my friends how awesome that zombie moan sounds
>find out its some adult couples adult tard child they had to bring with because they couldn't find a babysitter
Burden for life anon. For LIFE.
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>>521855719
>It's real
You don't know that and neither do the doctors. Just use your common sense, man. Ask yourself a fundamental question:
>Can I tell the future?
If you are sane, you should already know you can't l.
Now ask:
>Can doctors tell the future?
Sane answer is no. They are not fortune tellers. All they have are statistics, analysis, and predictive estimates.

Which sounds all scary and damning and ironclad, but you need to remember: Medical science is always changing, always revising, always getting shit WRONG.
If you use what they tell you as a predictive power or a method of future telling, you will be a fool.
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>>521855706
lol fuck off ben shapiro, tards are a drain on their parents and society. >>521853621
just get an abortion, seriously. you will not only be raising a tard otherwise, but you will be the tard wrangler, that will be your identity. you don't deserve the soul crushing stress, or the social ostracization. abort it and try again.
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Don't kill the babby
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>>521853621
Its a me papa
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>>521855834
I'm 29, she's 31
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>>521853621
Kill it and make a new one
>but i'm a christkike
If this true, kill yourself too, not just the baby
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>>521854561
lmao
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>>521856060
Don't listen to this retarded american. Syndrome of a down is no joke.
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>>521856046
>Just worship moloch, goy!
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>>521856186
Moloch can have all the niggers and retards.
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>>521856186
this but unironically. OP, this type of poster is the sort of thing you will be reduced to if you become the wrangler.
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>>521855904
Do you think there is a collective purpose? Or is it all subjective?
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>>521854389
>Healthy kids can't support themselves now.
That makes raising downy's even less attractive
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>>521853796
Vax status?
How old are you and your wife?
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>>521856116
Even if you abort and try for a new baby it will most likely be the same thing over again. One of you carries the retard gene.
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>>521855706
>and then prove that there are people of lesser value.
easy. the answer is "niggers".

are humans of higher value than animals?
and what is it that makes us more valuable?
is it strength?
no, because there's animals far stronger than us.
is it penis size?
no, there are animals who have dicks 100s of times bigger than yours.
is it speed?
camouflage?
reproduction rate?
no. it is intelligence.

intelligence determines value in this world. and, since niggers and downs lack this, they are considered of less value.
the only exception to this being women, and for the sole reason that Whites need them to survive. that's a certain type of value.
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>>521854041
I like to think of it is if he was to grow up fine, and you were to ask him if his soul and body would be trapped in an undignified retarded mind, what would he want?
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As someone with a severly disabled son I understand that this can be a very tough call to make.

Are we talking mental or physical disability?

We decided not to abort and to give our son a chance at life. He's severely mentally disabled and is maybe at the stage of 6 month year old (at 5 now). We love him the same as our other kids and he's a cheerful kid, but the day-to-day can be extremely challenging when you're dealing with someone who you cannot reason with. He's fortunately not a violent one, though we've met other parents whose disabled child just destroyed their entire house over and over again in fits of anger.

We only get older and it will get harder to take care of him. Not only that, but in the end it will be his sisters that will bear the burden when we pass away.

Think long and hard about it OP. There can be many wonderful moments, even with a disabled child, but there will also be a lot of hardship and difficulty. Your life as you know it will be over.
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>>521853621
May god gives you strength brother
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>>521853621
So sorry, dad. I will pray for you.
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>>521856665
>I will pray for you
Christcucks are mentally ill
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>>521856102
I'd like to straighten out his eyes with a baseball bat.
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>>521856477
We did tests for that as well and there's nothing wrong with our dna
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Move to France and the baby will be average citizen.
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>>521854167
Finally some rational and empathic anon here and not a fucking retarded
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>>521856825
>christcuck
>rational
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>>521855120
>They all talk a big game so they appear morally righteous on Sunday but once gene editing becomes a common thing this problem will go away overnight
>Curing genetic disorders makes Christians hypocrites
Why are the godless like this?
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>>521856588
Good post anon
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>>521856908
Kys americuck
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>>521856186
>yahweh is better than moloch
Same jewish lie
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>>521856588
>but in the end it will be his sisters that will bear the burden when we pass away
Your decision to keep him was extremely selfish, you cunt.
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>>521853621
No worries it can run for congress like AOC.
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>>521856968
hey, you were the one saying that worshipping a jew was somehow "rational".
not sure what you're so upset about.
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>>521857003
for me, its Rabbi Yesus ben Joshua
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>>521854137
>Be me.
>Chilling at the pearly gates.
>Italian shows up, looking for passage to heaven
>Check his file
>Wife's life was horrible
>The lives of three of his children were poor.
>Ask him why.
>"You-a see, the disabled child we refused to send to you immediately for saviour spent their life in agony while draining everything me and my wife had to offer, so we couldn't help our other children....

It's not selfish, anon. You're sparing the fucking child even more so than yourselves.
There are only TWO groups of people who want you to keep that child here.
The first are the people who have retards themselves and, like crabs in a bucket, don't want anyone else reversing that fate for themselves.
The second group are (((Healthcare providers))) who make a fucking FORTUNE on your child's agony.

Make the choice before "murder" closes the only escape hatch for the three of you.
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>>521853621
i could have told you that
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>>521857021
They gave him a chance you retard, maybe they fucked up but it was a big risk either way and they had to choose one
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>>521857153
>They gave him a chance
And they took it from his sisters, you dumb cunt.
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>>521856968

Yeshua sucks
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>>521854137
then wait for it to arrive before you judge. "likely" doesnt mean 100%. why did you even do that prenatal desting? it just causes uneccesary stress for everyone involved including the baby.
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>>521857203
Women can wash their hands of any burden
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>>521856588
My grandparents have a daughter with down syndrome, it is difficult for them and the rest of the family, cause it's like taking care of a child but for 40 years, but we are all happy with her and she is also.

It is a very difficult situation I hope I'd never have to make.

Btw lots of the posts of this thread are disgusting frivolizing with something like that and calling them things like subhuman, a lot of people in here are scumbags and need to die
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>>521856477
Shut up retard jeet. All disabled people I know have healthy siblings. Developmental disabilities are rarely heritable.
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>>521855489
>literal antinatalist
Not everybody is miserable you fucking pathetic piece of shit.
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>>521857230
Sorry i don't speak school shooting
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>>521856825
Nothing makes the demonically possessed chomp at the bit quite like the opportunity to harm the unborn or pressure someone into doing such. Most disgusting thread I've seen in awhile.
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>>521857373
the only ones who need to die are those who continue to put a drain on the system unnecessarily, for selfish or delusional reasons.
good thing christcuckery is bleeding followers like a sieve, we won't have to put up with you types for much longer. the few holdouts will just get nailed to the nearest piece of wood.
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>>521854137
you mean the 11-13 week tests? at this point the fetus hasn't even properly formed yet, it's a bundle of blood vessels and some beginnings of a nervous system, there's no brain even yet.
>>521854455
dunno about chromosomal testing (wouldn't risk it anyway because of what I said above), but they check for abnormalities with US as well. If the neural tube doesn't close properly and you get pic rel for example then there's no point in giving birth
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There are no good answers.
Anyone who pretends the decision is clear cut is a fool.

Yes killing the child is immoral, but letting it live is also immoral though. Parents will not live forever, who will care for the child when they inevitably die?
It's easy to say keep the child when you will not bear the burden.
It's easy to say destroy it, when it's not your soul on the line.
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>>521854137
yeah because the two of you lead squeaky clean lives before this, right?
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convince your wife to abort if all possible, otherwsie pray it's at least a downie, they're innocence and joy personified.
>t paraplegic since birth
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>>521857894
>Yes killing the child is immoral
how so?
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>>521856351
Yes there is a collective purpose, but there's also an individual purpose.
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>>521857085
U don't know who I am nigga
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>>521857894
OP said he is considering letting the kid be born so he doesn't go to hell. That's about the most selfish motive I can think of
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>>521857460
Let go of my arm
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>>521856511
>intelligence determines value in this world
Thats an assertion, but where is the evidence for that? Value in itself is not objectively measurable, that is, in a naturalistic worldview.
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>>521854041
That's why you don't breed with your biological relatives.
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My neighbor's have a mentally disabled teenage daughter. She has a belt around her waist that they buckle themselves to so she can't run away if she gets spooked when they take her for walks
Hispanic family. They clearly love her and are very gentle with her. Besides that you never see them or hear them, they're clearly isolated. It's very sad.
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>>521857953
Actually I want to keep it but she doesn't
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>>521857003
>He thinks there are multiple gods
Saar...
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>>521858171
>That's about the most selfish motive I can think of
Hell is forever anon.
All bets are off when it comes to hell, you're allowed to be selfish with your eternal soul.
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>>521858438
They'll be constantly on guard against someone raping her
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>>521858028
>Why is it immoral to kill a child?
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Do I count as severely mentally disabled if I'm just an incel neet? Like I have a degree and I have had jobs in the past. Its just for the last 3 or 4 years I've had no job and lived with my parents.
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>>521853621
What round of testing? Even the amnio draw is only slightly more accurate than a coin toss. And that can cause a miscarriage. Confirm shit first, initial blood testing is like throwing a tard at a dartboard in the dark.
>t. Old fuck who's wife decided that the baby factory was reopening after the building was demolished.
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>>521858530
Letting someone suffer a life like that to secure entry to Heaven will backfire. That will be near the top of the list on Peter's clipboard
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>>521853621
Karma for being on here. Enjoy the endless stress, debt, and unending sadness you'll endure thanks to that cabbage
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>>521853621
Repeat test and abort if it's confirmed.

You do not want to raise a wailing, drooling retard for the rest of your life. Raising normal children is hard enough, but at least rewarding. Retards never grow out of their dependency towards you. They'll torture your soul forever.
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>>521858074
What is the collective purpose? Is the individual person totally up to each person?
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>>521853719
Kek based mutt
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>>521857953
>convince your wife to abort if all possible
This could be the proverbial banana skin.
I was in OP's position, with 2nd and 3rd opinions in the UK stating, in a nutshell:
>Your child *will* be nonverbal, extremely developmentally disabled and will *likely* demolish your house every time it wakes up while assaulting you both.

My wife still wanted to have the child.
I begged and pleaded with >>521857098
as my rationale but she would not budge.
So I broke up with her after transferring everything I owned to a trusted friend. (just in case...)

Within two weeks, I was told she had gone back to the UK on the white boat.
I contacted her again, telling her if she needed ANYTHING, to just ask, because she was still the woman I loved and I still wanted nothing more than a family with her and her alone - which would not be possible with the child we were told would be born.

Her response, sadly, was to insult me in ways I'm still surprised by over the phone, then proceed start a relationship with another man.
She had three severely disabled children, he ran and she's relying on the state (and the guards now) for subsistence and (and survival) and I've never seen a more miserable person in my life.

I have been asked repeatedly to help, which my current wife has threatened me with divorce if I agree.
I will not agree, because I have four children now with my second wife.
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>>521858150
sure, but that doesn't change the fact that you think worshipping a jew is somehow rational.

>>521858233
>Thats an assertion, but where is the evidence for that?
here, since you're a little slow, let's use a cartoon to explain things to you.
watch FMA for me and then tell me exactly why human transmutation carries such a risk. it's a rather easy philosophical exercise, even a 13 year old watching late-night pop anime would be able to figure it out.
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>>521858651
the question was "why is it immoral to kill a worthless downie child", but your christcuck brain is too busy selecting.
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>>521858694
This desu.
If we are truly made in God's image, then it stands to reason, his thought processes - and those of his angels - are not that far removed from ours.
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>>521856588
Sorry anon.
Praying 4 u and ur wife
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>>521858694
That's why I said there are no good answers and anyone who says there's a clear cut choice is a fool.

On one hand letting people suffer is immoral but then other we open the door to the Canadian situation where doctors offer euthanasia as a treatment for depression.

Ultimately the decision is up to anon's wife.
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>>521859140
>Praying 4 u and ur wife
You should pray for the daughters this piece of shit is burdening as they're the ones who will have to take care of the mong bomb.
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>>521859304
kek
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>>521854137
Hey retard, you think disparaging the design of the White God's works, the machinations of the flesh, by letting a mockery of his divine work be spawned onto this earth willingly and condemn yourself to a life of absolute insufferable torture, a literal reminder of your failure, is somehow going to give you a fucking golden ticket to Heaven?

You will even be rejected by Satan, and kicked off a cliff into the depths of oblivion because NO ONE wants something so vastly stupid and cucked to exist within their presence.

I'm not even a Christian, but even I know that such abominations are a fucking affront to Humanity itself. You may as well break off God's face on a statue and smear it with your own shit. It's the same fucking principle. Or lack thereof.
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>>521859264
no, there's a pretty easy answer, it's abort the downie and save everyone a headache.
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>>521854137
Option 1: you kill the kid before its even conscious and it suffers no pain and you and your wife live happy life

Option 2: live life of hell raising retard kid. kid kills themself or other people by age 25
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>>521858997
>the question was "why is it immoral to kill a worthless downie child", but your christcuck brain is too busy selecting.
Ok, I'll expand since you clearly lack the intellectual capacity to do it yourself.

If it is moral to murder mentally disabled children then it is moral to murder mentally disabled adults. If it is moral to murder mentally disabled adults then the state can murder anyone it declares mentally disabled.

Do you understand now? or is your godless brain to busy seething about Christ?
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>>521853719
Lol.
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>>521853621
abort it then.
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>If it is moral to murder mentally disabled children then it is moral to murder mentally disabled adults. If it is moral to murder mentally disabled adults then the state can murder anyone it declares mentally disabled.

Y E S. IT IS MORAL. YOU STUPID FUCKING SUBHUMAN RETARD-FUCKER.
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abort that shit bro. lil monster ain't even worth it
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>>521853621
>going to be severely mentally disabled
So, just like the father?
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>>521859822
You should be the first murdered, sickfuck
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>>521856588
God bless you and your family. I feel guilty for not marrying a woman as virtuous as yours
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>>521859635
Honestly that's what I would want to do, but I understand the moral dilemma and I sympathize with OP's fears I hesitate to recommend my personal cope which is that God understands the choices of those placed in impossible situations,which is why all soldiers are not eternally damned without possibility of redemption. I don't like arguing for the commission of sin and trying to weasel around pilpuling like a Jew over whether or not killing your mentally retarded child actually counts as murder or self defense.These are conclusions OP must come to on his own.
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>>521853903
>>521853735
>>521854487
>>521855524
>>521859832
Hello Satan.
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>>521853621
Consider it blessing. I'm considering adopting a tard because they're like nature's comedians. It's hard to not chuckle at their quirks and perfectly innocent takes on hot-button issues beyond their grasp. I'm sure in Italy there's all manner of socialist support systems in place to help with the costs associated with being a guardian to a tard. Imagine showcasing your 'gifted' child on a podcast you and your wife set up. Sure it's somewhat exploitative, but I'd suggest that doing so could prove to be a net-positive in a super-serious world? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFz5xx2DXiE
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>>521860013
>The Favela Huezillian nigger-bastard spawn thinks it's opinion has value
>discarded
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>>521860081
>Hello Satan.
newsflash lil bud, god and satan ain't real. sooner u accept that reality the better champ
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>>521859822
>the state can murder anyone it declares mentally disabled.
You would hand this power over to Communists?
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>>521853621
there are people out there who aren't designated, labeled, or diagnosed as mentally disabled, driving busses and air planes. governing countries and corporations. it's fucking obscene

just make sure your kid actually loves you. they may never understand why you're mad or upset about something so treat them with respect and treat them fairly.
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>>521860236
Communists are the first ones to be labeled as retards lmfao.

Ofc not, I am a National Socialist. Not a communist faggot. Or a boomer christfag cuckold.
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>>521853621
Did you check the sex of the baby? It might just be female
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>>521853621
>Literal rerard

runs in your family
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>>521859689
>If it is moral to murder mentally disabled adults then the state can murder anyone it declares mentally disabled.
ah, so your logic boils down to "it's a slippery slope". fair enough, i can see why you'd be confused.

jewish politicians are indeed a problem, and you're correct in that we can't appropriately deal with the issue until they've been genocided from this earth.

however, you fail to realize that it was the jews who created the very system of "keeping every worthless thing alive no matter what". they did it on purpose to help demoralize and weaken our peoples.
it's your inability to see that christianity is a jewish invention that prevents you from reaching the correct conclusions.

a mother dog will kill any of her puppies if she detects something wrong with it. attempts to save these puppies often reveal that the mother was correct in doing so, since these puppies often die or have severe issues.
this behavior is seen almost everywhere in nature. it's a self-correcting system where they collectively prevent bad genes from being recirculated into the pool.
this is also why pre-christain Whites were capable of doing what they could. they believed that only the strong were worthy of the gift of life. all else was thrown off the cliff.

it's just your survival instinct speaking. you know if we returned to a correct system that you would be the one to get thrown from the cliff. but that would be a good thing, no longer would we have to waste our time explaining the most basic concepts of nature to mentally ill retards who were stupid enough to worship a jew on a stick.

any other questions, or did that clear everything up for you?
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>>521853621
Get rid of it now or you’re gonna have a life of problems until you’re gone and tax payers will bear the burden afterward
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>>521860075
>but I understand the moral dilemma
there's no moral dilemma when there's an objectively correct answer.
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>>521853621
Coomers 0
Antinatalists 1
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>>521853621
>tf
>tp
pasta la vista
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>>521854906
This asshole doesn’t understand hell.
He will bring a mentally / physically disabled kid into a brutal world. THAT is the very definition of hell.
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>>521860163
>tips fedora
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>>521857435
>Not everybody is miserable you fucking pathetic piece of shit.
but the parents will be. and the kid will be miserable and fucking pathetic. all because u think abortion is wrong bc of some jew that apparantly existed and said laughable things
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Shit..I have a heel spur and I wouldn’t want to wish constant pain on anyone like that. Imagine knowing your child will be born disabled and still signing them up for this life?!
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>>521860298
>Ofc not, I am a National Socialist. Not a communist faggot
Then you recognize the immorality of devaluing human life to the point that it can be taken arbitrarily by whoever holds power. You're simply being obstinate.
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>>521860081

Intentionally bringing someone into existence only to suffer the entire time they exist is evil. Not bringing them into existence isn't

Btw I noticed how there is never mentally disabled people in christian depictions of heaven, why is that?
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>>521854455
a load of meaningless words.
how about u post the statistics rather than "some people don't"
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>>521860768
>retracts foreskin
oh wait, god told ur parents to mutilate ur dick lol
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>>521860969
Jokes on you I wasnt mutilated.
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>>521854137
> hell
Jewish lies.
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>>521860393
>this is also why pre-christain Whites were capable of doing what they could. they believed that only the strong were worthy of the gift of life. all else was thrown off the cliff.
What a dishonest argument as if the ability to support the weak and disabled was the same a thousand years ago.
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>>521860817
oof.
i've heard tale that heel surgery is actually among the top ten most painful surgeries on the planet.
doesn't make sense, but there must be something unique about the nerves in that area.
sorry to hear that, anon.
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>>521861064
>jokes on you, my parents disobeyed the jewish teachings in which i believe
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>>521860393
Christianity isn't to blame, modernity is.
Christianity is a product of an environment where OP's situation would sort itself out naturally. If the situation is as dire as it seems it's unlikely that the child would survive for very long anyway without the intervention of modern medicine. Cheating death inevitably leads to scenarios like this.
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>>521861095
many cultures still ATTEMPTED to care for the lame, despite not having modern medical capabilities.
check out the code of hammurabi, where they actually specify rights for these peoples, and don't immediately send them to death.
or even the bible speaks of dwarves &etc deserving care (although they're not allowed to approach the temple)

strange that it's always ancient semitic cultures doing this for some reason. and then one day they managed to push the practice on to Whites via christcuckery.
try again.
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>>521861397
>Christianity isn't to blame, modernity is.
the version of modernity that was caused by countless generations of brainwashed christcucks, yes.

>Christianity is a product of an environment where OP's situation would sort itself out naturally. If the situation is as dire as it seems it's unlikely that the child would survive for very long anyway without the intervention of modern medicine. Cheating death inevitably leads to scenarios like this.
wrong. i just corrected finland on this as well.
see: >>521861573
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>>521855764
Bitch-take on life. Each day you're allowed to engage with the active present and be awe in of this world. Instead you worry about abstractions on the internet and whine, mom dad I never asked to be born!! Waaah! It's a sad state to be in and it'll probably take you a while to grow out of, but you will eventually. In the meantime I guess you serve as amusement for those who know better. Your state in life is deserved.
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>>521853831
>you dont want a kid who cant survive by himself in this world and its unfair burden to take care of a child for rest of his life.
no one can survive in this world by themselves. retards tend to be happy go lucky and with the right attitude the parents can also be happy to have a perpetual baby to dote on. finally, not all of them are useless. walmart greeters have always given me a fuzzy feeling inside, and sometimes they run around in the parking lot collecting carts. there is literally nothing wrong with this. killing the most vulnerable is what we as good humans are supposed to be against. and going back to the parental burden, no one forces them to put penis into vagina and cum. a retarded rape baby could be the .000000001% exception, but not just a rape baby or a retard by itself.
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>>521862040
>>521853831
to clarify and add a bit more nuance, another exception to what i wrote would be severe brain damage and deformities to the extent where the child has no control over their limbs. not sure how much of that can be detected though. most of the tards i have personally seen who have no control over their bodies had the umbilical cord around the neck issue. this is vastly different than a downie though, which is most likely what OP is referring to.
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>>521859304
Praying for your soul to reach the Kingdom asshole
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>>521853621
That's to be expected, it's italian
But on a serious note, I'm really sorry to hear it buddy.
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>>521862040
How come you never adopted a child
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>>521853621
>>521853621
>>521853796
>>521853796
>>521853796
Get an abortion.
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>>521862040
>>521862394
>let's make everyone else have to suffer, financially or otherwise
>just to care for a thing with no worth
>it's the moral thing to do, goy

tell me you're a christcuck without telling me you worship a jew.
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>>521853621
Abort.

Hell isn't real, and even if it was, there's no way it's worse than being burdened with a stunted and worthless version of yourself you have to attend to like a retarded pet (because that's what it is) for the rest of your life. If you keep it, you'll trick yourself into thinking you made the right decision at first when it's a baby, because all babies are retarded and you don't know what it'll turn into. By the time you really want to kill it, you'll be a decade too late. You'll hate the way it looks. The deeply fucked up hypersexual and aggressive behaviors it starts to develop along with its adult body. Hearing your dog yelp and not knowing if the retard is trying to pull its tail off again. Hesitating to walk into a room where you know the retard is, because it could be covered in shit or masturbating (or both) and now it's your problem. You don't even try to stop it from masturbating, because it can hurt you now. Why even clean up the shit, when you'll just have to do it tomorrow? You'll grow to resent other parents and their normal children, tortured by the opportunity cost of the years you spent raising whatever this thing is, instead of a normal son or daughter that might one day make you proud. Instead, you're exhausted. Your wife is long dry and you could never have had another child while burdened by this thing anyway. Every scrap you had to give that could have raised a child that would one day help you into old age will instead be spent feeding and attending to the needs of this giant baby who only gets bigger and hungrier and sicker and more expensive as the years tick away. You'll eventually come to resent yourself, too. You'll become a person-shape, hollowed out by the decades spent burdened with a retarded child. You have to kill it NOW, while you can. Shove your wife down the stairs if you need to. Whatever jail time you get is a lighter sentence than what you have in store otherwise.

Don't make the same mistake I made.
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>>521853621
Just like my friend for mit uniwersity (computer science) hes healthy, dont lose hope bro
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>>521853621
>>521853796
>>521854137
Scorn not his simplicity
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>>521859689
>if, then
>if, then
>if, then
A jeet coded this one. Can't even conceptualize an action without trying to extrapolate it to a universal scale in a neat little simulation.
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>>521854041
>unbalanced autosome translocation
Sad situation. If you can't afford to give the kid the care it may require, or rely on programs in your country to give it a decent existence then noping out is a valid choice. I just did some quick research and it seems that the worst case outcomes for unbalanced autosome translocation are worse than what you get with a typical downie. Good luck anon and don't worry about hell. If God is good, he will understand and if not it's a moot point anyway.
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>>521858899
>three tard children with two different men
How does this happen to one person so many times
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>>521854137
>muh Kike on a stick!
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>>521853621
>guys i just happen to be the 1 in 10 million situatuion that totally justifies(it doesn't) the mass murder of millions of innocent healthy babies
I too am in the top 1% for penis length and girth a multimillionaire ceo former navy seal with a harem of young sluts. odd how often people like us constantly end up on /pol/
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>>521864524
retarded Kids are probably like 1 in 250
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>>521854137
holy shit all the demons in the thread that crawled out make you abort the child.
pray to Jesus Christ, he can heal everything.
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>>521864704
>pray to Jesus Christ, he can heal everything.
germans are way too autistic to believe in god
or are u brown
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>>521857581
>the only ones who need to die are those who continue to put a drain on the system unnecessarily
the system is run by people that print your money and laugh at you from their palaces.
you have zero business to discuss about this system you worship because you cant even grasp the basics.
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>>521862902
>Don't make the same mistake I made
Please tell me more
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>>521860932
>a load of meaningless words.
All of your words ITT have been empty.

>how about u post the statistics rather than "some people don't"
And this is why your words are empty, you are not fully rational. Statistics are not a blueprint for reality. The only two types of people who think this aare people with autism & pseudo-intellectuals.

Statistics don't account for causation, secondary causation, remote causation, underlying factors, incidental causation or ripple effect. It also doesn't account for the human effect either, where the individual can steer themselves and their lives in a direction using their own agency to avoid undesired statistical territories.

And that's not even counting the fact that what was statistical fact yesterday is now complete error today. Statistically I had a 80% infant morality rate on me. Statistically that was to be 90% past the age of 10, inching up to 100% as I got older. Even if I was to be a lucky 0.1% who survived, doctors told me I would 100% likely need organ transplants by my thirties.

Nothing has happened, all my vitals remain the same for anyone else. You know why that is? Because medical science is fallible, and they got the entire understanding of the disease and it's statistics WRONG.

They have corrected it in the medical journal now. Guess what? Doctors still rub with old information. Only a few specialists put out the up to date understanding. But most doctors around the world still operate on info from the 90's. (Probably when they received their education and licence to be a doctor).

And they still tell parents their baby will die anyway, off of outdated info.

This happens way more often than society is comfortable to admit.

And you are a fucking midwit if you mindlessly trust statistics, doubly so if you yourself did zero fucking research on it.
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>>521865872
>Statistics are not a blueprint for reality
lol. stopped reading there lil bud
pre natal down syndrome testing is about 99% accurate. ur a lying faggot
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>>521853735
Spbp
/thread
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>>521854137
don't waste your one chance at life babysitting a retard
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>>521866231
>99% accurate
And that accuracy goes out the fucking window if:
>There is Placental Mosaicism, where the DNA sample is compromised from placenta interference.
>The mother herself is a carrier of a pre-existing genetic condition, or received a recent blood transfusion, or has undiagnosed cancer that no one has picked up on
>Low fetal fraction
Where the mother is obese or the pregnancy too early to accurately make a reading
>Contaminated or faulty medical equipment & human error
Which is happening more often in modern times thanks to budget cuts bureaucratic hospital management and hiring migrant doctors from shithole undereducated countries.

That '99%' statistic only works in conditions that are 100% controlled. In real life, there's uncountable and unforeseen variables. This is why the only people who believe statistics at face value are literal autistics who think life works like a linear cartoon.
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>>521853621
You have to abort. You will be the only person who truly cares for it, and when you die it will be left alone and scared.
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>>521853735
This
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>>521853621
>>521853796
That is literally what abortions are for anon. It's not worth it. Your lives WILL be ruined and the kids' too.
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And this is why you don't try to have kids and start a family after the age of 25.. Your kids will be retarded and have problems!
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>>521856116
anon, 31 is pretty old for a women. less than 10% of her eggs remain and who knows how many are actually any good and getting worse and worse every year. She's only a few years away from geriatric. Wtf did you marry an older women? You're a man and still in your twenties baka and you impregnated a girl in her 30s?? Should be the opposite
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>>521867538
You're right, I wish we had started sooner. We only met a few years ago
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>>521853621
he's black?
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>>521863761
Normally I would blame extreme incest but holy fuck, her genes must be utter garbage.

>>521859304
Agreed.

>>521861095
>>521861573
Lame and disabled are the not the same as those born retarded and disfigured. Historically, malformed babies were often abandoned to perish in the woods somewhere. Hell, you even had rape babies often given the same treatment. However this wasn't done to those who later became lame because at that point they USED to be a productive member of the community and you know them. Even cavemen wouldn't abandon the lame to die.

Humans are still animals and not above abandoning subpar offspring in order to better provide for their healthier ones. Just look at the lives that get ruined when one of them is kept alive. It DESTROYS the entire family from the strain. But now we have genetic testing and abortion. Allowing us to resolve the issue early and easily.
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>>521867504
Can't disagree with you.
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>>521867109
>and when you die it will be left alone and scared.
That's what scares my wife
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>>521865338
my previous phrasing included the jews and christcucks responsible for said society.
you would be able to see that if you weren't so busy seething about people calling christcuckery out.
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>>521855514
We were tricked into coming here and now we’re trapped
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>>521862902
My sincere condolences anon. I can tell your a real one.

>>521868326
Use that to your advantage and convince her not to keep it. You can always try again but if its a tard its GG. >>521862902 isn't joking. You can even find videos of parents breaking down or admitting it was a mistake. If they're still deep in denial just keep watching and realizing how hellish their life is.
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>>521867851
OP, all I'm going to tell you lastly is this:

Remember where you are. You are on 4chan /pol/ telling anonymous strangers about your personal life and your dilemma. You have no idea who replies to your thread and you allow anyone to sow seeds into your mind.

And those people are probably going to be age 18 - 25, single or at least unmarried, childless. Many of them with deficiencies themselves, social mental or otherwise, commonly spergs and autists.

These types of inexperienced and immature people always have a fatalistic outlook on life. You can observe this is true because notice this:
>You did not ask for advice in your OP
>You did not ask what to do
And dozens upon dozens of them proceeded to tell you what to do. They cite reasons like:
>Think of the suffering
>Think of your own life getting ruined
>Think of the child's life being hard

Yet these same fatalistic people cling to suffering like a rosary, lamenting their own suffering and bitching about life. Yet they don't have the courage to commit suicide but will tell you to terminate a baby? They didn't sit with you in the doctor's office or the hospital, they don't even know you, yet tell you what to think and how to feel?

Don't be a cuck. Ignore the thread you've made and go be with your family.
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I was pregnant (wanted pregnancy) with a baby who had a chromosomal disorder.
I did not believe it, did not want it to be true, did amniocentris test as well and also the ultrasounds were undeniable with organs in the wrong places, extra parts, and lack of brain hemisphere separation. I was told the baby would die shortly after birth if not in utero.
it was my first pregnancy. we decided to abort. and then we had another who is perfect
The only reason I can say abortion was somewhat of a 'right' choice is because we had another child afterward.
To this day though I still don't know if it was the right choice. I will say that whenever I was actually pregnant, my body and mind were screaming at me that it was the right choice to abort, because pregnancy was physically painful for me which caused me months-long suffering which would make me borderline suicidal if it lasted forever. And I was feeling that the baby would undergo that type of suffering if born so I felt I was sparing the baby by sending the baby to Heaven early.
But I don't actually know because it's possible they wouldn't truly experience suffering and maybe they would have enjoyed life and that I literally murdered/smothered a soul out of existence and that is messed up.
So to this day I somewhat regret my choice and hope that there is an afterlife that the baby was sent to. and I have no real advice for you. only that I kind of understand what you're going through.
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>>521868084
>Lame and disabled are the not the same as those born retarded and disfigured. Historically, malformed babies were often abandoned to perish in the woods somewhere. Hell, you even had rape babies often given the same treatment. However this wasn't done to those who later became lame because at that point they USED to be a productive member of the community and you know them. Even cavemen wouldn't abandon the lame to die.
archaeology says otherwise.
there were many cases of bones dug up where people had clearly congenital conditions.
the Romans were based and did exactly what you just said, i.e. they would pay a dole for those who used to be productive, but couldn't anymore. this was usually due to war injuries.

however, there are still plenty of examples in ancient times where they took care of the congenitally defunct. examples in semitic cultures, i mean. so when I was referring to lame, i meant in all categories, not just wounded vets.

hope this helps.
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>>521853621
>>521853796
Sympathies, Anon. I can understand the antiabortion perspective, because my mother often told me when I was a child that she wishes she'd aborted me, but in a situation where I know the child is going to be disabled I would still ask my girlfriend to abort, and then try again.

Depending on the problem, you might want to do IVF with pre-implantation screening. In my case the genetic problems I have aren't testable and are relatively minor anyway (Reynaud's, and a neurological twitch that started showing up in my 40s).
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>>521866867
>That '99%' statistic only works in conditions that are 100% controlled. In real life, there's uncountable and unforeseen variables
where do u think that 99% statistic came from? wrong. real life
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>>521868883
normally i would tell you to post tits, but i think i'll pass on this one...
gross.
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>>521853719
fpbp
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>>521868980
Small control groups that don't accurately represent humanity as a whole
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you can either abort him or raise him up and love him as he is
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>>521853735
give it love
train it
turn it into the worlds strongest power lifter
retard strength
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>>521853719
fpbp
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>>521868980
>where do u think that 99% statistic came from? wrong. real life
Sorry you're beyond help, you have no clue what you are talking about and no ability to critically think. Also you forgot your meme flag. You were supposed to be LARPing as a Democrat flag remember?
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>>521868842
that's the best part about anonymity. you're right, you have no idea who you're talking to and each argument must be weighed upon its own merits.
so, when we take a look at the thread, you'll find plenty of people giving sound reasoning for why the baby should get yeeted.
and on the other hand, you have a bunch of seething christkikes saying to keep it because they love seeing the White race suffer unnecessarily.

not really hard to see who is in the right here.
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Abortion is murder. All of you telling OP to abort his retarded baby are putting yourselves on the path to Hell.
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>>521868895
Even Christian peasants would get rid of tards anon. It was only later, somewhat in vogue MUCH later in wealthy circles because they could afford it. Most would quietly dispose of the infant because it wasn't worth it. Churches would look the other way and also 'mysteriously' ended up losing disabled infants that were given to their orphanages. Maybe some semites didn't and it varied more in terms of rape babies but you had places like Greece where their women would flat out toss rape babies off cliffs into the sea after birth or the mass aborting after WW2 in soviet occupied territories.

It only recently changed in mass since...oh the 20th century somewhere around because Jews.
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>my critical thinking means that the literal statistics and facts are wrong
lol. provide proof it's wrong
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>>521869375
>>521869697
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>>521868842
Newfag or shill. 4chan alone has been around for over 20 years. You have plenty of faggots who grew up here, even getting married and having kids. They are gonna tell you the same shit. The difference is those oldfaggots understand what it was like and will be far more blunt/honest about it compared to normiefaggots. Why are they going to tell you the exact same shit? Because the TRUTH doesn't change faggot. It doesn't care what you think or how hurt your wee little feefees get. That is why you are gonna get the same answer from the young and old faggots on the chans.

btw the chans were always pro abortion but unlike leftist babykillers they always had an additional question of 'why'. Rape baby? Go ahead. Birth defects. Hell yes. Birth control? Wtf is wrong with you goddamn babykiller.

So go ahead and keep blaming those 'fatalistic' youth, you goddamn shill. There are faggots here who shitposted since before you were ever born.
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>>521853621
This is the only situation where I feel abortion is okay
I have a friend with a severely disabled kid that only came about because they didn't do a proper scan when they were supposed to and it was only discovered after abortion was impossible
It's not a life I would wish on someone
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>>521853621
It’s extremely difficult anon to think about or believe at this time. If you have the kid and raise it to the best of your ability, you will have endless life.
If you just abort the kid, you will become like those women who have abortions, a ruined shell of a human. You will be on your deathbed someday, full of painful regret you cannot change.
Be courageous, make the right choice.
>t. Man who has a kid with a genetic condition. I wouldn’t change him, or what he’s taught me for the world. Because of his teaching, I have lived
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>>521853719
>>521853735
My fellow Americans
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>>521853719
kek
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>>521870541
>t. jew
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>>521854137
Doesn’t exist mate
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>>521853621
in other words, your kid will be Italian.
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>>521854137
You're going to go through hell raising a retarded kid
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>>521854137
Enjoy living hell then.
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>>521869980
>Newfag or shill
Neither. I've been here since 2006, I came here because of the Habbo raids. My proof is "A master is out" & "His name was Robert Paulson" and "Dial Soap". Oldfags will know.

You are not an oldfag, that's why you reference them from a third person perspective "They are gonna tell you the same shit". You haven't a fucking clue.

>The chans were always pro abortion
You're wrong. The 'chans' (stop calling it like that, you sound like a tripfag) did not care either way. No one cared about pro abortion or anti abortion. Most of it was entirely edgy satire, if you announced to 4chan back in '06 you were gonna be a dad, people would tell you to an hero or kill your wife and kid and post a pic + timestamp + shoe in your head + sharpie in dead wife's pooper. It was insincere satire and shit posting. Poe's law kicked in, and retards like you took the satire seriously.
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>>521869432
>Anon must fall on his sword and accept that his life is over because something something mysterious ways.
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>>521853735
Exactly. If I found out I was going to be born retarded, I wouldn't even bother living. Give me 100% stating stats.


And also, if the kid comes out okay and he doc is wrong, don't vaccinated them for anything.
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>>521853621
Jesus, I'm sorry man. I wish I could tell you what to do, but in truth this is my biggest fear as well. I like to tell myself aborting would be for the best, but I'm not sure I would be able do go through with it.
From the bottom of my heart, I wish you all the best, however you'll decide.
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>>521853621
This is a really sad situation, and I feel your pain. But you have to abort. Everyone's lives will be better, and if your wife does not want it, I don't think there is much you can or should do to dissuade her. It's inside her, after all. I'm sorry and I hope you can find peace afterwards.
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>>521870472
Beautifully said. I have one too, he's perfect.
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>>521862902
that sounds like a fate worse than death
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>>521853719
FPBP!
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>>521868883
it's a miracle that someone as retarded as you did the right thing at least
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>>521862902
>Hell isn't real, and even if it was, there's no way it's worse than being burdened with a stunted and worthless version of yourself
wanna bet?
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>>521871175
>he's perfect
you know, apart from the crippling genetic disorder.
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>>521869500
This, nunneries had mass graves where they threw the retarded kids, recently they found 796 remains in a septic tank in Ireland. If you actually read the bible, killing can be justified under some circumstances.
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>>521862902
One of the best posts I've read on this site
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>>521853735
This. Fuck christcucks, if we follow them the world will be full of niggers and retards.
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>>521868883
post picture of haunted vagene plz plz plz
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>>521854137
You're already going to hell by being on this site retard
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>>521854167
That picture AI?
I like it.
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>>521871568
Yup. They later tried to blame it on genocide, human trafficking, and other BS but refused to do DNA results for...reasons. You want to know the truth? DNA test them.

There is a reason why there is a suspicious lack of retards/born cripples who never grew up in orphanages and never went to assisted living facilities when grown, despite being taken to an orphanage where the problem was dumped on them because the parents didn't have the heart to do it themselves.

Where did they all go huh? They didn't have DNA testing back then to know ahead of time...

It was strictly a rich people thing for showing off how 'virtuous' and kind hearted they were. When it rarely did happen. They pay out the ass to establish special facilities for showing off and bragging about it. Everyone else quietly dealt with it via other means.

>>521870944
Thanks for proving my point. Jew. Moving goal posts and avoiding the topic of Truth.
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>>521871539
>you know, apart from the crippling genetic disorder.

What's funny is I've seen a local down syndrome guy working part time at a grocery store, shaking a lot of hands, getting a lot of smiles and jovial and warm greetings from the locals, he's something of a town mascot, people enjoy him.

And it's funny because a large swathe of people on here who have no genetic disorders at all besides a sperg diagnosis do nothing all day, unemployed, and have no friends and no one is excited to see them or be with them IRL. A fucking downie mogs a good chunk of losers on here. A downie has more common sense, doesn't waste their time shit posting or getting angry over .jpgs or blackpilling themselves.

If you ask me the wrong people in life get aborted. There are many people alive right now who should not have been born
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>>521853719
LUL
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>>521865821
… his long, incredibly detailed post wasn’t enough for you?
It’s a harsh and sad case, but my take is also, ABORT IT. Kill the baby, try again. It’s sad and painful but understandable and probably even for the best in this case. Its consciousness’ll just reincarnate again elsewhere, probably, as some other baby.
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>>521853621
Hey at least you know it's yours.
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>2 posts

>"don't have kids, goy! What if they turn out bad? Be scared, slave!"

Jesus Chrisr the Lord protects us from such evil and you jews will urn in Hell for eternity for rejecting Him as your Lord.
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>>521853621
I’m sorry to hear Anon. Prayers. Pic unrelated.
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>>521869500
kek, those weren't real christians.
anyone who wasn't born yesterday knows that christainity is completely centered around communism and the exaltation/uplifting of the weak.

you're right, there were likely isolated examples of babies left to die due to being malformed. that's because those people were White, despite their christianity.
so, until you can show me where there was a christian society that emphasized racial hygiene via policy in the same way that the spartans did, your point falls flat.
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>>521872274
Don't worry about it. Those people don't have kids and probably never will. They are fatally perfectionistic to the point of autistic levels of pedantry and fussiness. They won't breed, they won't dare to take risks and will receive no rewards, neither in this life or the next. They just exist as NPCs with canned kneejerk reactions and buzzwords.
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>>521853621
Kill him
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>>521872111
>You want to know the truth? DNA test them.
you don't always need DNA to know that the baby was malformed. the bones oftentimes tell the story all on their own
the septic tank example is one of these.

there's zero evidence of any of these orphanages culling dysgenics en masse. there's plenty of cases of said nunneries throwing away excess babies, especially those out of wedlock, but no concrete evidence that they were killed due to being dysgenic. that is, no evidence aside from the headcanon you've adopted to make yourself feel right. but that's not exactly evidence, is it?

christcucks are what causes dysgenics to be kept around, end of story.
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>>521853621
Start over from scratch. New gf/wife, I strongly suggest one that's 18*yo and unvaxxed. Skeet her insides down often.
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>>521853621
Im sorry to hear that anon. Especially when your son grow up and starts posting in reddit
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>>521853621
time for an abortion. sorry, im right wing and everything. the child didn't consent to an abortion anymore than being born retarded. End this now for your child's sake.
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>DO NOT BELIEVE THEM.

>DO NOT ABORT THAT BABY.

>DO NOT VACCINATE.



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