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One of you niggers need to confirm if whatever the fuck language points match.
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1991600409971192209?s=46
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Why only "de facto"? And why would Ukraine agree to this lmao? It will take Russia another 3 years to take the rest of Donetsk oblast.
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>>521869184
So Ukraine would
>Lose a bunch of territory
>Get no security guarantees
>Be forced to reduce it's armed forces
Meaning that in 5 years time when Russia wants round 3 they'll be just as helpless as they are now, maybe moreso. Seems like a pretty shitty deal.
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>>521869510
>And why would Ukraine agree to this lmao
They won't. They will just continue dying and losing more territory day by day until the entire country completely collapses.
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>>521869510
I can only see a copy in Ukrainian?. I don’t know if that’s what it says.

>copes
Nigga Ukraine lost this war. Today or in 2 weeks, zelensky will capitulate
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>>521869927
>>521869928

Listen to zelensky. His tone signals surrender. It’s over
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>>521869184
Fellow good guys, did we win or not?
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>>521869510
>It will take Russia another 3 years to take the rest of Donetsk oblast
The last Ukrainian will be dead before then, and then Russia can walk in and take it all.

The Ukraine war is a white genocide operation.
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>>521869928
>>521870681
Why do you guys all use American VPNs?
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>>521869927
Ukraine cannot fight for another 5 years
thats a lot better deal than your British brain is able to comprehend
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>>521870204
>Listen to zelensky. His tone signals surrender. It’s over
I agree it's over for Ukraine but I'd be a little surprised if Zelenskiy surrenders willingly. He knows that he is a dead man walking-- keeping the war going is the only way he can stay alive.
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>>521869184
Trump really failing at ending this war kek, this nigger jew was supposed to have ended this shit in the first week of this term.
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>>521869927
Don’t start a war you can’t win, retard. You’re lucky you get to still exist.
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>>521869184
OMG is that a twitter post!!!!???
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>>521871082
>Why do you guys all use American VPNs?
I'm in Minnesota fuckhead. Where are you?
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>>521869927
Yeah typically losers get the short end of the stick in war negotiations.
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>>521869184
Good.
>>521869927
Keep delaying negotiations and you will only keep losing more land and lives too.
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>>521871082
so that people will care about their posts. no one cares when a non american posts as theyre just visitors here wanting to interact with the only humans that matter, Americans.
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>>521869927
Yep, and the vast majority of conservatives will masturbate to it when Russia decides to finish Ukraine off in a couple years. It's literally the plan.
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>>521869184
The DMZ should stretch to a few miles outside of Moldova.
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>>521869184
>Russia doesnt veto Gaza takeover
>one day later, Ukraine surrenders
Like clockwork
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already got rejected
cope & seethe, the war will continue
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>>521871144
He has millions stashed away in various locations.
He'll most likely fly to Israel.
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>>521869510
>And why would Ukraine agree to this lmao?
If they don't Russia will claim more oblast and ukraine demographic will collapse. Already happened to Paraguay in the war of triple alianza. Go read a book
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>>521870681
there is still 5 times more dead russians, in pokrovsk even more.
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>>521869927
You know Russia doesn't have to wait 5 years right? They are already buck breaking ukraine
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>>521869927
Surrendering today is better than surrendering tomorrow and the best time to surrender was yesterday. The conditions never get any better by fighting longer.
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>>521871490
According to nafo lore, which obviously is far from an honest source on the matter.
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>>521871144
>billionaire jew personally taking responsibility for his actions
He will just flee to israel and spend the rest of his life grifting as some kind of government in exile while enjoying his gains.
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>>521871180
russia started the war you demented retard.
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Just so everyone is clear, this entire conflict was both bullshit, and avoidable. The entire thing was a waste of time, and got "a million people" killed. NATO had a draft resolution from putin before the invasion in which the end result would be the very same as now.

AT NO POINT did anyone actually believe that Ukraine was going to win. I, and so many others from day one knew how it would end, and that really begs the question of what the fuck the people in charge were thinking.
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>>521869510
Ukraine does not really have any room to argue as they are completely reliant on outside help. Its what happens when you get used as a proxy in a proxy war and lose.
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>>521869184
That's what happens when you lose a war.
Why are people whining about "fairness"?
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>>521871441
>He'll most likely fly to Israel.
I would guess that asylum in the US is his plan. He won't be safe in Israel. This whole affair in Ukraine is essentially a war among Jewish robber barons and Zelenskiy is not the big Jew in the room. Kolomoisky will almost certainly attempt to have him killed at the first opportunity.
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>>521871619
according to video material. and russians also kill them selves 100 times more
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>>521869184
Not my problem.
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>>521871621
>He will just flee to israel
See:
>>521871738
>This whole affair in Ukraine is essentially a war among Jewish robber barons and Zelenskiy is not the big Jew in the room. Kolomoisky will almost certainly attempt to have him killed at the first opportunity.
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>>521871684
Because their world view comes from superhero movies and onions wars
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>>521871490
>NATO meme flag
>wartime propaganda
I only consider the corps exchanges.
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>>521871650
>what is 2014
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>>521871650
>What is the Minsk agreement.
We also know about the biolabs.
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>>521871795
Expecting the "good guys" to suddenly pull off a victory, against all odds?
Do they still want to fight "to the last Ukrainian", and then lose all the land anyway?
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>>521870511
No, because Trump didn't get the minerals.

We did, however, win in the sense that this war bankrupting the Western world to enrich Jewish pedophiles of Russian origin contributed to the explosion of antisemitism.
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>>521871547
wtf a reasonable, not perma seething finn
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>>521872480
That really surprised me too.
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>>521871547
Why hasn't the russia surrendered yet then? Was forever war and economic collapse always in the cards?
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>>521871180
>>521871547
this
>>521871336
>conservatives
or just normal people who never gave a fuck about ukraine and are horrified to see their leaders trying to get them more and more involved in somebody else's problem for no material benefit

tax money, equipment, and soldiers being sent abroad for absolutely no good purpose
the lesson of the last two great wars is
>STAY THE FUCK OUT OF OTHER NATION'S SPATS
and to let them vanquish quietly and to try and strike peace with whoever comes out victorious, otherwise your nation ends up flooded with shitskins

unless and until there is a material benefit to me priced at around $1M, I refuse to give a shit about them and their problems
fuck you pay me
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>>521869927
Well considering the alternative, which is TUD, I think it's a rather good deal.
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>>521871823
how many zigger storages you want
>>521871921
yeah the bio engineered fox die that targets russians but not ukrainians? they arent the same after all huh?
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>>521871514
>we're winning really well
>ok time to make a deal with us pls
lmao i fucking love 4chan slavniggers & tankies truely the dipshits of the internet.
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>>521869928
This, and only a retard doesn't understand.
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>>521869184
Looks good to me. Ship it.
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>>521871650
>I dont know anything about euromaidan
Why are you posting here then retarded memeflag faggot?
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>>521871823
then you are fucking retard
you do know ukraine pays for bodies and russia has to pay families for bodies.
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>>521869927
don't let the aids niggers get to you, your comment upsets them which means you're right.
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>>521873250
>memeflag
not worth our time, NAFO /k/cuck
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>>521869184
one thing you can never make jew do is; return a loan and consnede
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>>521871823
this good boy right here takes care of russian corpses, putin should give him a medal
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>>521873417
Brown and subhuman like the entire West saar, you think you golems are different ? delusional mutts...
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>>521873370
the one that actually managed to make russian puppet president flee back to moscow? how did cia pull that one out so well.
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>>521873250
One of the biggest mistakes you fuck head propagandists made was spamming social media with these gore vids, paired with your democide of ethnic Europeans at attack on Christianity, you will never have a competent military again. I hope these ethnic hordes eat you alive when the economy really shits the bed with your failed kike schemes.
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>>521873459
>monkey
>worthy opinion on russia
choose one
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>>521873531
Why the fuck is this monkey talking?
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>>521873547
dont worry those videos arent going anywhere so future russians can see their shit show as well.
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>>521871650
Your jew coup failed. Nuland LOST, McCain LOST, Soros LOST.
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>>521869184
the nato/us/uk approved '10pt ukrainian peace plan":

"Russia can sit with its hands folded quietly, while nato and ukraine (the winners) decide its fate,
and when decided, Russia will accept the decision, bow, and exit the room in silence"
and now, for the decision:
>ceasefire time-out so ukraine and nato can catch their breath and re-arm
>restoration of ukraine to 1991 borders
>Putin is arrested, tried, then executed at the hague for 'war crimes'
>Russia is de-militarized, balkanized and divided into small adminstrative zones under nato command
>assets of former Russian federation are redistributed across europe as reparations
>Russian people are collectively punished for 'voting for Putin"
>ukraine joins nato
>ukraine gets nukes
this^ is the literal, actual (((10 step plan for peace))) ukraine and nato have stated are THE STARTING POINT for even considering the first word of negotiation with Russia (which is currently still "illegal" under ukrop law)

the ukraine can literally go ass fuck itself
thats its future
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>>521873789
How's the russian economy going btw? Recession? Largest Private company going under? Selling off gold reserves?
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>>521873789
wasent it Yanukowitch that fled and there is Zelensky behind the wheel now, you double thinking orc retard
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>>521873696
Let me ask this assuming you're not just (You) farming here. Whats gonna happen when Ukraine does surrender? You guys still gonna be flooding the place with bullshit, or is Venezuela drone footage gonna be the hot new thing?
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>>521869510
>And why would ukraine agree to this lmao?

if they dont every last ukrainian male will be killed, and the lights and heat will never come back on in ukraine again
simple fucking math dumb fucking /k/ike
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>>521869510
>why would Ukraine agree to this lmao? It will take Russia another 3 years to take the rest of Donetsk oblast.
3 years and how many dead/mutilated Ukrainians? How many more billions in debt? If you are losing a war, even at a slow attrition rate, you give up some unoccupied territory to get peace.
>>521869927
GayTO will secretly arm Ukraine to the teeth anyway and Russia knows that.
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>>521873532
Yes that one. So you know it was a CIA op.
Next time when you try to use a nation as a tool to make your enemy suffer or some shit, know that it is called power tripping and it fails as such.
Short term achievement, long term blunder and wasted so many lives. CIA has blood in its hands.
Does it really not remind you of what happened in middle east? You have a region with relative stability, you go meddle in with some psyopy self-grandstanding self-justified made up reason after some smear campaigns. And then destabilize the region, go interfere and lose?
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>>521871198
Kek
It hasn't yet dawned on Nigel that Ukraine lost
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>>521869184
Why did Ukraine ever give up its nukes?
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>>521869927
>>521869510
Trump is chabad lunvich, did anyone actually expect anything different?
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>>521873907
im pretty sure ukraine would die way more gladly than surrender to be russian whore. they joining nato after war would be easiest to everybody and monkey can suck his banana
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At some point people will have to admit that Nietzche was always correct. There's just power, that's it. EU isn't willing to yield it or else they already would have. Yes Russians don't get accurate info, but that's not going to change. The meat waves will just continue until Ukraine doesn't exist anymore. Or putin dies and the winds change for a while. I wonder how many more big important meetings the EU will have about this.
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>>521869927
>Get no security guarantees
American forces would mean they're not allowed to invade without drawing the US directly in, but not guarantee the rest of the world's involvement
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>>521869927
Maybe they should have made a peace deal years ago when Russia had taken less land
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>>521872750
>Why hasn't the russia surrendered yet then?
Because they are winning and Ukraine is on the verge of collapse. Duh.
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>>521874339
Aren't you forgetting someone to ask?
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>>521874035
nah russia is just fat drunk who cant let his ex wife go, all she needed was little push. and she aint going back.
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>>521874246
Slava Ukraini my proud sister!
But why are you hiding though?
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>>521874339
russia controls less land now than 3 years ago
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>>521874396
how many weeks they need to take pokrovsk area? its been over year now
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>>521874303
They are asking for Ukrainian neutrality from the beginning.
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>>521874485
And ukraine less men.
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>>521874396
You ziggers have said Ukraine is about to collapse for four years now.
Why would anyone believe you now while the russia's war economy is already showing early signs of monetary collapse? The entire russian MIC is hemmoraging employees and orders have dropped for next year. Zigger enrollment in the military no longer matches losses in Ukraine and enlistment bonuses have declined from their peak in early 2025.

Its over. Monke is out of time, money and manpower.
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>>521869927
Wow, well done, amazing piece of strategy, Russia is now armed to the teeth, Europe is absolutely on its arse and Ukraine is completely fucked. Great bit of business dickheads
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>>521874606
>14:1
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>>521874606
so does russia.
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>>521874623
>You ziggers
calm down, tranny.. you gonna give yourself a hernia
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>>521869927
NATO is worthless without US security guarantees. Ukraine and the USA already established close economic ties. If USA military forces are stationed there, that is the best guarantees in the world. As for territory, they are gone and never coming back. As for future Russian threats, Ukraine fought for and basically bleed Russia almost to death. Russia is doomed. Once the fighting stops, Russia will most likely collapse within a few years from complete economic failure without a war economy to keep it afloat and ensure internal unity. Russia is 100% to collapse with a decade from demographics anyway. Really if Ukraine wants it's territory back, all it has to do is wait a few years and just seize it back unopposed once the Russo Civil War begins and China invades to take Siberia.
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>>521869510
>why would Ukraine agree to this

Why would Ukraine decide? The only important side here is the one sending weapons and money to Ukraine. Why would US send more money for 3 years more only to have the same result at the end, if not worse in form of complete collapse? This is a big win for the west, good timing to cut the costs before complete disaster.
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>>521870681
>The Ukraine war is a white genocide operation.
Rly ? I thought it was about nato expansionism, or all the Ukrainian's being nazis, or some other fucking bullshit, but it turns out it was muh white genocide all along, so there you go lol
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>>521874553
neutrality means nothing after botox midget started to draw "red lines"
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>>521871738
>I would guess that asylum in the US is his plan

He won't be safe here either. He had a job to stop the Russians and he failed. No matter what he'll be in a ditch soon
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>>521874553
Yes the Ukraine coup was planned in the 90's after Yugoslavia
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>>521874246
>surrender to be russian whore
This is exactly what is going to happen, just like the Chechens.
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Can anyone explain to me why so many NAFO troons are so deluded about the lose of men and landmass?
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>>521871450
Paraguay has a history? Wild
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>>521874833
ukraine is not dependent on usa anymore, they just keep flinging drones to russia anyway. russia going to kill more civilians if usa stops support tho
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>>521874527
>take pokrovsk
So Russia is losing because they aren't capturing Ukrainian land fast enough for you? You guys are so fucking dumb. In a war of attrition, the goal is not to hold the maximum amount of land, the goal is to hold the most advantageous positions while you grind your enemy down. Once the Ukrainian army is broken, Russian forces will advance freely all the way to the Dnieper and that will be Ukraine's new eastern border.
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>>521874851
its up to ukies and they have turned one of those countries whos identity is killing russians, and we can thank russia for it.
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>>521871665
>what the fuck the people in charge were thinking
moneymoneymoneymoneymoney
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>>521869927
Yeah, this is the key thing to remember.
Any deal that ends without nato troops on Ukrainian soil in some capacity is a deal that the Russians will break at the first opportunity.
Putin wants to reform the Russian empire.
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>>521875018
I don't understand it at all really. Just reminds me of what Hitler did. Which is ironic because the ukies are supposedly leftover Nazis? Historically it doesn't make sense so it's fake and gay. Russia's chimping out because the CIA swatted them in the balls
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>>521869184
good. done.
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>>521869927
uhh yeah they lost the war
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Ukrainians get nothing.
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>>521874623
>Why would anyone believe you now
You don't have to believe me, you will see for yourself soon enough. Even the mainstream corporate media you unquestioning believe is beginning to accept this.
https://carnegieendowment.org/europe/strategic-europe/2025/11/time-for-europe-to-break-the-bank-on-ukraine
>First sentence: "Ukraine is running out of money."
>Europe is considering confiscating Russian funds to send to Ukraine because they are also running out of money
https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/ukraine-russia-war-loan-europe-5bjqpzz2t
>Former NATO-aligned Prime Minister Yatsenyuk says Ukraine will be out of fund before winter is over
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>>521875160
they are the ones who are attacking retard, and it will take them 10 years at this rate to take even one oblast. and in the end they probably just get part of Ukraine and Ukraine keeps independence. thats like saying annexing outhouse was win because there was vodka inside, but lets not count those 100 russians who died for it and that 1 guy who killed himself for it.
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>>521875018
Its cope. They really cannot let the tax payers know that its all for nothing.
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NATO is going in. The Ukrainians have bungled this war long enough, it's time to drop the hammer.
>But, but. Monke has NUUUKES!!!!
He won't risk it. NATO just needs to push Russia out of the Ukraine. Putin won't use nukes if he's not being threatened with regime change.
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>>521869510
If the US and Germany and the other top spenders stop sending Ukraine money, guns, ammo and so on Ukraine will not survive.
Despite outnumbering the invading russian forces 5 to 1 and having the defense position advantage they failed in repelling Russia.
They only mustered a real counter and even failed at that by increasing their troop advantage to something like 10 to 1 and getting near unlimited western gibs.

How long would they last in the current situation without those gibs?
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>>521874123
Did any other ussr countries get to keep the ussr nukes stationed on their territory?
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>>521875018
People have lost hundreds of thousands of hours, friendships, and other opportunities making this war their whole identity. Don't expect them to give it up that easily.
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>>521869927
Their army will still be larger than it was before the war, and you'll have to pay for it. They don't have enough money for even 10% of their current army.
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>>521875663
why arent your factories pushing out long range weapons allready?
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>>521875576
Good luck getting anyone to put boots on the ground for Ukraine.
Supplying gibs and arms are one thing, sending people off is another entirely.
These people would barely fight for their own countries at this point, let alone a place they couldn't give a single shit about.
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>>521874727
>You ziggers
Feeling personally offended, shitskin?

>>521875444
Lmfao. Europe will sign another 100 billion dollars confiscated rusnig stolen goods to Ukraine and you'll do this same cope next year.

Just kidding, the russia will collapse before you have time to cope about this next year.
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>>521869184
kek
really just doing the nazi thing
svyaz
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>>521875164
>its up to ukies
Exactly. And once they have realized that NATO views them merely as meat for the grinder they will stop supporting the pro-EU leaders in the country and put the pro-Russian factions back in power. Then all the pro-EU figures will be massacred or flee and the most battle-hardened Ukrainians who manage to survive this affair will fight on the side of Russia.
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There is deal to be made, they're all acting like retards.

If Ukraine wants US security guarantees
>The US rapes your resources (You can attempt to negotiate, but you know what the US is like and Trump was right, you're not in a great position).
>You concede everything east of the river
>You never join Nato
>If US security guarantees are cast iron its less of an issue, but surely there is negotiation room for limits on armed forces. They either need the US to fight Russia, or the capability to fight Russia themselves. They can't become another Japan or Germany, they need a legitimate military.

Thats as good as its going to get, unless they go direct to Russia. But Russia is going to want similar things..

Thank God the lunatic lefties in europe have been pushed to the side. The last thing we needed was getting involved in that shit, already wasted billions that is desperately needed in their own countries, and who's paying that back if the US gets Ukraine resources...Europe needs to bail on this Ukraine shit, should never have got involved.
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>>521869928
14:1 according to the most reliable source possible. Trading blood for soil is legitimate and based.
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>>521870681
>The Ukraine war is a white genocide operation.
The Ukraine war is a slavnigger on slavnigger conflict mostly utilizing rural turkic cannon fodder. Where do whites come in other than as arms dealers supplying munitions?
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>>521871650
I was here in 2013/4 NAFO troon, Ukraine started the war
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>>521875911
>the russia will collapse before you have time to cope about this next year.
Lol. Canada is more likely to collapse in the next year than Russia is but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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>>521869510
>And why would Ukraine agree to this lmao?

Because the next offer will be even worse for them
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>>521875828
Show flag fag
Because they don't have the capability.
Russia managed to produce fucking more ammo than NATO combined.
Meanwhile our government is lying their are off about some drones that could never cover the distance they claim.
Meanwhile the british government gets pissed because a boat in international waters does what it is allowed to do, so they send a spy plane over it and shit their pants because the boat uses their own systems to look at the british sly plane back.
This is somehow an attack of the Russians on NATO, but Ukraine blowing up NATO member infrastructure and harming citizens of NATO nations is not.

NATO is a scam and has never done what it supposedly exists for.
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>>521875835
>boots on the ground for Ukraine
That's redundant.
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>>521876070
Before the war, Ukraine had the largest army in Europe after Turkey with something like 400,000 men. Since the war started they have done two rounds of conscription, adding a half million soldiers each time. Does Ukraine have a 1.4 million strong army today? No. What do you think happened to all of those troops? You think they retired to Florida or something? Ukraine has easily suffered over a million casualties already.
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>>521869184
why don't we simply shoot up Russian parliament?

Just pop pop pop, until anyone who voted for the war, either directly, or indirectly by approving a budget that funded the Russian military for any year the war was going on, or any year that equipment used in the war was acquired in, is dead.

for good measure we can kill the judges who have sentence people for "anti-war" crimes. Along with the police officers/ intel ops who investigated, and arrested these "anti-war" people. As well.

Politicians and civil servants that act as enforcement for the state, are valid targets in any war, or post any war.
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>>521875978
thats one reason Ukraine should be let in nato. they need security guarantees.
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>>521876338
>Show flag fag
I'd guess that he's a Uke, given that he doesn't know when to use articles.
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>>521876296
>ukraine made russia send Strelkov and glowies to Donbabwe
Omnipotent omnipresent hyhyl strong!
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>>521869927
It's a great deal because they get to live. The other option is just that they all die.
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>>521876296
by shelling their own land?
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>>521876512
>wtf is troops rotation?
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>>521871823
>3 replies from a seething nafoid
lmao nice job you really set him off
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>>521876664
and that stops russia invading them again how exactly?
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>>521876590
>thats one reason Ukraine should be let in nato. they need security guarantees.
This kind of womanly thinking, devoid of any sort of cost/benefit analysis, is why you guys are losing and will continue to lose. It never even occurs to you to ask why the needs of Ukraine should be considered. What does Ukraine have to offer in return? I swear the only reason Eurotard leaders support this war is because they're stealing just as much money as Zelensky himself.
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>>521876786
according to russia its this.
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>>521874409
Okay to follow your shitty analogy, basically what's happening is Russia's ex wife is also a drunk subtard and killed your grandparents because she got jealous later. In the end you're looking at this picture and seething but basically you did this yourself. You thought you were clever and powerful and had foresight but turns out you dont. Things outside of your control happened and now your grandparents got killed by this guy's ex wife. Good fucking job.
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>>521869184
America is the worst "ally" ever lol.
>>521871144
>He knows that he is a dead man walking
Why?
>>521871292
Why so many ziggers use that meme flag?
>>521871336
Which is weird since they are the same who are always anti commie lol. But hey I guess protecting this christian nation against neo-soviet nazis is different.
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>>521869184
If true that's total garbage.
"Security guarantees" are utterly worthless and everyone knows it.
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>>521876786
>troops rotation
Sure bud whatever you say.
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>>521876911
how about not being aligned with russia? retard.
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>>521869184
you're a de fagto
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>>521876917
killed? said fuck off at most...
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>>521870681
Actually bizarre that you are stupid enough to believed this.
You have no clue about anything lol
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>>521871665
>NATO had a draft resolution from putin before the invasion

I was thinking about that this morning.
All this charade and dog and pony show in the mejah over proposals etc. The Russians are saying the exact same thing as before they even went in.
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>>521875911
sure thing, poojeet
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>>521869510
Ukraine is not in a position to refuse. Zelensky is just a narcissist and you're retarded for worshiping him.
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>>521871198
Just wait until China retakes Russian soil. The Russians will get an even worse deal than this
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>>521876936
>Why?
He's responsible for the deaths of countless Ukrainian men, the dismemberment of their country, AND he still hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars that were supposed to be used for defense. Also his support is so low that even corporate newsmedia is admitting his approval rating stands around 20% at best. Once the Ukrainians realize there is no winning this war, they will naturally look for someone to blame, and naturally they will blame Zelensky.
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>>521874035
>a couple of glowniggers is enough to make pro-russian dictators flee and take over the whole country
>11 years of desert storm on steroids is not enough to take donbass back
Sneed
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>>521875049
lol
lmao
You're pretty fucking stupid. Show flag, retard.
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>>521877223
Doesn't really say much coming from a moron like yourself.
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>>521877257
But you're a complete idiot.
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>>521869184
>draft
They've been drafting for some time now. That's why they need a peace treaty
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>>521877274
>exposed as an idiot
>chimps out
Pottery. You truly are a very stupid person.
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>>521877037
heh, and if zelensky doesn't agree they'll just lose even more, lmao
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>>521877089
I'm aligned with America retard. I don't have a dog in this fight. That's why I can observe it without bias and recognize the obvious fact that Ukraine is getting trounced and NATO is powerless to stop it.
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>>521877078
Sneed X2
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>>521877392
But you are a complete idiot with not even the faintest idea of the logistics driving this war. You're just a dime a dozen shit-brained moron who gets all his information from /pol/ and/or partisan news outlets.

The resolution to the conflict isn't nearly as black and white as morons like you think. Again, you will never get your small head around all the details.
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>>521877274
what makes you think ukraine will stop anything? waht have you gave lately they use that much except aa that is 90% just securing civilians.
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>>521877170
>stupid
>moron
>idiot
Nothing but name-calling. You have the rhetorical skills of a child. Go huff some petrol and pass out in the street.
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>>521869184
Is Trump looking for an excuse to ditch this leg of his Peace Prize relay race by cooking up an unsignable surrender treaty?
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>>521877392
they been trying to take 50k people city for year now... how long it takes to take whole oblast and what is the achivement then exactly?
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>>521877666
I'm simply correctly labeling you what you are: an idiot.
Just your writing style and turn of phrase is a dead giveaway that you're unintelligent. Everything you say on geopolitics can be very safely discarded.
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>>521877257
He is just one person though? With your logic they should want the whole parliament and military leadership dead then lol.
>AND he still hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars that were supposed to be used for defense
He still what? If you are meaning he "steal" then idk, did he do that personally? Do you really think he would be so dumb? The man was already rich, seems to be a very risky move to abuse a war against your country to grift money in his situation. Unless it is all a ruse, is he actually working together with Putin to drain Ukraine, is that what you are saying?
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>>521877786
>Russia isnt winning at the speed london demanded
fuck off you /k/ nigger bitch

>>521877612
>what makes you think ukraine will stop anything?
fine, dont stop, and every last ukrainian male will die meanginlessly with no ammo no weapons

ukraine will fold up in 48hrs when nato influence is out
>NO MORE INTEL
and its over instantly

*PIC RELATED*
its you, what you sound like, and what you will end up like
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>>521877668
>Is Trump looking for an excuse to ditch this leg of his Peace Prize relay race by cooking up an unsignable surrender treaty?

its prefectly signable you insufferable nigger /k/ poster

ukraine lost the war in devastating fashion
it is utterly defeated
losers of wars get to make precisely *ZERO* demands
its over
ukraine should be lucky this plan is THAT merciful to them, of which they deserve nothing
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>>521877916
>fuck off you /k/ nigger bitch
why are you posting on a VPN, angry little chimp?
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>>521869927
Dumb nigger. And the UK-France peacekeeping force is allowed in the country, which is already a security guarantee. There's also nothing stopping any other country from signing their own defense pacts with Ukraine if they so wish.
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>>521877985
>its prefectly signable you insufferable nigger /k/ poster
>ukraine lost the war in devastating fashion
>it is utterly defeated
>losers of wars get to make precisely *ZERO* demands
>its over
>ukraine should be lucky this plan is THAT merciful to them, of which they deserve nothing
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>>521876070
>according to the most reliable source possible
lmfao
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>>521876854
How is Russia going to grow again or recover when the world shuns doing business with them and they still need to trade with China/NK at 1/10 market price? Meanwhile Ukraine will be flooded with resources.
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>>521877985
>insufferable
yes you are
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>>521877916
it will take 10 years you retard
>>521877916
thy will most likely die before go back being russian whore.
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>>521877832
>steal
Yes, I meant stole
>Do you really think he would be so dumb?
Yes, 100%. We wouldn't necessarily call it dumb though, we'd call it Chutzpah.
>>521877832
>working together with Putin to drain Ukraine, is that what you are saying?
Absolutely not what I'm saying, no.
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>>521871082
You just really think America supports Ukraine Americans will supports Russia not on any moral frame work but just because Ukraine is a black hole "your out of touch and out of time"
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>>521878130
The Western world will collapse within 20 years due to demographic change so Russia just needs to wait. Remember, the next Islamic nuclear powers will be France and the UK.
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>>521878278
That doesn't say much coming from a recluse moron like yourself.
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>>521878005
>why are you posting on a VPN, angry little chimp?
>>521878095
>>521878131
>>521878207

look forward to the faggot nigger *HYPE VIDYA* you /k/ troons make for zalooosers triumphant return to lead the volksturm in the defense of keev!!
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NEXTA is clearly trying to propagandize against the deal by omitting this point. Ukraine is also allowed to join the EU. Point 11. How is this not a decent deal?
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1991661391040709098
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>>521878318
>Remember, the next Islamic nuclear powers will be France and the uk.

we already considered that, which is why london is completely castrated, and has to ask permission (schedule it) and make the trip across the pond for the privilege to embarrass itself infront of the world

absolutely, completely and undeniably hilarious
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>>521869184
>Written into the constitution
OK
>Change the constitution, join NATO
>Putin dies
>Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk forcibly retaken with NATO assurances
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>>521878417
>ukraine the totally insolvent blasted out moonscape becomes the economic responsibility of brussels

HAHAHAHHAHHAA
AHAAHAHAHHA
*WHAT A WIN*
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>>521877786
>how long it takes to take whole oblast
Kek I can hear your Slavic accent just reading that. DESU I feel bad for you Ukrainians. You might not be the brightest bunch but you sure have heart.
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>>521878353
You just assume all Americans swallow Ukraine propaganda every main stream news outlet and social media post are flooding pro Ukraine the whole establishment supports Ukraine so anyone above room temp IQ knows they shouldn't agree with zionist shills who rape and eat children
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>>521878417
Allowing Russia to steal land that doesn't belong to them, having them pay very little to repair the damage they've done and being forced to give America a 50% cut of the frozen Russian assets is not even a remotely good deal. It would take a high degree of stupidity to believe this is a good deal.

Ukraine is capable of fighting past the end of Trump's term, so there is certainly no urgency to take a diabolically bad deal. No reason to accept just to give a narcissist like Trump the validation he craves.
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>>521878130
>How is Russia going to grow again or recover
I don't think you appreciate just how valuable oil is.
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>>521878462
>then the whole plane clapped
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>>521878493
is it closer to 200 weeks or 2000weeks?
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>>521878747
That they will have to sell to China/NK/India for 1/10 the price because Europe won't buy.
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>>521878747
russian oil dosent seem to be that valuable.
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>>521869510
It's how these things go. North and South Korea only de facto recognize they control the land they control. Just is what it is. To Ukraine they'd become "occupied territories" basically.
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>>521878581
Again, you're a recluse idiot with schizophrenic beliefs. You certainly aren't in-tune with the average commoner, and don't have any data.

While there is certainly a subset of stupid people like yourself within the maga movement who support Russia, normal people generally do not like nations who invade other nations to steal land, particularly dictators with a strong anti-human rights record like Putin.
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>>521873789
Previously, on LOST
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>>521878730
That's fine. We'll see what kind of deal Ukraine gets when its military collapses
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>>521878805
>is it closer to 200 weeks or 2000weeks?
Historically speaking, wars which don't end in the first year last longer than five. Which means you and your countrymen have two more years of Russian missiles falling on your heads while your friends get jumped into vans and sent to the front by press gangs.
You're not even arguing that you guys will win anymore, all you've got left is "It will take Russia a long time to take our lands!"
Face it, you've lost. Smartest thing for you to do would be to get your ass to Germany or the US where you actually could have a future.
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>>521869184
Did they ask Putin ?
Lmao
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>>521878747
I don't think an idiot like yourself understands how sanctions work.

Russia's biggest market for selling crude was Europe, and that market isn't going to magically reopen at the behest of narcissist Trump.
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>>521869510
Russia captured Vuhledar in November 2024, Velyka Novosilka in January 2025 and now they are on the outskirts of Huliaipole. This is a half of the southern line lost.
The southern line was important because with the frontline frozen since May 2022, it had powerful fortifications.
I roughly estimate Russia will partially surround Huliaipole then they will capture it in January 2026, Orekhiv will fall around April 2026 and they will reach outskirts of Zaporizhzhia city in June/July 2026. After this, they advance North to Dnipro.
At the same time, they will advance North-West along the wide front between Pokrovsk and Huliaipole.
The rest of Donetsk Oblast will not be captured directly, instead, it will be outflanked from the South.
Ukraine could possible still survive 2026 but not 2027.
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>>521871665
Idiot. The war showed that armor is meaningless and Russia is a gay fake power. Ukraine bled Russia dry. It shows that Taiwan could do the same to China.
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>>521878992
The thing is, an idiot like you has no clue how long Ukraine is capable of fighting. 70IQ tards like you just go with the flow on /pol/ but have an extreme aversion to doing any kind of real research or examination of the logistics.
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>>521878938
No one cares about human rights for the most part its performance if huma rights were cared about Trump and Clintons would be hanging from the same lamppost faggot no one cares about Ukraine because of human trafficking and the organ trade the war is good for raw hula capital in labs
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>>521878938
You are the gayest, most retarded bruce on 4chan. What's it like being half abbo? Do you feel torn between two worlds?
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>>521869927
Yeah, it's called losing a war, retard.
Now go do something about your traitorous PM
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Jewtin is losing
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>>521876512
1 million
They started with 1 million soldiers, outnumbering the russian forces of 200k by a factor of 5.
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>>521879038
>Russia's biggest market for selling crude was Europe
They just sell it to Indians who sell it to Europeans you stupid fucker
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>>521879119
You don't need to double down on your stupidity anon.
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>>521879119
*Human capital* on a phone
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>>521877234
>Russia is a paper tiger but it's also the biggest threat to world peace
>China is collaaapsing but it will conquer Russia
Look what they've done to your brain
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>>521879136
>get exposed as a complete idiot
>proceed to chimp out and cry
Like the petty, embarrassing little idiot you are.
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>>521879202
I shouldn't expect some urbanite faggot somewhere else to get Americans
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>>521876646
Most likely
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Ukraine is winning
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>>521879032
if russia can only take one oblast in 10 years and not even new puppet president then its not win, its bare minimum with awful cost
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https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1991663298866274497?t=ijLZ5WJOTlmaTd-IZmNgMQ&s=19
Here's a better breakdown of the plan than the trash leaf OP
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>>521879104
Do they still teach you nip retards that you totally could have beat the USA in WWII?
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>>521879195
You have zero clue how basic economics and sanctions work. You are so mind numbingly idiotic it's funny.
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>>521871738
ALL CIA puppet leaders end up DEAD
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>>521879060
Will the NAFOtroon and the demented Bruce ignore this comment?
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>>521879263
They sure are
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>>521879261
A recluse idiot like you doesn't get anyone, let alone Americans.

Which american oblast are you from?
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>>521869184
>putin gets everything he wants
>cheeto and co. get absolutely nothing
>still have to foot the bill for Ukraine's "protection"

lmfao
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Riddle me this, fascist ukrop nazi banderites

If daddy jewtin is losing, why does he have the support of powerful chabad jews that run russia? Checkmate
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>>521879351
Do you always piggyback on others after having your stupidity exposed, dear moron?
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>>521879366
Right out side Texarkana Texas full of niggers though from Katrina and ever other hurricane to hit Louisiana
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>>521876590
This is one of the reasons for the war you fool.
>>521876786
Yeah the people doing forced conscriptions, demanding people that fled the nation back as fighting forces, lowering the entry age and had mothers do a suicide bomber in a recruitment office because they snatched her son and killed him in less than 24h are surely doing troop rotation so the can rest and go on a holiday trip.
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>>521879223
dumb nigger horde flinging shit are threat to peace yes.
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>>521879273
>if russia can only take one oblast in 10 years
They're occupying 4 Oblasts right now and it's only been 3 years.
>but they haven't taken the whole oblast!
>>521879414
>Do you always piggyback on others
Yes, I'm not smart like you.
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>>521877037
So far it is NATO that has a multi decade loong history of broken promises and even admitting to outright lying out their ass.
Merkel Minsk my friend is just one example.
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>>521879446
the reason ukraine is invaded is because they are not in nato.
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>>521879116
Ukraine can keep fighting only to lose more men retard
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why would russia accept this
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>>521879295
I'm not a nip you fucking mouth breathing retard.
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This is the guy who leaked the plan. Say his name!

By the way, right after he leaked it, he announced his resignation in January.
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>>521879414
So in your opinion do you think the average American supports Ukraine really your not trolling me?
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>>521879104
>Ukraine bled Russia dry
Why is Russia advancing on every axis? Attrition warfare is slow moving, followed by a parabolic curve. Russian territorial gains and Ukrainian casualties match this curve

Another dumbass fake, where Russia is weak and crippled yet somehow Ukraine can't manage to take back a single village along the entire front, for several years now
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>>521869927
>wait a few years for the US to finally collapse after Cheeto gets out of office
>invade
>europe wont come to aid because not a part of NATO and America is too weak

great success blompfhfffhhh
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>>521879614
lmao it was some epic *OWN* for morale points in keev
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>>521879514
they lost half of Kherson and Kharkiv, and and trying to take Dontesk for how long now? even if they get all 4 they claimed and no control over Ukraine its weak
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>>521879446
>This is one of the reasons for the war you fool.
No it isn't idiot. That was always a farce and morons like you believed it.
Finland has since joined NATO, and are now storing NATO missiles in range of St Petersburg which doesn't have air defence. If NATO was a serious problem for Russia, this would represent an extremely grave security threat.

Russia wants Ukraine because Russia is governed by old school soviet style imperialists. Power comes before everything. Ukraine was under their control for the better part of 100 years until it finally broke free, and they are investing every possible resource to reverse that.
Ukraine also has significant natural gas deposits in the east, which would compromise a critical source of revenue for Russia if they no longer controlled that.
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russians will not make any concessions, they don't have to because they're winning the war. why stop and make concessions instead of continuing and getting even more territory.
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Russia is doomed once this war ends. One of the primary reasons the USSR collapsed was from the return of Afghanistan war veterans who went on to cause a load of crime and civil unrest. The Ukraine war is on a vastly greater scale than the Soviet Afghan war was so the returning veterans will tear Russia apart particularly on losing their $3500 a month mega-gibs payments.
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>>521879576
And what? You're stupid enough to believe Russia is losing nothing?
Nice 60 IQ post, idiot.
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>>521879636
That fucking retard doesn't even have an opinion. 18 posts and he still hasn't made a single intelligent or informed comment.
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>>521879711
I didn't say Ukraine would win, only that it's a pyrrhic victory for Russia. Tru to use your second brain cell.
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>>521879792
Maybe if the soldiers are given dachas in the territory newly liberated from Ukraine they will not be so angry.
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>>521869510
>And why would Ukraine agree to this lmao?
If they don't then USA will pull their support
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>>521879038
>I don't think an idiot like yourself understands how sanctions work.
Oh how foolish of me, you're right, nobody ever suffered an increase in prices outside of RUssia due to those sanctions and at any rate it would have no effect on political will ever even if they did.
Did you even watch the same war I did?
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>>521879568
Just days before the invasion Kamala was visiting Ukraine and under Bidens presidency doubled down on Ukraine joining NATO, which Russia made absolutely clear is a non negotiable, non acceptable term under any and all circumstances.
The fact that you Ukrainians weren't keeping your part of the prior deals and cut of all water supply to the 4 million people in Crimea for like 8 years at that point was not helping.
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>>521879116
Ukraine isn't getting into NATO as it is. Luhansk and Crimea already belong to Russia and Ukraine stopped winning battles long ago. Yes there's still fighting in Donetsk but Pokrovsk has fallen and Seversk will fall within the week. After that, Kramatorsk and Sloviansk will be the only things standing between Russia and total victory within Donetsk and we both know it's just a matter of time. Meanwhile Russia will keep gobbling up territory elsewhere in Kharkiv, Zaporizhia, etc. Accepting this deal is just accepting the present reality. If Ukraine continues their farce of a defense they risk losing their entire country. Also as a glownigger-loving faggot you're a disgrace to Australia and you should strongly consider killing yourself
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>>521879782
Stupid people like you don't even have the tiniest idea of the bigger picture and just go with the flow on /pol/.
You are actually dumb enough to believe everything can be trivialized as "winning" or "losing" and nothing else. Your brain has no concept of a pyrrhic victory, or what continuing to sustain the war actually entails.
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>>521879881
>here is your dacha in bakhmut
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>>521869927
Yeah, but next time it will be full of replacement migrants and they can finally fight to the last Ukrainian.
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>>521871180
What? it's White genocide being carried out by Chabad, all Freemasons are involved. Guilty of Murder.
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>lose all your land
>lose your ability to have an army
>enemy controls your border
so this is a total russian victory? they just get away with it? lmaooo the west is full of pussies
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>>521880010
>muh pyrrhic victory
Ah yes, and the west will totally come out on top once this fake and gay war ends, right nafo tranny?
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>>521869184
It was over back when Obama responded with harsh words and sanctions against Russia invading Georgia and Crimea. Bombs the shit out of the Middle East but can't do shit against a paper tiger, what a fucking mistake.
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>>521879962
yeah old wife beater drunk cant let his ex wife go.
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>>521880010
Russian whores are pushing em out faster then you think I'm sure women have multiple fathers to their children men father multiple children they populate like niggers the economic factors won't end this war it will come down to human capital
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>>521879060
Russia should surround Kief and make Hoholia a completely landlocked by Russia from all sides
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>>521880010
>a pyrrhic victory
After all those insults you've been hurling at everyone you agree that victory for Russia is all but guaranteed at this point. Of course we already knew you knew that, your seething insults belie your insecurity.
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>>521869927
>Meaning that in 5 years time when Russia wants round 3 they'll be just as helpless as they are now, maybe moreso. Seems like a pretty shitty deal.
wasn't ukraine winning?
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>>521880088
>Agent Krasnov drafts another retarded "peace plan" which won't be accepted so that Putin won't drop the Epstein x Trump tapes
>This means the West lost guys
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>>521880034
>Perfect! There are plenty of building materials lying around to build my dream dacha!
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>>521879914
Again, you are an idiot who goes with the flow on /pol/ and has an aversion to conducting any form of meaningful research.
If you understood just how much money from the national budget Russia was committing to the war, along with how crippled their GDP has become over the last three years, you would understand they are going to have a wide array of problems if/when the war ends.

In fact, they are staring at a very real prospect of stagflation with all those soldiers returning to the civilian sector. They will probably have to start another war.
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>>521880149
depends on trump, if ukraine get good guarantees its a win for them.
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>>521869184
Any deal that allows Ukraine to keep Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk must be considered a great deal for them. I wonder if Russia agrees to this, I wouldn't. All those sacrifices and no Odessa? The Russian City of Odessa that was founded by Tsarina Catherine the Great?

>>5?21869510
"de facto" makes it easier for Ukraine to agree because they could at least claim to regain the territory legally one day. If they "de iure" acknowleged Russian sovereignty over that territory this option would no longer exist (theoretically, it's rather unlikely oc).
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>>521879991
Again, you are an idiot. Stupid people takes can be safely discarded, particularly from temperamental chimps like you who piggyback on others.
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>>521879792
russia can end your allah akbar incest island at their leisure you have more to worry
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>>521880149
This is like Canada holding off the USA for three years. Russia lost. It's like an MMA champ needing five rounds to submit my grandmother. No one would call that a win. Russia proved itself fake and gay.
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>>521880149
Why are you even mentioning "the west"? It just further indicates you're an orthodox brainwashed Russian idiot on a VPN.
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>>521871180
>Don’t start a war you can’t win, retard.
Based.
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>>521880295
>Stupid people takes can be safely discarded
We are already discarding what you have to say
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>>521869927
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>>521869184
Waste of time even writing that deal. Ukraine can do it by simply doing nothing without requiring to sign any papers from USA or russia. In fact, they will gain more since they will not have to limit any forces. Which is why they simply won't agree to it.
Russia can feel free to take those positions by force and lose another million soldiers if they want.

The deal is worse than what Ukraine would get if they simply did nothing and continued where they stand without US help.
US security guarantees are worthless, therefore there's not a single plus side for ukraine.
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>>521869510
Hes only been going slow because he wants the country afterwards. They could've bombed them out of existence.
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>>521869927
> when Russia wants round 3
What if Globohomo wants another proxy war in Georgia or Romania?
Shouldn't Russia attack the EUSSR pre-emptively now that they are weak instead of allowing them to rearm?
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>>521880149
if man fight against cancer and looses arm to it, would you say cancer won!
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>>521880331
Russia absolutely won.

They achieved every objective they had in the war. They only "lost" if you were retarded enough to believe American propaganda that
>PUTLER is literally gonna conquer ukraine!!1

meanwhile, they stated from day 1 that they don't want a NATO satellite state on their border, and would take measures to counter it. They achieved it 100%
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>>521880331
Ukraine was the most powerful military in Europe prior to the start of the war, and they've been getting American and European weapons and money for the entire duration of the war. Your analogy is completely off base. A better analogy would be a heavyweight fighting a middleweight.
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>>521879767
You are a little lying bastard and you know it.
The prior German chancellor outright admitted to Minsk being a scam used to gain time to arm Ukraine.
NATO membership has always been an issue for Russia.
Russia would never allow NATO to get their hands on Crimea to create a military harbor there.

Crimea was a gift to Ukraine which no one understood why it was done.
But how did it end.
For decades the Crimean people said they did not want to be part of Ukraine.
Unlike what you are made to believe, they didn't vote to be part of Russia, they voted to just not be part of Ukraine.
Not just once, but multiple times over decades.
Even under the old pro Russia government this was rejected and these people were mistreated.

If you claim was right that it was a freaking 100 year old ideology land grab these actions made no sense.
They wouldn't have gifted Crimea to Ukraine and they could have just made the old pro Russia government say they will reunify with Russia.

Hell Putin in the past was multiple refused acceptance into NATO for Russia, with the fucking excuse that NATO would lose its official reason for existence if Russia joined as they defacto declared Russia the same as the sowjet union.
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>>521869184
Bullshit, jewtin will have to completely destroy Ukraine if he wants peace
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>>521880220
I didn't say that at all, my dear illiterate idiot. In fact, contrary to trump's embarrassing attempts to broker peace, its still a virtual certainty Ukraine are capable of continuing fighting to after his term, and the next president may well agree to arm Ukraine with long-range missiles.

I understand idiots like you have trouble following context, but I was merely addressing the notion of IF Russia won, and the implications that would follow.
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>>521869927
They have no fucking armed forces. They need to be brought to heel like Japan after they losed. They also need to make zelensky and everyone else in charge that stole my tax money for the last 4 years suffer horribly.
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>>521880400
with what nukes?
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>>521880331
No, it would be the equivalent of Canada holding off the US for 3 years with China, Russia and every third world country combined giving them men, weapons and equipment, as well as billions of dollars, losing, and then every country that supported them is broke and barely got anything other than seeing America lose prestige. That's more like it, faggot English teacher.
>>521880351
That's because the west includes your chink and jeet infested island, you gigantic fucking retard. Kill yourself
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>>521880295
>No ur le dumb
Yeah we're done here homosexual Steve Irwin
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>>521880376
Who's we? 60-iq Igor's like yourself? Doesn't mean much, I already know you're a complete and utter idiot
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>>521879820
>Russia will also lose some men but it will eventually win and Ukraine will be depopulated and devastated
Great plan, Ladybugs
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>>521880387
Yeah, but at that point why should the US keep financing Ukraine and send them weapons and ammo and provide them with intelligence data or access to GPS.
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>>521880387
This.
It's actually remarkable how dumb Trump and Witkoff are.
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>>521880453
Retarded vpn nigger, It was supposed to be a 3 day SMO to capture the entire country. Kiketin has moved the goalpost so many times I've lost count
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>>521879605
Because it gives them economic ties with the US and peace with the US
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>>521880233
I'm not trying to discount that as a possibility in the slightest, I just think you're grotesquely underestimating how valuable having energy reserves can be. Those sanctions are only as good as the political will to enforce them, Europe is still staring lustily at that oily tit right now.
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>>521880223
No, it reached more or less a stalemate but Ukraine was fated to lose just because don't have enough fighting men overall. The drones help but China is supplying both Russia and Ukraine with drones, except for Russia it's being assembled and shipped from Iran and they can outspend Ukraine in the long run. Russian causalities are supposedly 5:1 to Ukraine and current forces are about 3:1 but absolute numerical advantages is still on Russia's side. Part of the reason no major force actually wants to send troops to Ukraine is either 1) Ukraine was a planned loss or 2) China would step in the moment it happens and risk WW3.
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>>521880502
>absolutely zero (0) mention of Finland joining NATO
Post discarded.
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>>521880605
Pretty sure mutts somehow benefit from the proxy wars they cause so why should they stop? It's not like american soldiers are dying. Meanwhile they only get trade deals out of wars like that. They can sell their weapons, their oil. For a price of literal free sat data?
>>521880653
Don't think they are dumb. I see ill intent. They are trying on purpose to make it harder for Ukraine for some reasons. Maybe russians got something on them.
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>>521880579
>Canada holding off the US for 3 years with China, Russia and every third world country
that would be horrendously bad from US
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>>521880550
You're an idiot though Igor
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>>521880653
27 posts of pure seethe.
Keep it up faggot, you're going to give yourself a heart attack.
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>>521871650
> russia started the war
Read von Clausewitz who is world wide recognized as the #1 war theorist.
According to him any war is always started by the defender, never the attacker, by putting up violent resistance instead of tolerating the aggression.
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>>521880387
>US security guarantees are worthless, therefore there's not a single plus side for ukraine.
Trump is going to dismantle globohomo unwittingly with this deal.

No Western nations will ever respect or kowtow to the clown posse of American Jews after this.
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>>521869927

maybe they shouldn't start a fight they can't win.
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>>521880453
So why do they now have a NATO satellite state on their border in Finland? Who are now storing missiles in range of St Petersburg, a city with no air defence.

At least do some basic research before exposing yourself as a complete idiot, Igor.
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>>521880691
>3 day SMO to capture the entire country.
post proof where he says this that isn't a Jewish-Western propaganda piece.
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>>521880387
Zelensky should've taken Trump's initial offer. Live and learn.
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>>521880862
>whataboutism

Fuck do I know about Finland? I am relaying what Russia explicitly stated at the outbreak of the war and they have achieved all they have set out to.
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>>521880579
>Russian chimpout post
Hilarious, you smelly retards can't help yourselves.
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>>521880653
Trump and friends are the citizens of derry. When Russia goes around europe arresting or killing retarded safari mercs who documented their hostility towards russia after the war drumpf and friends will give a blank stare.
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>>521880595
Again, you are a idiot with zero grasp of the larger picture.
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>>521880910
He shouldn't do shit
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>>521880691
That was literally a Russian news reporter bragging about how they could capture Kiev in 3 days if they wanted to, putin never said anything about conquering all jewkraine in 3 days, as a matter of fact no one has, so I'm not sure what the fuck you're smoking
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>>521880924
you really shouldnt...
russia is moving goal posts constantly if they shut the fuck up for once about something it means it hurted like hell but they cant show their weakness.
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>>521880653
>we will give Russia everything they wanted
>but it's actually a WIN because Zelenskyy didnt even say thank you and they were very disrespectful
>there is no list
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>>521880863
Kiketin's mouthpieces said it would be a 3 day special operation on zigger TV. They also sent policemen to the front because the mongoloid retards thought there would only be protests, not armed resistance.
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>>521880924
>they have achieved all they have set out to.
what the fuck no they havent retard
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>>521880943
>32 posts by this ID seething about muh Russia
>I'm not chimping out, u are
OK, troon, make sure you keep that stinking hole in between your legs properly dilated, we wouldn't you to. Die of blood loss there, champ
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>>521881017
Shutup faggot.

What you're looking at is Russia LITERALLY getting everything they wanted.

No amount of kvetching from your Eglin shithole at me will change that. You fucking lost. Just like you lost Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and now Ukraine. Next on the list of pathetic Jewish failures: Iran.
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>>521880862
>St Petersburg, a city with no air defence.
St Petersburg is the headquarters of the 6th Air and Air Defense Forces Army. And even if they need MORE air defenses in St. Petersburg, S-400 systems are mobile.
>At least do some basic research before exposing yourself as a complete idiot
Kek take your own advice you obnoxious retard
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>>521881073
PROOF NIGGER

PROOF
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>>521880924
And you are a complete idiot for taking Russia's official word while ignoring an example that completely contradicts that position.

I'll say it again: Finland joined NATO, and the Finnish border is within 500km of St Petersburg. In the context of war with NATO, this is strategically disastrous, yet Russia did nothing about it.
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>>521881112
There is nothing wrong with repeatedly exposing morons like you for what you are: morons.
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>>521881139
Here's your proof, faggot. TZD
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>>521881129
I think it's hilarious that you're so immensely stupid that you're literally asking ChatGPT for help.
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>>521880967
OK Ladybugs
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>>521879351
I enjoy BTFOing the NAFO trannies. However, it is unusual they ignore my posts. To be fair, it was a good one. I displayed competence. Trannies are afraid of this. NAFO trannies, what are you waiting for? A counterattack is needed. Do we have any tranny volunteers?
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>>521881114
no the dont you retarded fucking half nigger, they need pro russian puppet to control ukraine.
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>>521873532
> make russian puppet president flee back to moscow
He was the official President of Ukraine at that time, he had just signed an agreement with the opposition on early elections that would have allowed a democratic solution to the civil conflict, he wasn't under house arrest and didn't need anyone's approval to visit Moscow. The opposition broke the agreement and committed a criminal unconstitutional coup in his absence. These are the historical facts without even mentioning CIA or MI6 or BND who most likely had their filthy fingers in it.
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>>521878442
I think they are gonna make their own missiles in the near future. America's reliablity as an ally coming more and more into question and the combination with those flop tests putting the fact they rely on America for missiles make it only a matter of time.
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>>521881379
>I displayed competence.
That is why they are ignoring you. Same reason the idiot bruce has been repeating his claim that St. Petersburg has no air defenses until I pointed out that it is actually the hq of Russia's 6th army. The NAFOtroon is an actual Uke, so it's understandable that he would be delusional about the war. The bruce is just an angry liberal who can't handle the cognitive dissonance resulting from the slow realization that everything he believes is a lie. They will not engage in intelligent discourse, they are purely emotional posters.
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>>521874623
> Ukraine is about to collapse
Ukraine has collapsed long ago! What we still see there is a clinically dead state on life support by Western gibs only.
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>>521876786
february 2023 a 17-year-old boy in ukraine hanged himself live because he received a draft notice despite recently loosing his father and brother who died in the war.

june 2024 a video of a young person yelling at draft officers to leave his house while holding a lighter with a living flame inside a room splashed with benzene(?) emerges

november 2025 actress Angelina Jolie has a hard time reaching Kherson for her photo op (or whatever) because her guide and interpreter are sequestrated by draft officers while crossing a city in the middle of the journey

it is far beyond ogre
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>>521881633
russia is getting gelded by dead guy in life support.
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>>521878034
> the UK-France peacekeeping force is allowed in the country,
Not part of the deal. If it was then Russia wouldn't take it.
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>>521869927
It's Versailles all over again. If people really want another Hitler (Zelensky this time) then force him to sign it
In 10 years Zelensky will be Blitzkriegging through Poland, Germany and Russia
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>>521881638
I hope this peace deal happens. Im tired of all the death. So needless
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>>521878130
> when the world shuns doing business with them
The world doesn't want to do this. And why should they? America wants Russia's enriched Uranium, we want their natural gas, others want their grain and fertilizer or weapons.
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>>521882043
if russia gets something out of it they will invade again, simple as.
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>>521882070
You are a complete idiot though, Igor.
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WE'LL MEET HERE NEXT

>>521869184
>>521869184
>>521869184

>>521869927
>>521869510
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>>521882070
and russia uses that money to wage more wars you spineless fucking worms
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>>521882231
Wrong link kek

>>521873551
>>521873551
>>521873551
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>>521882170
>36 posts by this ID
>>521882286
>47 posts by this ID
You guys are funny.
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>>521882112
Go kill yourself
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>>521881259
>propagandist jew cant provide any evidence for his claims
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>>521882488
its true
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>>521881638
Meanwhile one of our most popular war propaganda films Saving Private Ryan is about an emergency act banning the conscription of an entire group of any given family's siblings to avoid complete destruction of the family. they don't even have that semblance over there.
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This has to be a joke by the russians to make Witkoff look like a retard.
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>>521882286
You call it wars I call it humanitarian interventions.
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>>521881259
Gay ass beaner can't provide a shred of proof

"Savior of the white race"
"3 day SMO"

Literally all you faggots do is parrot phrases that were never said. You've had no battlefield victories since 2022 and are running on fumes
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>>521882782
>I call it humanitarian interventions

its a shit show
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>>521881484
>I think they are gonna make their own missiles in the near future.

the sun will revolve around the earth backwards before that happens
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>>521871547
that really rakks the makka fonn
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>>521883235
>the sun will revolve around the earth backwards before that happens
Why? They already did before so it's not like they are incapable.



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