>>521913830lot of people do
>>521913830No one ever wins in war...
They lose when you stop supporting them because you really like Russia for some incomprehensible reason..
>>521913830>TRUMP KNOWS UKRAINE IS LOSING!!!!FTFY
>>521913830>TRUMP THINKS UKRAINE IS LOSING!!!!because they factually are, and have been the entire time, and anyone who's not clinically retarded has known this since the beginning
>>521914078so deep
>>521913830In the western part of the world If you lose, you win... so...
>>521914986.Im gonna sound schizo, ai'ght so ignore me on this bit.-----Metalawyers, I'm Not fucking ZELENSKYY.Zel is not even the letter B, or if not, V. And EL is not my fucking thing.This is frustrating af.
>>521915099Russia is DESPERATE to end fighting ASAP. They can't keep up the pace while Ukraine is increasing its tempo in disabling Russia's oil infrastructure. Now that Russian cities are finally getting droned, Putin is begging Trump to DO SOMETHING. Of course that something is to offer the same unrealistic surrender terms and threaten to cut Ukraine off entirely. I don't think Ukraine will go for it and will have to rely on the rest of NATO for support.
>>521913830>thinksThat is an objective fact. The front line is only really moving into one direction. Way slower than Russia assumed, but Ukraine is still in no position to expel them.The only question left is if Ukraine wants to go for Total War, or if they agree to some painful peace contract instead.Because the Western world is not going to send boots. We can't even do it, none of our leaders has sufficient public support to politically survive sacrificing his people in Ukraine trenches. They barely even have enough support for the continued payments.
>>521913830Its a numbers game at this point and Russia has the advantage. Ukraine is kidnapping people off the street for its army. At some point, Ukraine is going to have no one left to kidnap. Boots on the ground would be the other option but we all know no one is willing to commit to that and potentially start ww3.
>>521915099I would say that most countries wouldnt feel like they are winning if they were in Russia's place. They are losing much more soldiers than Ukraine. They do gain some land, although not much if you compare it with the sacrifice in men. So i wouldnt say Russia is winning, they just dont care to suffer.
>>521913830ukraine is never going to win. Its not in the cards. They were set up by joe in 2014 so joe and his son could get more money.
