Previous: >>521932098Day 1,367 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Zelenskyy discussed latest "peace" plan with NATO Sec.Gen and European partners>Zelenskyy says he won't betray Ukraine>Germany confirms long-range missiles to be acquired by Ukraine>Another Ryazan reFINEry visition + Kursk substation hits>Ukraine says it used an ATACMS on Russian territory>Refineries in Samara and Ryazan regions hit>Voronezh missile engine factory struck>Major Ukrainian Drone Strike Halts Oil Deliveries at Novorossiysk Terminal>Su-30SM crashed in Karelia, all crew dead>Flamingo flew to Tuapse + NOVOPUSSYISK was hit separately three times at once: port, oil storage, ammo dump.>The first Russian region announced an Internet shutdown until the end of the war>The US has frozen negotiations with Russia on normalizing relations>State Duma deputy Nikolai Arefiev announced that Russian citizens have “become impoverished”>Ukraine targets Russian energy facilities in Taganrog and Voronezh>Azerbaijan has now transferred to NATO doctrine, abandoning russian doctrine citing it as ineffective>'A powerful secondary detonation' — Ukraine confirms drone, missile strike on Russian Shahed base at Donetsk airport>Kostroma Power Station droned. Third biggest in Russia + Volgograd reFINEry also droned.>HUR + Ru rebels Chernaya Iskra destroy Russian missile equipment and radar in Kursk region>Russian IL-76 transport aircraft downed by Chinese AA system used by rebels in Sudan▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
russians be like:>pee pee poo poo
>>521939531This is all ukraine's fault, btw.>John Mearsheimer addresses the European Parliament on the topic of "Europe's Bleak Future"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnnOQefj0Uc
>The Central Bank discovered a “time bomb” worth 10 trillion rubles on banks’ balance sheets>A slowing economy, increased sanctions and a sharp increase in interest rates have planted a “time bomb” under the Russian banking system the size of two annual Moscow budgets. The total volume of problem loans of legal entities on bank balance sheets by the end of the third quarter reached 10.4 trillion rubles, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation reported on Friday. Since the beginning of the year, debts for which companies and individual entrepreneurs were unable to pay on time have increased by 1.9 trillion rubles, and in the third quarter by 600 billion.>Debt restructuring has been required in recent months by a number of mining companies, metallurgical enterprises, which were hit by a drop in demand and prices for products, writes the Central Bank. Previously, the regulator continues, problems with loans arose in the oil and gas industry, which was faced with sanctions and a sharp drop in oil prices.>The total volume of problems in the banking system, according to the Central Bank, reached 24% of the federal budget (42.8 trillion rubles), twice the annual budget of Moscow (5 trillion rubles), 7 times the annual budget of St. Petersburg and approximately 19 times the annual budgets of rich regions such as the Sverdlovsk region (530 billion rubles) or the Krasnodar Territory (600 billion rubles).>As of the end of September, according to estimates by Expert RA analysts, every fourth company with loans is overdue on payments, and this share has become a record for 6 years of available statistics. In total, 165 thousand legal entities were overdue - 41 thousand more than at the beginning of the year, and 100 thousand more than before the war.1/2
THM
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH btw
Close to the top for USSR and Total Hohol Depopulation.
>>521939595>Russian business is losing profits while the cost of paying interest on the debt grows along with the interest rates, notes Expert RA. In 2024, companies paid 11.5 trillion rubles to banks to pay interest—83% more than a year earlier. And in 2025, their interest expenses soared by another 54%, to 7.5 trillion rubles in the first half of the year. At the same time, the net profit in the economy (profit minus losses) decreased for the second year in a row - by 8.4%, to 13.1 trillion, according to Rosstat data for January-June.>According to TsMAKP estimates, on average a business pays a record 39% of pre-tax profits to pay interest on debt. A number of industries - construction, woodworking, mechanical engineering, chemistry, metallurgy - they cannot even earn money by paying interest to banks: such expenses are 2-4 times higher than from profit.>Russian banks see the threat of a full-fledged banking crisis in the country in the next 12 months, senior bankers told Bloomberg in the summer. According to the agency's interlocutors, the scale of the problem is estimated at trillions of rubles: bankers are concerned that more and more corporate and retail clients cannot pay off their loans due to high interest rates.>The situation in the banking system is becoming dangerous, Bloomberg sources emphasize: construction companies are experiencing problems, industry and even the military sector of the Russian economy is beginning to stagnate. As a result, there is a growing risk that the debt crisis will begin to spread through the financial system next year if conditions do not change, the agency's interlocutors warned.2/2
pokrooooovsk statoooos?
Smells like a synagogue in here
Hey maybe a fifth year of war will make Ukraine want to be Russia?
>>521939022the fact that Ukraine is retaliating in kind>>521939314no it isn't, this way of phrasing it is completely fineyou might argue about the factual correctness but that is mostly a fools errand as well: >>521938942now go hang yourself you retarded troon, you will never be a woman
>>521939616All of this for Jewtin, what a sucker
>mfw when faggotxio
All the virtue signalling and TZD's don't seem to be having much of an impact
Daily reminder that:>Mass graves of up to 1000 corpses made legal in Russia few months before the invasion, with a literal tutorial on how to make themhttps://allgosts.ru/13/200/gost_r_42.7.01-2021Check the tutorial on how to make those graves in the document.>+1 500 000 crippled russian men in 3 years - data gets classifiedhttps://verstka.media/rossiyskie-vlasti-gotovyatsa-k-rostu-chisla-ludey-s-invalidnostiu>-7 months average life expectancy in Russia in a single year - data gets classified>Lowest birth rate in Russia in 200 years - data gets classifiedWith the outbreak of war in 2022, the service reduced the detail of mortality statistics. In May 2025, Rosstat stopped publishing birth rates and other demographic statistics amid its ongoing conflict with Ukraine, raising questions about its transparency.>National census is supposed to happen - gets banned till 2035Putin himself ordered it for it to be postponed.The suspension was approved by the Federation Council on September 25, 2024. Russian officials have yet to clarify if or how they plan to compensate for the lack of up-to-date population data.>Putin states Russia needs to attract 11 000 000 niggers till 2030 due to labor shortagesBy 2030, Russia will be required to provide all spheres of the economy of 10.9 million new workers, Tatyana Golikova, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, said. 10.1 million workable Russians during this time will “be released” from production due to retirement, and 800 thousand citizens will need to be attracted additionally.Such data are given in the “personnel” initiated by President Vladimir Putin Putin. His parameters, along with Golikova, was presented by the head of the Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation Anton Kotykov during a meeting of the relevant State Duma Committee.https://www.rbc.ru/economics/18/02/2025/67b44ebd9a79Reminder that in the last 3 years, Russia only captured 0.8% of Ukraine and can end the war any second.
>>521939659Yeah, lots of Russian kikes like Steve Shitkoff
>>521939662this war has been going on for years and you still havent learned that what ukraine wants doesnt matter to anyone.
>>521939662Nobody is trying to make Ukraine "be Russia", thoughbeit. Stop repeating this BS.
>521939706>All the virtue signalling and TZD's don't seem to be having much of an impact
>>521939531When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>5219397383 years in and you're still a shitskin commie
>>521939698I'm gonna miss your dedication once this godforsaken is over comrade <3
>>521939738You have to inform Russia. They have been trying for years now lol
>>521939768the goreposting and ukie snuff films havent had an impact either.
>>521939751Haven't you read Russia's 100th plan pushed by Vitkov? lol maybe learn to read?
>>521939706"From 3 days to Kyiv" to "we lost millions of ziggers to occupy some villages and small towns nobody knew existed before the war".
>>521939587>Amerigolem addresses EP on "Europe's Bleak Future"Apes together strong makes big biz conform on charger cables, data storage laws and is possibly the only entity able to challenge big tech oligarchy.
>>521939889Finally someone using his correct name. Goed zo, jonge.
The largest country in the world. 4 years into their 3 day SMO invasion of Ukraine, the poorest coutnry in Europe. is now begging President Trump to save them.the rasha is pathetic
Sytstyirs.... what did grand rabbi zelenskike meant by not accepting the peace deal? Could we get drafted systyirs? Is there hormone treatment in the trenches?
>>521939531Boring kys Eglin fats
>>521939889The goals of the SMO haven't changed since day one. >Hand over the ethnic Russian oblasts>Start treating Russians like human beings>Demilitarization>No NATOYou have to make up ridiculous claims about the scope of the SMO to make it seem like a failure. Russia was never after all of Ukraine.
>>521939988Nigger you're literally a Sheinbaum supporter
>>521939988>Is there hormone treatment in the trenches?Luckily yes comrade, webm related lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>Start treating rusniggers like human beingshaha good luck with that
>>521939795Will you support Ukraine if we crowdsource you a ticket to Turkey and a half-decent hair job?
>>521940098I give it 10 years tops and you WILL be sucking off USSR, AGAIN lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>>521939914From stalwart defenders of Ukraine to the "we never really wanted it anyway"Ukraine would have been better off without help
What's the background of the main American vatnigger?BRICS tranny with VPN?American with whore Russian mother?Schizo faggot retard?
>>521939639going to take a wild guess and say still not takenhope the polymarket cucks rope themselves lmao
>>521940153While that would be very thoughtful of my /uhg/ comrades, I'd STILL refuse because I kind of viscerally dislike fake made up stuff, and it applies to both countries AND hair.
>>521939935>Apes together strong makes big biz conform on charger cables, data storage laws and is possibly the only entity able to challenge big tech oligarchy.Which is baseddeath to oligarchy, death to oligarchs
Copeyansk status?
>>521940153can a proud hung full-blooded hohol explain to me this recent trend of young zoomie hohols even from kyiv and western ukraine refusing to speak ukrainian and choosing to speak russian instead? and why hasn't anyone beaten some sense into them yet?
>>521939855You don't seem to understand that Bangladeshis hate jeets
>>521940403they both support puccia
Zelensky agreed to the surrender plan
>>521940046russians in ukraine are treated more humanely than the average russian zerf tho
>>521940400>be hyhyl zoomer>speak russian since childbirth>suddenly you are required to speak hyhyl to own the ebil USSR>don't own to ebil USSRPretty straightforward comrade...
>>521940482Not too surprising for those with actual skin in the game
>>5219404001. Teenage rebellion again the norm2. TikTok aggressively pushing rusnigger content
>>521940153Save that money for yourself you can dodge the draft
>>521940482>to negotiate on the basisoh wowit's literally nothing
>>521940717October 7th best day
>>521940400Russian and Ukrainian are the same language"Ukrainian" is just the tranny version of pronouns.
>>521940587>>521940400Sry I forgot one key line:>get party v& instead and sent to muddy trenches under hourly shelling
>>521940661Very cucked though, I am disappoint
>>521940046>Russia isn't interested in challenging Ukraine territorial integrity>Russia isn't interested in Crimea>Russia isn't interested Donetsk/Luhansk>Russia isn't interested in storming Kyiv>...
>>521940796
>>521940482He has "agreed to negociate" multiple times before. That sentence does not indicate the surrender plan was accepted.
>>521940717
Is it true that every hohol flag in these threads are veterans of the war? Surely would be stupid for Zelensky to capitulate before using all available resources, no?
>>521940661Tbh, must really suck to be a teen in UA now (war aside). Seems like the only path left for the contrarian teen phase is being a complete retard.
>>521940793April 1st 2022 was the best April Fools joke Russia played on Ukraine.
>>521940182yeah, by then Russia might actually take Stinky, forcing the evil hohols to kneel
>>521940567Are you sure? Even Ukrainians aren't treated humanely in Ukraine.When Russians look west, they are absolutely horrified by what they see.
>>521940905
>>521940893>negociatepablo..
>>521939587>MearsheimerLolLmao evenKeep trotting this guy out every few months I swear to god.
>>521940949Russians are terrorist faggots
>>521940661that's really bad tho, worse than the stuff going on at the front, literally undoing that semblance of national identity the retardo operation managed to foment
>>521940482Like he agreed for the "mineral deal" in 2023, transforming it in an unilateral US investment plan into Ukro mining infrastructure whose profit need to stay in Ukraine, by the time he signed anything
>>521940851Russia is very much interested in Luhansk, Dotensk, and Crimea. But to say that they want to rule all of Ukraine is a lie, and not backed up by anything Putin has ever said.
>>521940971Literally a cartel supporting commie who voted for Sheinbaum
>>521940843It is, we need to bring school bullying back
Definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel>>521940904
>>521940905Most Ukrainian flags are likely glowies with VPNs. Real Ukrainians are either in the trenches or hiding from the draft goons, not gloating on a Laotian deep sea fishing forum.
>>521941028Putin had said all those things about not being interested in any of those regions, oddly enoughmaybe what Putin isn't saying is the real thing people are paying attention to now, my stinky shill anon
>>521940949>When Russians look west, they are absolutely horrified by what they see.If that was true no Russian would move to the US or Europe, and yet they infest it, their elites infest it. Make it make sense.
>>521940925>Seems like the only path left for the contrarian teen phase is being a complete retard.Always has been lol. The kids will be alright, eventually
>>521940482>Nigger can't even read the screenshot he postedWhy are shills for pidorland like that?
>>521940851Russia never wanted Crimea, Donetsk, Kyiv or Luhansk. They just wanted Ukraine to stop murdering Russian civilians there.
>>521941111witnessed
>>521941005One man's terrorist is another man's hero. The US designates European nationalist groups as terrorist organizations.
>>521941079Could it be intentional subversion from the Chinks who run tiktok to make it seem more common than it actually is?
>>521941111Checked but this is not true in the slightest. Most hohol flags are actual hohols. Their ESL is obvious in most cases. You smell like a dirty pidorshill thoughever.
>EU once again doing nothingCan a yuropoor please explain why the EU countries will send money and military equipment but not lift a finger when shit like this goes sideways?
>>521941005Russia does not do terrorism
>>521941189I designate you as a brown faggot who needs to be deported
>>521940936Do you refer to the infamous "gesture of good will"? Yeah, the hostomel VDV died for nothing lol
>>521940949>be russia>attack smaller countrie>cannot make quick war with it embarasing itself>start almost 4 years meatgrind like in ww1>attack this smaller nation that use forced conscription like in ww1Ziggers are pure evil lol
>>521941119>oddly enoughmaybe what Putin isn't saying is the real thingYou good make this argument about literally anything. Or maybe, just maybe, there isn't some grand conspiracy and the Russians have just been open about what it is they want. >>521941146There are virtually zero ethnic Russians in the US. As for Europe, most of the ones there are either self-hating liberals or people who bought into the "grass is always greener" stuff and plan to return to Russia at their first available opportunity.
>>521941236I can. They won't do shit because they can't do shit. Hope this helps.
>>521941274>He doesn't knowIt's best if you didn't, honestly. It's funnier that way.
>>521941111Checked comrade, and good point.
>>521939531
>>521941310Ukraine was murdering Russians in Odessa and Crimea before the war even happened bro
>>521941236Merz already talked to Trump and told him to discuss this with Europe, going the same direction as last Summers thing.
>TRUMPS 28 POINT PLAN1. UA sovereignty confirmed2-4. Permanent RU-UA-EU non-aggression, NATO freeze, RU-NATO security talks5-10. UA gets US security guarantee (lost if UA attacks RU or nukes Moscow/SPb), army capped 600k, constitutional + NATO statute ban on UA membership, no NATO troops in UA, EU jets to Poland11-12. UA EU candidacy + preferential market access; huge rebuild package – US-UA gas pipelines, AI/tech hubs, minerals, World Bank cash13-14. Sanctions lifted phased; RU back to G8; US-RU energy/Arctic/AI deals; $100B frozen RU assets UA rebuild (US keeps 50% profits), EU adds another $100B, rest into joint US-RU investment fund15-17. US-RU security working group; RU laws ban aggression vs Europe; extend START/nuclear treaties18. UA stays non-nuclear19. ZNPP under IAEA, power 50/5020. Mandatory tolerance programs + total Nazi ban; UA adopts EU minority-language rules; both sides restore RU/UA media & schools21. Territoriesa) Crimea + full LNR/DNR officially Russian, US recognizesb) Kherson & Zaporizhzhia frozen on current frontline (de-facto RU)c) RU vacates everything else it holdsd) UA pulls out of remaining Donetsk pocket neutral DMZ but legally Russian territory; RU troops barred from entering DMZ22. Borders final forever, no force allowed23. Dnieper open for UA commerce + new Black Sea grain deal24. All-for-all POWs/bodies, return all civilians & kids, family reunification25. New UA elections within 100 days26. Blanket amnesty for everyone, no war crimes trials ever27. Legally binding, “Peace Council” chaired by Trump enforces, sanctions for violations28. Instant ceasefire once signed, both sides pull back and start
>>521941236The fuck can they do? Send troops to Ukraine? That would be a massive propaganda W for all the zigger-loving rightoids in Europe.
>>521941449>25. New UA elections within 100 daysEven Trump knows Zelensky is illegitimate and Putin is, that's why he's not calling for elections in Russia
>>521941429>Merz said
Kill hohols dead. They infested kiev when the bolsheviks allowed them and now they lie about it. They are fakers and liars
>>521941449lol, lmao, roflmao even
>>521940046Ask the Russian speakers in Ukraine what they feel
>>521941449>1. UA sovereignty confirmed>cant be allowed to do what they want with their own countrylies
>>521941346>Russians have just been open about what it is they wantoh, you're right about that, they are always open about what they actually want, in their forums and propaganda TV, which is dragging down everyone to their shithole level, which useful idiots like you buy into since venerating failure is your entire existence
>>521941236If you actually want to know, it's precisely as a I think french general said recently comrade: westoids want stuff to go their way, but are not prepared to bleed and die for this. We have grown accustomed to not actually having to fight, and it's why both the west has fallen AND the ukraine trannies lost. If you aren't actually willing to fight, you have already lost.
>>521941498The eternal Belgian. Got that intelligence shit ready to go, buddy?
>>521941563Very true. Lenin created Ukraine as a reward for them betraying Russia and joining the commies.
>>521941310Russia was always in it for the long haul; this was never going to be easy, but what choice did they have?
arrows
>>521941353Anyway, have some dead zhydy
>>521941346>There are virtually zero ethnic Russians in the USLol>3 million at leastGrimLmaohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Americans
>>521941593Yeah, it does feel pretty fake when 3rd-parties are asserting your sovereignty for you.
>>521941638Is the fatherless favela monkey too poor to afford a VPN?
>>521941693not being rabid, greedy apes, but knowing their Russians you are correct in the fact the choice might as well not have existed
Trumps peace plane for Palestine where Hamas was the instigator of the conflict>Hamas must relinquish power>otherwise Palestinians get all of Gaza back and will be ruled by a non-sicko transitional governmentTrump’s peace plan for Ukraine where Russia was the instigator>lol too bad you ain’t getting anything back and also you will be castrated too!shart of the steal
>>521941769You're done, bud. You don't have the cards.
>>521940661regardless, this once again confirms ukraine is not a "western" country, if it was ukrainian teens would all be enamored with the america they see on netflix and be trying to speak english (like we do here wink), instead they look east and idolize russia
>>521941693>but what choice did they have?Behaving like a civilized country, realizing they can get wealthy and happy from the resources they have and not invade other countries to fulfil meaningless power fantasies that will weaken them in the long run
>>521941890>you don't have ca-AAAAACK
>>521941890Hope he gets CIAd
>>521941589>Russian speakers in UkraineRussian has been widely spoken in Ukraine for a long time; it was only recently that many Ukrainians stopped using it in their day-to-day lives, or at least tried to, as a form of protest against Putin. Even then, many find themselves still using Russian words and phrases frequently; as it turns out, it's not easy to just abandon your mother tongue and adopt a new one. >>521941623You should read this article. You won't, but you should. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/mearsheimer-europes-bleak-future/>... purveyors of the conventional wisdom point to Putin’s claim that Ukraine was an “artificial” state and especially to his view that Russians and Ukrainians are “one people,” which is a core theme in his well-known July 12, 2021 article. These comments, however, say nothing about his reason for going to war. In fact, that article provides significant evidence that Putin recognized Ukraine as an independent country. For example, he tells the Ukrainian people, “You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome!” Regarding how Russia should treat Ukraine, he writes, “There is only one answer: with respect.” He concludes that lengthy article with the following words: “And what Ukraine will be—it is up to its citizens to decide.”
>>521941785>you're a sovereign country>but we limit your army size, military alliances, force entries into your constitution and you also still owe us your mineral reserveswish people learned from history of my country that having US as allies might be worse than having them as enemies, alas not even people here learned that
>>521941879>us can only afford to prop up one jewish state in perpetuity
>>521941879Almost like the reality on the battlefield dictates the outcome.
>>521941890>you don’t have car*ACK*
>>521941912>if it was ukrainian teens would all be enamored with the america they see on netflix and be trying to speak english (like we do here wink)It's even worse desu. Mutt slop is pure degeneracy
>>521941912>They idolize RussiaLying nigger
>>521941693If they were in it for the long haul, Putin wouldn't have fucked up the banking system the way he did with the forced loans
>>521941952Fascinating. Even when facing capitulation and humiliating conditions, the quintessential hyhyl is STILL a spiritual nigger.
>>521941991>Shitsmearsheimer
>>521942018What does the US lose from a prolonged war? It benefits the MIC tremendously.>>521942025The frontline isn’t the only factor my mulatto gentleman >>521942045
>>521942137>spiritual nigger.t.sits in Europe but shills for the kremlin
>>521941779Most people in the US claiming Russian ancestry are actually jewish. Seriously, look at the "early life" section on Wikipedia for pretty much any famous "Russian American".I live not far from my city's so-called Russian neighborhood, and it's full of synagogues and jewish delis.>>521941916Russia wanted a diplomatic resolution to all of this; the US wasn't interested in talking.
>>521941890Your kind will hang from streetlamps when your dictator is in the ground, traitorous little fuck.
>>521941912And idk about teens but the 20 somethings Ukrainians I've met are fluent in English (much more so than the BRICS tranny shills in here)
>>521942002US was not allies with Ukraine. Neither any European country. They had no ally full stop. Everyone that contributed did out of their own interest, or just retarded propaganda, not out of loyalty towards an ally.
>>521942224So should Steve (((Witkoff))) be fired then?
>>521942051but vassals ie the "west" don't have a say>>521942087language isn't neutral, it's an instrument of soft power
>>5219414491. By definition null if the territory is amputated2-10. Wow cool Minsk 3.0 this time it will work I swear11-12. US negociating for EU integration of a third party, cool, thank you but fuck off13-14. Substential gifts to Russia15-17. Again, pointless.18. Making sure Ukraine can't defend itself part one19. Let's take care of those peacetime civilian strong negociating positions Ukraine may hold20. Let's make sure to precise that Russian fables were actual serious casus belli21. Ukraine surrenders territory, effectively nullifying point 1. Serious defensive positions are just given for free22. Final for real for real this time23. Can't forget what's in here for us24. Russia can't keep war prisonners outside of the war, gotcha, thanks donald25. Just in case you'd think point 1 had any fucking tooth left26. Putin goes back to Washington27. Minsk 3.0 will definitely work28. "We'we sewious"Oh yeah I can see Zelensky signing that lmao.Americans are such a fucking embarassment holy shit.
Ukraine lost btw
>>521942203It is not the only factor, but it is one of the most important ones and the starting point of the negotiation, my vikang.
>>521941952Thanks for the minerals, bud.
>>521942286The overall shift has been to more Ukrainian
>>521941912They never had any of the good parts of the west, by the time they got to experience it in the late 90's the Jews were almost done destroying it. What you see in the west now is nothing like how it was when we were free of the Jews every moments influence.
>>521942237Well, the relationship wasn't bad to say the least, until Trump came around and started doing Putin's bidding
>>521942351>Thanks for the minerals, bud.You are getting pressed into a diamond, kike
>>521942343
>>521942203>What does the US lose from a prolonged war? It benefits the MIC tremendously.Every government dollar spent is eventually paid for either through taxes or by inflation (and usually both)There's no free lunch.
>>521941879 Amusing for me is pidors have the most vatnik simpy president since fucking FDR sitting in the WH yet they can't still get any major advantage out of it. Only stall for time filling the air with diarrhea while donnie TACOs out every time he gets serious push back to his dumb fuck ideas for """peace""" (monke capitulation demands) Certainly anything approaching the scale of lend lease which last time sacrificed half of europe to the eastern cancer
>>521941991You posted this earlier shill>>521939587Why even shill the same Russian paid retard for 4 years.
>>521942461Ukraine lost
>>521942098Do you think Putin didn't know that the west would go to great lengths to try and stop him? >>521942141Not an argument. >>521942272Sure, why not. I don't really pay attention to American political theatre though.
>>521942315Yeah it's a real steaming pile of shit that only retard faggots think is a good deal
>>521941236Nobody has the balls to carry bit decisions, so it has to be debated first with 20+ other countries that might be on the same side generally but see a few aspects differently, and now add the 2-3 countries that also want to sabotage shit.EU is a great project for peace time but it's just not equipped for war. Which also makes all the conspiracies about muh EU control so hilarious, each member has way too much to say.
>>521942486That's not me, dude.
>>521942237>no allies The council of europoors would like to dispute your nonsense
>>521941418Yeah and russia would never ever invaded ukraine, this is what russia said 1 day before invasion.But with murderring Russians they didnt lie xdAlso nice changing if the topic vpn zigger
>>521942461>>521942503Screencapped on the off-chance a peace treaty is signed and the meme gets updated with "next tuesday"
guys?
>>521942417Nothing will happen to me.Can't say the same for the future of Ukraine, bud. Hahahaha.
>>521941449one point counter proposal>ziggers GTFO or be thrown out
>>521942514>>521942315unironically Ze will probably sign it to keep america onboard
>>521941351>EU is a great project for peace time but it's just not equipped for war. Which also makes all the conspiracies about muh EU control so hilarious, each member has way too much to say.>>521941429>>521941498>>521941627>>521942524Am I under the impression that the EU will finally do something when vatnigger tanks are on the western coast of France?
guise?
>>521942524The first thing Europe needs to do is remove Vonderleyen from any positions of power.
>>521942603He's a faggot and a serial killer, who cares what he thinks
>>521941563Russia is still infested with bolsheviks and communists, whole Putin inner circle is jewish. How does winning taste, Ivan?
guyz?
It didn't have to be like this.All you had to do was say "thank you".
>>521942632Why? Ukraine gets nothing out of it and Trump already cut off aid
>>521942574>Post shitshiemer in the same thread as another shitshiemer poster>Oh it's just cohencidence goyClearly an influencr campaign though thanks for playing.
guize?
>>521942632What's "on board" ? America doesn't help, or very little when they are paid.America is kept "on board" by us bankrolling their defense industry, not by Ukraine surrendering territorial integrity
>>521942603Wow, screencapping your own xweet with 31 views is such a power move
>>521942354ok but we're talking about this worrying recent trend. the thing about tiktok being a bad influence seem to make sense and checks out with my experience of braindead trend followers>>521942390the american empire was always trash
>>521941236>>521942524>Nobody has the balls to carry bit decisions, so it has to be debated first with 20+ other countries that might be on the same side generally but see a few aspects differently, and now add the 2-3 countries that also want to sabotage shit.>EU is a great project for peace time but it's just not equipped for war. Which also makes all the conspiracies about muh EU control so hilarious, each member has way too much to say.The only good reply to the question Australianon asked.>>521942634>Am I under the impression that the EU will finally do something when vatnigger tanks are on the western coast of France?It is bad but not that bad.The real issue is overall democratic decline anyways, regardless of how the nations and alliances are shaped.A stronger democratic sense and actual democratic power would have not gotten people into being such contrarian retards when it mattered in the first place.Death to oligarchy, death to oligarchs
>>521942659>Crying about a guy who killed communistsHe's not a serial killer because communists aren't people.
Ukraine WILL sign the peace planUkraine WILL give up territoryZelensky WILL be tried for treasonUkrainians WILL be slaves for American corporationsUKRAINEFUCKING LOST
Dude forgot his VPN lmao
>>521942803You are a communist, he killed your people
>>521942632America is doing at most the bare minimum and even that they are being paid for.They have barely any cards left to play and trump is a sitting duck president nowThis new wave of bullshit is an expression of that desperation
>>521942697America has the best intel and if they cut aid would be big loss for UA
For the frogbros, or the ones well enough versed in frogspeak, this is a mandatory read. Thorough inspection on Epstein, his Russian connections, his blackmail empire, up to Trump. Excellent journalism investigation work.https://desk-russie.eu/2025/07/28/le-cloaque-et-le-chaos-la-russian-connexion-de-laffaire-epstein.html>mfw I learned that Maxwell guy (Epstein's wife's father) is actually the same Maxwell we see portrayed in the Tetris movie (not accurate but fun watch nonetheless), over the Tetris' publishing rights affair.Man, what a small world. It's incredible.Now I'm sure of it, it's the Nintendo Ninjas that killed him. Don't ever fuck with their ninjas.
>>521942803Exactly. Which is why to this day, Russians aren't people. They never regained their personhood.
>>521942901They're not gonna get intel if they do sign it so what difference does it make?
>>521942803>He's not a serial killer because communists aren't people.He killed zero kikes
>>521942634If a non-fight solution is proposed, the eu will beat its chest, draft some bold proposal, and finally end up on the cuck chair 99% of the times. Go figure, erasing statehood and identity doesn't work in war time.
>>521942344Can you say with confidence that Ukraine is losing ground on every front? If I take away Pokrovsk and Hulyaipole, will it still show a disastrous scenario? How about factoring what the opposing side is facing, such as catastrophic losses and almost daily drome strikes on strategic crucial infrastructure. This side is not really fighting an existential war, so how much shit can they deal with before they fall out of the sunk cost fallacy?Btw, have you heard of a war where in every engagement the upperdog won, but still ultimately lost? I can give you a hint, it starts with V and still makes burgers mad to this date.
>>521942632This is what he must do.There are conditions russia will never accepts.He must be a good little goy so he forces Putin to refuse (and therefore Putin will be the bad guy in Trump's mind)
>>521942709You do understand that the man has been around forever, right? He's been at the University of Chicago since 1982. He's been writing books and papers for longer than most /pol/tards have been alive. He's not just some shill who suddenly appeared a few years ago.
>>521941916>Behaving like a civilized countrylol
>>521942831Ukraine doesn't have the cards. Never did. Never will.
>Russia's President Vladimir Putin has backed the US plan for ending the Ukraine warRussia's President Vladimir Putin has backed the US plan for ending the Ukraine war,
>>521942831Yeah but Ukraine will have won the moral victory have you ever thought about that Chud?
>>521942679OOPS
>>521942987see>>521943044
>>521943006>He's not just some shill who suddenly appeared a few years agoHe is just some shill, because he was a no name nobody before he started his west bad routine
>>521943044Putin said he's fine the way things currently are, already setting stage for rejecting the peace deal in case ukraine accepts it lmao
>>521942972Russia kills kikes every time kills a Ukrainian.>>521942886Ukraine is treasonous country that betrayed Russia and helped the Bolsheviks win. You support the communists, bud.
>>521943201Post hand, nigger commie
>>521943044If the plan isn't to turn around and go home, it has no chance
>>521942634EU ain't a uniform monolith retard. It is at its core an economic alliance and free trade zone that is so good even corrupt mini-vatnikstans like hungary do anything it asks to stay in. Attempts to turn it into anything else has always ended with either failure or meh Anything military related or actual war fighting is in the line of individual nation states and their security concerns with big boys, like Germany or UK, focusing on arming those that shed blood to keep the vatnik plague away. On the other side of the continent ziggers aint a problem since vatniks will never reach them. for places like France or Spain but they maintain military presence either in africa or defend their borders from apes over the sea. Greece is more interested in fighting off Turkey while the latter is playing mini ottoman in the caucasus and near middle east
>>521943130His views have been pretty inconsistent for over 40 years. Just because you never heard of someone until recently doesn't mean they were always irrelevant.
>>521939751>nobody is trying to make Ukraine be RussiaThe RIA article declaring victory in the SVO disagrees https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html
>>521943042He must be senile>>521942045This is stuff Russia absolutely does not like. It brings the effects of the war inside Russian borders. Russia doesn’t care if they lose 20,000 men to take a barn, but they do care when their main source kf revenue takes a hit. Back in February, Ukrainian long range drone strikes were nowhere as sophisticated and frequent as they are now.
>>521943228Post your address nigger
Where are hohols in America so i can bully them? Hogols pig language not allowed in my country.
>>521942634Well, maybe not that bad but I'm not even sure if there is some mechanism to go "okay, shit is real" if ziggers rolled into Poland, so it'd be more about the members with a real military like France stepping up since they couldn't delude themselves anymore about the problems being containable.There is also the whole stuff with Murica that complicates it, while Donnie is obviously distrusted, he never outright went, "fuck NATO, I won't honor our part", so EU leaders can keep hoping instead of stepping up. >>521942642Her position sounds like it has power but it really doesn't.
>>521942465Okay, sure. What dollars?
>>521943044>why yes I support my plan for demanded capitulation since 2022no shit
>>521943369Confirmed for brown
>>521943006>University of ChicagoAh yes, the worlds most prestigous university.>>521943325>Irrelevant retard becomes relevant because he agrees with my shilling groupYeahHe's a literal nobody, the only fools that even beieve him are a subset of overly online pro Russia MAGAtards, which is a rather small minority overrepresented on twitter.
>>521943384You can go to Brighton Beach and get your faggot ass kicked
>>521943427>they were real in my head!
>>521943427They used zombi biden to extract money fuckin deep state niggers all of cia is compromised its treason.
>>521943427Great, so you can go die in Ukraine while we make money with Russia.Sounds good to me.
>>521943044no he didn't.He will never accept 50/50 electricity for ZNPP with international control.He will never accept a demilitarized zone in Donbass.Putin>We are ready for peaceful negotiations, but this requires a substantive discussion of all the details of the proposed plan.
>>521943427>StartsEurope has been the largest contributor for over 3 years.
They've just added Donetsk and Kherson to the list of TZD zones. I don't think that's going to be enough.
>>521943077>meanwhile monke is arrogantly claiming ukranian command has no clue that Kupyansk fell two weeks ago. Gerasimov told him so!kek. Vlad the Imploder really is shaping up to be the death of Muscovia
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>521943673He will, otherwise the US will stop sending him weapons and money.He's done.Zelensky is the loser, he does not get to negotiate anything.
>>521943501Ah little odessa jew fuckin niggers you aint shit hohol scum
>>521943720The image is too flattering for pidor babushka
>>521943692Yeah, that title is complete shit, and it doesn't take the massive amount of money and goodwill it takes from Poland and the other bordering countries to help the refugees. But still, the graph is straight to the point.
>>521943648Assuming you aren't a vatnigger but just a shit-brained MAGA-moron the money America will lose from losing its position of hegemony is going to be far more than anything it would gain from betraying everyone and "making money with russia"Besides, how do you picture that - build refineries in russia?Lmao, they will get stolen come the next conflict that the kremlin regime you retards are fighting to keep in power will start.
>>521943648oh yeah, Russia is great at making money, especially recentlyoddly enough whatever they make always ends up in like 5 guys' pockets tho
>>521943783Is that a way to talk about agent Witkoff?
>>521943325Yes he’s an old tard, but nobody heard of him until he became sloppy trumps envoy. He’s just an irrelevant rich boomer who is also a Trump loyalist. Bro his political career section on Wikipedia starts at 2020 for a single paragraph before jumping to late 2024. Stop trying to pretend he’s some political mastermind, he’s just another crony.
People who die are cringe. If VDV troops ACKed my family, I'd go "lol based".
>>521943201You are a bolshevik by blood, my jewdar never fails
>>521943750>Gives up their nukes>Gives up their land>Gives up their peopleUkraine is most cucked country alive lmao
>>521943673Those are just minor details to iron out. The core of Putin’s demands are essentially addressed, Ukraine leave the Donbas region.
>>521943750Literal nobody btw>Vasily Voskoboinik, president of the All-Ukrainian Association of Companies for International EmploymentA lobby group for pro migration, has basically no power.
>>521943767the post was talking about Putin you illiterate shill
>>521943427Seems like things what Gregg has been posting about are true. On ground US only has niches left over ukraine like patriots and intelligence. Agent orange lost all of his leverage in less then a year since taking over kek
>>521943892If you jewdar was working, you would have killed Zelensky by nowInstead, Zelensky will kill you.
>>521943648>making money with RussiaThere’s a reason Russia only sells stuff like a traveling gypsy
Down with globohomo!
>>521943806>uniformthat might be one of monkes clones. These days the paranoid faggot rarely leaves his bunker in Valdai as public sourcing has tracked. Certainly not anywhere the combat zone
>>521943673>>521943907And the demilitarized zone is meaningless without Western forces enforcing it. It’s a no brainer for Putin to accept that point, especially with the added condition of no NATO troops.”
>>521943929>Agent orange lost all of his leverage in less then a year since taking over kekI wonder if we'll start seeing a shift in how Ukraine perceives things. In their shoes, I'd play with the western rules as long as I'm backed up. If I'm not backed up anymore, I'd set the Kremlin on fire on for all cameras over the world to see. Besides, it's butt ugly.
>>521943929Tbf, intelligence would be still a big loss.
Long live based trad Russia!
>>521943929>On ground US only has niches left over ukraine like patriots and intelligenceunfortunately those are not niche topics (at least not yet)
>>521943910When they kvetch about population changes and shill for migration what they are really saying is "we want cheap labor so we can avoid having to substantively invest in the people and allowing the benefits of productivity go more to them instead of to shareholder parasites"It's all just cheap growthDisgustingThese faggots don't receive enough hate and death threatsI found the theatrics annoying (the channel is obviously female-coded) but she does have a solid analysis and rebuttal of this propagandistic method of pretending to care about birthrates and demographics without ulterior motives:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDnr646tLA
>>521943907>Ukraine leave the Donbas region.>Ukraine: nowhat now mohammad?
>>521943840>>>521943840>y America will lose from losing its position of hegemony is going to be far more than anything it would gain from betraying everyone and "making money with russia"Lost hegemony? Imagine thinking the US needs Europe. We don't need you or anyone else. We left Europe for a reason. Fix your own shit.
>>521943840> Assuming you aren't a vatnigger but just a shit-brained MAGA-moronYou know the answer.American altrightoids are delusional. These people were telling that the tariffs were a genius move to bring manufacturing back and that it wouldn’t impact American consumers with a straight face.
>>521941535>Even Trump knowsThis is funny
>>521944149Best part was that this wasn't even meant to be explicitly pro faggotory, ussr was just that gay as a baseline.
>>521944198Did Ukraine saying no stop them from losing Crimea?
Filthy degenerate west!
>>521944212Hochmut kommt vorm Fall.>>521944220Well, that's just post-truth politicsI think it's important to just state the truth every now and then, especially in that caseIt's not like I'm even talking to that subhuman, I know he's a bug-minded retard.This is more for the sake of the general perception of things.
>>521943907>>521944066What Putin really want is full vassalization, belarus like Ukraine.IF he signs such a deal (probably won't) it's with the intent of breaking it later.+ the clause >Don't launch missile at St Petersburg or MoscowIs clearly an early preparation for an oddly specific false flag
>>521944198Trump has given Ze until Thursday to accept the deal
>>521931218Tell me this true, I want to see the zigger jeet list
>>521944077Ukranians have been going free for all since US chickened out with the arrival of donnie. Compare these days to the endless "escalation management" of cuck sullivan and sleepy joe. Where the "big breakthrough" was allowing missile strikes 100 kilometers into vatnikstan Ukranians are beyond giving a fuck right now and are merely playing the courtesy game to squeeze out whatever trickle support they can still get from US
>>521944284That was a pretty successful ambush indeed. In a full scale war, pidors still struggled to capture anything of that scale after 4 years. And their biggest triumph was occupying Kherson (which was left to them) for a few months.
>>521943860Hes from long island he grew up with jews and italians
>>521944441>Chickened outBuddy, last I checked Trump wasn't elected to defend the borders of Ukraine.
>>521943491seems trad
>>521944492>Mariupol facesmash cumpits of azovstal already forgottenI know it hurts but wheres the geroyim slob?
>>521944095True, however thankfully monke is extremely unpopular inside US as well as majority of the apparatus. When the so called intelligence halt happened earlier americans were pissy that UK still kept feeding ukranians straight from the shared intelligence. While on US side the bureaucrats manning the machine were not exactly in a hurry stopping this data from flowing to UK. which then arrived in Ukraine via the Boris Johnson liasons
>>521944444
>>521944601Meh, 425k pre-war population and way too isolated to defend. And defended by like 4-8k people. The only noteworthy thing on the military side was how long it actually took.
>>521944696The rare case where the bongs are based as fuck
>>521944601MARIOpol is just a few hundred km from the Russian border. Besides the geography isn’t very complex. It got encircled pretty fast, and is to this date the only city they’ve managed to capture
>>521944827>gay malaiseI'd kill you yourself if you weren't so pathetic
>>521945118>they’ve managed to capture and keepftfy, fren
>>521944531Yeah, we noticed, you voted for him after all. No harm at all, I can understand, in your stead it's a choice I could also do. It's not the end of the world to be labelled as a Burger eating surrender monkey, you'll get used to it soon enough. Trust me. You get over it after a while.
Why did the Oinkraine blow a hole in the North Stream pipeline and tried to blame it on Russia and failed and essentially got caught?
>>521945438because mohammed got raped by niggers
>>521945438lol based oinkrainians
>blow a hole Good idea. These commie ziggers got a few holes. They could have stayed home and avoided this.
>hole blown
>>521945355Frankly, I don't care what happens to Ukraine or France, marge.
ukranny sisters not like this...LMAO
>>521945736Your cries dim out as you run away in the irrelevance you belong to
>>521945118They can do harkiv too if they just start blowing it the fuck up. Youre lucky putin is a softie sovietboo sooo lucky.
>>521945916>They canEye brow status? Raised or not? Whataboooot the gloves?
Considerable understatement from the Telegraph here: "an administration that has at times leaned toward Moscow’s view on the origins of the war in Ukraine" - Trump has repeatedly blamed Ukraine starting the war.https://x.com/ruth_deyermond/status/1991441095499346002?s=20As far as Kellogg was a restraining force on the admin's alignment with Putin he was a positive figure, but I always wondered if his presence gave false hope to observers who wanted to believe in a White House willing to engage honestly with Ukraine and the rest of Europe.https://x.com/ruth_deyermond/status/1991443272557031488?s=20
>>521945836Oh no, I can't believe we lost favor from *checks notes* France!How awful!Will you be taking about the statue of Liberty Statue too along with the Louisiana?
I hear a lot of zigger-loving Americans parrot the whole "Ukraine can't win; they've been fighting this war for 11 years, their territories are occupied" line, it's disingenuous because it assumes Ukraine needs to do anything other than grind down ziggers inch by inch to win. Ukraine doesn't need to win, they just need to not lose.
Handing over unoccupied territory is a travesty. Having Ukraine coerced into it by the US - & then being forced to disarm to boot - would be a disaster for European security. Ukraine would prefer slowly losing a war of attrition than consigning itself to defeat after re-invasion.https://x.com/shashj/status/1991316989906673942?s=20
>>521945916They had a chance to take Kharkiv when they still had their main army maybe but it's doubtful pidorstan has the means for it now, unless they literally throw all of their reserves at it.
It's obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature - so this doesn't include Steve Witkoff - but Russia would only attempt to restrict the size of Ukraine's military in a future "peace deal" if they were planning on restarting the war at a later date.https://x.com/JimmySecUK/status/1991259474691002686?s=20
Amid the ruins of a nine-storey buiding in Ternopil, struck by a Russian missile on November 19, rescuers worked through the night searching for the missing. There, they discovered a parrot – bright and unmistakably cared for.Russia's attack took the lives of at least 26 people, including three children. Over 20 people are still missing, and teams continue to search for them. More than 200 rescuers from nine Ukrainian regions are involved.Russia’s terror cannot be allowed to go unpunished.https://x.com/MFA_Ukraine/status/1991473798273438043?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/bjlkls.mp4
>>521946129Tbf, it's not like Witkoff gives a shit about long-term consequences.
>>521946079Where is Ukraine’s input?https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1991482202421621134?s=20
Mariupol defenders we are so back
any niggers?
>>521939531Someone tell Lance (aka nigger lips half-breed leaf) his post hasn't aged well
>>521945988the zigger tough boy act really is funny considering they cannot protect their strategic bombersthey cannot even build new ones, they are wundertech from the ancients
>>521946242Probably the most sensible comment I have seen from a US official this week - "This seems like Munich 1938"Nebraska's Republican congressman @RepDonBacon describes "DimWit" (Dmitriev-Witkoff) plan, though it's not just appeasement, it's ordering Ukraine to surrender.https://x.com/TWMCLtd/status/1991440977362575861?s=20
>>521946242Simonyan implies Russia doesn’t have to make any concessions.https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1991485507428356450?s=20
>>521946258What happens in Sukhyi Yar btw? I mean a few ukroinkian girls have sucked me so far so i have an idea.
>>521946374Why would Russia make any concessions? They're not losing towns and cities every day like Ukraine. What a stupid ass fucking take lmao
>>521946300Man, i remember when a round of memenegociations/"peace treaty" shit was unfolding exactly like right now at the end of the week, during the weekend we had this very kino happening.It's been a while since such a kino zigger humiliation ritual, I secretly hope we get something out of nowhere this weekend, though I guess last time the timing was just a coincidence
pigkraine finally lost 14:1
>>521946482>Why would Russia make any concessions?You're rewarding invasion of a sovereign nation if you don't punish russia.
>>521946339Maybe one day you will pass the Turing Test
>>521939531See, Rico was about to paradrop with the first wave himself.Euros say this shit to demand that the US pays for a war even they aren't actually willing to fight. If Europe was like Rico, and every country just deployed a division to the front line, their position would be very respectable. Instead it's a bunch of cunts whose idea of "peace plans" was to demand that their enemy who is constantly gaining ground and outproducing them, suddenly surrenders for no reason. (i.e. no negotiations, but also no balls to actually fight or do anything other than demand total war and plan how they're going to punish russia after the endsieg)
>>521946031>Considerable understatement from the Telegraph here: "an administration that has at times leaned toward Moscow’s view on the origins of the war in Ukraine"You don't hate presstitutes enough
>>521946560Terms are dictated by whoever holds the strongest position. Every war in history has been this way, whether the good guys wine or lose or vice versa. It's not a monopoly game and meant to be "fair"
>>521946560>You're rewarding invasion of a sovereign nationso like all of human history?
>>521946657You're ignoring my point entirely because you know it's wrong.>>521946661>so like all of human history?Isn't our goal as humanity to move past the barbarism of our past? I guess a zigger wouldn't understand this, living is squalor as you are.
>>521946661B...b....b... But it's not FAIR! Russia was MEAN!
>>521946740There are retard ideologues here, and then there are naive children who still havent grasped the basics on how life works (you fall into this category)
>>521946756Based. A true right-winger supports Europe being invaded by mongolian hordes.
>>521946756You act like might is right, yet you enjoy freedoms and liberties afforded to you by people much wiser and much more selfless.
>521946756>mongols thinks lesser of anyoneLmfao, cool story, outhouse shitting CHINK.
Bake Please
>>521946847It's interesting you wanted absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine prior to the war, because it's a corrupt shithole full of scammers. Now they're FULL EUROPEAN (pic rel)
>>521946569>because you can pocket their payukrainians truly are a disgusting people.
the pidor shills are thick today
>>521947016>>521947016>>521947016>>521947016
>521946959>ESL mannerismsYou are a jeet.
>>521947008Wew lad, that's spreading fucking fast, what happened?
>>521942888Thanks anon
