1. Christian writings and Holy men stopped writing scripture, if it was truly real then there would be an ongoing pursuit of holy knowledge and teachings, the Bible wouldn't just end abruptly, there should still be men alive today continuing the scripture because their connection with God is very real and alive2. End of days, it just seems like a ploy to keep the goyim passive and never fight back, things are only getting worse because we aren't standing up to evil, which is what God would want, right? The end of days and Jesus saving everyone just plunges the world into darkness unnecessarily in hopes that he will save us3. Man should be self-reliant and not beg or pray to God to salvation on Earth, only into the next life for their sins. Christianity should teach men to be more reliant on themselves for changing the world around them, because logically that's how it works4. Aura or spiritual energy which is deeply explained in Asian cultures is somewhat rebranded as the Holy Spirit in Christian teachings and not expounded upon in any meaningful way other than when you feel it you are somehow Holy. I don't think that every single time you feel spiritual aura it's for holy purposes only, particularly when it's used in martial arts quite heavily despite having zero "holy" intentions5. Jesus has too many parallels to Mithras which has a more encompassing origin story and is more ancient than Jesus, it just seems like Christianity is meant to replace mystery religions rather than evolve from them. It should include teachings of astrology and Buddhism as a way of proving itself as the superior religion, having educated its believers in what is wrong and what is right. That said, what should one believe in spiritually? What's a worthwhile pursuit into learning about the spiritual origins and nature of man? There is obviously great evil in this world but is it really actually Satan?
>>522007855>1. Christian writings and Holy men stopped writing scripture, if it was truly real then there would be an ongoing pursuit of holy knowledge and teachingsThe Bible was written into 3K years into the future. The Bible ends at the end of the Thousand Year Reign. >>522007855>which is what God would want, right?No, (John 18:36) Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, MY ATTENDANTS WOULD HAVE FOUGHT THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED UP TO THE JEWS. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”(Romans 12:17-19) Return evil for evil to no one. Provide fine things in the sight of all men. 18If possible, as far as it depends upon YOU, be peaceable with all men. 19Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but yield place to the wrath; for it is written: “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says Jehovah.”>Christianity should teach men to be more reliant on themselves for changing the world around them, because logically that's how it worksNoProverbs 3:5,6 - Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.Jeremiah 10:23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step
>>522007855>>522009371>what should one believe in spiritually? What's a worthwhile pursuit into learning about the spiritual origins and nature of man?(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,(Matthew 4:4) But in reply he said: “It is written, ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every utterance coming forth through Jehovah’s mouth.’”Proverbs 2:1-5 - My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God>There is obviously great evil in this world but is it really actually Satan?Yes
>>5220078551. Christian writings continued right along 2. The end of days is largely metaphorical and even if it isn't the church relentlessly preached action for 1000 years and Christians were extremely active and aggressive in all that time so if it's a "psyop" it apparently didn't work.3. The church pushed for personal responsibility for 1000 years and white Christians have the highest level of statistically testable personal responsibility traits of any group in the world.4. Incomprehensible brown gobbledygook. Grace is the state of divine inspiration in action. 5. Truth is an emergent and convergent principle of the universe and all truthful things begin to resemble each other. Archetypal narrative structures exist in reality and pointing one out does not diminish the truthfulness of another. That said Buddhism is fucking gay and retarded and the neoconfusians should have finished the job permanently.
>>522007855>Psalm 138:7-Even when I walk in the midst of danger, you will preserve me alive. You stretch out your hand against the anger of my enemies; Your right hand will save me.>Psalm 91:14-God said: “Because he has affection for me, I will rescue him. I will protect him because he knows my name.>Proverbs 3:1, 2-My son, do not forget my teaching, And may your heart observe my commandments,2Because they will add many days And years of life and peace to you.>Proverbs 2:1-5 - My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God>(Psalm 118:8) It is better to take refuge in Jehovah Than to trust in earthling man.>(Psalm 18:2) Jehovah is my crag and my stronghold and the Provider of escape for me. My God is my rock. I shall take refuge in him, My shield and my horn of salvation, my secure height.
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>>522007855(Matthew 24:3) “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”>Jesus said that his presence would be signified with...(Matthew 24:7) “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.(Luke 21:11)...in one place after another pestilences...(Matthew 24:12) and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.>The earth would be ruined and polluted.“Bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18)>The message is officially spread of his coming and his Kingdom.“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matt. 24:14.>The Announcement of Peace and Security“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.>The Great Tribulation>ArmageddonWe are currently in the pangs of distress Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 which is part of the last days. We are not in the Great Tribulation. Where we are is in the moment right before they announce peace and security. They are going to announce a word wide call of Peace & Security in some way. Then the Great Tribulation then Armageddon.
>>522009371kike shill: destroyer of threads
>>522009371>>522009408>>522011329New World Translation (NWT) ‘bible’ ContradictionQ – Did Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob know God by His first name?A – According to the NWT they did. Gen 28v13 “I am Jehovah the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac.Yet Jehovah was not known as ‘Jehovah’ until the time of Moses over 300 years after Abraham had died.Exo 6v3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. (AV/KJV) Now look at this verse in the NWT - And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them. (Exo 6v3) That shows you what a corrupt and false Satanic counterfeit ‘bible’ the JW’s use.Now check out Gen 28v13 in the AV - And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; See how accurate that is.The Deity of Jesus Christ – John 1v1, John 5v18, John 5v23, John 8v58 (Exo 3v14), John 10v30- 33, John 17v5, John 20v28, Heb 1v8, Matt 1v23, Col 2v9 etc.2) Only Jehovah God is to be worshipped – Matt 4v10, yet we see Jesus being worshipped and accepting it – Matt 8v2, Matt 9v18, Matt 14v33, Matt 15v25, Matt 28v9+17, Heb 1v6.3) Jehovah God alone created the world – Isa 44v24, yet we see that Jesus created all things – John 1v3+10, Col 1v16+174) We were told that Jehovah God would come Himself to be our Saviour – Isa 35v4 (Isa 45v21) – yet the Apostles who wrote the NT always spoke of Jesus Christ as being the Saviour – Luke 2v11, John 4v42, Titus 1v45) The Doctrine of the Trinity – Luke 1v35, Matt 3v16+17, Acts 3v26 (John 2v19-21, Rom 8v11), Ps 100v3 (Neh 9v6, John 1v3, Col 1v16+17, Job 33v4, Job 26v13, Gen 1v2), Ps 93v2 (Mic 5v2, Isa 9v6, Heb 9v14), 2 Tim 3v16 (1 Pet 1v10, 2 Pet 1v21), 1 Cor 8v6 (John 6v27, John 1v1, John 20v28, Heb 1v8, Acts 5v3+4)
>>5220134726) Bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ – John 2v19-21, John 20v27, Luke 24v36-407) Existence of Hell – Matt 5v22, Matt 10v28, Matt 13v42, Matt 25v46, Matt 26v24, Rev 20v15, Isa 66v24, Luke 16v20-25 (Parables never use ‘proper’ names)8) Existence of the soul – 1 Cor 6v20, Matt 10v28, Acts 7v59, John 19v30, Matt 26v38, Gen 2v79) Infinite atonement of Christ – Eph 2v8+9, Titus 3v4-6, Acts 4v12, John 3v16-18, 2 Cor 5v21, Heb 9v28
>>522011091>1. Christian writings continued right alongName one modern writer>2. The end of days is largely metaphorical and even if it isn't the church relentlessly preached action for 1000 years and Christians were extremely active and aggressive in all that time so if it's a "psyop" it apparently didn't work.Doesn't seem metaphorical at all, how would that even work in the context of what's being preached?3. The church pushed for personal responsibility for 1000 years and white Christians have the highest level of statistically testable personal responsibility traits of any group in the world.Why are their countries so satanic and evil then? Literal nightmare mode. >4. Incomprehensible brown gobbledygook. Grace is the state of divine inspiration in action.Asians aren't brown and Wim Hof defied physics with his breathing techniques to endure colder weather without getting frostbite, chi is real and if you don't consoom fluoride you would feel your aura at all times, in Western culture we just call it "spirit" like being in high spirits>5. Truth is an emergent and convergent principle of the universe and all truthful things begin to resemble each other. Archetypal narrative structures exist in reality and pointing one out does not diminish the truthfulness of another. That said Buddhism is fucking gay and retarded and the neoconfusians should have finished the job permanently.Why not have these so called modern Christian scholars write about that and point to exactly why that is the case?If Christianity is true and just where are the believers writing legitimate scripture and mentioning other religions in 2025?
If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Rom 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Rom. 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Your own righteousness can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sin. Rom 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in His finished blood atonement. The gift of salvation can't be earned. Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him and believe He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
>>522007855>1. Modern ScriptureChrist departed, His spirit remains. Christ has the last testament, the final entry of the Bible. It has not been revealed until He comes back. Only John the Exile read its contents. (Revelation 5)>2. End of daysTo stand up to evil properly in any way that counts is to fight against Hel'el (Satan, Lucifer), who is a gargantuan metaphysical fallen Seraphim whose intellect is infinitely greater than any human's, he was the commander of the highest order of angel. Good luck fighting that OP. You can fight evil where it manifests, it says "Thou shalt not murder". Not "Thou shalt not kill". The mistranslation is thanks to protestant translation. Killing is fine as long as it is morally just and without a sprit of hatred. Justice is fine.>3. Christianity should teach men to be more reliant on themselves, because logically that's how it works. Logically that's not how it works. Every large undertaking humanity has made has been from co-operative work. Rome wasn't built by 1 man. But by thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. >4. Aurus or spiritual energy/Martial artsHas been debunked as woo. See the Chinese MMA fighter who goes to mystical McDojos and beats the crap out of so called 'Aura' fighters. It's a scam.>5. MithrasAll of the supposed commonalities were thoroughly debunked. Research it more.
>>522007855>>522013897>That said, what should one believe in spiritually?That you have a soul. That the existence of this soul was not thanks to (you), you had no control over it. That your parents had only co-created your body and nurtured half of your mind. They didn't create your soul either. Your soul owes it's existence to a source. That source is God. Many have claimed to reach this source, many claimed to have mastered their own soul. Many have claimed a lot of things. Only 1 (one) figure in human history has actually claimed it + had merit for their claim. Just a simple Nazarene carpenter from the backwaters if the middle east. No wealth, no reputation, nothing. Yet 2,000 years later people speak his name, even non-believers speak it. Figure out why that is. >There is obviously great evil in this world but is it really actually Satan?Yes. The eternal enemy, the fallen Seraphim, he exists. Did you think it was mere coincidence that a portion of the elites who rule this world always just happen to have ties to satanic cliques and cabals?
>>522007855>2. End of days, it just seems like a ploy to keep the goyim passive and never fight back, things are only getting worse because we aren't standing up to evil, which is what God would want, right? The end of days and Jesus saving everyone just plunges the world into darkness unnecessarily in hopes that he will save usThe Book of Revelation was created by the apostle John to moralize the christians of that time, and it also served as a great cope for Christianity, since they could use Revelation to say that everything will be alright in the end.>4. Aura or spiritual energy which is deeply explained in Asian cultures is somewhat rebranded as the Holy Spirit in Christian teachings and not expounded upon in any meaningful way other than when you feel it you are somehow Holy. I don't think that every single time you feel spiritual aura it's for holy purposes only, particularly when it's used in martial arts quite heavily despite having zero "holy" intentions>5. Jesus has too many parallels to Mithras which has a more encompassing origin story and is more ancient than Jesus, it just seems like Christianity is meant to replace mystery religions rather than evolve from them. It should include teachings of astrology and Buddhism as a way of proving itself as the superior religion, having educated its believers in what is wrong and what is right.You should already know that Christianity stole a lot from Paganism; this is to convert and attract pagans, to subvert other religions and to make Christianity seem the most truthful.
>>522014604>That said, what should one believe in spiritually? What's a worthwhile pursuit into learning about the spiritual origins and nature of man? There is obviously great evil in this world but is it really actually Satan?If you're White, then pursue Paganism. You must think in racist terms because what's good for one race is bad for another; equality doesn't exist, and there can only be one ruling race. We live in a world dominated by jews, which is obviously good for jews but bad for other races. Remember, there can only be One, and no race will allow itself to be subservient to another.Also, remember that Satan is a Hebrew word meaning adversary. For Jews, the white race is Satan (as history attests: where the White man triumphs, the Jew suffers). The figure of Satan, which originated in the medieval era, is just a demonized version of the Greek god Pan. Lucifer is a minor Roman god known to the Greeks as Phosphorus. Do you really believe that a minor god, not so important in the Greek pantheon, could become the antagonist of the abrahamic religions and the enemy of yahweh, the semitic god of storm and war?
>>522014691You don't even know your comparative religion. Satan is not comparable to Pan or Phosphorus. If anything he is comparable to Prometheus, the Titan if Foresight. Prometheus:>Steals/Covets divine fire from the Gods that had hoarded it for themselves>Rebels and gives it to humans>Humans gain insight and higher consciousness, creating technology>He does this to liberate humans from the Greek Gods who enslaved humans in an endless cycle of favour debt. >He actually did it because he hated the Gods and wanted to make sure none may worship them>Is cast to a rock as punishment where an eagle devours his exposed liver foreverSatan:>Rebels against God, cast out from Heaven>Subverts the tree of knowledge>Gives Adam and Eve premature access to the knowledge of Good & Evil>Humans gain broken consciousness>He did this to encourage humans to claim their own wisdom >He actually did it to make sure God's creation is corrupted>He is cast out from the Garden of Eden and is scheduled to burn in Hell for eternity.If you're gonna LARP as a pagan at least do it right.
>>522007855Your first premise is wrong, which invalidates the rest of your questions. We got a new Gospel in 1925-6.
>>522007855>Man should be self-reliantMan is too flawed and trusting in your own understanding WILL be your downfall, this self worth bs thats pushed is heretic garbage, you gain the most self esteem ironically when you kill the ego, tame the pride and lose yourself in God and gain your new identity in Christ
>>522015147Its a memeflag, pay it no mind
>>522013897>1. Modern Scripture Christ departedIt would be helpful if there was more scientific philosophy or perhaps spiritual philosophy embedded in there. One that that kind of sways my belief that the Bible mentions that God's voice is thunder which is actually backed by science. What about the other elements thougheverbeit? >2. End of days King Solomon supposedly had the power to stand up to Satan, he was sort of similar to Christ and yet his origin is obscured by modern teachings of the church and strays off into Freemason territory. Why is that? Seems off. >3. Christianity should teach men to be more reliant on themselves, because logically that's how it works. Logically that's not how it works. Every large undertaking humanity has made has been from co-operative work. Rome wasn't built by 1 man. But by thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands.Seems like Solomon could've done it or a modern day King who is similar to him and does a lot of good for the world by simply dismantling this unbearably evil system. >4. Aurus or spiritual energy/Martial artsHas been debunked as woo. See the Chinese MMA fighter who goes to mystical McDojos and beats the crap out of so called 'Aura' fighters. It's a scam.Wim Hoff proved them to be correct. Obviously you can't go super Saiyan but your Aura can defy physics as it's a tangible energy than can be mastered with breathing techniques. Shaolin monks do it too.>5. Mithras All of the supposed commonalities were thoroughly debunked. Research it more.The light bearer just seems rather odd, the temple of Solomon being involved in end times prophecy and the so-called Illuminati using what could be considered as Christ's image to portray Lucifer instead. It's all so muddied and the fact that there are no modern Christian scholars who even want to look into it is kind of concerning. >>522014304The Abrahamic religions are just very popularDon't the elites worship demon gods like Baal too?
>>522015310>this self worth bs thats pushed is heretic garbage, you gain the most self esteem ironically when you kill the ego, tame the pride and lose yourself in God and gain your new identity in ChristWell said. Also worth noting: The self-worth/self-love garbage came out of the new age hippy movement, and then became normalized in modern academics through the mouths of mostly female teachers. I bring gender up because the self-love ideology is highly feminized and there is a reason why if you tell a depressed or despairing adult male (just love yourself, be yourself) it does nothing. Even if they try to force it, it NEVER works and never will. Because men know instinctively that the solution to their problems is not in self-love. If you love yourself, your problems still remain. Problems are meant to be solved and annihilated. That takes action. And self-love is not an action. Self-love is an empty feeling that cannot build a house, cannot kill an enemy, cannot hunt a beast, cannot start a fire, cannot do anything that improves a man's lot in life.
>>522015310I mean when it comes to destroying evil, man shouldn't be waiting for the literal end of the world to stop things.They are literally researching ways to rob man of his freewill with mind control, if there isn't an end of days we will have just let them enslave everyone because we thought God was going to do all the heavy lifting..It's up to us.
>>522013586>Name one modern writerShifting goalposts pretty heavily there but ok, Saint John Paul the second was a prolific writer.>Doesn't seem metaphorical at all, how would that even work in the context of what's being preached?Could you rephrase your question to not be about your nonspecific feelings?>Why are their countries so satanic and evil then? Literal nightmare mode.Christians lost most of their power generations ago, we're living the consequences of a LESS Christian world you retard.Also every single country that was not historically white Christian is a worse place to live than a literal sewer. >Asians aren't brownYes they are.>Wim Hof defied physics with his breathing techniques to endure colder weather without getting frostbite, chi is realIf there were any useful abilities to be gained from Chinese body cultivation practices they have long died out as evidenced by the fact that the Chinese are competing with Indians and sub saharan Africans for the worst warriors in human history despite having advantages the others don't. The Han have been getting the shit kicked out of them for most of history and haven't defeated a foreign army for 500 years. If there was any power in their practices it has either been totally forgotten or is insignificant.>>522013599>Why not have these so called modern Christian scholars write about that and point to exactly why that is the case?Jung was Christian you fucking pseudo intellectual troglodyte, and he's the only reason any stupid fucker even still knows what an archetype or an emergent principle is. While Jung was not a traditionalist he was emphatic in his belief in the Christian God and he's probably the most important writer on psychology, philosophy, and religious themes in modern history, he's sure as shit more important than anyone in your fucking history since Lao.Functionally all inter religious scholarship is Christian. Functionally all comparative philosophy is Christian.
>>522013599I quoted you by mistake while formatting my post
>>522015609I wasn't talking about self love but I would argue that without having a goal I would fall into despair and that my problems stem from collectivism whereas individualism and self reliance solves not only my problems but the problems of math and science. Introverts just operate differently than other people.
>>522015826>>522015609Love used to mean something like "active and intentional care for" but that meaning is totally lost to modern man.
just be a good person anon
>>522013561>>522013472This is all easy to prove wrong but you will not thank me for the error of your ways when I'm done.
>>522007855>Bible wouldn't just end abruptly,The Bible ended abruptly because it was finished? Like, once you compile and write a book, the book is written? Theres christian theologists writing about Christianity right now. Many of the ones thst came way after the Bible were hyper influential on Christian practice. >End of days, it just seems like a ploy to keep the goyim passive and never fight back, things are only getting worse because we aren't standing up to evil, which is what God would want, right? The Bible states multiple times that you should oppose evil?>For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.Read the Bible. 3. Is redundant 4. Stop doing drugs then5. Ridiculous. The most influential part of Jesus life is the crucifixion, and we not only KNOW that happened, but there is no other deity in any other culture that was put to death by a state authority. 5 cont. >Christianity should change because of astrology Refer to the answer 4
>>522015632The Pope is part of a satanic cult. The devil lives in the Vatican. There needs to be an Antichrist and rebuilding of the temple for the end of days which are both non metaphorical scenariosChristianity should've continued its writings to keep up with modern timesThey're yellowIt's more about utility it's about spirituality
>>522015937I have to become King of America to stop being harassed by the government and I should flesh out my spiritual beliefs if I want to be a bridge to God for my peoplehttps://youtu.be/ClC-U6SyI9Q
>>522015937Admirable, but who determines what "good" is for you? Not only that but even if you accidentally did good it won't save you from sin and death. God isn't trying to just teach people to be good but he wants to grant them eternal life. Humanity wasn't meant to grow old and die.
>>522016017>more about utility it's about spiritualityYes. The Protestants were wrong and we should still burn heretics. Otherwise people just arent gonna listen
>>522015498>God's voice as thunderIt's not actual thunder. It feels like thunder, it is describing the rumbling in the core of your being when God decides to speak into your soul. If God speaks like thunder, it means you are probably close to destroying your own life and He is angered. Similarly God's voice is also described as water, a serene ocean breeze, a lightness in your core when you are in a state of grace and aligned with His will. These moments are extremely rare. I was an atheist most my life. I have only experienced God's visceral presence just once in my entire life. Genuinely terrified me too. >King Solomon had the power to stand up to SatanKing Solomon was a sorcerer and whoremonger whose wisdom was when he turned away from his pride. He is a wise King, but his wisdom was not in his supposed power. His wisdom was when he gave up trying to chase power and he warns and teaches from his mistakes in his book 'Proverbs'. His origin delves into masonry and occultism because of his former sorcery before he submitted to God.>Shaolin monks/breathing techniquesRead more into the claims. For example, Shaolin monks temples were extinct for centuries in China. They were only revived in the 80s as a tourist trap as a reaction to kung-fu movies. I am not making this up, there's tons of material to watch and read on the topic. >It's all so muddied/Christian scholars don't want to look into it.They have for 2,000 years. If you really want to study evil as a Christian you can. Any good exorcist priest knows how the demonic work. >Don't the elites worship demon gods like Baal too?Baal, Asmodeus, Lilith, Azazel, Legion, many more. All of whom serve Satan.
>>522016190How come there isn't more Christian explanation about aura if it's real? Or about the elements or stars if they bare spiritual significance?
>>5220078551.In Christianity, Scripture ends not because God stopped speaking, but because God completed His public revelation in Jesus Christ. The Bible isn’t an open-ended chronicle, it's the finished testimony of God’s saving work. Christians still receive guidance, wisdom, prophecy, and spiritual gifts, but none have the same foundational authority as the eyewitness apostolic testimony sealed in the New Testament. Ongoing writings would not add to what Christ already fulfilled.2.Biblical “end times” teaching never tells believers to be passive. Jesus commands believers to resist evil, defend the weak, work for justice, and stand firm. Hope in Christ’s return is not escapism, it's the belief that evil will ultimately fail. The Bible condemns cowardice and apathy. The call is: be faithful, courageous, and truth-loving until He comes.3.Christianity teaches both: human responsibility and divine dependence. God made mankind active, thinking agents who work, build, fight evil, and shape society. But Scripture warns that self-reliance alone becomes pride, and pride blinds. True strength is: work as if everything depends on you; pray as if everything depends on God.4.Christianity does not define the Holy Spirit as a neutral “energy.” The Spirit is the personal presence of God, not an impersonal force like qi or prana. Other spiritual sensations or energies may be psychological, physical, cultural, or even genuinely spiritual, but Christianity distinguishes sharply between God’s Spirit, human spirit, and non-divine spiritual influences.5.The scholarly consensus is that the supposed parallels are superficial or late inventions. Mithras was not a dying-and-rising savior, not born of a virgin, and had no real historical biography. Christianity didn’t copy mystery religions, its core rests on a historical figure whose life, death, and resurrection were public events.
>>522016182just determine it yourselves, nobody knows what the exact criteria for being rewarded in afterlife are, so not being a cunt seems to be a good choice and we can hope that god is merciful and hell is not packed full
>>522016335>Christianity didn’t copy mystery religionsbut seriously, what is a Christ?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
Christianity has some ok ethics, but it is fundamentally governed by the same schizophrenic, sadistic framework of reality as judaism: kapparot. YHWH absolves the sinner if he tortures and murders the innocent. Jesus is supposed to be the sin chicken to end all sin chickens. Why worship such a fucked up freak?
The Devil and Demons / 1971 https://youtu.be/lA5KUfzkfYE
>>522016272>How come there isn't more Christian explanation about aura if it's real?... the light of god shines though people? >Or about the elements or stars if they bare spiritual significance?You mean elements like hydrogen? Im sure there is some Christian theology about stars, but i imagine they avoided stuff like reading stars because its ultra pagan coded. The universe is gods creation and he is in everything, so the stars are spiritual because god created them so we could enjoy their majesty
>zeitgeist bullshit still being spread 20 years laterthat's nuts
>>522016832>Mithras didn't resurrect>but he did ascend to Heaven thoughWhoever wrote this was retarded.
>>522016461>just determine it yourselvesThat's exactly the attitude that got us in pic related.
>>522007855Ill start with the first two points. Adding more scripture wouldn't probably change much. Not because it isn't layered in wisdom, but because these people wouldn't read it. There are over 10k Christian denominations now. The little we do have we cant agree even on what it says. Could he have had a holy man leading the people? Easily but it takes away from the grand scheme. Remember, a large portion of this process is for an inheritance that has a value incomprehensible. A human gaining the ability to have his will equal to the word of God if he manages to pass the test. Keeping your heart clean and eyes focused no matter what it looks like.Cowards are not allowed in heaven. How can a coward have faith. Standing up for something or someone doesn't necessarily have to mean violence. His objective was for you to remain pure as he stands and enters the battlefield on your behalf as your savior.
>>522007855My only problem is how it disrespects dogs. In most indo-european cultures dogs are associated with guarding the underworld and the dead, and are often held in high respect due to this. But in Abrahamic faiths like Christianity the term dog is used as the highest insult. As a person who grew up with dogs, i can't fully take Christianity seriously due to this.
>>522016914i'd like to hear your reasoning.an ascension is different from a resurrection.
>>522017314in that verse people point to to say>Jesus called this canaanite woman a bitch! i hate Christianity!it's talking about a beloved housepet that eats at the foot of the owners children, a puppy rather than the typical rabid dog used elsewhere
>>522016461>just determine it yourselvesOkay well we "determined" that solar regeneration themed orthodoxy with a strict adherence to the patterns of natural law is the best way to compose a culture purely by the measurable statistical effects, and that every significantly contrasting point of view turns the earth into a vision of hell. Thanks for playing.
>>522017424I wasn't referring to that line, though I've never liked that one either as it put gentiles below jews.
>>5220078551. The Bible is a collection of early apostle's writings meant to be the foundation. Writings are continued in separate books. Not everything anyone ever thought about Christianity needs to be in the Bible.2. We aren't hasn't to be complacent, we just aren't called to be the judge and murder people3. Go read the Lord's prayer. That is the example of how to pray. Included in which is taking care of daily mundane needs4. Spiritual energy and qi probably aren't the same thing, but if they were, we aren't meant to be wielding our spiritual energy on a whim and for our own purposes. The most important part of the spiritual war is reliance on Jesus and the father, not trying to train our spiritual energy ourselves5. Not sure on most of this, but for Satan, if it isn't directly Satan, it is consequences from his actions. Similar to all glory to the father. It may not have been divine intervention directly, but a result of actions from God
>>522009371>No>Proverbs 3:5,6 - Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.>Jeremiah 10:23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his stepeveryone knows God isn't some janny that does everything for you. That stuff is meant to keep you from criticizing God not to not do anything
>>522007855>wall of textgo fuck yourself, communist
>>522007855The world is filled with vanity intentionally. What do you think would happen if God would allow you to be equal to his words? Many humans you met in your life would be against you being set above them for any reason. Let alone the power to have thier existence controlled on a microscope level as you saw fit. They would attack to show you wasn't worthy. Your mainly responsible for yourself. Mainly. The main reason is anyone near you can have thier hearts corrupted and try and bring you down with them. Misery loves company.I think you are referring to chi and or ki. The actual spirituality is more of an immersion experience. You and the holy spirit merge as one as if married. Your body can't merge with the father as it would cause issues. Your entire existence would basically now be converted into everything bringing praises to you as you moved. ...... In a nut shell.The life of Jesus is an account from several people who either knew him, knew of his people, or came well before him. The actual Jesus, we know very little of. He would occasionally say he came not to do his will but the will of the father. Thus, his will and intention could be different. Jesus prayed that the cup passed away from him and it didn't happen. The father had other plans. We know very little of history as most of it isn't recorded. We do have more copies of scripture than most anything else by large margins. It is and was expensive before the printing press to record information. The people of that time made it a mission. Oddly enough, despite the amount of hatred he got during his time, they hated him but these moments are not recorded as lies by the Jews. They had ample time to display discrediting information or a counter narrative. They had a lot of influence even then under occupation. They saw how rapidly it was growing and even other Jews themselves converted. I don't find it impossible that other peoples lives sound familiar to others. Probability and possibilities.
>>522016794I mean like thisIt ties in with both chakras and astrologyIf it doesn't tie in shouldn't it at least mention why?
>>522015978https://truthischrist.com/seven/You can't do any of this with your fake "Bible". You are believing a lie. Galatians 1:8“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
>>522016253I mean that God's power is symbolized by lightning, sort of similar to Zeus>>522016515The fact that it is so similar sets off red flags for me. That's part of why I wish legitimate verifiable writings existed today. It's so ancient now it's sort of melding together with all the other religions from that time. If it's true we should still have similar sort of things and writings going on.
>>522018794I would say wind. He tends to like whirlwinds like in the Job situation.The verification is possible. It occurs with your own journey with God. Just you and him. Let no man woman or child that exists now be your example. God can raise you higher than any of them rather you believe in your self or capabilities.
>>522018794>The fact that it is so similar sets off red flags for me.you have a schizo brain like me.it's a superpower but you need to be able to discern when you're bullshitting yourself.
>>522007855>Waw Christianity is so based but why can't it be more like my jeet religions. If I were god I would do this and this. Hence Christianity is false
>>522018990>>522019018My autism brain would just appreciate more cool diagrams and stuff. Sephiroth actually does but aren't we supposed to consider the Kabbalah non-cannon?Why is it also a tree of life like the Norse tree of life?Christianity just doesn't have enough mathematical parables like other religions do.
>>522019526>>522019155It is more like Jeet religions before the new testament, that's what concerns me. Why are there so many parallels between religions, myths and beliefs? If there was an attempt to explain it I wouldn't be so paranoid
>>522015978https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h2XLyeug8Y&t=2s
>>522019526What I know know didn't come from the Kabbalah. I gained my understanding from solely the old and new testament. All that I have said can be shown with scripture from those areas.It does but that stuff is rather complicated to explain and go through. The are many and they have several levels and many different fields. I can technically get in trouble for teaching certain aspects. Not because it is hidden as we all have the same information but because it can take you clearly off the path if your foundation isn't set properly. For instance I showed you how to measure sin. No doubt this would prove powerful for you in many aspects as you can do things like lean on it rather than the spirit of discernment and see a person heart. But, you could also get caught up in utilizing those tools and not put as much focus on God and more on creation. Your life could focus towards vanity.
>>522017656Isnt literally every living jew related to the canaanites by blood though.
>>522019526Kabbalah is the Jewish equivalent of gnosticism. Not even Jews see it as canon. It comes from the Zohar, a mystical text written by a Spanish Jew in the 13th century, and has no canonical connection to the Torah or the Talmud. >Christianity just doesn't have enough mathematical parables like others do.Yes we do lol.>God the Father, Christ the Son, The Holy Spirit. 3 person's one triune Godhead. >Jesus was crucified with two others, three crosses on the Mount.>Jesus dies and resurrected three days later.>Heaven, Earth, Hell. Three planes of existence>Birth, life, death. Three phases of existence>Jesus was tempted by the Devil three times in the Bible>The human is comprised of three: Body, Mind, Soul.>The old Testament is divided into three parts: Thee law the prophets the writings>Peter denied Jesus three times before the rooster crowed>Jesus fell three times as he carried the cross to the Mount.See the pattern?
>>522019712[5] And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; [6] And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; [7] And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. [8] For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.2 Peter 1 : 5-8
>>522007855>Jesus has too many parallels to MithrasSo does Julius Caesar, that doesn't make him not real.
>>522007855>AuraStupid fucking zoomer
>>522020134Three is the number of completion. One man + one woman = third human, a child. And that's just only a few mathematical parables of the number 3 in Christianity wait until you read about '7' and '9'
>>522007855I am not Christian and know very little, so allow me to attempt to answer your questions1. I would say that apologetics is just that. 2. If you look at history, Christianity is the opposite of a passive religion. 3. Same as 2.4. Being holy is about virtuous action, not some "spiritual aura". 5. Comparative religion is retarded. Explain the similarities and differences between Jesus and Mithras.
>>522017790Humans were not meant to govern themselves. God allowed the world to fall apart so humanity could learn that. After the matter is settled, Jehovah will bring Armageddon and bring back the paradise earth Adam and Eve forsook.
>>522020134>>522020437Bonus schizo number parable of three:Supposedly the end of the world happens when the ____ temple is built. Guess what the missing word is? >Captcha OMGG4
>>522007855There's a bunch of logical issues too. Like how a timeless deity (who couldn't want to do anything to begin with because they have no future) didn't exist before the universe yet somehow created it anyways. This would imply a casual right angle where the act of creation runs perpendicular to the thing being created. Shit makes 0 sense logically.
>>522020607>yet somehow created it anyways. Your parents existed before you even did. And yet they somehow managed to make (you). !!!! Woah how is this possible
>>522007855You're trying to look from the outside in, whereas you should be looking from the inside out.If you're equating mystery religions with Christ you're not in, before you go to bed talk to God and you'll have your answer since God always responds and will never leave you hanging.
>>522020740>deliberately ignoring the fact Yahweh didn't exist before the universeThis would be like building a road while having cars drive on it simultaneously.
>>522020887Understand what metaphysics is and causality. Understand what the prime mover is. Only (you) create the framework that God cannot exist before the Universe. Because you are the one who believes the Universe is all there is. And that is your foolishness to carry, anon. Quantum physicists don't even buy into the idea that the Universe is all there is.
>>522007855the true church needed no further scripture because the act was finished and sacrifice made. you're to wait to the end now and keep the faith. nothing more and any dogma teaching more is lost.
>>522020134I mean in regards to the elements 5 elements, 12 star signs...it kind of just makes a whole lot of sense, you know?
>>522018568Because all of that shit is nonsense. This is real life not the Last Airbender
>>522021189I kind of feel like zodiac signs are real and paying attention to the elements is kinda epic, awesome and useful.
>>522021281post your tits mam id like to see them
>>522021281>kind of feel like zodiac signs are realThey are not. Chicks dig astrology, its why we used to have witch burnings
>>522007855there would be an ongoing pursuit of holy knowledge and teachingsThis is exactly what church newsletters are. Churches are constantly adapting to the evolving world and using scripture to come up with new dogmas on trends as they emerge. There's a long history of interpretation essentially telling an old story in a new setting.
>>522021281>Aquarius>Not waterLmao
>>522020995Every Christian theologian would say god did not exist before the universe. People like aquinas had to make that argument because otherwise you could ask "What was god doing for the infinite time before creating us?"
>>522021487Beat me to it.
>>522021747Please tell me exactly where Aquinas made such a claim.Also, almost every Christian theologian claim God is the cause of the universe, thus existed "before" it in a causal sense.
>>522007855>if it was truly real then there would be an ongoing pursuit of holy knowledge and teachingswhy? just because you want it to?
1) There is already more treasure in the scripture than any man can handle.also it says at the end of the book that anyone who will add to this will go to hell.If you want more you better have a personal relationship with our Lord and savior2) If you think the end is "just a ploy" you dont understand anything about the bible..."For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."3) what you think is logical, does not mattergod knows what is best and if you think you can even compete, fuck you4) aura has nothing to do with the holy spirit, not even close5) Jesus was already announced in the garden, that is much older than you babylonian crap>That said, what should one believe in spiritually? What's a worthwhile pursuit into learning about the spiritual origins and nature of man?you should forget everything you think you know and take the bible literal, then you will unnderstandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkCmTSNMYVk
>>522021775it like to beat mine to hers if you know what im sayin
MODSThis garbage is off topic spam
>>522022222>mfw when those numbies https://soundcloud.com/shai-official/if-i-ever-fall-in-love-3?si=12b1252981e04fd5a17558f063e3f42f&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
>>522022222Massive cherection
>>522021487>>522021571The Greeks and Romans liked them...and the Zoroastrians>>522021877Because there just isn't enough information. Why shouldn't Christian writers make legit scripture proving that all other religions are false?It would give me a reason to stop thinking elements and astrologoy are actually kinda dank>>522022080Why not mention aura at all though since it's legit?That would be ebin.
>>522022448>The Greeks and Romans liked them...and the Zoroastriansyour tits? well lets see em
>>522022222what did kek mean by this
>>522022548he wants to see em too
>>522022448>Why not mention aura at all though since it's legit?aura is just the energy that goes out from you, there is nothing to gain herei guess you want stories about spirits and stuff but of all the millions of angels, only 3 are mentioned by name.that is because the bible is not for your entertainment and Jesus is so much greater than everything else
>>522007855>if you're not regularly worshipping and asking the Creator, you're wasting your time
>>522007855>I am somewhat partial to Christianity>but I see right through the bullshit and still want to be convinced nigger this better be bait
>>522022791its spam
>>5220078551. (this is a laymen apologetic)the synthesis was logically complete (in many many areas) the messaging was lacking better to clearly define the synthasis and allow practitoners to explain the messageing*lets take an example (devils advocate)*So human nature is inherantly flawed we can look at this in an extreeme (would you kill for a trillion dollers (like philosophy it) how about you kill get a trillion cant hurt yourself or others with the trillion and you save 50000 peopleok we have a basline temptation is boderline absolute (its not complete but its pretty fucking close)lets take the inverse (this is where it gets fucked) (deamon time)so the inverse isnt not doing that.... the inverse is well the inverse could you resist fantastical power while bearing fantastical punishment (if 99.9% of people fail the first test and the .1% wont kill for money)jobe is the fucking inverse and its not applicable no rational being can be expected to survive the posite never mind the inversewhat is jobe (messageing) what is the parable *we are a fallen condition*somebody buy me a coffie plz so your initial point is like why dont chefs spoil the broth the information is close to absolute and the messageing is borderline if not litterly trancendant people have been reading jobe to understand the fallen condition for 2 thousand years this isnt a 10 point iq deviation this is unrecognisable the people makeing this shit are 1 in a billion figures (mostly) divine inspiration becomes a reasonable explination.thats why it must be preserved
>>522007855>That said, what should one believe in spiritually?No one can answer that question but yourself. Why would you outsource something so important?
>>522009371>The Bible ends at the end of the Thousand Year Reign.So it ended in 1945 and this is utopia?
I am begging shill posters not to get their points from reddit atheism or at least read what they are shitting on first. Go get the nrsv, that one is technically blasphemous so you'll be fine.
>>522022448>The Greeks and Romans liked them...and the ZoroastriansYa, and they had religious systems that were fake nonsense. Which is why Christianity replaced all of them. Because its not make believe The Greeks and Roman's abandoned like shit like a bad habit, despite the fact that state authories were actively suppressing christians.
>>522022972and again all of this is a simple lesson that could take 10 lifetimes to understand geniouses of geniouses could not impart the message better but preaching it should be left to people of the time your local pastor who probably has a very loose understanding on what im talking about and i probably have a loose understanding on what its talking aboutbut if your pastor truely understands the storys and can communicate them you are getting wisdom that cannot be bought even if you dont understand it
while i am somewhat partial to reading long disingenuous agenda shill essays, i think i will just redeem this thread as yet another pajeet anti-christianity thread.ok pajeets?
>>522023264Hell, bonus, the nrsv is even a catholic one so your religious dad will hate it and it's got all the books the kjv he uses has.
the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore
pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent
>>522023291now would i disagree with certain ideas and protents i think i would be a fool not to but understanding the profoundly exceptional wisdom requires me to deeply contemplate my position its like somebody giving you a billion dollers and then when they buy clothes at walmart you ask them if they are poor kek i do think apologetics are a trap however
>>522022690>there is nothing to gain hereUsing it as extra energy for breathing techniques like Wim Hoff is usefulThe Bible should teach you how to use your spiritual energy. I think it makes me more creative, positive and athletic
>>522023847yfq aura creates you you dont create aura (aww yea now were shitposting)
>>522023076The Thousand Year Reign begins after Armageddon. It will fix all humanities problems. Even death itself.
>>522023919Aura emanates from the human body like flames
>>522007855It's a foreign religion . Believe is different from spiritually, just do what you think is right.
>>522023968Belief'
>>522007855It's not real faggot.All religion is a way to control you retards unable to cope with reality without some form of guidance from 'above', it's all written and created by men, retard.
>>522017057This. The problem with “choosing what good is” is that everyone has a different definition of what good is.
>>522023956kek hard to argue with this but its more like rain than flames and we are both argueing like its a force of nature serendipity is a trip
>>522024019well even if this is true and it well could be religion offers some very uncomfortable truths even if this is a logical conclusionthere is a reason kings swear feality to this higher power pageantry or not
>>522007855i am viscerally hostile to faith and faith accessoriesi think if you need a 'why' to feel good about life that you're fucked in the head and possibly have a shit life
>>522007855Western alchemy is heavily guarded and not well known, unlike it's eastern counterpart. The druids of today are just as secretive as they were in the past. More so now, in fact. To give you an example, the energy you're referring to is known as Azoth in the West. Picrel is it's symbol. The alchemical process is, in essence, a personal death and resurrection. The serpent is used to symbolize this through the shedding of its skin. Druids called themselves serpents in reference to their possession of the serpent knowledge. >What should I believe? Vajrayana/Yungdrung Bon. Read "The Serpent Grail".
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>>522024378to my knowledge non of the holy texts ever dug up contain anything rigorous enough to be called truththe reason is pure pageantry, the idiots that believe in the specific power see it as a sign of legitimacy for the kings doing the little dance
>>522024993Yep, thats how they made the knowledge so hard to attain.
>>522025072its because its so obvious that even they understand they must be held accountable not to themselfs or to their peirs but to a higher standard the higher standard is religion for better or worse faith based systems produce the highest standard and crazily deviation from this popularism historically has led to disposition in a very real way a king embraceing religion or even publicaly acting asthough he has has helped both him and his kigdom why..... isnt that odd.
Some places have more people that know than others.
>>522007855>That said, what should one believe in spiritually?Here's the final redpill:https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/From the post:>And don't be deceived by the fact that the masses aren't talking about this info. In actuality, this info is the most important thing on the planet right now—by far. Nothing else even comes close.
>>522025644See this post as well:https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1ou2ts9/the_day_of_vengeance_may_begin_in_the_next_90/
>>522007855>Christian writings and Holy men stopped writing scripture, if it was truly real then there would be an ongoing pursuit of holy knowledge and teachings, What are you even talking about anon? Theologians have been doing that for thousands of years.
>>522024167Correct.
>>522025270to midwits and above a king's legitimacy is one to one with how well he manages the papers and goldthere is no higher power that put them there, people put them there, people who expect the king that can do the job or we will find someone who canrulers need to be reminded of their place in the world, you resolve disputes and assign tokens, know your fucking place
>>522028214economists truely understand the paramount of transaction lmao
>>522028884you don't have a leader because some random twat 'deserves' whatever metaphysical bullshit stationyou have a leader because groups with leadership outperform those without
Once you realize it a jewish religion there's no return, it's like checking the early life section of someone
>>522029087said like a true burocrat i wish i could agree
>>522007855>1. Christian writings and Holy men stopped writing scripture, if it was truly real then there would be an ongoing pursuit of holy knowledge and teachings, the Bible wouldn't just end abruptly, there should still be men alive today continuing the scripture because their connection with God is very real and aliveChristian writings still happen all the time. The Bible is only the Bible because the early Church fathers got together and discerned what should be included in the compendium. A lot of stuff didn't make the cut (a lot less stuff made the cut for protestant bibles (mostly stuff about the jews crimes during OT times)). Just because things aren't being added to the bible doesn't mean religious writings dont exist anymore.
>>522029423>(mostly stuff about the jews crimes during OT times)
>>522029423Yeah but they're not canon or organized and presented to believers in a way that makes sense
>>522007855>>522013141How to be sure of going to heaven:https://youtu.be/qME9ynKt8e4?si=fm58-iKdm1XoGmiA
