Previous: >>522008452Day 1,369 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Marco Rubio announces that the 28 point peace plan was a Russian document, not a US one >Zelenskyy discussed latest "peace" plan with NATO Sec.Gen and European partners>Zelenskyy says he won't betray Ukraine>Germany confirms long-range missiles to be acquired by Ukraine>Another Ryazan reFINEry visition + Kursk substation hits>Ukraine says it used an ATACMS on Russian territory>Refineries in Samara and Ryazan regions hit>Voronezh missile engine factory struck>Major Ukrainian Drone Strike Halts Oil Deliveries at Novorossiysk Terminal>Su-30SM crashed in Karelia, all crew dead>Flamingo flew to Tuapse + NOVOPUSSYISK was hit separately three times at once: port, oil storage, ammo dump.>The first Russian region announced an Internet shutdown until the end of the war>The US has frozen negotiations with Russia on normalizing relations>State Duma deputy Nikolai Arefiev announced that Russian citizens have “become impoverished”>Ukraine targets Russian energy facilities in Taganrog and Voronezh>Azerbaijan has now transferred to NATO doctrine, abandoning russian doctrine citing it as ineffective>'A powerful secondary detonation' — Ukraine confirms drone, missile strike on Russian Shahed base at Donetsk airport>Kostroma Power Station droned. Third biggest in Russia + Volgograd reFINEry also droned.>HUR + Ru rebels Chernaya Iskra destroy Russian missile equipment and radar in Kursk region▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
>Marco Rubio announces that the 28 point peace plan was a Russian document, not a US oneLMFAO! /uhg/ fell for it again. Only thing more funny is that Russia ostentatiously rejected their own peace proposal to save face lmfao!
>>522020419How organic
Rubio say its a russian document and he is against it.What a shitshow!
Okay so Trump was pushing for a plan and Russians leaked a surrender plan to Axios and the Trump admin had no idea it was not their plan that was leaked? Am I understanding this correctly?
Daily reminder that:>Mass graves of up to 1000 corpses made legal in Russia few months before the invasion, with a literal tutorial on how to make themhttps://allgosts.ru/13/200/gost_r_42.7.01-2021Check the tutorial on how to make those graves in the document.>+1 500 000 crippled russian men in 3 years - data gets classifiedhttps://verstka.media/rossiyskie-vlasti-gotovyatsa-k-rostu-chisla-ludey-s-invalidnostiu>-7 months average life expectancy in Russia in a single year - data gets classified>Lowest birth rate in Russia in 200 years - data gets classifiedWith the outbreak of war in 2022, the service reduced the detail of mortality statistics. In May 2025, Rosstat stopped publishing birth rates and other demographic statistics amid its ongoing conflict with Ukraine, raising questions about its transparency.>National census is supposed to happen - gets banned till 2035Putin himself ordered it for it to be postponed.The suspension was approved by the Federation Council on September 25, 2024. Russian officials have yet to clarify if or how they plan to compensate for the lack of up-to-date population data.>Putin states Russia needs to attract 11 000 000 niggers till 2030 due to labor shortagesBy 2030, Russia will be required to provide all spheres of the economy of 10.9 million new workers, Tatyana Golikova, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, said. 10.1 million workable Russians during this time will “be released” from production due to retirement, and 800 thousand citizens will need to be attracted additionally.Such data are given in the “personnel” initiated by President Vladimir Putin Putin. His parameters, along with Golikova, was presented by the head of the Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation Anton Kotykov during a meeting of the relevant State Duma Committee.https://www.rbc.ru/economics/18/02/2025/67b44ebd9a79Reminder that in the last 3 years, Russia only captured 0.8% of Ukraine.
>>522020419Not the own you think it is buddy>Lol this US admin is so stupid they spread russian documents as their own
>>522020489You got the gist of it
>>522020419>/uhg/ fell for "Trump will save Russia"
>>522020455I mean "leaking" a peace proposal you wrote to gullible Western media that hate Trump and can be used for this reason is pretty genius. But then making a big show of rejecting it makes Russia look asinine and pathetic desu.
>>522020489orange pedo was elected to lead not to read
>>522020541Okay thanks
>>522020536They never spread it though dumbass.>>522020542>/uhg/ fell for "Trump will save Russia"it's funny because they did lmao. Russia used Western media for a really quality D&C psyop, and the media and /uhg/ fell for it completely because they ultimately hate Trump even more than they hate Putin.
>>522020567lol yeah
Apparently there's a war within the american administration concerning Ukraine policy between pro russians/"realist" like Witkoff and Vance, and more pro Ukraine/trad neocon Rubio and Kellogg.>https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkyivindependent.com%2Fexclusive-is-trump-envoy-working-with-russia-witkoff-runs-operation-to-sideline-pro-ukraine-officials-inside-white-house%2FIn any case it shows deep incompetence.
Murrica gave Ukraine TomahawksGermany gave Ukraine TaurusI want to see them used.
>>522020677Witkoff is a Russian and a jew, no surprise there. He is a traitor to the US.
>>522020567I thought he was elected for his sucky relationship with the Clintons
>>522020419Hey jeet nigger, you spent the last 2 days spamming about how the U.S would save russniggerland KEKAROOO. EVEN SHITSKIN MARXIO BOUGHT IN LMAO
>>522020644>I love when shitskins shit up the InternetWhat an interesting take, of course you're a brown nigger so this is a good thing to you LMAO
>>522020644Kill yourself nigger and stop lying
>>522020677senators aren't happy about it either, btwit's a trumpcuck gimmick proposal so that putin doesn't release the bubba pics
victory is right around the corner
>>522020773Oh snap!
>>522020677>In any case it shows deep incompetence.What specifically shows that though?>>522020800Goreleaf, you completely misunderstood the point of my post. Glad your ban is over anyway. Not everyone here is the same jeet your argue with endlessly in your head.
If it is confirmed that Dimitriev did the leak, he should be banned to enter US.But Trump has to save face so nothing happens...
>>522020727>Witkoff is a Russian and a jewPick one. (It's the latter)
>>522020859Hey, where's the russnigger Kharkiv copefensive? Sumy copefensive? russnigger Pokvorsk copefensive, Zapo copefensive? KEKAROOOOOOOO MEMORYHOLING JEET NIGGER
>>522020843Post any link saying the US administration endorsed and spread the peace proposal. Rubio would be lying if that's true. So post it.
By morning, I want a comprehensive list of all the jeets running pro-zigger xitter
>>522020879>i-it's in your headKEKAROOOO JEET NIGGER
>OP is a graph about bondsUnfathomably based. /uhg/ vill enjoy TBD and ve vill be happy.Good TZD nightP.S. Ukraine burnt an mi-28 not an mi-8 lulhttps://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3m6ajobwtxs2m
>>522020929Faggot musk removed the feature "temporarily" because it was exposing all of the shitskins LMAO
PRO RUSSNIGGERS WILL NEVER SHAKE THEIR REPUTION OF BEING BROWN NIGGERS KEKAROOOO
>>522020879The document that was leaked and presented as american has been confirmed to actually being 100% russian by Rubio.Trump have shilled it (maybe by mistake)
>>522020929Apparently a lot of them are Nigerians. Which is not too surprising as their Nigerian prince scams have not worked for a while now. Gotta get some cash somehow heh
To the surprsie of no one,pro-russniggers are brown shitskins or troon commies KEKAROOO
>>522021013Of course, disgusting niggers are the only ones who you can pay fucking crumbs to, to do this kind of work. I guarantee you these niggers think this is a "good job" KEKAROOOO. That's how disgusting their nigger nations are.
>>522020841>>522020843Guys I'm not pro russia but he's right.Russia psy opped US and generally the western governments pretty well.It sowed divisions and panic for a few days
Ya, he's right. A buncha shitskins amplified a nigger psyop, showing that pro russniggers are brown. Now the average normie knows. Also all the pro-russnigger shitskins posting in /uhg/ exposed themselves as shills LMAO
>>522020936I'm not a zigger dude. Russia is a buck broken joke that probably will breakup before 2030. You misunderstood my post (again) and now are just doing your normal jeet related canned responses like you do all thread every thread. Friendly fire and you're really easy to set off.>>522021001>Trump have shilled itNo he didn't. He never talked about it at all, just general remarks. The admin has never said anything about the plan. It was all a media psy-op orchestrated by russia to perfection. /uhg/ fell for it and this is why I'm getting seethe...because you know it's true
TZD
>>522021031I was thinking NAFO might be zigger controlled opposition based on how fucking obnoxious and trooned they are. To my great surprise, the prominent accounts are indeed based in Europe, with one even being in Ukraine. I still think ziggers infiltrated it to make it extra gay and unsavory to the political right.
>>522021225Hey, faggot, can you show me falling for it? I'll wait LMAO
Say something nice to the future ruler of Ukraine
This is what russia is fighting for
>>522021372Thank you based glownigger kike putin for giving me dead russnigger piles for 4 years KEKAROOO
May glownigger putin continue to lead russniggerland for years to come.Why did the commie niggers run out of tanks again? KEKAROOOOO
>>522021372>I'm not a zigger btwFuck off nigger
>>522020929>>522021221Westerners really do not understand, third-world solidarity, huh?That is why BRICS stands united despite internal issues and also why it will surpass the West.
Ya love to see it. Pokvorsk direction btw boys, notice how the niggers are now dying outside of the city limits LMAO
>>522021339>can you show me falling for it?No actually you probably didn't fall for it desu. Most of the others here did, but I don't believe you did. You avoid talking about American domestic politics entirely from what I've seen.
>>522021509>That is why BRICS stands unitedLMAO! The BRICS aren't united in anything and all hate each other.
>>522021536That's right, I instead spent my time collecting russnigger cope about how Trump would save them so I could rub their nigger faces in their own shit.
>>522021455There are still thousands of T-55s in mothball in Siberia and vehicles can be welded with armor in a pinch to serve the same purpose.>>522021593China and India are doing commerce with Russia in the face of harsh Western sanctions.
Ukraine WILL sign the peace planUkraine WILL give up territoryUkraine WILL be banned from joining the EU and NATOUkraine WILL become a slave state for American corporations Ukraine WILL hang Zelensky from the Maksym Zalizniak oak treeUKRAINEFUCKINGLOST
>>522021001Also al the backpedaling confirms it to lmao >No not that draft we actually have another super secret one we have not yet decided on
>>522021654See, the jeet niggers are still trying KEKAROOO. Just more ammo for me LMAO
>>522021654lol
jesus christ
>>522021618Good lad.>>522021654>China and India are doing commerce with Russia in the face of harsh Western sanctions.So? Sanctions don't work and only make countries stronger right? Russia sure does have to sell its oil at a huge discount to them though...why is that?
>>522020337>Marco Rubio announces that the 28 point peace plan was a Russian document, not a US oneBut Trump was already on camera pressuring Ukraine to accept or be cut off? Are they genuinely schizophrenic
>>522021654Weren't you the guy that said the same thing months ago lmao Mr >Ukraine surrenders on Friday I promise
>>522021761>Russia hacked the 2016 election bros!so cringe
>>522021654>willcrystal ball again?
>>522021768I know right and then ziggers say that was not the true piss plan
>turns out the ebin trump peace plan was literally passed along from the ziggers with zero modifications or discussion on the American side >zero discussion on pol other than >>522019750Wtf??
mfw
>>522021768>Trump was already on camera pressuring Ukraine to accept or be cut off?Where though? He was just answering pablum questions and not talking about this 28 point shit at all. He probably didn't even know about it.
>>522021896Politico also reporting on it, article from a few mins ago: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/22/lawmakers-deny-peace-plan-ukraine-00666185
>>5220218964chan especially is full of turdies and mossad who would have though
>>522021896It's Trump's plan now anyways because he was the one who proposed it to Kiev.
>>522022010Considering the kompromat they likely have on the retard, it was always his plan.
>>522021761>RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA LE PEE PEE TAPES AND STEELE DOSSIERBraindead libtards
>>522021970It wasn't "passed on" by the WH you retard. It was "leaked" by Russia to Western media as a psyop claiming it was written and agreed on by both the US and Russia...but it never was. It was all a psyop that /uhg/ and gullible retard journalists fell for AGAIN.
>>522022052Nigger you defend literal communists
>>522022049Yeah they have so much kompromat on Trump but never use it for some reason. And he keeps sending Ukraine weapons, authorizing them to use ATACMS inside Russia, tariffs India, puts max sanctions on Russian oil way way beyond anything Biden did...but he's totally Putin's stooge because of the pee tape right?Fucking euros are just so retarded when it comes to US politics. They believe whatever the state TV news tells them and it's pathetic.
>claims to be Ukrainian>claims to be in ukraine>spanish account in spain
>>522021896>Do this thing that enriches me or there will be consequences>Then I choose consequences>I was just joking, let's review our options
>>522022159If they use it, they no longer have a hold. Did you even think before writing that post?
>>522022115See >>522022161Spaintard
>>522022052Thank you for your opinion Mary from Texas oblast
>>522022204I don't hide behind a flag that's isn't mine unlike ((you))
Another “hohol” spreading hohol propaganda in a different country
>>522022052>response literally composed of only trumpcuck buzzwords
>>522021372
>>522021761What this literal-who doesn't understand is that Canadians have no reason to dislike Russia anyway.
>>522022203Well then it is worthless then isn't it if they can never use it? Trump is demanding the EU impose similar sanctions on Russian oil as the US has, but the EU refuses...and yet it's Trump who is Putin's stooge while the EU oligarchs are brave noble technocrats who oppose the Russian menace amirite?
>>522022052You are a useful idiot. How dense are you? Has the inkling you're being played settled in yet, or are you still in full denial and cope?
>>522022412Did Russia hack the 2016 election or not bro? What about the pee tape?
>>522022386>Canadians have no reason to dislike Russia anywayGive up, John McBurger
>>522020337When will the pigkraine stop losing?
Another “hohol” this time in israel
>>522022477Did they fuck with your elections? Absolutely. 100%. People went to jail for it. Is there a pee tape? Fucked if I know.
>>522022393Trump hasn't passed any new sanctions the EU has your point? Is always two more weeks with you goys. And you know it's bad when the EU, famous for being slow and doing nothing does more than the biggest economy in the world
>>522022586Sydney sweeney even starred in a movie about it kek Kinda ironic migatards now revere her
>>522022586Show us proof
>>522022516You do realise that half of Israel is from the former USSR, from both Ukraine and Russia, anon.
>>522022767He's just posting random accounts at this point
>>522022503Why should Canadians hate Russia tho? Becoming "friends" with America was Canada's biggest mistake.
>>522022753
>>522022767Yes, because jews got kicked out of the USSR.
>>522022827>Why should Canadians hate Russia tho? Becoming "friends" with America was Canada's biggest mistake.
>>522022837Now he'll say that doesn't count
>>522022753>PROOOOOFS bylathttps://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/
>>522022516>>522022320>>522022232Yet not in jeet niggerland, why is that, jeet nigger? KEKAROOO
>>522022868>>Why should Canadians hate Russia tho? Becoming "friends" with America was Canada's biggest mistake.
>>522022516jeet nigger?
>>522022944Funny all of those people were political prisoners of the democrat deep state AND ARE NOW ALL OUT OF PRISON
>>522022516Awfully quiet jeet nigger LMAO
>>522023033Hey jeet nigger, jeetnigger poster status? KEKAROOOO
>>522023033Kek. Some of them admitted it, anon. You're not a serious man. You're a useful idiot. You simp for a country that fucks with yours regularly and threatens to nuke you twice a day. Have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.
>>522023162>Actually thinking he's not a jeet niggerNGMI
>>522023198Kek. You might be right, Glenn.
>>522022586>People went to jail for itname 1
>>522023162notice how you have no evidence, only seethe?
>>522023329>name 1>>522022944Tiresome
>>522020910thanks for the (you)
Will she show her Mexican milkers when Putin is finally sent to hell?
>>522023162Majority of J6 political prisoners “admitted” guilt even though they were threatened and coerced Do me a big favor, say something negative about Muslims. Say all Muslims need to GTFO out of the UK and only Whites are truly English.
Shred ziggers to pieces
>>522021334NAFO is alive and wellNAFO supports TZDNAFO BROTHERS UNITEbeige roaches status: seething, coping, dilating
>>522023437How many rupees did you get for it? KEKAROOOO
>>522023660Can you do that in Pussia?
>>522023660Most of them admitted it over twitter
>>522023660>Say all Muslims need to GTFO out of the UK and only Whites are truly English.He will get visit from the police and nothing will happen to him. Say that in Russia and they will illegaly transfer you to Chechnya, where you get beaten on camera, transported to Chechnyan jail and forced to attend islamic indoctrination lessons, while the government completely ignores any of it ever happening.
>>522023784I live in NOVA, nigger. Muslims are an emerging problem in the US. In Michigan, Minnesota, Texas, Maine, specifically. They all have to go back, NIGGER
>>522023410i knew you couldn't
When can we expect some results from all my tax dollars
>tell UK flags to denounce Islam and immigration>they all disappear Lmao
>>522024244Piles of dead ziggers work?
>>522024282Denounce deez nuts and the talmud
>>522024244Best we can give you is fake numbers from the UK MoD and a weekly drone video of a hohol committing a war crime against a surrendering Russian
>>522024334Does Zelensky denounce the Talmud?
>>522024428He has a Christian wife and children, seems that he doesn't care about Judaism
>>522024428Shills can't denounce deez nuts or the talmud
>>522024480>>522024496Cope, kikelover
>>522024699Nope, I only like secular Jews
>>522024744So, you like anti-Christian libtard kikes
>>522020419asked about it last thread
>>522024616at least the pajeets agree on something
>>522024795I only like the non Zionist, non subversive ones
Rumor has it jeetleaf is settling in for breakfast
>>522024699See? You can't do it
>>522020337Spoke with my Ukrainian friend yesterday. He expressed cautious optimism about the new peace deal, saying it's actually quite reasonable and is probably the best case scenario for Ukraine. He's turning 25 next year, so he's been in constant fear of being drafted and sent to die like so many others before him.
>>522026046To be fair that was 4 or 5 'next current thing's ago
Can you tell me why russniggers are sending the few Whites left to mudslime niggers to be tortured for 14 years, because they burned the nigger quran? KEKAROOO
>>522024979Is that some jeet nigger cope I see? KEKAROOO
This is why /uhg/ is the best thing going for /pol/. I make jeet niggers emasculate themselves KEKAROOOO
AHAHAHA!!>The 28-point plan that is already being called the “Trump peace plan” was, from the very beginning, only a Russian proposal. However, it was leaked to the media and began to be discussed as an American plan. PBS News correspondent Nick Schifrin wrote about this on Saturday, November 22, on the social network X.>He referred to Republican Senator Mike Rounds, who learned the origin of this “peace plan” during a phone conversation with Secretary of State Marco Rubio.>It is noted that Rubio “made it very clear” that the United States is not the author but the recipient of this plan, which was delivered by Russian representatives.>“This is not our recommendation, this is not our peace plan. It is a proposal that was received. And as a mediator, we agreed to pass it along,” Schifrin quotes Rubio’s words as recounted by Rounds.>At the same time, the senator emphasized that the United States did not publish this proposal, but only, as a mediator, was supposed to pass it to the Ukrainian side so that Kyiv could give its response. However, the document was leaked to the media specifically as the “Trump plan.”>“We did not publish it (the document). It leaked. It was not published by our members or our representatives… This is an opportunity to receive it so that it could be used and handed over to the Ukrainians, and so they would have the opportunity to respond,” the report says.>The journalist does not provide any explanation from either Senator Rounds or Secretary Rubio as to how the United States will proceed now that, due to an error, the Russian proposals have become labeled as the “Trump plan.”Really, Dolan? It was merely a draft? Merely a suggestion? THEN WHY THE FUCK YOU GAVE UKRAINE 1 WEEK (btw what happened to 2-moar-weaks?) OF DEADLINE TO SIGHN IT OR ELSE??? FUCKING COCKSUCKING STUPID PEDO CLOWN! Putin is also stupid pedo clown but at least he didn't play on leather flute.
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOJEET NIGGERS, WHERE'S THE POKVORSK COPE? LMAO
>>522026638>it was leaked to the mediaby whom and why did the media fall for it?
>>522027042Probably Witkoff
>>522027122Why is that probable and why didn't you say why it was?
It's over
>>522027361So it's not captured? Why is pozzia so weak?
NATO if you don't get your ass to Pokrovsk I am going to hang myself out of shame. You faggots have no balls.
To scared to go to the front?We kill cowards around here.......How does that spike protein shake taste?
>>522027537If snownigeria was fighting NATO, we'd be looking at terrain maps of Moscow, not Pokrovsk. And not maps, but archives of maps, since the war would've been over years ago.
For God's sake, if anyone from the White House is reading this, please, for the love of God, first make sure Rubio double-checks anything Trump is signing with the russians, that proposal was offering US to REDUCE its nuclear arsenal at a time when China is building up its own, that's why he hired him.
>>522027537From>i-it was capturedto>concernfag larpKEKAROOOOO, 7000 a week btw
cheers to more TZD
>>522027984The fact we are looking at maps of some bum-fuck town in eastern Ukraine after nearly 4 years of war tells you something about russian military "competence".
>>522027984Don't worry NATO is a bunch of punk bitches too afraid to do any real fighting. The paper tiger of paper tigers.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1992350718016020480/vid/avc1/1280x702/6VarZ4fulikWMxAV.mp4
>>522026223Why aura is such a pidorette?
>>522020644>because they ultimately hate Trump even more than they hate Putin.Well hey now, I wouldn't go that far buddy
>>522028238she got too cocky, just like ziggers
>>522028412Hey, I am sorry NATO never helped you out like they should have. They are scared little bitches just flying around like retards.
>>522028175I love watching russniggerland burn KEKAROOO
>>522024616>>522023041>>522023017>>522022977oh it's bad...
NATO Generals going to work on Monday
>>522029416Russias similar but passed out with a vodka bottle
damage control is ongoingnow it's back to being a US proposalwhat an absolute clownshow.
>>522028365I'm not your buddy, pal.
>>522029685Man wtf is going on there
>>522028117At least we got to draft a lot of whites for the blood ritual tho
>>522029685tf is Zion Don doing?
>>522025745
>>522031644SAAR WHY YOU EXPOSE???
>>522020677Witkoff and Vance have shown time and time again that they're completely clueless retards regarding Russia. Witkoff has that Russian kike blood so no surprises, I'm not sure what Vance's problem is but he has no idea how to handle international relations.
Zelensky here. As you know our OP is a faggot who has transitioned to a dog and cut his dick off and ate. Also 4 Tyrone`s fucked me in the ass in the bunker today and life is good. Love and Kisses Z
>>522031288This AI slop hasn't exactly aged well. Israel mogged everyone in the ME pretty hard without US boots.
T Z D
guess they really underestimated how much blowback they'd get
>>522020677that's been pretty obvious for the past year (and longer for two of the people) that Vance, Witkoff, and Trump Jr. were the centers of ziggerdom in Trumps political orbit. This shitshow boils down to Witkoff and Vance concocting a plot to jam through Russia's version without Rubio and co. cucking them. so they leaked to the press pretending it was their plan which everyone had input on, which they didn't, and went straight to trump and got the okay to push it. no doubt they just dangled some keys, said "your nobel in sight trump!" and he ate it up.So now you have the hilarious situation where like 90% of the admin had no input on this shit sandwich but since trump went public owning it to some extent they're all having to claim that akshually it was totally our plan guys. But it's blatantly clear it's dead in the water, you'll notice in their backpedaling copium bashing the senators (and never, to be clear, is it a good sign to shiv senators like that for no reason lmao) gone is all talk of ultimatums and cutting off intel. The Russian reaction says it all really, they clearly think Dimitriev is pushing something that won't be accepted even as they enjoy the admins chaos
>>522033160how do you know it wasn't just a russian proposal to pass on to ukraine? the us is an intermediary in this conflict for some reason now.
>>522029685rubio can't actually openly admit it was a russian proposal because it makes trump looks like a senile retard. I mean he is kek but stillso he leaks it through senators to make it clear his real opinion and state the obvious. plus the added bonus of infuriating some senators against the white house
>>522033160What Trump fills the Trump Admin with clowns expect a circusEurope is Pissed, and the House and the Senate are fucking mad too, What with Taco do? Try to pretend that nothing happend? Blame Witkoff (Vitkoff) Blame his son-in-law tooEither way, he tried to force a surrender into Ukraine and tried to get the Rest of Europe to go ago with it, Taco is not only a idiot/Retard surrounded by retards, he's a fucking danger to Europe and the US!
moscow oblast, power plantziggeria is going to freeze
GOOOD MOOORNING MOSCOW
>>522033983 Moscow by candles how very romantic with romantic ass raping too includingCheeseburger-eating surrender monkeys Call it what it is: betrayal.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991934609190490317?s=20>>522033968>What will Taco do?>>522033968>the Rest of Europe to go along with it
>>522034081yebaaaaat blyaaaaaaad sukaaaaaaaaa pizdaaaa
>>522033983>>522034081Glorious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s_ECj3bZjg>>522033160Trump’s peace proposal includes using frozen Russian assets, mostly held in Belgium, for U.S.-led reconstruction, with 50% of profits going to the U.S. This enraged EU diplomats, who fear it jeopardizes a proposed EU loan to Ukraine. A senior EU politician bluntly said: “Witkoff needs to see a psychiatrist.”https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991937380216107321?s=20
>>522033983>>522034081Keep bombing the mosquew niggers until it looks like mumbai. OH wait, some parts already do KEKAROOO
Russia has launched over 112,000 Shahed‑type strike UAVs against Ukraine since the start of the full‑scale invasion, targeting residential buildings and civilian infrastructure and causing the deaths of children and other civilians, the Commander‑in‑Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces Syrskyi reported.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991940570428694868?s=20
>>522034158Trump: “Zelensky will have to approve the U.S. plan. If he doesn’t like it, he can keep fighting.”Unbelievable how much he just doesn’t care, a pathetic creature sidelining the fate of a nation.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991975267074711574?s=20
Reports from occupied parts of Donetsk region and the city of Donetsk say that power is out in most districts, Ukrainian drones hit substations, according to local channels.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991976025560150434?s=20>yesterday nighthttps://files.catbox.moe/3ngpy2.mp4
>>522034406>>522033160>>522033968President Trump said: “I think Ukraine should hurry to accept the peace plan, this winter will be cold. Zelensky will have to approve the American plan. If he doesn’t like it, he can keep fighting. I believe you know that if he doesn’t accept it, U.S. support will be withheld. I think peace between Ukraine and Russia is coming soon.”https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991976883739603092?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/e8l4g1.mp4Local channels in Crimea report a strike on a substation. Explosions are reported.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991983700284977386?s=20Explosions in occupied Simferopol as well. Explosions are reported there as well.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991984085733093648?s=20>yesterday nighthttps://files.catbox.moe/xoca5k.mp4
Reports from Crimea, specifically the Simferopol area, indicate a substation and a thermal power station (GRES) have been hit.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991986384316629425?s=20>yesterday nighthttps://files.catbox.moe/5nxu4n.mp4
>>522026638They say it was leaked but it was also formally delivered. European allies didn't hold meetings to discuss it, and respond to it formally, as well as Ukraine stating that it was received- based on a leak. US administration has developed face saving culture, and that's truly grim. But I guess it's for the best that they're backtracking after being told to shove it.
SitRep - 21/11/25 - Euromaidan started 12 years agoAn overview of the daily events in Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Twelve years after Euromaidan began, Trump is asking for a Ukrainian capitulation. Ukraine and also EU partners are now on their own. https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1991994725734465991?s=20
>>522026638>We did not publish it (the document). It leaked. It was not published by our members or our representativeslying tonight? Witkoff doesn't know what PM-ing or DM-ing is of tweeter, of course the Russians leaked it, it was their demands the Vitkoff called his own
>>522033968wait so Trump didn't even know that the plan the ukrainians got was the russian plan? and not the american one? KEK, wtf is going on
>>522026638>However, the document was leaked to the media specifically as the “Trump plan.”>>522033968 uhhuh>>522026638>And as a mediator, we agreed to pass it along50/50 split of shared US and Russian projects in occupied parts of Ukraine? Why would the Russhits offer that to the US? acting like "mediator" a "mediator " doesn't join in crimes of genocide and war crimes, oh wait that's was Witkoff and Trump's plan! Money for Greedy kikes
>>522033983YEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
>>522035358>>522035324>join in crimes of genocide and war crimes, oh wait that's was Witkoff and Trump's plan! Money for Greedy kikeshttps://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992000694946238689?s=20
>>522020337Russian losses per 22/11/25 reported by the Ukrainian General Staff+1170 men+4 tanks+7 ACVs+9 artillery+1 MLRS+1 AD system+222 UAVshttps://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992131712319656215?s=20>yesterday stats
Overnight, Russia launched one Iskander-M ballistic missile from occupied Crimea and 104 attack drones including Shahed, Geran, and others from multiple directions. Ukrainian air defense managed to shoot down or jam 89 of them. Hits were recorded at 15 locations.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992132466036130019?s=20
>>522035358>>522034953>>522034622>>522033968JD Vance outlines three goals for Trump’s Ukraine peace plan: stop the killing while preserving Ukraine’s sovereignty, make a deal acceptable to both sides, and prevent a future war. He calls belief in victory through more money, weapons, or sanctions a fantasy, and says peace needs realism, not failed diplomacy.Giving Russia what it wants, that's failed diplomacy.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992133252077818062?s=20
>>522035620Dan Driscoll, Trump’s new “special representative” and a longtime friend of JD Vance, led a senior US military delegation to Kyiv for talks with Zelensky. According to US sources, the group is expected to visit Moscow next week to discuss the peace plan, which Putin says could “lay the foundation” for ending the war.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992133611030454577?s=20
>>522035358>>522033968The White House peace plan is already facing strong resistance from both Republicans and Democrats. Senator Mitch McConnell warned Trump against appeasing Putin, calling for new advisors if that’s the case. Senator Roger Wicker criticized the plan as unrealistic and unacceptable if it means forcing Ukraine to cede territory. Senator Jeanne Shaheen called it a surrender deal written for Putin. Meanwhile, Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick is pushing to vote on new Russia sanctions despite House leadership. Pro-Ukraine rallies are planned across the US this weekend.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992133998256992620?s=20
Overnight drone strikes hit multiple targets in occupied Crimea, Saratov, Syzran, and Kursk region. Explosions were reported near a refinery in Syzran with casualties, and a power substation in Crimea and Rylsk was hit, cutting power to 3,000. Russia claims it downed 69 drones.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992134413413748887?s=20video 1https://files.catbox.moe/6md6fr.mp4video 2https://files.catbox.moe/prr7j8.mp4video 3https://files.catbox.moe/m50ad5.mp4video 4https://files.catbox.moe/8thzok.mp4
>>522035682Norwegian PM Jonas Gahr Støre confirmed that Europe is preparing a joint response to Trump’s Ukraine “peace plan.” Speaking from the G20 summit, he stressed that forcing Ukraine to give up territory violates its constitution. Europe aims to offer a counterbalance where the US proposal falls short.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992135514305032614?s=20
>>522033968>>522033160Trump believes Putin holds all the cards, and that Zelensky is bluffing with a losing hand. A leaked 28-point US peace plan, drafted without Ukrainian input, demands Kyiv shrink its army, drop NATO ambitions, and lift sanctions on Russia. Zelensky is under pressure, but Europe is stepping in with its own counterproposal.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992136359146885532?s=20>I wonder if Trump is going to be Out of office Before the Mid-terms?
>>522035682UK PM Keir Starmer says the path to a just and lasting peace in Ukraine must start from today’s reality, but stressed that Ukraine alone must decide its future under full sovereignty. “That’s a principle we must uphold,” he said.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992136750807072852?s=20>this is Politician speak for "fuck off, no offense"
>>522035886>>522033160>>522035358There is already mass protests for fico to fuck off in his countrySlovak PM Robert Fico says Bratislava will support the US peace plan for Ukraine, calling it bold and openly admitting Russia would emerge a full winner, morally and economically. “Within the minority Slovakia represents in the EU, I will back this deal,” he said, adding that the US wants Russia back among the great powers.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992140579312910671?s=20
>>522033968>>522033160>>522035358The Trump administration has given Ukraine until Thursday to accept the proposed peace deal, telling Kyiv officials: “We need to get this shit done,” according to the Financial Times.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992190143621390436?s=20>>522035620>>522035647>Dan Driscoll, Trump’s new “special representative” and a longtime friend of JD VanceBJ Vance was too much of a Pussy faggot to go to Kyiv himself!
>>522035358>>522026638This is going to go So well with the EU and Nato members, you have no fucking IdeaEurope is rushing to buy time for Ukraine after the US set a hard deadline for accepting its peace plan. Leaders from France, Germany and others are coordinating to rewrite key parts of the proposal without directly opposing Washington. German Chancellor Merz has already urged Trump to extend talks. EU leaders will meet at the G20 to craft a joint response.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992190514985046518?s=20
Ukraine has secured the return of 31 civilians from Belarus following successful negotiations led by the Coordination Headquarters. The group includes men and women aged 18 to 58, some of whom were serving sentences of up to 11 years. Several freed individuals suffer from serious illnesses.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992191024156881343?s=20pic 1https://files.catbox.moe/h5qzz6.jpgpic 2https://files.catbox.moe/0gflkd.jpg
>>522036286>>522036196Ukraine has formed a formal delegation for talks on Trump’s peace plan, including direct discussions with the US, international partners, and Russian representatives. The team is headed by Presidential Chief of Staff Andriy Yermak and includes NSDC Secretary Umerov, GUR chief Kyrylo Budanov, and other top defense and intelligence officials. Talks will take place in Switzerland.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992191839898636415?s=20
>>522036286>>522026638US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll warned NATO allies that if Ukraine doesn’t sign the peace deal by Thursday, the terms will become significantly harsher. Driscoll, now Trump’s special envoy on the peace plan, made the statement in Kyiv after talks with Zelensky, The Guardian reports.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992200772373692927?s=20>You know what this is, to Americans? this is the "Russia, Russia, Russia!" Impeachment trial ALL OVER AGAIN, and this time no fucking base to save him!
A fuel truck at a Rosneft gas station in Valuyki, Belgorod region, was set on fire after a drone strike. The fire was so intense that smoke was visible across multiple parts of the city.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992201588148969932?s=20pic https://files.catbox.moe/vzpi6h.jpgvideohttps://files.catbox.moe/jsdbyp.mp4
>>522020337Rare footage shows the Germany-supplied Skynex air defense system in action, targeting incoming Russian Shahed-136 kamikaze drones.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992202998924378265?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/f5o8vk.mp4
It was obvious that Trump is a retard and would take credit if the plan was good. The fact is there is a faction of pro-russian republicans that wants to be done with the whole issue.Namely people that find themselves aligned with america first.A lot of them blame biden for "leading" america into this mess and want america our of it.
>>522033968>>522035358>>522026638>>522036085Hungary’s PM Viktor Orbán backs the US peace plan, urging the EU to adopt it and start direct talks with Russia. The plan, which rewards Russian aggression, demands Ukraine give up land, halve its military, and share 50% of reconstruction profits with the US. Orbán also opposes any further EU financial aid to Ukraine.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992232370959716381?s=20>Of course Orban loves it, he's the Biggest kike in the EU, and it's Putin wrote it
>>522036763>A lot of them blame biden for "leading" america into this mess and want america our of it.Out of what? Selling weapons to the EU?
>>522036433Zelensky says Ukraine will soon hold consultations with partners on ending the war, stressing that true peace must be built on justice and guaranteed security, not rewards for aggression. “I’ve approved the delegation and directives. Our team knows what’s needed to prevent Russia from launching a third invasion,” he said.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992233027171189206?s=20>Imagine the pressure, of having to defend your Country, and having the Fucking Retard and his Admin in the White House, give you orders from far away with to do with your Own country, while they do Nothing but take orders from the Kremlin kikes! an play the game of waiting out the Orange Retard!
>>522036433>>522036286The EU has rejected key elements of the US peace plan, saying borders cannot be changed by force and voicing concern over proposals to limit Ukraine’s defense capacity. A high-level meeting between the EU, US, and Ukraine to discuss revisions will take place tomorrow in Geneva.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992284633426211043?s=20The Team took the bulletbut Witkoff is the one that let the cat of the bag of nature of the deal >>522034953 >>522035358 >>522026638 and who Leaked it, FUCK, We're lucky they are so Fucking Dumb!
>>522037070>>522036433NSDC Secretary Rustem Umerov and members of the Ukrainian delegation have arrived in Switzerland for negotiations with US officials on the proposed peace agreement.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992285427886375223?s=20>God I hope that Umerov and the Rest Rip the "US officials" a new fucking Asshole!
>>522037279>>522035682Polish President Karol Nawrocki says Trump’s peace plan must reflect the reality that Russia cannot be trusted to honor agreements. He insists any deal must be approved by Kyiv and warns that peace must not come at the cost of Russia achieving its strategic goals.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992285928337891594?s=20>even Nawrocki said Fuck you retards
>>522020337Ukraine’s Special Operations Forces claim it struck a Russian Mi-28 helicopter using a long-range FP-1 drone deep inside Rostov region, 180 km from the border. In the footage the moment of impact is not visible.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992286253023187142?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/7239jh.mp4
>>522037279European Council President António Costa has invited all 27 EU leaders to a special meeting on Ukraine, to be held on the sidelines of the EU-African Union summit in Luanda on Monday, November 24.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992286613251174768?s=20>that's going to be fun, Questions and names of what Trump really is,
>>522037279>>522037464German Chancellor Friedrich Merz made clear: “This war can only end with Ukraine’s full consent. It cannot be resolved by great powers over the heads of those under attack.” He stressed that Europe must be part of any solution and warned that Ukraine’s defeat would destabilize the entire continent. Merz said he told Trump directly that past Russian promises, like under the Budapest Memorandum, were broken, and new, stronger guarantees are now essential.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992287245189964097?s=20>Merz said Fuck you
>>522020337Russia stop the war and focus on chinkoid scums.
>meanwhileReports from Budyonnovsk in Russia’s Stavropol region indicate a large fire at the Stavrolen chemical plant, previously targeted by Ukrainian forces. The cause of the current blaze is yet to be confirmed.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992287889837707386?s=20
>>522037687 I think the Russhits should really pull every asset that have left in all of Ukraine, and worry about a Chinese invasion of Russia!>>522037691A power substation in Russian-occupied Donetsk region has been struck, according to local reports.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992288035493626066?s=20
>>522037783Reports from local channels say the Zuivska thermal power plant in occupied Donetsk region is under attack.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992298702376145264?s=20
>>522036595>>522036433>>522036196>>522035886>>522026638Emergency SAVE OUR ASSES is in Full effect!Key officials in the Trump administration were reportedly kept in the dark about the peace plan for Ukraine, which was privately drafted by Steve Witkoff and Putin’s envoy Kirill Dmitriev before being presented directly to Trump, Bloomberg reports.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992300430546915338?s=20
>>522020337 let there be light>>522037806More strikes on Russian-held infrastructure have been reported. In occupied Dokuchaievsk, Donetsk region, a hit caused a citywide blackout. Local sources confirm power is out following the impact.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992301750385361034?s=20>11hhttps://files.catbox.moe/1htaye.mp4
>>522037946 the darkness>>522020337 Danger Danger High Voltage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-FxmoVM7X4Another substation has reportedly been hit in Shakhtarsk, occupied Donetsk region. Local sources note disruptions.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992303440727351608?s=20pic 1https://files.catbox.moe/p74dou.jpgpic 2https://files.catbox.moe/csjjgx.jpg
>Pokrovsk holds!>Myrnohrad is not encircled!lmao
>>522020337 TRDPowerful strikes have been reported in occupied Crimea, where drones targeted an oil refinery. Local sources confirm multiple impacts.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992350814539759931?s=20>8hhttps://files.catbox.moe/3zqgb2.mp4
An example. In occupied Berdyansk, Russian-installed authorities have begun conscripting local residents, according to reports from the area.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992351230144946563?s=20>Give the Locals Guns, and hope they don't shoot you???
>>522036372>>522020337 HomeMaria Mysiuk, accused at just 16 of forming an anarchist group under alleged orders from Ukraine’s National Liberation Army, has returned home after being held in Belarus. She was charged with planning sabotage operations. A video shows her emotional reunion in Ukraine, welcomed personally by Kyrylo Budanov.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992351783595721098?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/lrnmvo.mp4
>>522020337 TZDOn the Kostyantynivka front, soldiers and UAV operators of the 3rd Battalion, 93rd Mechanized Brigade “Kholodnyi Yar” repelled another Russian assault.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992352165688725687?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/lrnmvo.mp4
Ukrainian drones are attacking Bryansk region. There are also reports of Ukrainian drones heading for Novorossyisk.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992358647884894599?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/8epkq8.mp4
Explosions also heard in Ryazan, Russia. Ukrainian drone strikes are reported.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992359480240263296?s=20>7hhttps://files.catbox.moe/hvs3fs.mp4
In Dnipro, a residential building caught fire after being hit by a Shahed drone. The blaze on the second floor left residents trapped inside their apartment, with witnesses attempting to help. Emergency services are on site.https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1992362230634197172?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/tjjt85.mp4
>>522035620>First plan for BJ Vance should follow is shut the fuck up!Any peace plan must stop killings while preserving Ukraine's sovereignty, be acceptable to both sides, and prevent war from restarting, US VP JD Vance said.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992153409278087631?s=20
Russian forces attacked the Orlivka international border crossing on Ukraine's border with Romania.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992155990930927862?s=20
Reports say there were explosions and drone activity in Syzran in Russia's Samara region overnight.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992159738625433662?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/eij253.mp4
>>522020337Oil piers in Tuapse partially resumed with two tankers docking November 20 after Ukrainian strikes on November 2 and 10, Crimean Wind reported. Rosneft's deep-water pier remains empty after attacks halted shipments and caused a major spill.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992161197156921457?s=20
>>522020489God save us from this orange baboon shitshow, I don't know anymore if he's doing this on purpose or out of sheer stupidity. He really is so easy to play, like a fiddle. They give him the script of how the plan looks. He reads it once, and then he's acting it out without any deeper thought, on the spot like a veteran actor. Let's just say, he really trusts his advisors.
Firepoint FP-1 drones account for 56 percent of targets hit by Ukrainian long-range drones and 51 percent of those launched, General Staff spokesman Dmytro Lykhoviy said. The FP-1 costs three times less than competitor Liutyi, allowing greater deployment.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992164846008520926?s=20pic 1https://files.catbox.moe/eq63hu.pngpic 2https://files.catbox.moe/d3n2at.jpg
>>522038789>Firepoint FP-1 drones account for 56 percent of targets hit by Ukrainian long-range drones and 51 percent of those launched, General Staff spokesman Dmytro Lykhoviy said. The FP-1 costs three times less than competitor Liutyi, allowing greater deployment.pic 2>>522038725 I'm not sure European leaders will show their rage is public, but everyone else including the press should be ripping them clown show in the white house a new one
>>522020337They should just fucking seize those Russian assets and fund the 100 Rafales for Ukraine with that.
>>522033478Everyone realizes he was lying about Project 2025, but now claims it was all 9D chess. This wouldn't have hurt him at all woih his base.Who else doesn't already know they're retarded? Our allies? Non-MIGA Americans? Russia and our other adversaries?
>Every Russian twitter account is from India>Every Pro-Russian American twitter account is from RussiaFunny but also very sad. I hate what the internet has become
>>522038978I do too, fellow burger
Drones targeted electrical substations overnight in occupied Donetsk and Krasnoperekopsk in Crimea, causing widespread power outages across multiple districts.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992166988097925456?s=20>20hhttps://files.catbox.moe/27ym21.mp4
This is not a peace plan for Ukrainehttps://x.com/richardbranson/status/1991868678451994885?s=20https://www.virgin.com/branson-family/richard-branson-blog/this-is-not-a-peace-plan
A Ukrainian border guard destroyed a rare Soviet PPRU-1 Ovod mobile air defense command vehicle with an FPV drone strike deep behind enemy lines in Donetsk region.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992177179615015306?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/9qhkrj.mp4
>>522020337Ukraine's Third Assault Brigade drone units eliminated five enemy Starlink terminals and struck fleeing Russian infantry in Kharkiv region.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992178962059894925?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/ch5yho.mp4
Ukraine's 10th Mountain Assault Brigade downed 11 Russian UAVs including two Lancets, one Orlan, three Zalas, four Molnias and one Supercam.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992180128059695417?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/hn0vl8.mp4
>>522020337Russian forces tried to push into the southern outskirts of Myrnohrad, a video from frontline reporter Yulia Kyriienko shows. Their morning infantry assault on motorcycles was stopped and the attackers destroyed, according to the report.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992183717910008074?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/dndujw.mp4
Kneecap ziggers
>>522020337Zelensky's crooked regime isn't worth dying for.
>>522039877true, this is why russian soldiers should go homepic unrelated, just mosque regime blowing up moscow power plants
>>522039996>true, this is why russian soldiers should go homeThey are home. Ukraine should exit the Donbass and go back to Ukraine.
>>522020419>/uhg/ fell for it>russia writes peace plan>pissplan sent >usa leaks piss>'drink own piss?'>russia rejects own pisslmao
>>522038885I suppose it will only fuel the military division between EU and US, which will lead to economic divisions as well. When EU will not have to look back for what US has to say, EU will start to talk and decide world matters by itself instead. EU let US talk and decide, because US was smart about it. That was the compromise politicians worked out few decades ago. But now, we are going back politically to Suez Canal. I expect EU allying China. China doesn't flip every 4 years.
>>522040050Then welcome home. Enjoy the complimentary drones
Ukraine is the worst place for Russians to retire at, why does the mosque regime keep sending grandpas there?
>>522039877KEKAROO good video
>>5220204892nd army in the world!NA BERLIN!
>>522021654saaar
>>522026638oh wow, a scandalous political thing released by "anonymous sources" online turns out to be complete bullshit manipulated by some side for their benefit.how are people still falling for this? fucking heads of state fell for it. how is everyone all still this fucking dumb?how about we actually wait for this shit to actually be released through official channels, huh? maybe that is what official channels are actually for and, if they aren't russian, they actually have some basis in what the actual factual situation is.how many times people? how many motherfucking times will it take for russia to "leak" some scandalous thing about Trump/republicans that democrats and euros want to believe that later turns out to be them manipulating the situation for you to learn how they are? rusnigs don't have a side. they want to sow dissent and division in the west. that is all. fuck.
>>522041625True, people should stop doing thisI think next Thursday is a good deadline for this
>>522020489the way I heard it was that Witkoff and Don junior were in secret talks with Dimitriev, who gave them the list and then they just got it translated into English and gave Trump to sign off as the peace plan. Supposedly most of republicans, Rubio included, didn't know about it but it's also not technically a leak since trump did back it up. Complete shitshow lmao
>>522020337TzD
>>522040153French were right, Europe needs to aim for strategic independence.
>>522020419Your tax dollars were used to pay for the meeting by the way
>U.S. officials who met with Rustem Umerov say President Zelensky may be open to compromise on several key issues in a potential peace agreement with Russia, - WP, David Ignatius>Ukraine may be willing to consider giving up parts of the Donetsk region in exchange for a settlement.>Kyiv has indicated it might accept a cap of 600,000 troops, though U.S. officials say this limit could be revised or removed.>As an alternative to stronger security guarantees, the United States is weighing the option of providing Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles if a deal is reached.Look at this. More fake shit "leaked" by the US media. For what? Some clicks? Fearmongering? A couple million rubles?
>>522042533>>Kyiv has indicated it might accept a cap of 600,000 troopsnot going to happen unless Kyiv is surrounded by poccians.>Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles if a deal is reachedsome missles as sec guarantees? are they fucking crazy lmao???
>>522042533All of that is clearly bullshit, if anything they're pretending they're discussing it so they don't look like they're immediately rejecting it. Basically all of that is a non-starter for Ukraine because it's just the war continuing as it is while instantly losing territory and being in a worse position. The US won't ever give them anything useful anyway and there will never be any guarantees so that point is moot too.
>>522020480I'm not even surprised.
>>522035620In the war between russia and Ukraine the first to surrender was the United States
>>522036839
>>522020337TZD
>>522042533I swear its the fucking media putting words in the orange man's mouth too
>>522042533media has always been retarded
i'll baek one
>>522029685America is a laughing stock. Absolute shit show of a nation.
>>522043496>>522043496>>522043496>>522043496
>>522034081Burn ziggers, freeze ziggers, blow ziggers to pieces.
