ULTRA HAPPENING! U.S. senators confirm that Trump’s surrender plan for Ukraine was written by Putin, and the Russians handed the plan to Trump through Trump’s close friend and Jewish real estate developer Steve Witkoff!Witkoff is an ethnic Russian Jew, his family was from Russia.https://twitter.com/ralakbar/status/1992368578482610642
>>522040262So what? Putin is based
>>522040262lol that stupid war is still going on
>>522040262The Russian government has provided the US government with a peace plan they will accept, and the US government has passed it on to the Ukrainians. Russia is winning, they get to decide what terms they'll stop under, since Ukraine and NATO are unable to stop them.
>>522040359Winning like the Russians won in Afghanistan?Just two more weeks, lmao.
>>522040308
WTF? The victor can set the terms for peace? This is fucking unprecedented.
>>522040492russia isn't losing soil.
>>522040492>memeflag pretends he's not israelilmao, cope however you want, Russia's winning hard.
>>522040262>ULTRA HAPPENING>DEMOCRAT MEMEFLAG>be a giant fag this place is pozzed out of this dimension, where did the real anons go I want off this faggot ride
>>522040724Oy vey, now that’s a good goy and Putin shill.
>>522040492>mfw nafoids invented the two weeks meme that haunts them ever sinceTwo more weeks until Russia runs out of stolen golden toilets from the Zelensky residence or something
>>522040262So eternal war for Ukraine? well not eternal, Z the Jewish Midge is already whining about running out of ukrainian goyim to send to die so it won't be much longer anyway.History will mock these retards for not accepting peace when it was still viable.Not my problem.
>>522040620Becoming a Chinese slave colony and even a poorer shithole is winning? lmao.
>>522040787We're all still here it seems, remember that april fools day event where they forced us all back to /b/ and it was like the old days again? Remember how when 4chan went down for a few weeks we all went to other chans and the shills didn't follow us? Turns out the newfags stayed cancer and just grew in number until they outnumbered us.>>522040830show flag
>>522040517Show flag hohol
>>522040872Cope harder, it’s like day 1,370 of the 2-day special military operation.
>>522040920nobody believes you, nafo tranny. Also, everybody stopped caring years ago
>>522040923>>522040948>show flag!
>>522040948I'm pretty sure he's an Israeli refusenik or the child of refuseniks. >>522041020I am showing my flag, and we all know what your flag is. Memeflags might as well be Israeli flags.
>>522040262it's just 14 days
>>522040988Okay, Mary from Texas.
>>522041020>shitposting will save hoholistan from capitulatingKek, see you on thursday when zelenskike signs it
>>522040262who leaked it?
>>522040262The EU should stop whining, seize the Russian assets and grow some fucking spine. Don't expect help from Murica, it's compromised. You are gonna have to put on big boy pants and finish this yourselves.I wish we could help more I hate ziggers but my government is beholden to Krasnov.
>>522041050Surprise, motherfucker!
>>522041120Witkoff and Vance.
>>522041228Denn du bist, was du isstUnd ihr wisst, was es ist
>>522041228Pedokraut or a BND shill you name it
>ultra happening!Regular diplomacy. Washington needs to approve Moscow’s peace treaty before handing it to their vassal. Since the United States isn’t formally Ukraine’s suzerain it would be awkward if Russia were found to have delivered Russian terms to Washington first before Kiev, so a third-party has to be utilised.
One way or the other the conditions of Ukrainian surrender will be defined mostly by Russia.
>>522041207>jews should do state theftlmao
>>522041458
>>522040262I don't recall USA fighting so no shit Putin is the one making the plan, dumb nafo tranny
>>522041228>written by kike poodlesseriously UK should just close its borders
>>522041571amusing seeing hans cope online while he's afraid to go take a walk in his city
>>522040262Let it play out on the battlefield and whoever wins, wins. Stop whining about muh plans and norms. The most whiny cuck conflict ever
>>522041542If Jews were on Ukraine's side they would be funding it. they refuse to share their miltech. Even us donated more to Ukraine than Israel did.
>>522041497>bongoloid who actually understands fuedalismWhat the fuck? You should troll your fellow bongoloids by saying if the Russians conduct the Livery of Siesen they'll legally own the donbass.
>obvious russian asset acts like russian assetwoa dude that's like so crazy
>>522041623Brainless retard, lmao.
>>522040262Anything that is not complete capitulation on our side is the “Russian wish list” according to Ukrainian kikes. To the last Ukrainian.
>>522040988Everything he said is the absolute truth, you stinking pajeet
>>522040308Putin and russia are cockroaches, not surprised a shitty third worker has his tongue up his arse
>>522040492You'll never be a man, and you were always going to lose that war. Jew or poo,we can't tell you apart.
>>522040262So? You lost, trannie
>>522042579Complete capitulation being acceptable to the Ukraine is a Russian talking point. Ukraine will not stop until every non-jewish Ukrainian is dead. This is punishment for the Soviet Union refusing to allow certain Russian Jews to emigrate to Israel.
>>522042579I mean these retards literally won't take anything less it seems I just don't want them to drag us in it.I'm not fighting Russians for an anti-white shithole like Europe. Fuck that.
>>522040262Of course Russia wrote it. They’re winning.
>>522040262Only brown subhumans (especially jeets) support Russia.
>>522040262If this is true, this is sedition at the highest level, and Trump should be prosecuted and removed from office. It's not true though, is it?
>>522040262And? Russia and Ukraine are the ones fighting, so they're the ones that ultimately decide. And Ukraine was always in the weaker position. And I don't see any other countries making any real effort to help end things.
>>522043712>should beyes. but who is going to prosecute him? his own sycophantic DOJ?come on, kike, try harder.
putin is a cuck for not demanding ALL of the regions he annexed in full. imagine declaring "this is now a part of Russia" and then 3 years later be like "oh nvm, we're giving up on those pieces"
>>522043221>>522043234We can only hope that Zelensky will be overthrown before NATO decides to start WW3. Ukraine will not exist as it did before either way so I don't understand why they are resisting. I guess it's hard to do something like that after years of propaganda saying “Ukraine will definitely beat Russia”
>>522046040>I guess it's hard to do something like that after years of propaganda saying “Ukraine will definitely beat Russiahilarious kremlin cope. those retards but off more than they can chew and are blaming everyone but themselves.
>>522040262>russian jewAre you also a jew ? If not, you will be arrested for high antisemitism, you stupid Leftarded Goy
>>522047065>high antisemitismgreater antisemitismarcane antisemitismabyssal antisemitismnature antisemitismhealing antisemitismlight antisemitismdark antisemitismarch antisemitism
>>522045373he got a list of demands from Russia and tried to come up with a solution, it's a bit different from having Russia write the surrender documents
>>522046040Russia is a poor, weak, warmongering shithole.
>>522040262You dont want to have a peace with us?Okay, good for us.We just gonna kill and destroy even more of Ukraine. Not a big deal.
>>522040492>AfghanistanInvading this shithole back in 1979 was a mistake in the first place. Soviet Union did a lot of mistakes, but we are not Soviet Union anymore.
>>522040262>leaked>literally the conditions russia has publicly demanded since before the war begango back to redit you nafo kike
>>522040262What a surprise !
>>522040359this will escalate to infinity.
>>522041695Israel is on Russia side. They never gave anything to Ukraine and instead supported Russia at the UN.
>>522040262curse the day drumph was dumb enough to think epstein was his friend. pootin really does have the media of drumph giving "bubba" a bj
because putin has photo of trump sucking bill's dick its over for hohols
Anyone have that webm of Putin kissing the Quran? I love it when the anti-globohomo mega based midget raised by a single mother and the local chabad-lubavitch jews talks about Russians having to accept multiculti.
>>522040308Putin is based because he killed the most Russians since Stalin.
>>522040262That means more subhuman hohols will die. Good.
>>522040620Russia is losing oil tho
Trump was elected specifically for his connection to Putinamericans love Putin and would gladly elect him as US president, he has massive support among them
>>522048930your country spends billions to buy F16's and F35's and leopards from germany because big strong russian men scare you so much. by your own logic you are also a "subhuman hohol">>522048982poles love putin and big strong russian men more. you fantasize about russians raping your women and owning your anus holes again like they used to. disgusting cucks
>>522048930Poles are the biggest whiny faggots in all of europe. Your country exists purely as a warmongering tool. Why are so many of you obsessed with war with Russia? When you know for a fact that Russia would never dream of invading NATO straight up..If you groids get your way, then your country will be annihalated like it should have been decades ago.I have never met a group of more faggy, whiny euros. Go make your own weapons and fight your own war, you fucking pussy.It's funny because I went to poland in the 2000s, and It was so cheap, and everyone was so nice. Go there in the late 2010s and my german cousin gets a fucking swastika drawn on their hotel room door.You are the niggers of europe. STFU and enjoy your peace, instead of beggingfor, and edging over war.
>>522049327based
>>522049327war is progress u dumb weak cunt that's the reason why canada was conquered by india so easily because u are no fighter
>>522040262So Putin, not Trump, will win the Nobel Peace Prize in 2026?He played Donald, he played him hard.
>>522042579Your complete capitulation is inevitable. Should have surrendered earlier.
>>522040262Kek, you removed Dmitriev being a jew. Listening, shill?)
>>522047645What modification did Trump make exactly?I can't see a single point that doesn't benefit Russian and leaves NATO defenseless.
>>522040308ChabadLubavitch
>>522047787Aka a Slavic country.
>>522040262What do this people think the mediation would be? That Trump would tell putin that he needed to backflip into the sun and let greater Isreal take over Russia?It was always going to be "I'm going to give you russias plan, and then we dicuss it.". That's how every negotiation goes.
>>522040359There's literally 0 reason for ukies to accept an unconditional surrender deal.
>>522040620They didn't in Afghanistan either.
>>522051407On the other hand once russia collapses they will have to accept an unconditional surrender deal.
>>522040262You can leverage ruskies if ruskie nationals start to misteriously disappear en masse. 10 ruskie nationals misteriously disappeared this week in Spain, 10 ruskie nationals misteriously disappear in New York this week, 10 ruskie nationals misteriously disappear in Germany this week. All because of chimping out by the government. The ruskie nationals need to pay for the chimp outs.
>>522042579It makes sense. You attacked them and killed their people and now they won't stop until either you are gone or them. In both cases you end up losing way more than what your little game expected to get out of it at the start.A smart man would just have pulled out of it a while ago but Putin fell for sunk cost fallacy and is now ruining the future of Russia over one random shithole that is clearly not going to surrender no matter what Afnagistan led to USSR falling apart. Ukraine is already way worse for Russia. You can't even imagine what happens with Russia after war is over and you are only making it worse.
>>522051407Are you retarded? The reason is for people to stop dying. Yes it does set them up for a precarious position for the future but that's a gamble which outcome is not known, yet the outcome of continuing the war is guaranteed to result in more people.You need to realize that there is a muslim factory creating infinity churkas in the caucasus, Russia will not run out of them.Meanwhile Ukraine is at the point of losing so many young men that its viability as a functioning state is already at a great risk.It doesn't matter that Ukraine has held on well and produced great casualties to Russia their situation is quite similar to what ours was back in the day, Russia will not run out of men and they can keep sending them forever which ultimately would grind Ukraine down.It's also not an unconditional surrender deal either that would mean Russia would be hands-free to do as it pleases, there are literally conditions in the deal, so what the fuck are you talking about?I am not saying that it is a good deal because obviously it is not, but I don't think they're getting a better one, at least not as long as Putin is alive if he dies then all bets are off and anything can happen.
>>522041578So the US has reduced itself to the role of Pony Express? But the Ukrainian proposals aren't being delivered to Moscow.
>>522051875If you want people from stop dying you have to tell puttin to pull his forces out, very simple
>>522051875>I am not saying that it is a good deal because obviously it is not, but I don't think they're getting a better one, at least not as long as Putin is alive if he dies then all bets are off and anything can happen.If putin dies in any way the ukranians are fucked. Putin is soft by russian standards and he's constantly criticized for entertaining the peace process and not going scorched earth on ukraine.
>>522051814>You can't even imagine what happens with Russia after war is overIt's been written>Day of the Oprichnik (Russian: Дeнь oпpичникa, Den' oprichnika) is a 2006 novel by the Russian writer Vladimir Sorokin. The narrative is set in the near future, when the Tsardom of Russia has been restored, and follows a government henchman, an oprichnik, through a day of grotesque events.>The principal revenue for the Russian state is taxing the Chinese businessmen who sent their products on vast convoys of trucks to Europe via the highway.[12] Everything that is used in Russia is manufactured in China leading characters to bemoan "We make children on Chinese beds!" and "We do our business on Chinese toilets!"[11] Unlike Behind the Thistle where Russia and China are equal partners in an alliance to uphold Asian values, it is strongly implied in Day of the Oprichnik that Russia and China are not equals with the more wealthier and powerful Chinese being the senior partners and Russians the junior partners in their alliance.
i imagine trump sucked bill's cock till his balls FUUUUCK cocksucker
>>522052131Sounds like non-fiction.Except there is no reason for China to use trucks passing through Russia instead of just using ship.
>>522052090forget about what the russian propagandists in television say they dont have any power its just theatrewhat really matters is what the actual rulers of russia the jewish oligarchs thinkthey were thinking of a quick payday taking over the vast mineral and oil resources discovered in the east of ukraine, didnt sign up for years of a slogfest, sanctions and lost revenue>inb4 oligarchs already has enough oil and mineralsif you think "enough" is in jewish vocabulary you have lot to learn about the jewish mindthe thing is the kikes really don't like having their superyachts forcibly moored and getting their western assets seized and funds frozen and investments sanctionedso if putin dies i'd say its likely he would be replaced with someone that quickly stops the war and normalizes relations to get rid of the sanctions because ukraine simply wasnt and isnt worth itwhy i said "all bets are off" though is because maybe the conspiracy theories about wanting to ethnically cleanse ukraine and turn it to a "new khazaria" are true after all, in which case they would want to continue and annihilate as much people as possible before turning it into a resource hub and farmland for israel, because israel has realized that their current only source of income is theft from other countries and they really dont have any farmland nor resources of their own and if it would ever happen that the Western world would save itself from jews and implement national socialism and the jews would be cut off, they would be fucked as it stands right now
>>522052677 checked> you think "enough" is in jewish vocabulary you have lot to learn about the jewish mindThis gem is worth remembering.
>>522052677oh right and >inb4 its the ukrainians who are the jewish sidethey are too, indeed the entire ukro government is jewish. which makes the propagandist speeches about "de-nazification" even more hilariousthey have been already caught embezzling hundreds of millions from the war funds and that is just what has been uncovered the real figure is in the billions, and the jews of USA instructed the USA govt to drop the clause in the peace plan about having to audit the aid funds because that would cause worldwide anti-semitism, as truth always doesbut see, while jews are a monolith, they also have sub-jewries that can compete against each other which is the case in russia and ukraine, both are ruled and owned by jews but different clans.it makes sense to think of the jews as the largest 20-million strong criminal organization in the world.if we take for example comparison south american cartels, all of them want the same corruption of officials so they would look other way and not intervene in the crime, that goal is shared by all the cartels even though they compete with each other.similarly the goal of multiculturalism in other people's countries so jews won't get kicked out and their fight against national socialism is shared by all the jewry, but that doesnt mean that different cliques of jews never compete with each other and even backstab each other.actually quite the contrary, the second jews dont have some common enemy to band against they will immediately turn into backstabbing each other for personal profits
>>522040920It's only the west that propagates this lie lmao it's like the master cope: Ukraine will be destroyed and transformed in Belarus 2.0 but hey, Russia is a Chinese vassal, we totally won!!!
>>522051875>The reason is for people to stop dyingThey want to die. That's what people need to understand about Slavs. They love death. This all should have happened centuries ago.
>>522053126"de-nazification" = white genocide
>>522040568>The victor
>>522053126and again speaking of competing interests between different jewries, sure the russian oligarch jews that have their yachts being held and assets frozen might be mad at that situation, on the other hand all the jews invested in the military-industrial complex are having fat paydays, its not just the weapon deliveries to the war itself but the "threat of russia" has now made it that all the order books are full for new weaponry militaries being refurbished in europe billions and billions of dollars of profits being made by arms industry when tax money is being poured in the military and trump even got his 5% nato expenditure passed so the military industrial complex is having a payday not really seen since the second world warjews are not only today but also historically always been war profiteers. and considering the russian jews are now mostly conducting their business from israel which is not sanctioned, even those who currently have their yachts held and some of their visible western funds frozen they can continue to trade and make money via israeli banks like nothing happened, so there is of course a high possibility that the russian side jews are also making so much money from the war that even with the hassle of sanctions its not really that hard at all going around them using israel so they might also want to keep it goingthis is why its hard to make a decisive statement what is actually going to happen do the oligarchs want to end the war or not, on the other hand there is hassle of sanctions, on the other hand there is massive profits made by investment to the war and embezzling the aid funds, and there is still even the chance of the "new khazaria" theory being true too. its simply impossible to know whats true unless someone went and captured all the worlds richest jews and tortured them for information
why call it a white list thenjews arent white
>>522040894What amount of land would you give to Russia if they started bombing your state? I mean you can't just have a war, that'd be crazy, people will die. You have to give them what they want
>>522053548I think you're too fixed on the jews here (a sentence I never thought I'd type) Russia isn't going to stop until they feel the security issue, that is, the collective west trying to defeat russia, has been solved.
>>522040308Jeet on a VPN?
>>522040262if you win in the field you get the country? what did you think was going to happen?tired of delusional cunts have been consistent on the ukraine thing since 2014 onlineukraine makes a deal or faces a lost century, turns out I was even optimistic then
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>>522040568How's Moscow doing without power today?
>>522053798russia is going to take donbas, so ukraine isn't giving anything up other than saving lives of their own. this is generally considered their minimal objective when it comes to land taken.
I just don't give a shit. No matter what I read about this, I just can't bring myself to care. It's impossible.
>>522053947So I'll pose the question to you as well.If Russia started bombing your country, would you reward them?
>>522053947Ukraine has to give up their defense lines, half their army, all long range weapons and NATO isn't allowed to give them any military aid in the future.It would be silly of Russia not to take the rest of Ukraine after making them such sitting ducks.
>>522040262When you lose a war, the other side does tend to make the demands.See, Putin has all the cards. Trump knows you either fold on your hand and give up the pot, or keep betting and lose everything.
>>522054033it's not rewarding them if they're going to take it on their own. giving them something that they won't be able to take is rewarding them.
>>522054033This is very, very naive black and white take to a a complex geopolitical situation.Completely disregarding everything that lead up to the invasion.
>>522054033you're talking like ukraine has a choice. They don't. They're losing donbass no matter what.
>>522054080Ukraine serve more as a buffer zone for Russia than it would as Russian state. It is within Russia interest to keep Ukraine as 'independent and sovereign country' that is within its sphere of influence.
>>522049327We don't talk to Indians.
>>522053798I'm American so we would just win. >But but my country is weak and pathetic we can't win!So you have to make concessions. That's how it works, get over it. The silver lining is that your government losing power is good for you. Of course Slavshits will never understand that, hence the dictatorships that are endemic among your kind.
>>522054155Even so it's much better to inflict maximum losses on Russia and win some time to build a new line of defense further back.Just handing the enemy your best defended position and opening the road to your capital is pretty much the most retarded "strategy" you can imagine.
>>522054212In russias shoes I would take the rest of dobass, take odessa to get that land bridge to transnistria then call it a day. Attempting to occupy the rest of ukraine where they're not wanted would be way too much of a headache.
>>522054033started/? it was a response for ethnic cleansing of russians in donbass same shit happened with chechens and about the land this much https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet%C4%81lavaand there wouldn't have been any bombing at all but you gotta have some brains and not being a slavshit to do so so yeah ukraine case was a lost one from the get go
>>522054130>Uuuuuh it's like sorry complex ok?So you can't answer the question >>522054155If Russia could win on the battlefield they would have already. So you can't answer the question either
>>522053947>russia is going to take donbas11 years and counting
>>522054379Are you like 12 years old?
>>522054249>I'm American so we would just win. You can't do that, then people will die and you will start ww3.You have to just give in to Russia
>>522054212Russia will take all of Ukraine, murder every Ukrainian male and rape every Ukrainian female.Best interest or not it's how Russia always acts.
>>522040308Kill Pajeets
>>522054420I take that as a yes. I'm glad you understand Ukraine's perspective now
>>522040262>It's the victor wishlistYeah, welcome to warfare since the beginning of time.>"no, ukrainians are winning, 60000000/1 Kd ratio, drones, meatcubes!"Then why are you freaking out about that wishlist?
>>522054562>FranceSpoken as a true surrendermonkey LOL
>>522054562It's just pointing out how Putin has blackmail on Trump. He pretends to be neutral in the conflict but literally just takes orders from Putin
>>522054562it's not even a russian wishlist. I doubt handing 100 billion of russian assets to ukraine or turning the territory they've captured into a demilitarized zone or putting trump in charge of the whole thing would be on their wish list.
>>522054371fuck off from latvia, vlad
When will you fucking hohols learn that we need at least some of you to survive so you can start working off your fucking debt? We ruined our economies to keep you in the meat grinder and you sold the next 200 fucking years of your countries future to sustain the grind. We would very much like to cash in, because the money lenders are starting to doubt you will ever be able to pay it back.
>>522040262Have y'all read the plan? It's funny that America is treating NATO as an external party, Americans have checked out, it seems.>4. A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation in order to ensure global security and increase opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.
>>522054788>We ruined our economies to keep you in the meat grinderIs that the newest Green narrative?
>>522054632>>Netherland>Combat start: 10 May>Surrender: 15 MayIndeed, my brother in surrendermonkeying.There is thing called "not dying in a trench for kikes' interest": we both know it's pretty neat, so don't deny it to others.
>>522054371>ethnic cleansing of russians in donbassNever happened but they deserved it.
>>522055034he's probably talking about europe committing economic sudoku by cutting themselves off from cheap russian energy. Now they're completely fucked. That was so fucking retarded.
>>522055051If Russia bombed your country, would you surrender and give up your country?
>>522054435Well that would already be ww3 but I guess that's pedantic. The point is that we don't have to give in because we are a powerful country. Ukraine is a weak country. For a while some other countries have propped it up to some extent, mainly for the purpose of weakening Russia. We were never going to have ww3 for Ukraine. Cry about it all you want but this is how countries work.
>>522040262The Ukrainians have to accept reality at some point. Sooner is better. It’s good that the Russians have a plan. Trust The Plan, Donkey. Trust the plan.
>>522043376Don't post under my flag you foreign kremelin piece of shit.
>>522055145>he's probably talking about europe committing economic sudoku by cutting themselves off from cheap russian energy.lol you literalyl believ anything the Greens tell you.If Merkel (russian agent) hadn't ended nuclear power we wouldn't need russian gas at all.Now, I don't want to say I'm 100% sure that the end of nuclear power and building of Nordsttream was a preparation of russian agents for the Ukraine war but the timing of it all makes you wonder.
>>522040262I don't see a problem with this, what so ever
>>522055235>Well that would already be ww3It would be if you fought back, but you don't have to.You should just let Russia have whatever they want to prevent ww3 and save countless millions of lives
>>522040262Basically, Putin, Trump, and Zelensky are all chabad and committing white genocide.
>>522054762vlad already fucked off from Latvia cause we weren't as dumb as retarded slavshit in ukraineyou give up russky land and you join EU and NATO it wasw easy as that but dumb hohols couldn't figure it out sucks being a slavshit they gotta have that extra chromosome cause i can't see any other logical reason for being that stupid as the yare
>>522051875>Are you retarded? The reason is for people to stop dyingSurrender to Russians wouldn't stop that.See Katyn, Bucha etc
>>522055470Only slavs are dying so far, those aren't white.
>>522055151if i was ruled by genocidal kikes who were kidnapping people off the streets, i would accept any resolution that saw to their immediate pogromming
>>522055327who does your bald blackrock guy who cries over the holocaust work for?
>>522040262And? >>522040308Fpbp
>>522055695Man I don't wanna be that guy but lmaoKeyboard warrior
>>522055688Mutts think they are white tho. Just look at the reaction when that nog killed that fertile Ukrainian girl
>>522055151If we had lost the same % of our fighting-age population as Ukraine did, of fucking course.Even fucking *Rome* learned to tone down the bravado after Canae, and it was only half as bad as what Ukraine got slapped with.Learn to take the loss, endure, rebuild & reform, prepare your children and grandchildren for round 2. Early Rome did it after getting buttfucked by the Gauls.Gauls did it after getting buttfucked by Peak Rome.Germany did it after getting buttfucked by WW1.That said, France's nuclear doctrine isn't M.A.D - it's to use nukes as warning shots.If our situation is ever half as bad as Ukraine that mean our nuke arsenal already got emptied and somehow that wasn't enough to stop the invasion - meaning whatever's going on, it's not a bunch of dudes in trenches that will change anything beside getting killed for the other side's amusement.
WHERES BUBBA?
>orange retard and his gang have turned the US from no.1 superpower who had a say in anything to a cuck nation that receives instructions from subhuman slavs and obeysLmao no wonder the vatniks are gloating. US is officially no.1 cuck nation of the world atm. Given their constant cucking to israel they are no.1 cuck goys tot the power of 2. Congrats to the orange retard and to all the americans on here, you are oficially a laughingstock
>>522040334What can you do when ziggers gonna zigg?
>>522040428So glad Dems and the CIA are actively trying to sabotage peace deals with Russia
>>522055009Yeah.>A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the biggest member of NATOThat's pretty funny ngl.
>>522056172Trump just wants to shit out a deal so he can claim he solved it and also cope himself into thinking he’s a good person. Nigga fears St. Peter and rightfully so.
>>522056172Whoever really runs america just can't accept that their dream of completely conquering the world is over. Instead of bowing out tactfully they're going to go down kicking and screaming.
>>522055436>but you don't have toWell of course we don't, every other country in the world is obligated to come help us. That's how it works right? Or is that a special privilege just for little Slavic backwoods bumfuck countries?
>>522056589You're obligated to surrender, that's how it works right? Or is there special privilege for mutts?
>>522051407"To the last Ukrainian", eh, Lil' Z?
>>522040920Chinese websites and culture banned in Russia. Their shops and products get heavy taxed
>>522040308FULL STOP
>>522056516It's going to come out eventually that Biden and Obama were paid off by the CIA and foreign countries to overthrow Ukraine and that's what they're covering up
>>522053798That isn't the situation. The situation, for America, would be "the Russians have already conquered the entire east coast from Maine to Florida, and made inroads into the Midwest. They're bombing Colorado now, and California is your last major state."In that situation, with half the country already lost and us just simply not having the boots to occupy the space? A conditional surrender would sound MIGHTY fine. The alternative is to hold out, lose California and millions more men, and then be forced to take an UNconditional surrender.Ukraine lost this war years ago. They keep fighting because they're stubborn and retarded. A conditional surrender is the best offer they're ever going to get, because winning for them is mathematically impossible. If they refuse, Russia will inevitably take Kiev, and then it's gallows for the top guys. It would be executions for the lower ranks too, except they just straight up don't have any lower ranks - they're kidnapping literal old grandpas to conscript them, they're gonna leave Ukraine completely unpopulated and their women will be taken as war brides.They've. Lost. Don't you retards get it?
Oh well. The EU is picking the plan apart right now and will probably kill it. Had Trump prepared better he could have succeded. Russia will not agree to the new demands and the war will likely continue with or without US support. What a shitshow, kek.
>>522040262Dumb fucking KIKE.Witkoff already CONFIRMED that "muh, 28-point plan" was leaked by Kellogg.Fuck YOUFuck Israeli Barak RavidFuck Israel and their AZOV
>>522057637>with or without US supportYeah, you Europeans are really contributing a lot to their defense. You don't need us. I agree with your plan to have the US fuck off. Good luck!
Trump will forward the proposal to zelensky if he doesnt want those bubba pictures to leak oh he already did forward it? hahahaha
>>522057717You produce, we pay. How its been for a while now. Sadly for the West your president is inept adn you are the next England.
Now Ukraine will end up giving everything until dnieper kek
>>522040262This whole situation is stupid. The Russians for being foolish enough to start a war in hugbox world. Leading to humiliation and the death of any multipolar dreams. Ukrainians for being psychonationalists on track to extinct themselves. Too proud to accept what has happened, slowly letting it get worse for them thinking anyone cares enough to use nukes. Slavs always screw everything up.
>>522057532Russia invading the U.S would without a doubt start ww3.So you have to surrender or countless lives will be lost I hear that's a great reason to let aggressors do whatever they want
>>522058139>Leading to humiliation and the death of any multipolar dreamsAre you fucking retarded? USA failing to defeat russia in this proxy war is the birth of the multipolar world. China could have been defeated with the loss of russia but together the USA has no chance of stopping the rise of china.
if you can't say the name pollard I don't want to hear putin or fuentes from you
>>522057079Lol. When Putin gets to your country, please please please fight until the very last man. Ukraine can do the same if they want, but nobody cares. I know Israel has gotten people confused about this but countries don't have a right to exist or any rights at all. Many countries have ceased to exist and life goes on for the people there.
>>522057637Trump is going to come out with "what plan? There was no plan."
>>522058462>When Putin gets to your countryWhen this is over, Putin isn't going to be able to keep HIS OWN country, Ivan.You may have given the Chechens a cushy position running your blocking units, but that also means that their fighting-age men haven't been as decimated as other Russian cohorts.Why do you think Aizerbaijan feels emboldened to give fucking JETS to Ukraine?Russia won't even be able to GET AT THEM soon because Chechnya is in the way.
>>522058462So you wouldn't surrender to an aggressor. I'm glad I could get you to see it from their perspective
>>522040308Based? Sending russians to war for nothing while letting muslims proliferate and hoarding billions with his oligarch buddies. Russians should guillotine this fucking traitor. But then again, we should guillotine plenty of corrupt pieces of shit ourselves.
>>522058372It was the EU's proxy war. They lost, Ukraine lost, Russia lost, they all made themselves weaker. USA and China won.
>>522058736this post is more cope and cringe than the bakmut mousetrap video.>>522058796>It was the EU's proxy warlol ok
I hate this evil fake world, and I mourned it already several times over. Otherwise I would be insulted by all of this...
>>522058879>cope and cringeThen why don't you people ever have anything real to say?Its ALWAYS just "cope" or "ur so dumb". (y'know, the kinds of things dumb russians say when they're coping)
>>522040620Russia loses 1 million white men but gain 250.000 old babushkas.Germany gains 1.25 million white women and children.I condemn this war in the strongest possible terms and hope it ends tomorrow. Unfortunately, all these women have said they want to stay. Total defeat for Germany. Russnigga wins!
>>522040262>be jew>like taking land that isn't theirs>manipulate politicians and entire countries into a war>manipulate politicians and entire countries into peace >take the land for free>there is no ???>enslave who you can for maximum profits
>>522040308This>>522058767>for nothingHe got crimea and eastern ukraine
>>522058680kek. "Relax guy!".
>>522058757I would surrender if I was losing, yes. Unlike you and your Ukrainian buddies, I have 46 chromosomes, so I don't base my entire identity on which set of oligarchs I pay taxes to.
>>522059100I'm just calling it as I see it. You're probably just some stupid tourist fuck who hasn't even been following the war and hasn't seen the mousetrap cope video but your post is exactly the same thing.
Sigh, Trump right now:The War between Russia and Ukraine is a violent and terrible one that, with strong and proper U.S. and Ukrainian LEADERSHIP, would have NEVER HAPPENED. It began long before I took office for a Second Term, during the Sleepy Joe Biden Administration, and has only gotten worse. If the 2020 Presidential Election was not RIGGED & STOLEN, the only thing the Radical Left Democrats are good at doing, there would be no Ukraine/Russia War, as there wasn’t, not even a mention, during my first Term in Office. Putin would never have attacked! It was only when he saw Sleepy Joe in action that he said, “Now is my chance!” The rest is history, and so it continues. I INHERITED A WAR THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED, A WAR THAT IS A LOSER FOR EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SO NEEDLESSLY DIED. UKRAINE “LEADERSHIP” HAS EXPRESSED ZERO GRATITUDE FOR OUR EFFORTS, AND EUROPE CONTINUES TO BUY OIL FROM RUSSIA. THE USA CONTINUES TO SELL MASSIVE $AMOUNTS OF WEAPONS TO NATO, FOR DISTRIBUTION TO UKRAINE (CROOKED JOE GAVE EVERYTHING, FREE, FREE, FREE, INCLUDING “BIG” MONEY!). GOD BLESS ALL THE LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST IN THE HUMAN CATASTROPHE! President DJThttps://trumpstruth.org/statuses/33961
>>522059361>I would surrender if I was losing, yes.Your ancestor made the same choice. That's why you were born in Russia with genetics that are admixed into oblivion."Russians" are just the genetic ash-heap of Moscow's MANY genocides, and all the cowardly ghouls who would just "give up" like you are damned to it forever.>>522059506>I'm just calling it as I see it., said the blind man.
>>522059512He's such a nigger.The right wing was on the rise in the US, so many good things could have happened, and now everyone equates right-wing ideals with this retard.What do your polls look like, TACO Donny?
>>522058372The fact that we are having a proxy war where they are directly one of the sides alone says enough. This isn't just them sending support to one side and us the other. It is us sending support to one side and them suffering on the other. This is part of why there has been so much Global South seethe recently. They are having an increasingly harder time pretending to be a viable alternative. If it matters, I also hate NATO. I'm America first above all else. The only other country I truly care about is Japan. I'm very lucky to have my favorite countries be the two most powerful.
Pretty sure Putin wants kiev. I don't think they'll stop until they get it. This is all theater.
>>522059753I want some of whatever drugs you're on if you think the ukraine war hasn't greatly improved russias global position and diminished america. Russia took everything you could throw at them in your cowardly proxy war and not only survived, they're thriving.
>>522040620I like how this made the nafo bots angry lol
>>522059579>"Russians" are just the genetic ash-heap of Moscow's MANY genocidesI don't have a drop of Slav blood but that is very true. It's the 21st century though and only Israel can get away with genocide in the age of smartphones. Ukrainians would have been fine if they surrendered day one. Now they'll be replaced with Indians if they "win" or Muslims when they lose. Russians win the prize of getting replaced slower. TL:DR fighting for your country is an outdated concept. Demographics matter more than which tax zone you're in.
>>522059753> i care for my USAFrom today's $38 trillion to $53 trillion in government debt in 5 years, conservatively estimated. KekYou should take a look at the forecasts for 2040.Whenever I hate the US, I look at the figures and it cheers me up.
>>522055264Your country is full of pro Russia Moldovans, paddy, and you’ll do fookin nuttin
>>522060164>It's the 21st century though and only Israel can get away with genocide in the age of smartphones.Which is why Russia isn't getting away with theirs.>Ukrainians would have been fine if they surrendered day one.No they would not have been, you lying piece of shit.They are fighting because they KNOW THE FUCKING HORROR of being occupied by Russia.Russia is the country that starved them, and then shot them for complaining about starving. It was called the Terror-Famine.
>>522058340>invading Ukraine is like invading USA >reality on the ground doesnt exist reeeeeeeee
>>522059969Russia thrives despite everything because it's people are hardy, cold adjusted, and generally intelligent for mechanical and scientific things, although quite docile when it comes to ideology and government propaganda. Large land area, very difficult to invade, lots of energy, lots of people. It's basically the US of Asia. Does anyone think the US would lose if someone started a proxy war with us in Mexico?
>>522060186Despite all this debt Americans live significantly richer than the rest of the world. We have welfare queens for a reason, they live in dumps because of laziness and excess spending. We also have the world hugest, most advanced, and strongest military. So it is all secured. If the bankers ever come to try to collect debt, they can be destroyed in war.
>>522060280They would have been and they will be, you stupid fucking mutt.
>>522040334What? You think it takes 3 days to destroy a CIA manufactured nation state?
>>522053938Pathetic as fuck response. Be better.
>>522040262>PUTON TALKY TO TRUMPWell...yeah?It was a proposal put forward by the two of them, so wouldn't it be normal to discuss first?Their line should be that Ukrainian leadership doesn't want to talk with Russia, so of course they get left out and informed after refusing a seat at the table.
>>522060457Ivan, you may not understand this because you grew up in a shithole and have only talked to humans through a VPN, but no child deserves to grow up Russian.They are a degenerate abomination before God and man, and there is no reason humans should tolerate such mindless brutality.
I don't understand how anyone can defend this shit anymore. The level of incompetence from this administration is so absolutely insane, these people shouldn't be in charge of shit. Rubio is an absolute fucking retard and he's considered one of the "sane" ones in this loony tunes admin. Everyone else from Trump to Vance to Miller to Nutlick to you name pretty much any of these fucking clowns, they aren't intelligent or competent enough to hold any public office. What a fucking joke this country is. Any other administration showing this kind of blatant lunacy would be the biggest scandal of all time but with this clown show admin it's just another day.None of these people have any shame. None of them have the capacity to feel embarrassed. They have a retarded cult of low IQ morons that sit on their couch and consoom fox news and conservative brainrot social media all day long, they are no longer people capable of any level of critical thinking but a bunch of mindless fucking NPC sheep. Fuck MIGGERS.
>>522060344>Does anyone think the US would lose if someone started a proxy war with us in Mexico?That's an extremely interesting question. IMO if somehow the war stayed conventional, and it was a proxy war with china the US would probably lose. US production capacity has proved lacking and china could supply mexico with basically infinite equipment. Plus you've got like a billion mexicans in the usa already. A significant portion of them would sabotage the USA from within so you'd probably be fucked.
>>522060416You spend more on debt interests than you spend on your army. The USA is absolutely finished with no way out of that
>>522060416No.Most of the US lives from paycheck to paycheck, large parts of the US are desperately poor.And the military is there to protect the 1% from the other 99%. Should I post the plans for what is planned in the event of an uprising?And you owe those debts to your richest 1% and to a few other wealthy investors around the world.Cope harder
>>522054527You need to be 18 to post here.
>>522040262>memeflagI don't believe you and won't bother looking further. Memeflags only lie. Use a real flag if you want to be believed, loser.
>>522060608Except Mexicans love the US. They risk everything to send their family to the US to learn English. It's a totally different situation. The US never would have tolerated a "ukraine" in our hemisphere. That's why we don't have one. They tried to use cuba and we basically said, don't try it or we'll use nukes. China? Best they can do is try to take over ports in latin America but it isn't working. US, China, and Russia all have inherent geographical advantages which virtually guarantee they'll never be invaded. That's why Europe is fucked.
>>522040262Alex is a roach jew.Weiss is a germ jew.That's all you need to know.
>>522060759Addendum: the scale is 10 years old, looks much worse today.
>>522040262it really do be like that
>>522060542Latvia living just fine Finland living just fine\Japan living just fineEstonia living just fineLithuania living just fineexcept for the two special kind of retards with extra chromosomes everyone else is doing just fine around russia
>>522042579Capitulation? Nah, we’re killing all of you.
>>522060932You're extremely naive about mexicans, cuba was retaliation for USA putting their nukes on the soviet border in europe first. Underestimating china is a fucking retard move. You underestimated them in the 90's and let them into the WTO and how did that work out for you? Now they've got you by the balls and they can switch off your military production whenever they want.
>>522060759You are german, or at least something else pretending to be german. You really don't know what goes on in this country and how it works. Minimum wage is very high here. The price gouging Americans complain about barely compares to prices considered standard elsewhere in the world. Our supermarkets have utopian stock of anything you'd ever want to eat and drink, for pretty decent prices year-round. Many poorer people here enjoy the latest computer technology and smartphones. While financially irresponsible, poor neighborhoods are even filled with fancy cars. You can find an acre of land for dirt cheap here. You can get a million dollars and invest it in stuff that will give you a livable wage indefinitely. Local governments and projects waste huge amounts of money fucking around and not building anything. Many take annual trips to theme parks where they pay thousands of dollars for a couple days of enjoyment. Americans can go to any other country and afford pretty much whatever they want because of wealth differences and currency conversion. Gold practically lines the streets of America. A country of upmost decadence in an order it can never lose.
>>522061328>You can get a million dollarsWhere? From your butt?
>>522061328There's the internet and I can read, I read more US news than you zoom.So you don't need to tell me fairy tales that I have to believe.For example, Germany is still much whiter than the US, you pussy, or Mexican, or n*gger.
>>522061190>In NATO>Just joined NATO>De facto safe due to Russia's navy being a joke>In NATO>In NATOThank you for proving my point.If there isn't a REASON Russia can't "get at you", then they're trying to.They're a fucking scourge.
>>522062305you welcome had they abandoned crimea and donbas they would have been in nato and eu just like the rest of us who did so>>522054371to bad that slavshit extra chromosome wouldn't allow that >i have to die for the king kike ruling over me
>>522040262why is this a happeningukraine should have handed donbass over years ago and saved a million Christians from deathbut jewish controlled england told them to say nobc then, jews wouldnt have gotten to kill a million whites, and there wouldnt have been a hundred billion $ grift
>>522062850Putin would have invaded Ukraine regardless. If they had given up Donbas they would have lost a lot more in this russian invasion.
>>522062850Your post is accurate but even if the war was stopped years ago russia would still need to take odessa at some point. The globohomo niggers are cooking something up in moldova to attack the ethnic russians in transnistria. Russia will be obliged to defend them and having a ukrainian contolled odessa in the way is just not tolerable.
>>522040262send my "was right again" trophy in the post.they're all working together. death to anyone who would rule over you.
So the winning nation of a war drafted its own deescalaion plan for its victim (the losers) (Ukraine)Where is the problem?
>>522062670>had they abandoned crimea and donbasHad they done so, they'd have been so crippled as a country that they never would have been able to mount a defense when Russia came for the rest.No matter what excuses you fucking butchers make, there was never any other possible outcome here besides TZD.RUSSIA has made it so that TZD is the only alternative to an imperial resurgence that we will not permit.Don't call it a grave, its the future you choose.
>>522040262LOL! Trump is surrounded by pedos and Russian moles. No wonder America is turning to shit. I wonder when will Americans wake up and kick out the Russian spies.
>>522063300it's not a problem but the headline is a lie. The 28 point peace plan is not a russian document. What the US have done is take the 2024 russian proposal and make it more favorable to ukraine, which is ridiculous since the russian negotiating position is so much stronger now than it was in 2024.
>>522063300>Where is the problem?The lack of ability to implement the plan due to Russia's battlefield performance not matching their propaganda.They would actually NEED Ukraine to be desperate and on the verge of collapse to take their shitty deal.That has only EVER been the case in Russian propaganda, so Ukraine will just ignore the "offer" and keep killing invaders.
>>522063466>which is ridiculous since the russian negotiating position is so much stronger now than it was in 2024.Right... the economy is so much more nimble without the burden of those refineries...
>>522063300We're supposed to pretend Ukraine has a shot
>>522040262You lost, gay bitch
>>522063466>The 28 point peace plan is not a russian documentIt quite literally is you mentally handicapped jeet.
>>522040262>MUH WUSSHIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You jews do realize nobody buys this, right?
>>522051814Bro a war of attrition is like Tuesday in Russia. Their entire national spirit is dying alone in the snow, they’re never gonna give up because of that
>>522040262They (((NATO))) lost the war so what do they expect? Russia to cede the territory they've gained to Ukraine? Maybe throw in regime change in Moscow?Are these people fucking retarded?
>>522063692You think rubio can ready Cyrillic?
>>522063652Everyone expected the war to be over in 3 days.What are we supposed to call it when Russia still can't make real progress after 4 years?You've been getting humiliated for the entire war, and you're so fucking shameless about it, its disgusting...
>>522048903based potatonigger
>>522040262>"what is the minimum it take to get you to stop this?">here>HOW DARE HE!
>>522063340Latvia isn't crippledLithuania isn't crippledEstonia isn't crippled Finland isn't crippledJapan isn't crippled retards with extra chromosome will be crippled thanks for proving my point>No matter what excuses you fucking butchers makei'\m a realist and not a sadist like you encouraging retard to fight the the guy with nukes with a bamboo stick that's all your military aid is in reality>a fuckign bamboo stickand you encourage the extra chromosome slavshit to hit the guy triple his size with it
>>522063620Even ukrainian sources admit their strikes have only affected russian oil refining by 3%. Russia had so much excess capacity that taking up the slack wasn't an issue.>>522063692It's obviously not and you're fucking retarded for falling for media spin. Would a russian proposal give the seized russian assets to ukraine? Would a russian document turn the territory they've already captured into a DMZ? You're high faggot.Why would the russians offer a deal that's worse than the 2024 deal when their position is so much stronger? idiot.
>>522063762>>522063931It was already determined to be machine translated from russian. Why do you russians even try? You are far too obviour regardless of the VPN you use.
>>522063878>"xyz isn't crippled">None of those countries were forced to hand over all of their most valuable land to Russia, which is what you're asking of UkraineYou are so dumb you can't even follow the conversation.>>522063931>3%Pfft. Your lies are always so goddamn ludicrous.And your war-dead are still in the 5-digits, right?What fucking scum you are...You deserve EVERYTHING that's coming to you, and your surviving children will curse everything you are.
>>522064037Who knows what the robots put in there then. You know they want war among man
>>522064037>It was already determined to be machine translated from russian.>hurr durr media told meAre you completely fucking retarded? They're winning. Why would the russians fuck themselves with a shit deal that's worse than the 2024 one?
>>522064300>They're winningWho is? Certainly not russia. They are crumbling and getting weaker by the day. Just by keeping up the status quo they have 1-2 years left until total economic collapse.
>>522064058yeah that's right we are not slavshits with extra chromosome we value human lives more than land you are so retarded and it ain't even painful for me at all>retard pats retard.jpgthat's exactly what you and your military aid to ukraine is
>>522064462>They are crumbling and getting weaker by the dayIf they're getting weaker by the day how are they setting new records for amount of territory gained pretty much every day for the last few weeks?
>>522064626Are they now? And have you checked their economical figures lately such as inflation, interest rates, defaulted debt payments?
>>522052090>falling for good cop bad cop theatrics meant to make putin look reasonable to the populaceretardo
>>522064462BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOh, you're serious?
>>522064462>t. Delusional NAFO tranny Absolutely cringe as fuck
>>522057429It was Clinton's zombie apparatus all alongthe Nuland & Blinken-types, Eastern Euro Kikes, with a perpetual war-boner to unironically create Greater Khazaria
>>522064936Why do you even post things you know nothing about? Putin is an extremely reasonable person. He got fucked with minsk 1. Then he got fucked again with minsk 2. Then he got fucked again with istanbul. Then he got fucked again in alaska. The west has backstabbed putin with every single peace deal they've made but he's still willing to talk. Biden didn't have the balls to talk to him at all.
>>522040620They werent losing soil in 1989 either but we know how that ended u retarded mutt.Real life is not like a rts game. Thats why tramp the cocksucker is so desperate to "make" peace and reinsert razzia back into the circle of developed economies. The orange bitch might just ship pallets of $ to his midget master to save the gas station shithole from collapse
>>522064626What records u dimwit. Do they hold more clay than at the start of the invasion?
>>522063774They went in to defend Russian Russian-speaking Donbass and they've taken the Donbass.
>>522065214>west bad>russia goodboi russia dindu nuffinBut I thought Putin was stronk and that is why you russians follow him unconditionally?
>>522040262Anymore pictures of Rubio being a fruitcake to release to the press? I think everyone forgot how gay he is.
>>522040262God Bless Niggers&Jews!"Only 99 looting days left til Christmas."
USA needs to face the reality of the situation. They are not powerful anymore. It's time for USA to stick to North America. Ukraine is Russia and Taiwan is China. America is lucky that Russia has been kind enough not to escalate this to the nuclear level which would be warranted with how many trillions of dollars and weapons USA has sent to Ukraine and Taiwan. Americans need to focus on their own country and crumbling health care.
>>522066065IMO this is an aspect of the war that the MSM doesn't like to cover. After the CIA coup in 2014 crimea and the donbass went "fuck that" and voted to leave ukraine and rejoin with russia. The crimea annexation went fairly well but ukraine strongly resisted the annexation of donbass. IMO, Ideally the donbass would have separated from ukraine with minimal bloodshed like in crimea but the collective west weren't going to have that.
>>522040830All memeflags are kikes
>>522051994OK.Putin pull your forces out!...Didn't work. Next proposal?
>>522040262>Russians hander over the Russian demands, written in Russian to TrumpHOLD THE FUCKING PRESSES!!!! GIGA MEGA HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>522040262It’s called terms. If the US signs off on it, they were obviously in agreement.
>>522057681K is Kirill Dmitriev, you dumb spic.
>>522066841>CIA coupYou're not even trying ivan. Low effort.
>>522066990Well that's the issue isn't it? This isn't terms. Bad actors leaked a draft of the american plan to the (((media))) and claimed these are actually russian terms. Which is fucking retarded. The actual russian terms are far worse for ukraine than the ones in this leak.
>>522058767>>522059273And in all likelihood all of slavic lands once the eu collapses, plus hungary
>>522067254Those are russian terms leaked by russia. Can you stop already? Your shift should be over now.
>>522066703USA has spent 3 trillion each on iraq and afghanistan with absolutely nothing to show for it1 trillion on syria to scrounge together a pyrrhic victory at best, benefiting primarily the reformed isis members displaced after iraqwe have spent like half a trillion so far on Ukraine for an unwinnable fight from the outset, most of which was money laundered to israel, who is now emboldened to wage their own unwinnable war
>>522040262Not my problem.Ukraine accepts it or else it's Poland's next.
>>522060759please post the plans of what is going to happen in the case of an uprising.
>>522067383Correct. USA needs to close all their foreign military bases, cut military spending by 90% and start addressing their debt and health care. USA is a failed state pretending it's a superpower. USA military is ineffective and bloated. Americas should be demanding their corrupt military is dismantled
>>522067374If they're russian terms why have the russians completely rejected them you fucking retard?
>>522040308this, he makes troons seethe, so hes good in my books
>>522067632But they haven't you fucking liar? Also it was proven these were directly machine translated from russian. Do you get overtime pay for posting late?
>>522064508>we value human lives more than landBut you lack human thinking.Humans understand that if you incentivize brutality, you get more bruatlity.TZD is the only answer, by Russia's insistence.Subhumans will seethe. (and then die)
>>522064058imagine being both ESL and a tranny
>>522067743Ivan, everybody knows that Russia uses all its many MANY troons for shilling.Reminder that the other Russians do NOT view you as "one of the good ones" just because you take it up the ass and do what you're told.
>>522067709You're projecting too much. Show me a single shred of evidence that russia hasn't completely rejected these terms. Good luck with that. Even if you're doing this for free you're being overpaid because you're so incompetent you do more damage than good.
>>522067843ACK
>>522065214You are one cringe zigger. Did your love for mazer Russia get assfucked into you in your GRU boot camp? And if you're not a zigger, you're even more fucking pathetic. Repeating every single Kremlin talking point like a dutiful little doggy but for free.
>>522068191So do you have an actual rebuttal or are you just gonna call names like a 6 year old?
>>522067854>https://www.ksut.org/2025-11-21/putin-says-u-s-plan-for-ukraine-could-form-the-basis-for-a-final-peace-settlementIs this fake news, faggot?
>>522067383To be honest, "only" dropping half a trillion on an unwinnable war seems to be smartest geopolitical decision the US made in the 21st century, in comparison.>>522068413Nafotroons have nothing to offer but seething and emotions. They honestly, genuinely believe that the world works like their discord circlejerks and no objective facts exist.
>>522067935>No, but I AM one of the good ones because I have anti-troon images saved!!!Whatever helps you sleep at night, transnik.
>>522068440are you actually fucking brain damaged? Your own post says the text of the plan has not been discussed with russia.
>>522068505>"only" dropping half a trillion on an unwinnable warThe US has given around 30 billion, not 500. Vatniks make up numbers.As for the war, if it was winnable for Russia, they'd have won by now.Simple as.>>522068588>>522068440Protip: Where the 28-points came from doesn't matter.With US officials even TRYING to deny involvement, its obviously not something that's ever going to happen.
>>522068505the only reason we haven't spent more is because we are in a runaway debt spirial compounded by a demographic crisis. we already shot the wad on the 2 major failed wars, and then have been on zombie mode for the greater part of 2 decades, taking advantage of negligible interest rates to print money to bail out every last kike that asks for one, and now all the booooomers that profited on it are all retiring en masse.>>522067593>USA needs to close all their foreign military bases, cut military spending by 90% and start addressing their debt and health care.>Americas should be demanding their corrupt military is dismantledas much as it would be beneficial, we literally cannot afford to do that eitherthat is the price of being the world's reserve currency, the only thing holding our currency's value is basically the force we exert everywhere at all times>tldr: USA cannot retire from World Police, it is destined to die on the job
>>522068712https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/>The federal government spent $20.1 trillion from fiscal years 2022 to 2024, so the $182.8 billion in Ukraine allocations would amount to less than 1% of the budget. that's just the years were this was hot, not including this year, which would extrapolate to about 250 Billion. and then there is the fact that USA has been funding this conflict from it's true outset in 2014.
>>522068712>vatnikDoes anyone, ever typed out those sequence of letters who wasn't a raging nafotranny? >>522069179The calculation that really always fucks me over, is how every single american born after 1990 could have been given a free suburban house, a car, a degree, free education and healthcare for his life and still have some spare change for gas left over, from the money spent on the desert adventures. Any time a boomer starts kvetching about how the M-I creates MUH JERBS, just remind him to this, and how much demand those financially stable, educated, healthy, employed families would have generated. Even just their buying of homes would have prevented the subprime mortgage bubble alone
>>522040262Everyone in this thread is retard nigger faggot. Russia will win and Ukraine is losing. That ALWAYS was the case, except dumb niggeroblats come on here and shill their nigger shit—GET FUCKED. I don’t know why /pol/ack fags got so inspired by the ukrainian cause, but those among you who aren’t bots should be gassed.
>>522069483They funded it way before 2014. Overthrowing a government isn't free.
>>522040492>>522040517>memeflag>seething about the ukraine
>>522069523yeah, we are the ultimate goyim populationin my lifetime, our debt has gone like this>1991: 3 Trillion>2001: 6 Trillion>2009: 12 Trillion>2017: 20 Trillion>2025: 40 Trillionanybody who is the slightest bit numerate knows that we are 6 ways from sunday terminally fucked
