Putin in 2001, during a press conference with Bush, reads declassified documents proving that Soviet Union wanted to join NATO. He also said that he wanted Russia to be a member of NATO by the USA refused. It was a moment when he understood that NATO is a hostile military organisation deliberately surrounding Russia.https://files.catbox.moe/s8ancm.mp4
>documents>provingNot how proof works. Go back to stufying english, retard
>>522048520stop defending pedos you sick lazy fuck
>>522048275Bush and his nervous laughter.
>He also said that he wanted Russia to be a member of NATO by the USA refused.well, that's how it works, other countries get to vote if they want the schizo third world shithole as a member
Russians aren't bros and don't align with European values
>>522048275>peaceful foreign policy>Soviet UnionThe Soviets themselves couldn't have believed this nonsense. This proposal was in no way serious.
>>522048275The Putin in the video looks.... Different
Russians rewriting history again.
>>522048757Like Turkey you mean
>>522048275And Bush looks like a fucking clown here.
>>522048275well duh, NATO still exists to keep military kikes in USA churning billions
>>522048275America is the true evil empire.Simple as.
>>522048757>get to votetake a load of this goy
>>522048952it's called aging
>>522048945Speaking of 1954, in the same year the US administration had to shoot down proposals by its own general staff to initiate unprovoked nuclear bombing of the Soviet Union, starting from the south and crawling toward Moscow.To give context to that proposal, the same general staff also wanted to win the Korean War using nuclear weapons.The only thing that stopped those US general staff proposals (those about unprovoked attacks against hundreds of millions of civvies) was the USSR conducting H-bomb tests. STILL, the US deployed nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles Turkey, within striking range of all major Soviet population centers, and acted like they dindu nuffin, commies bad, when the Soviets deployed their own to Cuba a year later. The US Deep State calls you an aggressor as it holds a knife to your throat.It was so satisfying to see the US humiliate itself deploying stealth fighters to shoot down a weather baloon – specifically for the reason they tried to pass of a U2 mission as a weather research mission until the Soviets demontrated they salvaged the wreck and have the pilot and the spy gear. The US assumes weather baloons are spy devices because they label their own spy planes as weather planes.Beautiful ironyBut in all seriousness, civilization westward of Berlin was a gay niggerloving mistake, and the civilized position of NOT nuking everything over there ultimately doomed the white race.We could still recover from Hitler, but not neoliberalism/neoconservatism
>>522048275that was plan since 80it doesn't changed, what changed is that russia will not join as single block but as balkanized republics, first phase was disbanding of warsaw pact and losing all republics and putin&co still cooperate with usa in that
>>522048275At 0:45 putin makes a great face. I love that expression like "you see this shit mate?"
>>522048952This was like 20 years ago dude
>>522048275Fuck would be the point of NATO then? He only wanted to join to block the rest of NATO, first in Jugoslavia, then whenever he attacked anyone.
>>522050497The staff was right
>>522048275To be honest i see that as attempt to weaken NATO since Soviet Union wanted to get rid of NATO actually.Russia and NATO always was emenies tho.
>>522050497>slavs>whitedo subhuman asiatics really?
>>522050283Where have you been? I haven't seen a Ukrainian flag for ages.
>>522050696I laugh at your life amerimutt
>>522050696White Identity is a Myth that has conjured Black Identity into existence. You're ATTATCHED to so called Blacks and the only way you'll be able to amputate them is if you discard White Identity.
>>522048275The USSR did not make a good faith effort to join NATO, and what would NATO offer the USSR?The purpose of NATO was to oppose the Warsaw pact which was openly hostile to Western European countries. Of course we would have denied them. They only tried to be funny.
>>522050497Got a source for that story?
>>522048275They move close and closer to your borders, because you are weak.Only total scum.degenerates destroy and sell out their own empire USSR for which their ancestors, their fathers and.mothers died by the millions in ww2 to preserve it.So when the prey is weak the predator gets it easy and moves closer and closer.Now even Finland is in NATO.https://dl.depot.4d2.org/JUxyDwvXOLAu.mp4https://dl.depot.4d2.org/sRmBtcbCmu0U.mp4
>>522050861>which was openly hostile to Western European countries>be mutt>starts wars and regime changes around the planet
>>522048945/thread
>>522050561>>522050651Having the Russians participate in NATO would effectively mean the US would get to have bases within Russia and Russian troops would sit at air bases in Britain.The idea is that war between America and Russia would be prevented by a similar mechanism as the Coal&Steel Agreement made further Franco-German wars logistically impossible, so now they can only fight each other by funding anti-nuclear and pro-nigger NGOs respectively.Imagine a world where instead of spamming thousands of F-16s and T-72s, the two top economies of the 80s would invest billions upon billions on Black Kween Supremacy propaganda in America and Dommy Mommy Strapon fetishism in Russia. Think of the thicc Mama President and the Big Blonde Russian Valkyries in the Central Commitee we couls have had bossing us around if those warmongering fucks had only spat out the goyim-hating jew cum for 5 minutes to sign an Effective Peace Deal
>>522048275NATO has no mechanism for dealing with inter-alliance conflicts, so if you want to attack NATO countries it's better to be in the alliance than out.
>>522048275>create a club to defend for retards>retards want to joinkek
>>522050284Orban and Erdogan got a lot of gibs from Sweden to get their vote. That wouldn't happen if their vote wasn't necessary.Russia wanted to be invited in (with no approval vote) and didn't want to adopt STANAGs. Everybody laughed.
>>522050651You are a CIA shill with a VPN, not a real russian.
>>522048275>NATO is a hostile military organisation deliberately surrounding Russia.no shit. NATO stands for NO ASSHOLE TANKIES OKAY
>>522050967US unprovoked nuking plans:>War plan TOTALITY, penned by Eisenhower before he became PresidentNear-Chimpout by the US in Korea:>MacArthur and his staffUS nukes in Turkey:>Literally the first paragraph in the English Wiki on the Cuban Missile CrisisU2 chimpout:>Wiki on the 1960 Powers shootdown, chapter "American cover-up"The weather baloon:>US news cycle and /pol/ during Biden's admin. You had to be here to see itIt's not one central narrative, since they both have to tell you the truth and don't want you to notice, but once you notice and put the snippets next to each other in succession, I can only conclude that an American with a human soul should desire revolution, waiver of citizenship, or suicide of shame
>>522051403>NO ASSHOLE TANKIES OKAYGood one
>>522048275Bush giggles like a schoolgirl a lot; but in this particular incident, this was the perfect response.If that document shows anything, it shows that USSR was a master internet troll decades before the internet!
>>522048757didnt finland join nato in 2023? that disproves your own point.
>>522048757Nah, GAYto is all about preaching how ebul rashia will conquer the world and keep selling weapons and printing moneys, that's it
>>522052412russia isn't a threat to the world, it is a threat to it's neighbors and they will join NATO, nothing you can do about it
>>522052727You piss out of your mouth like those shitholes besides Ukraine and Poland matter kek
>>522049867>Like Turkey you meanYeah NATO needs to be careful who to take in.
>>522051094So did the USSR. Let's not pretend otherwise.
>>522052784You will pay reparations to Ukraine, nothing you can do about it, LMAO
>>522052905which ones
>>522052162who was leading finland back then and why was it a WEF figure?
>>522048275cringe
Serb seething is the most predictable and pathetic. They act like we destroyed their great empire or something. Bro. You are Serbian. There was nothing to destroy.
>>5220532761st world countries think to this day that 3rd world countries decolonizing themselves was caused by 2nd world countries.In a way, the dissolution of Yugoslavia was revenge for Tito's Unaligned movement
>>522048275Really was a good move by Ukraine to try and join NATO when Russia has been speaking about this for 20-30 years
>>522048275I used to argue we should have let them in. After lil green men who were totally not Russian marched into Crimea, I changed my mind. Russians are not to be trusted. I say this as an American because they look and act like us. We are also not to be trusted. And while we freely admit as much they refuse to do so.
>>522048952Putin has body doubles. Why wouldn't he.
>>522051386> The turkish and hungarian tyrantsNope, the disgusting turkish didn't managed to prevent neither Finland nor Sweden'smembership, as they actually didn't hold any veto, but could suffer a suspension of their right and, worse, sanction and exclusion from NATO and EU if they even think of attempting to block these two's membership.Furthermore, the hungarian didn't try, but would also faced failure and sanction threat if they do.So the turkish regime'sattempt to block these two membership failed, and Russia certainly didn't request this, failed and ridiculous, turkish shenanigan.
>>522050967Why are you by default taking a doubtful stance against accurate historical events?This country is so retarded. None of you know anything even about recent history.
>>522052966winners dont pay reparations to losers tho
>>522055954Many such cases. Most people here don't know shit about the USSR, much less the Imperial times.First there was light, then the WW2 happened and now here we are.
>>522048275The sole purpose of NATO is to defend against Russian aggression.If the Russians really wanted to join it would be to break it down from the inside.
>>522048952You are looking at the original model
>>522048275Why would NATO let russia join?Russia invades its neighbors Nato doesnt
>>522048275He wuz a good boy goin' to church tryin' ta join NATO. Ukraine pulled up with they gun out. He has his hands up he said "don't join!"
>>522048275Not really surprising because government mandates are all set for like the next 50 years. Most of the world is still running its WW2 programming. The USSR collapsed and had to reform, but the rest of the world is still running the same programs.I really hope the zoomer generation will finally ban male infant genital mutilation.Once boomers die we can finally have a peaceful world.
>>522048275Russia rightfully fears the power of NATO. Not because NATO ever had plans to attack Russia, but because NATO exists as a power entity in the world outside of an imperial structure.To join NATO you first have to be a democracy with universal suffrage. NATO is an organization that free nations willingly join. This means that NATO never has to waste resources on maintaining control over “NATO territory.”The state of Russia has ALWAYS been based on the conquest of new peoples who do not want to be part of Russia. The Russians under their original Empire and their Soviet Union reincarnation were always tied up with internal conflicts and security concerns. The Russians have always had to spend vast resources (secret police) on keeping their conquered peoples and territories in line.The Kremlin has always ruled with fear. Therefore, Russia can never operate at full strength against an external enemy, because their empire would then crumble from within as different conquered peoples would rebel with the hope of escape.
>>522048698thats not nervous laughter that high-school tier bullying behavior from 2001
>>522058108Because NATO is a voluntary organization, every new nation that joins only adds strength to the alliance rather than subtracts from it. NATO does not have to worry about its member states going to war with each other. If NATO had to go to war against Russia, NATO would not have to waste resources putting down internal rebellions of nations who would use a conflict as an opportunity to escape NATO.This is what Russia fears about NATO. Autocrats always think democracies are weak because they are disorganized, chaotic, and everyone is always after their own self-interests. But democracies in the last 100+ years have a long and bloody history as some of the most warlike forms of government. And democracies have won most wars of the last century.Whereas autocracies like modern Russia are frequently extremely weak, utterly lacking in resilience, and extraordinarily brittle. Conscripts from impoverished regions of an empire make terrible soldiers. They will be the first to rebel against their masters the second they sense weakness from the emperor.
>>522058108>>522058160yeah but nato are trannies. wait hold on, let me find that twitter post where some tranny supported nato to prove my point. you're gonna see russia is based as fuck. hold on.
>>522058160>he thinks the demons in the top are more trustworthy than the soldiers at the bottom
>>522058160>NATO>voluntaryThe vooting will continue until the goyim vote for the right candidate>cough cough Romania>cough cough Netherlands>wheeze Denmark
>>522050310Getting old sucks so fucking much fuck this shit
>>522056332You russians know the least since you have been brainwashed since childhood with soviet rewritten history. Every single nigger chimpout you have started you justify with "we dindu nuffin we are only defending ourselves".
>>522049867Tbf Turkey has the only military "in Europe" that wasn't totally decimated by WW2 having them join was a plus to deter Soviet influence. To this day they are the 2nd largest army in NATO iirc
>>522048275>KGB agent lies
>>522058865>your childhood brainwashing>our objective historyYeah, swamp nigger, go and tell me about what you're taught
>>522048275Russia can't join for the same reason Ukraine can't join yet.Admission requires a small but difficult and verifiable set of anti-corruption and pro-democracy metrics.These metrics must be achieved and have been achieved for a period of time before membership is allowed. These metrics must be confirmed independently.Ukraine can't meet the targets yet, so they can't join. Russia can't meet them and likely never will.
>>522048757until a country like turkey votes no, then countries like sweden threw out the entire opposition to erodgan that had sought political assylum back to turkey in order to please themalso mostly hushed up in scandinavian mediaso much for those values
>>522048275Whoa, based??
>>522058160>>522058108cheap propagada >>522059316
It speaks volumes that even Russia wants to join NATO, to defend from a brutal russian invasion
>>522058929>Big army good for NATO>Therefore no Russia in NATODumb dumb
>>522059734>2 new postsor he shouldnt have been nice to nato at all, and made a new warsaw pact, so the moment the west started meddling in ukraine they would have reacted emediatly, and not have the western war in ukraine today
>>522048757The whole point of NATO is to make easier to control countries within it. It would make easier the NATO expansion as well. Russia wouldn't object for Ukraine or Georgia to join.Instead, the west antagonized us. West manufactured this conflict from the start.
>>522059970Hey retard,Quick history lesson. In 1952, when Turkey joined, there was no Russian federation but the USSR.
>>522060494If you weren't such a shitty neighbor those countries wouldn't want to join NATOAlso can we stop this realpolitik bullshit. Countries aren't little pawn pieces in a chess game, the idea that they shouldn't be in NATO because they are in your supposed sphere of influence is fucking stupid
>>522060494same with EU Regime, remove all nationa identity through mass migration, then force an european federation in the future
>>522051172I've heard there is a plan to conquer Russia and divide it up and you can guess who is behind it. Anyway I don't think it's going to happen before the boomers die off and the younger generations don't have any animosity towards Russia, at least in the US. NATO should be disbanded.
>>522060634Russia wanted to change to align towards Europe in the 90s. The west, instead of building up on this impulse, rejected us. The sphere of influence had born out of western antagonism.
>>522060634retard shill argumentretards had to get involved in literally every latin america and asian country in order to "stop communism expansion" then now pretends their own expansio is not a threat lmao'shit bad faith propaganda nothing else
>>522060494Yes, the evil HATO banderites sent the little green men into Donbabwe eleven years ago and measured the eggs, now everything is known and the perfidious anglos will rue the day they started this special military operationCan you fuckheads update your script? It's getting pretty tiresome
>>522060539>In 1952 big armies were good for NATO>But after 1990 NATO decided that small armies are good and big ones badKick Turkey out I'm sure Finland and Slovenia can defend Europe kek moron
>>522060634>Countries aren't little pawn pieces in a chess gameThey areShow flag kike
Boomers and the synagogue of satan worshipper pedo elites needs a "big bad" to keep the pleb masses in line. Bread and circus alone won't cut it.
>>522060887If Ukraine sent volunteers to Chechnya, why shouldn't we send volunteers to Donbass? Don't step on our toes, nigger.
>>522060775It wasn't just the U.S. who didn't want Russia in. It was pretty much everyone. Plus Russia doesn't need to be in NATO considering they are able to fend for themselves. But of course just because you are in the gay club doesn't mean you can't be gay. Japan and Australia aren't in NATO but militarly we are intertwined.>Spheres of influence born of western antagonismWrong. Russia thinks they are historically Russian pawns because of the Soviet Union and tsarist empire. But again, that era is done countries aren't pawn pieces.
>>522060867Name one (1) NATO country that was attacked and forced to join>Muh anti gommunism Yea bro no anti communists in those nations. God knows 80 revolutionaries speak for the entirety of Bolivia
>>522050696nice one saaaar
>>522060887another bad faith shillGTP bothttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa
>>522061027Ahhh, yes, your true intentions lie behind only a thin veneer of civility.As always, the jew cries out in pain and he strikes you.
>>522048275He also claimed to never ban freedom, internet etc But now he banned everything
>>522061300Not the evil heckin' westerners ENGINEERING DEMOCRACY!!!!! This sin must be paid for in blood, how dare they influence elections, THAT'S OUR JOB!!!
>>522061401Meanwhile, the west whine about "Russian interference", even if it imaginary.
>>522050283Oink oink, piggie, get back to the front lines.
>>522061138>Name one (1) NATO country that was attacked and forced to jointhe NATOGTP bot has to add very specific conditions , otherwise there are too many examples lol.notice how they dont use the word "annexed" anymore after everyone remembered NATO invaded a part of NATO and annexed a part of NATO in 1974
>>522061401then 2 minutes later he cries about the fake 2016 russian meddling in the US elections
>>522061562>Very specific examples>Ask a general question asking him to name 1>Still doesn't Bruh what are you talking about about
>>522048909>Russians aren't bros and don't align with European valueseurope is hijacked by jews and its values are infinity niggers, submission to hajis and trannyfication of kids
>>522061522>>522061594You people have underdeveloped frontal cortexes kekI was saying that Russians interfere in elections, and that you are justifying starting a war because of election interference, making a humorous comment about how it's "our thing".You lost, by your own estimates, a hundred and forty thousand men because your election interference in Ukraine didn't work, and then you started a war of aggression because . . . NATO interferred in Ukraine's elections.Poor losers, low IQ, suicidal hubris, cry-bully, etc, etc
the free west is so afraid of actual democracy they have to use millions of bots everywhere to distrupt online discussions, otherwise they would lose the propaganda war tomorrowsince literally no western leader has any popularity among their own people, because they work for the jews and special interests
>>522061804 lots of text = lose
>>522060494>The whole point of NATO is to make easier to control countries within it. It would make easier the NATO expansion as well. Russia wouldn't object for Ukraine or Georgia to join.>Instead, the west antagonized us. West manufactured this conflict from the start.No it's not. NATO is a defense pact to protect against russian aggression which as Ukraine proves never stops. The only reason Putin would want vatnikshithole to be in NATO is to have a vote about who can defend against their aggression. You can't let the fox in the henhouse but up till you retards attacked the ukies everyone treated you as an equal part the world. Hope you get sent to the frontlines.
>>522061657>spent 40 years fighting "communist expansion" ITS THE BIGGEST THREAT EVERsuddenly does a 180 and says expansion is gooodyeah we know youre full of shit, anything else?
>>522061979another NATO funded botgo sudo reboot yourself lol.
>>522061898Lack of text = low IQ
>>522048275Russia never formally attempted to join NATO. Putin hinted at it several times, and was told, Russia may apply to join NATO but they would have to follow the exact same process as every other country.After this, Putin never tried to get Russia into NATO.
>>522061990>IDEAOLOGY DOESNT MATTERCommunist expansion is bad lmfaoFor example if you lived in the Soviet Union posting here would be illegal. In fact it's illegal in China. You, hypocrite, are able to post here because it's hosted in the United States and free speech is protected by the first amendment
>>522062097That's not how real diplomacy works. First you secure the consensus, then do the formalities. Doing it the other way around just opens you up to humiliation and ridicule.
The entire point of NATO is to defend its member against a russia agression
>>522062239>If you join NATO you have to have actual elections>."....NATO wouldn't let poor Russia join the club"
>>522062239And you secure the concensus by sending in the military and forcing people at gun point to vote 98% in favour of whatever it is you want kek
>>522062239Putin wanted special exceptions to be made for Russia, and was told no. He was told if Russia wants to join NATO, they must follow the process as it is set out which every NATO member had to follow.That is all there is to it. After being told this, Putin made no attempt to join NATO.
>>522048275should have blackmailed the clinton administration like poland did
Dick Chiney in 1994 = taking all of iraq would have caused chaos in the middle east for decadesfew years later they do it anyway and we got chaos and terrorism for decadesBiden in 1997 = spreading NATO will cause a hostile Russian reactionfew years later = they do it anyway and we got hostile Russian reactionso ofc they gotta hire milions of bots >>522061864 because their shit narrative does not survive for long when they dont, just look at old reddit posts from 15 years ago
>>522062385Clinton flat out told him no, it's impossible. The bullshit about "process" is sending out on a goose chase, leading to public humiliation.
>>522048520fits with the facts
>>522062448in other words: same retards who lied about iraq are now lying about russiano reason to trust them now, lying just like they did 20 years ago
>>522048275>He also said that he wanted Russia to be a member of NATO by the USA refused.Yes they never applied. So it is bullshit.
>>522059411Not an argument. Feel free to refute my points using facts and logic, but you can't, can you?
>>522058160>>522058108holy shit son, take some air or you're going to chokeand they call us cum guzzlers lmao
>>522062580neither did sweden, at least their own people had no say, couldnt risk emberasing themselves even more and the people voting no. >>522059316they already sold themselves out for dictators for memebership, couldnt risk their own people voting wrong in thed democracy
>>522062649>voluntary organization,show me the facts where the finnish people voted to join nato
>>522062489Again, this is inaccurate. Putins words were "when will NATO send Russia an invite to join?" and he was told "NATO do not send invites". He was told Russia would have to apply to join NATO and follow the process.Putin was never once told Russia could not join NATO.
>>522062649>voluntary organization where you have no say in if you join or not, your politicians take that choice for youah yes reminds me of recent recent elections in the west, if you somehow oppose them, they simply ban the party lolban political partiies, ban people online, building up for even more mass censorship and full ID online, yes the free west is showing is true "voluntary " nature lately
>>522048698It’s more of yea I know that you know that America has hostile intentions but we’re still going to keep moving forward.
>>522060634>the idea that they shouldn't be in NATO because they are in your supposed sphere of influence is fucking stupidwhat about the idea that countries shouldn't do business with china because they are in america's supposed sphere of influence?like when trump threatened sanctions/military action over supposed china presence in the canal>it's only wrong when others do itwestern niggers are hypocritical as usual
>>522063077Didn't Russia invent an app that steals all your data and require it's installation by law in literally everyone's cellphones?You know, that app that got hacked not even six months after it was implemented, kek?
>>522062656Still not an argument, try again>>522062767Finnish people voted their people's representatives into power. The hint is in the name, the formation of the coalition government represents the will of the people. That is how a republic works. What you're presenting is a false dichotomy. You mean to say that a democracy that does not hold a general vote on every thing the government does is not a true democracy. Incorrect. That is what is called a direct democracy, which finland is not and has never claimed to be.Also, it is a ridiculous claim to suggest that most Finns did not support joining NATO. There was zero anti-NATO protests when we decided to join NATO. Because unlike in countries such as russia, we have freedom of speech and freedom of protest. The people make themselves well heard if there is something they aren't happy with that the government is doing.
>>522063705yepp, lying like their lying politicians >>522062448this shit here says it all imothey know their politicians are one of the most unliked in the world, and their bad faith shitposts dont last in a none-controlled enviroment, so no wonder they had to nuke sites like reddit with their bots to turn the whole site into a bullhorn for the defense department
>>522050497>insatiable bloodlust
>>522063993>Didn't Russia invent an app that steals all your data and require it's installation by lawoh they did? did they learn it from you? i guess youre the good guy here in this situation as always!>>522063999>Finnish people voted their people's representatives into power. Prime Minister Orpo's ratings and the general government's performance are viewed more critically by the public: 35% satisfaction with his personal performance on foreign policy, while 57% were dissatisfied, in the same October 2025 poll.Only 33% of Finns gave the government a good grade for its handling of foreign policy, while 60% rated it poorly.A January 2025 poll found that 53% of respondents assessed his overall performance as poor or very poor, versus only 25% who viewed it as very or fairly well. LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>522064577Here's some light reading material about the Russian government's MAX apphttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/world/europe/russia-max-app.htmlAnd of coursehttps://caliber.az/en/post/hackers-claim-full-breach-of-russian-messenger-max
>>522063999>There was zero anti-NATO protests when we decided to join NATOofcourse the NATOGPT bot cant be honest about anything. finns and swedes did protest, look like your lying nato rat ass was wrong as usual
>>522063999there IS no argument retard, you write paragraphs and paragraphs singing praise to the jewish bankers' private army and railing about russiathe only sensible thing left to do is to laugh at you
>>522048275>doesnt get in NATO>proceeds to genocide neighboring countries in a tantrumSounds like the right decision was made?
>>522064738That's literally five fucking people lmao
>>522064816Jewish bankers don't genocide European neighbor countries, thoughbeitNo one actually cares about Palicucks kek
>>522064577Okay, you've opened to door to using polls to make a point, so Don't even try to make>muh polls>muh media propaganda Arguments next. Let's see what the polls say about finland joining NATO, shall we?https://yle.fi/a/74-20066206>over 80 percent of Finns support the nation's membership of Nato.https://thedefensepost.com/2022/05/09/finland-nato-poll/amp/>76 percent of Finns support joining NATOhttps://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html>Finnish Support For NATO Membership Rises To 78 Percent
the nato regime was so afraid the finns would vote no, they refused their own people a say in the matter LMAOthe free democratic west (TM) strikes again
>>522064903They got involved in Lybia which caused the whole migration crisis.
>>522048275
>>522048275w
>>522064738Oh wow what a crazy crowd you got there in that picture, you sure showed me!
>>522048275just like they knew in 1994 taking whole of iraq would lead to chaos for years, but then decided to invade iraq after allsame shit with nato
>>522064816I accept your concession
>>522063999good meme, got aby more?>>522065040this lol, nobody has flodded europe more with niggers than NATO leaders
>>522065040And good boy Putin would NEVER send tens of thousands of Russian mercenaries to stir shit up in a peaceful country such as Libya, only evil Western NATO does!!!Oh waithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group_activities_in_Libya
>>522064738Having a referendum on military matters isn´t a great idea when the average pleb has no idea what happens in the armed forces.Should people continue using the chemical dihydrogen monoxide to continue poisoning our lettuce and cabbage?. The voter says no!.
>>522048275our arrogant leaders dont listen to us, why would they listen to anyone else even if it causes war?our leaders are not our ally.
>>522061804damn you got owned
>>522065125You said zero and he proved you were wrongLearn to rhetoric
>>522065294>Having a referendum on military matters isn´t a great idea when the average pleb has no idea what happens in the armed forces.Should people continue using the chemical dihydrogen monoxide to continue poisoning our lettuce and cabbage?. The voter says no!.sounds like the mindset of the same guys who ddi the fake "russian drones" narrative over denmark lately
>>522065449abstract thinking is a foreign concept to negroes and FAS retards
>>522065251It seems it is after Gadaffi killed, no?Western retards turned stable country into fucking mess. Before, people lived their normal lives. Now they TRADE SLAVES IN THE OPEN. No one in the west (and especially France) took responsibility.
>>522065239Sure, how many would you like?>>522065305You already replied to OP, why are you doing it again? Forgetting to change your VPN, Kremlin troll? Sloppy job. Here's your 3 rubles for your engagement farming, hope it buys you a cabbage
>>522065476Actually the whole point was to bait him into posting a picture of that pathetic crowd. He did my work for me
>>522048275dont forget NATO Regime wanted to bomb media that didnt follow globohomo narrative
>>522065518>abstract thinkingsome niggers are also good at sophistry
>>522065574> Forgetting to change your VPN, Kremlin troll? Sloppy job. Here's your 3 rubles for your engagement farming, hope it buys you a cabbagesource:
>>522065493>fake "russian drones"Mabye they were fake, or not. Sometimes the media is faster at reporting stupid shit than the army at reporting the truth."i´m just a photographer, guys, I like taking photos"."I´m just a drone enjoyer guys, believe me!"
>>522048275NATO: A STRANGE LOOKING DOVE
>>522048275only 2 % of media is critical of NATO in nato countries, yet they wanted to bomb a few tiny voices that showed a different opinion lol, >>522066016someone must tell nato leaders what democracy means, its not flooding the internet with so many bots that "dead internet" theories starts appearing
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>>522066678HARD DEBATE IN WESTERN MEDIA:PRO NATO VS PRO NATOdamn i wonder who will win?
>>522048275>declasified filesFUCK YOU! AFTER THE FALL OF THE USSR I WAS A KID I REMEMBER CLEARLY PUTIN CAME TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND SPOKE IN ENGLISH OR SOMETHING AND HE SAID POINT BLANK MAYBE THERE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY FOR ALL OF THE WORLD FOR AN EUROPEAN PAN ASIAN ALLIANCE , SPEAKING ONLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT A ROBUST ALLIANCE BETWEEN RUSSIA AND AMERICA AND THE EUI REMEMBER IT CLEARLY , THERE ARE CLIPS , WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'm getting angry cuz this is literally bs
>>522048275anyway recap: anyone with a brain knows the west is lying and has doublestandards about everything, and knew fully well this whole situation they started would cause war and did it anywayso im not taking their side now when they pose ad pretend to be the good guys in a situation they manufactured
>>522048275He practically begged This is so bullshitYou know what? I'm gonna search for the clip fuck this , this is literally changing history
>>522048275>>522048275pure coincidence: the same plutocracy that funded nato expansion are now making record profit, pure coincidence
>>522067473>>522067432
meanwhile in lala land lol
>>522048275lmao Dubya nervously cackling like a retard in the background.
>>522048275Correct, NATO is a military union against rusniggeria. Are you just now discovering this?They only wanted to join to veto shit just like G8 anyway.
>>5220489522001 was 24 years ago, dude. that's one year from quarter of a century. I hate to break it to you,
>>522067870>exlude largest cluntry from securty talksOMG WHY IS SECURITY GOING DOWN?westniggers really be like that
>>522048275like i give a fuck what some bolsheviks have to sayliterally anyone would refuse, just look at russia todayit was a good decision, and the fall of the soviet union was equally deserved as it was justified.
>>522064903>Jewish bankers don't genocide European neighbor countrieswell actually...
>>522068203who cares about what some ahmedbot in germany saysat least Russia helping North Korea getting nukes is justfiedhopefully cuba is next
>>522068177The security talks are against rusniggeria. Rusniggeria does not get to play. Rusniggeria is a gas station pretending to be a country, but they also ran out of gas.
>>522068284Nice infographic, schizo
>>522065556requesting hillary-laugh.gif
>>522062340>nato countries have actual electionslmao
>>522048275I really don't give a fuck, what does this have to do with beef prices
>>522068504nobody asked, russia will just take what it wants now, since your not capable of diplomacy, just like your retarded 20% approval leaders
>>522048275Russia always likes to act like a victim. They play the classic, "we are your friends." then stab you in the back game.Is this really surprising? They have been completely run by Jews since the Bolsheviks. They cry out in pain as they strike you.Russia will never be trustworthy and we should have crushed them already, but trump is owned by chabad lubavich, which was founded in Russia.>>522048520>>522048565
>>522068689not every nato country is a kike infested hellscape
>>522048275>you should let us into NATO>you are corrupted shithole we don’t want you in>WAH, THIS IS SLIGHT AGAINST PUCCIA!!!
>>522048275Nato is a grifting organization that requires the threat of a rival to function.
>>522048275i mean i'm not saying it didn't occur but if everybody is in nato what is the point of nato? china?
>>522068801tell me about it sanchez
>>522048275>Putin says>China says>Trump says>Jews sayYawn...
>>522068936you've been in it for like one or two years. its coming. you should take the hellscapes as the norm and realzie you are headed there. your country has shit politcians with their average tenure around 1-2 years so clearly you ahve your own issues.
>>522068801>U.S always likes to act like a victim. They play the classic, "we are your friends." then stab you in the back game.>Is this really surprising? They have been completely run by Jews since the yanks. They cry out in pain as they strike you.>U.S will never be trustworthy and we should have crushed them already, but trump is owned by chabad lubavich, which was founded in Russia.never trust YANK-ISTAN, they will leave their friends behind
>>522068516>seared conscience
>>522068689>>522068936the finnnigger says while not even having a say if his country joined the globohomo alliance or not LOL.
>>522069047NATO is a war industry lobby organization, see >>522067508>>522067473
Bush is so much more effortlessly charming than Trump, and he was honestly a lot more powerful as well.
>>522069371and its not 2022 anymore, we even know they had plans to force finland and sweden into NATO as a response to donbass being rechognized as Russian,thats why they didnt have time for these countries to actually let their citizens vote on their matter, the matter was already decided, but instead of rechognizing donbass more happened instead.
>>522069355>Bro if you just read this 2000 word infographic you'll get it>Just one more infographic bro>I swear bro please just read it
>>522069804he had a more hands on aipac gfuy. when Carl Rove got mad at you he'd takr you duck hunting.
>>522048757>vote
>>522048275Can a country join NATO with active territorial disagreements? Did Russia have territorial disagreements at the time? Do they still have territorial disagreements now?
>>522048275>deliberately surrounding Russia.11% of Russia's border is with NATO countries. Moron. In no way is Russia "surrounded" by NATO, you Russian shill. Facts hurt, don't they, comrade?
>>522069355 (checked)It doesn't weigh ten pounds, it's only 35 pages.>https://archive.org/details/americansofjewis00ster/page/n7/mode/2up
>>522062767Learn to read finnish
>>522048909>they don't align with European valuesThey're doing the same thing as >>522061725 though so far as I'm concerned they perfectly align with them in a way
>>522065476Are you in this image?
>>522048275And he's right. He was always right. Ukraine and all of the US bioweapons labs and it's dancing faggot of a "president" were the last straw.
>>522048275NATO was specifically a defense alliance to protect countries from Russia. Allowing them in would do nothing but rip the alliance from the inside, as the defense guarantees don't necessarily apply to two member states beefing with each other.
>>522058108>as different conquered peoples would rebel with the hope of escape.its so funny when brainwashed nafoid troons spill their completely baseless self wish fulfilment fantasies with such confidence and smugness
>>522072147Third Chechen war when?
>>522048275Pig everyone joined nato there would be no point to nato
>>522048275>He also said that he wanted Russia to be a member of NATO by the USA refused.That's not what happened. They were given a pathway which involved some basic things like not invading neighboring countries. Putin seething about the Baltics getting into NATO in 2004 btw proves that his intentions for NATO membership weren't genuine. You wouldn't be upset about the expansion of an alliance you yourself want to join. Therefore, we can conclude that unofficially asking to join NATO was just geopolitical chess so he could later cry victim about how NATO rejected him. Which is why he wasn't rejected but rather given the opportunity to be a good boy or go mask off.
>>522068801No, the empire always needs a bad guy that they can use as a boogeyman against their populations with the threat that they're going to invade any day now.The whole masquerade is very likely agreed upon by both sides and they both profit from it at our expense.We are ruled by terrorists and gangsters.
>>522048275>>522048275>>522048275MAYBE THE RUSSIANS SHOULDN'T ACT LIKE SUBHUMANS. FAIR POINT.
DAILY REMINDER THE SOVIETS WALKED INTO P-O-L-A-N-D ALONGSIDE THE GERMANS THE RUSSIANS CAN NOT KEVETCH AND PRETEND THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR. THEY'RE SHILLS SILLY GOYMEN STOP WORSHIPPING JEWS RETARDS XD
>> IAM A VICTIM NO JEWISH GOLEM, YOU ARE NOT
>>522071164dont have to, maybe you should read >>522065013NATO leaders were so scared finland would vote no they skipped the vote, volunteer organization where you dont have a say? LMAO.>>522071248>zeroyou got owned, now take that cock in you ass, like you took NATO in your ask without asking
RUSSIA IS THE AMERICA OF EVROPA 50% OF RUSSIA ISN'T EVEN RUSSIAN JUST LIKE 50-60% OF AMERICA ISN'T EVEN AMERICANS ANYMORE XD
>>522048275based Putinmanlet power
simply put: western leaders are and have been for a long time war mongers. constantly projecting their behavior on the evil russians. the amount of bots on the internet to support this propaganda along w/ the mainstream media is immense. you kikes can lie all you want and you may get the drooling braindead goyim but the rest of us see right thru it. your time is coming so keep pushing. seeing euro flags pushing the same old bullshit is more than enough evidence for me
>>522075634>>522075634>>522075634YOU ARE INDIAN XD BROWN 1 INCH SUBHUMAN
>>522058134>>522063228oh yeah we got some dubya junior fans on here you decrepit boomers.
>>522072147Congratulations on demonstrating your complete historical illiteracy and making russian shills look like the morons you are.Read up on georgian war and both chechen wars and then come back to me
>>522075808
There was talk of it at the time or even disbanding NATO and establishing some new global security alliance.Likely would have been a better outcomeBut too many of the USAs ruling class were still stuck in the cold war mentality
>>522075843>>522075843>>522075843THEY ARE WHITER THAN AMERICANS ARE XDDDDDD
>>522076028boomers cant go soon enough
MY FELLOW WHITES
>>522048520Shoot yourself in the neck, NATO shill
>>522076154>>522076154>>522076154AMERICA & RUSSIA SHOULDN'T HAVE LET THE JEWS TAKE OVER THEIR NATIONS PAY THE TOLL
>>522075754are you one of those american accounts posting from india? xdalso funny how "subhuman" narrative is only brought up if you criticize the foreign policy of shitlibs that literally nobody likes, its almost like its bought and paid foroh wait it is XD
>>522048952He’s had plastic surgery done
>>522076220>NBUlBiWDbot
>>522048952>>522048976You are Jewish
>>522075753Name the last country a NATO member state (besides the US) invaded
>>522076154Yeah the USAs post soviet policy towards Russia was pretty retardedThey essentially set out to dismantle Russia as a nation. Destroy its industry, make it reliant on imports and make its government reliant on the USA.Led to the absolute shitshow that Russia became under the oligarchs and things only started to improve when Putin and his buddies took power. This is why Putin enjoys such massive popularity despite everything. Sure things aren't great but before Putin? They were much worse.
>>522076339The USA does fund terrorist groups in various NATO member states.
>>522050283Get back to fighting, hohol, my defense stocks portfolio needs you dead
>>522076339damn i was hoping the butthurt fin would respond >:(keep sucking that kosher dog goyim
>>522068936>He thinks his country is somehow resisting when the truth is it's just not a main priority target for subversion as America, France, The UK and Germany areYou aren't a threat to jewish world domination, tiny brain
>>522048909Europe is currently run by a cabal of white hating golems of the jew, and of course the jew. That said Russia seems to have embraced its own homegrown version of multiculti cultural mosaic bullshit.
no shit? nato was literally formed in order to protect european countries from the soviet unionand since its inception it has been validated countless times
>>522076376well said bong bro
>>522048909Strange. You loved them long time when they fought Hitler with you.
>>522048565Then get the fuck off 4chan. We’re pedos/LGBTQ+ here at 4channel and like it when the ADL gives us publicity on their facebook page. Also, we prefer the term, minor-attracted persons, not pedophile. It’s not illegal to be attracted to minors.
>>522062649>why Because thats their entry into the EU obviously
>>522048275Everyone knows Russia applied to join NATO, but it was only really done as a troll because everyone knows NATO only exists to antagonise Russia.
>>522076431>>522076604Yeah, I had a feeling that's how you guys were gonna react lmao
>>522078989>Form defensive alliance against potential soviet invasion>WTF guys stop antagonizing meEvery accusation is projection kek
>>522048275Stop pretending he’s the one in charge. It’s a fantasy.
>>522050283you guys have wifi in the trenches?
>>522048757Isnt Turkey the only NATO country to attack another NATO country?
>>522048275i mean it makes sense, nato was specifically created against the soviet threatso without soviet (russian) threat there would be no nato
>>522048520>stufyingYou should “stufy” ICE movements, might save your life.
>>522048565>stop defending pedos you sick lazy fuckNATO is a hostile military organisation deliberately surrounding Great Mother Russia.
so?
>>522082435>NATO is a hostile military organisation deliberately surrounding Great Mother Russia.this^ but unironically
The ZIONISTS who sabotaged this should face tribunal.A lot of Khazars go filthy rich off of this engineered conflict.1. In Ukraine2. In RussiaSlide to 2 minutes 53 seconds for the meat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OwTtcAWhOQ&t=2m53s
>>522048757>other countries get to vote if they want the schizo third world shithole as a memberWhich is precisely why your pet hohols will never be Nigger-And-Tranny-Orgy members.Why 'Ukraine' now, you worthless pro-E.U.S.S.R. animal? Wipe those tears, faggot
>>522048565Start killing E.U.S.S.R pedophile politicians, you worthless faggot
My personal theory is that the United States intentionally antagonized Russia as a way to justify American influence in Europe. An united Europe/NATO with Russia included would be detrimental to the United States. Think of it of a cub tiger. It might seem cute right now, but once it gets older and older, it becomes harder to control it. So, the United States "made" Putin in a way.
>>522057904The Captain got live in prison for this, the engineer who overloaded the ferry got 12 years, most of the crew got 3-5 years prison. Korean law appears to know when to punish ‘those in charge’ better than any American court.
>>522048275Without a "enemy" what excuses would they spin for spening all your tax money on military tech? Of course they dont want Russia to join they want to keep building a nuclear arsenal and developing new tools to invade hack spy attack it gives retards "purpose" when they can convince themselves their life's work is the right work against a sworn "enemy"
>>522084639london did this to mainland europe because the UK is basically a 'post-national' country as a result of the past 50+ years of policy with zero industry no resources and absolutely no military to speak ofthe uk is like canada:>"POST NATIONAL"they exist in diplomatic name only and thats itlondon had to ensure no european nation was able to act indipendent of their interference
>>522058108>>522058160Nato is a suicide pact,an extra-national expeditionary force the US masquerades as on European soil for 'taste' and 'optics' purposes, nothing moreWhat appears to be a coalition of dozens of nationsis in reality a dysfunctional web of quasi-territorieswhich all have a non-functional economic structures and collapsing governmentspropping up the entire rotten house of cards.NATO is a network of expendable goylem states to be used up and disposed by USA.Americans will never fight for you, because it's YOUR job to fight for them.NATO isn't there to guarantee your security, it's there to secure the US' dominance over Europe.Europe CAN.DO.NOTHING. about this.london took "peace" off the table, all defenseless Euro's can do is cower in the corner untill the beating of the century comes for themall day, every day another 'red line'nato escalates, escalates & escalatesRussia is being very careful to not beat the homosexual-handicapped-wheelchair bound nato vassalswith the atomic stick they rightly deserveThe US has no 'allies', it's an empire, America disables is allies to the greatest extent it can, then, (as in Rome) they become "auxiliaries"
>>522048275Fucking duh. The USSR didn't even want to join, they only applied to prove they couldn't.>NATO is a hostile military organisation deliberately surrounding Russia.>hostileNigga you dumb. Now Serbia, that was bullshit. But Russia? NATO did jack shit to the Soviet Union other than sit there and say "if you invade these countries then you'll get your ass kicked". Then they quietly watched the USSR collapse by itself because it was a fucking shithole that even the Russians hated and wanted dead.
>>522086081>"if you invade these countries then you'll get your ass kicked".turned out that was the biggest bluff in all of history, and nato is castrated, demlitarized and completely devoid of staffing in any of the nations
>>522048275I read somewhere that Bush actually wanted to let them join but was talked out of it by Condoleza Rice.Huge L in my opinion. Them requesting to join NATO is an admission of total defeat and if we let them in it also makes us look like gracious winners.
>>522086555>Them requesting to join NATO is an admission of total defeat and if we let them in it also makes us look like gracious winners.not its and admission that 80years of cold war dogshit is over, and would ensured Russia would have had internal mechanisms to control londons spying on their nation
>>522086931>Muh perfidious anglosyou VPN niggers are so transparant kek
>>522058134It really is, but we had a choice between a Texan Oil billionaire or a retard climate change shill who believed the internet was just tubes.The moral of recent History is thatAMERICANS NEVER WINSure, alotta (((people))) got rich back then, but even more got poor and even more got poorer in ways we couldn't even fathomand that's precisely why I'm America First!ALWAYS and FOREVER
>>522087016>Muh perfidious anglosYESyou absolute cum guzzling /k/ trannylondon is behind this entire fucking war
>>522087959Everyone but the Russians kek
>>522075316Do you admit that all of what you said applies to the other side too? Case in point: Wall Street funded the Bolsheviks and the 5 year plans, and the US govt provided for heavily subsidized grain sales to the USSR up until the collapse. History is fake and gay. It's always kikes and their goodest goys playing both sides.
>>522088005>Russia wanted to create the centuries largest war on its front lawn because........well....RUSSIA BAD THATS WHY!!!mother fuck you retarded ukrainian dick eaters
>>522048952>be Soviet Jew Russia >successfully destroyed orthodox Christian Russian culture over the course of 70 years while murdering tens of millions of Christians >need to break up Russia for 3rd world war purposes and to allow globohomo jewmerica to successfully divide up Middle East (Freemason Albert pike spilled these beans)>break up Russia into satellite states that are easily controlled by Russian oligarch mob (Jews)>appoint kgb Jew Putin as puppet leader of new Russia >runs Russia according to Jew order and destabilizes Middle East’s north border for 20 years>reverses course and begins to fight globohomo cia in Ukraine in 2013>disappears for 2 weeks in 2015 with no explanation >returns with no explanation and even his wife at time says that it wasn’t him>divorces wife and Russia moves to reignite Christian orthodoxy in new resurgence of anti Jewish policy.> bans Jewish businesses >bans central banking fiat currency >forces Jew nato countries to abandon energy paid in fiat currency >begins coalition of nations to fight against globohomo >calls out Jews and satanists by name in Europe and America Christian russia took control back of its country. They’re waiting on America to do the same.
>>522089331Of course not, anon.They wanted to roll into Kyiv unopposed and end the war in 3 days.The problem the Russians have with the Anglos, and NATO in general, is that they didn't let them casually rape and pillage to their heart's content.Don't lie to yourself, you know this war would have happened regardless
>>522089331You know, you're a lot like a nigger getting mad at a white girl's boyfriend for giving her a gun
>>522089277>Do you admit that all of what you said applies to the other side too?Did you miss this part of the post you replied to?>The whole masquerade is very likely agreed upon by both sides and they both profit from it at our expense.
