>Russia's actual control area is even smaller than it was at the onset of the 2022 war.Why is Putin pursuing peace talks at this juncture?Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.Once soldiers begin surrendering en masse, Putin could secure several times more territory in the short term than he currently holds.
>>522062411they ran out of tanks, and tank drivers.
>>522062411>Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.lol.
>>522062411So March 2022 is your last month of control cope?LOL, no wonder War Mapper quit, to the last hohol, LMAO
>>522062411Russia is a democracy in the sense that citizens have access to outside information and use that to decide their level of participation. Putin has to respond to situations affecting the Russian citizen, he's not an absolute ruler.
>>522062411>Why is Putin pursuing peace talks at this juncture?He's not. He's pretending to be interested in peace talks to not piss off Trump. His goals are the same they've always been - complete capitulation.>Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.You reveal your own ignorance.
Now is the best time to march on Moscow.
>>522065113Can anyone who knows Russian history weigh in on the wagner mutiny? To me it seems like military psyops were used to turn prigo, but maybe this sort of thing is normal in Russia.
>>522065367>Can anyone who knows Russian history weigh in on the wagner mutiny?Nobody can tell you for sure what happened, or why did he stop. You'd need to be inside his head to know. The most plausible theory is that Pringles decided that now is the opportunity to be Caesar, but he thought he's way more popular than he actually is, and the expected support amongst the generals didn't materialize. The one guy he could count on was Surovikin, but he wasn't in any position to lend support, because FSB grabbed him immediately (the video where Surovikin urges Pringles to stop the mutiny looks like a hostage video). When Pringles realized that it's just him, he chickened out.I think he should have kept going. Nobody was going to support him at first, but nobody was going to fight him either. You don't need to capture even all of Moscow to control Russia - just the Ostankino tower, and he could have probably achieved that.
>>522066369He clearly believed that, the question is why did he believe something so at odds with reality. Maybe he was just that kind of person. If you ask me, the social media era and his activity online in the months leading up to the event merit closer scrutiny than most actions of power-hungry madmen. There must have been rational voices telling him what would happen, so who was telling him to be Czar? Bots? If there's precedent for this kind of mutiny, I could maybe be convinced it was a solo initiative.
>>522062411Because pursuing peace talks does not actually means terms will be agreed on, signed or even upheld. Ukraine only gets weakened by the day and the constant talk of surrender only demoralizes mobiks getting mulched on the front, who will feel they are dying for shitholes that will have to be handed over anyway. Even in an armistice is signed, at this point ukraine is in a freefall collapse and a millstone around the neck of the EU. They would need several hundred BILLIONS of euros before the end of 2026 just to even not go bankrupt. Plus once their army is demobilized, they will never be in a situation to draft over a million randoms again. Russia can easily get a break, gather its strength and come back with any amount and ratio of force, politics, diplomacy, covert actions, etc. within a few years, while ukraine will be circling the drain in survival mode and the western states would be even less inclined to defend them, knowing how it will end. Also, there is a non-zero chance that a pro-Russian president gets elected by the boomers in the demographic death spiraling ukraine, as the young ukranians are never going to return from the EU, who will just invites the Russian influence back in.>>522066369Its interesting to consider how far he could have gone and what would have happened if he reaches Moscow. Well, one for the "what if" alt history modders of the 22th century.
>>522068285he could've pushed the timetable on his assassination up by a couple weeks
>>522062411>Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.If by verge you mean 2 more weeks then you are correct
>>522070744Why nafotroons keep repeating this cope? Ukraine is running out of manpower by their own admission, running out of money, in technical default already, support for the war by their own measuring is dropping continously, running out of equipment and ammunition granted by their western allies and the shortages keep compounding sharply. Even according to sources like unian they already had to abandon villages due to operational shortages. They are clearly losing the war of attrition. Russia has more men, more equipment, more ability to finance it and more willingness to keep going.So I ask, what is the win scenario for ukraine here? What outcome they are hoping to get? What would make the tides turn and reconquer all their claimed land, when they couldnt do it in 2023, when they actually outnumbered the Russian troops committed on the field?
>>522062411He's not going to agree to the peace plan shit like handing over the control of Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant are you kidding? Why would the Russians hand it over?
>>522072061You forgot the whole premise of the war was faulty as NATO was unable to effectively fight for them. Anyone still coping at this point is just upset about being wrong and falling for propaganda. The irony of accusing anyone who points out the truth of being influenced by Russian bots.
>>522072548Ukraine needs it and nook plants are expensive. If he does a versailles on them he'll get a Hitler later.
>>522072656I know, but its really funny how emotionally invested they are into it.Its even funnier how the whole sequence of events is a double blunder. Remember when in 2022 how the entire collective west was trying to kick ukraine under the bus and be done with them? Germany wanted their entire aid package to be composed of 5000 used helmets. Then Russia blundered it(mostly due to heavy western interference) then the west went "ohshit, this is our chance to weaken Russia!" then blundered by overcommitting into it and Russia was nearly not as weak as they thought(seeing a historical pattern here), powered through the losses, adapted and beat them in a war of attrition. Save of several consecutive divine interventions on part of ukraine, the only question left is how much Russia will win and what the post-war power structure in Europe will look like. cause just as ukraine kept breaking Minsk I-II. egged on by the EU, I can totally see Russia starting to apply pressure again within a few months to years, knowing that the west will be even less willing to commit into it. You think Trump would send boots on the ground in 2028 just as Vance's election campaign is starting if the Russians attack again? You think the EU would have the financial resource to do a repeat of the campaign they just did and burn 500 billion euros of loans again with nothing to show for it? What if ukraine just naturally defaults as their debts are unsustainable and cannot even pay the wages of its government workers and its pensions? The societal instability might just see them lightning couped by Russia within a year or two.Unless Russia fucks up big time, most of ukraine will be firmly within their hands within the next decade or so, as there is no force available or willing to commit into stopping them.
