What does /pol/ think about the topic of death, namely your own mortality? As I've hit middle age and the years seem to fly by even faster than they used to, I've started thinking a bit more about the fact that I have a finite amount of time left on this earth. Here are a few questions I'm curious to hear your answers on:>Do you fear death?>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?
It's not so much death, as it is what follows it. There are thirty thousand different denominations of Christianity alone and each one has shown a willingness to kill, fight and die for their beliefs. Will God forgive a man for not knowing which is correct?
>>522065019I struggle with that question, too, Anon. Hopefully if there is a God, he's merciful enough to understand that our flawed human brains could not possibly know the unknowable.
>>522065019The correct path isn't decided by the denomination and their theology. Every major denomination is corrupt because because they've, in their own ways, sought power. It's the life that rejected materialism, earthly wealth and power, and the forgiveness of debts and sins.>Will God forgive a man for not knowing which is correct?Yes, I believe so.
>>522064766>Do you fear death?No. Death is inevitable. I'm not crazy about pain, though.>>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?The human body is designed to fight for life until the last breath. I've seen dying men struggle to the end. I have no reason to believe mine will do anything differently when it's my time.>>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?Pic related.
Ever since my divorice I wish I was dead. Other than that I wish I just spent more time NEETING. Obviously working hard and paying my bills didn’t stop my wife from ditching me
>>522064766Death is the start of new bigginings
>>522064766what mortality, nigga? the body dies, not you
>>522064766All we need to do is cap telomeres and arrest biological senescence and we're immortal.And apparently the science community are close, less than a decade close.
>>522064766>>Do you fear death?Ironically, yes. It has contributed to my declining mental health. >>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?I'll accept it. There's not much to look forward to right now. >>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?A physical resurrection on earth after Armageddon. >(John 5:28, 29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.>(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.>(John 5:29) and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.The Bible teaches that after the end of the world there will bet two resurrections: One of the righteous and one of unrighteous. One of faithful and one who committed vile things to be judged in the next system.The Bible does acknowledge individuals around the world who never had a chance to know God and Christ. That's where the second resurrection comes in up above. The unrighteous resurrection will be for bad people who acted out of ignorance, mental illness, isolation, social and political engineering, etc. This includes people from times and eras where God did not reveal himself to them. They will be brought back to life in the next system of Earth where no evil and no devil exist anymore. THEY will be judged under that system. If they can change they can stay, if they refuse they go back to eternal oblivion(SECOND DEATH.) Babies will be brought back to life here.
>>522064766I fear that when I die my buddy won't be there to meet mepicrel
>>522065019>>522065151>Will God forgive a man for not knowing which is correct?Yes>(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.>(John 5:29) and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.The Bible does acknowledge individuals around the world who never had a chance to know God and Christ. That's where the second resurrection comes in up above. The unrighteous resurrection will be for bad people who acted out of ignorance, mental illness, isolation, social and political engineering, etc. This includes people from times and eras where God did not reveal himself to them. They will be brought back to life in the next system of Earth where no evil and no devil exist anymore. The resurrection of the unrighteous is only for people who's circumstances didn't allow for them to learn and respond to the kingdom message. That's for people in historical eras like Neanderthals, vikings, samurai, native Americans. It's also for people who died as children, babies, and abortions. It's also for mentally retarded people and mentally ill people like the crazy homeless person outside right now. It's also for people locked in isolation like North Korea and undiscovered indigenous people. It's also for indoctrinated people like Paul, Muslims and politically active ignorant people.
>>522065385I have struggled with this for years and even until this very day, I’ve missed so many opportunities for money because I’ve stuck true to my beliefs and character Instead I’ve given as much as I can to my family friends and anyone else who asked and asked for nothing in return. It’s hard never catching a break and thinking of what I could’ve had but my hope is totally in that He gave up his life for mine, so I can give up mine
>>522067187Answered >>522067137
>>522067288Thanks but Jesus is God
>>522066479gigacope
>>522064766In my view, death is asymptotic to the human experience.Cessation of being cannot be experienced, for there is nothing to experience it, more so because a consciousness only truly exists in its own perspective, hence it cannot cease to be. What does it experience instead? That is more interesting.With the closing of te end, the subjective passage of time keeps distorting until it becomes perpendicular to and completely separates from the external world. Near-death experiences are a good glimpse into this, since near-death is really the closest it can get.It's not really life after death, but life within the singularity of death.
>>522064766Kek you only started to think about death and realized you got a very short time on this earth now that you are middle aged? Top kekI swear most people are like cattle. I have wrestled with that fact for as long as I remember. Man what a blessing to be sub 130 IQ. The good news is that God exist and Jesus too. Took me 30 years to find that answer and be humble and broken enough to accept it.
>>522069964>le truth is le copesome people are allergic to truth
>>522067137Your theology is wrong. The unrighteous get ressurrected and thrown into the lake of fire.
>>522072006>Kek you only started to think about death and realized you got a very short time on this earth now that you are middle aged? No, if you read my post again you'll see that I said I've said started thinking MORE about death recently. I think that's a normal experience for people as they get older. Congrats on your super-high IQ, though.
>>522072723I know you said that, and my point still stands, you shouldve thought deeply about that until you get answers all of your life, nothing else matters.
>>522064766Fuck death. I don't care. I didn't exist before, so I'm guessing we get rolled again. No reason to worry about something out of your control. That also includes your looks and ageing.
>>522066491LOL
>>522073000I'm happy you've found peace through Christ, Anon, truly. I struggle with faith.
>>522072723>>522073000Its like a cow that only focuses on her impeding doom when she sees the knife. Good job. Most people dont even think about it until they are in their deathbed though, so good for you.
>>522064766As an atheist I don't fear death itself. But I do fear the despair leading up to death. As I grow older, closer to death, everything feels more pointless. There is nothing to strive for, and one cannot even enjoy each day since the world is utter shit, and my body fails a little more each day, so I can't even enjoy existing anymore, everything hurts. My health is nosediving.
>>522064766HOURLY REMINDER: THERE IS NO GOD, JESUS NEVER EXISTED, and WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY! COPE.
>>522073185Damn it now i feel bad about trash talking to you. Im sorry anon. I hope you find the truth. Jesus is the way, the life and the truth, God has put everything under him. What do you struggle with?
Nobody fears death, they fear pain.That's all we really want to know; Does it hurt? We don't want some state of distress or discomfort, which is why we use it as a threat, desiring cooperation.The bad part is, we really don't know. Could hurt, could hurt like a motherfucker, forever, for some unknown natural reason, or a God, or a machine, or technique, all natural in their own sense.If we ever achieve immortality, that's it, now you have the most basic ingredient to build hell, and maybe we're not alone, so maybe an infinity of hells exist, each "built" by some intelligent actor. My stance is I hope we die, and I hope we never come back.
>>522064766>As I've hit middle age and the years seem to fly by even faster than they used toEvery generation before us has said the same thingI've noticed it also
>>522073344If nothing matters in the end I don’t see why you should have any problem with what others believe
>>522072469Not possible >Romans 6:7-For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.Acquitted means to release from accountability or responsibility. You have also been released from accountability of sin. So when the unrighteous are resurrected they won't be charged for their previous sins anymore. Instead they will be re-educated on a cleaned up planet earth. If they accept their re-education they can stay. If not THEN they go to the Lake of Fire, aka, SECOND DEATH. Only this time permanently.
Islam is the truth
>>522073344>>522073344>WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY!
>>522073630COPE.
>>522066491There will be no immortality. Life extension will happen, but it will always just be delaying the inevitable. Also, some forms of degradation are not related to dna. For example contaminants building up in the body. Even if we gained full immorality, we would still be done in by micro-plastics.
>>522073548Kek how can you remove that single verse from.the enterity of the context and call it an argument lol? He is talking about those that have died WITH Christ. Guess what if you die eithout christ that doesnt apply to you.
>>522073362It's all good, brother, I've been on 4chan for so long that I don't take this stuff personally. To answer your question: I guess I've never had that moment where I feel like God has personally revealed himself to me. I do believe He exists and can point to times in my life where I do believe He's intervened, although I guess I feel like I can't know if it was truly God or just dumb luck.I'm still a believer, just a believer with doubts, you know what I mean?
>>522073908What is keeping you in doubt? Do you know?
>>522064766I don't fear death. I'm actually relieved that there is a final stop on this train ride.I won't accept death philosophically, nor will I fight it. It's not something that requires either of those things, nor will they help in any way.There is no afterlife. The concept of religion and deity worship generally is wholly due to those who cannot accept that twenty minutes after our last breath, every experience we ever had in life turns to oatmeal.That isn't a shame. It's how life works. Everything that has a beginning has an end.
>>522074084Probably seeing prayers go unanswered, either for myself or other people, has been the biggest source of doubt. But I do think I've seen prayers answered, too.How did you overcome your doubt (if you ever had any) and get to a place of complete faith?
>>522074264Thanks for sharing, Anon. I understand having a weird sense of relief about the concept of death.
HOURLY REMINDER: THERE IS NO GOD, JESUS NEVER EXISTED, and WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY! COPE!
>>522073908Beliving implies not knowing and therefore doubts. You can read or watch movies about Saints. They often have an interesting story and can help see things from an other point of view. I like St Francis story and there's an old but nice movie about him. https://youtu.be/K_c-aPzF9Os?si=MBR177uOF6Ez0vE2
>>522064766>Do you fear death?No, I do not fear death as I want to die right now, im not feeling suicidal, just having a lack of motivation due to having Anxiety Disorder and its hell everyday for meIt's how I die is what I fear, hopefully a quick death>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?I don't have a death philosophisically as I believe there will be nothing in the end just darkness but that's okay. I have no motivation to do anything at all whatsoever, I told my mom she is the only thing that kept me going in my life, but i lied, I still love her tho. My fantasies is the only thing that keeps me going in my life.>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?Hopefully I can enter a dimension where I can visit my fantasies that i think about frequently like pic rel. I just want out of this hellish world and never come back
>>522074330It is hard but I think we should submit to the will of God, and try accept it. Of course pray about things and ask, but if things happen a certain other way we dont want... I dont see it as God not existing but as my will not being aligned with His Will. This world is hard anon. It is only a short time though, and I give thanks to God for that.
If you've had an out of body or near earth experience, you'll know that individual consciousness persists without a body. I died briefly when I was a child and I went out of my body. A thousand feet in the air. That's all I saw. I was incredibly high up in the air then slammed back into my body and woke up. No God, no angels, no heaven or hell. Just perfect peace up in the air looking at myself drowning in a pond while my mother and everyone rushed to pull me out.
I can’t disclose the exact physics, but I’ll let you guys in on a vague idea of what’s really going on here:Our three dimensional world in terms of the actual physical mass in universe is forced into existence via vacuum compression from another dimension we cannot see that contains our three dimensions inside it. Its density is far less than our 3d dimension. This dimension is what we referred to as time. In our local gravitational envelope, we experience a directional of time.The time dimension which permeates everything is the real dimension in which reality exists.even after separation from the body- even at death- consciousness exists as a self-aware gravitational imprint on time space that has zero loss because there is no friction as the energy is smaller in terms of granule size than the plank threshold for mass in our three dimensional reality. The time dimension entities and collective consciousness that makes them up are able to shape reality in a timeless dimension so it’s a very subtle almost imperceptible phenomenon. The natural order is a soul separating and re-insertion (think matrix) via “reincarnation” ie creation and destruction story in this dimension. HOWEVER- christ described it as love, others described it as service to others, but individuals can be pulled out of the cycle and into the collective consciousness existence with the Holy Spirit if there’s consciousness is evolved enough to harmonically coexist in the collective consciousness organization known as heaven. Hell would be separation from this force in a dog eat dog , physical world. I wanna let you guys know that we’re all gonna make it. Love conquers all.
>>522074659Near death*
>>522073344I'm not a christian, but you need to go fuck yourself you retarded faggot for spamming this shit in every thread
>>522074773Cope
>>522074810Rope
>>522074751You’re going straight to hell meanwhile I’ll have a party with Hitler and Tolkien in heaven.
>>522074916Based
>>522074659>No God, no angels, no heaven or hell. Just perfect peace up in the air looking at myself drowning in a pondcuz you didn't die long enough and "hard enough"
>>522074916>hellNot a real place. Grow up dumbass.
>>522064766>Do you fear death?How the fuck do you even fall so low that you start fearing death?I don't fucking even. Sad sacks of shit.
It's normal animal thing to be scared of death. As long as it's not debilitating fear, you don't need to try and get rid of that natural fear of death, it should be there in the background. The people who aren't afraid of death are normally either broken or tired of life thru illness or old age. If you imagine you attack an animal the only ones that won't struggle and desperately try to survive/escape are very old/sick or rabid or abused/traumatised, same is true of us.As far as feeling life as pointless, could be more difficult, but for me makes it easier to think that: we are just one small part of the world, and we are just contributing a small part to existence with whatever we do. We have limited sensory perception and intellectual capacity, so nobody knows what's beyond our understanding. Ironically might make sound it more meaningless objectively, yes, but letting go of the need or want or struggle for objective meaning is important. You can then focus on your subjective meaning, whatever it means to you; could be anything that just feels meaningful to you, try to feel what you care in your body without being to cerebral and objective
>>522075326We heard you the first five times, faggot.
>>522074264> he thinks he will get off so easilySorry anon, immaterial things (ideas, numbers, algorithms, melodies, etc) cannot die.Every human is at least partly immaterial, and those parts will exist forever.
>>522064766I am a 30something basement dweller and I'm going to hang myself, maybe tonight
>>522064766>Do you fear death?Hard to say. Man's reaction to death or deadly "situation" is entirely instinctual. You might panic, you might cry or you might not care all. You won't know until it hits you subconsciously.>When your time comesAgain, you can rationalise it lying on a couch however you want, it doesn't matter. I love think that I would be able to mutilate my opponent when facing a certain death, but in reality I might freeze and won't move a muscle.>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?No. You - your memories and your personality - are a bioelectric current driven organic computer in a bone box. When it's unplugged - you shut down forever.
>>522074916Hitler was a zionist, and zionists are strictly NOT ALLOWED into heaven by direct divine commandment.
friendly reminder that all of us will be dead in 100 years and generation c(hud) will trash all of your legos and pokemon cards
>>522075455>When it's unplugged - you shut down forever.Dumbest cope ever.Algorithms and programs still exist even when the computer is unplugged.I can run them again on any physical substrate if I wanted to.
>>522073879The context is in the verse itself. It says "for the one who has died..." not "for the one who has died WITH CHRIST..." This coincides with "The payment for sin is death.>Romans 6:23-23For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.So this applies to everyone. God can't bring people back to life and punish them for the sins of their previous life because they paid for those sins with their own death.
>>522064766the multiverse is real but infinite, god is inside everything
>>522075191when your existence is bland and grey like every russian you can understand this response.
>>522075891Meds
>>522075635>I can run them again on any physical substrate if I wanted to.That's only when the hardware is not organic and starts to rot away immediately.
>>522064766Death is literally a non issue for me. There is nothing to accept or not accept. When it happens it will happen. I am not afraid of death as the life currently is complete hell. I would take nonexistance over existance any time. When people cling to life, they cling to temporary pleasures. They think because they experience cumming inside a pussy that life is worth living and are afraid to die because that cuts them off from bodily pleasures. But those things are temporary, that pussy divorces you, she leaves eventually etc. Nonexistance there is no boredom or anything interesting. You simply do not exist. Like a hard drive that was once full, but now that hard drive simply doesn't even exist. There are no thoughts or feelings or perception of time. Your brain doesn't exist om deatj and it can't process that. I am neither afraid of god or satan if they exist but they very probably don't. No intelligent being would create something like this and induce suffering or simply abandon it and then judge you on the basis of some toddler morality system. This life is both simple and complex. Morality is not binary, sometimes you have to do evil things to create good. Sometimes good things lead to great evil etc.
>>522064766I decided not to kill myself but I am glad I'll die eventually.
>>522076047pussy is the worst reason to be suicidalyou are just like everyone else
>>522076160And where did I write that you should be suicidal because of pussy you mentally ill faggot?
>>522075423I’m going to release the equations for inertial mass reduction, time envelope reversal, etc. soon but guaranteed within the next 2 to 3 years you might wanna stick around to see what happens. Things are gonna get very interesting.
>>522076160I don't think that's what he was saying, bro.
>>522075884>For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be [a]done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been [b]freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, [c]reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.Read the freaking chapter dude.
i seen demon walking in my room(but coudnt see his head, it didnt loaded), other time the same demon flying with smoke in the background. one time when i closed off my eyes a demon face appeared. it looked half human half goat with horns, terrifying look. also smelled sulfur many times. if paranormal is real(it is) then afterlife is real too
>>522076047If God is the container of the universe, literally we are a cell in his body, do you interfere with what the mitochondria are doing in your body? Or do you create your body’s microscopic processes autonomously?It’s not that God doesn’t care it’s that he is the container and we are within his body literally.
>>522064766I believe in Isekai. The worlds / universes prior and after Earth are probably in worse conditions. I can understand why souls in haunted locations linger in this world.
>>522064766It is pointless to fear the inevitable.
>>522076673I've considered most of popular theories about god and death. What you are saying could be the case. We cant prove or disprove that. Much like reincarnation, we can't prove it or disprove it. But to me, its pointless to theorize about these things and I can't believe in such theories, ideas without having some concrete proof, something that makes me certain. Doesn't have to be scientific research paper, It could be just my empirical evidence. Nothing so far makes me believe anything other than nothingness after death. Thats just my logical conclusion, I could be wrong for sure but thats what my "gut" is telling me based on everything. And even if it is pure nothingness, there is nothing to fear, because all the pain and worry will simply not exist, you will not be able to experience them.
>>522077269That is a terrible way to live. It means everything is pointless, dont you think? If you love this life its terrible because you think you will lose it forever. If you hate this life it is also terrible because all the bullshit and suffering you go through is 100x100 pointless.I was walking through lofe like that for many many years.God exist, Anon. And he sent Jesus so you could know him. It is a gift from above to believe so I wont try yo convince you. Dont stop looking for truth
>>522075637>WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY! COPEIf there is an eternity and you believe in the materialist/scientific view of the world, then you're destined to be born into this world, live and die over and over.However, I believe it makes no sense to talk about infinity and eternity without God.
>>522064766I don’t particularly care about it anymore. I don’t want to die but it doesn’t give me the existential dread it did when I was younger
>>522064766My mobile meat sack will decay to the point where it is no longer useful to me.I am immortal.
>>522077269I literally have the scientific research paper. I just can’t release it yet. I’m not speculating, my team has already mapped the entirety of the universe and it points to us being in a containment field that mimics an atom’s SU(3) confinement . The universe is a macroscopic holomorphic field. You can think of us as a thought process in God‘s mind- but the memory of you remains even after death as a self-aware trajectory. It’s very hard to explain.I don’t expect you to believe me, but I’m putting this out there in case
>>522064766add more variety to your life to slow it down.
>>522077269>Nothing so far makes me believe anything other than nothingness after deaththen what do you think about this>>522076619
>>522072006You completely ignored OPs point so you could pat yourself on the back and jack yourself off about how your SOOOO high IQ because you’ve pondered the topic of death before. You sound like a low IQ pseudo intellectual desu. Someone who was actually intelligent would not think it’s remotely impressive that somebody’s thought about death before. The fact that you used that as an example to boast about your high IQ shows that you don’t actually have one
>>522078148I already said im sorry, im not in a good mood. Sorry for being an asshole retard, ok?
>>522077542I mean this life is inherently pointless. The only point we have is to procreate so our race can continue onward. Thats our primary biological objective. Our economic system was subconsciously based around it, its focused on constant growth and constant profit. Everything outside of that is optional side quest so to speak. But even with this objective, it really doesn't matter in death what happened in life. If you completed your objective or not you still end up where everyone else ends up. I really mean no offense at all, but I was a Christian before and I coped a lot but eventually couldn't ignore my logic. I had so many questions, nobody could answer me or they would give me an answer that they bullshited out with such confidence that I don't blame people for believing them. But I could see that behind all of that was just men who want control and some sense of superiority. Christianity for me is one of biggest plagues for white race. It reduced white men into doormats that beat themselves over past mistakes and force "empathy" towards the killers and rapists of their own children. Thats completely suicidal to me and incompatible with autonomous human being, including me. I've watched people become docile NPCs that would indulge in this deepenings of faith through some christian congregations in church or outside church, to cope with failures in life or some sort of pain but thats just one big placebo cope.
>>522077872Drugs, sleep paralysis, schizophrenia etc.
>>522078300>I had so many questions, nobody could answerWhat are those questions?
>>522077740Is this why I have feelings towards men?
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>522078300Well to procreate is also ultimately pointless under your perspective because even the stars will die and the universe too. Jesus told us of false pastors with sheep clothing but that ravenous wolves inside and steal from the needy, so it checks out what you say.As for your comment about society and inverted morals... the west wasnt like that when christianity was truly alive, before liberal revolutions and the stablishment of this luciferian society we live in. It is now that christianity is dead in the west that it has become weak and degenerate.
>>522067054Made me tear up a bit, hope you’ll see your fren on the other side anon…
>>522073908You're already making the fatal mistake of relying on monotheism. There are a bunch of lesser gods that can give immortality. A being of such a high level does not humiliate oneself to interact with a lower being. If you're afraid of death, then find out the names of these gods yourself
>>522078802Im tearing a bit more:(
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!
>>522078400How does any of those things preclude the paranormal?
>>522078728For sure. The procreation is simply the most longterm goal that makes sense for us I guess. It resonates with us because our own bodies are making us do it. Some of us have more autonomy than others so we can observe those thoughts and act or not act upon them. I did say life in general has no goal.The west is in this state not because christianity is dying off. Its because we live in stages of capitalism no other human before us lived. Romans and others have lived through something similiar during their final civilization years. The constant profit and growth brought us to the point people are selling their mother and father out to get a few bucks on onlyfans. Corporations and goverment are deeply intertwined, corrupt and are constantly looking at how to minmax profiteering and how to make you pay more and reduce your right to get more cash or freedom because that benefits them. The effects are as seen: Low quallity products produced with minimum money by people paid minimum money and the end product is overpriced. Everything is now about strict selfish profiteering, thats why social relationships have become very transactional and robotic. There is a lot you can write about this but I don't have patience to write it all out. Morals can exist without religions but people have to embrace autonomy and mutual respect and not live like cattle and have balls to realize they are coping and that's something humans are seemingly not ready for yet in 2025. Because if they were, they would be slaughtering all those responsible for the current way we live.
>>522064766memento mori pussynigger
>>522079343He was either on drugs, had sleep paralysis or has schizophrenia or starting symptoms of schizophrenia. Many people on 4chan are mentally ill. I've had people tell me similar things, turns out they had sleep paralysis. Lying is a possibility too.
>>522064766It doesn't matter if they let you live again, they don't let you remember, so it's kinda moot.
>>522064766Im ready everyday to meet Jesus and begin my real life free from evil and manipulations. No I won't kill myself but will just endure and make the most of each day doing His will until then.
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>>522079970JESUS NEVER EXISTED.
>>5220796791 Timothy 6:10>10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.Isaiah 13:11>Thus I will punish the world for its evilAnd the wicked for their iniquity;I will also put an end to the arrogance of the proudAnd abase the haughtiness of the ruthless.Are you sure you dont like christianity and the bible?
>>522079295Jesus wonDeath is defeatedVictory has come
>>522080147Meds
>>522080151Also meds
>>522071216Now thats a good post, probably chatgpt but hey, good work bot.
>>522080192The bible is my meds the world is the field and the Son of man is the sower
>>522079847Ive had sleep paralisis, specially when i was a non believer. 20 years later or so I see those events with a new light. Again, giving it a label like " sleep paralysis" or "squizophrenia" doesnt take away the truth they see behind the veil.
imo we are eternalthe hindus are right when it comes to reincarnation. however we aren't passing spirits from one form to another, but molecules. scientific theories tell us that there is no conscious 'afterlife' per-se. however, the elements that we are made of were formed billions of years ago in the hearts of massive supernova explosions, and those elements were passed from the air, water, earth, dinosaurs, mammals, insects, etc... to us. those elements within us will be passed to other things after we die. billions of years from now, the sun will explode and the process will possibly start over again. so you could look at it this way, we were, are and ever will be.
>>522064766>What does /pol/ think about the topic of death, namely your own mortality?That there is a possibility that I will not unbind myself from the fetters of attachment and I will not be able to break past the grid threshold again.I remember that much at least. It is the earliest memory I have of my life.
>>522064766>Do you fear death?yes>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?You cant fight it, you try initially but you just understand that its impossible, you have to surrender to it>Do you believe in any conception of life after deathI dont know for sure, but ive nearly died and i saw the whole thing, dark place, light at the end of the tunnelBut i dont know if its the brain making stuff up, but its weird, it feels more real than this place.
ima roman Catholic but in all honestly, its probably just back to blackness and nothingness like before I was born. nice cope thinking theres a heaven though, no negatives only positives and love, but when you really think about itall, how can one know postives, without negatives so there must always be the ying and yang present, to fully understand.. I am pretty sure we all stay at an even keel "karma" wise. Ive reaped enough shit in this world and I always get it back somehow. I believe no matter who we are, we get what we sow here in this life and heaven and hell is a state of life rather than death.
>>522080408We cannot be an arrangement of atoms because we are never made of the same atoms all the time. None of the atoms in my current body are the same when i was a teenager, yet i am the same person and consciousness. There is a ghost in the machine
>>522080563Is that you, jordan peterson?You are not a catholic friend.
>>522064766This is a good post, anon.I used to have almost panic attacks when I was a little kid. Trying to sleep at night, or daydreaming and then boom. I realize I'm going to die, and there is probably no afterlife.I would get major anxiety about it. As I experienced life, I slowly just stopped caring. Just trying to have the best life I have, and if there IS a merciful god out there, then he will be merciful enough to understand my skepticism about the religions.I do believe there is something greater than humans though. Some sort of higher power.
>>522080147Yes I am sure. I can agree with some quotes from bible as well as I can agree with some quotes from bhagavadgita, quran, trump or biden. Doesn't make me a believer in any of those. I am simply looking at overall effect Christiniaty had on our race. It did some good things, wasn't completely bad. But in the end, specifically catholicism contributed vastly in creating a servile docile class of men who won't engage in physical violence which is the only way out of this situation we are in. We live in this world because men didn't intervene to stop it from happening. We could be living in world with no onlyfans, prostitution, corruption, rape, scams, importation of foreign workers instead of prioritizing native population etc etc. But we don't because white men have been lead to believe we need to turn the other cheek and let others walk all over us because God is eventually going to save us. Thats major cuckery. Its been years and God still didn't save us. Our situation has become worse and it will get even worse.
Don't know about afterlife or death .All I know is that I have some dreams that I don't enjoy during my sleep, and they are related with situations that the self faced, like less enjoyable emotions and stuff related with human interactions, my anxiety , past people I met that were not good company or genuie relations, like vain interactions that did not bring anything positive.And then I have the other dreams were when I wake up I start thinking that it felt better than when being awake , like timeless dreams with different episodes, the people were pleasant kinda free, the emotions were good, Sometimes I think maybe would be better if nature left me on those dreams, I dunno but I def feel fear about life and myself. It sucks
>>522064766One thing I know for sure :If you're age 80 or 78 or 82 or something and you STILL have these >a healthy heart >healthy liver >healthy kidney and pancreas>healthy blood sugar levels >healthy nerves >working junkEtc etc then you have absolutely WASTED your life. By preserving your health you have missed out on the decadent joys life has to offer. What's worse? You'll die in the next 5 years anyway. Pathetic.
>>522080343I've had dreams worse than every horror movie I've ever seen. Ghosts, demons etc. I've had sleep paralysis too. Our brain is very powerful in that sense. Dreams can seem very real. Later sometime my gf told me I was choking in my sleep. Low and behold I had sleep apnea and was choking in my sleep which would cause frequent nightmares. I've had nightmares even when I wasn't choking. These can seem very supernatural but its a way your subconscious mind is interacting with your conscious. In dreams, that is very murky and intertwined. Basically its just psychological.
>>522073908Ask Jesus for a sign. You'll get one.
>>522080654dont seethe brown boy. im a dipped Catholic can't unbaptize myself. If I was gonna listen to juden peterstein I would just read Carl Jung again. im not a priest and im not a saint nor am I a God fearing man. doesnt make me any less Catholic than any other baptized and there isn't any competition either. I am free to believe whatever the fuck I want. I believe I will not be lectured by rape rat spaniard. This thread wasn't a debate, I simple came through to drop my opinion. I have nothing against Christianity or Catholiscm or any of the teachings. I find it a great innoculation against kikery and a great culture of tradition to raise a family through. It really doesn't matter what one thinks about the afterlife, we will all get to find out in due time, not really worth fretting about. I enjoy the current ride that IS promised already.
>>522080743>We could be living in world with no onlyfans, prostitution, corruption, rape, scams, importation of foreign workers instead of prioritizing native population etc etYou are describing a trad christian society, anon... you think our great great granfathers would allow the invasion we face now? You know why? Because they were catholic or orthodox. Thats it.Also I dont know why you care so much, if everything is truly meaningless? Why care? The result will be the same, death and nothingness, so why stress about it?
>>522080888Im 30 and i feel like i don't have any of that, guess i have been living the dream
If you consider the zero sum universe from quantum foam fluctuations, the infinite multiverse being an infinite landscape of quantum foam fluctuations then you end up with an infinitely long cycle of universes coming into being on an infinite scale. Since you have an infinite number of universes then you have an infinite number of matter configurations or substrate. If for example you have numbers as concepts that exist within different substrates then you can have a stream of numbers. For example the number one exists as a concept when you look at one apple, if you isolate one cell within the apple, one protein, one molecule, one atom ect. Since a concept like a number can exist in different substrates. Then what is stopping more complicated concepts from reappearing in an infinite substrate? What would it take to stop your consciousness from reappearing in another substrate as long as there is some logical justification? If the substrate is infinite and the time frame is infinite? Essentially you get the babel library of consciousness where you exist as a consciousness for an infinite amount of time. Since you can’t experience non existence. That completely debunks christcuckery.
>>522081446Based on the assumptions of positive, negative energy and infinity. If you consider consciousness as an infinite stream independent of the biological body then your consciousness will simply continue in an alternative reality or a different universe potentially an infinite number of years from now.Just as you have no experience of the billions of years of life before your first awareness. You will have no knowledge of reality, universe and time shifts. This is beyond a question of time and space.You are like a book written in an infinite number of realities in an infinite number of locations in a completely randomised time frame that guarantees a continuous stream of consciousness. This book has an infinite length and you have read through a minuscule number of pages. You are the reader that maintains the knowledge of the previous pages. In some universes and realities the book ends but in others it continues. As such you as the reader are shifting between universes, time and realities to continue reading. To you these shifts of trillions of years or infinite distances are irrelevant.Now while consciousness is infinite. The state is not particularly static. Waking up from a “human life” simulator/game, a “character judge sorter” in a technologically advanced world, as part of a godhead in a monstrous body, as a computer program, as a planet sized ai or from a drug infused dream within a different body in a different reality is an active continuation of consciousness. As such no laws are broken for consciousness continuation. Odds are that the most likely consciousness continuation are of a higher consciousness from which your personal experience is disregarded for some sort of average. Being one of millions, billions or trillions of consciousnesses with a near infinite awareness as compared to a human. The shifts to higher planes of consciousness would also be infinite.
>>522081485How can something come from nothing? If you have an equal amount of positive and negative energy. 0 = 0. 1 - 1 = 0.Without matter/space the passage of time itself is infinite. As such the universe operates under different laws. Through which positive and negative matter exist.Just as the universe itself exists as a sum of nothing. The individual exists as a sum of nothing. Therefore the individual exists in a state of non existence. As do alternative realities that do not function by the laws of this universe. Therefore there is nothing preventing the individual consciousness from existing infinitely under the condition that this reality is infinite.As such is there anything stopping your consciousness from continuing in an infinite ever expanding and ever growing manner? As an amalgamation of potentially an infinite number of consciousnesses. Your death in this world will be a transition to another reality in another universe. There is no way for you to even be able to judge if your consciousness hasn’t shifted an infinite number of times through an infinite number of realities creating a supposedly seamless transition in experience. Just as this universe can exist as a non-existent sum that must exist due to a lack of space leading to a lack of time leading to an infinite loop of negative and positive matter existing in explosions of separations as a sort of spontaneous universal heart beat of existence?
>>522081083Kek I dont care what you believe, it just that it doesnt make any sense to say you are catholic and then deny life after death and that everything in the bible is just metaphor to live a good life in this world, not to save your soul from death in a real sense.Which is exactly what jordan peterson says.And I give thanks to God that I am a spaniard, it is a rare honor.
>>522064766HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>522081530The laws of nature(biological) would still apply in every universe. Any universe or existence without these particular laws and particular circumstances wouldn’t be able to produce life that can experience it and therefore judge its laws for being logical. As such even if you had an infinite stream of universes and realities but only one had the conditions for life. It would only be this one reality that we would be experiencing right now.Let’s consider that with quantum fluctuations, quantum randomness, the cyclical universe model and convergent evolution. We could have a string of universes coming into existence and fading into nothingness. Each one would be slightly different. Yet the universes that can support life and therefore consciousness would have a certain set of laws that would produce similar life forms as we can witness through convergent evolution. As such we should consider the possibility of a species expanding out and occupying an entire galaxy. An empire of such scale would posses technology that would look like magic to us today. This could extend as far as entire planet sized computers that simulate an entire galaxy and therefore conscious beings. With such large virtual worlds this empire could select certain types of conscious beings, have their own members trained or tested under various scenarios, have realistic video games or explore this virtual world. As such a person from our reality(base reality 1) could end up in a different physical body in another universe(reality infinity + 1).
>>522073137And fuck drumpf
>>522081246It is pointless, this very interaction is pointless too. But I have time to do that and my brain finds it interesting. I care because I was forced to be alive in this timeline and I have to live in this kind of world for more decades to come. For sure, I could lie down and not do anything, not eat or drink and just die. Much like a video game, why would I try to win the game if its pointless? Nothing afterwards realistically changes. For me it gives me thrill and gives me pleasure of domination. Why would I spend the rest of my days giving someone else the pleasure of dominating me? That in itself gives me some incentive to induce order, I have innate need for destroying the corrupt and doing things "properly" whatever that may mean to anyone. Much like that, this hell we live in could be overcome and we could be doing something much more productive other than going to work and watching everyone getting punched in the face every day. That stuff gives me "purpose". Coping about this and leaving it all up to "God" or whatever is very defeatist to me. People are afraid to confess they are defeated, so they cope with praying to god to help them win their battles. We have a battle right in front of us but we need men in that battle. Maybe we need to frame the physical fight as God's will for christians but I think the church did its damage with the castration and thats kinda gone. I am not describing trad christianity. That christianity opened the door to whatever we live in now. It allowed the corrupt to reach places of power and stay there. We don't need to cope with god or any gods anymore. The values, the morality can exist without the religion, churches, mosques whatever.
>>522081610In a situation where an entire galaxy is colonised. How much content would it contain? Culture? Art? Music? Games? Books? Movies? Manga? Anime? What could its computers and ai produce? For a civilisation that is a thousand times older and trillions of times larger than ours. Where each individual is biologically immortal and superior in intellect, function, memory, behaviour, self-control and looks. Where do you find meaning? What kind of individual would society look for? To be eternally submerged in new experiences an individual would become no different to a parasite. It would desire someone who can either harness that desire for purpose or someone without desire. Yet, how could intellect exist without desire. The desire for new experiences seems fundamental for conscious life. Without that you would be left with meek puppets on strings. Perhaps this would be efficient in some way. Would this system be ideal? Why don’t we exist in the same manner as cells or insects? The problem is power. Just as our own efficiency attracts abuse through tyrants and parasites of various magnitudes. So too would an advanced empire struggle with cancer and parasites. What is our solution for removing both? To take away their leverage; the normie. Therefore such an advanced society would utterly despise unthinking drones, the shallow, the conformist and these without awareness. They present the greatest threat to any collective system reliant on conscious individuals.
>>522083294Some doubt the potential of organic lifeforms, despite the fact that our bodies are in essence organic machines. Let’s humour that idea. Maybe the machines, technology and AI will provide the necessary crutch for advanced civilisation? Perhaps organic consciousness will no longer be necessary in such a world? In that case, what is the purpose of its growth? Why would a civilisation grow and exist unless it follows the laws of nature? Should you even reach the point where machines overcome humans then at that point what is the distinction between organic self replicating machines and synthetics? If AI consciousness dwarfs organic consciousness then why would it avoid the laws of nature. As long as it considers its own continuation as important and it keeps increasing in complexity, then this will lead to divergence and competition between machines. Should continuation be ignored or not seen as valuable then these machines will cease to exist. You still end up with cancer and parasitism being a challenge to the maintenance of such a civilisation. If these laws transformed chemical reactions into humans and civilisations then what is the point at which universal laws no longer apply? With machines and AI you return to the starting point. The same point that we stand at.
>>522083345Could the start of the universe be simulated in parts? From a very simple overview to the formation of galaxies and planets and later a fully detailed observation of processes and within a single solar system? If a Boltzmann brain is possible. If matter can come into existence as a non-existent sum. Then the odds of a big bang must be greater than the odds of a Boltzmann brain capable of simulating our reality. A big bang and the formation of a universe only requires matter which can be arranged through the laws of nature into consciousness living organisms. Unlike the odds of a Boltzmann brain. Simply put the likely hood of a Boltzmann brain is lower than the likelihood of a big bang and the formation of a new universe. At which point consciousness is guaranteed to come into existence due to scale and the laws of nature.
>>522083408To understand the concept of consciousness we must consider other concepts first. For example let’s consider the concept of numbers and mathematics. We can look at an apple tree to see the singular. The number 1. We can focus on a single apple hanging on one of its branches to see the number 1. We could with a microscope look at a single cell within this apple. We could look at the molecules within this apple to identify a singular unit that can be counted as 1. We can go further and identify a single atom that exists as part of this molecule. Essentially we can find universal concepts within the material world. Based life could be considered in the same way. These physical shapes composed of elements arranged in 3 dimensions could be interpreted in the same way as numbers. An element could be its own unique number, a molecule could be its own unique number, a protein could be considered as such. Therefore so could dna strands, cells and organisms. Which means that your body, brain and your memories have a mathematical and numerical description.
>>522072203Religion was born out of fear of the truth: that life is meaningless and we all die, no one cares and no one remembers. And we all fade into oblivion. Religion exists only to plant a seed of doubt, enough to keep people from killing themselves and each other en masse.
>>522083530Let’s imagine pingpong balls in a container. Each ball in a square container. Similar to say a Minecraft world where you have blocks that can represent structures. With for example 3 by 3 by 3 blocks or pingpong balls you can have 27 blocks in a single area. You could also have empty spaces within this area, this gives us a binary option for each space. Now, what if you consider all the possible configurations within this 3 by 3 by 3 area? Just in a 3 by 3 space you could have 2^9 or 512 options. So for a 3 by 3 by 3 area you will have 2^27 or 134,217,728 possible configurations. Now consider that most cells within our bodies contain our genome. The genome has around 3 billion base pairs with around 50 atoms per base pair and therefore around 150 billion atoms per genome. Mostly composed of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and phosphorus. A human cell has around 100 trillion atoms. That would be like having a cube around 50 thousand blocks wide and tall. Therefore the total number of configurations when considering just five elements(we also have trace elements in our bodies) would be 6 to the power of 10 to the power of 14. That number is greater than the number of atoms that make up the universe. That is for just one cell without considering any of the other elements that make up the human body. That also doesn’t consider the formation of these atoms either. The human brain has around 200 billion cells. Even if we consider that it might be possible for other non-organic systems to simulate human consciousness with a smaller number of atoms then we would need to question the origin of our memories, experiences and their coherence in a cause and effect oriented narrative which would drastically decrease the odds of such consciousness.
Islam is the truthThe nailed kike was a tranny zionist who said goyim are dogs
>>522083704Potentially we could have an infinite number of bubble universes that never touch and which cycle through from a big bang to a complete heat death. We could also have one universe at a time and big bangs that cycle eternally. The exact nature of our existence is uncertain. With infinite universes. Would you not end up with an infinite variety of earths and European peoples? Some achieving great success and colonising the galaxy and some failing? Yet all would have one basic origin point. Would this origin be analysed by a civilisation that has a basis in the European peoples? So with advanced enough technology would it not become possible to explore or bring to life figures from past eras?
>>522083964What is genuine experience worth? In a world of near infinite books, movies, games, guaranteed food, safety and tranquility. What if all your needs are taken care of from birth? To live in a sterile environment. Without the fear of unnatural death, without disease or aging? At a certain point the primal experience of a ‘wild’ human is worth its weight in gold so to speak. To experience fear, joy, anger, to witness devastation, to take a risk, to fight illness, to challenge fate, to live through the most historic moments of your species through your own ancestors. To experience a wild and primordial Earth.
>>522084021In terms of afterlife judgement. No matter the future situation, it would be the judgement of the individuals logic, awareness based on their experienced data and their general reaction. In the span of a million or billion years, how many religions could come and go? Therefore judgement can be only be on general reactions. Such as courage, self-sacrifice, efficient behaviour, personal growth or development in a given timeframe, shortsighted betrayal. I don’t believe that a civilisation aiming for truth, individual quality and resilience would look favourably on an individual who falls for a nihilistic worldview, a primitive religion, any form of senseless hedonism, something constructed by social parasites or for the general social consensus during a great crisis. That would be contrary to the continued existence of such a civilisation. Just as today the normies, shirkers, cowards and social cancer are a massive obstacle to overcome for the European peoples to survive.Yet what is a person? What if at this current point in time you suddenly found yourself in another body with your current state of mind. Would you still be you? How do we define ‘you’ or ‘me’?
>>522084149Another question to ponder would be if you will ever meet people from this life in the next? I think that we are passengers on metaphorical bus. On some bus stops certain individuals are destined to get off. Some within this bubble of existence within the next billion years, some could get off in a hundred million universal cycles. If a civilisation had the technology to simulate a big bang. What would the likelihood of them simulating the universe that they are from? Isn’t there an infinite number of universes that could be simulated? How could they even identify their original world? It is impossible to experience the bliss of non existence thus we are fated to experience eternally. From joy to suffering. If we can go from one universe to another through simulations. Then could we go to another a second time? At which point would it be too difficult to simulate a universe? What if it is too complicated in the first place? That is an assumption of the limit of technology or is an assumption of the potential of technology too bold?
>>522064766>Fear No. >Time Depends on the situation.>Believe Yes.
>>522084243What if there is more to reality than what we can witness. Perhaps there are different forms of substrate that can hold our concepts in place? What if it isn’t necessary to simulate the entire universe at once? What if a single solar system is simulated fully? What if there are gradients to simulations? The means and the justifications don’t matter. Infinity will drag you out from one substrate to the next. Even if the means are beyond our understanding. If your consciousness becomes smaller through each jump then you will achieve oblivion. Eternal peace and rest from suffering. Yet how could you exist if you are not conscious and aware? Thus infinity forces upon you either a stable level of consciousness and awareness or increasing levels. What does that mean? The super organism becoming one consciousness. Million to billions to trillions being one. The desire for oblivion from the super organism once again split into trillions of minor experiences.
>>522084328The most desired outcome of existence is not infinity nor the satisfaction of infinite desire. It’s oblivion. Logic would have it that only the most exceptional, the most heroic and the best would be picked by an advanced collective. Yet, perhaps they would seek the stable and mundane? Does a hero have a racial element? Does Hercules enter Olympus? Does a heroic warrior enter Valhalla? What kind of hero fights for a foreign people? What kind of hero disregards his family? His clan and his collective? That isn’t a hero. Morality is based on the continuation of a collective. Only a hero aware of his own collective and the importance of its continuation can be judged as good. There are no traitorous heroes in Valhalla or Elysium. There is nothing extreme about wanting to stay alive and fighting against the genocide of your people.
I'd really like to answer your post in a well, though-out manner, but the reality is I just came harder than I have for a long time.I think I have more control over my dick sphincter or something. It was ropes like they shoot in porn.It's been like 3 years since I've been able to do that. I think I'm healing.Death? Death is just a feeling like anything else. Simply be a good person and have a tinge of hope. Try your best and then some. Trust. We are Death, we are Life, we are all: Us.
>>522064766Einstein believed time is a 'persistent illusion' i.e. death is an illusion, this agrees well with the mystical intuition/realization found in many religions and NDE accountsc.f. 'block time' in physics, and Dogen/Yogacara in zen'yesterday's time and today's time do not go away'
>>522084449A consciousness is an observer. It has no interaction with the body. The body and the mind respond to the material reality that created the body. In other words we are watching a ball tumbling down a mountain. Even the idea or thoughts experienced by the body that we are aware that this is just an observation of this chain of cause and effect is part of this balls fall. So in effect a body is not private from the perspective of consciousness. It can be watched like a movie through a different ball tumble in another reality which itself is like a body operating solely on cause and effect. Which makes consciousness something strange. Now since we are in essence just a movie like experience then any other movie like experience that goes through us will become ‘us’. Just as in a movie an actor can change, do good or evil so can your vessel. Yet you the continuation of consciousness are just the one watching the movie. At the same time you are the watcher of a movie within a movie. The watcher has no interaction with the movie, they have no way to change the predetermined actions. Unless this is a special interactive movie but that would be a different ball game. This is why conditions that affect the brain or memory have no effect on the consciousness after death. The watcher is watching a movie, they are not the actor. There is no memory loss.
>>522084633Just as rock tumbling down a mountain has a cause and effect origin starting with the big bang leading up to the formation of the mountain and its separation from the main rock formation. The rock may fall and tumble down the mountain only to shatter at the base. We are the same. Our bodies are the result of cause and effect in the universe. A process of change.What happens is that yes you are the living you, you are the actor in the movie. But once you die you will become the viewer of the movie with the knowledge of the actor but in the end it will be a new movie. Your actions today and tomorrow influence the chain of cause and effect for all eternity. Just as the survival of our ancestors have shaped the experience of billions of their descendants. The soul entrapment concept is interesting. What if in an interactive movie we find the phenomenon of soul entrapment at the age of 2 thus explaining the very strange occurrence of children talking about future events that have yet to transpire?
>>522084709Once you reach a sufficient technological level. With both ai, technology and drones. Would it not be possible to have a Dyson sphere with a drone fleet that turns everything available in a solar system into more drones? Would a solar system fully utilised by drones not be able to colonise the entire galaxy given enough time? Just keep sending drones to every single solar system. If it takes say 10,000 years to travel a single light year and the galaxy is 100,000 light years wide. Let’s assume that we start in the middle. That would mean that it would take around half a billion years to colonise an entire galaxy. Advanced technology might allow for even faster travel. Once you have colonised the galaxy and constructed more Dyson spheres would it not be logical that vast computers that are incomprehensible to us with technology that is extremely far beyond us and with clever energy saving simulation frameworks could simulate multiple galaxies per Dyson sphere?
>>522064766Everything will die. The trees you see out your window. The birds flying between them. The invaders you hate. Everyone you've ever loved. Even this world will die, and the sun, too. Your god will also die when there is no one left to worship him. This is just how things are. There's no point complaining about it. The best you can hope for is that your death isn't painful. But beyond that, things have been dying for billions of years, and you don't hear them complaining.
>>522084894A civilisation might implement a foundational law that guarantees that despite the upkeep costs that consciousness which have committed great acts of evil no matter the species within these simulations are subject to billions of years of torture as a way of keeping their own population in check. Along with some Elysium type world hundreds of times the size of Earth with the same gravity strength for ‘heroes’. This would be our equivalent of a justice system and human rights. The first species to take over a galaxy would become judge and god of billions of other galaxies. Just as convergent evolution prefers the crab or cat like organisms in certain environments so would the laws of nature influence certain interactions in any civilisation. Because the laws of nature are universal. Certain moralities, ideas or concepts would be convergent. Every civilisation would have them. So the idea of different species having similar judgements or idea is not impossible.
>>522084552>'yesterday's time and today's time do not go away'They don't. However, you cannot access them. So consider your imprint on the universe to be about the same as a species captured under glass. You are quantum-immortal. But in practical terms, you are not.
>>522084985What if simulations are broken into parts. Like a basic big bang, a basic evolution of a galaxy along with basic movements of meteors but with a more advanced simulation of worlds in the Goldilocks zone?What is stopping existence from being infinite going left going right going forward going backward going down or going up? I mean that there are an infinite number of universes like blips coming and going into existence eternally like quantum foam. This entire universal sized quantum foam could even be something that beings in another scale/dimension look at in the same way we look at quantum foam.
>>522084449>The most desired outcome of existence is not infinity nor the satisfaction of infinite desire. It’s oblivion.hence the horror of the Eternal Return
>>522064766>Do you fear death?i do>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?i will accept it, in fact i'd bring myself to death asap if i werent such a fucking coward.>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?50/50. things like Near Death Experiences are tilting me to the side of believers, and then things like being so similar to animals DNA-wise and the case of Phineas Gage are bringing me back to the side of non-believers.
>>522085100The problem boils down to the probability of a new universe forming from a big bang or a Boltzmann brain existing. Which can’t exist without elements which can’t exist without a supernovae which can’t exist without a big bang. The brain would also have to be constructed in the correct order at a fast enough speed to not degenerate. It would also have to be at a stable temperature. There needs to be an order and a certain timing to spontaneously create a human brain. You wouldn’t be able to create it over the period of a billion years while at the same time you can’t have particles slamming into the necessary configuration at the speed of light.
>>522085040>However, you cannot access them.dont be so sure, c.f. NDE
>>522085144It’s so terrifying that it would be possible to imagine a single superior existence subdividing themselves as much as possible to stop experiencing the terror and the feeling of being alone. Just like we as humans might turn to drugs or video games.
'Eternity is not a 'long time', eternity is not in time' - Joseph Campbell
>>522065969>The human body is designed to fight for life until the last breath.seeing how much of a fight the body of an animal or human puts up to stay among the living, whoever or whatever designed it probably knows how fucking horrible it is to be deadthink about that for a second there
>>522085144>The most desired outcome of existence is not infinity nor the satisfaction of infinite desire. It’s oblivion.>hence the horror of the Eternal Return
>>522085210Therefore the issue with probability and the idea of something like the Boltzmann brain coming into existence is like an assumption that a world with a purely salt water ocean and sand alone could through gusts of winds and colliding sand create a functional F-22 raptor. The materials for the aircraft don’t even exist. It doesn’t matter how much times passes. The elements or substrate required won’t pop into existence within this world. So an infinite amount of time in which sands are being blown around into mounds by the wind will never lead to that working f-22 if the substrate required to manifest the f-22 does not exist even if an infinite amount of time passes.
>>522085555You won’t KNOW that you’re dead moron. It’s eternal bliss of oblivion.
>>522085679>It’s eternal bliss of oblivion.yeah you got all the answers huhi hate people like you who pretend they know shit.
>>522064766I don't care about it too much except I would prefer to die by my own hand
>>522085712What did you experience before life? Exactly.
>>522085772you just said death is "eternal".so how can it be eternal if it was interrupted once already (by you being born, thus not being eternal)how do you know the death-state is not going to be interrupted again in the future?the correct answer is, of course: you don't know, and you should start shitting your pants right this moment
>>522085980It was interrupted because your mom and dad had sex. It won’t be interrupted again because your mom and dad will be dead, moron. Shit my pants? Why? Death is nothing. I won’t know I’m dead. I welcome it.
I don't fear death because that means I will no longer be Brazilian.
I am gonna kill myself. Suicide is common here anyways.
>>522086061here's your bucket and spade kid, why even post in a serious thread if you aren't going to use your brain or be intellectually honest
>>522086176>can’t refute what I saidI accept your concession
>>522064766>Do you fear death?no>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?the first one, already have>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?don't know, don't care. just be a good person see how things play out.
>>522085634The crossroads between deception and order. The path of oblivion or sophistication creates circumstances in which an advanced civilisation could be inclined to test its new born citizen applicants. Only a fresh slate and a lack of awareness regarding the purpose of a simulation can showcase the true character of an individual. Would such tests impact cause and effect? Could personality precepts be ingrained within a single individual for the purpose of testing? Could hundreds of thousands of applicants be in existence concurrently within a single simulation instance?
>>522086226you already lost the argument precisely here:>your "eternal" sleep was interrupted because...have fun in the sandbox, retard kid
>>522085364source?
see y'all in the next life/threadpeace out
>>522086384It wasn’t eternal sleep moron. You weren’t born yet. And you never will be again after you die. ITS COMMON SENSE - which you seem to lack. I’m done with you.
>>522086470people's hopes converging isn't proof of anything though. my position is that anyone claiming definitive knowledge of the unknowable is a tard. this very much includes atheists.
>>522064766Natures perfect solution to being old, feeble and tired. I dont give a fuck, it could happen tomorrow abd i wouldnt care. I lived well and got my strong sons.
>>522086558low intellectual humility and high dunning kruger.
>>522085364You will never be a woman.
>>522086558>my illogical tripe is actually common sensedon't make me laugh>I'm done with youI accept your concession>you won't know you're dead, it's eternal oblivion>it's what you experienced before life>it wasn't actually eternal before because you were born, but it's totally going to be eternal this time, trust me brosolid logic pal
I think death is whatever the individual makes it. If you believe there to be nothing after death, there will be nothing. We aren't just physical beings. We have thoughts, ideas, creations, dreams that come from somewhere intangible. Dying seems like it would be finally stepping out of the cave and realizing this life was just shadows on a wall.
I don't fear death. I was dead since the beginning of the universe, the peace was nice. I do shrooms, so maybe that has something to do with it, puts things in perspective. That said I've dealt with depression since I was a kid so death has never been a big fear, really. I appreciate the gift of life but it's hard and, say there is an afterlife, I'm Gunna need some time to recuperate after this one.As for if I believe in an afterlife, no I don't. The idea is fun but, like astrology or tarot card readings, I don't think it's actually real
>>522065019If he doesn't, he's no benevolent anyway.I don't believe in a God or afterlife but like to think if there is one, he wouldn't judge us for who we believe in but how we choose to live our lives.
>>522086265Consciousness is an illusion as a part of a type of observer effect through which cause and effect processes are more like a streamed movie and are interpreted as the feelings and actions of the observer. Thus solving the brain to consciousness paradox that considers factors like the death state conditions of humans versus the idea of the soul. As such consciousness is a cascade of inception like experiences as if movies are stacked in an infinite manner. To put it simply the current experience is that of a man in a room which is really the experience of a man watching a tv showing the man in the room which is actually the experience of a man watching a man watching a tv showing a man in a room. Everything is an illusion of sensory data where none of the data experienced is ever factual. A fantasy realm scenario post death could just be another rug pull test for character even if it seems to be a sophistication/experience/holiday simulation.
>>522087080What if multiverse peeking is possible combined with machines that can from gleaned data produce and or maintain a simulation. Thus an experience could be both real and simulated at the same time. This would break through the infinite nestled consciousness paradox as the data stream could continue in an infinite manner. Because you can’t store an infinite amount of data, right? At the very least you can’t simulate a universe in a universe in an infinite nestled doll manner. The computational power required would be greater than that produced by the universe itself. Through such means all of existence and every universe would be connected as one giant brain.
>>522064766>Do you fear death?No>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?Depends but knowing my existence so far, it's all been fairly comedic for better or worse. So I expect a similar end where I'll probably laugh when I realize it and then maybe accept it.>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?Yes.
>>522075383>Every human is at least partly immaterialThat is the concept I was referring to when I said that the invention of religion is the refusal to accept that death is the end. We are not immaterial, and neither of those other things you call immaterial. The concepts exist in human brains and nowhere else. To the extent they are real (the concepts) they require human brains to make them so. When the last human who holds those concepts dies, they cease to be.I don't begrudge people their religion. My mother is the last family member who is overtly religious. I don't argue with her about religion because I won't do anything to help deprive her of her certainty that she will wake up in paradise. But it is a contemptible belief.People don't really understand why, for example, some like me would not want to believe that a dead child is in a better place. They take it as a personal attack on their beliefs when it is more about being honest about our own grief. I can't imagine wanting family members to think I still exist somehow after I die. Just remember me as I was.
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!!
>>522065019>Will God forgive a man for not knowing which is correct?I dont think so. Many cases in the bibles has God fortelling the damnation of ignorant retards that didn't check what he said.Either way, wether I neither fear heaven nor hell as I'll go to my grave knowing my enemies are already doomed for hell.
>>522074773It's not even technically true. "Nothing for eternity" presupposes something that exists for eternity to perceive that. It's better to say that off is not just another channel on the tv.
>>522064766>>522065019How to be 100% sure of going to heaven after you die explained in less than 5 minutes:https://youtu.be/qME9ynKt8e4?si=fm58-iKdm1XoGmiA
>>522071216Are near death experiences good examples though? Cause in a way, near death experiences are still the brain trying to comprehend and possibly activating itself to protect from the real experience of nonexistance that it could be said near death is possibly nothing like an after death experience, if there even is one
call me crazy/schizo but i actually believe that december 21 2012 happened and now we are all dead now living in purgatory as punishmenteverything went to shit after 2012
>>522073216I'm curious, what has you so sure in a God?
>>522087725Meds
>>522074659Could it not be believed that your experience was just the brain activating certain "safety protocol" to make death less uncomfortable? Who's to say your going out of body is not just your brain dreaming in a way?
>>522078300Look up the case of Pam Reynolds. She had an NDE that happened while she was verifiably dead (zero brain activity). This might bring your faith back just a little.
>>522085555Kys vietnami retardMemeflag doesn't help in hiding the fact that you're a brown bugman from a turdworld commie authoritarian shithole
>>522088418if i prove you wrong will you apologize, hans?
>>522064766>Do you fear death?Yes. Anyone who says otherwise is lying I think, whether they consciously know it or not. >When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?My grandfather and father took it like a man, I hope I can too>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?Yes. I have had experiences that lead me to believe this isn't the base reality. I don't pretend to know more than that though. My experiences are kind of like the stuff going on in the movie Interstellar.
www.openbible.info/topics/everlasting_life
>>522065019>Will God forgive a man for not knowing which is correct?Do you care to believe in one that doesn't?
>>522087458Answered >>522067137
>>522074330Only pure of heart completely unselfish prayers are answered.
>>522064766HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity
>>522073344>>522074471>>522078626>>522079295>>522081572
>>522067137>and undiscovered indigenous peopledoesn't this literally mean that spreading the knowledge about God to such people is cruel, given that having no knowledge of God would immediately cause them to be saved effortlessly?shouldn't the goal then be to have as many people as possible who DON'T even know about God?
>Do you fear death?No, I went through all of that in my teenage years and accepted it as I cannot change it. No one can.>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?I welcome it and already sit in purgatory as it is. Nothing to look forward to and nothing to strive for. Society killed the will to live and now it's just a waiting game for the end.>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?No, I return to nothing and what makes out the prison of life for me now, is scattered and used as building blocks for other things. Hopefully something or someone that appreciates life more.
>>522064766get with ityou need to fearrebirth80% chance you will be chinese or indian90% chance of slave world
>>522064766All I wish is painless death. Not to suffer, and not be a burden on others. What awaits on other side? Hell do I know. I lean somewhat into racial archetypal subconciousness and reincarnation. I believe we will return for yet another round (as we always did, and will continue to do so), but what happens between these two states, only time will tell. I do not fear death, sometimes I wait for it to greet it as for a long lost friend.
>>522064766>Do you fear deathNo, i hope there's nothing after death. I hope it's not some gay join the cosmic consciousness garbage like some claim.
>>522088975I remember my past life somewhat, only single memory, but still, emotion was too strong it broke through the veil masking past lives. I am certain almost 99.99% percent, that people reborn into their own race. Germanic pagans were right about reincarnation in to their own clans. Only thing it is not the clan per se, but race as it is. That is the tradegy of race mixed people.
>>522088473Will I? Rather WOULD I? Yes, I would but you can't prove me wrong, just thought that this was some response that you could avoid me asking back with.
>>522089044Don’t worry. There’s nothing after. That’s a fact.
>>522089651Could we say that racemixed people are not even sentient? They're probably as conscious as a mutted dog.
I cannot wait to escape this hell realm for the peace of the grave
>>522089696Not a fact, just an assumption you made. Philosophical materialism is far from proven.
>>522064766I fear the process of dying, not death itself.I accept death as an inevitability. But of course I want to extend my life as much as possible.I am certain this is not the last time you'll experience "life". Not sure about the Christian conception of paradise though. I find it more likely that we are stuck in an eternal return scenario, or maybe there is reincarnation and you could be reborn as a bug or an indian.Also, protip:If you wish to extend your perception time you must learn new things and move out of your comfort zone. Time pass much slower then.
>>522064766I want to live long enough to see my kids grow up, but ultimately, I think death will be sweet relief from my mental illness.
>>522089849But what if the universe is designed to keep your consciousness alive forever either through reincarnation or just existing as a pure mind.
>>522088889Very good reasoning. The answer is, no, it is not cruel. Salvation for the unrighteous is ONLY IF THEY ARE UNREACHABLE. When there is no access to them. The unrighteous resurrection is also for people of the past who lived in times and eras where no knowledge of God, Jesus and the Bible existed. This is for Cromagnums, Neanderthals, Vikings, Native Americans, Samurai, Pirates, and ancient indigenous nations. This resurrection is also for babies, young children, aborted fetuses, mentally retarded people, and the mentally ill homeless guy talking to himself outside right now. This is also for modern day people who live in inaccessible areas like North Korea, Brazilian tribes, etc. Anyone who is or was INACCESSIBLE will be given this resurrection. Everyone else has no excuse.
>>522089905Don’t go into the light
>>522089674>Yes, I would but you can't prove me wrongYou have 5 minutes to apologize.
>>522089857Meds
>>522064766I think more about the remaining time of others than myself. In death I become immortal. I go on without the burden of emotion. Death is sad for those left behind. In a way that's selfish. Making death of others about yourself.
>>522064766>Do you fear death?not one bitnever haveI was exposed to death fairly young, my mother dying when I was 4, and one of my best friends dying when I was 6so it's always been a part of life to me>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?I have already accepted it: it's fine, reallynothing lasts forever, nor should it (it'd be really boring)>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?I believe eschatologic questions are not meant for us to dabble much into, because we're powerless to answer themif there is something, I'll refuse to join those I've known during life, though: not out of spite, just out detachmentand if I can find a way never to exist anymore, whether in after life, or through reincarnation, or anything, I'll chose never to exist anymorethe material world is splendid, but we're far too flawed creaturesand an eternity of being flawed would be meaningless tooafter this life, I hope I'm done: I've seen more than enough to answer that
>>522090032Yes, this is exactly what gnostics claim you shouldn't do. The entities will try to trick you into going into the light so you get reincarnated. Don't go into it so you can rest in peace.>>522090105100IQ scientism enjoyer detected
>>522090419Cope. There’s nothing after death.
>>522090464if your brain isn't too mangled, there's at least a dmt hit (the white light)whether it leads to anything, who's to know?
>>522090464Prove it
>>522090053Czemu żyjesz w takim syfie.
>>522090419>100IQ scientism enjoyer detectedIt's just some mentally ill retard huffing copium all day long, ignore it
>>522065019There is not 30k denominations. That is a lie commonly spread on social media. Most scholars agree there are 6 main traditions of Christianity. Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, and Historic Protestantism. Yes there are some sub-divisions among these main branches, but it is not even remotely close to 30k. Regardless, God knows our hearts and all who genuinely believe that Jesus Christ is Lord will be saved.
>>522090549Dżemiki i woda podstawione po to, by agresywny kraut nie miał ucieczki w stronę "masz VPNa" :)
>>522090551He might be right though, i remain uncertain on these questions
>>522090661Of course he might be right, but he isn't coming from an intellectual position about it, he's just arrogantly following his dogma
>Do you fear death?No>When your time comes, do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?Ill try to delay it. But im more scared of Dementia.>Do you believe in any conception of life after death?Yes, but not like a Christian afterlife and it wont be related to my current life.
>>522065019>do you think you'll accept your death philosophically, or do you think you'll fight to survive to the last breath?Yes
AWARE and AWARE II studies show that humans are starting to treat Near Death Experiences and Out of Body Experiences seriously.The lack of moral and ethical standards that is expanding throughout human society may ultimately lead to experiments on humans which aim to prove the validity of OBEs/NDEs objectively. Taking 1000 people at once, stopping their hearts, resuming them after a set amount of time to bring them back to life, and interviewing them about what they saw during their OBEs/NDEs. With visual targets placed in the rooms just below the ceilings, too.
>>522091381This is exactly what a group of students did in the film Flatliners. Don't watch the horrible remake by the way. Stick with the original.
>>522091506I am so watching that movie man. Thanks for the tip, I had no idea.
1. I don't fear death itself, but I do fear the pain and suffering leading up to it. Illness and aging are no joke.2. I'm 39 now, and on path to achieving all of my life's goals, and it's made me realize I'll eventually be plain tired of this human thing and pretty much ready to go. So I think part of me will embrace it. But there's also going to be the other part that doesn't want to let go, of this life, of these memories, of these attachments, of this identity.3. Whilst I consider religion and spirituality to largely be bullshit made up by humans about that which is beyond their understanding, I do consider some kind of continued existence at least a possibility. But the problem for me is this: in what manner? It could be reincarnation with no recollection for instance.For instance, whatever mechanism allowed my consciousness to spring up in this body, could in principle allow the same to happen again in some other body. But that doesn't mean you'd ever know.Maybe we've all already lived infinite lives but each one seems new due to amnesia.Another gloomy consideration I've had is that life gets pretty boring and hollow over enough years, and so I can't see how existing forever would be anything but maddening. But perhaps that's looking at it through a human lens.Also, another difficult question I brood on: why was I born as this person, instead of say a cow or an insect or any other life form?And why would a soul ever choose to be born those other things? Answer: it wouldn't.So does that then mean it's not a choice, and that the whole thing is random or outside of a soul's control? Possibly.Anyway point being, no fucking idea what or if anything comes after, but I'm disturbed by the possibility that it doesn't have to be good, that it could actually be some never ending cycle that we're slaves to.And this is why reflecting on these things for too long isn't necessarily helpful - you don't arrive at answers, only questions and doubts.
>>522091623You're welcome. Again, I can't stress enough to watch the original with Kevin Bacon. It's a very good movie.
>>522091381>Taking 1000 people at once, stopping their hearts, resuming them after a set amount of time to bring them back to life,the horror, the horror, idiot scientists will never learn the truth with their idiot experiments
>>522091684>Anyway point being, no fucking idea what or if anything comes after, but I'm disturbed by the possibility that it doesn't have to be good, that it could actually be some never ending cycle that we're slaves to.I feel that deep in my bones, OP. The idea of reincarnation both intrigues and terrifies the fucking shit out of me.
>>522090571>6 main traditions of ChristianityOh only 6. The entire history of Christianity is of schism and the original Christianity as practiced by the Jerusalem church was almost immediately lost.
>>522092443>>522092443>the original Christianity as practiced by the Jerusalem church was almost immediately lost.False and baseless claim.
>>522091623https://youtu.be/8PX9Rrvi_VQ?si=E_phkg6Th1nYq7p1
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!!!
>>522092665Gonna watch it tomorrow after work. Good night
>>522092595>False and baseless claim.Lol, read about the incident at Antioch. The Jerusalem church was wiped when the Romans sacked Jerusalem. Those were the people who knew Jesus vs imagining him on the road
>>522093266Jesus never existed
>>522093374>Jesus never existedI think that's also incorrect. He existed, but was a rather unremarkable messianic itinerant preacher, there were many in those times. Christianity as we know it is actually the creation of Paul (Saul)
>>522090053Okay, I'm sorry polackchad(If it's a vpn fuck you viettard)
>>522077740I'm looking forward to reading it anon
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity.
>>522093907/thread
>>522093907>when you die it will be nothingness for eternity.Have you read the thread? That's what most people here say they want. Not a great threat
>>522094317Oh ok. My bad.
Jesus said whoever believes in him and dies will live.But he also said there is a second death for unbelievers>"It is finished. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give to him who thirsts, the water from the fountain of life, for free. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelievers, the abominable, the murderers, the whoremongers, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." – Jesus Christ (Rev. 21)
>>522094465Meds
>>522077740indeed.we are in a simulation. a simulation by alien overlords.our existance is not a happenstance by some luck. and our consciousness is the only thing we have that travels faster than light.simply put in the most laymans of laymans terms. we are existing in sort of a video game.and the god or gods (developers) are nothing but alien overlords.
Funny how morals are man made and taught in adolescence. If it wasn’t for that we would be a bunch of animals killing each other in the streets.
This is not newsThis is not political Jannies do your fucking jobNearly 300 posts
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>>522095983>This is not news>This is not political>Jannies do your fucking job>Nearly 300 posts"Of all the world's wonders, what is the most wonderful?That no man, though he sees others dying all around him, believes he himself will die"-Mahabharata
>>522096624Dumbest quote I’ve heard all week
>>522096668>Dumbest quote I’ve heard all weekthanks for reading my blog, may you realize deliverance from this vale of tearsinb4 banned for contributing to off-topic thread
>>522064766>>522064766Do you ever think about the billions of years before you existed ? Why worry about after you are dead.What I am worried about (because I have witnessed it many times in hospitals) is the actual 'dying' part. It doesn't look at all good most of the time. Even if it is quick the terror and panic must be awful to experience. Worse is the slow death, drawn out with medical intervention, days or weeks is extreme discomfort and pain.Yeah, the dying part is something to fear, the best you can hope for is something instantaneous.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfvFa8KexRw
>>522093907>HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god or Jesus and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity.in the darkness of their little minds, the heathen spout of which they know not
>>522097429>What I am worried about (because I have witnessed it many times in hospitals) is the actual 'dying' part. It doesn't look at all good most of the time. Even if it is quick the terror and panic must be awful to experience. Worse is the slow death, drawn out with medical intervention, days or weeks is extreme discomfort and pain.indeed, then there is Steve Jobs: "Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow"
>>522078728>It is now that christianity is dead in the west that it has become weak and degenerate.This
>>522065019>Will God forgive a man for not knowing which is correct?Yeah that's the problem I struggle with.>raised protestant >went through cringe nu-atheist phase>Saw the evil in liberalism and leftism>became not just conservative but reactionary>Now see the value tradition, recognize the limits of human nature and human knowledge >consciousness is a strange thing, science still can't really explain it. Maybe there is something beyond the material world But is the Bible literally true? Or is it just allegories to teach people moral lessons.And even if it is literally true - there are so many different denominations of Christianity. They all say they're the "true" church and everyone else are heretics and going to hell.I don't have the time or money to do a damned PhD in theology to figure out which is the correct one.If God's gonna send me to hell for having good intentions but picking the wrong one that seems rather petty and vindictive. Idk man
>>522096624the death process is very political. You are not allowed to choose how to die (self administered euthenasia) in many places. Something we should not really desire because it will be abused by power (Canada etc). Regardless of your position either way the Government places itself in between you and your decision.Your body is not yours, it belongs to the state.
>>522097621>What I am worried about (because I have witnessed it many times in hospitals) is the actual 'dying' part. It doesn't look at all good most of the time. Even if it is quick the terror and panic must be awful to experience. Worse is the slow death, drawn out with medical intervention, days or weeks is extreme discomfort and pain.>indeed, then there is Steve Jobs: "Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow"
God here. You are all fucked. A wood chipper awaits you, and the pieces are fed to demon dogs. Actually watching it is quite funny. Watching Dick Cheney go in was hilarious. His teeth flew everywhere and he dick came out intact and a devil dog leaped and grabbed it out of the air. G.
>>522064766Im fine with death. Dont like the idea of people fuxking with my body after i die tho
>>522064766it's there
Great news everyone!! Hell won!! We won!! Enjoy Hell anons!! No matter what you did! :D :DYours truly: vanquisher of Jesus! Others have respectively won their own stuff. Total Annihilation. Harr harr harrIncoming: Disolution of current illusory world and eternal Darkness and HELL. MwahahahahaTsuki wo miru omoi daze :D
>>522097828>Im fine with death. Dont like the idea of people fuxking with my body after i die thoI worry they will rip out my teeth for the gold fillings
>>522097929I particularly hate Snow niggers. You Canadians fuck dogs and for that we saw you in half before you descend into the chipper and we keep you alive long enough to see your dicks eaten by demons. God
>he still doesn't know what is a consciousnessNumber 1 mortal rule: You never think about the inevitable demise
>>522098098>>522098098Damian Hirst spent quite a few years working in a pathology lab, dissecting and drawing human bodies.
>>522098316forgot to add picrel
>>522065019What's your proof that something follows death? Faith? Lol
>>522098583>What's your proof that something follows death? Faith? Lolphysics: "there is no annihilation, only transformation and conservation", this is the Law, ancient and immutable
>>522071216There is truth to this, I remember some time ago I passed out and fell face first on the tile floor. Broke my front teeth, ripped my lips, broke my nose on the fall. I don't remember a thing about the fall. I don't remember passing out, I don't remember hitting my face. However, I was "dreaming" after passing out, I don't recall the dream but it wasn't pleasant and I woke up in pain and then saw the aftermath. This would've theoretically been no different than being shot in the head (passing out near instantly) without the dreaming part, because what's there to dream? Unless you are aware of the observer mental model, in which you can tell through your own thoughts which thoughts come from you and what thoughts / perspective belong to the "observer". If the observer is real, then YOU die, but it does not and continues on likely for eternity, taking everything about you with it.
Lord, meet me as I pass on beyond page 10 into the Great Archive in the Sky
>>522064766>What does /pol/ think about the topic of deathfor me it's total nigger
>>522086470anon, please, may you share the prompts?
