>Gen Z is the least likely of all current generations to seek or form romantic partnerships. >Experts suggest several possibilities. Dr. Jean Twenge, psychologist and author of “iGen,” points to the increased reliance on smartphones and social media, making face-to-face interactions daunting or even unnecessary for many. Digital interaction offers a safer, controlled environment, shielding young adults from the vulnerability inherent in traditional romance.Gen Z is literally the loveless generation
>>522067922jewish influence
Who cares
>>522067922all your interactions are on computers and all those interactions are controlled by algorithms or artificially gated by paywalls or logins. there I solved your dumb fucking "problem" that you caused on purpose.
Of course ((((experts)))) say some bullshit about muh emotions and shit, but we all know why this is>Toxic dating culture>Extremely inflated female standards (even 2's think they deserve 9's)>Anti-male culture and work structuresA country that elevates women at the expense of men combined with women who will only date upwards is a disaster
>>522067922>young men and women aren’t having sex because merge with the machine please goy just merge with the machine and put a nanochip in your brain goy please“Dr” Jean Twenge everybody
Too busy watching tiktok or whatever crap they fill their tiny heads with.
Modern society is a dystopiaThere is no scary future, we're already in itEvery single aspect of society has been designed to ruin the family, and drive a wedge between men & women
>>522067922Certainly has nothing to do with things like family court, alimony, child support, >50% divorce chance, false accusations, me too, potential jail time or getting stabbed in jail because she pointed finger at you and marked you as pedo for life and countless other fun things females put you through.Nope, it's gotta be porn and smartphones.
>>522067922The bravery of being out of range.
>>522067922Romance is impossible when Chad is omnipresent.
>>522068003No jews needed. You fuckers chose gaming, streaming, and media over a crucial stage in your social development because it was safer than possibly being rejected.Old guy here. Don’t see a problem having to find a significant other should my wife die. We’ll meet, face to face.
>>522068420Not even going to those extremes, which are admittedly a minority percentage of cases, the sheer social stigma against reaching out to people is the main thing keeping people apart.Everyone is autistic these days. It's an apocalypse of social anxiety.ANY unprompted attempt to initiate conversation will have the person and anyone around them thinking:A) He has some kind of mental deficiency that prevents him from realizing that people don't *do* that.2) He wants to rape me.Don't you know that people don't want to be bothered, chud?EVER.
>>522068769It’s not Chad- the fictional conglomerate of everything you lack— always being there, but you are not. You’re not the first generation to get deterred and distracted by technology. We had television back in the 80’s and the introduction of cable presented an excuse to stay home to watch HBO rather than go out and hang with our peers. At the same time, cable became the excuse for friends to get together to watch the game or an alternative excuse to take a date home to watch movies and save a few bucks. In college we had privileged kids with their own tv’s that seldom came out of their rooms and we had students that lived in front of the tv in the common area joking around and getting to know each other. We used to do theme parties based on tv events where beer and fun were central.Your relationship with technology only isolated you further.
>>522068420You have to leave 4chan sometimes. It's for your own good, Ryszardt. happily married
>>522067922'98 zoomlord hereI spent my youth up to age 23 thinking things through because my vision and value system did not reflect reality, so I was PONDERING my orb. At 23 I've decided once and for all that monogameme is a sure way to wreck your life. 99% of a man's problems come from merely desiring women. Stop caring about having a bitch to fuck and you're free to picrel with a peaceful mind. There are too many negatives, risks and compromises involved in dealing with womemes, but simply jacking off and focusing on your interests has none of those. Women just can't compete with being alone.Also, I'm a schizoid so it's damn easy.
>>522068154Afghanistan has its problems but nothing as pathetic as this. Women are property and nothing more.
>>522067922romance is a sham invented by feminists in the 1800s and further wrapped in later feminist movementsit's complete bullshit that only favors women. none of you probably ever notice this, but women RARELY are actually romantic
>>522069487You are literally a walking stereotype. You can't address a single point he made because you physically cannot accept the fact the world isn't that nice anymore.
>>522068302Life is great if you're not a normgroid. Maybe it's good for normgroids too, but I assume you're one when you're complaining. I can't think of another time in history when I could be largely unemployed, yet literate with magical technology at my fingertips. You choose to make life about WOMYN and that makes it terrible. Can't you draw the logical conclusion that women make life miserable?
>>522069438Autism is more of an excuse. Most autistics seem to be self diagnosed or present themselves as being higher on the scale as an excuse for their lack of social skills. I’m a loner (married) by choice. I get enough social interaction at work and with the wife and don’t actually care to have friends in my free time. To an outside observer, they could conclude I was probably somewhat autistic in my social preferences. To be honest, I’m just too lazy to maintain friendships.
bro fell for the boomer discord sex isn't real sex psyop
>>522070097>I’m a loner (married) by choice.kekI bet you're also celibate (married) by choice.
>>522068769>>522069468I think you're right, but I choose technology over womyn. Sorry not sorry.
>>522067922it means the next step for feminism is arranged marriages and sexual history will be back on the table
>>522069672>Stop caring about having a bitch to fuckI wish it was that easy...
>>522070410I'll admit it wasn't easy for me either, so I ploughed through over 60 whores. Now it's easy. Shit's overrated and overpriced. A bitch isn't worth shit.
>>522070026Being normie doesn’t mean your life revolves around women. Hell, even being married with two daughters, my life doesn’t revolve around women. Life revolves around me. It doesn’t do it by my choice, life just happens. Great if you’re content alone but I get the feeling you aren’t; that’s it’s more of a cope on your part. Easy to avoid the things that aren’t part of your life.It’s not really healthy for you.
The Jaffe Memo was sent from Frederick S. Jaffe, vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, to Bernard Berelson, head of the Population Council in 1969. The memo discussed a multitude of ways that they could promote depopulation, sterilization and anti-natalist policies within America. They discussed everything from forced abortions, promoting women in education and employment, promoting homosexuality, putting sterilants in the water supply and discouraging home ownership. Both Planned Parenthood and the Population Council were essentially created and continue to be funded by the Rockefeller family through their "philanthropic" organizations such as the Rockefeller Foundation.https://archive.org/details/fredericks_jaffe_memorandum_to_bernard_berelson/1969.03.11%20-%20Frederick%20S.%20Jaffe%20-%20Memorandum%20%20to%20%20Bernard%20%20Berelson%20%28Jaffe-Memo%29/page/nundefined/mode/1up“Frederick Jaffe founded what would become the Guttmacher Institute in 1968, after having served as a Planned Parenthood Director and Vice President. Jaffe authored the now infamous memo bearing his name to Population Council President Bernard Berelson, who sought “necessary and useful activities relevant to formation of population policy.” The Jaffe memo includes a table of proposals to curb population growth including paid sterilization, promotion of homosexuality, paid abortion, and adding “fertility control agents” to the water supply. Jaffe names several sources for the proposals, including physicist William Shockley.”https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-1171/116542/20190920143641893_18-1171%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20ISSUES4LIFE%20Foundation.pdf
>>522070520>copeAlways the one "argument" I can count on having to deal with. You can believe whatever you want, but I actively ignore/reject womyn and always have (although I did it for different reasons in the past). I know who has to wake up for work every day (although his life doesn't revolve around women), and who doesn't. Vast majority of your time is spent affording your family life, while vast majority of my time is spent however I please.
“There is no strong instinctive desire for multitudinous offspring, as such, in the feminine make-up. The reproductive impulses operate indirectly. Nature ensures a pressure of population through passions and instincts that, given sufficient knowledge, intelligence, and freedom on the part of women, can be satisfactorily gratified and tranquillized, if need be, without the production of numerous children. Very slight adjustments in social and economic arrangements will, in a world of clear available knowledge and straightforward practice in these matters, supply sufficient inducement or discouragement to affect the general birth rate or the birth rate of specific types as the directive sense of the community may consider desirable. So long as the majority of human beings are begotten involuntarily in lust and ignorance so long does man remain like any other animal under the moulding pressure of competition for subsistence. Social and political processes change entirely in their character when we recognize the possibility and practicability of this fundamental revolution in human biology.” - H.G. Wells, The Open ConspiracyThe Open Conspiracy by H.G. Wells:https://archive.org/details/the-open-conspiracy-h.-g.-wells
>>522070174Currently not celibate by choice. But then again, we’re in our 60’s. I could cheat if I wanted to. Not really seeing the point of violating the trust of one’s spouse and family. I wouldn’t even need to pay. Just not how I roll.
>>522067922Relationships are a function of time and proximitywith what time does the modern young goyim spend to meet other young goyim, they are both too busy goy-slaving, and even if they have time, what spaces will they even share to meet?
>>522069672I can't believe we are considered old these days.
>>522067922Youll see these bitches cry about "muh paycheck to paycheck" "cost of living" "housing" and other financial excuses but the reality is that modern life is too convenient, entertaining and family gets on the way of that fun "me time". The fucking third world is having more kids because guess what, they have nothing better to do.
>>522070779Damn, we got a grampa over here.>>522070845We uncpilled now.
>>522070370At least you’re honest about it. Not sure the rationale behind this choice. Can you blame young women for loving on cats and tatts and dying their hair blue in the absence of young males like yourself?
>>522070952My first post summarizes my decision. Initially, I was simply too selective and naturally introverted (easily on the schizoid spectrum). This afforded me time to think everything through. Let's just say that the smarter you are, the more likely you are to stay alone.
>>522070779I didn't realize dinosaurs roamed these plains.
>>522069487>happily marriedHow happily? How much does it cost you to fuck her once?
Gen Z girls think a 24 year old man hitting on a 19 year old college girl is pedophilia. it's unironically over.
>>522070924Weren’t you afforded “me time” for the first 18 years of your life? I can’t imagine playing the latest version of what the fuck ever trumps having a son or daughter fall asleep in your arms thinking you’re their #1 hero. Time with your family is incredibly short. The kids grow up, they got other shit to do and you find yourself with a lot of “me time”. Maybe too much.
>>522070948Not yet. We’ll cross that bridge when we stumble upon it.
>>522070845I'm 6 years older and I still think you're an idiot, if that helps.
>>522067922>open he news>"rising sense of anti-feminism in the youth!">whole article talks about how this is a huge issue and they all need some mandatory feminism trainings>zero mention that feminism is just government-sanctioned misandry at this pointmen simply see no point in interacting with women who treat them like shit anymore.the point of a relationship is to have someone who you know has your back. someone you can feel secure around and who treats you well.if that's no longer the case, why would you go for one? why would you invite someone who acts like an enemy of yours into the most private parts of your life?
>>522067922Women are fucking animal monsters. Film at 11.
>>522071457Thanks, it does.
>>522069438>which are admittedly a minority percentage of casesFuck you.
>>522068769>caused by jewsjump off a cliff for me will ya?
>>522067922It is difficult to understate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.
>>522071081Smart often means over thinking things. But it can mean missing out because you want to minimize the risk.Unfortunately, smart can mean over exaggerating the risk resulting in a fight or flight response rather than simply just going with it and seeing how things turn out.
>>522071519chicks are banging dogs and middle school dudes to avoid being with someone in their looks category.
>>522067922Oh noes! Is your dogshit society in trouble? That's terrible.
>>522071705So overdramatic lol.
>>522067922Romance = man blowing his bank account on a woman who fucks other men
>>522067922This is the end result of SSRIs, it destroys the libido and makes people not fall in love. Everybody is taking this shit now.We are just numbing ourselves to the point of sterelization instead of dealing with our problems.
>>522071693And to what end? You actually think Jews are your problem? If all the Jews were disappeared, you’d still have to confront the reality that you might be the fucking problem. Yep.
>>522071790There is no such thing as "overthinking". If your mind is sound and you accurately identify pros and cons of each decision (and nearly everything in life is a compromise), you can make an informed and even strategic decision. It's easy to call that "overthinking" when you're overworked and over-socialized to the point where you don't have any time for deeper thought. My condolences, but also thank you for your service. The world would come to a grinding halt without you worker bees.
>>522067922This is a good thing, anon. Population collapse can't come soon enough.
>>522072072Sounds like about 25lbs of cope in a 10lb bag. If that is all it takes for you to carry on without wasting valuable resources dealing with your body or you shooting up a public place, I would also like to thank you for your service. At least you’re honest about it.
>>522067922>42% of Zoomers have been diagnosed with a mental health condition and over 60% of Zoomers are currently using prescription medication to help manage their mental health. Meanwhile, 37% of women ages 18 to 25 reported misusing stimulants such as Adderall and Ritalin in the past year, which was more than any other age group. For men in the same age range, the reported misuse rate was 36.1%.Good times!
Everyone just needs to chill. Life is good
>>522071956Seriously doubt it as not an overwhelming of the population is on SSRI’s. People can fall in love over the stupidest shit: a little time together, shared experience and likes, a cute freckled nose, or a dumb political comment. Love isn’t something one should over consider because it has its risks. But doesn’t everything?
>>522072883Chill is good, the rest is questionable at best. Deal with the stuff within your power to handle, let the rest sort itself out and deal then.
As a 32 years old kissless virgin, it is already way too over for me and probably was even back when I was a teenager given that I've always been an asocial sperg. At this point I am trying to just come to terms with the reality that I will never have a family of my own. It is hard to give a fuck about the future when you know you'll never have kids.
>>522072109Say you're broke without saying you're broke. Worthless ass nigga.
>>522072879You realize how easy it is to be diagnosed “abnormal”? As a teacher my daughter isn’t seeing the same numbers in the classroom. People are currently obsessed over their mental health right now. It’s a fad as they try to understand the complexity of civilization right now. It’s cope for the inability to accept the current reality they exist in. Every generation goes through it.
>>522073305Iktf. I watch anime and play visual novels to cope. Never desired a relationship irl (I think? Unless I'm just scared)t. level 25 apprentice
>>522073313I’m going to say that there are populations out there with unchecked growth that rely on emigration for their survival.
>>522067922Romance isn't something you say "Yes" or "No" to. It's something you experience or you don't.
>>522073305Yeah pretty much. Looking back I can see I fell through the cracks and it didn't have to be this way, but it is and it's too late to fix now. I'm trying to find something else to work for, if I can't I'll probably just rope as soon as I get out of debt and can leave some money for a funeral.
>>522072735no uFinally retired? Now we can finally suffer your terrible boomer opinions 24/7. Hopefully nap time will keep you out of here for most of the day.
>>522073748Been there thru highschool. My thing was reading books. Horror and alternate history- Follet and King. I didn’t have the corners, nooks, and crannies to hide in when being alone or reading drove me insane with boredom. No internet, gaming systems, subscription services to cable. Finally forced out of the house and found people to be accessible. You have a million alternatives, wasn’t the lot back then.
>>522074106Nope. Still working. You’re welcome to ignore me and my boomer opinions. I won’t miss you knee jerk comments.
>>522067922 Gen Z men are the first generation to realize true female nature in relevant numbers, since they grew up with the internet being available to everyone. Boomers and Gen X (and even most Millennials) held this naive view - driven by feminist propaganda - that women were more innocent and "empathic" than men. Since Gen Z is born in the height of "female empowerment" so many men have seen how sociopathic and narcissistic women actually are. They've realized that women aren't kind, fair or loving. They're celebrators of sadistic psychological violence and thuggery, narcissistic whores and vindictive cunts. It's a good thing that more and more men are checking out and we need to promote this lifestyle for men.
>>522074961You’re certainly the first generation to come to a consensus as to why you suck at basic social skills. Not that you got it right but at least you agree.Wouldn’t want to consider that you might actually be the reasons women hate you so much. Nope. Definitely their fault.Fuck, if I were single I’d be a kid in a candy shop right now.
>>522074961link for book?
>>522074961We need to promote this lifestyle in countries that rely on exporting their population for survival. If you’re European, American, or any industrialized nation, you’ll need to figure out how socialization works and how you can keep your country’s population stable. Checking out because you missed important social markers in favor of gaming, porn, and streaming media doesn’t mean it’s over for you.
>>522075697 >https://www.amazon.com/Great-Feminization-drivers-modern-social-ebook/dp/B09Z7MWJ7R That completely unknown author has laid out his thesis during the past 15 years, without anyone noticing. Here is a good summary: >https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-great-feminization/ Once you realize you cannot unsee it: the dark matter behind this mysterious and inevitable trend towards toxic liberalism (what Curtis Yarvin called "the Cthulhu", as even he was blind to the root cause), that we see in every western country since at least WWII - it is not the Jews, not capitalism, open border, lenient punishment for criminals, BLM, LGBT, those are all just symptoms of a root cause - women. It's women, as they have silently captured almost every relevant position of cultural and institutional power during the past 100 years and they are now restructuring society, so it fits their female ways of reasoning.
>>522076481Feminists were and are tools used by financial elites who want to socially engineer Western countries and ultimately the entire world into deracinated economic zones, ie. Jews. Enabling female degeneracy was a conscious choice. Do you really think these people could force the state to do things it truly didn't want to do?
>>522070097I don't mean literal clinical autism, but rather that normies' social behavior is moving closer to what autistics always have been.>>522071555I'm not saying its not an issue. A 5% chance to be confronted by the police for asking someone out is still an abysmal risk/reward ratio. However, the odds of everyone around you thinking you're a piece of shit for daring to try is more like 90%, and I think this is a bigger factor as to why people don't initiate anymore.
>>522076201>Checking out because you missed important social markers in favor of gaming, porn, and streaming media doesn’t mean it’s over for you.Yes it does. If you miss the important socialization stages that most people in the past underwent in their teens, the more you age out of that period, the longer you remain alone, the less likely it is for you to ever find anyone. Especially if you are a guy. Most chicks can slut it up easy and still find some beta provider even if their life is otherwise a complete mess but just being a virgin past the age of 25 for a guy is basically poison to your prospects of reproduction regardless of your other qualities/faults.
>>522067922based
>>522067922>Vulnerability is a pre-requisite to successful relationships>Zoomers think sincerity in any form is gay
>>522073132>not an overwhelming of the population is on SSRI’sYou'd be surprised. If you expand the scope to all psychiatric drugs, and then consider only gen-z and millennials, the number shoots up to like 25%. This is more than enough to completely rape the social atmosphere of a society.>>522074961I don't think this is it. Sure, plenty of gen-z hates women, but they'd absolutely embrace a GF the moment they were shown the least bit of love. Women are absolutely the ones choosing to have society grind to a halt.>>522076827>Feminists were and are tools used by financial elitesPretty much. It started as a cigarette ad in the 1920's, and these days everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to use it to sell their own shit.>>522075500If you were young and single, you'd be ostracized for not knowing the rules of the game, namely "don't talk to anyone".
>>522067922Women have spent the last 15 years spamming social media with ew romantic guys give me the hick ew and men gave upThe truth is that women just want to be raped. They don't care about anything else. Their whole lives are circus shows. The existence of the woman revolves entirely around her primal desire to be sexually subjugated by a large aggressive men.
>>522067922I posted this in another thread about this but I'm gen z and l can speak from my experience. I don't really want sex right now, l've matched with girls on every type of dating app. Most girls aren't even whores (at least in my area it seems) they're just boring or just kind of dumb, not even in a bad way it's justthat girls seem kind of clueless and childish. I matched with a girl recently that was pretty and nice but as I was talking to her I just felt this overwhelming feeling that I'm wasting my time. I'm 23 l have yet to do what I want to do creatively speaking and I have goal I want to complete and a girl in which I would have to help and care for doesn't seem like something I want right now especially since I don't have all the money, time, effort to blow on someone that I'm talking to for what? Sex, something l've already had before and thought was meh, the first time I had sex the girl came before I did.I think a lot of older guys in these threads that missed out on love/ don’t have crazy game get to autisticly railroaded by online ideologies around women, they think they are way smarter/calculated than they actually are, in reality a lot of them are just kinda dumb. Most guys I know who don’t have girlfriends isn’t because “we don’t have usury any more or divorce rape is to common!” The average ziglet doesn’t even know or care about shit like “ursury” I think a lot of male loneliness is just due to social isolation and the fear of embarrassment. None can afford to be ignorant or innocent anymore. When every interaction is slave or master, I don’t expect people to want to interact much.
>>522077949Sorry I meant dowry not ursury
>>522077949>I think a lot of male loneliness is just due to social isolationYes. There are increasingly few means to just be around other young people. It's not that young people are choosing to sit home and scroll, but that any alternatives are rapidly being taken away.>and the fear of embarrassmentwhich is very warranted. We live in an age of conformity far stricter than the 50's or victorian england. People can and will toss aside anyone perceived as "weird" in even the smallest of ways, and they will be applauded by their peers for doing so.
>>522078214Its okay you're a fucking retard
>>522078450>We live in an age of conformity far stricter than the 50's or victorian england.Agreed I think one of the bigger issues is that everyone feels as if they are playing a character or that they have to play a character to fit it. When the facade eventually slips the response from others isn’t compassion or indifference as it may have been before its justification to just immediately throw the person to the fire, despite the fact that the ones starting the fire are also play a character. You see it in genZ content almost all of it is shit slop like “THIS MINECRAFT YOUTUBER SAID WHAT ON STREAM!!” this just results in an entire generation of people who view life like their personal Sims game.>>522078758I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class…
>>522079523Its okay lil bro just keep on rockin
>>522070952Women aren't lacking males that's for sure.
>>522069866>actually romanticWhat does that mean?
>>522068154> A country that elevates women at the expense of men combined with women who will only date upwards is a disasterYeah but it was ultimately us as men who let this shit happen. Even with the rise of the redpill/looksmax movements, it’s still just reinforces the matriarchy. They like to talk about how terrible women are and how they’re “totally against the system bro!” But what have they done to meaningfully fight back against the system? Nothing but concessions and ladder kicking. Every single one of these guys (Andrew Tate, Fresh & Fit, K. Shami, etc) all operate under the paradigm that your self worth is contingent on how much women love you. They say women are shallow materialistic whores, but their advice just consists of fulfilling those shallow materialistic standards they hold. You’ll never find these grifters preaching >self acceptance>not tying your self worth to what women thinkBecause it hurts their bottom line. They need to sell the lie that the short and lonely r9k user can “make it too!” if they just bought their supplements, buy into the course, get expensive surgery and go on TRT, and spread the disease further. For every one success story you hear from them, there 100 failed ones. If one of these looksmax redpill people ever lost their money and looks, what are they left with? Nothing. Their woman will leave them the first chance they get because that’s the type they attracted. They know women are shallow and materialistic beings incapable of love, so why concede? Because it’s a system that benefits matriarchs, NOT you. They need you more than you need them, just as women need men more than men need them. Do you have any idea how much women’s egos and dating sites revenue would hurt if suddenly everyone other than Chad opted out? I’ll tell you this much, there are lot more women who want relationships than there are Chads who are willing to settle with Becky.
>>522070779>Currently not celibate by choiceAn old incel?
>>522081322>Yeah but it was ultimately us as men who let this shit happen.Over the past decade, men got shit on mercilessly and were told that they were no longer needed and to go away, so that's what they did. If they are no longer needed, they don't need to contribute. If they are no longer wanted nearby, they walked away.The men did as the society demanded of them, it's just that the demands were stupid and are very self-destructive. Sorry, try again next roll, try rolling 18 or above to get the best chances to motivate your worker bees.
>>522069866Mooooom, new incel cope just dropped, come laugh at the retard
>>522070026Old 4chan we were outsiders, but not losers.Now its full of normies. Incels arent outsiders, they are failed normies who cant pass the tutorial on easyWe are not the same, gtfo to r9k
