ITT: We discuss Christianity, the Bible, and all things directly relating to it. Yes, Christianity is political, and yes, loving God is politically incorrect.I'll kick this thread off with something I recently learned that's implied in a quote from the gospel according to Mark 11:15-17: On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it 'a den of robbers'."The interesting part is how Jesus mentioned "all nations" as he was causing a ruckus among the merchants in the temple. Some historical context here, is that Jesus was overturning tables and releasing the sacrificial animals for sale in the Gentiles' court, and not the Israelites' court. Jesus, when He did those things, did so in solidarity with the Gentiles, people whom God had intended to be known to as He had with the Israelites, for it has always been in God's plan to save all of humanity and to bring them back into the Garden beside Him, and this includes the Gentiles.
>>522069424>(John 5:28, 29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.>(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.>(John 5:29) and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.The Bible teaches that after the end of the world there will bet two resurrections: One of the righteous and one of unrighteous. One of faithful and one who committed vile things to be judged in the next system.The Bible does acknowledge individuals around the world who never had a chance to know God and Christ. That's where the second resurrection comes in up above. The unrighteous resurrection will be for bad people who acted out of ignorance, mental illness, isolation, social and political engineering, etc. This includes people from times and eras where God did not reveal himself to them. They will be brought back to life in the next system of Earth where no evil and no devil exist anymore. THEY will be judged under that system. If they can change they can stay, if they refuse they go back to eternal oblivion(SECOND DEATH.) Babies will be brought back to life here.
>>522069424>r it has always been in God's plan to save all of humanity and to bring them back into the Garden beside Him, and this includes the Gentiles.You will find that, no matter how good it sounds, the fruits of universalism are quite rotten.
>>522069424(Matthew 24:3) “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”>Jesus said that his presence would be signified with...(Matthew 24:7) “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.(Luke 21:11)...in one place after another pestilences...(Matthew 24:12) and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.>The earth would be ruined and polluted.“Bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18)>The message is officially spread of his coming and his Kingdom.“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matt. 24:14.>The Announcement of Peace and Security“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.>The Great Tribulation>ArmageddonWe are currently in the pangs of distress Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 which is part of the last days. We are not in the Great Tribulation. Where we are is in the moment right before they announce peace and security. They are going to announce a word wide call of Peace & Security in some way. Then the Great Tribulation then Armageddon.
Ok so Christianity isn't Jewish, it split off from Judaism when the Jew god changed his mind about being Jewish and decided to be open to all. Essentially, Yahweh (of the OT/Torah) had a covenant with Avrahim, to chew off the dicks of all 8 day old boys as an act of obedience, in return for not killing everyone. BUT, he started to feel bad after hearing a lot of sad prayers.SO, he decided to try out the human experience, and raped a baby avatar of himself in to the young Mir'yaam. While he was popping out, he shot up a star in to the night sky to ensure that kings from miles around would arrive with gold and perfumes, which he was really in to because he was a Jew and could water down the perfumes and re-sell them. When he was 8 days old, his step-dad Yusuf chewed off his foreskin, as an offering to Yahweh, which Yahweh, who was obviously now the baby Yeshua, expected to give him an entirely new perspective but actually, despite the pain, he saw how much Yusuf enjoyed it and so, it continued as tradition.Yahweh aka Yehova aka the baby Yeshua (God) continued to live a relatively normal Israeli human life, hanging out with 12 men in dresses and sandals, being caught with naked boys at night, harassing people about what they were doing wrong and why, unless they accepted him as a wonderful saviour and took on board his eternal love, he'd burn them forever in lakes of fire. At the young age of 33, he was tried for harassment and public nuisance by the Romans, and Gods avatar was sentenced to be stapled to two planks by a couple of swarthy Italians.Once his Meta VR Earth experience avatar Yeshua was dead, Yahweh let it rest for a couple of days in a cave, then brought it back up in to the clouds where he lives. And lo, he had a new covenent with man that was not so absurd as demanding Jewish foreskins:Just SOME foreskins and eternal worship of a loving God, or be punished and stung and slashed and scythed and burned for all time. And praise Israel!
>>522069836>If they can change they can stay, if they refuse they go back to eternal oblivionI see this too.If a pardon is offered, it would have to be officially accepted or rejected in court at some point.Last minute reprieves are kinda what Jesus is known for from the beginning, but freewill will not be violated.
A lot of JW doctrine is based on weird translations of the Bible using individual manuscripts from Alexandria, condemned by the Fathers for being a hotbed of syncretism. None of these individual manuscripts agree with each other let alone with other received texts. But it was allowed by the Zondervan company, a Jewish "bible" company, to use these manuscripts as the basis for a wide array of changes to the Scripture, all of which always, without any exception, demote Christ.
>>522070009The exact definition of 'tribulation' is an important point no one seems to want to clarify.It means something different to each eschatological camp.It makes discussion impossible.
It's incredible to me that biblical literalists still exist. The resurgence of flat earthers is more believable. You are the enemy of the white race and all mankind.
>>522070166>it split off from JudaismWRONG.There was no Judaism until AFTER Christianity.The kikes claim lineage from Abraham, but deny the faith of Abraham.They invented the Talmud, Mishnas, Zohar, etc. AFTER Christ was crucified and after the temple was destroyed.It was the response to the absolute failure of all their bullshit, but in typical kike fashion, they refuse to repent and double down.
call me a streetshitter, but i like a good tabernacle
>>522070434Jew-coded post.
>>522070434Let's break this down, race traitor.>It's incredible to me that biblical literalists still exist. A pagan larping faggot denies that God actually means what He said.Real shocker there.>The resurgence of flat earthers is more believable. The literal reading of the Word LITERALLY undoes the core foundation of Scientism.PLANTS, not planets, were made BEFORE the sun, moon, and stars were placed in the firmament (note note space-a-ment).This shows that the big bang, evolution, and all things space work directly to undermine faith in the LITERAL Word of God, in the very first chapter of the very first book.Satan chose this strategy because if you can undermine faith in the beginning, you can undermine faith in all that follows.
>>522070008What do you mean by universalism, and why do you think I'm following it?>>522070166>it split off from JudaismIt's the other way around. Judaism, or Rabbinical Judaism split off from the Hebrew tradition due to their rejection of Jesus Christ as the promised Messiah whom they didn't see. They expected a conquering king who would destroy the Romans and secure the world for them, and not someone they regarded as a pauper that only those lower in the pecking order saw as He truly was.Christianity is the proper continuation of the Hebrews who have received their promised Messiah and are spreading the gospel (good news) throughout the world so that the one true God could be known to all and that He could also know Himself to save them.I'm not getting into the rest of your post here due to character limits, but what was said here isn't the way and will mislead them from the way, the truth, and the life.
>>522070009"THERE WILL BE BAD THINGS! WORSHIP ME! " - Rabbi JesusJesus is not the son of god, assuming he even existed.Jesus is not the messiah, or a prophet. Reject Jesus. The bible is a book of endless lies.
>>522070434The one who is to condemn "biblical literalists" or whatever they are called if they are to be condemned is God. It is not up to us to do the condemning. The question is, how do you be there for biblical literalists so that they better know God?
>>522070289The Greek word thliʹpsis, usually rendered “tribulation,” basically means distress, affliction, or suffering resulting from the pressures of circumstances. It is used with reference to the affliction associated with childbirth (Joh 16:21), persecution (Mt 24:9; Ac 11:19; 20:23; 2Co 1:8; Heb 10:33; Re 1:9), imprisonment (Re 2:10), poverty and other adversities common to orphans and widows (Jas 1:27), famine (Ac 7:11), and punishment for wrongdoing (Ro 2:9; Re 2:22). When answering the question of his disciples concerning the sign of his presence and the conclusion of the system of things, Jesus mentioned a “great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.” (Mt 24:3, 21) As a comparison of Matthew 24:15-22 with Luke 21:20-24 reveals, this had initial reference to a tribulation to come upon Jerusalem. The fulfillment came in 70 C.E., when the city was besieged by the Roman armies under General Titus. This resulted in severe famine conditions and much loss of life. The Jewish historian Josephus relates that 1,100,000 Jews died or were killed, whereas 97,000 survived and were taken into captivity. The temple was completely destroyed. So the Great Tribulation was foreshadowed by the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. This is not Armageddon but another disaster before Armageddon. Pic related
>>522070757>You are the enemy of the white race and all mankind.You betray the White race with false gods given to us by our shitskin and kike enemies. WE are the sons of Jacob, cast off for our forefathers' betrayal of God.We no longer hold the blessings of a people in right relationship with God, but we are still the blood descendants of Jacob.>>522070774>What do you mean by universalism, and why do you think I'm following it?Universal salvation, always accompanied by universal brotherhood of man.The American Civil War was CAUSED by yankee unitarians who pushed the building of God's kingdom of multi-ethnic utpoia on earth.The evil White Christian was what stood in their way.Jews on both sides profited greatly by the blood shed by White men.
>>522070969I disagree. Jesus accomplished all the signs of what the promised Messiah to come would be and do. Isaiah 53 is an especially strong text that supports Jesus Christ being the promised Messiah.
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>>522071079Yes, but you assume that what is spoken of the tribulation ONLY refers to the Great Tribulation, a time period never defined in scripture and never agreed upon by Christians.
>>522070969>tips fedora
>>522071151The EXACT identity of Israel is crucial.Those who strive to steal our present and our future have already stolen our past. WE are who they claim to be. They have stolen our history, our lands, even our ancestors. On top of that, they have the audacity to label us Amalek. They trade their own position for ours. They seek revenge for what Jacob did to Esau. They think if they wear the skin of dead Israelites that God will recognize them as His true people. They act out their hatred of God for which God hates them. Then, they blame you and tell you it's God's fault. Our kin have set their seal to testify that WE are of Israelite descent in the Declaration of Arbroath.Who am I to believe, my family though long dead, or those who seek to erase my family? Am I to swear allegiance to a false race and a false god just because others refuse to hear the truth of who they are? Our people were the Scythians. Those same Scythians were renamed by the Romans as Germans, the “true” people. We will not find the roots of our race in 20th century politics. We must go back far further. We must be willing to confront lies that are over 2700 years old. The choice between religion and race is a false one, unless you choose a false history and a false god, as your (((enemies))) would prefer. True history and the true God need not be separated. Many hate the Bible, but it is the story of OUR family. It is you who prevent your people from being whole. You have to let go of the lies you love. It's time for the family reunion.https://www.youtube.com/@truthinhistory@UncoveredBiblicalHistory@TruthVids@americaspromiseministries2@YairDavidiyhttps://www.britam.org/https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiA6kuKpn0D02ZxrOPIOQB0-Gs5VnYlMj&si=DwbNhr-cs--XU00qhttps://www.artisanpublishers.com/books-capt-raymondall-work-c-932_28.htmlhttps://kinsmanredeemer.com/https://britishisrael.co.uk/https://overcomebabylon.com/statement-of-faith
>>522069424itt: miggers ignore the fact yahweh was created by El Elyon (god almighty) as the lesser deity of the israelites nothing will ever improve as long as the god of your enemy is revered
Fun fact:The Knights Templar were a Catholic order and all the History Channel legends about them are false and were made up in the 18th and 19th century to create fancy lore for modern occult clubs.True things:>they were Catholics>created to defend pilgrims on the roads to the Holy land>criminals and poor people joined as it promised an indulgence of sorts>many took vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience, ...and many broke those vows>took part in the major crusades along with other orders>had a base near the temple mount and were named for it >created the first form of financial institutions we know today>became a powerful force in all the known world due to banking strategies>sought influence in European countries that sometimes rivaled the local monarchs>put on trial for financial crimes by the King of France>some were accused of heresy and sodomy, but it was never fully proven>leadership in France was found guilty and burned at the stake>order was disbanded>rest of the men, property, and finances were moved over to Hospitaller order>were a celebrated and interesting order with good aestheticsMaybe/ probably things:>found some interesting artifacts and relics and sent them to Rome>had some rituals that seemed spooky to prepare them for the blasphemous things they'd face upon being capturedFalse things:>were a religion of their own with non-Christian beliefs>did magic and/or other non-Christian things>were all burned and/or all persecuted to the ends of the Earth>fled into shadows never to be seen again>survive to this day as occult groupsSo when you hear someone snicker at you for being a Christian and liking crusaders as if you are naïve and don't realize they are the force behind the occultism today, remember there is someone higher than them snickering at them for believing the marketing lore designed to draw them into occultism.
>>522071151I don't disagree with the atrocities of war that the ones who call themselves Jews have instigated on those who aren't. But I do disagree with the interpretation of universal salvation in the post.God promised to Abraham that he'd be the father to all the nations, and not just to Israel. That means, all the nations, and not all the nations smelted into a homogenous chunk. God created us all and made us all in His image, it's true, but God also created the nations and, despite us being different nations, God still sees the people in those different nations as His. It's just that we, as people, cannot mix up those nations and nor should be, because working with nations like that is purely in God's domain. The yoking of nations together by the works of man never goes well.How did the quote go? Love your neighbor, but don't tear down your fence.
>>522071398Zionism is the greatest heresy of our day.Those who fit the literal definition of ANTICHRIST given by John have been set on a pedestal and worshiped as the children of God, even when Christ Himself calls them children of Satan.[1Jo 2:18, 22 KJV] 18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. ... 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.[1Jo 4:3 KJV] 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.[2Jo 1:7 KJV] 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
>>522071443By revering another other than God is to revere an idol. Only God is the true God and only He is worthy of worship.
>>522071583>Love your neighbor, but don't tear down your fence.Again, I point you to the fruits of universalism.That is ALWAYS the outcome.Look around you.The evidence is the destruction of teh country we live in.
>>522071730Christians, especially non-white Christians, we ask that you not support those who call themselves Jews, but are not, but do lie, in their Loxist genocide of the sons of Jacob. We have long been scattered among the gentiles. We too were made gentiles for our unbelief and disloyalty to God. When the Good News of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, his Son, was brought to us, we brought it to the rest of the world. Now, many strong Christians of many peoples exist. Except, the sons of Jacob have allowed the flame to dim to a flicker. We have turned again from God on the whole, back to our pride and the lies of Satan. We have defiled all that once was holy. We deserve nothing from you. As you did not deserve the salvation offered by the Lord Jesus Christ, we do not deserve your prayers or your voice of support. We can but ask. We hope that you, as He, will hear the call and help us to turn from all that we have put in the place of God back to Him. Our blood enemies have made this very difficult. They have engineered our entire civilization to lead men to wallow in sin, to forget the True and Living God. They have turned your people into a weapon against us, and us a weapon against you. We either seek to eliminate the concept of race or to have one come out as lord and master of the others, without thought or care of God’s will for all peoples. We have all sinned as our fathers of old, when their tongues were divided in Babel. We have made a new god, the god of Science. We make machines to give us one language again, the cold 1’s and 0’s of the silicon trap we find ourselves in. As Satan’s son have turned us against one another as weapons for his agenda, may the Lord Jesus Christ turn our hearts toward one another that we may be made one weapon for Him to wield in the last days of this great war that has raged between Truth and lies for lo these many millennia. There is no salvation but in Christ Jesus.
>>522069424I am a Christian (Christ is king of kings and Yahweh Fkn ricks and also fuck foreskins) but how come every big Christian account on twitter is African or Jewish??? Are we actually just a tool for subversion and just golem??? Somebody please explain
>>522071784Even today, White Christianity cowers behind a political facade while those who have been ADOPTED into the family put us to shame.https://wisewolfmedia.substack.com/p/nigerian-christians-need-help
>>522071821>Somebody please explainWhitey dropped the ball.
>>522070720>>522070757Heeb wordcels, slaves to concepts from a people who were scorned by all mankind after they took up the cause of monotheism sometime after the 6th century. Can't even make up your minds if I'm a jew or a pagan. And I'm neither, I'm Christian, always have been. I'm just not retarded. >>522071025Fair enough but I wish they would just get over their cringe phase of not being able to deal with reality. Look at this retard haranguing against science while he uses a computer to post 2000+ year old ethnic LARP slop, that is not even his own. But you're right. We should be able to argue an alternative to them or we're just repeating Dawkins tier failure.
>>522071920>I'm ChristianYou are no Christian.Birth and baptism are mere ritual.Your heart is uncircumcised.A Christian is one who TRUSTS in Jesus Christ.Jesus is that Word you refuse to trust...literally.
>>522071730And I'm saying we as nations cannot be yoked together. Also, I think you need to dig deeper than ideas to find the root of the problem. It's not "universalism" or any other "ism", it's the thorns and thistles that come up from our works as a result of Adam and Eve eating of the fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and their unrepentance of having done so when God confronted them about their nakedness. It is the sin; missing the mark that we as humans do that is very intrinsic to our being. This is why we need God to have mercy on us. This is why we need Jesus Christ, because He is the only one to have never sinned, and He is the only one who can take our sins upon Himself.In other words, nothing bears good fruit except for the Tree of Life, the True Vine; Jesus Christ.
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>>522071265>Matthew 24:21for then there will be great tribulation+ such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.+>Mark 13:19 for those days will be days of a tribulation+ such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation that God created until that time,* and will not occur again.>Revelation 7:14-So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation,+ and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
>>522069424What was the nailed kike doing to a naked boy in a public garden?
>>522071821I'll bite.What exactly are you implying and getting at? Please spell it out because this looks like a Loaded Question. Take as many posts as you need.
>>522071265What other tribulation would it be>>522072259
>>522072123>Your heart is uncircumcisedThat you would even say such a thing lets me know you are a 90 IQ mouth breather who is not from a real Christian tradition. And if you do go to church it's in some former outlet store or ugly soulless building. Because that's just what wordcels do in the world. I never said a bad thing about Christ and wouldn't. Only this heeb LARP you cling to.
>>522071920We are called upon to love and forgive one-another, even our enemies and those who irritate us. Jesus warned that if we don't do those things, we won't be forgiven of our transgressions either. It's a radical thing, but the reward is well worth it, since in the next world there won't be sin so there won't be those kinds of problems that come from others tearing one-another down.Anyways, my default is to engage the Biblical Literalists, preferably in person. Really learn why they believe what they do, and they'll open up when or if they feel comfortable. Then the next question is, what do we take literally and what do we take as a spiritual thing? The whole of the Bible was written and organized as a literary epic, and some details are embellished (the Book of Joshua has some such as when some foes were 'utterly destroyed' and such). The creation of the Above & Below (Heavens & Earth), Noah's Ark, the Israelites going through the Red Sea, the Israelites crossing the Jordan, and even in a more comical way the Prophet Jonah are all forms of Baptism just like when Jesus was Baptised, though with Jesus it was also just like how God created Man.The Bible is full of things like that, and it's good to know and understand the big picture as much as the minutae.
>>522069424It would go a long way if people made an effort to articulate what they understand by "God" in neutral and intuitively accessible language, before fighting over its existence. Pick any number of observant members of any religion, ask them in the presence of another and they'll regurgitate the official canon of that religion. Ask them individually and probe their conception of "God" and you'll find that, if it wasn't for their religon's limitation of language, you'd probably agree with most of it.It's in these very personal encounters that most "religious" people re-discover their faith as they understand that "God" as the incomprehensible "All" is virtually irreconcilable with the "God" of institutionalized, canonized, self-serving and self-insertion riddled fanfiction of usurious "clergy" -- that religion is ultimately a tool that can be used for good and bad alike.Religion ultimately isn't to be conflated with faith -- the very worst of the former merely commodifies the latter, captures it in brand names and slogans. Imagine you were only able to communicate in terms of commericals and advertisment -- what a miserable life that'd be, whew.Consider "God" in the likeness to the word. Just like a word spoken out loud one to many times, that eludes your cognition and ability to articulate, "God" as the incomprehensible -- as an image -- loses its resolution the more you think of it in discrete terms: the more you strongly interprete it in your favor or the misfortune of someone else. It's as if you're creeping up to an infinitely large print, until you're standing infront of disjointed pixels.(cont.)
>>522073531Furthermore, "God" as a language -- your language, the sum total of your experience -- you may be able transcribe, but can never hope to adequately translate. Just like any other language: conceptions in one language have no equal in others. Like the 52ish(?) conceptions of love in Sanskrit, that can't be captured in the half a dozen of other languages. A simple, self-evident argument that's hardly worth a single sentence in one language, may force you into paraphrased litanies that invite interpretation devoid of reason and merit.If you will, "religious" people are like "ghetto youth" genuinely failed by the education systems and their parents: their vocubularly is very narrow, very limited and limiting. If you wanted to teach them, to pick them up where they've been abandoned and walk them towards a meaningful life (= teach them skills), you'd waste your time -- and their time -- if you instantly blasted them with sophisticated verbiage, telling them that everything they are doing is wrong, but, just like the system you're trying to pull them out off, never why. For anyone else, well -- you know it yourself: While you understand the English language and can apply the most literal by-the-book reading if you so fancy, you may also harbor a certain bias and think in terms of connotations (i.e.: choice of words) first and universal function (i.e.: ideas) second -- if at all.(cont)
>>522073574What is "God"? Everyone's whinging on about it, but no one explains what they mean by it. Everyone's passionately arguing about it, pretending to read each other's minds. What is "God" to you? Do you subscribe to abrahamic "monotheism"? Indoeuropean heno/pantheism? Do you believe it to be an entity, a neutral "Common Denominator" or "creative, generative principle"? Is that "God" of yours omnipotent, omniscient and so on? Is it subject to any rules? Is it creator or steward? Is it strictly infallible or can it choose to make mistakes? Does it have free will and agency? Is its perspective on and conceptions of the seperation between it and everything else anything like yours? Is it in comprehensible or incomprehensible, but experiental and perceptible?What do you understand by "God", anon? I wish people made an effort to speak their mind and their language, not that of "clergy".Language is first and foremost enabling you to articulate questions -- not answers. There exist infinitely many questions to which plain language itself will never be able to provide any meaningful answers to. The singular most universal expression of faith is the question, not any particular answer.(cont.)
>>522073613I'd say there is a spectrum of comprehension, from lowest to greatest:>atheism ("Nothing". Unadultered "RNG". Plain, abstract language -- dissolution of experience and meaning.)>monotheism (One "God". "RNG" through the whims of a singular stand-in, an egregore created by few. Language as tool of tribal governance.)>polytheism (Many "Gods". Balance and natural/social order through benelovent egregores, manifested by many. Language as tool of civilizational curation.)>henotheism (All "Gods". Egregores as emanations of something greater. Language as a tool of intercultural mediation, rehabilitation and guidance.)>pantheism (All. The 'Common Denominator' or 'creative, generative principle'. Language as a tool of inquiry beyond the veil of human experience.)Think about the people who argue that the advent of microscopy disproved the concept of Aether. They've found a bajillion little critters and stopped their inquiry alltogether -- they didn't make any effort whatsoever to understand what animates "matter" afterwards. Now, there exist all these bajillion things you could device names for and describe, even on occassion ostensibly comprehend (read: take educated guesses), but none can individually bring you any closer to a conclusion.(cont.)
>>522072335The "boy" is actually an adult, and also was illustrative of the shame that the Disciples felt when Jesus was taken away. He could very well have been a literary device to emphasize the shame and nakedness of the disciples as they ran away, which harkens us back to the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve hid from God to hide their nakedness.Even Barabbas, a character in the gospels according to Matthew and Mark is questionable as a historical character, but still serves the spiritual side of what was going on. The name "Barabbas" means "Son of the Father". Apparently some earlier drafts of the gospel texts referred to Jesus as "Jesus Barabbas". In that example, which "Barabbas" did the people choose to spare? The humble Jesus Christ, or the rebellious Barabbas? They chose to spare the rebellious Barabbas because the people were looking for a rebel that would overthrow the Romans, and that blinded them to seeing the one condemned to die as being the one who would save from the forces of the world; Sin itself. This condemnation, however, lead to Jesus ultimately conquering death itself, the fruit of Sin. But still, the people intended evil with Jesus' crucifixion and death even though God ultimately made a greater good from it, and for that, God did not ignore their evil. The temple was destroyed in AD 70, and the Jews were scattered among the nations.
>>522073660How do all the things know how to interact with each other, to "be themselves" at the macro (e.g.: the "physical world"), and how do you know to interprete them at the micro (e.g.: your mind)? More importantly: what compels you to catalogue them, to experience them in the first place?Let's say you've found more building blocks and types of glue, particles and forces. Yes, let's say existence is nothing but electrical goo (an euphemism for all different flavors of "physicality" I cannot be bothered to list), then electrical goo is quintessentially parsing and describing itself through you -- and whatever you perceive as the "other". The "other" being the thing that allows you to be you, the thing(s) that allow the electrical goo to assume a unique perspective through you.If you managed to pad out your physicality to the point of being able to break down the sensation of wind on your skin down to the quantum-whatever, would you be any closer to understanding why you are experiencing it and why it blows your mind (for the first time, which would be a continuum if you didn't get "used to it")? Look at the black mirror right infront of you. It's a bajillion little lights, flickering on and off, conjuring up however many worlds you care to visit with it. The world around you, in turn, may be considered nothing but an infinite sea of eyes, blinking, darting around, shifting focus, conjuring up as many worlds as you care to acknowledge.Moreso, you are, too, nothing but an amalgamation of a bajillion little critters and motive forces -- cells, bacteria, metabolism, emotions -- ostensibly governed by a single mind. The world around you is, too, just an amalgamation of bajillion little critters and you're one of them, and so on.(cont.)
>>522073695It's fair to say, that experience is like crack for "God", whatever "God" may be. Without the backdrop of the "other" there's no relation, no difference. You could say that there are five laws.>Unity (= to be)>Duality (= to perceive difference; sentience)>Trinity (= to comprehend relation; cognition)>Attraction (= to seek experience; agency and free will)>Sacrifice (= to change perspective, yours and that of orhers; causality)The medium can only conjure up imagery, if it's being agitated. A string you don't pluck doesn't produce a sound -- "becoming one again" is comparable to sensory deprivation. Resonance is not a force, but a principle applicable to all mediating creation and destruction alike.Too much of something, even yourself, without the dampening of the "other", is just as bad as too much of that "other". Both eventually culminate in a resonance catastrope -- the true death: stagnation, the regression of experience to soulless information and finally commodification.(cont.)
>>522073777It is your faith -- not "faith" A, B or C derived from any checklist, flow- or bingochart, sermon, scripture or other human -- that mediates your life, its trajectory and quality. A good religion teaches you pecsisely to not take everything at absolute face value, verbatim or literally. It tries to approximate the incomprehensible to the best of its ability and admits (and accepts) its limitations. It hands you tools to refine your faith, not craft it. Even the worst of the worst can yield guidance, when you make an effort to control your own language.Take the Christian conceptions of "Heaven" and "Hell", at their core they constitute no more and no less than an archetypal conception: a kharmic system.For a Christian, still in the custody of "clergy" and its uninspired language, these may really be distant dimensions of eternal reward and punishment doled out by curiously-anthropomorhpic, clearly comprehensible arbiters of "faith".For an Atheist it may just be an archaic means of subjugation at best and a fairy tale at worst.Now for you, let me tip my fedora, too:>Your life is nothing but a series of deaths. Perceptual, conceptual, emotional, physical -- cellular, if you will.>Every series of events you may experience is nothing but a rollercoaster of afterlifes.>Your actions in your life, the conscious 'now', create the "Hell" or "Heaven" of your death, in the unconscious 'then'.Any kharmic system communicates fundamental, well... axioms, I guess, of difference and relation, choice and personal responsibility. Virtually all religions feature one or another iteration of it. The Asian religions can almost be read literally without compromise in this particular case -- "Judaism" too, to great extent.(cont.)
>>522073829Each and every single religion postulates a "place or state of being" in which you dissolve into the 'thing' you've been staring at the whole time: yourself. A point at which you do not need guidance anymore -- a point at which you become the guide.Yet, believing a human to be infallible is to say he that doesn't, shouldn't and cannot exist. It is to dismiss his hardship and his choices, his "divinity" -- to burden him with the errors of your ways and the responsibility to magically fix them (and you, in the process). It is to blame him for your (in)actions.>I need not lift a finger, someone else will, and if he fails the heruclean task of working change, in a world filled to brim with deaf and blind arbiters of "good" who stubbornly refuse to be mute, I'll curse him and wait for the next.Illustrated with a linguistic sleight of hand:>Moschaich The Messiah, the avatar and personification of wishes, dreams, hopes, wants and needs of a (single) people -- some ominous figure to be waited for. >MosaicA glorious whole composed of many different parts, unity through plurality -- some thing to be worked towards. (cont.)
>>522073881See, language is an incredible powerful tool -- more than that actually. Language isn't just a system of squiggles and noises. It should be understood as an organism. It shapes your mind as much as your body -- any thought conceived of in that language, any word uttered in that language. From the contractions of your body necessary to articulate and accentuate through intonation and cadence and so on, to the concepts and principles unique to any one language.Bad language (e.g.: propaganda and dogma) is parasitic, it consumes energy just for itself -- it greatly limits your perception and understanding of the world. Good language is kommensal or even symbiotic, it may consume energy but does so very efficiently, whilst greatly expandibg your perception and understanding of the world (and yourself).Dead languages are special in that learning them requires you to either have innate talent or an already great proficiency in multiple successor languages and knowledge about relations and histories of the people who lived them. But I digress. Make an effort to control your language, don't let yourself be controlled by it. Ultimately "God", as a stillborn egregore, is the best example by which to demonstrate that most people operate on semantic playdough provided by third-parties, and why you shouldn't.(cont.)
>>522069424HOURLY REMINDER: THERE IS NO GOD, JESUS NEVER EXISTED, and WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY! COPE.
>>522073936With that said, let's loop back to "religious" people.>Why do they need to believe their canonically incomprehensible deity to care about them specficially? >Why do they think its perception and conception of the "seperation" between it and its creation is anything like theirs? >Why do they think its metrics of "good and evil" and "benelovence and cruelty" are anything like theirs? Let's ignore the connotations of modern language for once. Generally speaking: if your deity is a common denominator and creative, generative principle and one -- or THE -- motive force of nature: why interprete it strongly in your favor or the misfortune of someone else? You can acknowledge other and more tangible forces of nature for what they are without trivializing, scorning, anthropomorphizing or straight up idolizing and worshipping them, why not "God"? Likewise, if you dedicated your life to a deity and its scripture, then why would you never even try to learn the languages of what's left of the source materials?It's simple: religion has regressed to fortune telling for a profit. Clergy, the psychics, cold-read and sell people on the idea that there's a "ghost" in the room --telling them what they want to hear, not what they are ought to hear. Then clergy proceeds to make its newfound flock (co-)dependant on its mediation and the dictate of that "ghost". Eventually the grift culminates into an open-range mental asylum, commonly referred to as Clownworld. Now, whether the "ghost" exists is completely irrelevant to the grift itself. (cont.)
>>522072498The recent x location feature revealed that Jews promote Christianity and shit on Aryan spirituality and that many very big Christian accounts are from Africa
>>522074038How would you try to reason people out of the grift without divorcing the psychics and their conception of that "ghost" from the idea itself?Say, you burned the scripture -- you'd just make people forget the magic trick. When then another clown comes to town and performs the magic trick again, everyone will clap again and you're back to square one. You wouldn't resolve anything. Worse: you'd surrender the great tool that is this "ghost", yet again. If in a few centuries from now globohomo boils all scripture down to a single command "Obey!", repeated over and over, to facilitate its "universal religion", you'll still find great people who, against all odds, manage to salvage this scripture and the idea of this "ghost". I am sure you wouldn't credit globohomo and its "universal religion" for the good deeds of these great people and their mascot "ghost(s)" then, nor would you haphazardly conflate their mascot "ghost(s)" with globohomo's stillborn egregore -- so, why do it now? Likewise: why strongly interprete, in your favor or the misfortune of someone else, the very thing that is (per clerical and head-canon) beyond your comprehension? (cont.)
HOURLY REMINDER: THERE IS NO GOD, JESUS NEVER EXISTED, and WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY! COPE
>>522074111How would you try to reason people out of the grift without divorcing the psychics and their conception of that "ghost" from the idea itself?Say, you burned the scripture -- you'd just make people forget the magic trick. When then another clown comes to town and performs the magic trick again, everyone will clap again and you're back to square one. You wouldn't resolve anything. Worse: you'd surrender the great tool that is this "ghost", yet again. If in a few centuries from now globohomo boils all scripture down to a single command "Obey!", repeated over and over, to facilitate its "universal religion", you'll still find great people who, against all odds, manage to salvage this scripture and the idea of this "ghost". I am sure you wouldn't credit globohomo and its "universal religion" for the good deeds of these great people and their mascot "ghost(s)" then, nor would you haphazardly conflate their mascot "ghost(s)" with globohomo's stillborn egregore -- so, why do it now? Likewise: why strongly interprete, in your favor or the misfortune of someone else, the very thing that is (per clerical and head-canon) beyond your comprehension? (cont.)I don't understand why "God" can't be handled like any other force of nature -- without scorn, dismissal or reverence -- and why it's being anthropomorphized to begin with. You may aswell just adopt a pantheistic conception of it, consider it to be a Common Denominator or generative and creative principle and do away with the tribal, monotheistic circlejerking alltogether.You ultimately can argue in the terms of another's language, without conceding ground. (cont.)
>>522074061Isn’t it weird also why Ben Shapiro a Jew has the same sentiment that Christianity is great and that the old religions of the Aryan are literal Satan? Why do Christian’s believe the things Jews want them to believe while claiming they are against the Jews? Isn’t this literally the definition of cognitive dissonance?
>>522069424Why does Abraham keep lying about the status of his wife? It’s like he didn’t care if King Abimelek slept with Sarah? Did he have a cuck fetish?
>>522074194Pardon me, botched the pasting.
>>522074323Whatever you may make of the verbose digitial shitstain that is this blogpost of mine, I want you to understand that the conceptions of "God">as curiously-anthropomorphic and clearly comprehensible, at times petty and jealous, often judgemental, obstinate, hypocrite and moral, well-meaning and mischievous, occasionally malicious busy-bodyand>as common denominator or creative, generative principle that's truely incomprehensible, but ultimately perceptible and experientalaren't necessarily mutually exclusive. By reconciling them you can resolve virtually all contradictions that you'd typically find in (monotheistic) "religion". Suddenly free will matters, and creation in its entirety, as a staging ground for the godhead's quest for experience, becomes infinitely more valueable to the faithful. Suddenly you'll realize why Clownworld is seemingly spiraling out of control since the advent of parasocial surrogacy and digital caretaking: if experience had a nutritional value for "God", no matter at what instance you may observe it, then today's formulaic, regurgitated second-hand experience and algorithmic slop constitutes hyperprocessed nutritional blanks.If someone has to lie to convince you of the merits of their vision, then either their vision is not worth pursuing or they aren't fit to champion it. When is someone lying? Everyone ultimately has regurgitated falsehoods and half-truths taught to them with unwavering confidence and zeal -- you and I have too, most certainly. So, when does one lie? When one stops approximating truth, that is: when one stops asking questions. Don't stop asking questions. The more questions you ask the more resilient to dictate and bullshit you'll become, the easier you'll break the habbit of repeating it.
HOURLY REMINDER: THERE IS NO GOD, JESUS NEVER EXISTED, and WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY! COPE!!
>>522069424>gay retard kike worship general
Fun Fact:There are many denominations today and it is difficult for a new Christian as there are many groups trying to pull them in. Don't get lost, brother in Christ.The True Church:>The Holy Catholic ChurchWhy?>apostolic succession (continued passing of leadership role from Saint Peter to Pope Leo today)>unbroken heritage (has been around longer than any other church)>adherence to sacred scripture and sacred tradition instead of just personal interpretation>consistent hierarchy who keeps the doctrine solid and the priests together under one roof>preserved ancient history and helped maintain civilization eventually coming to rule Europe alongside its Catholic monarchs>preserved ancient Christian ritual in the form of the Mass and sacramentsOnly "Cousin Churches":>Orthodox ChurchSplit off in the Great Schism, western Rome remaining Catholic and eastern Rome becoming Orthodox. Major difference is that they do not recognize the Pope (stemming from east vs west split and not wanting to submit to a western authority more so than hatred for the idea of a leader of the Church, their patriarchs have similar leadership role). Minor differences in doctrine but enough that recognizing them fully is not appropriate. Today we are nearly reconciled, and it would not be surprising to see them return to the Catholic Church in our own lifetime. They are the first to visit and interact with the Pope without any trouble. Dear lost cousins, and both sides wish we could figure out.>Anglican ChurchLeaving due to an English King wanting power in the middle ages. Declared himself head of the "Church of England" and made some changes to suit his own needs. Eventually drawn into Protestant reformation and suffered more changes because of it. Ruled as a state church and changed based on the needs of the day which brought them to women priests and gay marriages to answer to "today's needs". Called "too Catholic" by other protestants. Poor Brits.
>>522074635>adherence to sacred scripture and sacred tradition instead of just personal interpretationNot even close. The Catholic Church went full on goddess worship based on absolutely nothing except because they wanted to erect a fertility idol in the way of paganism.
>>522074854Nonsense.
>>522074061>>522074204Because the Jews have made great strides in controlling the institution of Christianity. Remember, the Jews want control of the entire world and they will do it from all different sides. It is also good for the country that calls itself Israel for the Christians in the US and the world over to approve of their being there for they are a very powerful force to be used. This is trickery.This world however isn't the one that would host the Kingdom of God, because this world hates Jesus Christ and rejects Him. The Jews are doomed so long as they try and control this world.The Church was made by the Holy Spirit it's true, but when men decide to go their own way with the church, then the church will go astray and ultimately be led by the winds of the world rather than the world being made to follow the winds that the church blows out.The conditions of the modern day church and the like have been warned about in the past and we see it in the present. Only Jesus is the way and the life and the truth, and only through Him can we be saved. This earth is not for conquest but for salvation and repentance. The next earth has no need for such things for there will be no sin in the next earth. So, Anon, please pray for those who are astray and for those leading them astray. God is not ignoring any of this, and when the time comes for judgement there will be no more room or time for repentance.
>>522074392It’s been four minutes. Please reach back out in an hour
HOURLY REMINDER: THERE IS NO GOD, JESUS NEVER EXISTED, and WHEN YOU DIE IT WILL BE NOTHING FOR ETERNITY!
>>522074964Not nonsense, just how it is. Jesus Himself gave speeches specifically to ensure Mary would never be exalted in the way Catholics defer status to her, but they did it anyway. Sorry to say, but the church has long been corrupted. In the history of mankind, nothing good has ever come from these fertility idols.
>>522074243Abraham did so to protect himself, because he was afraid he'd be killed and Sarah be taken away because she was beautiful. Abraham in other words did so out of fear of what other men would do, which is something that God frowns upon.It's also interesting how God Himself appeared before Abimelek despite him being a Philistine, a Gentile.
>>522075234JESUS NEVER EXISTED
>>522075282There are proper historical accounts of Jesus being a real someone. Just doing a quick google search with the AI overview, we get names like Tacitus, Josepheus, and I could be wrong but I think even Pontius Pilate even had something say about Jesus. I remember reading a text describing Jesus having fair features and a "peaceful continence" about Him. Even the blasphemous "religious" text of the Talmud acknowledges Jesus even if it spoke falsehoods and hatred about Him.
>>522069424To add to the story of Jesus taking the whip to the money changers. Those were pharisee kikes Jesus was attacking. Pharisees were doing a short squeeze on the coinage at the time, purposely reducing the supply, forcing other jews to default on their debt losing their property.Jesus whipped them and was acting racist towards them. Shouting, turning over tables. Yids were pissed.
>>522075636>muh word of mouth counts as proofNice try faggot. He never existed.
>>522075695I'm not sure they were the pharisees specifically, but they are definitely opportunists who treated the Gentiles Court as a marketplace and not as a place for Salvation. What can I read or look up to learn more of this point you posted?
>>522075234>We do not worship Mary as Catholics>Mary is not a fertility goddess, she is Jesus' mother and thus revered as any saint>statues are not idols and contain no life or gods within, they are art>Jesus did not "give a speech about not worshipping Mary", that is just another personal interpretation your pastors use to create lies about Catholics>Ask any Catholic or Catholic priest if we worship Mary and they will say "No, of course not", but protestants want to pretend they can just decide what Catholics actually believe
>>522075718The Jews who hate Jesus speak poorly of Him. If He was never real, I don't think they'd write that Jesus was boiling in shit in hell or sheol or some ideological equivalent.
>>522075934Mary is deserving of reverence, because she is Jesus' mother, and she is as godly a woman as she gets. When it comes to men, the only two women you should never diss are their wives and their mothers. How sin-free she was and the like is something I am going to step back from.t. Presbyterian-raised Protestant
>>522075934There's a thin line between "veneration", and kneeling before a statue that is not God and having her immediately come to thought when you feel the need to pray, superseding Christ altogether. Saying "it's not worship" gets flimsier the more you observe how Catholics operate.
>>522074635No, The Catholic Church is not the Church of Christ. The Catholics are responsible for CENSORING, TORTURING, IMPRISONING, EXECUTING anyone caught reading, translating, teaching the Bible. They were not in the business of teaching. They were in the business of controlling and keeping in the dark. Guess what book the Catholic Church had in their Index Librorum Prohibitorum? By the time the printing press was invented the Catholic Church's tirade of banning the Bible was over. I owe the printing press my origins.The Catholic Church's "holy" history is actually based on a lot of forgeries they made up to rise to power and uphold it. The Bible would have destroyed that power if everyone found out that all those "letters" of Church Fathers were frauds.See: The False DecretalsCatholic encyclopediahttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05773a.htm>And even though it must be admitted that the popes benefited by the forgeries, their good faith is beyond question.The foundation of their history is based on forgeries. The church of the Bible is not the Catholic Church. That was a forgery.
>>522075860Pharisees and sadducees were the ruling class of the other jews at that time. The main persecutors of Jesus. (Pharisees still around, directing the khazar turk masses) >about the coinage short squeezeIt's in this documentary the Money Masters,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOk3wBuQNcE&ysclid=mic3fy7s5o933493725Lots of redpills in that
>>522076498You're not really in any position to talk about forgeries, when your own church is responsible for trying to add words to The Bible to fit their own fake doctrines. That's some real Joseph Smith shit right there.
>>522076797What we did in the NWT was already done by other Bible's before its existence. Nothing new was changed. The only "changes" we made was go against the KJV "tradition" and bypass it for the oldest manuscripts that had more accurate verses which is how we came to this Bible. Besides the NWT, other Bibles had already done the same before it.Yes, JW did change the Bible but that's because we changed it back to its original state WHILE you believed you had the original text to begin with.
