TURBO HAPPENING! Britain, Germany, and France just dropped the only peace plan acceptable to Ukraine and Europe!>Ukraine NATO membership up to NATO;>no territorial concessions;>ceasefire along contact line;>no cap on Ukrainian military;>EU membership;>reconstruction to be paid by Russiahttps://www.reuters.com/business/finance/full-text-european-counter-proposal-us-ukraine-peace-plan-2025-11-23/
>>522076887LMAO, its identical to their first "Piss plan"the london/nato approved '10pt ukrainian peace plan":"Russia can sit with its hands folded quietly, while nato and ukraine (the winners) decide its fate,and when decided, Russia will accept the decision, bow, and exit the room in silence"and now, for the decision:>ceasefire time-out so ukraine and nato can catch their breath and re-arm>restoration of ukraine to 1991 borders>Putin is arrested, tried, then executed at the hague for 'war crimes'>Russia is de-militarized, balkanized and divided into small adminstrative zones under nato command>assets of former Russian federation are redistributed across europe as reparations>Russian people are collectively punished for 'voting for Putin">ukraine joins nato>ukraine gets nukesthis^ is the literal, actual (((10 step plan for peace))) ukraine and nato have stated are THE STARTING POINT for even considering the first word of negotiation with Russia (which is currently still "illegal" under ukrop law)the ukraine can literally go ass fuck itselfthats its futureSource:https://war.ukraine.ua/faq/zelenskyys-10-point-peace-plan/?__cf_chl_rt_tk=q6ldjM6qE2HMQllgyUPUwHhGlk2O7qdOLmutKUmwmW8-1714872205-0.0.1.1-1599
just let them fight. it is in both America and Europe and China's interest for Russia to get weaker and weaker and weaker.
>>522076988wow, you were really ready with that copypasta weren't you fellow American from America?
>>522076887It's a good thing that no one asked Europe. They have less say in this matter than Ukraine itself
>>522076887> ensure no repetitionwith what soldiers? If all they wanted was an isolated economic bloc from russia they could have gotten that without killing 2 million ukrainian men
>>522077043>>522076988Is Joнnny нoтdog from kentacky oblast, blyat
>>522076887there is going to be another war, isn't it?
>>522076887Nobody cares buddy
>>522076999>America and Europe and China's interest for Russia to get weaker and weaker and weaker.Your lack of education is apparent. Europe is cracking at the seams while you talk as though it’s 1941.
>>522076887I should draft one of these for my girlfriend when I get one
>>522076887Well, now we have the "Americans are done giving a fuck and want their money back" plan and the "Russia must be stopped" plan.There will now be a shit-slinging debacle of a process that results in a plan that satisfies nobody, but achieves something or other.
>>522076887>NATO membershippfffffffffffffffffffffffft
>>522076887There are behaving like they are winning. They live in a parallel reality.
>>522077153Literally at the table with the Americans, you dumb vodka monkey.
>>522077765lmao. that was funny. do more like that
>>522076887kekThey dont have a choice lolUS pulls support and its all over anywayThere is no way Russia is ceding control of the gas fields to the EU/Ukraine, its what the war was about in the first place200 billion and they are still trying to win a bad bet
>>522077948Oh good, now that there is a maximalist plan and a minimalist plan, they can work out an actual fucking plan and stop screwing around.
>>522077043>>522077237You lost faggot. Coping and seething won't change that.
>>522076887Utter fantasy lmao, and their "demand" is that the U.S. offers a legally binding security guarantee (point 10)!!!!
>>522076887The hubris on these European elites. They live in an ultra mega vacuum bubble. This isn't even clever negotiating to buy time it's just full throat retard.
>>522078074oh look, a triggered fellow american poster from kentacky oblast!
>>522076887Just ignore the US capitulation plan, they're an irrelevant outsider in this war, even if they are arrogant enough to act as if they have a voice.If Russia insists on having their 2nd Afghan war and fight until their country collapse, then so be it. Ukraine can fight for as long as they have the spirit to do so, Europe will stand behind them. And Russia will pay for it all.
>>522076887What kind of autism causes calling this progress?
>>522078239I think the point is to prolong the war. Ironically, the Russians seem to be fine with keeping things going as well.
>>522078159Oh look, another NAFO traitor rooting for a foreign country.Question, retard: If THE ukraine is winning, why do other nations need to propose peace plans for them? Shouldn't they be doing it themselves? What happened to "crimea beach party 202X", faggot?
While i would love to see this go through, this is same kind of fantasy as the russian proposal.
>>522076887>no territory concessions>Ukraine gets everything it wants>Russia fucks off and gets nothing >also Russia pays for all the repairs>if Ukraine gets attacked again then the entire planet is legally required to attack RussiaI can only assume this was a false flag made to keep the war going, otherwise who the fuck though Russia would agree to any of this?
>>522078413lmao! do moar!
Have people attach their name to a democratic vote for support of the war,that way they can be drafted out to Ukraine to fight against Russia?Just run this vote in every European country.
>>522078141Lol. Anyone remember to ask Azov if they will please leave their fortified positions in the Donbass? Or did both the U.S and Europe forget to ask them ;)Castro shat on you for 60 years 100 miles from your border. Vietnam shat on you with AK-47´s and sandals. Taliban shat on you with AK-47´s and sandals. Azov will shit on everyone and keep killing ziggers as Putin runs his country into the ground trying to take the rest of Donbass. Cry about it.
>>522078413>says the shitskin with an American VPN
>>522078590>no argumentConcession: acceptedNow run along back to plebbit where you dual-loyalty subhumans belong.
>retarded euro kike elite are hell bent on causing a nuclear ww3Fuck kikes
>>522076887Based. Fuck Russian and fuck Stumpf.
>>522078695Any proof or are you just going to keep coping like a sad faggot?
>>522076999It’s not in Europes interest for America to get stronger, that’s complete bullshit.[Remember] The Eastern half was a proxy of Russia for decades.
>>522077926Transwinning
>>522078702oh i would never argue with you girl
>>522076887Hahaha, deluded Europe imagining they're in any position to impose conditions on the side that currently occupies a chunk of Ukraine. Russia should respond with terms which begin with 1. Zelensky impaled on a pole through the anus, Vlad the Impaler style, in the centre of Kiev
>>522078770look in the mirror, shitskin
>>522078924Want some cheese with that whine, you coping crybaby?
>>522076887yesss good thing ukraine won 3 years ago, otherwise this would be a total retarded capitulation by the russkies where they win nothing, pay everythingotherwise, they might just continue the war to the last hoholino and call it a day
>>522078638Killing off azov wont stop much, i think all Ukraine supporters should be drafted to go fight with them
>>522076887I'm so fucking tired of this shit. Let's just pull out and let the Euros deal with this one themselves.
>>522079244All Trump cares about is winning a Nobel they're never going to give him anyway. It's cringe. This shit isn't our problem, but Trump's ego makes it our problem.
>>522077948we're negotiating between ourselves what we'll do to you russia, don't worry, it's not like you're one of the fightersthe hubris is unbelievable, it's like when they said they should take the sanctions more seriously and that they should comply and not sell oil by shadowfleet because city of london didn't sell them insurance
>>522077153Nobody asked Russia either, lol
>>522078033>US pulls supportWe've been through this. Fuck all is going to happen.Trump admin is just grifting the entire situation like it does many other. The "Russian" proposal didn't even come from Russia.
>>522076887>Here is a list of muh delusions!>You will take it, Russia!>...>Oh noes, Russia did not take it!>....>Just 500,000 twitter comments until we take Moscow!!!
>>522079115Learn to read brownoid>>522079244It's your war, you dumb golem
>>522079526they asked you to SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TAKE THE LOSS, you can't win because they can't keep up, they're tired, military grift is too much, neo-mutted countries are balking for their gibs, electricity and heating and gas is expensive, germany can't stand it's chancellor, england can't stand it's prime minister, france can't stand it's emperor, spain can't stand it's shit presidenteyou've done enough russky, it's like you want to break europe instead of losing
>>522077153noo we are important, for realz, stop ignoring us!!
>>522079611Trump needs another win and soonEpstein is not going wellMiddle east deal is going as well as expected, not well at allPurely theatre but he will do it, the EU laughed him out the room for suggesting they shouldn't rely on russian energy, he is not one to forgetHe wants a result before thanksgiving, so anything can happen
>1. End the war and create arrangements meant to prevent any repeat, establishing a permanent framework for “lasting peace and security.”Nothing below establishes solid borders (both diplomatic and terrotorial) and closes issues.>2. Both sides commit to a full, unconditional ceasefire — in the air, on land, and at sea.End the war before establishing territorial ownership.>3. Immediate talks begin on the technical setup for monitoring the ceasefire, with U.S. and European participation.Ok, consoolting.>4. A U.S.-led international monitoring mission is introduced, relying mainly on satellites, drones, and remote tools, with an on-the-ground component to investigate alleged violations.How big is ground component? Nothing substantial.>5. A mechanism is created for filing and investigating ceasefire violations and discussing “corrective measures.”Nothing substantial. Russia can be fined with sanctions for provokations and minor violations.>6. Russia must “unconditionally” return all deported or “illegally displaced” Ukrainian children, under international supervision.Ok. Although there are cases of secondary relatives demanding children who were never under their care (just to stick it to Russia).>7. Full prisoner exchange under the “all for all” principle. Russia must also release all civilian detainees.What about Ukraine? Will it relese civilian prisoners? What about political prisoners?>8. After the ceasefire stabilizes, both sides take humanitarian steps, including allowing family visits across the line of contact.Ok.>9. Ukraine’s sovereignty is reaffirmed; Ukraine cannot be forced into neutrality.The whole war is about Ukraine taking a side.>10. Ukraine receives legally binding security guarantees from the U.S. and others — effectively an Article 5-style arrangement.Same as above. Is may be interpreted as permission to station troops.
>>522080028>11. No restrictions are placed on Ukraine’s armed forces or its defense industry, including foreign military cooperation.Just no. Allows Ukrane to militarize with western aid.>12. Security guarantors form an ad-hoc group of European and willing non-European states. Ukraine decides which foreign forces, weapons, and missions it allows on its territory.They will call in as many troops as they can.>13. Ukraine’s NATO membership depends only on internal Alliance consensus.So, NATO plus additional military guarantees from points above.>14. Ukraine becomes an EU member.Ok, no one objected this before.>15. Ukraine remains a non-nuclear state under the NPT.Ok. Who controls it? Will Russia be given access to facilities?>16. Territorial issues are addressed only after a full unconditional ceasefire.No point to state it like that if the won't be jewing their way to negate any recognition of taken territory.>17. Territorial negotiations start from the current line of control.Meaning, they won't be leaving Donbass to have their foot in.>18. Once agreed, neither Russia nor Ukraine may alter territorial arrangements by force.Ok. Should be "between themselves" though.>19. Ukraine regains control of the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (with U.S. involvement) and the Kakhovka Dam, under a special transfer mechanism.Just no.>20. Ukraine receives unhindered access on the Dnieper River and control of the Kinburn Spit.Dnepr is ok, but Kinburn Spit is taken. It gives them a foothold on the other side of the Dnepr.
>>522076887Why do they pretend that this is any different from any other European "peace" plan (complete Russian capitulation).
>>522080065>21. Ukraine and its partners conduct unrestricted economic cooperation.Ok.>22. Ukraine is fully rebuilt and financially compensated — including through frozen Russian sovereign assets, which remain blocked until Russia pays compensation.Lol.>23. Sanctions imposed on Russia since 2014 may be partially and gradually eased only after a “sustainable peace,” with automatic snap-back if the deal is violated.No strict timeframes, all based on the whim of the observers.>24. Separate talks begin on European security architecture with all OSCE states.Yep, that's exactly what Russia proposed in 2022, but was sent off.
hmmm
>>522079915Whether you dumb Ruszigger monkeys understand it or not, it is Europe that controls the $300 billion in frozen Russian assets.There's absolutely nothing the U.S. or Russia can do to change that.
>>522076887To the last oinkrainian it is.
>>522080074>>522080102You will pay reparations to Ukraine, AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Only unconditional surrender of western puppet regime and international trial on them. No other way. They started this war and it's the only way to finish it. Fascism is a virus, only way to cure it is to extinguish it. Nato also is an aggressor of course and bears full responsibility with their collaborators
>>522080028>>522080065>>522080102Fair assesment I guess, but does Europe eveb have any leverage, i.e. is there any popular or poitical will at all to end the war?
>>522080065>Dnepr is ok, but Kinburn Spit is taken. It gives them a foothold on the other side of the Dnepr.It is moer than that.IIRC it has something to do with international maritime laws. That is the reason that the spit is a part of Nikolayev region.If the Ukraine has control of Dnepr's mouth on both banks it gets a shitload of rights.
Our leaders in Europe are retarded. No way Russia ever goes for "you got nothing", surely they have to know that? You get nothing AND Ukraine is in fucking NATO?And we have to add the corrupt shithole to the EU? Fuck off.
>>522076887Death it is, die Taras
>>522076887>peace peace, when there is no peaceYeahI see where this is going
>>522080166OK, give the 300 billion to Zelinsky. I'm sure the banks in Israel will love having it.
>>522076887>Russia unconditionally returna all deportes and illegally displaced Ukrainian children. The process will be supported by (((international partners)))I'm pretty sure those kids won't end up in Ukraine. These demons are not even hiding anymore
>>522076887> 4. US-led international ceasefire monitoringHard pass
>>522080166taking those assets, from what I understand, leads to more problems for EU economy i.e it's pretty much not worth it for several reasons, besides the legal stuff and severing any kind of potential trading relationship (which is still a thing btw despite "le sanctions"). EU kikes have been promising for 3 years now, nearly every week there are headlines, how they will for sure take those assets and they still haven't done it, instead taking tax money from their own coffers. If it was easy and such a no brainer as you're implying then they would've taken those assets long ago.
>>522080510Yeah, funny how these eurotrash are attempting to force stuff on the USA and Russia.These eurotrash subhumans still think it is the 1600s
>>522080028>Same as above. Is may be interpreted as permission to station troops.Do you dumb illiterate Russian monkeys understand that Finland, the Baltic states, and Norway are NATO countries?NATO has been on Russia's border for many years already and never attacked Russia, you brainwashed dipshits.Ukraine will join NATO whether you like it or not.
>>522078555Euros want to keep the war going they know the populations will blame them for squandering all their taxes on a losing war.
>>522080631>Finland, the Baltic states, and Norwaythe Ukraine is nothing like those countries you disingenuous fuckwit
>>522080505Those kids that were "stolen" by Russia would be even worse in Ukraine, if the males don't have money to leave they'll be trapped in that hell hole, bombed and conscripted when they turn 25.In Russia they are safe from bombing or conscription, I would not want to return to Shitkraine.
>>522080631All those med countries shouldn't be
>>522080588It puts several banks in a very bad position, especially BelgiumIt also almost guarantees that any western business concerns in Russia get seized and soldFuel costs will immediately spike in winterIt will lead to protracted legal issues and other countries wanting guarantees and concessions before investmentIn other words, completely retarded so I am guessing it will happen this week
>>522080388>you got nothingRussia gets what it occupies, that's the baseline of the negotiations.>Why would Russia accept what it has now when it is advancing further Why would Ukraine give it away for free instead of making Russia bleed for it?Russia can continue expanding at this rate as long as they want.Russia doesn't have a land problem, it has a demographic problem, this war is not worth with even if they had a favourable kdr.
>>522080738>Ukraine is nothing like those countriesFinland literally had a war against Russian subhuman invaders, you uneducated dumb fuck.
>>522079152What a zinger. That would mean that most of Nato forces including Americans would take all their military equipment and declare war on Russia. Fucking monkey.
>>522076887they are already making concessions to the russians>territorial issues will be discussed and resolved after a full and uncondictional ceasefirethat's acknowledging all russian territorial gains. zelensky's disqualifier of last week is decided matter today
>>522076887ignore for 3 weeks,then its thanksgiving long weekend then its so long ago who knows who proposed what
>>522080388Why should Mordor get anything? Losing over a million dudes and occupying some farm villages doesn't mean shit, you want to trade you give everything back, this isn't the 18th century.
>>522076887The West only really cares about the return of Crimea to Ukraine, Russia can keep the rest but no to the following anyway:22 - no.20 - no.19 - no.13 - no. stupid faggots never learned that lesson and look where it got them.11 - no.10 - Stop draggin the U.S. into our unsolvable faggorty you wrothless irishman.9 - europe's joke.The U.S. and Canada combined had 2x teh number of people die to cancer over this shit show as all of the peopel that died in ukraine; pay us, now.
>>522080972Nope, it means they will bitch about the land forever, just like Japan does with Kurils.
>>522080948That was almost a century ago you fucktard boomer. Also Finland isn't a failed state with a large russian minority and ancient cultural and political ties to RussiaNow kill yourself piece of globalist filth
>>522077948>"negotiations">no RussiaSomeone should tell those clows that I can also put on a suit and sit at a table with some of my bros to draft a "negotiation plan". And then I can also send it to Russia. And then they can also laugh at the joke.
I don't think it is physically possible to come up with a treaty that's even remotely acceptable to Russia, Ukraine, the EU and USA at the same time. Hence, the war will continue until government of any of those 4 entities collapse. Which will be first I wonder.
>>522080972It means nothing will happen. Putin needs to take all of Donbass. He can´t do it. The war will continue unabated. Russia has about 24 months left, that´s me being generous, before they have no money, no electricity, no oil to sell, not even any gold to sell and they simply collapse. Then Ukraine will get all their land back, including Crimea. We will also take Kaliningrad, as a "temporary" security measure. Russia is going all the way back to the 90´s. With having their new leader being found passed out drunk in the halls of the White House as they beg for food assistance.
>>522081369ok retard
>>522077043>wow, you were really ready with that copypasta weren't you fellow American from America?>>522077237>Is Joнnny нoтdog from kentacky oblast, blyat
>>522077043>>522076988>two faggots immediateposting>the self-deprecating ideologue blabbermouth one at least understands timingAhh jeez!
>>522081103>b-b-but muh ties to Russia!
>>522076999>it is in both America and Europe and China's interest>t. (((Milton Friedman)))alliance between German productivity and capital with Russian resources would mean prosperity for Europe and the Muricans being kicked out of the Old World, nothing else
>>522076887who are these retards to make condition, kek? Even ukraine could solo half of modern europe. toothless nigger continent.
>>522081532>immediately thinks about sucking cocksRussian confirmed
>>522081560Novgorod and Old Ladoga is even older. What's your point?
>>522081644It’s like expecting Hungary and Romania to invade Greece or something and get it over with in a year kek
"Alright, alright, you can keep North Africa"
>>522076887Lmao okay. Who's paying?
>>522081280russia ofc, you have front row seat to another collapse :)
>>522081624> muh German-Russian economic boomYou tried it already. 2% average growth for 10 years with severe underinvestment in everything
>>522080166Are you people retarded? If European banks can just take your money to fund your enemies if they don't like you, why the fuck would anyone ever use them?
>>522076887Clinical imbeciles. EU genuinely needs to be dipped into war to get a taste. Fucking cunts.
>>522076887Lmao. Top kek even.
>>522081762You don't associate with Novgorod, you associate with Golden Horde and rightfully so
>>522077153Stop flying drones over my head
>>522082402You wish, nigger.
>>522076887>Ukraine becomes a member of the EUThis has to be fake. Ukraine is very far from satisfying the membership requirements. At any rate, the only hope the Ukrainians have left is to somehow draw the Turks in to the war which is the only power in the region which could help them. They could offer to return Crimea to the Turks instead of the Russians. That would be amusing.
>>522076887If it's their plan, why does America have to do all the work?
>>522082193Trust in European banks remains the same even though the EU froze the Russian assets four years ago.Do you dipshits believe people will keep their money in corrupt shithole dictatorships like Russia or China?Russia invaded Ukraine and started a war, so they have to pay for the consequences.
>>522082557You are, nigger, and you will pay reparations to Ukraine, LMAO
>>522082587You haven't done shit but legitimize a war criminal
>>522082402Muscovy was a little shithole.
>>522076887I like how they need us to still be the muscle after mocking us for spending so much money on our military over the years. What a bunch of women.
>>522082587You know how at weddings there are tables for kids?
>>522082740>DeutscheniggerbabbleYeah whatever man, Europe should take everyone's money because of capeshit
>>522076887>literally10-fold worse than Minsk, which was offered BEFORE NATO got its ass beat and 2 Million soldiers whacked.Yeah, fuck you Khazar Kallas.
>>522082894You analogy makes no sense. America is being used like an overseer and mob enforcer in this deal.
>>522083008You will pay reparations to Ukraine, nothing you can do about it, LMAO
>You-ropeWho asked?
>>522082861Might as well toss a map of Japan during sengoku jidai. Hojo territory was a little shithole back then.
>>522083119>YouThere's NOTHING that you can do to stop your repudiation and incarceration, Khazar.Pray to "Abba". (demiurge)He can't save you.
>>522083052EU thinks that they matter in big boy talks. All decisions are being made by big boys. Therefore eu playing pretend at kids table.In my head it makes sense.
>>522076887>Ukraine NATO membership up to NATOWhy are our elite such pricks. If you had a referendum in NATO countries this wouldn't get approved. Who wants this?
>>522076887Ukraine is like a post-wall 40+ year old, single mom, fat roastie looking for a man over 6' tall, with 6 pack abs, and a 6 figure plus salary, working in finance to take care of her and her bastard child. Delusional.
>>522083521Sign the contract, LMAO www.poteru.netFind your stepdad LOL
>>522083762>Who wants this?london, thats wholondon authored the stunning and brave EU peace termsits 100% them and only them behind this dogshit
>>522076887So US is going to leave NATO for good then?
>>522082861Good reminder to you that it was Slav mutts Prussians who unified your country not the pure bred germans who were stabbing each others ass for a millennia.
>We want russia to give up, and to pay for everything and Putin to resign and to-Shut the fuck up ridiculous niggers nobody cares about fucking Europe nowadays lmao
>>522076887Vatniks not accepting NATO membership for ukraine even after getting all of their good territory with the rare resources is 100% clear indication that they will eventually attack ukraine again when it becomes convenient for them. Its not rocket science and there is no reason for ukrpiggies to accept the treaty as it is, they have zero security guarantees, word of russia means nothing in this situation and US word even less
>>522084029SEEETHE, Kike.Not gonna harvest my IP.Kike.
>>522084386>YourYou're talking to one of 1 million piggers in Germany
>>522076887Next time do not support pidUAr orcs against the army which kills meat waves after meat waves 20 to 1, duh.
>>522076887>>Ukraine NATO membership up to NATO;>>no territorial concessions;>>ceasefire along contact line;>>no cap on Ukrainian military;>>EU membership;>>reconstruction to be paid by RussiaSo, how exactly are they going to enforce all that? Have they managed to enlist some extra terrestrial army? Cz the EU member states have 0 fucking power.I hope you morons actually send troops into 404. I will jack off to London, Berlin and Paris disappearing in a nuclear blast...
>>522084723With the same thing they've been fighting this war all along.
>>522084565Why the fuck they are on this fucking site of all possible ones.
>>522077765>Europe is cracking at the seamsThe EU has 10x the GDP of Russia. And Russia is already 20% shitskin Muslims. They are in the same boat, except Europe mogs Russia economically and militarily. Not I didn't mention NATO and the US. Europe alone could fuck Russia back into the stone age.
>>522082773Or instead all mongol looking swarthy ukranins racial mongrels will go back to Asia or Africa and leave their white superior alone, how about that?
>>522084208>So US is going to leave NATO for good then?God willingnato is an utterly provocative relic of the cold war that should never persisted one day after 1991
>>522076999It's in chinas interest to see Russia made subservient to them. Which the ukraine war has done, but it's not in their best interest for Russia to slit it's own throat over a territorial skirmish and deplete themselves so brutally that they can't act as a buffering force or second front in europe when they initiate war with the USA in the pacific.
>>522084500>Vatniks not accepting NATO membership for ukraine even after getting all of their good territory with the rare resources is 100% clear indication that they will eventually attack ukraine again when it becomes convenient for them. Its not rocket science and there is no reason for ukrpiggies to accept the treaty as it is, they have zero security guarantees, word of Russia means nothing in this situation and US word even lessshut your faggot nigger mouth you /k/posting twerpnato is never going to be allowed to build fucking military bases, listening posts, intellgence assets or whatever devious shit they have planned to park in ukraine EVERukraine is never joining nato, not ever
>>522085321LMAO you faggot /k/ niggers are so patheticthere will never, NOT EVER be a US war with China, which would be nuclear IMMEDIATELY
>>522076887Cool. So basically it will be refused and zelensky will now be forced to accept whatever changes russia males as trump said he has no choice.
>>522080464Its even funnier the uk expects to pay their loans to ukraine with interest generated by it. Records show the interest is declining heavily and most is in the EU who would not give it to the UK. So basically the UK is on the hook for it and doesn't have anything to pay it off with.
>>522085113>The EU has 10x the GDP of RussiaHahahaha, most of their economies are in the toilet. Ours is.>Europe mogs Russia economically and militarilyHahahaha. Here in the UK we have the armed forces to last maybe two weeks in the Ukraine. Not that we could deploy them in the Ukraine, we would need US help. Our equipment has already been seen to be destroyed on the battlefield. Other EU countries are scarcely better. 2/3 rds of Germany's air force is grounded to be used as spare parts for the remaining third and the majority of their army was found to be obese and unfit. France got kicked out of Africa and one exercise they started to deploy their 7th armoured brigade to Romania as a warning to Russia, which began in 2022, hasn't even yet been completed in 2025. Their tanks couldn't be transported by road, they'd forgotten HOW to transport them by rail because it hadn't been done in 25 years so everyone who knew how had retired. And when they got the tanks to Greece (they had to use civilian roll on roll off ferries) they were defeated because there was no bridge into Romania strong enough to take a LeClerc and they apparently didn't know how to make a pontoon bridge, despite the brigade having two engineer units.NATO is a fucking joke. It's beyond parody how shit the EU countries have let their armed forces deteriorate.
>>522085113Here's our largest group of muslims - tatars. We are not the same.
>>522076887LOLLosers don't set terms
>>522085113Lmao why does a mutt simple for Gayrope?Gayrope is ana abysmal shithole.>Ummm 17+ countries together mog le oneYeah no shit, moron. Doesn't change the fact that premier European "powers" have zero industry, zero social cohesion, zero energy sufficiency. The Russian Bear can hold their own against the giant pack of hyenas. That's doesn't speak well of the pack of hyenas.
>>522085454>lmaoWhen you reply to posts like this it's a clear admission of apprehension. You're trying to convince yourself of that more than me. You're wrong, deep down you know it.
>>522086134Looks more.limea. flex of superiority as the person they said it to was being so dumb.
>>522085382I don’t give a fuck what they do or don’t do you fucking spastic, i am just stating an opinion. Fuck off. This deal is shit and it likely wont pass, prolonging the war even further because your orange morong doesnt have a single fucking competent man in his entire cabinet and his head of diplomacy is a corrupt neocon. On the other side, up in fucking kremlinstan, the people around putin are also incompetent yes men who cannot draft a decent treaty ever. Fuck both of the sides and fuck you especially for being an autistic spastic, eat shit
>>522076887>delusional EuropeansThis basically guarantees that Russia is going to end up conquering Ukraine completely. Of course, many Europeans (Germans, French, Polish) will have to die first. Got to kill as many Whites as they can - the only goal of this (((war))).
>>522080620>says the nutt living in a turd world country who can't even locate ukraine or russia on a map.shut up nigger trash.
>>522086134the sun will revolve around the world backwards before the US and China go to nuclear war or any war (it would only be nuclear)>>522086428youre a dumb fucking /k/ posting stupid nigger if you think "HURRRRRRRRR RUZZIA'S JUST GOING TO INVADE AGAIN!!!"nato played its entire deck of cards and failedRussia will never have any need to "invade again" because ukraine and nato are goin to be folded up forever in the one single mass-grave to the (((rules based liberal world order))) in some field in ukraine
>>522080620>These eurotrash subhumans still think it is the 1600sI have never seen such dangerously deluded "adults" in all my lifenato acts like literal impudent children who lost a video game, and simply demand that "WE WON" despite all of reality being contrary to the fact
>>522077153I find it amazing how much Russians and Americans sound alike. No wonder you guys sliced the world in half lmao
>>522078042>they can work out an actual fucking plan and stop screwing around.europe has zero intention of doing this ZERO
>>522087236They're both deracinated, miscegenated, rootless, mutted kike slaves but then again, so are you
>>522078173>ukraine can fight for as long as they have the spirit to do so, Europe will stand behind them. sounds like the war ended a long time ago
>>522076887Why are the real great powers still hearing to all those ancioent failed empires? I doubt anyone in the planet depends on them
>>522076887Nothing about ceasefire in space!
>>522078159>oh look, a triggered fellow american poster from kentacky oblast!
>>522086649Yeah
>>522087384its always crazy jews can the worlds genetic dumpster and still have takes like this
>>522087214It’s a gambling problem. They have sunk 200 billion into a gamble of getting access to Ukraine resources, mineral but mainly the huge energy reserves in the east. It’s not happening but like a bad gambler they can’t help themselves. They are also quite thick. The last round of sanctions they cooked up they had to roll back 2 days later because they crippled their own defence contractors
>>522076887Well, that is the one thing thats totally OFF the table. So, now what happens?
>>522077153Nobody is scared of your shit military anymore Ivan. China is watching and they are about to invade to take land and nobody will care to stop them
>Ukraine is forced to join the EUIts clear how they plan to refill the land once the war is over, they want to import niggers and pajeets, its over for ukranians.
>>522076887>>no cap on Ukrainian military;frfr
>>522076988Wtf is wrong with these dumb niggers?Just tell this. Who would be in charge of managing all the administrative zones? Lmao.
Why are shithole countries like Russia and China and India and Israel and so on always causing hassle for civilised places like Europe and America? Why cant they just behave in a civilised cooperative manner?
>>522086649In case this conflict drags on, the areas north of their southern front are most desired, bunch of resources there. Area around kiev and to the west along with whole western ukraine of it will be left alone 100%, they will be stuck paying off the accumulated gigadebt for over 10 generations
>>522080718This, sunken cost fallacy, the European elites already invested the euro's future on this war
>>522087498It's crazy jews mutilated your cock to mark you as their slave, then had your cuck parents pay for the pleasure while selling your body parts to the highest bidder
>>522082587Because the plan is for NATO to provide military oversight for Ukraine, but NATO's military is basically all America, so regardless of what happens any military oversight will have to be done by the USA.If the USA were to just up and leave NATO, they would basically 95% of NATO's military might with them.
>>522076999But is not getting "weaker and weaker and weaker" exactly stupid retard the dead will be replaced not everything is gore, while they are developing new doctrines, experience and weapons and refurbishing their nuclear arsenal to make sure it will work they are increasing their internal security and growing their economy everyone is getting involved in the military one way or another if anything the viper grew.I don't know about Europe but China is more concerned with getting back Taiwan.
As soon as we stop killing each other, we'll skill them. Hence why we bounce from one crises to another.
>>522087925>It's crazy jews mutilated your cock to mark you as their slave, then had your cuck parents pay for the pleasure while selling your body parts to the highest bidderhope this happens to you
>>522076887Best plan for the peace in Ukraine is for all of the pro-E.U. to be slaughtered
>>522087708>Wtf is wrong with these dumb niggers?>Just tell this. Who would be in charge of managing all the administrative zones? Lmao.they pay this guy $hundreds of thousands of dollars to "figure that out" then peddle it to euro think-tanks that make london happy
>>522085113ruski shills are genuinely beyond deranged. they think the mighty russian army that's confirmed to have suffered 1million+ casualties against its former satellite state can threaten any euro nation.i reckon poland can crush russia in a year or 2. obviously putin is the only smart man in russia in recognizing the limitations of the state, hence why he issues sternly worded warnings whenever the west escalates.
>>522087786>This, sunken cost fallacy, the European elites already TORCHED euro's future on this warits fine, eurpeans dont own cars, but they CAN have car-payment tier energy bills!
>>522076999>AmericaKike exposedIt is in the interest of USA, EU and Russia to have all of the Zionist Faggots like you Decapitated
>>522087236NO MORE BROTHER WARSHopefully this deal happens and then the US and Russia can have closer ties. Trump and Putin can be frens
>>522080166No, you have like a spread sheet on an excell program, if you try to "liquidate it" illegaly you will just pour money (not wealth) into your economies, creating inflationThat's why those resources have never been liquidated, it will only exist if it is done legally and internationally recognized, even by russia
>>522087934If NATO is all USA then why did you cry for Europe to help you in middle east?>Muh freedom friesGeeeeeeg, sit down, you bitch ass nigger
>>522080166>There's absolutely nothing the U.S. or Russia can do to change that.guess what happens to your entire military apparatus and every defense feature the totality of nato operates??????COME ON..GUESS!!!!!!
>>522078772America is in the process of commiting a Ukrainie in Venezuela.
>>522080869>it has a demographic problemNIGGER thats the totality of europeeverywhere every countrythe only populations expanding are jeet and african, at the expense of literally everyone elseholy fuck everytime you faggot niggers talk about Russia and "muh demographics!!" you like ass-eating nafo troons
>>522077948>all these retards to write up what reads like a shitpost
>>522088317>memeflaggot thinks the E.U.S.S.R. actually means anything in NATO (Nigger And Tranny Orgy)Fucking kill yourself, jew
>>522076887>Member of the EUOf course, now that they've killed off millions of it's inhabitants it's time to import a krillion niggers to work on Mosanto farms and shove their shit into the continent by the trainload.
>>522078638>nyone remember to ask azov if they will please leave their fortified positions in the Donbass? Or did both the U.S and Europe forget to ask them ;)azog? lmao those absolute pussy faggot niggers will get burned alive in their positions, starved and then shotazog is ZERO factor in this war, and will be killed to the very last troon wearing the patch (and its hilarious)
>>522076887good thing nobody asked the fallen, irrelevant empires
>>522088435retarded nigger Venezuela is going to collapse on its own out of fear of the air-craft carrier just sitting near itVenezuela is NOTHING like ukraine NOTHING
https://x.com/navyhato/status/19924554731661804788 min for the misinformed
>>522088729I've already heard that. Don't be suprised when China and even Russia will try to support them in a roundabout way.
>>522088691>good thing nobody asked the fallen, irrelevant empireseurope is fundamentally not possible of any rational behavior when it comes to Russiaas a resultthey can sit at the kids table and wait for the adults to serve them reality, if they dont like it, then they simply wont eat at all
NAFO commits suicide.
>>522076887Why the fuck would Russia accept this?
>>522076887Ukraine and the EU would love Ukraine NATO membership so they can falseflag an attack. >article 5 And we have ww3 happening. And god know they are working their asses off to make it happen. Is the covid vaxx some anti radiation shit?They have been planning this for a while. I don’t like any of the plans. If trump get his way, then we will all have to pay for ukraine for years. It will be a bottomless moneypit. Until they are ready for ww3. The European plan is even worse. What we need is for Russia to take over all of ukraine, then make rules about neither nato or Russia expanding and that’s it. Ukraine forces are already starting to crumble, but it’s still going too slow. It will be interesting when russia starts sieging an actual major city. I think that will be the breaking point as ukraine will throw absolutely everything at it. Best bet now is to start attacking the last big towns and then focus on zap, then Kharkiv. Make the front shorter, then start attacking from the north. I get why russia is taking their time, but if it takes too long, then the west will pull a wildcard like sanctioning everything left of the river and make it prt of Poland or something to protect it under NATO.
>>522088805>I've already heard that. Don't be suprised when China and even Russia will try to support them in a roundabout way.an ocean separates Venezuela from any such support, and the US is patrolling their litoral borders like sharks at seaits not vietnam (attached to china by land)or Afghanistan (attached to islam countries by land)venezuela will be asbolutely fucking shattered on contact with the US
>>522088885>Why the fuck would Russia accept this?they would never, and like the (((Flamingo))) missile (which doesnt exist and was always stormshadow strikes)its just london "trolling" Russia and Trump because they are unserious queers incapable of being major players in the great global game forever nowits fundamentally over for europe, who has no industry, resources or military power to compete in the 21st centurythe best london can hope for is to keep the world frozen in 1991, which is what this entire conflict was supposed to do
>>522088928bet you're leading the charge brave goy, have you joined the navy yet?
>>522088845It’s not Europe, it’s the eu, as in the retards sitting there. They have sunk so much into this they know they can’t back out without essentially destroying their dreams and careers, maybe even their liberty. The eu is finished and these retards done it, trying to pull what you lot did in the Middle East on their own doorstep with a nuclear power. They tried to tap into a cheap energy source by destabilising a country, thinking Russia would let them.
>>522089208Its especially retarded because there is energy to be tapped within EU territory + UK. All the climate change cult bs. There is oil and gas that is untapped in europe.
>>522081560Now do the same for New York, fucking cockhole.
>>522089181>have you joined the navy yet?nah, im a straight white male,YOU THOUGH.....!???judging by your fag...i mean flag, you would be like an admiral or something
>>522089443>Its especially retarded because there is energy to be tapped within EU territory + UK. All the climate change cult bs. There is oil and gas that is untapped in europe.nigger where, Norway wont give theirs up and i dont think europe has 20 years to stand up the process anywhere else
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>>522076887Watching these cowards beg Russia to stop is priceless.
>>522089443Yup, they thought they were clever On climate change bs, industry accounts for 70% of emissions so it doesn’t matter what the fuck we do
>>522089604Yeah theyre behind the ball but there is offshore drilling that can be done and coal. If they didnt fall for the climate change green energy hoax they'd be better off. Oh well. US is producing more LNG now and can ship it to euro land. They shouldve listening to Trump in 2017 instead of laughing at him in the UN. He was right and they were wrong and now theyre suffering
>>522089680>its wounded
>>522089604Greece, Romania Cyprus have all recently stated reservesNuclear energy is the most valuable energy source though, it’s perfect for industrial
>>522089847if europe had it all built NOW it would be too lateanything planned&expected deliveries 2030+is too late
>>522087708No concession to america, you planned this war with your Russian friends.Israel is your mutual friend.
>>522090067great, it will only take 15 years to set the industry up, construct the facilities, extract the resource, build the delivery system, (Deliver it) and then reap a profit!!!
>>522088360You have no kill switch on French weapon.Please, tard, do boost our economy.
>>522076887Kek. Good luck with that.
>>522076887The children part is deeply sinister. >>522077948Nukeless comment. >>522080166"Hi please never bank with us">>522080388They just want an endless conflict with Russia to sure up money from the US and solidify the block. It's a good grift. It doesn't work if Russia is friendly, and the US has essentially indicated that they will choose whether the EU will use Russian gas. And Russia doesn't care about these public proclamations, so there's no risk that it triggers the Russians to shut off gas. As long as the EU get paid, they're not going to stop. And plenty of them have green ideas that having a large economy is le bad anyway (which seems to be, much of it, a kind of sadism toward their own people). People actually take that shit seriously over there. So they're not as threatenable with economic damage. As long as the people running the EU stay paid.
>>522080631>Ukraine will join NATO whether you like it or not.But how though, if Russia is comitted to preventing that and the EU and US aren't sufficiently motivated or capable to cause that to be?>>522080718There must be some sort of gambling going on where they realise that they're in a bad position so they need to keep going.>>522081280I think the EU will try to intervene or will widen the war to transdnister, and Russia will accept the fight and win (unless the EU starts conscripting, in which case Russia wins anyway because it will cause the EU to implode).>>522081624In my limited experience, Russians are Germanophiles. They love you guys.>>522089847I wonder how much of it is Europe trying to find a mission in the world. Like, they got colonycucked and then they were a front line in the cold war. Then reconstituted and they made some good art like David Bowie. Now what? I guess they're going for making a sort of WEF world.
okay, stop wasting my tax money on this shit then
>>522090202Oh, I agree, it’s why there is a picture in this thread with most of the eu sitting in cuck chairs in the corridor If they had done their job and started in 2014 instead of fucking around in Ukraine they would be goodNow they are 200 billion in the hole with a war on their doorstep and about to lose the only safeguard they have unless they shut the fuck up
>>522090202Kek. Those German clowns thought they were le smart and le drumpf was a retard. Whoops! Many such cases
>>522090544You better believe he hasn’t forgotten about that
>>522090354you joined natoits like taking the vaxxthere is no getting the nato "out" of you anymore
>>522088546You will pay reparations to Ukraine, AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>522090632>You better believe he hasn’t forgotten about thatwhich is why europe gets to watch the piss talks on tv to find out their incoming fates
>>522076988>ceasefire time-out so ukraine and nato can catch their breath and re-arm>restoration of ukraine to 1991 borders>Putin is arrested, tried, then executed at the hague for 'war crimes'>Russia is de-militarized, balkanized and divided into small adminstrative zones under nato command>assets of former Russian federation are redistributed across europe as reparations>Russian people are collectively punished for 'voting for Putin">ukraine joins nato>ukraine gets nukesYour terms are acceptable
>>522076887Insane.Ukraine want their land back they have been loosing.
>>522090664not one nigger cent of "reparations" will ever be paid to ukrainein reality, ukraine will be throttled, bled and squeezed for every last dime it embezzled forever, with most of them being literally hunted down an killed for it
>>522077635Who's going to fight it?
>>522076887Whites gotta go in the meat grinder. They're going to get real quiet, and spring the big war by Christmas.
>yuropeeons are talkinglisten everyone! quiet please! the people without freedoms, guns or an actual army are speaking and making demands
So what if Russia doesn't agree to these terms?
>>522090761>your terms are acceptableINSTEAD YOU GET *THIS*
>>522076999You've hyper-developed Russia into the most capable and prepared for modern war militaries in the world.Well done.
Im infuriated how people can’t see this shit as a Jewish war. Ukraine picks a Jew to rule them, wars happens in like 2 years? Russia is run by Jews since 1917. Now people are waking up to Jewish control and there will be war? I’m not going to fight simple as fuck all warmongerers, it’s supposed to genocide us to replace us all there’s not even a reason to fight this war.
I know we have problems but I genuinely am grateful that we are not part of the EUThe rest can be sorted in time but the EU, jesus
>>522085113Delusional yanks detached from reality.
eu is terrible, we should have focused on working with turkey on shit defeating russia.
>>522090857>So what if Russia doesn't agree to these terms?huh? what the fuck did you just say to me zigger?ok thats it you BYLAT>*presses the article 5 button so hard it literally emulsifies*>*passes 666 new sanctioooooooooons that cause a temporal disturbance that purely psychologicaly transports Russia back to Dec.26 1991*you want more Putler *flicks Putins ears* HUH PUTLER YOU WANT MORE??? *pulls Putins pants down* DO YA..? YAH DIDNT THINK SO VLADDY SIT TF BACK DOWN AND BOW BEFORE YOU SPEAK
>>522090821You will pay reparations www.poteru.netFind your stepdad AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>522091130Turks are notorious backstabbing insects. Never make them your allies.
>>522080166The issue is that the money is gone. Europe used it while thinking they were guaranteed to get it in reparations from Russia.Why they were delusional enough to keep thinking this, this late into the game... makes no sense to me, but it seems they really drunk the kool-aid like a cult.Anyway things are kinda fucked in Europe and after its all done, they'll be buying American gas now instead of Russian so the US will consider it a wash
>>522076887>no territorial concessionsGet real
>>522091035>country with the easiest to game conscription rules joined nato, and thinks nato will bow out of existence before playing all its cardslmao, you and finland exist in nato for 1 reason and 1 reason alonejews love "laws" and "legality" and with your two nations, they have stone-cold written authority enshrined in your constitutions, to draft every last one of you and send you off to be liquified by Russia for "AS LONG AS IT TAKES"you better fucking BELIEVE nato will play that card before it goes extinct"youve been warned"
>>522076999>Europelmao. this entire war was about destroying the EU and subjecting them to the US by destroying their economies, emptying their military reserves, and preventing the formation of a unified EU military by moving operational command of the meager forces they have to NATO. mission accomplished. the EU vassal scum politicians are either the worlds biggest retards or the worlds biggest traitors, or maybe both. lol. US/China/Russia rule the world and the EU and UK are permanently 2nd tier now.
>>522091174>You will pay reparations LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ukraine will pay reparations to europe for centuries instead
>>522076887Why would Russia ever agree to this fucking kekApparently Ukraine and Europe is far away from max pain if they are still demanding such ridiculous things
>>522091326>no territorial concessions>Get realI SAID NO RUSSIAYOU FUCKING SURRENDER TO ukraine AND PAY IT BACK RIGHT FUCKING NOW OR I SEIZE YOUR BANK ASSETS, ROLL THEM UP AND USE THEM AS TAMPAX™DID I STUTTER ZIGGER?
>>522091327Polish public is very anti war but I’m afraid of one scenario. If Nigeria with snow invades Baltic states we won’t abandon our allies and join the shitshow. This is the only way polish public would somewhat accept this state of affairs. In any other way we wouldn’t be joining anything but yeah fuck Jews and fuck Russia. Literally genociding whites to replace them with shitskins - both sides. Also a literal honeypot for muh fighting national socialists and fascists to get in and fucking get killed so they can’t have any political power in the future. Jews did that.
>>522091435this document is londons workits simply the equivalent of screaming random "FUCK YOUS" and "*MIDDLE FINGERS*" to Russia and Trump for further publicly humiliating a completely castrated europe that has no voice n the matter what-so-everand neither does ukrainelosers of 'total-wars' like this get absolutely fucking jack shit nothing when they are over, regardless of if the eu ever accepts this historical reality or not
>>522091435>Ukraine and Europe is far away from max painthis is the EU desperately trying to prevent zelensky from signing an agreement to the US plan. it was doomed to failure before it was even written. the US plan is a done deal z will sign it.
>>522091260They are all woefully inadequate for their roles. They have elected themselves and spend their time convincing themselves they are good at their job.Their job used to be making rules for trade, now it’s conducting a war.No wonder it’s turned into a shitshow
>>522076887Judging by their track history, "give us everything we want, and we lose nothing" is going to last for like two months and then they'll start attacking civilians again while calling the civilians "Russian separatists".
>>522091554>Also a literal honeypot for muh fighting national socialists and fascists to get in and fucking get killed so they can’t have any political power in the future. jews did that.lmao, ukraine did that part to itself all while thinking it was sticking it to the jew while doing it
>>522076887If putin agrees:>nothing gained + ukr becomes nato + pay fineIf putin does literally nothing right now:>nothing gainedEU is not very smart and only virtue signaling
>>522076887Reached 6 before it's all garbage from there. Assuming the US is financially done with this war it will be ignored.
>>522091480I'm afraid not but enjoy this (You) at my expense
>>522091687>Their job used to be making rules for trade, now it’s conducting a war.and because they are european, and played vs other euros they could stamp their feet, and squeal and bitch and make demands upon, they got hyper-dimensionally delusional about their power levelthe reality is, europe has less geopolitical power than african or 3rd world south american nations, and thats not even a joke
>>522091660Agreed, the tone and look from the Ukraine delegation was very telling The US is going to stop all aid unless he signs Fuck knows what the eu thinks it’s going to achieve
>>522090975>You've hyper-developed Russia into the most capable and prepared for modern war militaries in the world.>Well done.
>>522078173just two more weekseveryone will be home by Christmas
>>522091704It was a coordinated effort. Wasn’t azov founder a literal fucking jew from Israel? Kill off your best male population for 2 oblasts which were in open rebellion for 8 years. Fucking Jewish dog Zelenskyy.
>>522091812>I'm afraid not but enjoy this (You) at my expenseALRIGHT HAVE IT YOUR WAY>*99 sanctiooooooooooooooooooon virgins for you, just the way Muhammed™ promised*not so tough now are you mr.DICKTATER
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>>522091818europe is an amusement park to promote shitty luxury brands to the new emerging class of high income consumers in china, india, middle east, etc. they are disney, larping as the continuation of a culture that doesnt exist any more. and they cant even run their theme park properly and it is falling apart.
Why is Russia such a shithole? Why can't they be white like the Japanese?
>>522091818At the moment, yes but the main reason is the euEach nation as a separate entity could and has combined well but this centralised government of unelected bureaucrats has been an absolute disaster
>>522090975laff my ass off 99% of Russian gains were in the first three months, now they take less then 1% a year. Russia has devolved due to sending all their trained troops into the meat grinder
>>522076887ok that's retarded, ukraine in nato ? lmao even
>>522092030>the new emerging class of high income consumers in china, india, middle east, etc.Why are zigger third worldists so utterly delusional?
>>522091905Anything added by europe will likely be ignored. The US terms seem to be Ukraine has no choice and if it expects to continue it will pay by itself. It basically implies anything demanded by russia short of a few outstanding demands will be met.
>>522091960just think azog was supposed to be "international"all the >"based Rightwing HItler-chads!"were supposed to see azog, and go running for the nearest fucking ticket to poland to join the war and guzzle Russian bloodbut instead, all they got were the most mind-diseased bloodthirsty reddit troons imaginable, were instantly liquidated the moment they arrived
>>522092111Why would a mutt be patriotic for shitrope? I see your green card scum
>>522092202>the US terms seem to be ukraine has no choice and if it expects to continue it will pay by itselflol this was keev precisely 48hrs into "no US intel" btw
>>522076887All you fags fuck offThis is the right plan, the ethical plan and I am sick of cynicism. Real peace plans have never been tried as the saying goes, now Europe has tried. They have been working overtime 24/7 at Reinmettal and we going to kick some ass.MEGA = Make Europe Great Again
>>522076887So basically they want to keep fighting. That's not a peace plan, its a suicide pact. Im am so done with Ukraine and the EU. Even if Ukraine manages to somehow outlast Russia, who gives a shit? There wont be anyone left to celebrate it.
>>522092347>Nooooo you have to love Russia they're good boys they dindu nuffinLmao
>>522092111you can go read LVMHs annual reports if you want to
>>522092202Absolutely, the feeling is that the eu and uk (starmer is on his last legs) are just trying to save faceThe eu has verified few arms left to give, they need to buy them and if the US refuses to sell its overEven if they do sell, they won’t get enough at any point to mount anything beyond what’s happening
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>>522092005You want to sanction my tiger chow? Fine, I'll use POWs
>>522092416>EU+Britain >Tolerance>Enlightenment>Humaness>ProgressivenessLmao, nafotroon bot spastic posting propganda from the 1800s
>>522092202You’re retarded, misguided, ignorant and arrogant. Classic American; wouldn’t surprise me if you’re black, hispanic, or fat; perhaps all 3
>>522092571>Can't readLol zigger
>>522090761>re-armLol. NATO's not even at war. Maybe we should be, we could hang Putin from the Kremlin and then send Russians back all the money he used to buy billionaires to subvert our politics. Everybody wins.
>>522092486>US refuses to sellwe are happy to sell. lol. cash up front for over priced shit that russia will destroy anyway. russia is fine with that, so we can continue the war indefinitely as long as the EU pays for it. we are just collapsing the Euro one Dollar at a time. we are only selling last gen tech, so it doesnt threaten russia at all, and doesnt expose our current gen to combat which retains its informational edge, so this works for everyone.
>>522092561>>522092538>>522092503>>522092501>>522092416>>522092354>Just dumps his dogshit propganda folder into the thread with 16logs by this IDEnglin isn't sending their best
>>522076988YeaaaaaahDead to the Russian dogs!They are the reason why the world is such shit.They betrayed communism. They let GAE to be formed.The traitors must pay!https://dl.depot.4d2.org/MJdEeHlEHup4.mp4
>>522092068Hello, nigger. Here's South-Sakhalinsk.
>>522092722>EnglinWhy does this one place make third world brownoids seethe so hard?
>>522092747>Look at this commie memorial!Russia is a third world shithole
>>522092643KekLast round of sanctions, the mighty EU announced them, within 48 hours they had to convene a meeting to try and get out of their own deceleration’s because their defence contractors pointed out they had just crippled the supply chain they needed for new arms
>>522076999Yes.The rusaians chose this in 1991 when they sold out USSR , their own glovalnstance as a flival power to be part of GAE. For greed and money.This shit can not be undone.Now they must learn and pay for it.
>>522092830are you posting from pakistan or bangladesh?
>>522092912If Russia is so great why did you flee to a NATO country?
>>522092867>America: I Consent>Foreign Government: I Consent>Former Government Recently Deposed in Coup: I don't Consent
>>522092830My little negroe, you seem to be a bit butthurt. Here's more.
>>522076887AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AND WHAT HAPPENS IF RUZZIA DOESN'T ACCEPT THIS PLAN, IS FRONZE, GOYMANY AND BRITAINT GOING TO INVADE?
>>522078033I think there is lythim there too.
>>522092327can you edit this in with "OKINAWA" on itlol, tried to find the jap woman he raped and killed but ran out of time searching before I had to post!
>>522092959>fleewas born here before NATO membership was imposed on us
>>522093013No one wants to be in shithole Russia's sphere of influence. China fled it first, that's why they invited Nixon. Eastern European countries all defected when they got the chance. Not hard to understand.
>>522093019That looks like shit lol
>>522093021>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AND WHAT HAPPENS IF RUZZIA DOESN'T ACCEPT THIS PLAN, IS FRONZE, GOYMANY AND BRITAINT GOING TO INVADE?lmao, thats the plan !! coalition of the willing even!
>>522093064>What about what aboutLol
>>522076887ngl EUrofaggot quenching like this plan is exactly what Putin wants. Since the Americans know where the war is heading, hence why Trump is panic-planning a peace settlement.Russia doesn't want any peace deals, it feels comfortable achieving all goals militarilySo this is just another time-waster
>>522076887>Ukraine becomes a member of the EUThis is rich though, after forcing several countries in even after the referendums failed, they drop all pretense and just say Ukraine is in the EU. Wouldn't that be up to the Ukrainian people and not this EU peace plan draft committee? Holy shit they don't realize how far the mask has dropped do they?
>>522076887If they have to mention Ukraine regains control of Zap. nuclear plant and sites along the Dnieper river, does that mean Russia is keeping the land they conquered?
>>522093361Starmer, the frog and kraut are all finished politically They know it, they are doing their thing to try and secure whatever positions they can when they are out of government Ursula is just retarded and delusional, the rest are career politicians and lawyers trying to fight a war by committee It’s so bad you would get laughed out of a writers room for suggesting it as a script
>>522093159So Ukraine's a little dusty, but in Germany everyone has to share a wall with a neighbor and they probably get in trouble if the hedges aren't perfectly straight.I'd be more comfy in the Ukraine one as long as the roof and heating are good. The German pic has no appeal to me.
>>522093818All these "finished", "retarded", "delusional" people are socking away $billions of bitcoin, while Ukrainian and Russian boys continue to be sent to their deaths.Terrible.
>>522094049>bitcoinnice meme
>>522093078>No one wants to be in shithole Russia's sphere of influencelol. its a big world. i wouldnt want to be in russias sphere of influence either, which is why i tolerate the sky high level of american bullshit, but if you cant deal with russia you are free to move to america, europe, asia, middle east, and there are plenty of smaller countries on the peripheries of each major sphere where you can select a jurisdictional balance that suits your lifestyle, so leaving is an option, going to war with moscow is not.
>>522093078I'm sympathetic to Russia, but they certainly haven't done any favors for Lebanon, Syria and Iran. At the end of the day, Russia will stand aside and let their friends get raped
>>522078799Gh0yva
>>522094338they were not in a position to do anything, which is the whole point of the US and EU attacking their periphery, to stretch them out militarily, and forcing the capitulation of client regimes is a demonstration that the US has the capacity to escalate a real destabilization campaign, so it is maintaining credible escalation to facilitate a negotiated settlement
