>The Caucaus countries have the strongest men on the planet and are overrepresented in Olympic wrestling and combat sports. >They also have high rates of inbreeding. Former UFC champion Khabib is married to his second cousin and is the product of cousin marriage himself. Do you think inbreeding can preserve and enhance genetic attributes like strength?
No otherwise Jews would be strong instead of squishy
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>>522086308Just gear like everyone else, stop being clueless
>>522086430If everyone is on gear then it still means they are genetically stronger
>>522086308It's because they have high participation in combat sports and start at a young age. Imagine if every pro athlete in North America started wrestling at 8 years old.
the best white american athletes are too rich and smart to go into combat sports. the best black american athletes who do go into combat sports go into boxing, where there is infinitely more money. ufc is filled with tier-4 athletes, and has a rule-set tailor made to advantage dagistan wrestlers. those are the two reasons why dagistan wrestlers thrive in ufc, but no other sport.
Once you learn just how rigged the UFC has become in the last ten years, you'll stop giving a shit about the latest "champions."
Incestuous marriage is legal in 18 states.
>>522086548They used to and then sent all of them to die in WW1 because they were scared of the impact they'd have on society. Same reason they promote retard nigger monkies 24/7.
>>522086421Jews did the same thing except they preserved higher iq. /pol/ says its mainly verbal iq but it doesnt explain things like overrepsentation in science/math and chess
>>522086657Its not rigged >>522086666
>>522086308Polynesian giants are all inbred incestuous samoans. inbred vigor
>>522086424look whose talking Mordecai. Zio Kikes are insanely inbred.... gaslight lie gaslight lie gaslight lie gaslight lie gaslight lie lie lie
>>522086521Some genetics respond to gear better than others (well known), for different races they would probably see more drastic differences between them. These specific fight teams also have much more of a capacity to cycle properly than others since they train overseas, which is more significant than anything I said so far.
>>522086308Is not because of incest but because Caucasians are the closest descendants to Neanderthals who had super human strenght
>>522086424.. .
Inbreeding does lead to more ideal features/genes not being diluted if done right.If you have IQ 200 human breed with genetic diverse person who has 100 IQ you just end up with midwits taht don't help anyone. Likewise for musculator build and fat genetics.Marrying cousins/2nd cousins is the right incest. Fucking your daughter/sister/mother etc is the bad incest. This is what leads to retards.Instead by incest breeding in the right way you preserve and increase the vitality of bloodlines by ensuring it maintains and is never broken and diluted, infact you are repairing what was lost in the exchange if you interbreed with the correct selections.tl;dr do it right and you make supermen
>>522086308Basically we can make super soldiers with inbred humans
>>522086308they're overrepresented there because all they do is olympic lifting and combat sports. how many kids at your school grew up doing olympic lifting and combat sports? everyone i grew up with played basketball and football and baseball and ran track, and we absolutely crush these monkeys at those sports.
>>522086308Well, retard strength is a thing, so there's that.
>>522086308Depends completely on the level of inbreeding. There was a famous study that showed that couples at the level of third- and fourth-cousins had the the greatest reproductive success.>the greatest reproductive success observed for couples related at the level of third and fourth cousins. https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.1150232Ideally you want to mate with someone who is genetically similar to you, but not too similar to avoid the negative consequences of inbreeding. A second cousin only shares an average of like 3% of DNA with you which is trivial. Even a first cousin only shares an average of like 12.5% of DNA. Prehistoric humans didn't live in cities. They lived in small tribes of like 100 people.
>>522086912I kind of doubt your theory because Caucasian refugees outside of Russia that are based in Europe or US are also overrepresented. >Yakhaev from turkey >Mohammed Mokaev from England>Evloev ingushetian who is based in USA >Merab Dvashvili, lives in USA >Ilia Topuria lives in Spain>Arman Tsarukyan Armenian who lives in Russia but spends his time training in LA
>>522087166Yeah these Caucasian guys typically come from small mountain villages
>>522086308Mountain niggers were trained by the best Soviet trainers and incubated for 50 years just to direct their chimpouts to the ring. It was a monke eugenics program, just another kind.
>>522087124They come from tiny republics with a few million people. There are more Americans training wrestling and lifting from a young age
>>522087672Source?
Bring back Pride rules and these crotch sniffers disapear again.
>>522087624Forgot islam dulatov in Germany
>>522086308Jews are the most inbred race on earth and they are weak as shit.
>>522087624Have you ever ran gear? Ignore androgens just with cardarine alone you could remove 1 minute from your mile run for most people.
>>522086556Why would an american egg thrower be a good fighter? Completely different skill sets
>>522087811No, they would have to adjust but still would dominate. They would take people down then knee their head from side control/judo throw then soccer kick them in the head.
By OPs logic raping young boys makes them in to tough fighters, ergo all raped could dominate in the UFC
>>522087891Wouldn't people with greater genetic potential overall benefit from roads the most? Its not just about the genes that allow them to respond the most to roids
>>522086694There is actually some truth to this. Inbreeding does have the potential to exacerbate good traits in the same exact way it exacerbates bad traits.You are just as likely to get a ridiculous Hasburg jaw and mental illnesses as you are to get genius IQ and world-class athletic abilities
>>522086308Inbreeding makes you low iq, but tribal. Whites are so wierd because they're the least inbred.
>>522088017I don't watch MMA today but in the previous eras the foreign fighters had no real means of testing in any sense. Anyone who trains in the US could still do the piss rotation move mcgregor did but you really just cant properly cycle, or cycle what you want anyways
>>522086308>Does inbreeding make you strongerno
>>522088323https://ufcantidoping.com/testsThe russians and other foreign fighters are actually tested more often than Americans
>>522086308Its called Tard Strength.
>>522088514>2025Do you know nothing about the history of USADA? Like literally nothing?
OP IS A TURBONIGGER, >DOES CHINAS GOLD MEDALS MEAN THEY ARE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR?????Maybe training toddlers in sambo and injecting them with Soviet era wonder drugs until they are 18 could have made a difference…
>>522088610Explain
>>522088681Many of them grew up outside of Russia. And China is obviously successful because they have 1.4 billion of them. These Caucasian countries are a tiny fraction even combined
>>522086694>muh high iqlol. Nepotism and psychos taking advantage of naive high trust society. Average iq of Israel is 94>>522086788>also this pro sport with shitloads of gambling drama, shitty judging, owned by jews and Conneticut masons, with random drug tests that never affect the non Whites, does not enforce rules about eye pokes isn't riggedlmao
>>5220887401. You like most people know nothing about gear testing. I'll help you there, you have to test for the exact molecule. If you slightly change any given research chemical, sarm, or serm you now have what is called a "designer drug" and you literally cannot be tested for this given the pure cost of them not knowing what to test for. Some people are caught for the PCT (clomiphene) or other compounds associated with gear like est blockers.2. USADA was only doing walk in tests to US fighters for basically the entire history until after Mcgregor
>>522086694You ever think that their visuo-spatial reasoning is as low as it is relative to other groups owing to their beady little eyes? High analytical reasoning, relatively average visuo-spatial reasoning.
>>522086694Jews are dumb as shit, they just employ every manipulation tactic in the book.
>>522088842>outside Russia>inside the old Soviet Union These commies are de facto Russian
>>522088910Also if you want to know the why USADA actually started testing, it was because they were selling the UFC
Why can't americopes understand that they are soft like baby shit these days?You are not entitled to have white american UFC fighters, just like you are not entitled to have NBA mvps. You have to WORK to earn things, you communist niggers.
>>522088870Israel is majority black and brown. Ashkenazi jews are the only ones with high iqs>>522088910A lot of these fighters grew up outside of Russia so I doubt they were pumped with designer drugs. Even then, these cacausians rise above all other foreign fighters. Also idk what you mean by "until after mcgregor" do you mean after he became champion?
They are obviously roiding there is multiple times they accidentally admit it in their broken english
>>522086308No having no other opportunities and the constant advertisement of getting rich by fighting makes you that. These Churkas always larp as historic fighters but the truth is they lost every battle and had been converted to Islam by sword. And because they live in corrupt shitholes the only way to get money is to be a good show fighter because the homosexuals elites like kadyrov collect them like Pokémon.
>>522089048That's what black people say about whites to cope. Manipulation at the scale required to occupy all those professions requires high iq anyways.
>>522089214>so I doubt But have no proof, knowing that these ex Soviet states cheat in every other “sport”, but this one… nah doood, it’s genetic
>>522089214>A lot of these fighters grew up outside of Russia so I doubt they were pumped with designer drugs.What the fuck are you even saying? Do you actually think fight teams are full of natties? That would be hilarious if you did
>>522089327High IQ is realising you can manipulate people, but not doing it. Jews are too low iq to consider the consequences of their actions.>most persecuted group throughout historydoesn't seem smart
>>522086694Almost all of the smart jews are mostly Italian and german. Italians have the best fluid intelligence and Germans have the best "crystallized" intelligence.
>>522089314They lost battles because they were small, technologically backwards village people. The average Gaul was depicted by romans as being giants with retard strength and they still conquered them.Just look at the average Caucasian man, they are built like a shithouse. Its genetics
>>522089488I also seemed to confuse you with the term designer drug. You think it takes some sort of secret operation to run an uncommon untested research chemical? You just pick one they dont run the 10,000 test for.
>>522089421My proof is that even when they grow up in the west they become great wrestlers and fighters.
>>522089688Such as..?
>>522089568Ashkenazi jews were genetically isolated from their host countries. There's not much genetic difference between a polish jew and an Italian jew. Most their genes come from a small founder population of western European women (they have euro MtDNA) and near eastern men (in their y chromosome).
>>522089688>grow up in the west Meaning wut exactly, >niggermanifchov came to Germany at the age of 17 years and 360daysInjecting children human growth hormones during developmental years will result in more muscle striations and denser bones.. wut you keep referencing when you say “they look like a shithouse, its genetic”
>>522089804Ilia/aleksandre topuria, mohammed mokaev, Ismail naurdiev, abus magomedov, islam dulatov
This thread is trying to justify the Existence of Somalia and habsburgers.
>>522089917In my opinion only the heavier weight classes would matter in any measurement from MMA. If your entire population is all under 6 feet on average in your nation then you would produce many great manlets, but less so gigachads
>>522087897why would extremely gifted genetic phenoms with insane work ethics be skilled at combat sports? i think that question kind of answers itself.
>>522090197Ilia is a striker not a russian jon fitch, one of those agovs literally said in camera >i take break for streoi-Then corrected himself.Another said he take epo, MMAguru covered it well. Either way they are blatantly drug cheats.
>>522090197And no m not searching those names but they clearly are russian dagi inbred druggies
There are perks of not diluting your genes wirh subhumans.
>>522090480Ilia's background is greco-roman wrestling. He offensively grapples in almost every fight and used his wrestling to reverse a takedown from Charles oliveira (who outgrappled many other wrestlers)
>>522086308These are just fighters on roids.
>>522090371I think in Fighting first and foremost comes your heart and skill, then your genetics.Otherwise manlet thai guys wouldn't be amazing fighters. Machismo culture also helps with developing fighters.
>>522089935Theyre still mixed with ancient italians and aegeans i think
>>522091079fighting is like any other athletic pursuit: genetic talent + practice. the reason low income countries and regions are over-represented in combat sports is because they are poor and have less to lose. the less popular the combat sport globally, the more likely one particular region is to dominate it.
>>522086308This whole facial hair look is so damn hideous to look at..Its funny these backwoods retards think that it looks good. Some "humans" really are just animals.
>>522087933Strikers dominate pride
>>522086308They are certainly not the strongest. I don't recall ever seeing one in competitive strongman tournaments, let alone winning a WSM title. It is usually northern Europeans.
>>522086308>Second Cousin>InbreedingAnon I...
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>>522091558Yeah like the German guy who won the Olympic Gold he had promised his wife before she died. https://youtu.be/jPwDWMfy7Z4?si=ytm_AO6FtWjuzzXj>that moment he points to the German eagleHEIL HITLER!!!!!
>>522091771third worlder triggered because no one cares about their muslim mandingo pets.
>>522086308no, they just come from a culture that prioritizes peasant combat and being a mean piece of shit
>>5220863081st and 2nd cousin breeding of good genetic stock is ideal for humans BUT you need to have at least 10 kids and a high child mortality rate otherwise the genetic trash corrupts the bloodline.
>>522086308No, having strong Arabic blood like the Caucasians does. Allahu akbar.
>>522086907Not as inbred as Muslims though
>>522086308youre talking about arabs and africansyes they have the highest inbreeding rates
>>522086430no thats not gear, thats just working out everyday. if its gear then theyre bloated and biggeryoure not that smart are you?
>>522088870>muh nepotism1/3 of american physics nobel laureates have jewish ancestry.
>>522086308They are not the strongest males they are just raised in a Spartan way that produces the best fighters right now. It was blacks in the 80s Ukrainians un the 90s and now Caucasus
>>522091530Rizin exists (same ruleset as Pride) and their p4p best fighter is a Tajikistani grappler. Some of the best pride fighters were wrestlers anyways (Dan Henderson, rampage jackson, fedor, big nog, shogun)
>>522095365Blacks are still the most explosive athletes and Ukrainians are tough cunts with high iq in boxing. Caucasians are the strongest
>>522089488They have the same access to them as any other western fighter is my point
https://youtu.be/jQRNkLFVKMQYes
they rape men, raping men gives you a testosterone boost.
>>522086308No, I think roiding up to 30 pounds over the weight limit and then using tin foil wraps to cut weight the day before generally makes you stronger
>>522096191Makachev and chimaev move up a weight class and became champions. They are not bigger than other guys in their division
>>522090371"Gifted genetics" isn't a single skillset. A handegg nigger that can run fast isn't necessarily predisposed to be a good fighter or even grappler. In fact, fast twitch fibers can be a disadvantage in grappling because they fatigue faster.
>>522086308>heems the inbrednothing personal
>>522096337https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCGQwr4-ibY
>>522086308The hottest girl I ever dated, her parents were cousins. They had a photo of her 12yo father holding her mother as a baby.
>>522086308Even in our country, the best wrestler ever to compete is still ethnically Russian (Alexander Karelin).However, it all boils down to the fact that it's an ancient and traditional sport in Dagestan, plus top Soviet coaches like Alexander Fedorov taught them sambo and provided the sports infrastructure. That's all.
>>522096767was she jewish?
>>5220947711. Gear will not give you any mass if you do not eat. They are doing weight cuts and not eating.2. Gear doesn't just mean androgenics you absolute dumb fucking retarded nigger, not that you even know what that is
>>522088173that implies there's an equal number of good and bad traits to intensify
Where do you get the idea that they are the strongest? When it comes to wrestling, the sport is apart of their culture. They start as very young kids and its really all they do. Cultures that have a certain sport built into their daily life, tend to produce people who are dominant in that sport on the world stage. Islam and Khabib benefited greatly from good match ups. They have predominantly fought strikers their whole career. Khamzat is pretty much the same. That being said, many up and coming/young fighters are specifically training to defeat The Khabib style of MMA wrestling and many of his fighters are losing. Ian Garry proved the other night that he can defend against dominate wrestlers by beating the former 170 champ, the way he did.Khamzat would have lost to Usman if it were 5 rounds. Islam has been knocked out before. Khabibs cousin and brother have both lost recently. Everytime a dominant fighting style comes along, people will train to beat it. Similar to how BJJ dudes like Royce Gracie were practically unbeatable for awhile.
>>522097072Nope. Irish.
>>522086666The rates of incest in the states is miniscule. The laws haven't really been changed because inbreeding isn't very prevalent anywhere. Regardless of the bullshit Hollywood says.
>>522097577parents 1st cousins?
If you want to create a dog breed, do you breed dogs that are pretty different? Or do you breed them with other very similar dogs that all have the qualities you want?
>>522088935I think its basically down to the fact that being smart in their society was the ability to debate the Talmud, read Hebrew and such.
>>522097251If you took S4+Anavar you would gain no mass but your PRs would go up 30% in a month, and this would be considered a tiny baby stack to what you could do in this world
>>522086308Caucasians dont inbreed and have laws against inbreeding.Khabib is an extreme outlier.
>>522086308Pretty sure they're just on steroids. Its like super obvious and I Dont know why they arent getting tested
>>522097769They are literally an inbred genetic pocket in the Middle East.
>>522097769They are inbred and reproduce primarily within their small mountain clans/tribes. The North Caucasus is a small region, but it is home to a staggering number of different ethnic groups.
>>522097889They actually arent.>>522097936Their inbreeding coefficient is low for the region.
>>522086308no steroids do, they have a loop hole on passing steroids and fasting they also barely fight eachother
>>522097769https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2080444/
>>522087755Its all about culture. There are pockets around the U.S. that produce great wrestlers and that's because there is a wrestling culture in that region. Its not necessarily about the amount of people participating, its about the amount of people who take a sport as serious as Dagestan does wrestling. >>522096337Only a couple of those Dagestan fighters have a good gas tank.
>>522086308Inbreeding van keep together gene clusters that co-evolved so maybe. But not exactly
>>522086308>Do you think inbreeding can preserve and enhance genetic attributes like strength?IT does for every other organism, surely we wouldn't be different
>>522086308your wrong though strong man record holder are overwhelmingly Nordic.
>>522089314The Kadyrov fighters in Ukraine getting their shot pushed in, proves they aren't some great warrior race. They simply are good at wrestling because that is all they know from a young age.
>>522097994Yes they are. They plot in a tight group on a PCA. Gtfo of /pol/ you are not white.
>>522097994Their inbreeding coefficient is like 50-100x europe
>>522090197The Topurias are Georgian. The rest of those fighters are average. The manager/former muzzie terrorist, Ali Aziz used his connections and money to create a funnel to pump these fighters into organizations like the UFC. Most of them don't end up doing much.>>522096191Guys like Khabib and Islam definitely were weight bullies. Islam is a natural 170-185lb fighter. His match up against JDM greatly favored Islam because JDM is predominantly a striker. Islam will have a hard time against a 170lb fighter like Usman or even Colby.
>>522086308You don't think that maybe it's the mountainous terrain that breeds strong men, idiot?For the exact same reason you see Scots and Norwegians pwning strongmen/lifting competitions and such. Highlanders/mountainfolk are just built different.
>>522097646Yeah. kek
>>522088870You can't fake being good at chess, denial of reality because it doesn't fit your feelings is woman-tier shit. Underestimating your competition is one of the easiest ways to fail and a man is meant to be objective
>>522086308>2nd cousinThat is not incest
>>522096074> Typically sports locker room guyHey guys look at me swing my penis! I'm totally not gay hahahahaha. Totally just kidding. Look at my penis!
Yeah please tell me about all those great Arab and Indian fighters.The Caucasus is one of the most invaded places historically by major empires and these guys are soviet trained. Of course they are more suited for combat.
>>522086424>inbreedingDis brotha in da know
>>522086556This is correct. Also for a thirdie from Dagestan, UFC income makes you one of the richest people in your country. For westerners that 12k per fight is poverty and you have to work a regular job to survive while you're coming up. Also there's literally nothing else to do in that shithole aside from fucking the occasional goat.
>>522099723Hikaru took the Mensa Norway iq test and got something like 97. Chess is rote memorization, it does not require great intellect, otherwise pajeets wouldn't have as many GMs as they do, it's just the bell curve.This isn't underestimation, they have successfully manufactured the consensus that they are smarter than the average White, that influence cannot be underestimated.
>>522086998Ayo my Abo brethren, thanks yall for chiming in about the benefits of inbreeding with yo alternative ways of indigenous knowing. Happy huffing ma man
Sage, Jews are superior to these monkeys (inclusing in fighting) but Jews purposefully keep them around to increase diversity.Jews are the MASTER RACE.
>>522087777Soviet niggas literally tried to cross wybois with cimpanzees back innate day, straight up Yakuub shit right there. Can't really tell the russian from a chimp though so the experimental groups was likely mixed up with the control group and excaped the labs
>>522086308These mother fuckers are training since they're kids in the mountains. You can do that in this country, just take them away from school and put them in a gym wrestling for 12 hours a day until they come out like monsters and then throw them in the octagon.
>>522086998This is what happens when you have 1st and 2nd cousins breeding generation after generation
>>522088288There's an entire continent called south america that's full of ultra heterogeneous super mutts and it's a poor, violent shithole.
>>522096306Chimaev didn't move up a weight class, he had medical issues making 170 so Dana told him he'd get cut if he missed weight againHe's fought at 205 so he's oversized even for a middleweight
>>522099570Dominating in wrestling and dominating pure strength events like powerlifting and strongman are two different things.
>>522086308Technically yes, there is a point of inbreeding where you can achieve a legitimately unnervingly perfect replication of the same genes forever.You would have to ruthlessly kill off every single undesirable result and there would be a fucking LOT of them. But over the span of a few thousand years it could be done.Cheetahs are like this. They’re so inbred that they can take skin grafts from each other easily with zero rejection. All it takes is a long enough bottleneck and a sufficiently ruthless environment that kills off all the tards.