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Like all pseudospiritual new-age garbage that the Beatles got your boomer parents hooked on, including the jews that teach about evolution in schools as if it's "settled basedience" - these lies will not save you.
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>>522093308
I commit all federalanons from Tel Aviv to depart to your breakrooms from whence you came. This is a Christian board, and an Orthodox Christian thread.
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True, but you gotta come up with a coherent non-Dispensational interpretation for Romans 11. Here to help
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>>522093308
>>522093327
can you explain why you worship a brown circumcised jewish manlet from the middle east?
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you are brown
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>>522093564
Shalom
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>>522093625
please answer the question. if you dislike jews there is no reason why you should be a jewsus worshipper.
so why do you worship a brown circumcised jewish manlet from the middle east?
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>>522093559
>manlet
According to the Orthodox Saints who described Jesus's physical appearance, he was seven full spans in height (about 6.07 feet tall). This also matches the estimated height from the Shroud of Turin.
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>>522093874
according to jews they are gods chosen people, does that mean its true? of course not,
so why should I believe what a bunch of people claim who profit from an obvious fake and gay religion scam?
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>>522093774
It's pretty simple, kike. The Bible says you're not a Jew. There is no contradiction.
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>>522094082
try again but in english this time.
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>>522094129
>try again but in english this time
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>>522093874
Also other features of His appearance:
>skin tone the color of wheat
>long hair, not very thick, somewhat blond in color
>beard not very long
>dark eyebrows
>bright blue eyes
>face not round, but rather longish
>prominent nose
>exceedingly handsome in face (this also matches the prophecy in Psalms which says the Messiah has more beauty than all the sons of men)
>strong voice, yet gentle in speech
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>>522093418
There's nothing to "come up with", only what Christians believed and have always believed for 2000 years. The Church in the collective wisdom of the Holy Fathers does not change, we have one coherent understanding and tolerate no sperg to get up on a soapbox and posit something that flies in the face of it.

The Church is true Israel, that is, God's people and God's family. Those who believe in Him and follow His commandments are His people, not those belonging to a specific geneaology.

>They are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. (Romans 9:6-8)

>I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan … Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)

Sorry /pol/ but this also means british israelism and all similar brands of "Christian Identity" is made up modern heresy. Why would you be obsessed with making a genetic connection to the Hebrews if God says this is not necessary? Many accounts in the Gospels make this innovation incompatible too, such as the Centurion who Christ said had more faith than all of Israel. You'd have to do some mental gymnastics to come up with him being ackshually a secret israelite descendant, even though Jesus Christ implied the opposite with his explicit contrast of the people of Israel. Regardless of what's in the Scriptures (looking at you misled protestant Sola Scriptura subscribers) look at what happened in history and also in the Acts of the Apostles; the Apostles went throughout the world. God is a God of love and came to save all creation, not just one genetic group
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>>522094222
>"I hate jews so much I have funny jew caricatures saved on my computer but I also worship a jewish brown man from israel as my messias"
kek
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>>522094029
>No, I won't accept any evidence!
Then why did you make shit up about his height, you lying little rat?
You've proven yourself to be a dishonest rodent, and no one ITT will take seriously anything you say.
Might as well leave the thread or switch IP.
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>>522094277
>There's nothing to "come up with", only what Christians believed and have always believed for 2000 years
Stop coping with this lie of a line. I've probably read more of the Fathers than you and there is no one in the first 200 years that even talks about the Eschatology of Romans 11. It's pure cope and, hopefully, beneath you.
>Sorry /pol/ but this also means british israelism and all similar brands of "Christian Identity" is made up modern heresy.
Nice wacky wildcard strawman. You're such a hostile little bugger.

The prevalent Orthodox view of Romans 11 is Dispensational. Can you even articulate it without spazzing out about British Israelites?
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>>522094442
>No, I won't accept any evidence!
I'd accept evidence from someone who isnt biased.
obviously there is a conflict of interest here where the jew priest who earns his living by lying to you will say whatever sounds best to you so you keep paying him.
>Then why did you make shit up about his height
why would a brown jew from israel be tall? most jews are manlets.
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>>522094029
How did the apostles "profit" from being impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed?
I can't wait to laugh at your ridiculous mental gymnastics.
Spiteful mutant reddit freak.
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>>522094616
Cope harder you little redditor freak: >>522094653
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>>522094590
>The prevalent Orthodox view of Romans 11 is Dispensational.
No it isn't. You don't have a clue what you are talking about! No clue at all!
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>>522093327
>memeflag OP with wall of text
that was a script, pic related was not
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>>522094703
Yes, it is. You can cope and seethe about it forever but it won't change a thing. Your ignorance combined with hostility is the reason we can't solve this today.
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>>522093308
christianity is fake and gay and so is judaism

Like all abrahamic zionist garbage that donald trump got your zoomer peers hooked on, including right-wingers that teach about judeo-christian values on youtube as if it's "red-pill" - these lies will not save you.
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>>522093308
>This religion thousands of years older than Coptic Christianity that was followed by millions of people around the world was fake and gay
Coping mechanisms for Jewish desert tricks.
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>>522094653
ever heard of a donation scam?
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>>522094773
You are a liar.
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>>522094845
Answer the question, lying little reddit freak.
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>>522075572

This dood is posting from hollow earth
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>>522094857
And you are a false accuser. Someone who sows discord between brethren. Can you, in one sentence, sum up what Romans 11 says about the Eschaton?
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>>522094918
based thx for redirecting me to the schizo post
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>>522094910
I did, the whole thing was most likely a jewish scam from the start so none of these jewish apostles suffered anything at all.
they just told some sob storys so retards join their religion and pay them.
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>>522094590
I don't need your endorsement and these are not my opinions. I'm merely conveying the undistorted and universal understanding of the Church through all time that has been passed down to us through the organic and living faith. If you believe the Orthodox Church is (and therefore means, it has always been) dispensationalist, I genuinely cannot help you. It is the exact opposite of what you are saying. This is a communication issue and those usually stem from pride, and a refusal to recognize one could be wrong. We also have a prevalence of armchair "academic theologians" who think they know God because they read about Him in a book, yet have a non-existent spiritual life. Lord have mercy.
To the Orthodox Church, a theologian is not a scholar, but one who has experienced God and become Holy, transfigured, healed. One who has experiential knowledge and wisdom. We know what this is because the Saints across all of the last 2000 years display this same transfigured knowledge. And even still, the Church has only ever officially honored three men with the title of Theologian. One of whom is St John the Apostle, author of the Apocalypse (Revelation).
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>>522094768
>33

You have no idea, do you?
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>>522094277
profoundly mexican-coded post
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>>522095073
And you refuse to give a 1-sentence-summary of your [Dispensational, erroneous] interpretation of Romans 11 so that I may demonstrate my case from your own words. That is pride.
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>>522095073
>knowledge and wisdom
I have never seen a christcuck write anything intelligent ever. like in 10+ years of /pol/ I have never encountered a christcuck where I'd say the guy had any knowledge and wisdom.
all these christcuck "people" are always massive dumbfucks and losers that dont know shit about anything and just shit up the board trying to recruit more idiots to their jew worship cult.
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>>522095167
I gave you far more than one sentence brother. Go back to my first reply to you. God bless.
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>>522095301
Not 1 time in this thread did you even attempt to explain your interpretation of Romans 11. You can't stop lying, why? What Spirit is that?
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>>522095301
>>522095381
>christcuck retards are so braindead they attack each other
nice religion you got there.
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>>522095247
Like I said, there is a prevalence of armchair "academic theologians". Also most people you interact with who call themselves christian are not Orthodox Christian. Not that you are likely to find a transfigured Orthodox Christian here, either. That's like looking for a michellin meal in a Mcdonalds.
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>>522093308
why are you samefagging >>>522091008
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>>522095495
Oh yeah, that's smart. Reply to the kike trolling your thread instead of me who is asking you a serious theological question.
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>>522095495
so you basically admit that its a religion that only creates dumb retards.
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>>522095560
I'm not jewish and I'm not trolling.
you religion just creates dumb people, has a dumb story and its surrounded by jews (which you allegedly hate?).
nothing about your jew worshipper beliefs makes any sense to anyone who isnt brainwashed by your cult.
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I'm gonna take a shower and get ready. If you haven't replied with your 1 sentence summary of Romans 11 so I can demonstrate the Dispensational error, then you should be ashamed
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>>522095560
First, you are a memeflag. You know the rules.
Second, I did respond to you. I don't know why you are getting angry. Please re-read my initial reply to you. I promise it was in fact responding to the chapter you referenced as well as you using the term Dispensationalism, from which context clues I responded to the prompt. But I also understand that talk only goes so far, and if it's not a good faith discussion nothing will come of it, and you would be better off in prayer. So I will not be continuing this, it will be fruitless; fruitless in the Christian sense of the word.
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>>522093308
Less gay than jew worship aka christkikery.
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>>522095827
hes probably a pajeet shill, as it turned out yesterday pajeets are pushing christianity a lot on twitter (and here probably too).
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>>522095597
No. I can't speak for other people who call themselves christian, because they are outside of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. But for those actual Orthodox Christians, you aren't likely to find a Saint here. You'd need to go to a monastery in the mountains, or find a grandma in a parish who has 10 kids, dozens of grandchildren, and never looked at the internet once in her life.
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>>522095143
>the omnipotent freemasons scripted this get as comms to Azrael
brown person
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>>522094768
Even if it was botted, that means the Christian script beat everyone else's, with God's help.
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>>522096086
the majority of christians today has brown skin, an IQ in the lower double digits and they all believe their own fantasy version of what they think is the one true religion.
you arent much different from them, just a different flavor of the same brainrot.
if you were truly intelligent you would see these religions as the scams that they are. but you are too brainwashed and coping too hard to ever figure this out.
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I like OrthoPepe.
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>>522096250
9 is more than 8, desu. Also you dress like druids
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>>522096284
>you arent much different from them, just a different flavor of the same brainrot.
This is your opinion and I contend you are missing information. You don't seem to know anything about Orthodoxy, it is completely different than any other so-called christianity because it is original Christianity. I challenge you not just to look it up online and form your opinions there (which you can start from there certainly), but to actually go to a service in person if you want to know what Orthodox Christians do and believe. Otherwise you will not only be gathering your information from mostly secondhand sources, you will be removing and separating the mystery of God that is found in the Church. Faith isn't just mental assent, it's not a purely intellectual engagement. It's not an ideology or philosophy. I mean this with no disrespect to you personally, but as a rule, judging something you don't understand is the opposite of wisdom, it is ignorance.
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>>522095247
>>522095448
>>522095597
>>522095651
On the contrary, I have never seen an anti-Christian heathencuck here write anything intelligent. Ever.
And you're further proof of that.

You're just a spiteful mutant throwing a temper tantrum at God because you're a failure and a loser:

>The mutant says in his heart, “there is no God”: the rejection of collective religiosity centred around the worship of moral Gods is associated with high mutational load
archive.vn/aNzyf

Heathencucks like you ought to be barred from public life altogether, for the good of society.

Christians are healthier, happier, more social, stronger, more charitable, superior in every way to spiteful mutant basement-dwelling neckbeard losers like you who failed at life and are seething about it.
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>>522095035
>none of these jewish apostles suffered anything at all.
LOL
Prove your claim, lying little reddit freak.
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>>522095597
No, it produces the best and the brightest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology
Anyone on this list is infinitely smarter than you'll ever be.
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The only thing I can think when I read a post like this is,
>I wonder if I can get more (You)s by connecting two fairly scattered ideas to get more people upset.
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>>522095651
>you're in a cult!
>says the brainwashed redditor
Heathencucks never fail to amaze with their astounding stupidity.
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Account based in: Hindustan.
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>>522096860
On the surface I agree and I can chuckle at it. But in reality, both of these ideologies pushed by mainstream secular globohomo cancer culture are dead ends; spiritual controlled opposition, if you will.
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>>522096284
>scams
How did the apostles profit from being impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed for proclaiming the resurrection of the Lord?
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>>522094768
>pic related was not
Where's your proof?
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>>522096712
>judging something you don't understand
I understand it very well, these jew made religions are scams that only exist to keep you poor and mentally enslaved to a system from which jews profit.
its not rocket sciencem, its a scam and you are getting scammed. so how smart can a guy like you be if he falls for the most obvious scams?
>>522096778
>“there is no God”
I never said there is no God, feel free to read all my posts again before making shit up.
>Christians are
apparently illiterate.
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>>522093308
The goal of both is ultimately the same, Buddhism simply provides the tools to achieve Christhood with.
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abrahamic religions all root from the same Canaanite polytheist tribal shit. Yahweh was part of a pantheon with El, Asherah (his wife), Baal and Anat. Apparently there was also a god of death Mot but Anat killed him or something. It's an ancient mythology not unlike any other. The whole idea of taking just one God to represent everything came from Canaanite exposure to Zoroastrians. They then went and retconned their god family to all just be one now. This is why Israel, "the rule of El" actually isn't named after Yahweh. Shouldn't it "Yahweh's Kingdom" or whatever? Because El was a fucking different guy, the leader of the council of gods. The entire thing presented to as >it's holy an infallible because, because it just IS okay!?!? Is pure bullshit.

The average Christian/Muslim/Jew doesn't know that Yahweh has a history as rich and real as the fucking marvel cinematic universe and actually God had a wife and Baal is "a demon" only because he and Yahweh were both storm gods and I guess the ancient proto gods got into a Batman vs Superman fight about which one was cool enough to get upgraded in the lore as all powerful. Many things you see in the old testament is retconned stories all now rebranded as Yahweh's Adventures. So what does that make Jesus? IMO not even really of the same god the Jews worship. Shit is all fake and fucked, not worth wasting time and energy on besides to learn it just to geek out over ancient legends shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U

tldr: abrahamicucks are worshipping a re-branded tribal storm and war god
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God touched the very primordial Earth and then sprang life.
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>>522097196
Yahwe was never considered the creator of the universe. He was literally a local jewish deity. When Judaism came around, the "gods" people were talking about were Ba'al Hadad, Marduk, and others of that nature.

There's a lot written about how Judaism came to worship a single monotheistic god, but the general story is that in the bronze age, every nation had their own local deity. This is very clear in the Tanach because it talks about some of these other deities, Chemosh, Milchom, etc. The Jewish local deity was Yahweh.

Judaism also, early in its mythology stole from the Canaanite mythos in which there was a single creator god, El in the Ugaritic tablets, who apportioned each nation to its patron deity. A version of this story still survives in Ha'azinu, but it's been corrupted (the original exists in the Samaritan and Septuagint versions). Wars therefore were wars between deities. When you defeated another kingdom, its because your god was stronger.

The big Jewish development occurred in the southern kingdom of Judah, during both Hezekiah and Josiah's reigns. As a means of centralizing power, the kings sought to remove local shrines and places of worship and center everything in Jerusalem. In doing so they also declared the Jewish god, Yahweh, supreme. They justified this by declaring that El, the creator god, was actually Yahweh all along. This is exactly what the burning bush story is all about. As time went on, Yahweh's powers grew and he started absorbing other deities, so you see aspects of Ba'al, and Inanna and others in Yahweh.

The abrahamic religions in general are the result of plagiarism. Just stolen ancient stories which were edited to control the minds of the ignorant peasants. This is the exact reason why they all emerged from the middle east. Because they took the stories of The Sumerians, Babylonians, Akkadians, Assyrians and The Canaanites and edited them.

I recognize the abrahamic desert cults as the spiritual trap they are
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>>522097256
Judaism is the merging of a primitive pagan midianite volcano god (yahweh) and the high god of the pagan canaanite pantheon (el). Pre Babylonian exile jews were polytheistic yahwehist savages who sacrificed first born babies TO yahweh and asherah among others.
During and post exile jews then blatantly plagiarised and retconned the code of Hammurabi, Babylonian creation myths and Persian Zoroastrian concepts. Post exile they plagiarised middle Platonism during the Greek Seleucid hegemony. Everything they stole was then retconned and bastardised through the lens of collective jewish malignant narcissism.before being scrambled together in the Greek septuagint in Alexandria circa 300BCE. Therein jews projected their own sordid savage religious practices onto foreign gods, foreign peoples, "pagans" and "apostates" in quintessential jewish fashion. Jews steal everything, corrupt it and then claim provenance while projecting their own savagery onto others.. They are a nation of thieves and liars and those vices extend to their own retarded retconned creed, history and mythos.
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>>522096809
>Prove your claim
its a jewish scam religion that is getting promoted by jews and is all about jews.
so why wouldnt it be a scam? everything that is connected to jews is a scam, this includes all jew made religions.
>>522096834
lots of very obvious jews on that list. jews switching between judaism, christianity and islam isnt really anything new tho
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>>522095827
>I did respond to you. I don't know why you are getting angry. Please re-read my initial reply to you.
Your initial reply:
-"The Orthodox Church taught an interpretation of Romans 11 for the first 1000 years" (Lie)
-"The Church is Israel"
-"LOL British Israelitism LOL"

I'm really disappointed in how much of a disingenuous coward you are. I asked you for a 1-sentence-summary of Romans 11 regarding the Eschaton. It remains unanswered. You should be ashamed and everyone should see it.
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>>522096877
never owned a reddit account and never posted there but keep coping.
>>522097027
the same way jews profit by retelling storys of the great holobunga and getting dumb cucks to pay for it.
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>>522097175
>that only exist to keep you poor and mentally enslaved to a system from which jews profit.
If your definition of enlightenment is being rich, I question your worldview. It is not very transcendental, and lacks answers to the most important questions. As for being mentally enslaved, this is a misapplication from other christian groups that are not the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. True freedom is freedom from sin, freedom from demonic enslavement. Most people today are hopelessly enslaved to passions, pleasures, endless vices perpetuated by the elites to dumb people down into cattle, but on a deeper level, to separate them from God. Again I think you would benefit from exposure to original Christianity.
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>>522093308
Its true. You gotta worship and submit to the jews and the god of israel. Stop worshipping filthy goyim pagan demons. Only the god of israel and his chosen people are legit.
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>>522095885
>christkikery
A self-contradictory term. Kike means anti-Christian, you stupid heathencuck.
>The word kike was born on Ellis Island when there were Jewish migrants who were also illiterate (or could not use Latin alphabet letters). When asked to sign the entry-forms with the customary "X", the Jewish immigrants would refuse, because they associated an X with the cross of Christianity. Instead, they drew a circle as the signature on the entry-forms. The Yiddish word for "circle" is kikel (pronounced KY - kel), and for "little circle", kikeleh. Before long the immigration inspectors were calling anyone who signed with an "O" instead of an "X" a kikel or kikeleh or kikee or, finally and succinctly, kike.
Why are heathencucks so stupid? Or are they just addicted to lying without any shame?
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>>522093308
Lmao, sorry, couldn’t resist
https://dropmefiles.com/oKKPC
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>>522097181
Syncretism is a heresy, and it's also a denial of truth. You can't hold two conflicting ideas at the same time and call it the truth (i.e. most fundamental doctrines of buddhism and Christianity, such as creation for example)
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>>522093308
Except evolution can be demonstrated within a persons lifetime.. Look up domesticated foxes in russia. Over just a few generations of foxes, they started to develop different physical features closer to dogs. It's pretty real. I think.
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>>522097175
So what's your religion?
If none, you're irreligious, and the negative stats apply.
Let's hear it, heathencuck.
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>>522097382
>If your definition of enlightenment is being rich
never said it is, but christianity is a poverty cult. if you are poor its seen as good, if you are rich or have assets it means you must be evil.
of course the dumb cultist wants to score some points here so he stays poor and gives all his shit to the scammers.
its also basically communism where the pope/the church/the party owns everything and you are his poorfag slave.
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>>522097521
>So what's your religion?
I dont need a religion to believe in a God.
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>>522097196
>>522097256
>>522097286
None of this is true, but heathencucks love lying.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F7ngjtT43-4
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>>522097302
Calling me names isn't going to make me do what you want. If you want an answer to that question specifically, you should ask an Orthodox priest. You have never done this.
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>>522097291
>lots of very obvious jews on that list.
LOL! Stupid heathencuck.
Apparently Englishmen, Frenchmen, etc. are all jews, according to the mentally retarded heathencuck.
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>>522097634
I'm asking you for a 1 sentence summary of the Orthodox Interpretation of Romans 11. I made the claim that it is Dispensational. You made the claim that it is not. That implies that you KNOW it. So say it.
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>>522097356
>never owned a reddit account
No one believes you, you lying little heathencuck.
Be honest, at what age did preddit groom you into hating Christianity?
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>>522097663
>Apparently Englishmen, Frenchmen, etc. are all jews
yep, a lot of jews among them, especially crypto jews. the entire peerage is basically a list of jews at this point since they married them all in over time.
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>>522097767
Yeah, all Europeans are jews.
Stupid heathencuck little rat.
This is why no one takes you lying clowns seriously.
Thanks for making Christianity look better by being such a stupid lying little heathencuck.
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>>522097740
I dont need some forum full of retards to tell me what my eyes and ears tell me, which is that your religion is a jewish scam, made by jews, funded by jews and from which jews profit all the time and which jews shill in the most scammy dishonest ways possible.
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>>522097602
>I dont need a religion
So you're an irreligious predditor, and the negative stats apply to you.
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>>522097697
dispensationalism is retarded. the gospel was preached to Abraham (Galatians 3:8) and the Israelites in the desert (Hebrews 4:2). there is no "dispensation of grace" separate from the promises to abraham.
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>>522097843
>Thanks for making Christianity look better
its still the same brown circumcised jewish manlet worshipper cult that it was before this thread started.
nothing changed and I doubt you will recruit anyone here for your scam.
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>>522097896
>scam
How did the apostles profit from being impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed?
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>>522097534
>its seen as good
Being seen as good is not the point, it's not about appearances or externalization. There is wisdom in not having attachments, living simply. All things taught by original Christianity are for the benefit of us human beings in attempting to heal our broken souls. These teachings, and the practices of the Church, are tools to bring us closer to God and father away from enslavement to the passions. Moreover, you are treating this idea strictly in a materialistic sense, as if there is no metaphysical reality, and as if God is not a person who knows your intentions. This is why I said to go to an Orthodox service, because you cannot separate the reality of God from faith. I don't disagree with you that many institutions and the globohomo entity especially uses control mechanisms like this to enslave people. But intentionality matters. Theirs is evil.

God bless you.
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>>522093308
REMINDER:
tranny dyer's content is NOT recommended by 97% of OCA clergy.
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>>522097356
How does getting impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed "profit" a person materially?
The heathencuck little peanut mind is fascinating.
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>>522097911
thats just cope. truth is God has nothing to do with brown circumcised jewish manlets nailed to crosses or any other nonsense that people/jews made up over the years.
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>>522098041
>thats just cope.
Stats aren't cope, you stupid little heathencuck.
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>>522097959
tell storys how you are impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed and collect donations from dumb fucks.
its very simple.
do I have to repeat it a 5th time for you? do people have to repeat themselves a lot for you?
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>>522097928
I am not a Dispensationalist. I am claiming that the Orthodox Church holds a dispensationalist interpretation of Romans 11. Aka I am saying that their interpretation of Romans 11 is wrong.
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>>522097507
If you follow a Hebrew religion you need to understand Hebrew beliefs. The Genesis story is not literal, it's symbolic of the spirits descent into a physical body where the world is perceived in a dual nature i.e. being cast out of Eden after eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil which is then blocked by the flaming sword. The tree of life is within and the path of the flaming sword is re-traced back up the tree to achieve the non-dual state which is what Buddhism calls "enlightenment". The halo behind the heads of monks that symbolizes their enlightenment is also found in Christian art for this reason. The Zohar is clear that the true nature of reality is purely Ayin, in Buddhism this is just known as emptiness.
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>>522097697
I already answered you. Ask a priest if you want a deeper or better answer.
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>>522098041
>made up
Why would jews make up a story that gets them impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed?
>over the years
The Corinthian creed dates to days within the Resurrection, little heathencuck.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qZ19K_W0qA4
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>>522098157
You did not answer. You're afraid to answer because your own words will condemn you. I can quote a Orthodox Priest right now that gives this erroneous interpretation: John Whiteford
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>>522097507
The tree of life is found all over the world with the same meaning by the way. Some examples include Yggdrasil and the Crann Bethadh, druids met under Oak trees in honor of it. Picrel is the Sumerian version.
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>>522097962
>There is wisdom in not having attachments, living simply.
just own nothing and be happy, if you really believe this I have some bugs to sell to you.
>All things taught by original Christianity are for the benefit of us human beings
like endless shitskin imports?
>God is not a person
God is not a person, was never a person and will never be a person.
he wont spawn as a brown jewish manlet in the middle east or speak through a burning bush to a jew or tell a jew to amputate his dick.
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>>522098107
You can't square a circle unless you have a blind spot to contradictions. This is called prelest.
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>>522098099
name 2 bishops with that view
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>>522098183
>Why would jews make up a story
to make money. are you dumb?
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>>522097959
>How did the apostles profit from being impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed?

>impoverished
topkek
1 corinthians 9:3-6
>This is my defense to those who scrutinize me: Have we no right to food and to drink?
>Have we no right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas?
>Or are Barnabas and I the only apostles who must work for a living?
This implies that the other apostles did not work. So what how did they survive? from the donations from galatia, macedonia, acaia, etc.
>impoverished
lmao
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>>522098273
Name 1 that doesn't. First of all, we need to clarify what we are even talking about. Are you willing to offer your 1-sentence-summary of Romans 11?
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>>522098247
What is God according to you, totally-not-a-crypto-atheist heathencuck predditor?
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>>522098211
I said ask a priest yourself, not quote from one. This isn't a debate. If you asked the question with the intention of interrogating and debating me, then your motives were insincere and I already told you about 5 replies ago that I am not continuing this conversation. Goodbye.
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>>522098339
you probably need to repeat this another 50 times to the retard who cant figure out why a jew would make up storys to get donations from gullible idiots.
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>>522098382
>I said ask a priest yourself, not quote from one.
Then what are you here for?
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>>522098247
God bless you friend, you are bumping my thread so much, even you don't understand how you do God's work
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>>522098379
>What is God according to you
God is the universe itself
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>>522098291
>to make money.
How exactly does being impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed "make you money", you dumb little heathencuck? Please describe your cope in detail.
It's so funny to watch you little freaks squirm in the tangle of your lies.
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>>522098382
I told you to come up with a non-Dispensationalist interpretation of Romans 11. I offered to help. You claimed you already had one and refused to say what it is. You should be ashamed for your pride.
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>>522098465
anons will read my posts and come to the same conclusion as I did.
that christianity is a jewish scam, made by jews, shilled by jews and helping the jews to do their bidding. this is very obvious to anyone who isnt retarded.

>>522098470
>being impoverished, persecuted, tortured, and killed
these things never happened, jews just pretend they did and tell storys so they can farm pity from retards who believe it and who give them money.
do you really not understand how a donation scam works? you cant be this dumb.
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>>522098339
How does this entail that the apostles weren't impoverished, you stupid little heathencuck?
>>522098404
Heathencuck sycophant needs to back up the lies of his fellow little heathencuck.
Funny thing is we both know you didn't even read it.
How does being persecuted, tortured, and killed constitute a "donation", exactly?
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>>522098460
I am certainly not here to be an authority on Orthodox theology. That's why I post the words of the Holy Fathers and let them speak for the Church. I can do a little but in the end I'm no one, just a servant and a representative. A poor one at that. In true wisdom it would be best to not say anything and focus on my own spiritual growth (which I do, at appropriate times according to my prayer rule and my spiritual father's guidance). Generally it's better not to say anything than to try to say poor words with good intentions. But at the same time, I am convicted in the belief that Orthodoxy is unknown to the Anglosphere and the West as a whole, and the original Church has answers to all of our ills. So to not spread this awareness is not an option for me
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>>522098468
KEK! The little lying reddit atheist rat finally admits the truth.
Why this elaborate ruse when you could've simply admitted it from the beginning?
Why are heathencucks addicted to lying?
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>>522098708
>tell fake sob story to retards
>retards believe it
>retards hand over money
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>>522093308
>new-age
Buddhism is older than Christianity. There were Buddhist Greeks before Jesus had even been born. Also evolution is real and can coexist with Christianity.
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>>522098478
I am ashamed of my pride. And in the same breath, I affirm that the Church is correct.
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Posting in a blessed thread.
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>>522098777
>when you could've simply admitted it from the beginning?
I told you from the beginning that christianity is a jewish scam and has nothing to do with God. nothing about God to be found in a jew made religion.
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>>522098640
>these things never happened
Prove it. All historians disagree with you.
But I'm sure you, enlightened atheist predditor who got your education from reading heathencuck greentexts on 4chan, know something they don't, right?
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>>522098271
The Catholic Church calls the Father "Deus-Pater". In truth this is a reference to Dyeus, the Indo-European Sky Father. In the Rig-Veda he goes by Dyaus-Pitr and is symbolic of the pure consciousness. His consort, Privthi, is symbolic of the pure energy that forms matter, therefore she can be thought of as Mother Earth, or as the Romans named her, "Terra-Mater". The English word "material" is derived from "materia" which contains "mater" in reference to their understanding of the feminine principle of what one can call God. The pure consciousness is what you align with to achieve enlightenment and what Jesus meant when he said "I and the Father are one". Remember, he told the Apostles that the reason he speaks to the people in parables is because the secrets of heaven aren't given to them, only to the apostles. This is one of those secrets.
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>>522098870
>Prove it.
they make the claim they have to provide the proofs.
>All historians disagree with you.
they get paid to lie. thats how it works.
>But I'm sure
you arent sure of anything, if you were you wouldnt worship a circumcised brown jewish man from israel.
someone with brains just wouldnt do that.
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>>522098770
>That's why I post the words of the Holy Fathers and let them speak for the Church.
post john chrysostom on john 4:22
>Orthodoxy is unknown to the Anglosphere and the West as a whole
why?
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>>522098858
saved pic
God bless you, are you really from Poland?
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One thing I notice about all the anti-Christian posters is that they never suggest a better faith or religion.The use low-iq reddit atheist tier arguments, claims with no evidence or just simply insults. They simply want you to stop being Christian and don't argue for a better faith or they simply want you to be a atheist. Literally the same tactics as the Jewish Bolsheviks.
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>>522098640
>anons will read my posts and come to the same conclusion as I did.
No they won't, LOL. Everyone sees how stupid your little heathencuck mental gymnastics are, and be repulsed by how disgusting your pathological lying is.
>scam
A scam that gets them persecuted, tortured, and killed. Right.
The heathencuck tiny little peanut brain truly is fascinating.
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>>522098837
You have made the claim that the Orthodox interpretation of Romans 11 is non-Dispensational and correct. OK, fine. WHAT IS IT? Why are you afraid of typing out the words?
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>>522098779
>living in poverty, persecution, torture, and execution
How would this materially benefit them, exactly? Do tell, little heathencuck.
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>>522093308
Why you're mad at Buddhism when those people unlike mainstream Christianity are practicing actual spirituality and are much more in touch with it than any other mainstream Christian who doesn't even pray properly just mumbles useless words and still wondering why his life is still shit
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>>522099057
>they never suggest a better faith or religion.
that whole concept is deeply flawed and all man made religions suck, its all trash.
also I have much worse things to say about judaism, islam and hinduism.
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>>522098968
I don't know what you're referring to with St John Chrysostom. A quick search yielded some commentary on the Samaritans worshipping God in ignorance. If you have a point to saying this you are welcome to post it.

Orthodoxy is unknown to the West because of historical reasons, and derivatives of historical reasons that can also be attributed to the Orthodox themselves. One example is the fact that under centuries of hostile occupation and being prevented from evangelizing, many Orthodox forgot how to evangelize and became insular. Metropolitan Saba points this out and criticizes this in immigrant-dominated communities.
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>>522099075
>gets them persecuted, tortured, and killed.
proofs any of this happened?
of course not.
all you got is a bunch of storys some jew wrote up and you decided that they must be true.
>>522099109
I guess you are simply too low IQ to understand how a donation scam works.
they arent actually tortured, persecuted or killed, they just larp that part.
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>>522099111
God doesn't promise your life will be perfect, instead He says you will suffer much tribulation, but in wisdom we know that fire tempers steel. But I don't have to tell you this, you live in Romania. It must be hard to live there and not be Orthodox.
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>>522093308
>basedience
newfag detected
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>>522099057
People talk about alternative religions all the time, usually paganism, and there's definitely solid arguments they use. You can LARP, but Jesus was jewish, and most of the ideas that killed Western civilization were derived from Christianity.
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>>522099111
>Why you're mad at Buddhism
because its a competing religion and all these religions compete for the same donations. if more people were to join buddhism then all the donations that would go to the christcuck church would go into the "wrong" pocket instead.
cant have that.
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>>522099057
I have literally never heard anyone unironically argue for paganism beyond saying "i worship my own people's gods instead of dead jew on a stick"
So in my experience it's the same as picrel.
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>>522098339
>>522098404
Funny how the lying heathencuck rat excluded this from that very same passage:
>But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ.

>But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast. For when I preach the gospel, I cannot boast, since I am compelled to preach. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel! If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me. What then is my reward? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make full use of my rights as a preacher of the gospel.

>Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.
Why did the heathencuck rat exclude this from their quote, I wonder?
Is it because heathencuck rats are perpetual liars and deceivers who hate the truth?
Yes. Anti-Christian heathencucks are liars and deceivers.
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>>522099240
>I don't know what you're referring to with St John Chrysostom
Don't play dumb, christnigger
Here:
>The words, For salvation is of the Jews, mean that every thing calculated to save and amend the world, the knowledge of God, the abhorrence of idols, and all other doctrines of that nature, and even the very origin of our religion, comes originally from the Jews. In salvation too He includes His own presence, which He says is of the Jews, as we are told by the Apostle, Of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came. See how He exalts the Old Testament, which He shows to be the root of every thing good; thus proving in every way that He Himself is not opposed to the Law.

>even the very origin of our religion, comes originally from the Jews
kek
Ok. Are protestants saved? Are they actually in contact with jesus?
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>>522099462
Got any examples of the arguments?

What part of Christianity destroyed the west? Also isn't the west mostly atheistic now?

And what exactly are the beliefs of paganism?
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>>522097697
>>522099100
From the Orthodox Study Bible's annotation on verse 11:25-27:
>The mystery which explains the unbelief of so many Jews is that the Gentiles are now being united to the remnant of the faithful Jews, and thus this body of believers together form the true Israel. (In Gal 6:15,16, St. Paul calls those "in Christ Jesus" the "Israel of God," which is the Church.) This true Israel is not based on biological ancestry but on faithfulness to God's Deliverer, the Messiah. In this understanding, all Israel will be saved (v. 26).
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>>522099471
People ignore the business aspect of religion which is why Christianity especially has gotten so bad. Protestant churches accepting LGBT gets them more parishioners. The Catholic Church supporting refugees and mass migration makes them look good for Latin Americans and Africans, the majority of their members.
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>>522099618
saul and barbaras were the ONLY apostles that did NOT use those rights, retard. The rest of the apostles WERE using those rights.
christniggers never fail to amuse.
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>>522099462
>most of the ideas that killed Western civilization were derived from Christianity.
Wrong, little heathencuck. They're derived from anti-Christianity.
Statistics don't lie. Heathens like you destroy Western civilization.
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>>522099619
I'm not reading your comment past the fourth word in it, which is an insult. You are speaking in bad faith.
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>>522098339
Paul was martyred by Nero himself for proclaiming the Gospel.
How would that materially benefit him? Do explain.
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>>522099749
*barnabas
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>>522099743
>People ignore the business aspect of religion
and thats a big mistake because all organized religion is basically a money making business that transfers the money out of your pocket into the pocket of some jew who claims to speak to God.
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>>522099427
>gets baited into my thread
>posts Holy Scripture, thinking this will upset me somehow
I don't understand. It's like when anons post this Icon, as if to be insulting. Why would I not want to see Christ's face? This Icon is incredible too.
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>>522099601
I've seen people breakdown the philosophy of specific pagan religions, and wanting to worship your own people's gods is a valid reason to practice a pagan religion. But if there's some super solid reason then please enlighten us. Why do you worship Jesus? How is your belief in a jew from the Middle East more valid?
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>>522099740
Thank you for at least trying to weigh in. My argument:
1. Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 & Romans 2:28-29 says they are not Jews. That annotation immediately flies in the face of that.
2. This interpretation presents TWO people of God with TWO different plans (which is the definition of Dispensationalism). The TWO people would be "spiritual Israel" and "physical Israel".

I know this is devastating news. But I have a 100% coherent solution to this. It further solidifies the fact that Christians are Israel.
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>>522099809
Will you add the quote to your "based and redpilled" collection?
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>>522098864
You're a lying atheist, retard.
Shut the fuck up.
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>>522098966
You made a claim so prove it.
>they get paid to lie.
Prove that as well.
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>>522100100
>Shut the fuck up.
I will never shut up about how your religion is a jewish scam.
>>522100128
>Prove that as well.
I dont have to. I can already see from the incoherent jewish story that endorses circumcision that its all a scam.
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>>522099911
>scammer sentenced to death
>How would that materially benefit him?
Are you serious?
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>>522099136
Religious people are healthier, happier, more social, stronger, more charitable, superior in every way to spiteful mutant basement-dwelling neckbeard losers like you who failed at life and are seething about it.

If anything, irreligious freaks like you should be thrown in prison for the good to society. By a consequentialist perspective.
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>>522100007
>wanting to worship your own people's gods is a valid reason to practice a pagan religion.
This has nothing to do with the truth, and only to do with personal preferences.

Jesus Christ has the most historical evidence backing up His presented theology. Beyond that, He's just true. Step into an Orthodox Church and it's immediately obvious there is more than what you can see and touch. Most people don't get that far though, they let arguments and, again, personal preference, stop them from actually challenging themselves. That is not even to mention the reality that demons exist.
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>>522099136
www.hoover.org/research/religious-faith-and-charitable-giving
>Religious Faith and Charitable Giving

>The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent)... For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.

www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving
>Less God, Less Giving: Religion and generosity feed each other in fascinating ways

>In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious.

givingusa.org/just-released-giving-usa-special-report-on-giving-to-religion/
>Giving USA Special Report on Giving to Religion

>People who are religiously affiliated are more likely to make a charitable donation of any kind, whether to a religious congregation or to another type of charitable organization. Sixty-two percent of religious households give to charity of any kind, compared with 46 percent of households with no religious affiliation.

>Religiously affiliated households give as much or more to other types of charities as non-religiously affiliated households do.
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>>522100221
>Religious people are healthier
nah they're somewhat delusional
Let's start:
What is your sect? And are the other christian sects saved?
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>>522099136
www.pewforum.org/2019/01/31/religions-relationship-to-happiness-civic-engagement-and-health-around-the-world/
>Religion’s Relationship to Happiness, Civic Engagement and Health Around the World

>People who are active in religious congregations tend to be happier and more civically engaged than either religiously unaffiliated adults or inactive members of religious groups, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of survey data from the United States and more than two dozen other countries.

>This analysis finds that in the U.S. and many other countries around the world, regular participation in a religious community clearly is linked with higher levels of happiness and civic engagement (specifically, voting in elections and joining community groups or other voluntary organizations).
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>>522100221
>Religious people are healthier
you dont sound healthy and can a circumcised penis really be called something healthy?
can a religion that advocates for circumcusion be seen as something that is healthy?
no.
>happier
you dont sound happy at all, you are seething at all times. especially when smarter people like me come around that show your jew worship religion is a scam.
>more social
your social circle is most likely people that are as dumb as you or dumber.
>stronger
stronger in what way?
>more charitable
donate everything you own to the church or you go to hell. share your house with 40 christian niggers from africa. NOW!
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>>522100086
I didn't read it, so how could I do that?
I do have an Orthodox based and redpilled image folder though
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>>522099136
Religious participation is positively correlated with charitable behavior.

Less God, Less Giving - Philanthropy Roundtable
Religion and generosity feed each other in fascinating ways by Karl Zinsmeister
www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Giving USA Special Report on Giving to Religion
The Giving USA Special Report on Giving to Religion released on October 24, 2017, was researched and written by the Lake Institute on Faith & Giving at the Indiana University Lilly Family School of Philanthropy with support from the Giving USA Foundation™.
givingusa.org/just-released-giving-usa-special-report-on-giving-to-religion

Religious Faith and Charitable Giving
www.hoover.org/research/religious-faith-and-charitable-giving
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>>522099687
Feminism, multiculturalism, mass immigration, and even jewish influence are all from Christianity. A lot of early feminism was justified with Christian ethics, the stranglehold zionism has on American protestantism is well documented, and multiculturalism/mass immigration comes from Christian universal morality. Keep in mind that all these poisonous ideas got their start when America and the West was still overwhelmingly Christian.

As for paganism, the beliefs vary depending on the religion, and I'm really not an expert, but they're generally more ethnocentric and encourage stronger aspects of humanity as opposed to Christianity which venerates weakness.
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>>522099136
https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62799-7/fulltext

Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life (even during terminal illness) and less anxiety, depression, and suicide.
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>>522099136
www.forbes.com/sites/nicolefisher/2019/03/29/science-says-religion-is-good-for-your-health/#445372e43a12
>Science Says: Religion Is Good For Your Health

>There is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way. For example, researchers at the Mayo Clinic concluded, “Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life (even during terminal illness) and less anxiety, depression, and suicide. Several studies have shown that addressing the spiritual needs of the patient may enhance recovery from illness.

>That said, the lack of knowledge linking religious behaviors and health is fascinating given that health care is deeply rooted in religious institutions, and vice versa. In fact, it was religious organizations that built many of the first hospitals, and clergy (supplementing low church wages) were often practicing physicians and medical providers.

>80% of research on spirituality/religiousness and health focuses on mental health. This is because most associations with faith are related to how one thinks about the world and their role in it. Words that are often associated with religious beliefs include connectedness, hope, optimism, trust and purpose. All of which have been shown to boost mental health. Compassion, forgiveness and gratefulness are also qualities that are strongly associated with individuals who are spiritual and religious. Practicing these qualities is thought to be associated with deceased stress and increased resiliency.

>Interestingly, although religion and spirituality correlate to an external locus of control (God as a higher power in control of our destiny), most research concludes that those who are religious have a strong internal sense of control.
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>>522100020
>with TWO different plans
what are the two plans that the annotation suggests? the only Israel that is saved is the Church, not the physical descendants, and that's consistent with the annotation
>I know this is devastating news. But I have a 100% coherent solution to this. It further solidifies the fact that Christians are Israel.
sophmoric rhetoric
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>>522100323
only dumb people donate their money
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>>522100390
>I didn't read it, so how could I do that?
But you did read it. Don't lie, christnigger.
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>>522099136
researcherslinks.com/current-issues/The-Wager-Renewed-Believing-in-God-is-Good-for-You/9/5/42/html
>The Wager Renewed: Believing in God is Good for You

>For example, consider the conclusion of a meta-analysis published by panelists for the National Institute of Healthcare Research:

>The vast majority of studies report that religion has salubrious effects on health. Indeed, beyond case-reports and samples of fewer than 10 people, we have found no evidence that religion can harm health in representative samples of community residents or in systematically sampled clinical populations….We believe that the state of the evidence probably reflects reality…the dominant pattern is one in which religious involvement either has no effect or has positive effects on health. (George et al. 2000, 110).
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>>522099766
>The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
I'm other words, "Refugees Welcome"
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>>522100397
>being poorer is actually more gooder goyim!
kek I cant imagine how Low IQ someone has to be to buy this shit.
>>522100425
>coping skills
kek no doubt
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Also on point I never seen argued on here is that Paganism historically wasn't anti jew. Quite the opposite. The only time pagan Rome did anything against Jews was when they tried to revolt against the Roman government. Other than that, They weren't legally oppressed and even recognized as a religion and were exempt from Roman pagan sacrifices. The only time there actually religiously oppressed was when Rome converted to Christianity. And to further prove this point, The first Pagan emperor since Rome converted to Christianity, Julian. Julian literally helped Jews by helping them build the third temple all in order to spite Christians to which failed due to it coincidentally burning down every time they tried to build it.
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>>522100487
>>522100451
woah the jewish forbes magazine says religion is good and giving money to jews is healthy?
top kek
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>>522100477
God knows I didn't lie.
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>>522100323
>>522100365
>>522100397
>>522100425
>>522100451
>>522100487
>studies
Ok post a study that determined the most religious christian group by race.
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>>522100452
The TWO different plans are that the Eschaton will usher in a mass conversion of "physical Israel" (Plan A), while the intermediate period will be a mass conversion of Gentiles (Plan B).
>sophomoric rhetoric
I'd be a lot more concerned with the fact that you are a Dispensationalist than taking nonsensical jabs about me. How is telling you that I have a coherent hermeneutic and offering to share it with you sophomoric?
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>>522100593
Julian the Apostate is the perfect example of a dude who just could not win and then exemplified the
>then pharaoh 's heart was hardened
meme
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>>522099400
I'm well aware of that and I'm not such a loyal Orthodox as it failed to offer me actual answers to my questions and actual spiritual experiences like leaving my own body which happened several times to me both from my own will and randomly. I've seen how the mainstream Christianity had been turning people into scared dependent on mercy worthless spirits separating them from divinity and God.
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>>522099986
>I don't understand. It's like when anons post this Icon, as if to be insulting. Why would I not want to see Christ's face? This Icon is incredible too.
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>>522100910
>leaving my own body which happened several times to me both from my own will and randomly
These are called prelest, and the wisdom of the Orthodox Fathers would tell you that these are false signs.
If you insult people for being "dependent on mercy" then you insult the meek. But Christ says Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. If your worldview is merciless, what value is it?
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>>522100280
>Jesus Christ has the most historical evidence backing up His presented theology.
There isn't any hard evidence that Jesus was divine if that's what you're implying.
>Step into an Orthodox Church and it's immediately obvious there is more than what you can see and touch.
So it feels real? That means your belief in Jesus is as irrational as a pagan's belief in Jupiter.
>one must disregard doubts
The truth doesn't fear questions
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>>522100920
I am uncircumcised despite being American and born not Orthodox. Of course Orthodox Christians haven't practiced circumcision ever, not for the whole 2000 year history. You are ignorant and don't know what you're talking about, it just makes you look like a fool.
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>>522100593
claudius prohibited jews from proselytizing and nero tortured crossjews.
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>>522099316
>>522099316
The martyrdom of Paul by Nero. Beheading.
The martyrdom of Peter by Nero. Crucifixion.
The martyrdom of James the Just by Ananus. Stoning.
The martyrdom of James, son of Zebedee, by Herod. Beheading.
And so on.
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>>522099749
So why didn't they, you lying little heathencuck rat?
We both know why you chose to EXCLUDE that text from your quote.
Filthy little heathencuck. You're a liar to the core, like your father the Devil.
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>>522101215
cool storys bro
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>>522100206
Yes. Answer the question, little heathencuck.
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Buddhism existed hundreds of years before Jesus was ever born. The first Buddha was a prince that abandoned his kingdom to attain freedom from the cycle of life and death. Jesus was a Jewish mystic that was said to be the only begotten son of YHWH, an Israelite storm god. The god of the old testament is the god of the new testament and the god of the old testament is an actual sandnigger demon.
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>>522101096
The evidence that He is divine is in the outplaying of history, both immediately around His time and perennially.

Orthodox Christians don't discourage questions ever, life is an ongoing catechism. What St Barsanuphius means are irrational doubts.

I also said it's not a feeling, it's reality. You call it irrational because you don't believe it, because A. you have no reference point, and B. you subscribe to a purely material, physicalistic worldview, in that the only things that exist are what you can see and what can be measured. This worldview is absurd because all of the most important things in the world cannot be seen or measured. Love, trust, brotherhood, wonder, faith, joy. I suppose you can try to measure joy and the like, but it's measuring physical responses, not the reality of the thing itself, which is invisible and intangible and only exists as a reality to people who feel and know it.
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>>522101215
>Filthy little heathencuck
lmao
just say the word that you actually want to say, crossjew
You said the apostles lived impoverished but they actually had rights to a jewess, food/drink, and to NOT work.
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>>522100513
I don't care about your eisegesis.
I have the hard statistics on my side.
See >>522099766 and pic.
Heanthencucks are the destroyers of Western civilization.
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>>522101312
The benefit ended when the jewish scammer was arrested by Roman authorities.
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>>522100189
You made specific claims, little heathencuck.
Now prove them.
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>>522100342
>nah
Yes. I have statistics. You have nothing. Because your heathencuck worldview is built on lies and muh feels.
>they're somewhat delusional
You're delusional. You're a stupid heathencuck in denial of the facts and data.
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>>522094440
>Mulak sal ah heem dubulak kharab putik!!
That's all I read
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>>522100378
You are dumb like every other heathencuck who posts here.
I already posted all the facts and statistics, which are on my side. You have nothing.
Dumb little heathencuck gets humiliated yet again.
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>>522100452
>>522099740
>>522093308
Whether it's pride or something else that's preventing you from asking me "What is the solution?", I will give part of it to you, for your benefit and the benefit of Christiandom. I'm heading to the gym. Part of the solution is this: "physical Israel" exists, but it is made up of approximately 7 billion people.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19331938
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>>522101838
answer the questions
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>>522101044
>These are called prelest, and the wisdom of the Orthodox Fathers would tell you that these are false signs.
They say that because they're part of a cult of control, when you do that with God in your mind and guidance that ain't no prelest
>If you insult people for being "dependent on mercy" then you insult the meek
I'm not trying to insult the people, I'm pointing out that it promotes low energy feelings which should be avoided for your own spiritual development, the more you fall into them the worse your life gets
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>>522100406
I fail to see how Christianity promotes feminism and mass immigration when the bible has clear defined gender roles and has verses about nation allowed to have and defend their border (Example Acts 17:26)

As for the Zionist hold on Protestantism, I do agree with you their and did have a part due to the decline of the west but historically, The only religions that are against Jews are Christianity and Islam, Paganism in itself isn't anti Jew.

I also agree that modern Christianity has been psyoped. In Medieval Europe, Jews were heavily oppressed by Christian rulers, and Christianity being the united faith of Europe at the time prevented a Muslim take over of Europe in the crusades. A feat that wouldn't of been possible without Christianity. If Europe was still pagan, they wouldn't of collaborated as much due to paganism being extremely tribal to even other Europeans. They points you do make are valid but towards modern Protestantism vs Christianity as a faith.
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>>522101477
>The evidence that He is divine is in the outplaying of history, both immediately around His time and perennially.
Can you elaborate? My evidence that paganism is real is that Rome fell after abandoning their gods for Jesus.
>I also said it's not a feeling, it's reality. You call it irrational because you don't believe it
If it wasn't irrational you could prove it logically, but you can't because it's a religion. No religion is rational, it's literally the belief in things that can't be proven. And that's fine, but it also means that there's no hard evidence that Christianity is real, and if you strip that away, you'll find that it really isn't very solid philosophically, especially in the West's current situation.
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>>522101096
There's plenty of evidence.
Heathencucks like you are just obstinate because you don't WANT to accept that Christianity is true.
Most likely due to preddit and pop-culture anti-Christian brainwashing.

https://youtube.com/watch?v= 12syh8dPOto

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzklRPDfAj0

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/scholarly-writings

https://laurazpowell.org/blog/just-the-facts-maam-the-minimal-facts-argument-for-the-resurrection-of-jesus

>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the dead. If someone wants to dispute this, they must deal with the evidence, including the criteria for historical reliability, and offer some reason why this explanation falls short or provide a better explanation for the facts.
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>>522101988
>when you do that with God in your mind and guidance
what you mean is "by my own guidance and what I think is God"
> low energy feelings
Are you implying high energy feelings are good? That sounds like passions.
Are you familiar with the Charismatic Christian movement in America? Look it up on youtube if you're not. People who think they're Christian, think they're following God, but end up rolling on the floor, crying, screaming, throwing up, lots of theatrics, basically what any Orthodox would see as literal demonic possession. That is prelest.
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>>522101198
>nero tortured crossjews
So you admit your heathencuck friend ITT is wrong about the Christians not being tortured?
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>>522101303
They're historical facts. I can tell you're butthurt because everyone can see you're getting humiliated.
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>>522101411
YHWH means "I am".
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>>522101620
>You said the apostles lived impoverished
And that's correct. Dumb heathencuck.
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>>522101411
>Buddhism existed hundreds of years before Jesus was ever born.
Lol no
Buddha didn't exist till at least 500 years after Jesus was gone
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>>522101848
Are you going to pretend the languages ישוע משיחא spoke are beautiful European ones?
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>>522101198
I'll give you Claudius but Nero tolerated Jews.

>>522102103
>My evidence that paganism is real is that Rome fell after abandoning their gods for Jesus.

Then what about the Byzantine empire? They were Christian and was one of the longest lasting empires in history.
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>>522101620
Impoverished people don't exist and can never exist, because if someone has access to some form of food/drink, i.e. can stay alive, it's not poverty.
Brilliant. Just brilliant.

The abysmal stupidity and/or insincerity of heathencucks never ceases to amaze me. I mean that sincerely.
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>>522102103
>Rome fell after abandoning their gods for Jesus.
Rome didn't fall for another one thousand years. And another thing to consider is that the Visigoths and the Vandals that sacked Rome and the Western half were predominantly Arians. In other words, they adhered to Arianism, which was a condemned heresy.

>you could prove it logically
What you mean by this is prove it according to your definition of materialist logic. My logic is obvious. I feel God because God is real. A follows B. That is completely logically consistent.
But again, this strays too far into the realm of purely intellectualizing it. You ever referred to it as a philosophy, which it is not. Religion doesn't exist as a social tool, or as a self-help lifestyle to improve your life or your culture. Christianity is the answer to creation, the meaning of life, and human destiny.
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>>522102223
No, I mean by God's guidance, you know the quote ask and you shall receive
>Are you implying high energy feelings are good? That sounds like passions.
Yes, God is the highest possible energy pure, unconditional love, light, and peace when you embody them you resonate with God you get closer with God, what you said are not high energies they're low which are dragging you down making your life worse.
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>>522101713
Heathencuck stupidity strikes again.
Nero beheaded Paul for not recanting his faith.
How does it materially benefit Paul to persist in his faith to the point of death? Please explain.
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>>522102460
The roman catholic pope is an antichrist
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>>522096086
>to be a good christian you have to have zero participation in modern society
>but christianity is the solution for fixing modern society
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>>522102819
Where did you get that from? Saint grandma in my post you replied to isn't just participating in society, she literally spawned society
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>>522102074
You raise a good point. Europe would've certainly fallen to Islam if not for Christendom.

In school, they teach the Crusades but not the multiple Islamic incursions into Europe. Curious.
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>>522102103
>My evidence that paganism is real is that Rome fell after abandoning their gods for Jesus.
1. That's a non sequitur.
2. They didn't.
Why are heathencucks so stupid?
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>>522102103
>there's no hard evidence that Christianity is real
There's plenty of evidence. You're just obstinate.
>>522102172
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>>522102501
>Then what about the Byzantine empire?
They were Greek and Greeks are just built different. The HEATHEN Alexander the Great took over the entire known world.
>>522102625
>Rome didn't fall for another one thousand years.
If you're talking about the Byzantines, they were Greek, so they weren't a true continuation of the Roman Empire, and as previously stated, Greeks are built different.
>My logic is obvious. I feel God because God is real.
Then every religion is real because everyone who is devoutly religious feels that their god is real. Also every religion isn't real because everyone who doesn't believe it doesn't feel it.
>You ever referred to it as a philosophy, which it is not.
>Christianity is the answer to creation, the meaning of life, and human destiny.
Huh, that sounds kind of like a philosophy. Religion exists to fulfill people's spirituality and there is a philosophical aspect to that.
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>>522102901
Saint grandma in your post lives in the mountains, doesn't know what the internet is, and probably doesn't pay taxes. That's good for her and anyone else lucky enough to be born in such an environment, but the rest of us who are stuck in a jewish elite dominated hellscape aren't so lucky. I can't in good conscience or good faith run away to the mountains with saint grandma when the city's on fire. Society doesn't have to be this terrible place for people to live, but it will continue to be just that so long as good men keep retreating to the mountains.
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>>522102726
The BASED Orthodox Church is currently burning resources expanding into Africa, so I give it a few more decades until it's as cucked as the Catholic Church.
>>522102996
>Doesn't realize that I wasn't being serious and was trying to prove a point.
Why are christcucks so stupid?
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>>522103131
Ok but that's isn't really a great argument to the fact that Christianity was the cause of the collapse of the Roman empire. There were other long lasting Christian empires that weren't Greek. Holy Roman Empire, Spanish Empire, Portuguese Empire, British Empire, Russian Empire and the French Colonial Empire.
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>>522102726
The official name for the East Orthodox Church is literally the Orthodox Catholic Church
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>>522103346
>Saint grandma in your post lives in the mountains
I didn't say that lol.
Look up Fr Seraphim Rose. He did become a monastic and retreat to the desert, but not before living in the world and experiencing the jewish hellscape you describe.
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>>522103462
Yes, because the Orthodox are the true catholics, according to the meaning of the word. Roman Catholicism just made the word Catholic a brand.
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>>522102428
>Another muzzie flag abullalalalalalalalal
You are all shitskins until you post face, arm and hand next to milk, ham and with timestamp
Twitter has exposed all of you as fake and gay
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>>522103599
By catholic, do you mean universal?
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>>522101875
>I already posted all the facts and statistics
>muh jewish statistics
lol
>>522101848
shitskin immigrant in USA?
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>>522103131
>The HEATHEN Alexander the Great took over the entire known world.
How long did his empire last?
12 years.
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>>522103563
>just run away from your problems and be meek and poor and shit
cool religion you got there.
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>>522103131
I don't think you understand that much about Eastern Roman civilization and that it literally is just Roman, to the point that the Ottomans were calling them Romans in the year 1453.

Feelings deceive, but knowledge is real. And we don't live in neutral ground here. False spiritual experiences obviously exist. The proof is the lives of the Saints. They are transfigured, truly healed, human beings. The fruits of the other religions are failures, because the tree that grows those fruits is wrong.
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>>522093308
>the kike god demands that you be a good goy and feel shame, guilt and fear
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>>522103825
>all the other religions are wrong but mine about the circumcised jewish brown man must be totally true, I couldnt ever be wrong in my delusions!
kek
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>>522097181
>The goal of both is ultimately the same, Buddhism simply provides the tools to achieve Christhood with.

No, you moron.

What spirituality does Hindu/Buddhist/New Age have ?
They meditate and go "inward", they are self-centred.

The notion is that a person is a spirit being, indestructible, immortal (the soul lives on after bodily death). Mom and dad playing hide-the-sausage cannot create a spirit being, only God can.

Ok, so how can you have a spiritual experience in yourself, without God.

The only valid, true spiritual practice is to seek Him Who created your spirit. That means going "out" not "in". That means God-centred, not self-centred.
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>>522103428
Christianity was more like a bandaid on a much bigger problem, that being diversity. The Empire was plagued by immigration in its latter stages, and as it became more diverse, Christianity spread and was eventually adopted in a desperate attempt to unite the people. Effectively, Christianity was conducive to the multicultural society that Rome had become. If Rome had realized the issue sooner and stopped the immigration floodgates, doubling down on their national identity instead, they would've likely survived much longer.
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>>522093308
Yahweh will never be El no matter how much you Abrahamists cope and seethe otherwise.
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>>522103675
In basic terms, yes. Though semantics can twist anything. But largely, the idea of the Church being catholic is the same in roman catholicism and Orthodoxy. They're just wrong about their Church. Their being wrong doesn't have so much to do with the word catholic.
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>>522103727
>statistics are jewish
Your brain on heathencuckoldry.
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>>522103823
>45pbtid
thanks for bumping my thread by your incessant seething, and I really do mean that, thank you. God bless you
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>>522103636
José Luis, you do know that the Middle Eastern rabbi you worship had the same skin color you accuse me of being, right?
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>>522103563
Looks comfy, but how does this lifestyle address the society problem? You're just ceding more ground to satanic elites for them to further dominate. It's the same problem with well meaning whites retreating to suburbs and letting cities decay
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>>522103811
Alexander's Empire was shortlived but it's influence was far reaching. The longest and last dynasty of ancient Egypt was Greek because of him. And Rome was built by pagans over hundreds of years and didn't even survive a century of Christianity.
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>>522103991
>statistics are jewish
from forbes? for sure.
so (You), a jew worshipper shows me jew sources that support his jewish claims. why would I believe them?
wont work for me.
>>522104005
>thanks for bumping my thread
no problem, people need to see that christianity is a jewish slave religion.
>God bless you
thanks
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>>522098945
>In truth this is ...
You know the truth ?
You are higher than the Catholic Church ?
How precious
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>>522104130
cope
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>>522104087
His monastery, Platina monastery, to this day continues the work he started, which is to translate monumental works of the Holy Fathers into English. His teachings have helped incalculable numbers of people. And I do have to point out that in your worldview you seem to not understand the gravity of prayer.
God is omnipotent. He can do anything. He also loves mankind. But since He respects free will, we must work with Him; He doesn't force us to do anything. Therefore, as many of the Saints say, prayer is the supreme work a man can accomplish on earth. Monastics are the special forces of prayer, so to speak.
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>>522103727
>Noooo youuuuu
Lmao post arm with timestamp you Turkish kanacke tranny worshipper
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>>522103961
What I'm trying to ask is how do you square >>522102726 with universalism/catholicism with a lowercase c being ok?
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>>522104189
I love you and more important, God loves you
Have a good night
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>>522104189
You don't even believe in God.
Why are heathencucks such liars?
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>>522103913
But that was a issue they were dealing with even before converting to Christianity. How would Roman paganism prevented them from collapsing?
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>>522103825
The Byzantines were culturally Greek, I don't really care what the Ottomans thought.
>Feelings deceive, but knowledge is real.
Okay. What's the "knowledge" that proves that your god is real?
>The proof is the lives of the Saints. They are transfigured, truly healed, human beings. The fruits of the other religions are failures, because the tree that grows those fruits is wrong.
Buddhist monks are pretty holy. There's clearly other paths towards reaching "enlightenment" or whatever you want to call it.
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>>522104426
See >>522102172
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>>522104292
I dont take orders from muslim shitskins like you
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>>522104382
He won't post arm
He will claim you are trying to doxx him by making him prove he is white
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>>522104311
I think I understand your question but I might be wrong so I'll answer what I think you're saying. I think you are saying the problem is Orthodoxy cannot be catholic because we say the roman catholic church is not the church. Therefore that must mean the Church isn't catholic because half of it is excluded.
But this is not the case. The Roman Catholics left the Church in the Great Schism. They are not longer part of the Church. The Church did not change, they did. The Church is still One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. It just calls itself Orthodoxy in vernacular today, but it is still the same One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. The Roman Catholics are no longer part of it after they willingly departed.
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>>522104382
>You don't even believe in God.
why are you lying? also God is completely unrelated to whatever your jewish slave cult preaches. christcucks know nothing about God.
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>>522104497
>Refuses to prove he is white
Lmao shitskin mullalalaladubaballa confirmed kek
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>>522104388
By becoming more nationalist. Obviously returning to your ethnicity's traditional religion to stoke nationalism would be more beneficial for survival than adopting one to placate everyone.
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>>522104542
I'm not. You are.
Why aren't you honest about your atheism?
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>>522104542
>christcucks know nothing about God.
Projection from shit skin false religion confirmed HAHAHAHAHA
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>>522104564
>mullalalaladubaballa
can you translate this from your language into english?
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>>522104605
>atheism
I'm not an atheist, look up what that word means.
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>>522104619
>Muslalalal reeeeee
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>>522093308
christianity is fake and gay and so is the big bang
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>>522104426
If you think Emperor Justinian was anything but Roman, you need to study the "byzantine empire" more.
By knowledge I mean lived experience, not necessarily head knowledge.
I disagree that they are Holy. What is your definition of Holy? What is your definition of enlightenment? They are ascetic, sure, but not Holy.
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>>522104528
My question was about the St. Gregory quote
>whoever calls himself universal bishop, or desires this title, is, by his pride, the precursor to the Antichrist
I guess this doesn't mention the church and only talks about individuals, but my takeaway from that quote is that universalism=bad
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>>522104653
What do you claim God is?
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>>522104606
>shit skin false religion
thats what all abrahamic religions are, they are false shitskin religions made by jews (brown people in the middle east).
>>522104664
sorry zutt bro, nobody has a clue what you are trying to say. try again in english.
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worshipping cats is correct
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>>522104683
Christianity is true and correct.
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>>522104749
>Shitskin mad now
Lmao nigger
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>>522104605
You can know Providence without being Christian
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>>522104733
already explained it, scroll up and learn how to read.
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>>522104575
Then why didn't it prevent it in the first place?
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>>522104789
>Lmao nigger
hundreds of millions of niggers in africa subscribe to christianity.
every christcuck church would approve of your daughter marrying a christian nigger.
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>>522104797
Do atheists believe in the universe?
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>>522104797
I'm sorry I don't speak nigger
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>>522093308
Okay but orthodoxy is pagan idolatry with heretical apocryphal texts, not Christianity.
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>>522104847
>Monkey nigger noises
Still waiting on you to post arm nigger lol stupid nigger
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>>522104490
It's all flimsy. If we're talking specifically about the resurrection argument, there isn't any hard evidence of supernatural activity. All we know for sure is that Jesus was crucified, his tomb was then found empty, and people saw what they believed to be Jesus.
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the sun and moon are the eyes of god, return to animal worship
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>>522104728
OH. He means universal jurisdiction. As in, the way the roman catholic pope works now. He literally appoints every other bishop and has complete authority over them all. He's like the king of their "church".

Orthodox Bishops are, generally, equal. They have their own jurisdictions. When you get to Archbishops and Patriarchs, they are elected to those positions and they preside over the meetings of the Bishops in council. This is how the Church has always operated (including in the West for the first roughly 1000 years). Patriarchs have authority to depose Bishops under their jurisdiction, but it must be done in the Synod, the meeting of the Bishops. It's not a totalitarian type of system, it's more like the ancient Anglo Saxon system of the Witan council electing the King, and the King having power over the Nobles in the council, only so long as the Nobles collectively recognize and respect him as King.
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>>522104848
how would I know what they believe?
>>522104857
>>522104893
>seething circumcised brown skinned subhuman still barking orders at me as if I care
kek
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>>522105120
I don't care what niggers say, simple as lol
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>>522104963
>It's all flimsy.
No it isn't.
>there isn't any hard evidence of supernatural activity
Yes there is.
>Jesus was crucified, his tomb was then found empty, and people saw what they believed to be Jesus.
Multiple *groups* of people, at different times and in different places, say they ate with him, talked with him, touched him, etc.
And the Apostles went from hiding in fear of their lives to boldly proclaiming the Gospel, to the point of death.
And James the skeptic converted after encountering Jesus.
And Paul the persecutor of Christians converted after encountering Jesus.
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>>522093308
true,
buddism is useful, for like, calming down
and not taking life so serious
but as a philosophical system it's insane
because it violates the laws of non contradiction and identity
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>>522105047
Also the main problem with universal jurisdiction means that the roman catholic pope can just change the dogma of the roman catholic church at will, and nobody can do anything about it. In Orthodoxy, first of all dogma doesn't change, and the ruling of the Church are only determined in those councils, the meetings of the Bishops, and the most important of which where the 7 Ecumenical Councils.
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>>522105120
By using your head, little dummy.
Answer the question.
You say you're not atheist, and that God is the universe.
Do atheists not also believe in the universe?
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>>522099057
>never suggest a better faith or religion
I'm not going to waste time convincing people about something I don't have all the answers for. I've seen a lot of esoteric posters who ascribe to gnosticism, but by definition, it isn't for everyone.
This board is mostly natsoc anyway, and in that kind of society, religion takes a backseat to blood
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>>522104728
It goes without saying that the Vatican and the system of Cardinals did not exist until after the Great Schism. They are roman catholic inventions.
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>>522105179
>the laws of non contradiction and identity

lol
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>>522104692
>Emperor Justinian
He was Roman, but this was also before the empire transitioned into a Greek state.
>By knowledge I mean lived experience, not necessarily head knowledge.
Are you one of those schizos who thinks he's talked to angels?
>I disagree that they are Holy. What is your definition of Holy? What is your definition of enlightenment?
What is your definition? Buddhist monks are very dedicated to their religion. That sounds holy to me. But we're just going in circles at this point. This is all just circular arguments from you.
>The saints are holy because they believe in Jesus and Jesus is real because the saints are holy
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>>522105161
you care enough to shower me in (You)s, thats how much you are seething and coping and whining and its hilarious.
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>>522105238
Stop talking at niggers who won't post arm because they know they are niggerz.
You are arguing with a low IQ shitskin, did you learn nothing from the twitter meltdowns?
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>>522105291
>a = whatever i feel like it is
good luck with that
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>>522105302
>Nigger thinks if he keeps babbling words it will magically make his nigger takes less niggardly
Lol, nigger mad
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>>522105047
They had shale fracking back then?
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>>522105238
>Do atheists not also believe in the universe?
"atheist" is not a universal belief system. there are atheist flat earthers for sure so yes some atheists might not believe that there is a universe, some atheists think this is a simulation so they also dont believe in a universe and there are many different ideas that atheists subscribe to, depending on who you ask.
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>>522105375
A is whatever it becomes
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>>522105439
>Nigger says niggers are not niggers if they larp hard enough
I can smell the astrogel in your post lol nigger
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>>522105452
a= a
a /= b
laws of identity and non contradiction in a nutshell
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>>522105380
>niggardly
that word has nothing to do with niggers.
funny how you cant even speak proper english, dont even know the meaning of the most simple words and accuse others of being a shitskin/nigger.
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>>522105514
You are talking to a memeflag
Which is a nigger guaranteed.
Stop giving niggers in white spaces attention you stupid whore
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>>522105514
A becomes B, law of transformation and revolutionary contradiction
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>>522105532
>Nigger mad some more
Hah
Nigger
Post arm(you won't)
Because you will never be white
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>>522105439
You're intentionally being obtuse because you're fundamentally a liar and know it.

Do some atheists believe in the universe?
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>>522105298
>Are you one of those schizos who thinks he's talked to angels?
Absolutely not, I am unworthy of such a thing.
Holiness is being healed, transfigured, into a complete human being, overcoming sin. The primary problem of buddhist monks (aside from their theological error and delusional view of the cosmos) is that they do all of this asceticism for themselves. It's an inward, self-centered goal. It's pride. Their meditation is a monologue. Christian prayer is a dialogue, even if the communication is without words, you are in contact with the Creator of the Universe. Our goal is to be of service, to heal ourselves in order to be closer to God, and to stop harming our fellow man made in the image of God, being in service of man as well. It's a constant selflessness, and by this and with God's grace we acquire the virtues. But the point isn't to acquire the virtues themselves, that's not the end goal. The end goal is communion with God. God made us because He is the definition of love, and love cannot exist by itself, it requires an other being to love.
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>>522105613
you lost, give up.
>>522105628
I'm not a liar but you are subscribing to a jewish religion made by jewish liars. christianity is fake and gay. thats the realization that this thread ends with.
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>>522105628
>Keeps arguing with a nigger who won't post arm
You must be a nigger mutt yourself to care this much what a shit skin majority flag thinks
What a rube
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>>522105719
>Nigger won't post arm because is a nigger
Lol
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>>522105298
>That sounds holy to me.
Are you a Buddhist?
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>>522105724
>amerimutt thinking USA isnt majority shitskin
toppest of keks
too bad the thread is already over, I would have loved to see more of this lolcow spergout kek
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>>522105748
>Argues with Jeets
Another shit skin brain
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>>522105719
I've cornered you, haven't I?
Answer the question.
Do some atheists believe in the universe?
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>>522105775
>Keeps responding because triggered by being called a nigger
Lol nigger is as nigger does
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>>522105801
That's a Muslim you are arguing with you stupid dumb fuck
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>>522105747
more like
>free white man isnt taking orders from circumcised amerimutt shitskin christcuck slave
>>522105801
>I've cornered you, haven't I?
maybe in your dreams. you lost the argument a long time ago.
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>>522105641
So if the problem of Buddhism is that it's "self-centered" then does that mean that if one was to devote themselves fully to a god that wasn't Jesus then would they be holy?
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>>522105719
Christianity is true and correct.
Jesus rose from the dead.
Christ is Lord.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=12syh8dPOto

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzklRPDfAj0 [Open]

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/scholarly-writings

https://laurazpowell.org/blog/just-the-facts-maam-the-minimal-facts-argument-for-the-resurrection-of-jesus

>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the dead. If someone wants to dispute this, they must deal with the evidence, including the criteria for historical reliability, and offer some reason why this explanation falls short or provide a better explanation for the facts.
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>>522105914
>Nigger thinks if he just says enough words the lurkers will forget he won't post arm or prove he is even white
Lmao @ your nigger logic
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>>522105914
Answer the question.
Do some atheists believe in the universe?
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>>522105984
>the jewish experts agree that the science is settled
very convincing lmao
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>>522105984
>Slurps nigger dick in desperate hope he will accept his arguments
Lmao a true cuck
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>>522105748
No, but I do respect Buddhism as well as anybody who's truly devoted to their religion
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>>522106048
>No
Then why do you call it holy?
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>>522105943
No, because that false god does not have the power to heal them. Thus it would be in vain.
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>>522105995
>Lmao @ your nigger logic
the only nigger logic here is yours.
>>522106004
>Do some atheists believe in the universe?
sure why not
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>>522106025
>All statistics and scientific studies that don't agree with my world view is jewish reeee
Lmao spoken like a true 13/50 I bet you claim the FBI crime stats are fake too lmao
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>>522106094
>because that false god
the christcuck god is also false. its not real, jews made it up.
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>>522106161
it's worse than false hahahaha
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>>522106126
I dont need stats from jewish organizations to know that niggers are subhumans not fit for civilization.
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>>522106090
Because holy just means someone who's dedicated to their religion.
>>522106094
Okay, so saints are holy because they believe in Jesus and Jesus is real because saints believe in him. Circular argument.
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>>522106048
>I do respect Buddhism as well as anybody who's truly devoted to their religion
Do you respect ISIS suicide bombers? They're truly devoted to their religion.
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>>522106228
>Nigger tries a different tact, still won't post arm
You will always be a nigger
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>>522106331
To an extent, yes. If we had more Christians like that then there wouldn't be so much jewish influence.
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>>522106161
Christ is real and he can heal you.
He's waiting for you with open arms.
>Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
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>>522106310
>holy just means someone who's dedicated to their religion.
False.
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>>522106310
The Orthodox Saints are incomparable to anything buddhism can produce. Read about St Paisios of Mount Athos. He died in 1994. Read about St Seraphim of Sarov. Read "Wounded by Love" by St Porphyrios. Read about St Raphael of Brooklyn. Read about St Herman of Alaska. If you want to go ALL the way back, read about St Spyridon, who was at the First Ecumenical Council called by Emperor Constantine.
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>>522106389
Nigger
>>522106395
Nigger lover and cuck
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>>522106389
>yes
I don't think you really do.
And if you did, you'd be wrong to.
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>>522106382
cope & seethe
>>522106395
>Christ is real
a real jew that created a jewish slave religion.
>and he can heal you.
I dont require any healing.
>He's waiting for you
keep waiting, I will never ever fall for a fake jewish slave religion.
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>>522106310
Read the life of St Anthony the Great, perhaps the greatest ascetic to ever live.
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>>522106121
So some atheists believe in God, according to you?
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>>522106526
*greatest ascetic to ever live, aside from Jesus Christ
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>>522106524
>I dont require any healing.
You very clearly do.
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>>522106563
nope
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>>522106572
Jesus wasn't the greatest ascetic, fyi
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>>522106611
no I dont, I feel great. your jewish slave religion cant bring me down.
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>>522106627
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jew loving christcucks lost but they will be back with another thread trying to shill their jewish scam religion some more, thats for sure.
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Jesus used "drugs" to do "magic"
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>>522093308
About to open some cheap vino. Too bad the bump limit's here I like this thread
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>>522106692
kikes love larping as Whites to sell christianity
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>>522106772
I seen that too and it doesnt surprise me at all.
a jewish scam attracts more scammers. it simple logic.
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>>522106618
But you said God is the universe.
And that some atheists believe in the universe.
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ICXC NIKA
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>>522106853
>And that some atheists believe in the universe.
not all atheists believe the universe is alive, they think its a dead object.
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>>522106692
Christianity is true.
Jesus is Lord.
And He loves you.
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>>522106903
What do you mean by "alive"?
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>>522106935
its fake and gay and jewish, no thanks.
>>522106972
the universe is a living thing, some sort of lifeform too big to comprehend.
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>>522107015
Correct. Jesus IS love.
In him, all things hold together.
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>>522107030
>the universe is alive
No atheists believe that?
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>>522107030
What do you mean by "living thing" and lifeform?
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>>522107030
No, it's the truth.
Christianity is the truth.
Christ is God.
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>>522107071
nope
>>522107107
look into a dictionary
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>>522107045
>Jesus didn't invent Love, nor does he own it

Love existed before and after Jesus, independently of him.
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>>522107160
>nope
No atheists think the universe is alive?
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>>522107138
>No, it's the truth.
according to some jew, so this "truth" is worthless.
>Christianity is the truth.
is a jewish scam FTFY
>Christ is God.
brown jewish guy giving himself a big title
fake and gay tho
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>>522107201
Wrong. Jesus is the beginning and the end.
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Egyptians didn't need Jesus to forgive them, they knew Re was good.
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>>522107160
>look into a dictionary
There are multiple definitions.
Which one are you using?
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>>522107213
No, it's just the truth. Doesn't matter who says it.



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