>Present Ukraine a peace "deal">Obviously not gonna sign it because its just 100% capitulation to Russia>Has non-Ukraine NATO conditions in it, which is bat shit insane>Turn out the "deal" came straight from Russia >Had zero US input>DAAH U SHOULD BE HAPPY!How is this not legitimate treason?
>>522103796If Ukrainian leadership thinks victory is still possible then let them fight.
>>522103796
to the last ukrainian.
>>522103796Who cares
>>522103917Aren't they doing just that?
Apparently fluent Russian-English speakers can tell that it was translated directly from the Russian because of the odd phrasing that makes sense in Russian but not English.ChatGPT tariff policy all over again. What a joke country.
>>522103796>tranny thinks ukraine is in any position to demand anything lol lmao even
>>522104031Really badly.
I absolutely believe that this isn't just Trump desperately trying to save face after both sides told him to eat shit.
>>522103796>How is this not legitimate treason?Because Ukraine isn't the United States you leaf retard. We owe them nothing. Biden and NATO pushing Ukraine into a war we knew they couldn't win and that could have turned nuclear and destroyed the United States was treasonous and evil. And we did it for what? Because NATO needs Russia to be a bogeyman to justify more military spending? To undermine Russia? A million people are dead because we told Ukraine to turn down a peace deal that would have let them keep all their territory and somehow you don't think the people that pushed that war are treasonous?You're a fool.
>>522104803Wdy mean?
fafo
>>522103796>Turn out the "deal" came straight from Russia>US had zero inputYeah, it's why Ukraine didn't sign it. Zognald was given orders from his kike master to push the russian deal to give Russia everything so their jews would gain the most
>>522103796Treason against who? Is Trump a Ukrainian citizen?
>>522104870>we should simply just capitulate to RU and everything will be dandyFucking genius plan there retard. How's that Russian winter treating you over there?
>>522104937Working on behalf of an enemy nation is treason.
>>522104031Yeah and dying in record numbers. For which would be an inevitable loss.
>>522104638You realize 90% of Russian gains were in the first 3 months? Russia has been slogging for years to capture less then 1% a year, meanwhile the are now selling all their gold as the price of oil collapses.
>>522105034>Dying so much that they continue to move forward
>>522105006How is Russia an enemy nation? They’re only called the enemy by Jews. See how that works?
>>522105076so Jews are an enemy nation? I guess Trump giving them billions is treason??
>>522105071Good for them, but it’s all in vain. It’s a proxy war. Always has been. U.S. vs Russia proxy war which is retarded. Ukies are just too dumb to realize it.
>>522105076>They’re only called the enemy by Jews. See how that works?Jews call Russia servants.
>>522105136Correct,
>>522105149>Russia isn't an enemy nation!>No wait Ukraine war is a proxy war between Russia and the US!You FSBitch glowniggers can't even stick to your script.
>>522105154How do Jews have it both ways? Russia says Israel greatest ally, U.S. says Israel greatest ally, Oy Vey! Seems like they have their chips on both red and black.
>>522104991>everyone who doesn’t support the ukraine must be a Russian on a VPNI genuinely hope you cultists have a Jonestown moment when the ukraine inevitably surrenders. Lord knows you don’t have the balls for that though, you’ll just seethe and cope
>>522105149>/pol/tard think he's a genius for realizing that the Ukraine/Russia war is a proxy warGood god you people are fucking stupid.
>>522104925>>522103796>MeidasTouchLmao, those are fucking dem grifters.https://x.com/marcorubio/status/1992413078160617849Here's the secretary of state saying it's a US created plan. Cope and seethe about it euroretards.
>>522105154wow that's crazy, now explain why i should support the exclusively jewish ukrainian government?
>>522105249The average American gains nothing shilling this hard for Russia. It's why you glowniggers stick out like a sore thumb.>Heh fellow Americans, Russia sure is cool right, we really did them wrong I hope they beat us xaxaxa
>>522105249Basically this, I just want it to come to an end. I don’t care how. Just end it. Period, they need more lives for Moloch in his temple in Israel perhaps, who knows.
>>522103796Donica Lewinsky is just a sad senile looser at this point
>>522105041Russia is gaining, Ukraine isn't.
>>522105344I guess you should go back to supporting the Jewish Russian government then, since you were bent on doing that.
>>522105249>Advocating propaganda direct from the largest and most historic enemy of his home country >UR R A CULTIST!/pol/ is the estuary where ignorance meets contrarianism.
>>522105316Ukraine will just say no, and Trump will look for something else to distract you from Epstein files never being released
>>522105041What percentage of the Ukrainian population has left the country? You realize they aren’t coming back, right? Ukraine kidnapped dudes off the street and all the women fled to other countries and are fucking foreign dudes. They aren’t coming back. Ukraine is already dead. They just don’t know it yet.
>>522105354I just think Russia and the U.S. can be allies but it won’t happen until Putin finally dies and the Jewish occupation of the U.s. ends. Then we can move forward,
>>522104991>we should simply just capitulate to RU and everything will be dandyYeah, we should fucking trade with them. There's no rational reason for why they should be our enemies.This Ukrainian war is stupid and it could have been averted.>How's that Russian winter treating you over there?Oh yeah, I must be a Russian because I don't want to start WWIII against a nuclear power.Ukraine is a corrupt shithole and Zelensky is an evil kike, I don't care about either of them. I care about America and there is no reason why America needs to be fighting the fucking Russians.
>>522103796Sounds like complete surrender.
>>522103796who gives a shit about it? ukraine is a shithole no one cares about anymore. we got israel to worry about.
>>522105354>he’s doubling down Most Americans don’t want to keep sending money to dipshit foreigners from a country they couldn’t point to on a map three years ago. Only globalists and boomers support the ukraine, everyone else is apathetic at best and knows there is no way this doesn’t end with Russia winning. Now go ahead, give me your standard natofag cope. Very good odds I already know what you’re going to say
>>522105401It’s all Jewish, that’s the thing. Ukraine. Russia. U.s. nobody is understanding this. Jews bring death and destruction and turns brother against brother (Russia vs Ukraine is a brother war) it’s what they’re good at,
>>522103917Fuk u shil
>>522105434>women fled to other countries and are fucking foreign dudes.So are Russian women. Russian men are dying on the streets while Russian women fuck foreign men behind their backs. It's grim, I don't know why Putin hates Russian white slavs so much that he wants them to die.Putin must be the anti-christ
>>522105403>yes, I believe Russia is the greatest American enemy and not Israel>I can tell you’re a shill because you disagreeThe memes write themselves.
>>522105434you don't know exact casualty and recruitment numbers anymore then I do. The fact that Russia has such meager gains tells me they have held the line fore 3 years and can do so a lot longer
>>522104925Exact.
>>522105528It’s not, Russian parts of Ukraine get annexed, Ukraine parts stay Ukraine. Omg, complete surrender! It’s not. It’s retarded.
>>522105403>advocating propagandaHow so?>largest historic enemyThe kikes and Chinese?>im not in a cultAll you natofags are. It would be tolerable if you could back up your talk, but outside of us none of you retards fund your own militaries.
>>522105434>I'm sure the country will collapse any second now... ANNNY second - February 25, 2022You do know Russia has been literally stealing Ukrainian children? Right...?
>>522105573That leaf here is a fucking moron,
>>522105418>Ukraine will just say no and continue to lose territory
>>522105652Says reliable Jewish sources. Uh huh. Remember the babies they threw out of incubators in Iraq too? WMDs? There is more evidence on Israeli atrocities on Gazans than what you’re saying like a true faggot leaf.
>>522105583>can do so much longerIs that why they demand the west extradite draft dodgers? Why they constantly beg/demand more weapons? Why they haven’t gained any land since this war started? Delusional little natofag
>>522105583Ukraine is getting pushed back, while being supplied by the entire “free” world, while defending their own territory, while their generals freely admit they have manpower issues, while tens of millions of people have fled, while Ukrainian men overseas refuse to come back and while Zelenskyy operates literal kidnapping vans.There is no way to spin this into a “actually this situation is great and they can maintain it for another thirty years if need be.” Just pure delusions.
>>522105624Kikemir Jewtin himself said all parts of Ukraine are Ukrainian several years ago.Only recently did he "decide' that it wasn't. He's a kike and a hypocrite, those moloch rituals are twisting his brainThis is what you FSBitch glownigger always leave out.
>>522105716>Russia will continue to meat grind it's people for empty farms while it goes broke.
>>522105624>Muh pattern recognition!>RU for the last 30 years has done a complete about turn on every peace deal they've made and land grab anytime they can>IM SURE NOW THEY'LL BE PEACFUL GUYS! Even if you were a hardcore RU shill against foreign support, this is an objective fact.
>>522105790Why do you cultists call Putin a kike while actively supporting an actual jew in zelensky?
If it was a Russian plan, why did Trump position it as his own and tell Ukraine to sign it by Thanksgiving?
>>522105716Ok, keep believing this. The ukrainians are not rat cowards like you, kike. They will fight untill the end.
>>522105652Yeah, I heard that rumor from the babies Gaza put in ovens who heard it from the lampshade guys who heard it from the masturbator machine operators who heard it from the coin clippers.
>>522105781and yet Russia still only takes less then 1% of territory a year. I'm sure two more weeks and Ukraine done, you been saying that like prayer for the last three years
>>522105860Because he is a kike and you support his extermination of whites.Therefore you are eitherA. Russian glowniggerB. Kike profiting from thisSee >>522105154
>>522105895Good, THD is non-negotiable
>>522104595Tranny obsessed vatnik at it again.
>>522105877Probably because he's a fucking retard and doesn't know half the things that are happening behind his back.
>>522105917Thanks for just conceding that I was right about everything I posted, lmao.>I'm sure two more weeks and Ukraine done, you been saying that like prayer for the last three yearsBack to ESL lessons, pidor.
>>522103796TO THE LAST HOHOL
>>522103796nigger, how is this OUR war you stupid fucking pajeet? russia could take the entire country if it wanted to, and honestly, SHOULD.
>>522106005I'm not here to argue with you retard, just to laugh a dead Russian every year for the next ten years
>>522105918>he is a kike and you support him killing whitesPutin isn’t a jew, zelensky is. How do you reconcile that fact with your cult’s beliefs?
>>522106065>I like watching dead peopleI really don’t think you understand what you’re saying. You natofags rarely do
>>522103796>100% capitulation to RussiaYou faggots are so far detached from reality it’s pointless
>>522105136Yes
>>522105537Sure vatnigger. Better send that money to Israel or some jewish president in south america instead of sending outdated weapons ( which your taxes already paid for) to kill soldiers of a nation that openly antagonises you in their propaganda. At least we are seeing the end of the american empire and it's export of degeneracies.
>>522106148I have zero investment in this war unlike you russnigger faggots, everyday Russians grind to death is just funny to me
>>522106081>Putin isn’t a jewYour little homo cult around Putins cock isn't healthy fag. Kikemir Jewtin is a kike and you are one of his biggest faggots.
>>522106065You’re gonna need this, pidor.
>>522105908>>522105745>Y-YES YEEEEES. IGNORE YOUR EYES AND EARS LIKE A GOOD LITTLE PIGGY! KEEP BLAMING THE JEEWS AND BLACKS.
>>522106206This, kikes rule everything, it is so over.... They won, us little timmies have no hope. I will just surrender now.... It's over....
>>522105537>Only globalists and boomers support the ukraine, everyone else is apathetic at bestOnly Russian glowniggers and BRIC turdies support Russia which is really not making it good for you.
>>522106227projecting much vatnigger faggot? I couldn't even name half the slav runes garbage they use
>>522105895>>522105895Even the international legion is getting moved to assault units and all of the foreign volunteers are crying about being shipped to the front. Not a good sign monkeyanon, but they'll probably still take you if you're so brave.https://kyivindependent.com/exclusive-ukraine-plans-to-effectively-dismantle-international-legion-sources-say/
>>522106201>toothpaste countryNo one is going to take you seriously when you would not exist without our tax dollars. >old weaponsHahahahaha, still using that old cope, huh? >end of the American empireThe irony of a natofag seeking the collapse of the U.S. is astounding. It’s like a tick hoping the horse it sucks will die.
>>522106204>I have zero investmentExcept the billions of dollars sent to the ukraine>u r rushianLike I said, the fact you genuinely believe that makes you a cultist. And for all your talk, I could post pics of dead Ukes that would make you squirm.
>>522106206>more copeHow do you reconcile hating kikes with supporting zelenskike? It would be a simple question if you weren’t in a cult
>>522103796Yes, this is treason of Putin. Russia gas won and should take entire Ukraine.
>>522106300I don’t support Russia, I just don’t want to keep funding this war. Russia is going to win it, and there is no evidence otherwise. I’d ask you how you think it will end, but I figure you’ll say something obscenely stupid like “nuke Moscow”
>>522106428>genuinely believe thatI don't think you are in Russia, but you are probably some east slav mystery meat retard keyboard warrioring Russia while living in the west
>>522106301I don’t know what would be funnier: you desperately trying to convince me you aren’t a Ukrainian shill on a VPN or you being a native English speaker that actually talks like this much of a fucking retard.Seriously though, are you Indian or Israeli?
>>522106484You can't pretend to hate kikes while supporting Putin the greatest kike. Your kike religion is going to get exposed one day.>>522106566>Just give everything up to Putin!Yeah ok glownigger,I see they got you niggers shilling double time.
>>522106667>I don’t think your Russian>but I think your Russian Jesus Christ, there must be an upper IQ limit to be a natofag, and that limit is room temperature
>>522106286
>>522105917russia had massive gains at the start, then the situation changed. are you implying is impossible for the situation to change again?
>>522106771>you don’t hate kikes unless you support a kike like meI want you to try and talk through that logic in hopes that it will break your cult conditioning. >give everything up to PutinWhat other option do you think is left? Come on, I want to hear you explain how Russia doesn’t win this.
>>522103796...
>>522106793>geographical place vs ethnicityI see these concepts have just gotten way to abstract for you, I need to remember not to talk to you retards past a 1st grade level.
So why doesn't the US just annex the western half of hohol land give Russian the Eastern and put an end to it. Fuck jewkrainians
dear ukraine, here are my demands, straight from papi putindear american people, here are your new laws, straight from daddy netanyahuyours sincerely, the most powerful man in the worldmake america great againps i love that communist mamdani and my new plane from qatar is totes on fleek
>>522106286seething lmaoZ
>>522103796> nafo troon lost for wordsthe word you are looking for is> thank you.
>>522106917You’re still saying that everyone who disagrees with you must be a Russian, which is why I call you a cultist. You think semantics change your opinion. I’ll ask you like I asked your other cult faggot, how does this war end without Russia winning? And if your answer is “nukes” then you’re comically stupid
>>522106901Nothing from India surprises me anymore so I thought he was sucking off some male dog at first until I realized it was a girl dog.
>>522107101this war ends with Russia going broke, hence they are selling half their gold reserves just to cover their budget deficit while begging Trump take make Ukraine agree to their peace offer.
>>522107195>russia going brokeYeah, they sell oil to the whole of Europe and have almost comically large natural resources. That isn’t going to happen. “But more sanctions” will do nothing. So your hope that Russia loses this is based on abject falsehoods. Which is a very common element among cults.
>>522107195Taras pidorenko from zalupivsk, you’ve been repeatedly warned by Russians that your new master uses you as a meatshield and nothing more. Now the clock hits 12 and you realize all those losses and suffering won’t gain you a place in nato
>>522105434They're almost all in Europe, which can and should force them back. The policy of letting woman and children leave Ukraine at the start of the war was disastrous: why fight for a depopulated country. But Europe seems to have largely learned this lesson and is finally willing to force refugees back home.OTOH as Russia runs out of money to pay people to fight it'll just start forcing them to as well.
>>522105034So it's inevitable loss (fighting) vs inevitable loss (surrender). Hard decision
>>522104031no no, we mean make uke leadership fight on the front line
>>522107438I'm not Ukrainian don't spit you goblin runes at me
>>522107386check what Russian oil is selling at. its barley profitable for them right now, it not some secret they are selling all their gold, it's literally on Russian news
>>522107579I don’t even like Putin and I don’t support neither his war nor his policies. But I do share his resentment towards Ukraine and I find you an extremely obnoxious annoying pederast who’s trying to “combat ruZian influence” while rattling around with his potential friends and supporters. How fucking dumb can you be to be oblivious to this, one ponders. Kys pigga
>>522107671>oil doesn’t sellYes, and everyone drives a Tesla or rides the bus. What will your cope be when Russia doesn’t go bankrupt?
>>522103796>How is this not legitimate treason?Ukraine isn't America, Trump would be well within his rights to let the Russians burn it to the ground and jam a shovel up the ass of every last Ukrainian if he felt that was in America's best interests.
>>522107691i have literally not said a single pro-Ukrainian thing this entire thread you brainwashed retard.
>>522107752God damn you are such a fucking retard, when you are trying to run a hundreds of billion dollar war, you need profit, not just sold oil
>>522103796>Meidas TouchBuy an ad, nigger. No bump for you.
>>522107771France is willing to fight Russia and Israel. Trump is preventing them from doing both
>>522107783Keep us posted, it’s all about the moral victories. Ukrainian info campaign was the biggest gift to Russian propaganda
>>522103796Cope and seethe hohol Ukraine lost. Trump and Putin are frens and zelensky is not welcome. Should've said thank you
>>522107895ok buddy, don't you have some farm to storm on a moped, I got my popcorn ready for your 15min of fame on the next drone video
>>522103917without my fucking money.
>>522103796>t.Literally nobody apart from Ukrainians and Ukrainian diaspora in the West cares that much Ukraine will go back to Russia as it always had. Most people though Ukraine was a Oblast not long ago. Take your seethe to Plebbit
>>522107962Don’t you have a van to take you to another peremoga, buddy? I’ve heard Poles drive those around now
>>522104595They are. Ukraine used to be entire Russian sphere of influence now they only get 1/3 of it. But yeah a Ukraine is delulu if they think they don't make have to make any concessions. I guess it depends on who will be harmed more by the war long term Ukraine or Russia
>>522107850>you need profitWhich comes from selling oil and other natural resources, things Russia has in functionally limitless quantities. What will your cope be when Russia doesn’t go broke? If I were a natofag like you, I’d try to have my copes prepared early, since you’ve needed them so frequently in this war
Look, the issue here is that Ukraine is transphobic. They should accept who Ukraine really is - it just had to cut a few bits off to express it's real identity and be who it really is, and Transkraine is a beautiful, real country.
>>522108084Na there is no vans in the USA. You can fantasies all you want but end of they day you still live in that shit hole Russia and poop in an outhouse
>>522108084“Um akshually they aren’t draftees, they’re …. something else”
>>522103796>caring about ukrannyWheres my fuckin money hohol shit?
>>522108138You are a pathetic excuse for an American. Simping for globalist kikes and wanting deeper involvement in foreign wars. Fucking leftist
>>522108108lamo ok, I've got my popcorn I'm more then willing to keep watching, its you fags that act like the end is in two more weeks. I bet we will still be talking shit about this in two years
>>522108138>You can fantasies all you want but end of they dayPigga, just drop your guise at this point. You’re humiliating yourself and Ukraine both
>>522108084If i got v& by a pole id just surrender and join the other side out of pure seethe
>>522108213kek look how rustled this zigger faggot got.
>>522108138>You can fantasies all you want >YOU CAN FANTASIES SAAR, ALL YOU WANTING BLOODY FUCKINGDefinitely a native English speaker here.
>>522103796Treason is acting against your own government/fealty sworn. How is suggesting a treaty put forward by one of two belligerents in a third party conflict treason?
>>522104595KEK the tranny obsessed freaks are STILL on pol
>>522108291It took a single Russian to smoke you out?
>>522108422Pedokraut, YWNBAW
>>522103796Gotta get Russia to drop support for iran somehow.
>>522108578only think you smoke is cock nigger
>>522108246I never said the war would end soon, though I hope it does just so I stop hearing uke beggars and natofag cope. I said it will absolutely end with Russia winning, and none of you are able to explain how that won’t happen
>>522108737>only think >you smoke is cock niggerBrown alarm going off, if it's anything like a smoke alarm you won't notice, though.
>>522108737Why so mad? Can’t you produce anything more productive and appealing to audience to make people reeeally support Ukraine?
>>522108291And there you go again, you say I must be a Russian because your cult demands that towards nonbelievers. Just so you know, even the centrists are getting tired of foreign wars. You and yours supporting this war are a finite bunch
>>522108591Careful britbong or I might write Starmer for your microagression. You don't have a license do you?Although you guys are gonna get banned in a few days anyway
>>522105476You’re a fucking retard shill is all
>>522103796In a year, the Kharkiv region will probably be added. To be honest, I don't understand at all why make a filthy peace, it is necessary to wage war until Kiev is taken, and all Jews and Tatars will die.
>>522108983Pedokraut! Pedokraut!Fucks kids bumholes, there's no doubt!Pedokraut! Pedokraut!Lock up your kids when he's about!
>>522103796This is a shitty deal for RussiaBut it's a good deal for the USthose senators are full of shit
>>522109066>it had to switch ids because of all the buckbreakening
Trump is certainly a traitor, the US can no longer be trusted, and Europe has to step up finally, has to give all the supplies and financial aid Ukraine is requesting.
>>522108971>le centristYou’re a pretentious and disingenuous faggot.
>>522109148>RUSSIAN FLAGShow real flag, western faggot lmao.
>>522104870What peace deal?
>>522109179Oh I’m not a centrist, I think they’re exactly as you say. But I’m trying to tell the natofag that even the normies are starting to stop supporting the ukraine. The only ones who still do are ardent globalists
>>522109204Is it an id switcheroo or the ESL guy had to call for backup
>>522104297That's what you get if the author is Jared fucking KushnerI don't believe he is fluent in anything, icluding English.
>>522109179He's right, and he's based.
>>522103796Ukraine must absolutely not join NATO. That's Russia's number 1 condition.They can't join anyway since they have disputed territories.
>>522103796Agent Krasnov sticks to the plan.
>>522109298Show your flag. Bet you’re not even anywhere near up North and you’re sucking foreign politician dick so hard.
>>522103796Ukraine is not a NATO. America doesn't owe them shit.
Ukraine must capitulate total surrender bitch boys
>>522109368I’m a Ukrainian in disguise
>>522109454It’s always funny whenever I see a vatnigger cheerleader and its another western dick riding faggot like you.
You kikes memoryhole all of the Trump-Chabad Lubavich stuff?
>>522109592ayy lmao
>>522109514Can’t be bothered to entertain this angle but calling a Russian a westerner in disguise is a funky one
>>522103796I love watching both slavtrannies gain TDS and seethe. Literal slave people are proud of killing MILLIONS of their own. No one else even gives a shit about Russia and Ukraine. These two irrelevant shitholes will fight forever like some African countries. With the EU and Russia bogged down, it is a total American victory. As if the Superpower's world domination wasn't assured enough, it is secured even further. Everyone will suck the majestic American cock.
>>5221048702025 Believes Muh Nuke War Russo filth CopeSAD!!
>>522109636>i’m le russian guysUnironically western cheerleaders have more access to internet outside telegram than the REGULAR russian btw.
>>522103796>>Turn out the "deal" came straight from Russia>>Had zero US inputBut Rubio has announced they would rework it. How is that possible if it's russian?
>>522103796>MeidasTouch>anonymous sourceskill yourself you fucking faggot
>>522105781"""Entire Free world""""is sending literal cold war era junk and a bit of bulgar Chech and serbian ammo you fucking mongol Horde zigger freak
Generally when you lose a war you have to make concessions. >but they aren’t losing Clearly they are, they’ve given up even launching offensives to recapture territory. They just defend now and even with that they are still losing. Besides, their entire state is funded by foreign countries. They would collapse completely without constant cash flowing in from other countries. NATO doesn’t want to admit their gay war is a lost cause and yet that’s exactly what it is.
Ukrannies are so fucking delusional, they're really still in HERE'S HOW HILLARY CAN STILL WIN mode lmao
>>522109746>How is that possible if it's russian?Anon, the trump administration has tried at least 4 different times to lick Putin’s ass. This is another ass licking strategy in the art of the deal. Surely it will work this time.
>>522103796Not one shred of evidence in that tweet. No link, no source cited. No better than anonymous sources close to the situation inform us, bullshit.
>>522103796Ukraine doesn't have the manpower to beat Russia. Everyone knows this except retards in EU.
>>522109886>Besides, their entire state is funded by foreign countries. They would collapse completely without constant cash flowing in from other countries.Russia who is now dependent on China money to stay alive? LMAO.
>>522109779>Free world.Zelensky cancelled elections. Germany is arresting anyone who speak ls against Israel.
>>522104031NoThey will die though
>>522110037Wow you're dumb. Russia is so massive, it can survive on its ownUkraine is the poorest country in Europe
>>522109961>lick Putin’s asscan you faggots go a single post without projecting your disgusting subhuman fetishes onto Trump?
>>522110055>oh yeah?! Le slavic corruption!Anon, they’re all corrupt, are you stupid? You think anybody cares about “le corruption” in Russia/Ukraine? Is this your first time in Slav politics?
>>522110106Anon, before you call anyone dumb, are you able to tell me China’s oil imports to Russia and how much Russia makes from oil? If you can’t even answer anything like that, you should get off 4chan and actually read something basic. Literally just go to wiki and read, nigger.
>>522109999Quads
>>522110110>REEEEOk, you’re disgusted but I’m still not wrong. Tell trump to stop licking putin’s ass and people will stop saying that.
>>522105624You fucking retard. >US made a deal to protect Ukraine>BRICS is advancing and crushing the dollar>TACO>proxy wars are still our wars, despite not sending our boots.>its about what things mean for the future, as this is not just a singular domino; it is one of many. >Tzu would be rolling over in his grave if he saw the US military "strategy">implications and the future>Surrender>declare victory >claim to have ended warFucking pathetic, and will lead to the degradation of the USA further.
>>522110232Stop thinking that Ukraine has any chance in this war, you brain-fried redditard troon nigger. It's over. They lost. Deal with it.
>>522110346>BRICS is advancing and crushing the dollarand then you woke up, and everybody clapped
>>522110424>ITS OVERLmao, so what are your hopes for year 5 of SMO?
>>522110184>China’s oil imports to Russiaita either oil exports to, or oil imports from, pajeet.
>>522103796What it really happened >The Trump administration made the whole plan (This is clear as it isn't near even a 10% of what the Russians want)>Kellogg felt betrayed and leaked it to the press>The Ukrainians saw the plan and felt betrayed >Now Trump can only say that it was RussiaEasiest and most rational explanation
>>522110510Lmao >imported from*Anybody can answer the question now.
>>522103796you arent going to ever be a woman
>>522110106>Russia is so massive, it can survive on its ownCertainly not in a modern sense. They import pretty much everything. Unless you mean just food and hydrocarbons. Well, sure. But they don't manufacture vehicles anymore, they assemble pre-fabbed chinkshit. Even food, now, after the war. They import more than they export. That would be quite the shock. Inflation would pretty much decimate that shithole very quickly if it was truly isolated.
>>522110455>Lmao, so what are your hopes for year 5 of SMO?That they stop wasting my fucking tax dollars on this retarded and gay shit. I know you're on disability for being a retarded faggot, but those of us who actually work jobs and have our paychecks raped for this shit are pretty fed up with it. IDGAF if Putin takes London. It's not our business. And it would probably be a genuine improvement over the current management.
>>522103963more like: to the last vanushkafaggot
>>522103796>the one with strong hold over war makes the peace dealswho else, hohols? who the fuck made deals about post ww2 germany? hitler or international kikes?
>>522104595>da trannies pissed in my vodkashow flag, pidorashka
fuck ukraine. no real americans care about them. stop the aid and let the chips fall where they may.
>>522104870>And we did it for what?for globalist business and jews
>>522110822>and have our paychecks rapedYou don't have a job though.
>>522110855>The EU doesn't think that they can win either You will be surprised. The EUs leadership is responsible for 20 years of economic stagnation.I wouldn't understimate their mental retardation levels
>>522110822>m-muh TAXYou should just tell the federal government to fucking die, you retard. That includes both political parties who maintain a globalist system. Ukraine has nothing to do with anything about what you’re spouting shit about, retard.
>>522105006when is israel getting booted from US politics?
>>522111094take kief first big guyyou want total victory while you are still bogged in donbabwegermany was completely conquered when it came to peace dealsso get to work instead of whining
>>522111204ah yes the eternally butthurt pole, I'll laugh when your globohomo governments drags you to war - again
>>522111141The ESL dude couldn’t handle the heat so he invited another ESL in? Not bad
>>522111249>ah yes the eternally butthurt pole, I'll laugh when your globohomo governments drags you to war - again
>>522111249Like Russia wasn’t dragged to war for an agenda? LMAO.
>>522111291>western cheerleader with vatnigger flag againThis is embarrassing.
>>522104870>We owe them nothing.False.Ukraine gave up their nuclear arsenal after promises from USA and UK.It's from before we were born, and it wasn't written out in steel clad legalese, but those are only reasons to be even MORE aggressive in keeping your word. Right now, your word is anything but your bond.
>>522111322>globohomo government
>>522111388Putin must’ve agreed, I guess.
>>522111313The drone pilots are JEWS.It's a white man killing field!They are purposely depopulating Ukraine FOR jewish power!
>>522111358They should give better education out there by the borderlands of Palet. John Burger from Boston
>>522103917>just let them fight>just let them continue decimating one of the whitest countries on earth by demographic percentage no. absolutely a no from me.
>>522111418putin is mongol, jewish, tajik, pajeet and nigger himself>The Movement Against Illegal Immigration was created in 2002 following an ethnic conflict in Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow Oblast between ethnic Russians and immigrants from Armenia.[3]>Following the wounding of a Russian by an Armenian migrant, pogroms targeting Armenians took place. Over two dozen people were injured, with eight victims being hospitalized for severe injuries. On 12 July 2002, a xenophobic rally commenced in Krasnoarmeysk demanding the deportation of the migrants and the release of all Russians detained in the clashes.[3]>By the verdict of the Dorogomilovsky District Court of Moscow dated 28 May 2009, the leader and head of the DPNI Alexander Potkin (Belov) was found guilty of committing a crime under Part 1 of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The court found that, on Moscow DPNI leader's instructions, persons unidentified by the investigation attacked citizens of the Republics of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, causing bodily harm.[14]>The Movement Against Illegal Immigration was banned by the Moscow City Court on April 18, 2011. The organization has been accused of igniting interethnic hatred.[15] However, it did not enter into force across Russia because it was appealed. At the same time, the 18 February 2011 decree of Moscow Chief Prosecutor about the suspension of the activities of the organization is in force.[16] In August 2011, the High Court of Russian Federation has issued a federal ban of the organization.
>>522111488Ok, John smith from Texas Oblast
>>522111123kill yourself you projecting faggot>>522111141I know this is hard for retarded communist niggers like you to understand., but the money they steal from MY paycheck every single week is funding this shit. As the one paying for it, I want it to end. You stupid fucking nigger.
>>522111376if they dont stop fighting, there will be nobody left to claim that past agreement and make it binding. the nonsense has to come to an end, and the fighting must cease eventually. id pray that it does not come at the cost of every single fighting age ukrainian male.
>>522111486>pic
>>522111376No. The negro's administration explained that to Belarus back in 2013https://web.archive.org/web/20140419030507/http://minsk.usembassy.gov/budapest_memorandum.html
>>522111581>As the one paying for it, I want it to end. You stupid fucking nigger.You don’t have a job, you pretentious faggot. Pretty sure I pay more taxes than your NEET stupid ass.
>>522111491>Slavs>WhiteBased fellow mutt
>>522111661to me, white is a single color, of which there is an entire spectrum of (mainly european) people that qualify. we can gnash teeth, mince words, and split hairs over who qualifies, but as we do that, we are increasingly outnumbered by people that both: dont come close to qualifying, and viscerally hate us and would like to see to our end. dont do their dirty work for them. swedish btw. i can see the blue of my veins in a dark room. def not a mutt, like most burgers.
>>522111628No tranny, we wont do what you want. You lost tranny.
>>522103796TO THE LAST UKRANIAN! SLAVA UKRANI!!!!!!!
>IT WOULD NEVER HAD HAPPENED UNDER MY PRESIDENCY Oh yes it would have. Maybe even sooner because of all the 2021 chaos there would have been.
>>522111794These are nafo trash. Death is the only thing they deserve.
>>522111585The agreement is already binding, what kind of honorless cur are you to ignore it, and accept that your government just... does away with the protection that was promised?
Why is such a Russian cock sucker?He's literally deep throating Putin and begging for him to cum in his mouth.
>>522111376>The only way to honour a commitment designed to prevent nuclear aggression is to aggress until we are committed to nuclear war.The deal is fine. Anyone who wants to experience the war firsthand still has a a little while before the shooting stops. You can go over anytime you want and help with uxo cleanup and medical care. Or if you are feeling really brave you can enlist and discover hell for yourself in the first person.>Trump is saving the world.
>>522104031They’re being PAID to do that and losing.
>>522111566You guys are supposed to be smarter than average
>>522103796Legitimate1. Being in compliance with the law; lawful.2. Being in accordance with established or accepted rules and standards.3. Valid or justifiable.Treason1. a crime that undermines the offender's government2. disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior3. an act of deliberate betrayalI don't understand what 'legitimate treason' is. Legal treason? Maybe your emotions meant for you to type something different.
>>522111935im asking them to give up, not to listen to me and say i forced them.massive distinction. i care more about white survival than which white people control which parcels of land.whites are fighting a losing battle long term, but we are the only ones able to be the underdogs and stilll succeed, if we decimate ourselves over squabbles, we will be overtaken by the brown hordes and fall.you dont need to ask me about who the cur is, when i see that the only curs in the room are the people who would cut their own noses off to spite their faces.
>>522111935>what kind of honorless cur are you to ignore it, and accept that your government just... does away with the protection that was promised?The kind that wants to help you join the Ukrainian army. Post a crowdfunding request and I will ensure you are given an opportunity to join the infantry. Or choose a post and I will make sure you are being shot at within 72 hours of arrival.
>>522111609Sanctions on Belarus are a different issue.An attack on Ukrainian soil and a war have been recognised.At this point only a clown can say that America takes its obligations seriously.
>>522104595But this peace deal comes from Russia and the pedo in chief.
>>522103796>How is this not legitimate treason?Because the US/EU/NATO lost, in their war against Russia. The winner dictates the terms.The anons that have not lost their minds will recall the Alaska Summit, when Orange Toddler accepted Outin's terms for peace. Then he walked it back.But US has been in secret talks with Russia.Now the same peace plan (Russian terms to end the US/EU/NATO war) has been published since Feb 2022.It is unchnged.Now the Mann of Piss is presenting it as the Yoo Ess Piss Plan, to save face."Ok, you can have the land that I stole from you since 1991 back, as long as you stop killing my soldiers."Ok, ok, I will get the hell out of Dodge, same as I did from Afghanistan and the Red Sea.Just stop killing me, ok."It is not treason, it is saving face.
>>522112138It is not different in any meaningful way possible. Read the argument presented in the press note, the treaty itself is not legally binding.The whole of it
>>522111998I agree with you that he's saving us from a nuclear war.He's still a little bitch that doesn't honour his word.
>>522108004>without my fucking money.That's already been over for quite some time. Keep up faggot.
>>522112266They're still using my fucking tax dollars you unbelievable nigger, that's what all the aid packages are.
This proves, yet again, it is the US war against RussiaThe Kiev regime is the proxy, it has no voiceThe Piss Deal has to be between the warring powers.
>>522112319you don't say
>>522112138Fly to Poland and buy a bus ticket to Kiev. You can be a world famous merc before Friday. Whoever finds your body will make sure your id and corpse are uploaded to help dissuade other war tourists from committing suicide by agony.>Trump is saving the world. Zelensky is a war criminal. This whole epoch was a colour revolution designed to start ww3. If this was the Fallout timeline, people like us wouldn't be the rich fucks in the vaults. Stop interfering in Trump's prerogative.
>>522112138cont. Also neither Ukraine or Russia have formally declared war on the other
>>522103796>STUNNING DEVELOPMENT
>>522112253>I agree with you that he's saving us from a nuclear war.>He's still a little bitch that doesn't honour his word.How do you possibly hold these two opinions in your mind at the same time without crippling dissonance?
BasedPOCCNR won. The longhouse must capitulate
>>522103796Russia wouldn't accept this peace plan so there is 0% chance they had anything to do with it. They'd maybe use it as a starting point for negotiation at best.
>>522112303You fucking moron. Trump cut off any new aid back in March. Why are you commenting in this thread if you are that uninformed?
>Obviously not gonna sign it because its just 100% capitulation to Russiathats okay, it was always either diplomatic or military, both work
>>522112496>Russia wouldn't accept this peace planWhy not?
>>522105041>You realize 90% of Russian gains were in the first 3 months?they they took what they wanted (in terms of land, of course they have other goals as well) during those first months and are now waiting for the ukranians to come to terms with that and stop trying to get it back.
>>522112538That's because Russia's goals are far more ambitious and they believe that they can achieve them
>>522112101I promise to join in the very instant the US and the UK uphold their end of the memorandum. Now send all money and resources needed, for I am very serious and not at all a grifter.See this? This is how those nations are looking right now, to any red blooded European.>>522112250>Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriouslyThey can't have it both ways, that's all there is to it. A country gave them their trust, and this is the result. Shameful
>>522112499No he did not, aid is flowing as usual
>>522112608USA itself said the agreement wasn't legally bonded and broke it first in 2012 (I think) when they imposed sanctions on Belarus
>>522111376Fighting a war with the Russians to keep Ukraine's eastern provinces from seceding after a coup against the democratically elected President that they voted for is not something we owe them.They weren't going to be allowed to keep those Soviet nukes anyway. You're delusional if you think they had a choice.
>>522112594Thank you for your opinion. As there is no reason for me to believe it reflects their foreign policy, I will exclude it from further consideration.>They have mechanisms to clearly communicate what is acceptable. Territorial concessions, disarmament, denazification, and neutrality are their primary concerns and those are being fairly addressed.
>>522112608>A country gave them their trust, and this is the resultwhen hohols declared their sovereinty back in 1990, so talk about trustthat shit went up in flames in 2004, when Yushchenko got "elected"not that it matters by now, 2 decades later, we are where we are
>>522112656You mean weapon sales to other NATO countries who can then give them to Ukraine? No new direct aid, i.e. free, has been approved since Biden.
>>522112800*when hohols declared their sovereinty back in 1990 they promised to stay 100% neutral, no NATO and such, so talk about trust
>>522111491>absolutely a no from me.I assume you hate Putin for invading then and think he should leave?
>>522112608>Now send all money and resources needed, for I am very serious and not at all a grifter.Trillions of dollars later...>Guys I swear I am not a grifter. Just another decade of economic dislocation and I will finally have enough money to trust you.
>>522112816I mean direct transfers of weapons, isr and financial aid. Trump just continued the divestment that started under Biden
>>522112446Because both are true. There were non-nuclear options, and some are still open, they just aren't very fun.>>522112375Told you already, I'll go the very day that the US and UK come through with their obligations. It's not a legally binding contract, but I'll take it very seriously, you can bet your country on it.
>>522111491>slavs>whiteBut at least they're nazis fighting commies so they should be supported.
>>522112817There was never any 'no NATO' promise. It would be absurd.With that said, Ukraine was rejected from joining NATO multiple times, in 2008 and then in the 2010s and then the recent 'fast track us in' request being rejected. So the idea that there was some massive attempt to get them in as fast as possible is wrong.It's a retarded argument in any case since there's multiple countries in NATO in the Baltics who have been in for 20+ years but Putin doesn't spend 24/7 crying about those either. Estonia does not have these hypothetical nuclear weapons stationed on the border but it could put them closer to Moscow than Kharkhiv in theory.
>>522111794The definition is clear, whites = people of undiluted european blood.Slavs are mongols.
>>522112886USA declared the agreement null and void back in 2012 when they imposed sanctions on Belarus, a clear breach of the agreement. You can find the statement on the American embassy of Belarus
>>522112886>they just aren't very funThat is a pretty callous way to describe the death of millions of human beings. And the guarantee of hundreds of millions, if not billions, more.>Our future is in the stars. None of these issues will matter in 50 years.
>>522112375brown hands typed this post
>>522103796>includes point about signing non-aggression towards Europe into vonstitution>includes point of ceased Russian assets being giftede to UkraineAnyone who believes this is Russian is fucking retarded
>>522112796Anon, you still refuse to believe that this whole 28 points deal is a complete fuck up by Trumps admins which nobody likes; not Russia, not the EU and less of all Ukraine.
>>522112943>There was never any 'no NATO' promise. It would be absurd.>Укpaинcкaя CCP тopжecтвeннo пpoвoзглaшaeт o cвoeм нaмepeнии cтaть в бyдyщeм пocтoяннo нeйтpaльным гocyдapcтвoм, кoтopoe нe пpинимaeт yчacтия в вoeнных блoкaх и пpидepживaeтcя тpeх нeядepных пpинципoв: нe пpинимaть, нe пpoизвoдить и нe пpиoбpeтaть ядepнoгo opyжия.>The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear-free principles: not to accept, not to produce and not to purchase nuclear weapons.https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1991-2/eltsin-and-russian-sovereignty/eltsin-and-russian-sovereignty-texts/ukrainian-state-sovereignty/
>>522112950 And since then, American words aren't with the paper they're written on.This is their chance at redemption.
>>522112990I rizz the izzat kraut fag
>>522112032>>522109728
>>522103796Everyone knows your a hohol in leafland, a coward at that. You feel so strongly about it but you haven't gone back to help, is this you rationalising to yourself that you're "helping"? You used the word "traitor" like Trump and the zog squad owe your corrupt shithole some sort of allegiance while you furiously tip tap on the internet. You should kys yourself for being such a retarded coward. Obviously if Russia invaded Australia I'd fight them, but they haven't, it's your turn to fight Russia but you hide in amongst the poos.
>>522112990You could say that about 95% of the posts posted here since 2015 and still be correct. The real people are just realizing in the last 2 weeks that they've been hornswoggled all this time.
>>522112994>not Russia, They can speak for themselves. I am sure your concerns are very altruistic and that probably warms Putin's heart.>not the EU and Wgaf what they think. To quote the kiev couper herself: fuck the eu. Once this war is over most of your 'elite' class is going to be assassinated as punishment for treason.>less of all Ukraine.Funny, the last I heard he was a big fan of staying alive and not having his helicopter malfunction before accidentally landing in Russian controlled territory. Perhaps you know better though.
>>522113026But the Ukraine isn't an SSR anymore.And you realized and acknowöedged that back in the 00s when Lavrov literally said it's Ukraine's decision whether they want to join NATO or not (Handelsblatt interview from January 2nd 2005).>Handelsblatt: Does the right to sovereignty for Georgia and Ukraine also mean that Russia would have no objection to their entry tino the EU and NATO?>Lavrov: That is their choice. We respect the right of every state—including our neighbors—to choose its own partners, to decide for itself which organizations it wants to join. We assume that they consider for themselves how they want to develop their policies and economies and which partners and allies they want to rely on.
>>522112968 Quick and decisive action at the beginning of the conflict would have wasted way less human lives. That was the point of the Memorandum, after all. All this destruction, it's not just on Russia, and on Putin's hands, US and UK have their share of responsibility too
>>522113047Called it. Only brown "people" support russia.
>>522113027>American words aren't with the paper they're written on.Has there ever been a war you didn't switch sides in at least once?
>>522103796>meidasfar left political rag, fuck off
>>522103796When are you going back to die for ze kike, diaspora pig?
>>522112766>coupNo such thing happened. It's the incorrect word since Yanukovych was removed by the Ukrainian parliament via a constitutional procedure. No one else left the government. He then fled the country to Russia (what a surprise) because he's wanted for ordering snipers to fire on protesters.This idea that all of Ukraine secretly wants to be part of Putin's shithole was idiotic before the war and it remains idiotic today. I remember telling retards on here how stupid it was years ago while /pol/ tards kept talking about how Putin's subhumans would be greeted as liberators.If you were being honest you'd call it what it is in realpolitik terms. Russia wanted their puppet running Ukraine and he fucked up and a pro Western guy got in. That has made Russia unhappy because it is a geopolitical loss for them. That's it. Pearl clutching about the sanctity of democracy or any of that drivel is so tiresome.
>>522109306Why are Euro flaggots so obsessed with U.S. money continuing to be poured into Ukraine? I thought you were strong independent countries that don't need no man...
>>522103917What part of 'To the Last Ukranian' do you not understand? Why do you keep questioning it?
>>522113197That's literally a threat you retard
>>522113271>American flag>I thoughtsure thing, golem buddy
>>522103796helping jewtrannyans has caused 100% inflation, ie the doubling of all pricesthat's the real treasonkvetch moar, dog rapist
>>522105249this
>>522105136Yes retard. Not the own you thought it was
>>522113220Back in Roman times, I think.That's part of why why we'll never get a sphere of influence beyond the Mediterranean
>>522113253Ukrainians definitely don't want to become part of the mongrel nation of Russia. They are actually quite based people. The main problem is that western europe is so weak and decadent while still being vehemently anti-Russian. They always expect America to fix all of their problems while their citizens mock us and pretend we're equivalent to savages. Western Europe needs to be re-armed and learn to live with manly hardship. Forcing them to fight Russia on their own is actually for their own good.
>>522113200If McCain and Nuland hadn't couped Ukraine;If the entire country hadn't been turned into a neonazi shithole;If those same nazis hadn't started murdering completely innocent people;If that same government hadn't tried to exterminate the Russian demos in Ukraine, all of whom were lawful residents and citizens;If the Crimea naval base issue hadn't been chosen to be an international casua belli because Euro powers can't project into the middle east if so much as a coal steamer with sam's is in the same hemisphere as them;And if a million other bad decisions hadn't been made - on both sides - Then this could have been a domestic law enforcement issue with minor regional implications.>But your elites wanted their empires back and they thought they could make Russia and the US murder each other while they sipped wine in their castles. Now millions of people are dead and you are defending people who just tried to set you up for a nuclear holocaust because you think that Trump is bad or something.
>>522112949white is a color, no amount of cope will change that. >mongols>like that matters long termstry harder mohammed, this applies to finns and to a lesser degree swedes too. every single country in europe has admixture of varying sorts. in the exact same way, the (occasionally) incredibly white looking afghans who exist with red hair and green eyes have their own admixture.youre gatekeeping a fabricated ideal, and not reality.
>>522113500>using "Neo-Nazi" talking points on /pol/Retarded fucking muscovite bitch.
>>522113253>No such thing happenedYou are the type of guy who could be caught balls deep in his mistress and immediately try to gaslight your wife into redefining adultery.>Fine it wasn't a coup. It was magic and unicorns and ponies and rainbows with free cookies and unlimited magical money to pay for mercenaries. Stfu.
>>522113174How hard to understand is that Russia and Ukraine want to fight to impose their own position to the other, the EU supports Ukraine in this and that the US wants to stop doing it but at the same time they want to avoid looking like losers?This whole deal shit was an stupid idea from the start and only going on because Trump wants the Nobel prize out of envy (Obama got one)
>>522113197>But the Ukraine isn't an SSR anymoreratified by none other than Kravchuk btwhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Soviet_of_the_Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic>We assume that they will consider for themselves how they will develop their politics and economy and which partners and allies they will rely onfunny how no one in the wect got spooked by the second part of his reply
>>522113610That is what they are anon. $300B later and that is how it all started.
>>522113500>because you think that Trump is bad or something.More like because I think that years of war, billions of damage and waste, not to mention the cost in human lives, all because the 'big dogs' that promised to act as protectors decided it's not a good political move, is bad. And yeah, I think it's very bad, the definition of bad
>>522113253>Yanukovych was removed by the Ukrainian parliament via a constitutional procedurethey were literally 9 votes shortmoreover, the reason for his "impeachment", that was put up to vote, was never listed in the ukrandian constitution as the possible reason for impeachmentnot to mention that Kiev at that time was run by armed Yarosh goons
>>522111628All you’re doing now is seething, natofag. Were my questions so difficult?
>>522113627>the EU supportsItself. That is all. They want to be a global power to rival China. They tried to orchestrate a nuclear war between Russia and the United States. They are monsters who deserve to die. The ONLY reason you are alive today is because Americans killed everyone who was going to kill you. You don't know any of this because its not exactly common knowledge. So, thats not your fault. But keep that in mind when you are bitching about Trump. He, and his apparatus, are saving the world. Maybe the peace deal won't happen, but at least you don't have your own NPPs melting down intentionally to false flag a global war. So stfu as well and pray for peace.
>>522113832he has to face the truth, so yes, the questions were that difficult.
>>522113752The big dog causing this mess is the UK axis to Brussels. Not the US.
>>522113770not the first time ukranda fortifies its democwacy by not giving a damn about its own constitution tho: in 2004 they literally invented 3rd round of presidential election just for kicks (kickbacks to US MIC that is)
>>522113610>>using "Neo-Nazi" talking points on /pol/>he doesnt knowheh
>>522113861The EU is pathetic. It isn't trying to be a power. It takes shit from the US daily and is only defiant towards the US when the matter is about upholding the US lead liberal world order.Also, no, we don't have any real enemy that can and will pose a direct threat to the EU and even less to Spain.This is the last delusional crusade of a delusional political class that will burn away what little hope that there's left of economic growth that in the EU.Exactly what's doing the green Reimu in Japan
>>522114189>It isn't trying to be a powerYou don't know the half of it anon. Go eat your chorizo, plant your garden, bed your wife, raise a family, and strengthen your country. Politics are not for people like you. Go be free.
>>522114257>Is trying to be a power>Accepts 15% tariffs from the US without any pushback Choose one and only one.Fuck it goes back to doing nothing about the PRISM scandal and even earlier.The whole thing of the EU trying to become a power is internal propaganda sold to average EU citizen to justify the existence of the Union
>>522113717>>522114062If Ukrainians are actually Nazis all the more reason to support them against the evil Muscovite mongrel hoard. God damn, I'm a paleo-con from the United States but I recognize the reality that the eastern european states are way better on their own than under the mongrel boot. I just don't want my country to be sucked into European adventures.
>>522114549>If Ukrainians are actually Nazis all the more reason to support themsupport away, who cares