WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WHEN IS THIS BUBBLE POPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just get cheaper RAM, do you really need the ultra top of the line shit
>>522105086of course xir does how else will xir support woke games
>>522105030shut up and just buy it
>>522105030Why is it so expensive? This should be $100 max there's even phones with 32gb ram
>meanwhile laptop DDR5 @5600MHz is a fraction of that
>>522105030you actually think prices go down when a bubble bursts?
>>522105086>>522105188Corsair is the top of the line ofRAM? I bought 64Gb of ram from corsair because I couldn't buy another option, so I was like, maybe next year I could be ram with actual quality
>>522105086Yes, poor.
>>522105236AI data centers buying all the stocks leaving only the crumbs for us all peasants
>>522105236>Why is it so expensive?massive demand from data centers>This should be $100 max there's even phones with 32gb ramphone ram is different from PC/server RAM and that's not what there's a shortage. or maybe it /is/ affecting phone prices if they use the same parts, idk about that. would reveal an interesting bottleneck in the pipeline
>>522105268data centers don't buy laptop DIMMs
>>522105299no its mid grade but from a retail store with a market up, op is a faggot from preddit
>>522105268aaaaand its gone.
>>522105030What is this? Tried googling it, it's some kind of thing to make Robolox play faster? Dude, how about instead of >whining about the price>supporting communism>getting a job and saving up to buy thishow about you just try growing the fuck up? You have video game addiction. This is a total waste of your life. There is nothing you get out of playing these games. You would be a better person if, instead of video games, you had a cocaine addiction.
>>522105030Sadly, this bubble is going to take bystanders with it. We're running on fumes for our fiat currency, and it is going to be rough when it finally goes. We punted the ball a little over a decade ago, and tied up all of our recovery into this very sector. We may try to punt again, but without fixing anything, things will only get worse
>>522105365shut the fuck up, Corsair has always the top of the line hardware paired with amazing customer support. the only other brand I'd consider is Crucial.
>>522105030>CL36 sheesh, why even bother
>>522105365What brand is the high grade then?>>522105391I have the first one since my laptop couldn't fit nothing else.
>>522105497its scamsair
>>522105531What's wrong with the photo?
Hyperinflation isn't a bubble, it is an exponentially growing curve where thin air loses its value at a geometric rate because it has no fundamental substance beyond Jewish currency money printing, which means any time-window you can choose in the past, the inflation going forward with same time window width in the future, will be many magnitudes higher relative to the window_width. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMyLbPvjTvgA Bubble and its bursting is something that can only happen to assets priced in quantities of thin air that has a foundation of a ponzi.Therefore the shape of the The new RAM memory stick bubble burst, will only be somewhat related to the Housing bubble burst, and those will be different from the NFT bubble bursting, the baseball card bubble bursting.What you're trying to ask about is where and how do we get a cascade reaction of bubbles bursting bubbles? How do burst one bubble without making that one burst all the others?The talmud book 4 applies to exactly this, when the shabis get wise to the esav's coin shaving machine and paper hanging holocaust. There is a set of steps to fool God with a Messiah and the Shabis threshold.
>>522105030thats not because of the bubble (well i mean the entirety of gdp is a bubble/pyramid scheme, but i assume you are talking about nvidia/ai/oracle microbubble within the gdp bubble)ram prices are this high because tariffs do increase the price for the consumer.dont like it?either dont do tariffs when you dont hold the cards, or stop importing replacement h1b and force companies to pay for worker training the old way.
>>522105405>What is this?It's for playing Dance Dance Revolution 5 (DDR5)Kids love that game for some reason.
i bought 64GB DDR5 6000 six months ago for 270 bucks. today it's going for 630 at the same retailer. exact same kit down to the code.
>>522105405While the example is for gaymer RAM, there currently is a demand glut for "memory" modules, which are used in everything from gayming computers, telcom equipment, to enterprise hardware. The manufacturers are skeptic of said bubble, so they are not ramping up production. As a result, down the production chain, there will be an increase of prices while simultaneously less options as companies focus on higher profit margin products
Ram Investors doing good
I stole all my computer parts from other incel chud 4chan posters using my eggmobile with extendo-arm.
16 gigs was the sweet spot ten years ago. Is 32 the new sweet spot?
>>522105791My PC is from 2019.
>>522105030Bubble? Just a couple days ago we found out nvidia was making even more money than we thought! It's not a bubble until the price goes up without the earnings following.
>>522105579They sell it has 'high spec', but laptop ram is more responsive.
>>522105579nothing, it's 6400mhz, of course the CAS latency is gonna be slightly higher than a slower kit.
>>522105274This.
>>522105977Oh I see I see thanks anon
>>522106064For a second I thought the photo had misleading information
>>522105309>>522105319So AI both makes the parts more expensive and pollutes the internet at the same time, great
>>522105977retard, you should read this although I don't expect your dumbass to understand any of it but if you can, maybe you'll stop bullshitting this thread>https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/what-is-cas-latency-ddr5-latencies-explained/
Prices never fall. We are in the hyperinflation period of American downfall.
>>522106452You are stupid.I was using CL1 latency ram at one point, I absolutely know what I am talking about.
>>522105030>>>/g/>>>/biz/
AI is the only think keeping GDP afloat. If the AI bubble pops, we hit a major recession and you wouldn't be able to afford RAM even at $50 after mass layoffs.
>>522105274Yes, house prices when down after the 2008 recession world wide.
>>522106541>shit flinging retard flings more shit
>>522106642Jeet detected.
And you idiots actually thought you were going to run your own local AI and make your own porn videos at home. You'd need terabytes of ram to do that and terabytes of vram and a large amount of NVMe storage. So yes, for about $50K you can buy a rendering rig to make a 10 minute video of you banging Belle Delphine using about $50 worth of electricity. Cheers!
>>522106642>https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/what-is-cas-latency-ddr5-latencies-explained/>>522106452Ouch, jeets will never recover.
>>522106452My dude, 6400 CL42 is slow as fuck for today's standards.
>>522106782It is, but X3D CPUs are also largely neutering RAM importance.
>>522106782Jeets didn't compute in the glory days of sub 10ns ram access.
>>522106947>glory>400HzYeah uh...
>>522106782no it's not, and you can overclock the shit out of corsair kits, your Gskill garbage is already pegged out of the box.
>>522107008It raided MC at 20fps, and played every game that is known to be good.Got Milk?
>>522107109GTFO
Still have my non descript crucial 32gb sticks from 2020 until they fry
>>522107008You are so dumb, you think 3GB/s could be used back then?Meanwhile DDR5 is at:>64 GB/s assumes 8 GT/sYou won't even get full transfer speed because nothing will use the full banks or rows at once.You are almost always limited by latency for non-serial transfers because the ram access is to fill cpu cache.
>>522106845You still lose a bit on 1% lows with an X3D chip with slower RAM, but yah X3D def helps hide the issue a bit.>>522107051>The RAM isn't slow, you just need to run it at not CL42 and hope it works with those settingsSo what you're saying is I'm right that 6400 C42 is slow.
>>522107190Post your ram, so we can laugh.
>>522105391>CAS 40Gee I fucking wonder why.
>>522105030i bought 32gb of 7000 DDR5 3 months ago im feeling good
All of this equipment got tooled over to AI shit production, even if AI doesn't use the same equipment it can use some of the same machinery after re-tooling.So basically wait until AI crashes, otherwise anything that can be remotely tooled to be used by it in some way goes up 2-10x in cost. We haven't even seen the worst of it yet, you are no longer the primary consumer the market is producing for. They're producing for multi-trillion dollar company's research projects.
>>522105030ahaha pc building is a thing of the past now.
>>522107764They don¨'t even have to retool. SSDs, RAM, CPUs, GPUs, etc. are all just silicon chips made on wafers and its all the same machines making all the high end stuff. People basically bid for wafer area and they're just bidding up the prices to insane levels because there's so much money in AI. The only saving grace has been that the leadtime to these contracts is fairly long but since we're not seeing any large expansion in wafer area production, we're probably gonna see everything spiking fairily soon. Expect CPUs and SSDs to double in price as well fairly soon.
>>522108094Intel would have an advantage if their new fabs.......
>>522105030You do not need anything fancy to play anything worthwhile. Most hardware has a 10 year shelf life at the moment.
>>522105710>The manufacturers are skeptic of said bubble, so they are not ramping up production.Probably has a lot more to do with colluding for price fixing. Those 3-4 major RAM producers have so much cash reserves they could have capabilities for huge sudden demand and just trail it by 3 or so months. They don't so that they can all have the margins they do with no one within their group competing to force them to lower prices. The investment required for them to increase production capacity is nothing like it is for cpu makers
>>522105030This is why: https://youtu.be/W_xFojmMOZQ?si=P7azMTziheot29h9TLDR: it’s AI
Man I'm so glad I built my new machine last black Friday, I already had the GPU and prices on the rest of the shit wasn't bad. 96gb 6400mhz ram / 9950x
>>522105710>the demand is high, so the price is highIt's amazing that people lived full lives without the need for the fastest processing speeds and best telcom equipment, and they did so only a few years ago.Why do I need a faster and faster computer every single year? Every version of Windows just gets more bloated and resource-dependent with every update. They just cram more spyware and bullshit effects on to things, and make you think you need more RAM. What you really need is to just shut it off.
>>522108756Fucking this, they're price fixing again aren't they, cause we live in a libertarian hellscape
>>522105030AI slop is just a front, they commercialized it on purpose. This is the real reason data centers are being forced into every small town, they need to expand the infrastructure to store everyone's data, they want to use AI for total govt mass surveillance. It’s why they are trying to end local accounts on Windows, they want every single thing you do to be synced on the cloud, because then it becomes their property. They can dig through everything from your wife's nudes, financials, pics of your kids, browsing history or cached files from browsing 4chan or any other site and scan it for "child abuse" but we know they won't stop there, it'll be memes and hate speech next.They will keep building and the demand for consumer grade PC components will continue to skyrocket. They will keep price gauging even after production increases.Welcome to hell. The internet is on life support before it's fully locked down by cartoonishly evil jewish corpos, the wild west days are over. Digital ID's are here to come and the big brands we all loved like Microsoft, Apple and Google are now run by evil Jews who are turning their mission for evil and control. Oracle, Palantir, Flock, Clearview facial recognition scraping the entire internet, all new venture capitalist, govt bribed & contracted, billionaire funded mass data collection companies for the a privatized justice system. The US is a full blown corporation now and not in the way that those liberal 70’s hippies were sayingNew massive private prisons are also being constructed all around the US, prepare for huge crackdowns and mass raids.
>>522110391In under 5 years no one will be able to easily tell what is AI and what is not. That will drive people offline. A surveillance state will only work if people say yes and do not drag it through the courts. People are going to demand verifiable information with little to no digital input and they are going to crash the companies that try to put them in the matrix. They have spent the last 25 years making people more angry online and the end of it is people using that vindictive training to ruin their plans.
>>522108990Because game developers slide unoptimized shit out of their ragged gaping assholes and instead of not buying it and demanding better quality, the retarded whales gobble it all up and call you poor for having better money sense than they do. In reality they're all debtmaxxing not as a strategy but out of stupidity.
>>522105030Do any smart fags know why i would need more than 16 gbs of ddr5?
>>522105695I bought picrel for €235 in spring.
>>522105849Dont tell us you also need to send today a telegram at the post office to the emperor of siam gramps
>>522105598What do you do for a living if you don’t mind my asking?
>>522105030I'm just gonna stick w/ my ddr3
>>522110391Once the government is watching me masturbate, what then?
Bought these for 184 € recently.Which was already overpriced.
>>522106718Laptop is SODIMM, which is a formfactor. Speed is entirely different from that.Anyway timings make at most 10% difference to the overall system and that assumes a timing sensitive workload.
>>522105086That's pretty standard at this point. I mean yeah there may be a slight RGB tax in there but even "no frills" 32GB DDR5-6000 is $250+.The issue is that supply is drying up and the RAM manufacturers are prioritizing making server RAM for datacenters over consumer grade shit. When you can sell higher density RAM with no end in sight, why would you bother manufacturing much for the plebs?
>>522105030Kek. Back in the late 90s, early 00s, you paid almost the same for MBs, not GBs, due to the big earthquake in Taiwan that destroyed a bunch of ram factories. So shut the fuck up, zoomer. You don't know what suffering is.
>>522111738And they already can get standard SODIMM orders for OEMs to pace manufacturing. There is not much of an aftermarket SODIMM market compared to desktop PCs.
>>522111925There was also price fixing...
>>522111732Hate how they cover everything in retarded plastic shit these days. It looks so cheat.>>522111738SODIMMITE
>>522111587Who told you?
When do you guys actually run out of RAM? I'm still on 16GB of DDR4 that I bought for like $30 and it's fine.
>>522111968Probably. Fact is that ram was fucking expensive back then. I remember I paid like 250 dollars for 256 MB DDR2 or 3. Been so many years I can hardly remember. Just remember that I had to slash my savings.
>>522112030To be honest 16GB is still more than enough for most people. They will act like these games "use a lot of RAM" but none of them are using 8GB and Windows can run fine on 4GB. So it's more or less a LARP.Now if you're running VMs and stuff I can understand the need. But even 32GB is pretty much way more than most people would need even heavy gaming.
>>522111727It’s about control. Deciding what porn you’re allowed to watch, and what societal and newly written man made laws they impose on you. Good goys have no problem following the status quo, but anyone controversial will be set up for prison or reeducation through probation. Tech like this is the governments wet dream, you are running hardware that makes the 2012 Snowden shit seem like child’s play. AI & TPM chips are back doored to hell, and if you use the cloud then there is no need for a back door. You are doing them a favor, running the taxing hardware to upload every MB of your computing experience to the cloud, which is literally someone else’s computer (Feds or evil data brokering corpos). They have everything about you, including cookies, DNS and IP logs sold to data brokers & the million other ways you are exposed and pwned. It’s a depressing reality but I keep digging into it, the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper. We are in for a dystopian hellscape and there’s nothing anyone can do about it
>>522112035Yup RAM was expensive for sure, more than a new board in some cases. I rocked an Pentium 3 500MHz that I upgraded to 512 RAM, felt like a boss.Windows 2000 was solid, still one of the best. XP was the last good Windows, especially with SP3. It's crazy the range of hardware you can run on it. I have a build to play old games that uses an Intel Core 2 Duo 3.4GHz and GeForce 980Ti, both have XP drivers.
>>522112067I've never hit a RAM bottleneck even with VR but I also never did anything with VMs or AI.
>>522105030The manufactures are betting on it popping by May or June of next year. It's the main reason why they are not producing more ram causing the price gouging due to A.I. sales. They're afraid that if they ramp up manufacturing it will oversaturate the market when the A.I. bubble bursts and they will lose money trying to sell their stock.We really don't know though. It could go on for many years and it could get much, much worse. I think if you have the cash to do it and it's not going to hurt you to do so, then go ahead and build a pc now, because prices will continue to climb across the board. GPUs are next to rise in price (again) as the shortage of ram will affect the cost of lower end and mid-tier graphics cards.
>>522112131Based. I never liked win 2000. It was one of those odd ones. XP for sure. Win 98 was also based. Took me a white to switch from 98 to XP. Probably didn't do that until 2003-4 or so. I didn't have enough money for a PIII, so had to settle for cheaper options like Cyrix, kek. Old hardware is very expensive these days. Would be more expensive to build a 1999 gaming rig today than it was back then. Should've just hoarded parts back then. Could've been rich by now.
>>522105030checked my receipts real quick and its real
>>522105030lol its not hope your prepaired for cpu's to skyrocket next or whatever meme crap happens
>>522112287There's a lot of FPGA projects that can emulate DOS/Win95 era x86. There's also a tiny x86 project where they are building a modern retro board with convenience like sd card, wifi, and L1/L2 cache disable with frequency adjustments in BIOS.
>>522112144I thought about building pc but everything is fucking gay now. Nobdoy even makes new cases with space for an optical drive because apparently wanting to watch 4k movies on my 42" oled display is outdated. Every case is just some iteration of a glass box with a side panel to hide everyone's poor cable management. Oh look! It has 9 fans and only costs 250usd. What a steal!
>>522105849>My PC is from 2019.3060s came out in 2021
>>522105030just slip it into your pocket wnd then buy a drink
>>522105030Just buy OEM valuram from China. Shit works fine
>>522105502kingston is top tier
>>522112367Sure. But it'll never be the same as the real deal. Old computers were so noisy. The fans, the modems, the harddrives. The start up beeps.. Miss it mane.
>>52211206732gb of ram will be fine for gaming until the next generation of consoles. Games scale with the consoles they run on.
Well shit
>>522112367By the way. Found the most epic youtube channel a while back. If you're into the more technical stuff, you should check out Branch Education's channel. Really nice visual illustrations.https://www.youtube.com/@BranchEducation
>>522105030AI isn't a "bubble," your ability to afford food will disappear before AI does
>>522112533That's a fair price under the current market. Your other option is to just get 32gbs or ram and cut the cost in half. Then if prices return to normal you can replace them with a 64gb kit.
>>522105274assuming the pop doesn't wipe out production, yes, the prices should go down
>>522111971Fits our fake, plastic world.Just bought it for the lightning, desu.Looked lovely, even though you can still see single LEDs.A complete joke, even for 180 €.
>>522112479imagine being a console gamer in 2025, still accepting excuses why you can't run games at 60fps
Is this monster just going to consume ever-increasing amounts of power, water, and hardware until everything humans make and do is geared toward feedings its growth or what?This is fucking retarded, I hope it is a bubble and it bursts soon.I feel like throwing a butlerian jihad against the abominable intelligence right about now.
>>522105030Why would you buy that overpriced shit?This is all due to AI demand btw.
hard drive prices are also up (again)
>>522111608serving humans answers via and if statements
>>522112030i hit 56GB RAM usage on that unreal engine 5 city tech demo kek
>>522112030I got 32gb when I built this thing in 2020. I wanted to upgrade my GPU this year but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen either, with my hours getting cut and the cost of living continuing to climb. I feel like we're all being price gouged and faith in the dollar is faltering.
>>522112759That's just absurd. Bloatware is a figurative cancer. Would be funny if this compelled game devs to actually optimize their slop instead of being so lazy and telling people to just BUY NEW PC LOL. Fucking assholes. Who the fuck am I kidding, everyone's just going to move into cloud gaming and we really will own nothing.
>>522112661Kek, true.
Ram is weirdly expensive right now, but most ordinary people, and even gamers, don't need more than 16GB of ram. You don't need more than 16GB of ram unless you're doing AI, 3d modeling, video editing, or similar on your PC. There are GPU's under $200 that will make every single video game on the market. You don't need the top of the line GPU unless, again, you're doing AI/productivity stuff on your PC locally. I just so happen to have a shit load of ram and an expensive GPU because I do work on my PC and the money I earn doing it made my PC pay for itself within a month. You can build a video game/Facebook machine for $500. Stop whining about real work PC's being expensive.
>>522105030it isn't a bubble they're expensive because of tariffs + inflation
Just wait until the steambox has to increase their price x500 because some faggot in Iowa wants to roleplay sex with an word macro for five hours.
>>522112030I regularly use 40+ gbs in heavily modded games. Skyrim and gigascale 4x games mostly.Also local ai models, particularly for text generation.
>>522105086DDR4 has also hiked up too.I have a Ballistix 3200MHz DDR4 16GB RAM kit, and that one is trending around 150 dollars too. I got those sticks in 2021.Needless to say, I did not upgrade when building my new PC this summer. At least my GPU was at a reasonable price.
>>522111797>kingston is out of stockffs, 5e best and thats whats going on? sheeeot. also i can get a 7800x3d cheaper than these ram prices.
This is Bidens fault!
>>522106326>buy up all the hardware>the hoi polloi now can't afford a computer that runs your gimmicky software
no point in upgrading anything until the AI Rubin GPUs start coming out in 2026 or 2027. Literally will make everything obsolete overnight.
>>522105030DDR - RAM is good RAMSED-approved for gaming comrades
>>522112825pussy, this is KSP with MEDIUM texture pack
There's three ram companies and they collude all the time. Then get hit with lawsuits and fines but the fines are never anywhere close to the profits they made by price fixing. Muh AI is just the excuse they are using this time. Fucking jews
>>522105086This ram used to be 80 bucks faggot.
>>522112402I only recently got that, it was a 1080ti prior.
>>522105030just wait until the taiwan war ahahahahahaha
>>522105299that shit is like 50% more than comparable RAM that isnt RGB
>>522106326It's even dumber, they bought up all the memory cards but then admit they have no data centers to use them in. Microsoft has an entire warehouse of RAM just sitting around not being used.
>>522105030>>522105086>>still using DDR5>lol
>>5221050305800x3d is gonna be the gtx 1080 of cpus, you can get a full cpu,mb and ram combo dor the price of a ddr5 kit,its insane
Do you even need 40 CL RAM for AI shit?It's all about massive matrix multiplications and those can be done in blocks. Latency is irrelevant when you move massive blocks of data.
its just another instance of people with a lot of money buying up all the supply so price skyrockets and they can resell it. gpus, concert tickets, houses, memory chips..
>>522105086That ser costs more than what my upper-end 96 GB kit cost back in May.Corsair is the cheap shit, it's at a slower speed, and at a lower capacity.Situation: all fucked up.
>>522106721Be quiet Belle and keep shaking your arse for me, you slaaaaaaa-ag!
>>522105849>>522114561>Move from 8GB VRAM to 4GBDumb cunt. Have fun 720p gaming
>>5221050302026 when the recession finally kicks in
>>522105086I know tons of normalfags like this. I think it’s because “they dont wanna look poor”
>>522116586Uhh, I have more considerably more VRAM now and the 1080 was past its prime. Neither had under 10GB of VRAM, so I don't know what you're talking about. The only advantage the 1080ti had was is a wider memory bus.
>>5221170254096MB VRAMis your appeture set to 4GB, or did you forget to enable 'Above 4G decoding" in BIOSbecause your system is reporting 4GB of VRAM
>>522117126Speccy misrepresents some things like that, it's an older version I haven't updated in many years.
>>522117158havent updated it to recognized 64-bit wide systems?doubtfulyou haven't got above 4G decoding enabled in BIOS, i bet.
>>522105030I bought my 32 at 80 nigger
>>522117205It is a well known issue from speccy users, and will happen to most cards because speccy is bad at that stuff. Also, 4G decoding wouldn't cause it to report like that regardless of its state. I have been on /g/ consistently for 12 years which is why I aUUUUUutistically use broken programs that don't work when free alternatives that are lightyears better are available.
>>522117319HWInfo is pulling the specs from the deviceIDcheck your BIOS bet you $10 that you have Above 4G decoding disabled.notriously disabled by default and even optimised profiles from nealry all board BIOS from X270-X27- era.
>>522105030The manufacturers aren't going to ramp up production when the next iteration is already being tooled up.
>>522117369>X270-X370- era.
>>522112030Try running a ram disk.
>>522117319>>522117369>>522117397if you have never enabled it manually on a x270/x370 board, then its disabled and VRAM above 4GB will be segmented and you are majorly gimping your card.you CAN still access the 12GB but really slow
>>522117447>segmentedpaged i mean
>>522117369I understand what you're saying, I've already dealt with this because I got my card specifically for cheap AI cooming and my friend warned me, but the reason it's displaying on Speccy like that was is due to a well-known issue with the program. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/uu7kgy/speccy_only_showing_half_of_the_memory_the_gpu_is/https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/4075/rtx-2060-super-showing-up-as-only-4095mb-in-speccyhttps://community.ccleaner.com/t/speccy-only-show-4gb-on-nvidia-3060-has-12gb/77781https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/224446945209362352/
>>522117501>I understand what you're sayinwell thats ok then, becasue it is a common trap cuntz fall in, and it will sometimes manifest itself by reading only one page of the total VRAM.some gams will do this too,
>>522117544I'm planning on getting a 4070 in a few days anyway but I'd much rather get a vintage casio watch with a barometer function.
>>522105977now show the capacity of the lower CL ram
Muh gaymes and muh ai. You faggots are so fucking lame, not ONE of you mentioned ramdisk.
>>522117660Nice i wouldnt say no to a 4090 just to slap a bow on mine, but i dont think i will be buying a new GPU for many generations. those 5000 series GTX are trash. shame you ditched that 1080Ti, that was a golden card /price/performance wise.3090 24Gb here. i wont be upgrading for a long time, nothing new is worth playing and i have enough for basic AI and compute workloads.Ryzen 5950X with 128GB RAM. And Win10 IoT LTSC until 2030. fuck the future bro
>>522117843fast SSDs made ramdisks obsolete
>>522105405>You would be a better person if, instead of video games, you had a cocaine addiction.true. at least there might be something marginally interesting to their worthless lives
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>>522117873I still have the ti I just have no reason to run it right now, I'll probably do something with it when I have more time.
>>522118218>I'll probably do something with it when I have more time.if you end up moving to a 50 seies you can use it as a secondary card for compute and PhysX.good on you for keeping it. classic card
>>522105030>finally decide 32gb of mid-range ddr4 isn't enough>"I'll just get another 2 sticks np">it's 1.7x the price it was 2 years ago despite everyone gushing over ddr5 by now>"haha silly merchants trying to bait, I'll just wait 2 weeks and it'll be back to normal">it's now 2.2x the original price>buy it
>>522106606Yes and so did a lot of people’s paychecks, retard. Thus, it still took years for many to afford those crashed prices.
>>522105086The problem is that idiots play old games.on new powerful oc and when you come with your old stuff , you lag compared to them.Rich idiots play old games on new powerful PCs. They ruined the games.
>>522105236>>522105086>top of the line>gay rainbow led
>>522105030$268 at my wholesaler's, you will have to wait for the prices to drop i'm afraid.
>>522105319>phone ram is different from PC/server RAM and that's not what there's a shortage. or maybe it /is/ affecting phone prices if they use the same partsThey're made at the same factory and chip fabricator that have limited time and production lines.
>>522118555>They're made at the same factory and chip fabricator that have limited time and production lines.>price fixing RAM is illegal and therefore has never happened beforehappened before, but the profit outpaces the penaltyits not rocket science, trading the RAM market for this reason has been common since the 30pin days, its not ' shoirtage'.it's not that AI is taking too much of the RAM availableit's price fixing organised by the manufacturers. nothing new and it happens in cycles
>>522105030OpenAI is buying bare DDR5 chips (not DRAM modules, unless they build a factory they will never be able to use the chips themselves). Apparently they are also buying old machinery that RAM manufacturers are retiring. Traditionally the old machinery gets passed down to Chinese RAM makers to make last gen RAM. It all seems OpenAI is doing these purchases to purposely shrink the global supply of RAM, with no real use of the products they are purchasing. This will make other AI competitors unable to build out new data centers.FAANG did something similar in 2021 and 2022, they hired many developers so other companies couldn’t get access to developers. However, there was no work to be given to the newly employed developers and they were all laid off in 2023 and 2024. The job market for software developers is now the worst it has been in decades.The RAM purchase agreements by OpenAI is bearish. Short term gain thinking, all that wasted money will cause OpenAI to burst.
>>522105274This. HDD prices never went down despite "le flood" passing and SSDs taking over.
>>522105030I have 64gb DDR4 in my PC. I will skip AM5 entirely.
>>522120816good man
>>522114561>replaced a 1080ti for a 3060that's a downgrade you dolt
>>522105497My RAM is CL36 is that bad or what?
>>522121568it's more complex than thatit also depends on frequency lower is better but at high frequencies it's harder to get lower CAS latency
After gpus and ram, what will be the next thing that will be eaten up by ai? I need to know so I can invest in it.
What the actual fuck. Glad I don't need to even think about this shit for 5 years now.
>>5221165863060's have 12gb vram
>>522105030who knows, but this shit has happened before so it'll probably pop again
>>522105030are jews really thinking this out? Feels like their hubris is a bit too much on this. The only reason that the elites aren't being mass slaughtered by young men is the opiate of video games keeping them dumb and distracted. Video games becoming too expensive for NEETs and losers to buy, and also western games being poisoned by DEIslop is going to start the rumbling.
>>522112293you dont even look at what you pay? fucking rich NL fag you prolly dont even use that comp
>>522122950>Glad I don't need to even think about this shit for 5 years now.I remember thinking this about graphics cards, and they have never come back down
>>522105030it's because the chinkoids run their AI on RAM because they're not allowed to buy the GPUs and this price hike was prominently announced 6 months ago on jewtube
>>522105695>i bought 64GB DDR5 6000 six months ago for 270 bucks. today it's going for 630I bought 64GB (2x32GB) of DDR5 5200 6 months ago for $14220 days ago it was selling new for $370 and today its $510The fuck lmao
What's the average RAM size, these days?I've purchased 2x16Go a couple of years ago. Never upgraded.
>>522105030I'm doing my next upgrade after the peasant next gen consoles get released.Even the ps5 only has the equivalent of a 2080 in it. And next gen consoles and handhelds can't guarantee 60 and 144 fps at all. LMFAO
r8 my fastfetch
>>522125346Jealous of the hard drives.Was going to upgrade mine recently but then looked at the user reviews of budget consumer ones in 2-4 tb range and it's such a letdown. Lots of people reporting failures within the first year, some models are filled with helium and it leaks out, others use some unreliable tech but there's some kind of a loophole that allows them to be marked as using the superior tech etc. All my HDDs, save for a portable 2tb one are between 10 and 16 years old by now. There's a dozen of them but they're relatively small in volume and can't fit on 1, or even 2, motherboards anymore and also hum.
>>522126027>Jealous of the hard drivesWell, what appears to be 4 8tb hard drives is actually just one hard drive with 4 different folders network mapped to my computer (one folder for media, one folder for web development, one folder for automation scripting, one for work)
>>522121568Yes. It downloads blacked porn while you're not looking.
>>5221050863200mhz for your daily even proffesional use is completely fine6000mhz ddr5 is not almost twice as fast, diminishing returns hit so hard you are at best gaining 10% and even that in very specific conditions
>>522105030Wtf. Bought 64GB for 200 euro like 1.5 years ago.
>>522105849>Intel-Aviv insideDon't make to many antisemitic memes if you don't want this thing to blow up.
>>522105030RAM needs to be so overpriced everyone will bleed.Only then the developers will finally start optimizing their games, back then games run at 60fps even with 32MB of RAM.Now just clean windows booted up eats 5GB of ram, while it should be 1GB TOP!!!!
>>522105030Welcome to hyperinflation Weimar.Enjoy your stay.Don't forget to pick up the wheelbarrows for your worthless currency.
>>522105030I got like 64 gigs in all my shit and use the cheaper shit and it's awesome. Don't be gay, op.
>>522105531>>522105579>>522105977>>522106064>>522106718>>522106541Caring about RAM latency is peak autism. All you guys do is play retarded vidya and goon anyway.
>>522126457Oh, alright then. Still, the plight of picking a good enough budget HDD is somewhat unexpected in >currentyear. Probably have to buy two and raid1 them. Haven't had a harddrive fail since 2007ish, but here we are.
>>522127671>Only then the developers will finally start optimizing their games, back then games run at 60fps even with 32MB of RAM.nigger, games are not optimized intentionally so you need to buy new hardwareit happened during 1080ti time when for first time hardware was being underutilized even in newest most demanding gamesRight about then Epic with Unreal engine starts suddenly proping upI think there was handshake between Nvidia and Epic>chill with optimization, here is nice chunk of cash so you can make Fortnite and make your engine as bloated as possible
