Wikipedia says it was "one of the most destructive conflicts in human history". What started as a minor dispute among Christians about specific practices in the 1550s ended up in full scale war by 1615 across the heart of the Holy Roman Empire (Germany) that wiped out half the population by 1648. Ten million Christians slaughtered each other, in the name of the Lord, for no good gosh darn reason!
>>522105526pr*testants aren't Christian.
>>522105526Pope couldn't defeat Luther's arguments so he started chimping out and killing everyone
>>522105685lol based luther
>>522105526Well, yes. Read some about it.
>>522105582You meant Papists.
In retrospect, things might have gotten a little out of hand.
>>522105582Catholics are gay pedos.
Like any war, there was a “justification” and then there were the actual reasons heads of state tried to take each other’s territory
>>522105685In the end. After the dust settled, and the smoke had cleared, Pope Innocent X still denounced the signing of the Peace of Westphalia in Muenster. He was all bitchy cause they did it without his official royal seal of permission or whatever it was he thinks was so important that they didn't. What a gut punch that must have been to everyone alive at the time who heard about it, irl. It's true he didn't start the war, but he could've handled that a little better instead of acting like a petty little faggot over the whole thing.
Its just like the heckin Empire of Man from my Warhammer game!
>>522105526Have you heard of the Taiping rebellion?
>>522105526Well yeah, Thirty Years War were about the first time when us Finns were anyhow remarkable. We still remember this as a glorious "Finland mentioned!" moment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psH6TQL1u7ABtw this was our march back then and it's one of the oldest marches still used.
>>522105526It boils down to whatever you can sweep under the rug.
>>522105526It's difficult to make a Hollywood movie about it that focuses on the Judeo-American protagonists responsible for winning the war through their steadfast belief in freedom and entrepreneurial ingenuity.
>>522105526The war had essentially three phases, the first of which ended in a total victory for the Habsburg emperor against Denmark and the German protestants. In the second phase, Sweden intervened on the side of the German protestants and achieved a series of victories that marked a high point for its status as a great power. After the German protestants had made peace with the emperor, Sweden allied with France (a Catholic power) against the emperor. The Treaty of Westphalia essentially prevented an early unification of Germany under the House of Habsburg. Maintaining the independence of their little domains had been a major motive for the German protestant lords. Sweden and Denmark did not want an Imperial Navy in the Batlic Sea. France was fighting against the House of Habsburg, which also owned Spain, in order to avoid being totally surrounded.
>>522108182Sounds like a massive shitshow. No wonder so many people fled the continent. My ancestors must have saw this awful unholy stuff going down all around them and bugged the fuck out.
>>522105526Casualty figures were very high because standing armies were too expensive to maintain at the time. The mercenary hordes therefore had to be fueled by robbing, plundering, extorting whatever was available from the land itself, leaving the people with nothing to live on. The soldiers also spread plagues that killed the weakened remnants. There is a novel about this time written by Hermann Löns where local peasants band together to kill any foreigner they could find. "Der Wehrwolf" is its title.
>>522106953The ping-pong ding-dong?
>>522105526Yeah, anyone who isn't historically illiterate knows it.Basically World War zero.
>>522108609Putting themselves under foreign control did not achieve anything positive for German-Americans. It just meant that they can now boast about helping to eradicate all Germans both in Germany and in America, after we survived the horrors of the Thirty Years' War. It's why I hate German-Americans so much.
It wasn't just a religious war. Significant tensions had been brewing for years, particularly due to the shift in economic power from the Mediterranean into Northern Europe. It's like simply blaming WW1 on nationalism (which makes no sense given it was largely a war of imperialist global powers squabbling for control).
>>522105526>Ten million Christians slaughtered each otherThere were about 200,000 combat deaths. The other 8 million they counted anyone who died of any cause in the area, a bit like they counted anyone who had had covid in the previous month as a "covid death".
>>522109025>It's why I hate German-Americans so much.I'm sorry my ancestors let you down. It wasn't my decision.
>>522109183That is every premodern war most of the deaths are from disease starvation exposure etc. and a smaller percent are deaths in combat
