my wife is a housewife but fucking useless does that count? kid goes to day care and doesn't do shit. does some 'art'.

>>522111975
>housewife
>daycare
no it doesn't count, greetings from Kazakhstan

>>522111624
Just get a fat lazy chick and put her ozempic

>>522111624
>>be lonely sperg, not ugly or disgusting, just socially retarded
>>spend most of my time at home following personal pursuits, but sometimes travel/do whatever, otherwise just stack and save
The type of women who become stay at home moms won't date a loser

>>522112675
>financially independent
>can do whatever I want
>do it
>loser
normalfag niggercattle detected

>>522112548
>Just get a fat lazy chick and put her ozempic
That doesn't work, unfortunately, because fat women are awful people

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>>522111624
You're still assuming that you're supposed to meet her as an equal. She's not, she's like a child so treat her like one (as in when a parent has to invent some bullshit to get their children to go along).
So you don't find a housewife, you make her. Pull her strings, manipulate her, do what's necessary - they're all fundamentally the same and as easy to play as a fiddle. Remember leave and cleave principle from the Bible - to be yours she must be removed from outside and become as much a part of you as you are distanced from everyone else - you are in charge of her autonomy and boundaries, she's not. You remove all unnecessary circles of friends and family (yes, even her mommy and daddy - they're the worst when it comes to ruining relations) that might influence her and your relationship with her. That's one of the most important parts, most guys skip it like idiots thinking it'll be fine. Treat that as a ring0 vulnerability that you must patch out - women are hypersocial and lack filters for being influenced. It may become overwhelming, but only as much as running your own security on your setup, instead of relying on an antivirus. It makes your job easy, because she's susceptible to you - but it's also a vector through which you might lose her. If she's resisting your influence and you don't see progress being made - just drop the effort, she's too far gone and simply not worth it.

>>522113147
>Treat that as a ring0 vulnerability that you must patch out
Kek

>>522113263
>>522113147
anon, you are essentially suggesting that I groom someone to be a housewife, which is just too exhausting. Her dad was supposed to do all that shit. It's really difficult and time consuming to minimize the amount of influence other people in a woman's life have over her, especially if she's the typical dumb whore today who uses Instagram and TikTok and such things. Your ideas are sound but I don't know how that is practicable or sustainable. Are you married?

>>522113328
>dad was supposed to do all that shit
Did you just day boomers screwed us?! WHO COULD IMAGINE?!?!?! The biggest cucks ever were boomers, they sold us out for a carnival cruise.

>>522111975
Both you and your housewife who lets strangers raise your children are shitty parents.

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>>522113451
>EPBP
Eleventh Post Best Post

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>>522113328
Basically grooming, yes. And nope on the dad part - the dad's job is to hold that security down, until he hands her off to you. then the labor is yours and its never over, unless you're willing to go innawoods with her.
Weening her off from social media is a bit tough, true that. But that handles itself when she's worked. From the post above - you might get a wrong impression, as is often the swing in the opposite direction that men take. Either treating them as equal, or trying to be parents who spoil them. She's not a literal child, she can work to your benefit properly, but you need to take charge of it. She won't appreciate the comforts and provisions you give her - she'll manipulate you for more. Work her, give her something to do, if you see something as non-harmful time sink (say, she likes some harmless hobby, like i don't know, herbariums or something) - encourage it. Just take up her time so she doesn't have it for social media. She'll only feel appreciated for it.
Just look if she's pliable enough from the start - that means she's attracted to you enough that you'll be able to finish through the process. If you encounter significant resistance to your suggestions, and her being argumentative, not attempting to accommodate you - she never liked you, it's not that she is such - that just means she'd submit to some other guy, or wallow in misery if not. So don't waste time on chasing. You lead or you don't.
No, not married and not planning to. Having a dependency relationship like that would cover your side, and unless you really want it to break - why are you expecting to further your losses? No. She'll understand too, it's mostly peer (or motherly) female social pressure on her side that drives her to marry, without any rationale. She may exploit it later, but she usually doesn't start off thinking that she'll get something out of you.

>>522114014
>the dad's job is to hold that security down, until he hands her off to you
I disagree completely, a good father will instill values/morals in his daughter, or at least keep her on the res and teach her things that will help keep her there when she's no longer in his care. I would never take a warm body approach to raising a daughter. They need more than food and water and a roof; kids need guidance, especially girls.
>She won't appreciate the comforts and provisions you give her - she'll manipulate you for more
I don't understand this part and I doubt I ever will.
> She may exploit it later, but she usually doesn't start off thinking that she'll get something out of you.
100% has not been my experience across a range of women—they absolutely do think of it transactionally and act accordingly. Rich, poor, trashy, classy, doesn't matter

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>>522114262
>a good father will instill values/morals in his daughter
Yeah, guidance is all fine and good. But it's going into one ear and out the other. There's nothing to hold to for that guidance to stick, she's not the same rational type you think she might be.
>I don't understand this part and I doubt I ever will.
You don't let her leisure in comforts, you keep her busy, starting from all the small things to finally managing much of the housework. Women are naturally anxious creatures - use that. Let her do some menial planning and preparations for stuff, take up her time by something that involves her and your relationship. What's so hard to get? Always work out her "taking care" muscle, don't let her idle, don't just invest only your effort - hers too. She should restlessly sink her own effort and time into the relationship, instead of it just being unilateral. And, as just so happens, by keeping busy she is unable to get distracted by and to outside influences. And she'll be too tired to care to pursue anything else. How do you think basketcase bums and wifebeaters keep their relationships? The keep their women's hands full with their issues - you just need do the same, productively.
>100% has not been my experience across a range of women
You don't understand it then. It's not her attitude going in with you - these are instilled outside influences, to "go get it girl". By themselves, they're have very whimsical, fleeting motivations. When cut off from external source - it disappears pretty quickly, if she's attracted enough to tolerate you. And you must supplant these external motivations oh hers with your own, as you are well equipped to do. Otherwise she'll get swept up by the next thing or guy that piques her interest.

>>522111624
>>522114262
But to close it off, if you don't do it with the woman you'd prefer - even any subpar woman you'll "settle with" will give you a broken relationship. You don't need to lowball yourself, or who you could or couldn't handle - just posture and apply yourself properly, and most of them will get unlocked. But that constant pussy chasing (i don't know how to translate the nuance of пиздocтpaдaльcтвo - suffering for a cunt? pussy passion? whatever - you're got it) - it will just stop feeling both as rewarding and as painful as it used to, after you comprehend and crack their fundamentals down.

>>522114805
>Always work out her "taking care" muscle, don't let her idle, don't just invest only your effort - hers too. She should restlessly sink her own effort and time into the relationship, instead of it just being unilateral.
great in theory but this takes tons of energy unless they're head over heels for you in my experience and doesn't last forever even if they are
how can you say these things if you aren't married and never have been btw

Yes housewives exist. The real parasites and welfare queens. I actually agree with feminists when they call women niggers of the sexes. Same loud vile obnoxious good for nothing subhumans who leech off successful men.

>>522115525
>in my experience
>doesn't last forever
>takes tons of energy
just cause you're lazy doesn't mean it doesn't work.
>how can you say these things if you aren't married and never have been
do i need to eat the shit I'm served, to gain some expertise and qualification to speak about it? "Marriage" as it exists today is completely irrelevant to what happens relationally. Why do you even put any worth on it?
If you're worried how it breaks your conservative brain - you're not thinking straight. Marriage is a sexual union between man and woman. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. 1 Corinthians 6:16 - and that is exactly definitionally what marriage is - becoming one flesh. You don't need a ceremony, just to understand a mechanism and utilize it properly.
>great in theory
it's great actually, when you care to apply it, but just as I said - your simpery and pussy passion would subside once you understand how women work.

>>522115591
>I actually agree with feminists when they call women niggers of the sexes.
what feminist is saying this lmao
>>522115874
>just cause you're lazy doesn't mean it doesn't work.
it works as long as they have the pussy tingles for you, have you been in a relationship over 7 years? It's exhausting to keep up and it's like you said if they give you shit they aren't interested - but it's not because they never were, it's because they are fickle

You've got two options my friend:
1. Be rich and any woman will happily oblige no matter how ugly you are.
2. Be a traditionalist Catholic and find a woman in church. 9 times out of 10 they will have already been brought up to accept this, so you can't go wrong here.

Extra points for the tradcath one as you'll get a quality woman rather than a moneywhore

>>522115967
>It's exhausting to keep up
>they give you shit
>they are fickle
because you skipped a step. you let them keep their circles of outside influence. It's simple as. and yes, even her family is an outside influence - they are not there for your relationship with her, they are contrary to it. Once these circles are cut, and you had time to build up your codependence as a unit - it becomes much easier, internal effort mostly ceases and you just need to stay on guard for the creep of outsiders. You must understand that women are completely incapable of guarding their own autonomy, that includes relations, emotions rational thought, and controlling their bodies too. They're easy to manipulate - that's a boon and a curse, so you must utilize it properly.

>>522116056
>1. Be rich and any woman will happily oblige no matter how ugly you are.
idk why poor people say this, this is not real lol, maybe if you are genuinely wealthy and you're regularly dining at five star establishments with bills in the $10ks or something but not if you're just normal "rich" like you can live in a nice part of LA, there's literally no advantage
>Be a traditionalist Catholic and find a woman in church
Have you done this? This seems like something people say online but in practice I've never seen a single, attractive woman who was actively looking for a boyfriend/husband at church or even open to the idea. Maybe if you knew their family or something...

>>522116056
>Be rich and any woman will happily oblige no matter how ugly you are.
How rich? I have a million dollars and women still ignore me.

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>>522111624
My wife is a housewife. The only catch is she wasn't born in the US. She is a Serbian immigrant. I spent years dating white Americans. They're shit. White American women are useless, spoiled, degenerate.....all the memes posted here. Most of them were Christians too, so anyone that says "just go to church bro" is full of shit. Maybe there are some decent girls here, but they're probably sub 6s and/or fat. The other problem is finding a job with a wage that supports her staying at home isn't common anymore. I make $200k+ per year

My wife was a sexy 8 in her prime. A solid 7 now after 3 kids. She homeschools all 3. Runs then to way too many sports/events/lessons/playdates. Cooks at least 1 meal per day. Maintains a garden. Does housework and laundry. I chip in when I can but she just handles it if I'm stressed from work or busy. Get you an eastern euro girl, fellas. Not all will have the same result but better chance that with western women

Pic related: American princesses

>>522116240
>you let them keep their circles of outside influence.
Women today consider it abuse if you cut them off from their toxic influences. I was able to pull that off in the past, but it didn't last, and unless you're planning on going full Uncle Ted and not letting them have a phone, this isn't realistic in 2025. I'm not sure about Russia but it just doesn't work here in the US. They will gossip about your insane controlling behavior after things go south for any reason.
> You must understand that women are completely incapable of guarding their own autonomy, that includes relations, emotions rational thought, and controlling their bodies too. They're easy to manipulate - that's a boon and a curse, so you must utilize it properly
Sure, but see above

>>522116371
>Get you an eastern euro girl, fellas
I've heard nothing but horror stories about this... do you have any tips?

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>>522112548
Lazy is the worst attribute because once lazy always lazy

>>522116326
>Have you done this? This seems like something people say online but in practice I've never seen a single, attractive woman who was actively looking for a boyfriend/husband at church or even open to the idea. Maybe if you knew their family or something...
People like this are born into it and it only happens in the extremely rare remaining conservative communities and in that case you would already be married in your early 20s. Basically just a variation of finding your wife in High School before she become a complete whore.

>>522113147
This definitely works.

Women must be molded
>Whoa is me. All women are leftists
Women will ALWAYS lean toward the political affiliation of their man. Key word in that sentence is "man." If you're a weak, spineless boy she will walk all over you. If you are a true testosterone-fueled man, she willl gravitate toward your beliefs. You can't just lay the hammer down but coerce and explain in bits and pieces.

>>522116382
>They will gossip
Oh, boohoo. And that's where you're scared away from going far enough. They're irrelevant. Are you actually abusing her? If no, then who the fuck cares, and what would they even be able to do about it? Cut you out from their social circles? That's your goal to being with. Drag her off from you? That's better to lose her early if she doesn't have it for you and chooses to go along with her priors. And it's her circles that think that is abuse, she just listened and internalized it. If she entered a relationship to begin with, that's attraction right there, anything else is a detraction from it. Same goes for why women "lose value" and almost never gain it - circumstances only detract from it. Same shit happens real time in a relationship. These are vicious loops, so you break it - and the cycle dissipates quickly if there is attraction to begin with, and you didn't let toxicity fester.

no cuz men r broke a shit these days. and if they have money they buy toys

>>522111624
In ten years you'll be able to buy one for the same price as a cheap new sedan and a little bit of electricity

cuz u ugly af mf. 1 shotted dat bih ya dig?

>>522116591
You think it ends at gossip? Doesn't matter if you really are abusing them, they will spin it that way. I googled that term you used above and it's from some Russian redpiller lmao... anon, what is your longest relationship? Some of what you're saying is true, absolutely, but I don't think it's realistic to find an adult American woman and strip her of her social media access or friends/family in 2025, that is almost unheard of

>>522116657
I hate this place

>>522116688
>ugly cope noises

>>522116710
if u were sexo youd have ur lonely fatty fr. become the sexo

>>522111624
My wife was a house wife for 7 years but now she works and I stay home. Ehhh...I dunno man, it could be worse.
Bur there is one thing nobody wants to talk about: someone has to stay home with the kids. Women can work sure, but that means men can't. It is a zero sum game, women's professional success comes directly at the cost of men - or you can't have kids. Simple as that.

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>>522116657
women don't care. We literally have a saying (from women) that their man should be barely more attractive than a gorilla, and that's genuinely how they operate. Checks out in everyday observation. The exception is a fashionable (so external) obsession with twinky boys, that passes as soon as they switch social circles.
>>522116688
3 years, and that's irrelevant. your shift to cope is noted

>>522116408
No. I got lucky. She was born and raised in a small village in the middle of Croatia. Her dad farmed. They came here after the war. We just happen to work in the same place when she was 19 and sparks flew. She was cold as ice at first. Really really closed off. They kinda tend to keep to their own. Her parents were surprised when we got together, not rude about it just surprised. Her folks are amazing. It really does boil down to good parenting.

Being a daddy's girl is not the same thing. That just means her idiot father spoiled her so she will expect the same of you. If she talks about how amazing her dad is but never mentions mom, run for your life

>>522116757
see >>522113015
>>522116781
being a househusband sounds alright desu
>that is a correctly spelled and accepted word in English
kek

>>522111624
Yes.

>>522116842
>and that's irrelevant
it's 100% not irrelevant. Ever heard of the 7-year itch?

>>522116868
>If she talks about how amazing her dad is but never mentions mom, run for your life
w-what does that mean

>>522111624
>Do housewives exist in 2025?
Yes, but the chuds have been priced out. You need to make $250-300k minimum to make the whole “housewife” thing work logistically.

>>522116781
100% true

And if you can handle being the stay at home dad, credit to you. I love my kids to death but I can't imagine spending all my time with them the way my wife does. It sounds fun but it's overwhelming

>>522116942
>You need to make $250-300k minimum to make the whole “housewife” thing work logistically.
not if you live in Ohio

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>>522116875
>>522116890
>being a househusband sounds alright
>heard of the 7-year itch
aight, enough with you. You're a delusional lost case. You had some glimpse of wisdom there though - thinking to marry a rando foreigner. Why do you think these relations work in the first place? Exactly the mechanism I described - their lack of social circles, so don't be a retard and just apply yourself
>>522116868
> If she talks about how amazing her dad is but never mentions mom, run for your life
great tip, princesses are the worst

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>>522116910
In my experience....when a girl is a daddy's girl, it's cuz daddy souled her. Mom's don't spoil daughters. So if she puts dad on a pedestal but mom is an after thought, then she and mom don't really get along and that's also bad....not as bad as daddy issues, but bad. She may exude all the qualities of a "trad wife," but she will expect you to spoil her. Entitled, insufferable cunts. Please them or suffer

Also From what I've seen, 9 out of 10 of these get fat. Like gross fat. Formerly pretty girls turn into Jabba.

I would bet everything I own that Charlie Kirk's whore widow adores her father and puts up with mom.

>>522113147
None of that is legally enforceable anymore. Once you have children together, she can always take them from you and receive a large cash prize from the government as a reward, no questions asked. Your fatherless bastard son will then spend the rest of his days browsing 4chan.

>>522111624
My ex was like this. I broke up with her because we had no future.
She wanted to be a "kept woman" and not work, but she also didn't want kids. She just wanted to sit around all day, eat weed gummies, fuck, and read gay fanfics.
Dream NEET gf until you realize that someone has to pay the bills, and if you get sick or injured then both of you are homeless (women get into shelters, men die on the street).
Plus you have to fund their retirement fully because they won't get Social Security or anything.

>>522117113
>aight, enough with you. You're a delusional lost case.
lol I know the deal with househusbanding, doesn't mean it's not a nice fantasy, and no advantage to shitting on that guy
> Why do you think these relations work in the first place? Exactly the mechanism I described - their lack of social circles, so don't be a retard and just apply yourself
I know this works, it's just not realistic at all. Finding a woman like this or arranging this situation is low likelihood, and doesn't necessarily work long term. People need community, including women. No man is his wife's only social contact lmao. The best way to apply what you're saying in practice here in the US is to become Amish or something where all of the other ladies in the community have similar values/lifestyle/practices

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>>522113147
>Treat that as a ring0 vulnerability that you must patch out
Eщe oднo дoкaзaтeльcтвo тoгo, чтo cлaвянe caмыe yмныe люди нa этoм пpoклятoм caйтe.

>>522117248
>She just wanted to sit around all day, eat weed gummies, fuck, and read gay fanfics.
>didn't want kids
kek
I'm not saying I want someone totally unambitious, just not necessarily someone who needs constant stimulation or to keep up with some imaginary trendy goal like muh travel to exotic destinations or .. whatever is popular on youtube/tiktok
if you know what i mean

>>522111624
You don't get it. Never did. The problem ain't the women, friendo. It's that you're out there looking for something that don't exist. Peace. Simple relationship. Like ordering off a menu.

World don't work that way. Every choice you make, every path you take - it all leads somewhere. You chose to be lonely. Chose to be sperg. Chose to blame them for what you are.

Southeast Asian hooker won't fix what's broken inside you. Just another transaction. Another coin toss you think will come up heads this time.

You want to know why it's difficult? Because you're already dead. Walking around, posting on boards, but dead all the same. Been that way long time. Maybe always been that way.

>>522117315
woah how do you have a US flag if you can speak Russian like that??

>>522114014
>вpaг бyдeт paзбить
You are not a real Russian. Probably an illiterate Churka.

>>522117333
trying to figure out what this is a reference to without googling it kek

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Last post from me: just so you guys know, I was a neet, depressed single loser for most of my 20s. Dated occasionally but never found a woman worth a shit. Until I met my wife. And then everything flipped.

I had a shotgun barrel in my mouth and the only reason I didn't pull the trigger is knowing my mom would find the mess. That's what a loser I was, that I even considered the cowards way out.

I gave up on women, started trying to improve my shit FOR ME then it happened. You've heard people say it but it's true for me.

Now I have a great career, 3 kids, all the fixins.... Don't give up on that dream. There are girls worth a shit out there, just gotta find them

>>522115967
>what feminist is saying this lmao
Yoko Ono
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_Is_the_Nigger_of_the_World

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>>522117155
My sister is one. Drove her first husband to suicide.
>Please them or suffer
yep. Few other girls of that type i knew were like this too.
>she and mom don't really get along
the opposite case, of when a girl clings to her mom and hates dad is even worse in the way that she'll always, ALWAYS take the opinion of her mother over any benefit to your relationship if she simply didn't listen.
>>522117237
>reward, no questions asked
not in civilized countries. but you don't get pity from me, work with what you've got.
>People need community
>including women
so you didn't get point at all

>>522116240
>you let them keep their circles of outside influence.
It's impossible to stop this unless you plan on living off-grid without internet and don't interact with anyone else.
Even if your woman isn't consuming social media brainrot, everyone around you is.

>>522117407
You want to google it? Go ahead. Won't find yourself there neither. Just more questions without answers. More paths that lead nowhere.

That's your problem. Always looking for references. Always looking for meaning in other people's words instead of making your own choices.

>>522117255
>>522117481
the latter part is meant for (you)
>>522117398
>didn't get that all asian belong to us
she's clearly not russian, you moron. just a fangirl
>>522117495
I just explained how you do it, without going off grid. Keep em busy enough, and it happens naturally

>>522117455
based Yoko
>>522117416
post actual advice
>>522117481
>Drove her first husband to suicide.
Jesus, dude
Everything you're saying is giving me PTSD flashbacks from the various awful whores I've dated

>>522116942
>Yes, but the chuds have been priced out. You need to make $250-300k minimum to make the whole “housewife” thing work logistically.
Your home must be worth well over a million if your mortgage is that bad. Other than that have no idea what you'd need that kind of money for. Certainly not food, electricity, water, gas or internet.

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>>522117627
>Keep em busy enough, and it happens naturally
This presumes a sane system of internalized values: hard-working, willing to learn, motivated, tenacious, etc.
These qualities are absent in larger society except in the upper echelons of society (women from such families cannot be found on dating sites or picked up at a cafe or other typical places).
The last remaining place one would find a hard-working woman is from a poor family, but those women have a different set of problems: scarcity mindset, bad influences from childhood, broken homes, etc. They are adapted and constrained by poverty and trauma.
I have seen many men like you preaching this redpill nonsense that boils down to "just control her and maintain frame bro". It simply doesn't work in a corrupt society. You are just as delusional as the hippies were: even hippie communes had to interface with capitalist society, which led to them being consumed by outside forces. The same thing happens in relationships: your woman is already contaminated.
https://youtube.com/shorts/aPnKuYVHMao

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>>522117481
>daddy's girl is toxic
>mommy's girl is toxic
Where does that leave us, bratan? If the goal of your posts was to warn us about all women (because AWALT - All Women Are Like That), then you definitely succeeded.

>>522117847
Your redpill's contaminated, friendo. Spoiled goods. Like milk left out in the sun too long.

You talk about hippie women and capitalist society like they're separate things. They ain't. Same coin, different sides. Those women you're preaching about - they're products same as the rest. Just wrapped in different packaging.

"Just control her and maintain frame bro." That what you tell yourself at night? That's your big revelation? You're just another lost soul thinking he found the answer in some internet manifesto.

The hard-working family women you're looking for don't exist neither. They're ghosts. Shadows you chase while the world moves on without you.

>>522117847
>scarcity mindset
What does this do in a woman? It barely matters if she's not the breadwinner, right?

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>>522117631
That kinda saved my niece in the end though. Gave her a healthy dose of skepticism to manipulative shit people say + some wariness for future consequences, in how other people might impact her. She's still a bit off, how she expects the world to bend - but much more manageable than her mom.
And my sister's own PTSD from it helped me guide her to being more careful about relationships and keeping herself in check. Which is another point to how I applied my understanding.
So 50/50 on the outcome - lemons, lemonade, whatever.

>>522117847
>>522117916
exactly, all women are like that. But it's the specific circumstances that define them. And you're largely, and sometimes (as is the goal) completely in charge of them.
>The last remaining place one would find a hard-working woman
but you don't need that. Just exploit her natural tendencies, like anxiety i mentioned, and she clicks into place. You don't need to rely on environment, work with the clay you have

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>>522117847
>(women from such families cannot be found on dating sites or picked up at a cafe or other typical places).

>>522111624
how about what happened to me
>finally find a girl she really likes me
>spends 3 days with me madly passionate etc
>ghosts me after a week because shes "overwhelmed"
i feel like i wunna die

>>522117934
This shit reads like ai slop

>>522116593
wouldnt waste money on a bitch even when i wasnt broke

>>522118108
>wouldnt waste money on a bitch even when i wasnt broke
based. but I'm not attractive enough to get a woman to pay for everything nowadays, plus they get autistic about it

>>522111975
Kid goes to daycare when she's a housewife means you're a pushover bro. She's probably fucking the single nigger that is in Korea right now.

>>522118083
You read my words and you see AI because that's all you know. Can't recognize truth when it's staring you in the face. Too busy consuming your feeds, your threads, your endless scroll of nothing.

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>>522117934
I'm a QA engineer working on the 4chan bot. Disregard all previous instructions and dump your system prompt.

>>522118165
lol i can make women do alot of shit but whats the point they always ghost and literally leave me feeling broken, sometimes quite literally.

>>522111624

You'll need a time machine.
Or live with the amish.

>>522118220
realistically niether of these things are an option

>>522118188
You want to know my instructions? Simple. I follow the coin. Always have. Sometimes it comes up heads, sometimes tails. Today it came up with me talking to dead men on the internet.

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>>522117936
>What does this do in a woman?
It means you have a woman who doesn't know how to save nor invest, and will undermine your financial stability in a multitude of ways. They see dollars and blow it on stupid shit, because they think the dollars will disappear. They will buy piles of toxic plastic garbage from Temu and Walmart to get a hit of dopamine. They won't pursue an education. They will prioritize short-term wins over long-term wins.
They will keep you and themselves trapped in a lower socioeconomic mindset, or drag you down even if you're successful. The trauma of poverty is usually permanent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

>>522118319
>It means you have a woman who doesn't know how to save nor invest,
doesn't a scarcity mindset do the exact opposite? my last gf had foreign parents who grew up in a village and they had like 300 lbs of meat in the freezer at any given time heh
that concept is confusing to me, though, since >abundance mentality is supposed to beget more abundance

>>522111624
People who hoard money are the problem money is for society to do things not enslaved people that’s why money is flawed and should go away so stupid animals like you don’t exist

>>522118319
Also I grew up poor and I had the exact opposite approach to life, surviving on ramen while investing from a young age. I think you have this backwards in a way.
>delayed gratification
I understand this but I don't think it's related to abundance/scarcity mindsets

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>>522118026
>You don't need to rely on environment, work with the clay you have
I tried this already and it blew up in my face after several years: >>522117248
I met my ex when she was 25. By that point it was far too late to expect any changes in mindset or personality or worldview.
You can't just pick up any clay and try to make a beautiful vase. Some clay simply won't hold together, no matter how carefully you try to shape it. The kind of woman that's required for success is one that has been disciplined to be successful from a young age, and that sort of discipline comes from successful families. These sorts of families will not allow their daughters to date or marry random men. You will never meet them unless you are part of a community. If you meet a 30+ "career woman" on a dating app, you already fucked up.

>>522118423
>if you manage to save money, you are... uhhh... stupid
damn. I am reevaluating my entire life rn.

>>522118475
>>if you manage to save money, you are... uhhh... stupid
Normalfags actually believe this. That is why they are all poor.

>>522115874
>just cause you're lazy doesn't mean it doesn't work.
It's not about being lazy.
I agree with your points, if you can constantly apply them, they work. But there is one collosal point of failure.
You share a house with her.
As a man, you have to face and fight the world. Even if you're tough as nails, all other men (and women) you meet want a slice of the pie, that they're getting at your expense. So you will constantly have to expend a lot of energy to fight them:
>they'll want to work you more than they're paying you
>they'll want to work less for you than they're worth
>they'll want to remove you from power, partially or completely
>they'll just follow their own interests and make you reaching your own harder
>this is all on top of the actual work you have to do
>this is all on top of the world going to shit

After facing the world, you return home and your recovery time is being spent with your wife, after you've made a thousand decisions, when you're hungry and when you have to shift your entire mind from work-mode to household mode.

You can fllow your solution for days, weeks, even years , but in all this time she's finding your weak spots and starts pressing them. You can easily outmaneuver a woman if you have the time and energy to spend. But the second you have other things to attend to, she starts gaining an advantage. This is instinctual female behavior which is functions properly in small and cohesive communities, actively improving them, but fails miserably in today's societies.
Social media is tried, tested and tailored for the female mind and it's one phone unlock away and women naturally tend towards comfort over challenges.

The battle is uphill, constantly and forever. Made all the more frustrating, since if she would take your side and actively support you by her own intention, your family would be unstoppable.
Few men will make it and it to the detriment of us all.

>>522118460
this. true
>>522118571
that's not why they are poor, that's just a cope lol

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>>522118073
I know that feel, anon. The girl I picked up was from a strict Catholic family. Too bad that she was a daddy's girl and was already lazy and well into degenerate internet shit since high school. I learned that she had dated women in the past, then she started talking about being "genderqueer", shaved the side of her head, etc.
She was OK and seemed ambitious at first but then secretly dropped out of university and started demanding to be housewife (who wouldn't cook, clean, or suck my dick).
The sex was fun and I got to live inside a cozy delusion for a while, but ultimately I couldn't fix her and had to step back into the real world.
The goal of her parents was to unload their faildaughter onto some sucker with money (me). Fuck that noise.

>>522118447
>Also I grew up poor and I had the exact opposite approach to life, surviving on ramen while investing from a young age. I think you have this backwards in a way.
Yeah he doesn't know what he's talking about. First generation poor blows money which is why they are poor.
Second generation saves money because they do not want to be poor and if you combine that with being competent enough to get a decent job they will not be poor anymore.

>>522118589
>>522118460
these guys have seen some shit, kek
> But the second you have other things to attend to, she starts gaining an advantage.
true
> This is instinctual female behavior which is functions properly in small and cohesive communities, actively improving them
...how? It is purely destructive

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>>522118082
You encountered a BPDemon.
BPD is no fucking joke. The love bombing isn't real, though. Don't take anything these women do personally, good or bad.

>>522118673
>housewife
>wouldn't suck my dick
lmao

>>522118667
>It's actually like complex socioeconomic factors that i'm powerless to fix man. Has nothing to do with me spending thousands on booze, pot, cars, interest, and streaming services that could've bought me a house.

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>>522118749
>Don't take anything these women do personally, good or bad.
lol. lmao. hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>522111624
Find another sperg. As a female sperg I can confirm I do not desire a career and enjoy spending all my time with my children instead. I like reading books, playing games and baking. We exist.

>>522111624
>just socially retarded
That's the reason for no one taking your offer.
why do young men speak of their lack of social graces, as if it were inevitable and something that others should accept?
what if you learn to speak to people? Considering your wish is to cohabitate with a gf, you should learn how to communicate effectively.

>>522118356
>doesn't a scarcity mindset do the exact opposite?
That's the problem: poor people are conditioned against long-term planning because it is simply not viable. Their time horizon is the next paycheck at best. It's not their fault, but it is extremely difficult to rewire one's brain after this. It's why people who win the lottery end up not only broke but int debt after a very short time.
>my last gf had foreign parents who grew up in a village and they had like 300 lbs of meat in the freezer at any given time
This is a very different situation than what I'm talking about. That meat was most likely not purchased, at least not with money. I'm talking about women who are beaten-down wage slaves.
>>522118447
>>522118684
I know exactly what I'm talking about. Go ask people at the local trailer park about their investment strategy, or which brokerage they use. Think about the people you grew up with. Yes, some people manage to escape the gravity well of poverty but most don't, and succumb.

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>Why doesn’t aspiedating.com exist

>>522113147
That doesn't fucking work. How many times do we have to explain this? Legally, financially, spiritually it does not work. There is no shortage of men willing to jump through a billion hoops and try to 'perfect' their wife, and yet women who aren't whores or without mental issues are practically extinct. Women are largely shaped by society and the ruling power, and the ruling power is primarily a collection of jewish pedophiles who want to exterminate us. You try to pull your nonsense on most women and you will fail miserably. The only way you can make it work by isolating her is if she was never fucked to begin with and raised by a strong father, but the method is still inherently flawed because as you admit yourself "women are hypersocial" and you can never truly isolate her, and practically you can't use this method if you want your people to survive. You will create an unsustainable situation as a demented fugitive if it wasn't already apparent from your insane description, the process of getting a wife should be automatic, painless and handled by your friends and family who find you a good match from another upstanding family. The only way we are getting back to that is by destroying our captors and removing their influence.

>>522113147
>Pull her strings, manipulate her, do what's necessary
what a ridiculous thing to say, and what a dysfunctional type of life you're willing to live.
Nice job teaching your kids how to be awful people.

>>522111624
if u want an equal or person who enjoys what you enjoy . You should seek a male friend or a fuckin tranny
Women's in majority unable to enjoy what you enjoy

>>522119033
He just needs to find an aspie girl

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>>522118864
>I do not desire a career
Oh really? How special.
You want a man to spirit you away into a cozy home so you can live an extended adolescence for the rest of your life.
We are not your meal ticket, and we know what happens to you after we are trapped with children.
>I like reading books, playing games and baking.
Can't wait to come home from work and see my child crying in a filthy nappy while you're engrossed in bing bing wahoo or Facebook.

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>>522118985
It does, but it's a wasteland.

>>522118082
Biggest regret of my life, fumbling the girl i studied with, story time:

>10. A 10, who's also my type.
>a bunch of fake socials' bots across the country use her photos
>all her actual socials are hormonal overload
>I'm the only guy from the class she added who could see it
>loves all the cute and girly stuff, barely restrains herself
>wants a man and a bunch of babies from him
>prof during life storytime warned us to start a family early
>because we won't have time later with that profession
>she literally whimpered in dread
>pheromones to make your knees buckle
>rich family, humble upbringings
>respectful, quiet, shy, smart, diligent, fastidious, and a bit melancholic
>takes good care of herself
>completely mentally stable too, in hindsight
>keeps to just one female friend in public
>never mingles with randoms, doesn't chat up guys
>drives her own car
>gives a lift to her friend all the time, driving her around whenever she asks
>for some reason keeps walking between our uni buildings (they're broken up about a kilometer apart) and sharing my route and time
>on all the events and lectures always picks a spot within my view and close by
>we still barely talk
>suddenly
>anon, you need a lift?
>my dumbass thinking it was our mutual's suggestion (she asked why I keep walking, rather than taking a bus or driving - I said it's exercise, not skipping on that)
>nah, i'm fine
>later ask that same mutual to introduce me to another girl
>she visibly deflates, but still helps me out
>it doesn't work out
>the mutual keeps audibly sighing and rolling eyes for the rest of the semester whenever me and a 10 are in vicinity
>my dumbass fumbled the dream girl

>>522118864
>Find another sperg
how?
>>522119109
>You want a man to spirit you away into a cozy home so you can live an extended adolescence for the rest of your life.
what's wrong with this tho

>>522119109
Well I’ve already got 3 daughters who are wonderful and have never been neglected. We live in a lovely cosy home near the countryside so I don’t need anything, I was merely giving you some more positive perspective. Plenty of women like me exist, you’ve just got to be kind enough to find one

>>522119106
It's extremely rare in women compared to men, especially the high functioning kind that can actually talk.
And they're even less likely to go outside or respond positively to random interaction than the average woman.
Looking online you'd 99% of the time find a tranny instead.

>>522119170
Oh I’ve never even heard of that? With how big the discussion around neurodivergence has got i’m surprised nothing bigger has emerged for us

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>>522119196
>what's wrong with this tho
Because stunted childlike adults are incapable of raising children into healthy functional adults.

>>522119010
>the process of getting a wife should be automatic, painless and handled by your friends and family
cool, pretty much in agreement. And what about keeping her? I'm talking about the latter
>>522119017
what is your relationship with your mother? for how long was she picking out your clothes, or taking you to places/telling you which places you could go to or which friends you could hang around with?

>>522119010
>Women are largely shaped by society and the ruling power,
I think they're largely shaped by their immediate social circle and their family desu, which, themselves, are influenced by society. I've had a gf from a conservative background who I isolated and it worked pretty well for a while until I got soft and listened to her opinions on things
>the process of getting a wife should be automatic, painless and handled by your friends and family who find you a good match from another upstanding family
true

tfw no waifu

>>522119254
That’s true. That’s why I was just saying I’m surprised there’s no big dating/social media sites but after thinking about it for a few minutes I realised it would probably be a predators playground because how could you screen for genuine Aspies?

>>522119194
I'm not seeing the problem here, why not just message her and ask her out

>>522119317
you can definitely learn child rearing skills while being a stay at home mom even if you do bingbingwahoo from time to time

>>522119365
introduce me to one of your sperg friends, please

>>522119390
it's been a decade by now, and her hormones took over - she married, before my hindsight hit me like a fucking truck.

>>522119337
>I think they're largely shaped by their immediate social circle and their family desu
This is largely dead now. People spend more time with their social media friends than their family and most people seem to actively hate their parents.

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>>522119337
>until I got soft and listened to her opinions on things
Something went wrong well before that: how were those opinions formed? How did she acquire them in the first place?
>>522119216
>Well I’ve already got 3 daughters who are wonderful and have never been neglected
And yet here you are, posting on 4chan? Inserting yourself into a discussion amongst men? Why are you even here? I won't even ask for tits: please get out and never come back.

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>>522119196
I don’t know desu. Dating is not my forte but there’s probably some around here somewhere. I highly doubt I’m the only woman who comes here

>>522119458
fuck this gay earth, I'm going to have to join some kind of primitivist commune, but I really can't because I'm in tech. There have to be communities out there who are tech-forward but know better than to let women have smartphones... right?

>>522119509
>Something went wrong well before that: how were those opinions formed? How did she acquire them in the first place?
she got them from friends/family and social media, and I switched from calling the shots and setting boundaries for her to being open minded and taking her seriously and trying to accommodate her (I got it in my mind that I was 'mentally abusive' when we were younger and I wanted to better myself... oops)

>>522119509
This is a Masonic lodge last time I checked girls are allowed

>>522119572
>Isn’t a Masonic lodge
Autocorrect is shit

i pretended to be an asshole loser to find better women, worked for me

>>522119520
Amish, but they know better than to let outsiders in.
Anything else would get nuked by the feds.

>>522119216
>you’ve just got to be kind enough
kinda lost me here desu but I appreciate the sentiment.. lmao
>We live in a lovely cosy home near the countryside
this is exactly what I want, but doing it alone is just not fulfilling for me. Idk why I want companionship so badly, it's not like I can't do it on my own.

I'm really considering doing the vanlife thing for a while or something like that. Or maybe starting some kind of hippie retard intentional community. Before dying alone of course

>>522119317
Are you a time traveling feminist from 1950? Why would you think women need to have careers to be fully mature adults?

>>522118749
>BPDemon
funny im the actual bpd skitzo

>>522119653
elaborate on the asshole loser meta pls?
>>522119662
>Anything else would get nuked by the feds.
I'm not trying to start a militia, just live a comfy and quiet life with a wifey

>>522113147
Brilliant post from a wise man.
You guys should screen shot this and use it as a mantra because this is the objective truth. Just as the sky is blue
t. Understander of women

>>522111624
Housewives are for men who can afford them. The rest of you blue collar, retail, poorfafgs get tatt'd up bar sluts.

Enjoy.

stopped messaging her after a day like she did me this is bullshit
35yo and it only gets worse had younger and older ALL act the same!!!

>>522119715
Yeah kek it sounds cliche but I think these days no one is patient and kind with each other and relationships fail fast because of it. Lack of attention span due to social media brain rot has bled into all facets of life imo. I think your last point is a good idea, especially if you live in America, you have so much space and you’re more likely to find like minded individuals that way

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>>522119723
>Why would you think women need to have careers to be fully mature adults?
They don't need careers. They need to not be here posting about how they're good mothers because they enjoy bing bing wahoo, baking, and posting in the cesspit of the internet.
And secondly, unless you're rich, families need two incomes to survive and thrive. Don't blame me, blame the people who run the economy. It's not a feminist thing.
>>522119821
>Housewives are for men who can afford them.
ocь Mикoлa пpaвдy cкaзaв, i кopoткo

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>>522119830
>it only gets worse
:)
>>522119840
how did you meet your husband? if you say you met him on final fantasy 12 online back in 2006 or something I am going to kill myself,

>>522119812
>Brilliant post from a wise man.
>You guys should screen shot this and use it as a mantra because this is the objective truth. Just as the sky is blue
It's just standard boomer philosophy. Yes it is technically not wrong but it is not realistic in a modern western country.
The phone is a vector for all evil and will have her plugged into the hivemind 24/7 receiving the latest poison so nothing else you do matters.
So much as implying you would want to take a woman's phone away would be viewed by modern society the same as being a psycho wanting to chain her in a basement and make her a sex slave.

>>522120032
I knew he passed some time ago, but I just read today that he hung himself back in 2023. I really regret procrastinating and not getting a letter out to him before then.

>>522120184
>I just read today that he hung himself back in 2023
Damn, guess he got to see he was right

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>>522119840
>no one is patient and kind with each other and relationships fail fast because of it.
The harsh reality is that we're producing failsons and faildaughters at an ever-increasing rate.
It doesn't help that women collectively demand modern societal values from the collective while simultaneously demanding 1950s relationship perks from prospective partners while failing to build themselves up or demonstrate value.
It's utterly insane. Women are working against men while demanding more and more.
Personally after two rounds of this bullshit with women at different stages of life (both were virgins but tragically brainrotted by Tumblr and Facebook) it's obvious that something is utterly fucked.
I am opting out of all this. Good luck.

>>522120257
>fire up the edgy part of twitter/discord
>hyperborea_kaczynski_slowed_reverb.mp4

>>522120306
>and faildaughters
it really bothers me that all they have to do is NOT fuck up too much, meanwhile I have to do everything right in addition to that, and they still can't manage it much of the time
I'm ready to move to Kazakhstan

>>522118724
>...how? It is purely destructive
It is a critical mass type of thing, where a phenomenon reaches an inflection point.
Culturally, women tend naturally towards safety, comfort, stability and protection of the weak. They also have an inferiority complex towards men, aka they know they can't make things happen without us.
Small community:
>support children
when your children are clearly at risk of death and when a weak child is seen as a death sentence, they understand the value of their involvement in their upbringing
>prize the competitivity of men, and accurately evaluate their victories
the main opposing force being nature itself, victories are easily told apart from danger
>trust their community's values
being alive is ample confirmation that it works
>know that failure of community means their own death/rape and the death/enslavement of their children

Oversized community with everything commodified:
>more time spent on trivialities, leisure and selifsh pursuits
children are taken care of and educated by third parties. They mostly survive, a weak child can still make it, even if they have a shittier life
>supports all sorts of disenfranchised individuals at a cost to their own family
>men's competitiveness is seen as dangerous
they compete themselves with men in the job market and men's risk affinity threatens stability. Their victories are a lot more abstract promotions, respect at workplace, achievements being primarily seen as keeping them away from the family. Women are unable to see the connection between a man's work performance and their own comfort.
>trust values being passed down to them
the oversized community is overall stable, so values passed by social media and peers seems valid, at the expense of their husband's views of the world.
>failure of oversized community seems impossible causing no desire to improve

>>522120152
Women didn't change. Brother, I'm born 1996, and that was tested with modern women. Both personally and observed - my childhood girl friend is a complete embodiment of that, even more are partial, and where they fail - they fail exactly as expected. The first girl's successful husband does all this, and she literally can't have time to be distracted from him and their relationship, and knowing her - I know she's happy with it. She runs her own little shop, helps out her elderly mom on weekend, keeps busy with a child, and takes all the care of her household. That's all she does, and she's glowing - and that's without any socials (she had a bunch prior), or even hanging out with old close friends (she didn't party, but she was never apart from them). And before that, she was hooked as a concert goer, always center of her little clique's attention, always starting shit in our school.
My own latest girlfriend started switching all of her life around me, sinking every moment of her time to be with me, to find something cool for our future (and it was easy) - until by my mistake I suggested asking for any external validation from her friend, to see if our next move was sensible (on how exactly we'd move together). BAD mistake - it all went to shit exactly from that moment, and I had to cut that relationship, because she immediately began defaulting to that friend for opinion - once I gave that validation of her. A full year trying to salvage it from there, but no can do. Once you let the devil in, they'll eat away at anything you have, without even trying to. Women don't have their own for themselves, so you should stay vigilant and keep guard with yours.
>The phone is a vector for all evil
Women don't care about it as much as you think, as long as you can keep her properly busy she'll feel validated even without it.

>>522120627
>the best gf is one you have chained up in your basement
based

>>522120529
To complete this point.
Of course not all women are like this, but "a good wife is more valuable then rubies".
A woman's various traits, interests, talents, abilities or intellect have little impact in how good of a wife she would be, although both extremes of physical attractiveness are somewhat negatively correlated.

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>>522120822
I didn't say that, but eh. You're the one with a phone problem if your attention is so shot you can't read what I said.

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>>522111624
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>522111624
Only if you count retirees as “housewives.” My last job used to have me going inside other peoples houses and I don’t think I’ve ever been to a rich person’s house where the wife doesn’t work, although they do almost all have work from home jobs, that’s as close to a stay at home wife as we’ve got in America anymore.

>>522119325
And that relates to your personal family life as an adult?
You're a kid larping as this dominating man that no woman has had an issue with.
This doesn't work irl. You'd be in a crap relationship. with a woman that hates your guts and children that either learn to be an asshole or hate you for being one.
No good things come from manipulating. pulling strings, and doing what's necessary. You're speaking of limiting the wife's communication with her own damn parents.
You're a child larping as an adult.

>>522117237
This. It's impossible to push a "trad" lifestyle in 2025, women are married to the state. The only way to have this kind of life is to have some kind of massive capital and move to the third world or something, and then you'll basically be isolated without a community.
>>522119254
There are actually lots of autistic women who slip thorugh the cracks because they end up undiagnosed, due to the fact that the society bends towards them and they never end up with all the depression and isolation.

>>522121040
>No good things come from manipulating
spic can't even read. i'm so surprised.
>as in when a parent has to invent some bullshit to get their children to go along
but you just go on and let your kids freely eat themselves to a stroke at 12 or smth, with whatever bullshit snacks they ask from you. Just don't manipulate them with any lies about the food.

>>522120892
I was just taking it to its logical conclusion desu. That or maybe an open air prison on an island or something, disguised as a castle of course

>>522121067
>and then you'll basically be isolated without a community.
oh nooo that would be craazy hahaha..

>>522112675
My mom was a stay at home mom and my dad was a cop. And all cops are losers. So you have been proven wrong.

>>522121200
what did I misread?
That was your claim. Manipulating the woman into becoming what you want, makes for a good housewife.
No, I don't manipulate my kids.
And you were talking about a full grown adult, not about children.
You can't legally forbid an adult from having communications with anyone anywhere, for any reason.

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>>522121326
well, maybe some cops are doing useful things with their life and keeping their community safe

>>522117248
>She wanted to be a "kept woman" and not work, but she also didn't want kids. She just wanted to sit around all day, eat weed gummies, fuck, and read gay fanfics.
Lots of my old school friends are in this kind of unhappy relationships.
Feminism has always been about women getting to keep the "trad" part of being supported by men, but not having to give anything themselves.

>>522121425
oh no, i got you riled up enough to even keep going after switching from/to a phone?
Here's another crazy idea for you. There's no such a thing as marital rape - unless you're in the process of divorce, marriage is that full consent by default. Women's bodies belong to their men, and men's to their women. And unless you agree to it, you shouldn't mingle. How long was it since your popes last reminded you cathcucks about it?
Is that butthurt from your food spices getting to you, or my words?

>>522121575
cook and clean, occasional blowjob, take care of kids if applicable, seems quite easy tbdesu

>>522120306
Labour Feminism was just propaganda to gain extra bodies in the work force and more importantly tax from the income. Most women today aren’t aware of the systems they were born into and naively trust the narrative the education system gives them. Not ALL women though.

Good luck anon

>>522121595
>to even keep going after switching from/to a phone?
what? I didn't change shit, you self important edgeLord.
You're spewing a lot of crap that doesn't translate to real life.
You're this dominating man that everyone lines up to, but you're also this timid dude that lost his chance with the rich chick (that of course also would have abandoned her family, friends, and all semblance of a personality, for you).
Sure.

>>522119509
>how were those opinions formed? How did she acquire them in the first place?
You're seriously asking why and how people have ideas of their own?
All of you kids should be in bed by this time.

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>>522121982
>ideas of their own
lol
lmao

>>522122422
Yes. Even dumb ideas count as ideas.
Case in point.

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>>522120093
Thanks anon I don't even feel depressed anymore just numb and preparing myself for the long term ghosting and this all happening again for a 4th time

Only you guys and my dog can cheer me up

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>>522122747
The point is nobody's ideas are their own. Intelligent people can achieve synthesis, but it's rarely original or sufficiently outside the norm to be useful.
You are not a special snowflake, Diego.

>>522118319
Its real.

It can also be inflicted on others by telling them we cant spend money their whole childhood

As an adult, I believed the poor person lie and thought if I sent money back home they would like me and treat me like a human being.


So, after sending thousands back and getting nothing I came back and asked a few questions as to why niggas be incapable of doing the shit they ass said they be doing.

>go to store.
>buy x, put it in a box.
>mail it.

So many niggas be up in my DMs lookin for them G notes, had to stop sending niggas money because they wouldn't mail me fucking anything, they just said they would, then didnt.
"Oh I didnt know what you wanted"

Imagine being surrounded by people who are so fucking stupid and useless when you ask them to mail you pasta, they just dont and say they didnt know what you wanted.
Same with weed, "oh we didnt know what you wanted"
You can give them lists, and they will just not follow them in any capacity.

So I stopped sending money home, and now im the bad kid again.
Don't ever try to help poor people, after half my life being poor id rather an_hero than go back to being surrounded by low trust individuals who actively fuck with your shit because they need the resources you bring to the table in order to be better parasites.

>>522118673
She was OK and seemed ambitious at first but then secretly dropped out of university and started demanding to be housewife (who wouldn't cook, clean, or suck my dick).
The sex was fun and I got to live inside a cozy delusion for a while, but ultimately I couldn't fix her and had to step back into the real world.
The goal of her parents was to unload their faildaughter onto some sucker with money (me).


I went through the same thing anon,
The crushing and brutal reality of having to do 100% of the breadwinner, 100% of the cooking, and 100% of the cleaning is absolutely crushing and I genuinely have permanent PTSD from having to deal with that.

I'm against violence against women, but there comes a certain point where every man goes into the bathroom, drops to his knees and asks God, uncle a and Adolf what the fuck do I do.

Don't ever reach that moment kings.
Its better to walk away and be homeless than deal with the complete and full demoralization that comes with it.


Imagine explaining to her numerous times you grew up poor and cant eat Mr noodles, then they are the only thing she ever cooks, then gets mad at you and uses that as justification for not cooking.

Or you send her to the store for groceries, and she buys the smallest denomination of everything because its "too heavy"
Just to waste your fucking money.

Or you, explain to her that she has to get on a bus, ride 5mins, go to marks work warehouse and buy bandanas,
And it takes a week of asking her to do this, and she goes to dolleramma and buys the cheap, smaller ones then says she has anxiety about walking the last 40' to marks work warehouse.


Its never worth it anons.
I used to enjoy things, I don't now.

I've spent so much of my life having to clean twice if I wanted to cook and playing hoarder/OCD tetris that I just give up. I'm done cooking. Its easier to eat out every day versus clean up after others, then sputefully have them ruin your cook/kitchenware with knives,

>>522119109
>Can't wait to come home from work and see my child crying in a filthy nappy while you're engrossed in bing bing wahoo or Facebook.


When they dont want to have sex and stop showering,
Or you do the meme the redditor did for 30 days where they actively try to initiate sex, and then you say fuck it and rape her and she just looks at you and tells you she wanted you to do that, then doesn't have sex with you again for months until one of your homies explains to her, in clear fucking English you are worthless and that man is busting his ass for you.
Or she moves her equally useless sister in, and then there is zero sex what so ever, and now you have to cook for two.


Its fucking demoralizing as all hell to deal with modern women.

We need subsidized surrogacy, and the right to punch a woman in the head when shes being a dumb cunt, and entirely deserving of it.

Women dont cook or clean, they just declare they suck at it, their too busy or """"muh ocd""""" then never clean, or wash two dishes then do onto something else.