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Makes sense to me.
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>>522117439
Saved? There is no saving a country once the jewish vultures start circling.
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>>522117439
Annexation? Fuck no, I aint letting those pigs in our country.
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>>522117439
They are ethnically identical to Russians. They should be politically united.
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>>522117578
That's ok, you will pay reparations to Ukraine and give back Crimea LOL
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>>522117439
They are fucked either way. They should return northern Bukovina to us for housing their fucking cowards and whores.
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>>522117439
it's fucked either way.
and the west is also fucked. none of those loans are ever going to be repaid. neither by a victorious ukraine, nor by a conquered one.
and instead of cutting our losses, we keep pumping even more billions (we don't even have) into it to delay the acknowledgment that we fucked up.
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>>522119114
its being paid back through subjugation
the eu is fighting its first war for its right to exist, and a ukrainian vassal will forever be a thorn in the side of russian neo-imperialism
eu victory would collapse tsar putins believability
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>>522119114
Yeah this is one of these things. Ukrainians can go bankrupt but have nothing to sell so the vultures will be hungry. What are they going to do, start lobbying Europe to buy Russian gas again so they can appease the banks by letting them take all the transit money?
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>>522119498
>the eu is fighting its first war for its right to exist
It will exist regardless of what happens in the Ukraine.
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>>522119562
even with the ukraine war, eu federalism is dead
without military and geopolitical triumph its institutions are diminished to what they are in practice, an overly bureaucratic inefficient trade union
its status quo is fundamentally unsustainable, the eu will either collapse and be replaced, or move further towards further federalisation into becoming the united states of europe
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Balkanization is the only way to save russia.
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>>522119908
And why do you want united states of Europe? Muttostan and Mutt Federation aren't proof enough that a trade union x military alliance is more preferable?
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>>522120461
nobody asked me for my opinion, im simply offering an analysis

tl;dr:
>the eu combines extensive regulatory, monetary, and international influence with incomplete political, fiscal, and defence integration, creating structural and legitimacy tensions
>the ukraine war acts as an external stressor, requiring coordinated defence, sanctions, and foreign policy action, which exposes gaps between institutional capacity and collective expectations and prompts debate over the union’s purpose, role, and means of agency
>limited public support for deeper federalisation constrains immediate reform, leaving the eu’s trajectory contingent on whether it retrenches into a simpler trade focused union or gradually expands political, fiscal, and defence capacities to reconcile these pressures
>the conflict accelerates this process by forcing a clarification of stakes and narrowing viable institutional pathways



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