>Women obtaining more financial autonomy isn’t the primary reason there are fewer babies, Goldin argues. The real problem, she found, is the kind of support - or lack of support - women are receiving from men.https://www.salon.com/2025/09/01/to-raise-fertility-rates-its-not-women-who-need-to-step-up-its-men_partner/Stop hiding behind your computer screens, cowards. This is on you.
>>522131446Naw im rooting for the death of the west and israel at this point
>>522131589>>522131446STOP WITH HOBBIESGET JOBS
MENWE NEED YOU TO MAN UP
>Claudia Goldin
>>522131651I support war and the strong independent women who will fight in them, slava ukraini!
>>522131446OH OK! IM FINE WITH THAT!That bitch can get out there and work herself to death and ill stay home all day and cook and clean.In fact I did this once while I was laid up with a broke hand, I had all the household chores done for the week at noon in one day and watched tv the rest of the time with my newborn.She was so fucking pissed off that she told me she would divorce me if I didnt go back to work.So I divorced her instead since she was the main bread winner, and now she gets to pay me for 18 years and alimony because I proved her to be a unfit care giver.
Women have to accept the help, though. And because that comes with both expectations and submission, they refuse to. They want all the bonuses, with none of the reciprocal obligations. If a man refuses to be exploited, the female mind twists this into him expecting a "transactional" relationship. A "non-transactional" relationship is one where she expects and receives, and he expects nothing, and is overjoyed to take whatever he can get. As usual, the problem is women.
>>522131446I'm literally not going to do anything or lift even a finger. What now? kek. suck my balls.
>>522131805If you bothered to read the article you'd know it's actually saying men need to do more domestic labor in the household and not just expect women to be their eternal housekeepers. Once again, men are too myopic to grasp the point.
>>522131776Based
Or perhaps in countries with higher fertility rates, men are simply required to do more household work to keep up with having more children. Cart before horse.
>>522131900men have been doing more housecare than women at any point in united states historyso why have birthrates gone downif you dont respond, you lost the argument
>>522131900No, I understood the point. It's just wrong. The issue isn't male performance, it's female expectations.
>>522131446>Women obtaining more financial autonomy isn’t the primary reason there are fewer babies, Goldin argues. The real problem, she found, is the kind of support - or lack of support - women are receiving from men.>Claudia Goldin was born in the Bronx, New York City on May 14, 1946. Her family is Jewish.
I do EVERYTHING in my home because if I didn’t, there’d be no food in the fridge, no meals on the table and the house would be a fucking pigsty. All of this and the cunty girlboss I’m stuck with doesn’t have sex with me, or god forbid give blowjobs. Marriage is a trap in America, I advise anyone to never do it ever.
>>522132048just leave bro, wtf are you doing
>>522131624>>522131651It seems the women have already "manned up" IYKYK
>>522132048just so you know, all that money you spent on your foid pet, couldve gone to plastic surgery to avoid all of this
>>522131446I'm pretty sure us nördics are the most equal when it comes to parents doing chores and stuff, and our birth rates are in the dumpster as well.Women really do hate responsibility.
>>522132048hide your assets, then dump her
>>522131446I won’t step up for a western whore woman. Useless pieces of shit. And how am I suppose to raise fertility rates when women either kill their babies or wait to have children into their 30s? Keep freezing those eggs you pathetic old hags
>>522131446Kekking>Women are the only ones who can have babies>Women choose to stop having babies>"Wtf? How could men do this? It's their fault becauseeee.... Chores or something!"Kek have you ever considered that men aren't around to do housework for feminist harpies who give them no children?Are they even serious with this shit anymore?
also, there was zero actual scientific research done for this joke of an article and it's so called "paper"
>>522131624ew
>>522131900I already do 100% of the domestic work, plus manage my career so I can pay for this house that I own. What is the point in letting her move in with me and she doesn't help with anything at all? It's just more work around the house for me to clean up after her.
>>522131991You're starting off with a false premise so there's no point replying to you
>>522131900I'm just done with feminists and tradcons wagging their fingers at me. It's clear both these factions see men as disposable tools.
>>522131446Not my problem goldenstein
>>522131776You got Revolution digits for this revolutionary post. Great work anon
>>522132402If everyone thought the same way you did humanity would go extinct. Do men really not feel any kind of duty towards women anymore at all? How pathetic...
>>522132190Lots of dudes should be hiding their assets, and not everyone has a good mother/family they can trust. I don't anticipate being in a position where a foid can marriage-rape me. What are the logistics of setting myself up as an asset shelter for bros with shitty wives so that they can extricate themselves without getting robbed on the way out?
>>522131624But women are not having children even with chads. Particularly zoomer girls are not breeding with anyone at all. Almost nobody gets to pass any genes on anymore.
>>522131900Men are now doing a majority of domestic work already.The point is a lie.
>>522132495The problem is that women don't feel duty towards men, and the law sides with women. As usual, the problem is women.
>>522131446Gotta blame men for everything. Typical feminist propaganda.Capitalism run amok!https://dl.depot.4d2.org/EF6Kxmfq6549.mp4
>>522131856make sure to buy shiny rocks so that they cannot.
>>522131900see>>522131776It's not labor it's literally because women suck ass at doing anything else. So stay home and shut the fuck up you little brat.
>>522132091Avoiding divorce rape >>522132176I’m conventionally attractive. I’m no Adonis, but I get female attention. Just unwilling to fuck a side chick and get completely cooked in divorce court.>>522132190I have no assets outside my income. I’d have to buy her out of the house if I wanted to keep it, and even then the state may just award it to her regardless. It’s a choice between misery or misery AND poverty AND becoming a rentoid.
>>522132502>What are the logistics of setting myself up as an asset shelter for bros with shitty wives so that they can extricate themselves without getting robbed on the way out?0 and I don't say that just to be a cunt. The legal system is set up the way it is to ENSURE those women get that money. If somebody could just set up a trust firm for men in the event of bad divorces, they'd already be around and have created billionaires kekYou have to do it with you mom or other nuclear family member specifically because they can legally pull as much weight as a spouse... Sometimes.
>>522132436Men do the actual housework. Decorating isn't work. And you cunts can't even cook macaroni and cheese anymore. Useless twat
>>522131900Women are not breeding in first world countries with highest domestic support and domestic subsidies either. Only reason why women in first world countries are not having children is because women do not want children. I do not see what could make them want children voluntarily.
>>522131624Retarded idiot complying with pol audio censorship because politically incorrect should.not be heard, by posting soundless video and thinking Inwill waste time pausing it every half second to be able.to read all that subtitles that last 400 milliseconds on the screen otherwise, when there is catbox.moe.Nigger!
>>522132502Buy gold and bury it
>>522132731>VoluntarilyThere's your problem. We NEED a birth draft for White women. They can serve their country now the way men have for generations.They'll get a nice letter from the president confirming that their family, friends, and country thank them.Conscientious objectors to natalism can just be sex workers.
>>522132731It’s ironic that women howled for greatly increased maternal leave, then tanked the birthrates further when they got it.
>>522132495>omg what do you mean i need to put my underwear in the hamper this is like auschwitz all over again i literally can't evenlmao I unironically paid for her medication a few days ago so she can function. You are mentally ill
>>522132731>I do not see what could make them want children voluntarily.Ever actually see a young mom with her kid? Usually it's a huge boon to their lives. They are being convinced these days to throw their whole lives away. Invest in cats I guess.
>>522131446>it is no longer enough that you are the breadwinner and slave away 9-10 hours each day>you must now also do all the chores and child raisingokay, but what does she do at that point?>nothingthen I don't need her
>>522132890But don't you feel DUTY anon? Think of the duty!
>>522132527this, the claims are retarded.even when women are getting fucked by guys way out of their league, the best they can ever hope for, they are still on the pill and probably also have him use condoms on top of that.
>>522131446according to Salon.com it's time for men to start beating the shit out of women until they stop being retards again.Based Salon.com
>>522131446Foids deserve nothing, especially babies
>>522131776fucking kekreminds me of most of my experiences with living with women though>"anon, I need you to do [thing]">do [thing] in 15 minutes or so>"what the fuck, anon, there is no way you did it correctly, it takes me at least 3 hours to do that!"well, maybe you should become a bit more efficient then. I'm not gonna waste 3 hours when I can also just be done in 15 minutes.by now I just don't do anything they ask me for anymore because it's not like it matters anyway. she didn't ask you because it had to be done, she just wanted to waste your time, that was the only purpose. and completing the task just means she'll immediately come up with the next one.
It’s financially more viable to pay a house keeper and sleep with hookers than date a women
>>522132495What even is a woman, chud? Anybody can be a woman
>>522131624>>522131651>>522131446Its interesting how womens opinion of being "a real man" aligns with being a beta good goy tax slave
the standards for PhD's has gone tremendously lownot only is there no scientific research for this "paper", but she seemingly cant seem to comprehend that "more equality" does not cause nor correlate to men miraculously doing lessshe also pathetically fails at trying to use math to prove her "thesis"it also ignores all biological and anthropological aspects that could go into this thesisIQ tests must be mandatory in academia
>>522131446That's mean I gotta rape bitches noooo.....
>>522132495Why does "muh duty" only go one way?
>>522131446If artificial wombs existed, the birth rate problem would cease to exist virtually overnight. The first company that opened a business creating vat-grown babies would be overwhelmed with orders. The problem is, and always has been, women not wanting to have children.
>>522131805Pretty much.Women will usually not simply ask for a favor, because that would mean they are indebted to you afterwards. Not fully transactional where you write down everything you did and expect something in exchange, but if she keeps asking for favors, she will have a harder time getting away with rejecting your requests later on.So instead, she will either voice it as an order, to make it sound like it's your natural duty and you are in remiss by not immediately doing it, rather than it being a request from her.Or she'll just act like a fucking cunt and "let you figure it out by yourself" so you do a bunch of shit she technically never asked for. All so she can claim that she never asked you so she technically doesn't owe you.The women who do this get very fucking aggressive when you tell them there's a small word they forgot, because they absolutely want to avoid asking for it directly. I am not sure if they are fully aware of it themselves.
>>522133551Who set that system up?
>>522132495>if you don't let me be a solipsistic parasite who treats you like a slave then humanity will diemaybe it deserves extinction then>Do men really not feel any kind of duty towards women anymore at all?no. it's a give and take. I feel obligated to do favors to those who have also granted me favors.I don't feel any obligation towards someone just because she has a hole between her legs. there are like 4.5bn of those on this planet, it's not exactly special.
>>522133660>won't answer the question (because he sees men as disposable, but won't say it to your face)
>>522132495Women never felt any duty towards men. Men are tools or objects to you,even the top 0.001% gigachads you pick up to be your lover. You don't love him. You use him. You fetishize him you like the emotions he provides you with,not the man. Women can't love.
>>522133660Men and women or better said the women and the men the said women chose to mate with. Everyone else is nonexistent at best,a tool and slave at worst
>>522131776Based beyond belief
>>522132436>its false because... It just is ok. KIts a self correcting problem, in time those women will die alone, and there will be no replacing them as the following generations will continue to shrink until the mind virus that promoted these things is left in the wake of a collapsed society. The women who will remain will be subordinate or perish.
>>522133551Telling a women that she doesnt deserve everything unconditionally is opressive and mysogynistic
>>522131624Does she not realize she's in that equation now too? She's subpar genetically because she refuses to breed. Nature will delete her out of existence like she never even happened.
>>522131446>dindu nuffintruly they are the the niggers of the world
>>522133604>so you do a bunch of shit she technically never asked for.Hate that shit so much it's unreal. I'm naturally the type to look for ways to help and provide for and please the woman I'm with, and until I dated enough to see how modern women work as a species, I always thought I was just having terrible luck, or not doing enough, or not doing it right. Then I realized "No, they're infected with a mind virus that has nothing to do with how well I'm doing as a mate." It was always my instinct to pay attention to a woman's needs and preferences, and purposely seek out ways to make her life better. It didn't occur to me for a long time that women, by conditioning or nature, don't have the same mindset towards men. Sad lesson.
>>522133660Humans.
WE WILL STEP UP IF THEY STEP DOWNrepeal their rights for they have disturbed the natural order
>>522132130ikr
>>522133996Yeah, most women are just mentally incompatible with men.In the past they never got to have a say so that issue was moot, but now where they get to make their own decisions, you have millennia of natural selection catching up with them all at once.Just a shame that it also fucks over the men of their generations since it's roughly 50:50
>>522131651Im tired of these ugly harpies telling me how I should live my life. fuck off!
>>522132495>humanity would go extinct(that's currently happening, mostly because women are retarded)
>>522131624I've lived long enough to see what came of the sons and daughters of the drug dealers and cavemen women chose to be the absent father of their children with before getting into LTRs with much more responsible men who they browbeat into getting vasectomies. the kids were all duds. the men who were refused reproductive opportunity were to the man more intelligent, responsible and artistically/musically talented. half the time they were taller and more handsome, too.
>>522133660jews, which are a very feminine, gynocentric culture
>>522132622>Avoiding divorce rapeat some point you have to ask yourself if the ongoing marriage rape is really any better than the potential divorce rape.if it's you initiating the divorce you can at least let some assets disappear rather than suddenly being surprised by it.
>>522131446Not worth it, not even close.
>>522131446nah im good, i could gave less of a fuck about interacting with women or being social> start a new temp xmas job> within 1st week the female staff are asking me to do secret santa and go to their xmas partyso fucking annoying, holy shit just let me do my job and go home and play vidya.
>>522134234between the marriage rape and divorce rape, maybe try some actual rape to see if that fixes the problem
>>522132495Why the fuck should men feel some sense of duty towards women who aren't their wives or relatives? I will never have a wife or kids of my own so why the fuck would I give a damn about some random cunt I don't even know? The only women I have moral obligations towards are my mom and my sister.
>>522132502basically only what he said >>522132800buy something of value in cash and hide it. small amounts over time, then you can reasonably claim you gambled it away or something like that.anything that has a paper trail and they WILL sniff it out and take it from you. their job is to rape you as hard as they can to reward the woman, and they enjoy that task. so you better not expect any legal technicalities to get you out of that mess, because they are way better at those than you are.
>>522131446Bend over bitch
>>522134405So it's time to admit the central conceit of the patriarchy being necessary because men protect / nurture women is bullshit. The responses to this thread proves it.
>>522134367Soon the sociopaths controlling the state might even force unpaired men (only men) to pay even more taxes to couples who besides fucking know nothing and turn their kids into sociopaths like they themselves are and who will terrorize us.
>>522131624she's talking a lot of shit for a 5/10 with makeup on...
>>522134493Feminism is terrorism. You get shot on the spot
>>522132320western society just fundamentally worships women, so it can never criticize them.you can criticize foreigners. maybe it will have consequences, but you can do it, and other people will agree with you.you can even criticize jews, with the same result.but if you criticize women, you will not find any supporters, and the retaliation will be devastating.
WHITE WOMEN ARE THE PROBLEM
>>522134493We don't live in patriarchy, dipshit. We haven't lived in one in over a century here in Finland. Women have been equals in law with men for longer than even my parents have been alive.
>>522131776none of this happened
>>522131446another fertility collapse thread
>>522134414I'm saying that I'd be a business or trust, and married men can make a deal with my business where they buy the house or car or w.e. in my name, to keep it away from harpies. It would at root be some kind of fraud if not done properly, but anyone can buy anyone a house, so I can't imagine this idea would be impossible.
>>522131446Why is it race mixing every time?
>>522133884why should we wait?why should we allow it?why not force them to do their duty?is that not women's own number one sexual fantasy anyway?
>>522131624People really don't get it. She's right but she's still so far off the mark. Yes, dumb bitch. They set it up so they have workers who care about you and will do things like die for you or perform labor in exchange for some kind of life. This woman's offspring, if she ever has any, will be enslaved to jeets and Muslims. If she has daughters take solace knowing all the liberty she enjoys will be stripped from he progeny under the threat of extreme violence. Her legacy will be selling her children into slavery to satisfy her gross desire to punish ugly losers she didn't have to think about or ever even look at.
>>522134493No, the fact that women still have the very good position they have in the west, despite having all-but-completely abdicated their duties to society, proves that men do protect and nurture women. That the one-sided deal is only now beginning to crumble proves this as well, otherwise men would've turned feral on women en masse long ago.
>>522134675we are past the point where judges actually give a shit about the law.they have already decided how they want to rule, and the only thing left to do is to sniff out your assets and find any excuse is some subclause that lets them seize them, no matter how well you tried to hide & secure them.the only thing that might work is if you play it woman vs woman. like everything technically belonging to your mother.because then it's no longer a case of >fuck over this man for the benefit of this womenwhich they greatly enjoy doing, but>fuck over this woman to benefit this other womanwhich they'll be way less likely to bend the rules over.
>>522131446Fuck off bitches you are not getting married.Get back to fucking work.
>>522131624Most genetic diseases are carried by women.
young white men must use force to repeal the 19th
>>522133551Higher expectations give you more leverage. Society asking 'what should men do?' means you're framed as having the power to act. You get to set the terms.That's influence. You can either exploit that position or complain about fairness. One is strategic, one is cope
>>522131446>Be man>Be expected to earn more than wife>Knock up wife>Be expected to provide majority of childcare while wife spends nine months "recovering" from pregnancyHonestly at this point I think the only solution is forced lobotomies for all Western women when they turn 18.
>>522132048Marriage is slavery.
>>522134844Yeah that is the rub. Maybe I could be an asset pimp to a bunch of asset-owning prosties. I have a roster of spinster women who can act as the asset owners, "little old lady charity case" types who won't be fruitful grounds for accusations of infidelity. Husbando pays me, I assign assets to a spinster and manage them, spinster gets a stipend for very little besides keeping her credit, etc. where it needs to be, and not fucking with the assets. The more I think on it, the more it strays into organized crime but it's fun to think about lol
>>522132770>Needing to pause to read that paceBut no she said nothing valuable
>>522134493No, you're actually just fucking retarded.
>>522131446That makes no sense. Women can get pregnant any time they want to. It's entirely up to them.
>>522132770How slow do you read?
>>522134949one of two things is going to happen, either>we remove women's rights, society healsor>society collapses because we didn't remove women's rights, women lose their rights anywaywe can do this the easy way, or the hard way
>>522135103Yep, and they dont want to because everyone is a hedonist/capitalist out for their own gainsWhite women are the most affected by this naturally so whites are dying out
>>522131446>women are those who get pregnant (don't)>it's men's fault Didn't author have biology lessons in school?
>>522131446>Get off the gaming PC and talk to modern womenNah. Lmfao.
>>522132436And yet you did>LOOK LOOK I’M IGNORING YOU SO HARD Kek, pathetic infantile bonus hole
>>522132436Not an argument.Go get pregnant first
>>522135189it's pretty much inevitable, yeah. the only question is how much damage will be caused before it happens.although, who knows, men might just decide that having an advanced civilized society is not actually in their favor, because that always comes with too much resource transfers to women they do not even know.
>>522134576It's just SO fucking psychotic because the arguement>We don't have kids because we don't want to and we don't think men deserve itIs fucked up but at least holds water. They don't want to do it so they don't. Fine.But how in the FUCK can they even begin to mentally justify>I don't because it is actually your fault
>>522131446>Pay about 300 USD per month to fuck thin, young women in Laos and CambodiaLol, no. I'm never going back to western women. I plan on meeting and marrying a nice Chinese girl once I hit over 80K per year in qualified dividends.The marriage and divorce laws are now much better in China than in America and the women are much better on average. They actually think and rationalize, sometimes to an extreme degree, but still. Age gap relationships are also the norm the many East and Southeast Asian countries. I've had zero issues talking with young 18 year olds being almost 40.
>>522131624>mediocre men shouldn't reproduce but mediocre women yes>what is mediocrity? Height? Penis size? Bank account? >she forgot rape and violence are natural and civilization champions women uselessness and chivalry>she would rather die>umm ok?>she is unaware men are obsessed with younger women not old women>you are nearly 40, why are you still alive? >civilization is basically why you exist in the first place otherwise your average dad would have never reproduced.>Women are correcting that>she hasn't figured out pornography, video-games, lgtb agenda, atheism and xenoestrogens are the main culprit tldr CHAD ONLY.
>>522132495>If everyone thought the same way you did humanity would go extinct. Do men really not feel any kind of duty towards women anymore at all?If we are talking about humanity survival it's men's duty to strip women from rights.Worked entire human history.
>>522131446the last time i got close enough to listen to women talking to each other unintentionally, they encouraging each other to raise cats and have adoption instead of getting pregnant themselves with their husbands and their boy friends
(((Goldin)))
>>522132817>birth draftNice slogan, rolls from a tongue.
>>522131446The Day of the Rape is NIGH
>>522131651Is he a boy or a girl I am confused
>>522135309>But how in the FUCK can they even begin to mentally justifyrule of thumb, whenever the other side's argument makes no sense or is logically incoherent, they are lying.this is just another negotiation from women. they don't want to have children, so they don't have any. but they know that children in general are desired by society, so they claim that the only reason they don't have any is because men aren't slaving away hard enough for them yet.they lose nothing, because even if men fall for the trap, it's not like women are now obligated to have children. they'll just continue to not have any and make up another excuse.it's a lie that has no consequences if it's called out, but a lot of benefits if it's taken at face value, so they see no reason to not just lie.
>>522134493The Parriarchy has always been a response to hypergamy you 'tard.
>>522131776Women fucking suck at housework. Somehow my gf makes the apartment dirtier while she is cleaning, she is constantly trying to "reorganize" which just makes a huge mess everywhere all the time. Like just clean and put things away, god damn, stop tearing the fucking house apart every week.
I have a sexual fantasy of living in a world where if you see a person you're attracted to, you can approach them on the spot and if they agree, have sex with them in the nearest least-public spot that's convenient. So like you see someone in the grocery store, you can approach them, and if they're down, you both just go out to their car and do the deed. And the kicker is that it's encouraged due to the fertility crisis, and you're supposed to try and get them pregnant, and if you do, you're completely and utterly off the hook in every way. You just see someone you like, take them out behind the bleachers, creampie, sayonara. If they're so desperate for more slaves, THIS is how they could do it. THIS is how I would "step up."But making a whole new person whose entire life outlook depends on me, at the neglect of everything I could want that doesn't include them, and with endless possibilities of it going wrong, which I would never recover from? Nah.
>>522135555sorry but your gf is a dumb bitch. cooking cleaning and sucking dick is literally all women are good for. if she cant do that shes literally a retarded waste of space
>>522131624you can just tell she loves to be choked during sex
>>522135413I plan to meme it into existence. It's cool because it doesn't really get pushback from anyone except trannies and feminists. Easy idea to move forward.
>>522131446I dont owe women shit
>>522135555total skill issue, any girl who had a good mother/grandmother figure knows how to
she gives it away at the end:>“Reversing progressive change,” Goldin notes, could have the opposite effect and “lower the birthrate even further.”LMAO at trying to blackmail us with SUB-SUB-REPLACEMENT rates as if that makes any senseits all bluster now cuz they have ZERO leverage, men already know we wont get sex from these parasites complaining about literally 1 hour of alleged housework
>>522134493Denounce the Talmud.
>>522131446Umm, I have children older than you ugly brown spamming freaks, they also hate you.
>>522131624>it was set up so only losers could get a wifeFunny how evil always projects. Also, worthy mention, that dating profile of the Chad that said he was a child molester and then went on to get tons of matches
>>522135365Yeah sounds about right. The one single aspect of life that is remotely challenging for them (pregnancy) they simply refuse to do, even when society offers them insane benefits for doing it. Meanwhile men are working 12 hour shifts in warehouses and shit every day.
>>522135794as the anon said about womens sexuality, "what is evil if not encouraging evil?"
>>522131446Why is our society literally incapable of having women be held accountable
>>522135512They always give themselves away because they don't even fucking LIKE children.I am an adult man. I am dismissive with other people's children because I don't really want to talk to them and because I don't want to get accused of being a criminal.Women my own age react to children with active disgust. It's very noticable compared to my indifference and particularly striking when you see it because it looks biologically uncanny to see women react to kids with flagrant disgust.
>>522132879When I was little I'd see girls high school age fawn over some woman's child and stop to remark how cute it was or if at someone's house wanting to hold it. Once I got to be that age girls paid about as much attention to babies/toddlers as they did for a tree in a median.I remember this cute girl I was friends with in HS saying she thought that all babies looked creepy until at least 3 and only one of her friends thought that was strange in any way whatsoever.
>>522132436Nope. Its a statically proven truth
>>522131900I run circles around any woman who thinks she can keep up with my domestic responsibilities. Women couldn't have it any easier and yet they're still completely incompetent with the most basic of tasks
>>522132527To add onto this, the only reason women are fucking Chads non-stop is because birth control, up to abortion, is so effective there is practically a 0% chance of them having a child if they don't want to.Ironically, the only reason these "superior" men are having sex with women is because the women know they will NOT breed them. If you remove birth control and abortion, women would generally be more careful with who they have sex with.They claim they're only having sex with men that are genetically superior, yet not breeding with them. Sex without procreation is biologically useless and doesn't matter.
>>522132622give her to me. I live for spanking thots like that. She’ll be dust in the wind by noon
>>522135690it would be morally justified, tooif it is fine to draft men for war and force them to throw their lives away even they don't want to because "it is necessary for society", then you can very easily justify forcing women to have children under the exact same reasoning. the sacrifice demanded of them would be basically nothing compared to that asked of men, too.naturally, they will want to murder you if you say that.
>>522131776BASED DIGITSBASED POST
>>522135555check'd quads
>>522131446Step up means rape right?
>>522131446Countries where women are slaves and get beaten to death for speaking up have the highest fertility rate. I vote for that system.
>>522131900men already do most of the domestic labor, modern woman are just lazy af
>>522131624Niggers are complete psychos yet had marriage in their tribes so this cunt is wrong.
>>522135794Most women are losers. Take away the pussy and most women live utterly pathetic lives.
>>522131900I’m not doing housework. That’s a female’s job if she lives with you. If she wants a career unto; of that, I wont complain. But she better have the house in order.
>>522134767Its sad that bitches dont understand cause & effect and that the very basis of civilization is marriage in its many forms. No pussy, no work, no city/infrastructure/army.
>>522131446>Goldin argues.sniff, sniff. Smells like jew pilpul.Checks early life; Yep, It's a jew.
>>522131776>have job to snatch career woman>quit job and live at home with child>divorce>profitInteresting.
>get a job goy jamals kid needs a stepdaddy
>>522136034My sister is basically the same, kekShe will tell absolutely everyone that she does not like children, does not want to have children, and will react with visible disgust towards children.And then she'll turn around and try to claim that she's not having children because men aren't up for the challenge and would need to work a bit harder before she thinks that's something realistic to do.I can tell perfectly well that she got that idea from reddit or some other social media cancer too, because all her talking points have a wording that feels really uncanny when listening to it in German, but would sound natural if you translated them to English.
>>522131446Women do not want stay at home dads though, they want somebody that they see as equal or higher social status (makes as much or more money than themselves)
>>522135555When I was a kid I watched my grandpa build a deck by himself, while my grandma was busy "getting organized" (20 minutes moving some papers around and then 4 hours watching tv with her curlers in)
>>522131446>Mankeeping Is Why Women Are Done With Datinghttps://archive.is/I6Vd8
>>522136280>They claim they're only having sex with men that are genetically superior, yet not breeding with them. Sex without procreation is biologically useless and doesn't matter.Very important observation.
>>522131446The only way to fix this is to weaponize women's jealousy against them. Muzzies have insane birthrates because men can have more than one wife, which forces them to compete among themselves for the husband's attention rather than getting lazy and entitled. Since polygamy is never getting legalized here, we'll have to find some other way to make them jealous, such as skewing legal immigration in favor of women or financially incentivizing men to marry foreign brides. We can even do it under the guise of "helping oppressed women from patriarchal countries" or some BS as long as it creates more competition in the marketplace.
>>522131446Nigga, these women get carried like it's a LoL game and they don't want to date any spergs with Lower Elo than they have.
>>522131624We really need to bring back mental institutions FAST!
>>522133325Don’t take it seriously, dude. It’s just propaganda designed to divide the sexes by demoralizing men and enraging women. When the big boys wanted lower fertility the message was that more women in education and the workforce was good but men were blocking them. So women had to “fight” to get ahead..Now that they want higher birth rates it because men won’t step up.
>>522134291Women obsess over this shit because they believe so hard that their work needs to have some level of fulfillment. Whether it's through the work itself or relationships with coworkers.Men don't give a fuck about any of this shit. We show up, work, and go home. Women sold their prospects of having a family in order to work, so they have to convince themselves that their work matters, whereas men accepted from day 1 that their work doesn't fulfill them at all and isn't supposed to.
>>522136539This
>>522136679Women are just parasites that deserve literally nothing. You should only give them what is necessary to get what you want. They should have no rights at all. They are too stupid. The low intelligence is what makes them very emotionally (lizard brain) dictated and they can’t understand most higher concepts so see little wrong with lying etc. we just had a thread about indians and their izzat. It’s exactly the same for women. It’s a low intelligence phenomenon. They will forever lie, and destroy and ruin everything in a bid for personal triumph and to be able to be a boss bitch.
>>522131776Checked and wrecked
>>522136762>skewing legal immigration in favor of women or financially incentivizing men to marry foreign bridesKek based, but those are the stick. It can be applied best with carrots like>Social rewards and privileges for officially recognized good mothers (awards and social recognition will tie their competition with each other back into being a member of a family)>Free house with birth of third child to same parents
>>522135337What she doesn't understand is that women do not select who has the best genes or who is biologically superior and fit to breed.You know how the best genes were sorted out in primal times? Men fought and killed each other and then took the women. The women never had a say, and never decided anything. The idea that modern women in 2025 somehow have the hard-wiring to determine who the most genetically superior man is is absolute bullshit. In no point in history did women ever decide who did and did not breed until recently. And even then, the freedoms they enjoy are upheld and guaranteed completely by men.
>>522136582It's this easy to understand. I don't know why everyone acts like it's a mystery
>>522131446>salonlmao, come on...
>>522131446
>>522131446They're getting desperate. Men dying old and alone as a hermit is totally natural and has always been the case for many. Or dying young and alone in battle. Foids thought they could handle it, that their cats and baubles and digits in a bank account and travel instagram account would be enough. They were wrong, as any sensible person could have predicted.
>>522137165>Driving ALL countries to extinction>UM UH WE ARE CORRECTING FOR NATURE
>>522131446women hate men who step upthey only want to have babies with men who abandon them
>>522131446And it’s men’s sperm quality that drops with age. Not a women’s eggs.
>>522137355What is their secret?
>>522131624Two words>Fisherian >Runaway
>>522131624she is actually pretty smart
>>522137563they're "exciting," not boring like some nerd with a stable job that can afford a house and car
>>522137651no, you're just retarded
Man, OP got tired of trolling pretty quick.Probably had to go get wasted after pretending to be a feminist for 6 posts.
>>522137469Absolute cope lmao
>>522137680Sometimes you have to be a nigger to the world.
>>522135009Shut the fuck up, boomercuck
>>522132495Shut up hole.>Do men really not feel any kind of duty towards women anymore at all?Not for blown out western roasties, no.
>>522137563Monkey brain female preselection bias.
>>522137651How, that's pure emotional rambling
>>522131446I would rather let the human race die than put up with the faggotry of a w*man.
>>522131900You think you’re clever, being a little internet faggot annoyance on purpose, but you aren’t
>>522137816"Basedcel is the nigger of the world." - Holden Caulfield
>>522131446The world doesnt deserve whites. I will be keeping my genetics hostage until the world changes. Only jeets and kikes will rebuke this.
>>522131446>women don't need to stop being greedy, evil whoresKek
>>522135664>cooking cleaning and suckingThey are tolerable for it, they are never good at this if they look even remotely fuckable.The more experience they have, somehow, the worse fuck they are.
>>522137651kys retard
>>522132622>>>>>Reverse-mortgage the house and siphon the value off, don't hide that you're doing this, instead pretend to go out drinking and gambling.What you actually do is buy gold / silver - in less than 10,000 dollar increments with cash only from multiple different locations - and bury it somewhere / store it with someone you can absolutely trust. You're really gonna stay there for some house you paid for you don't really own and never will?
>>522135512>it's a lie that has no consequences if it's called out,Calling it out means culling useless dried womb who never tried breeding.There's a lot of consequences they're too obtuse to entertain.
>>522137909Kek, I actually just began listening to the audiobook for the first time.
>>522138290And btw this happens all the time, not the selling of the house thing but selling of the other person's stuff. There's really nothing the courts can do, it's legally both of yours equally right now.You are fully within your right to sell the house and go out drinking - only you won't be drinking, you'll be sucking up that 300k or whatever and burying it underground.
>>522131446Nothing stops women from going to a semen bank and raise a kid themselves though?
>>522137165Obviously, the entire women's evolutionary toolkit is designed to keep a man around them. Nature selects men by ensuring men can sort among themselves the most deserving and women have no strength to fight back and resist their choice. Women in turn find the strongest, most dominant male attractive, because that's the only male they are sure will have first choice of female. Liking a weaker male is useless because the stronger can always take her for himself if he so pleases. Women don't even realize their very nature is being unable to make choices for themselves, which they display in every circumstance. Women like this one are just acting performatively in front of a camera for attention
>>522135690>children of the throughF for my meme collection, this is exactly what you propose.
>>522135009>I am actually stronger by you stealing from meOK, we are now doubling your taxes and also you have to do 10 hours of charity work per week unpaid, this will make you stronger. You are setting the terms here. Show up on monday with a shovel and mulch.
>>522136995The root is that jews hate whites BUT need whitesTheir schizophrenia is the reason everything sucks. You can't have 2 different realities existing, they chose no whites and infinite jeets and that's what they will get
>>522138378Good book, I don't know why faggots hate it
>>522131624would dominate this submissive
>>522133929Do you think women ever consider being held accountable for their decisions?
>>522131624>>522131446>>522131651>>522136744>>522137355Women need to be sent to Nazi style death camps and the ovens need to be real.
>>522132495That's Right, Retard. Women chose to betray half of the species and start the game of global implosion and men will end this game and the entire world that women can live in will collapse.Your world will burn. The economy, the infrastructure, the businesses. Why the fuck not ? If men built it, they can wreck it too.Now the fun part is that men have been struggling with the hardness of life for most of the centuries.Women are not genetically and socially programmed or prepared for the savagery that comes with a collapsing system.Socialization ? Gone. Intimacy ? Gone. Comfort ? Gone. Security ? LmaoAnd What in the Actual Fuck are you gonna do about it ?And here comes the best part .Men only have to do one single thing in order for your ecosystem to collapse : Nothing. And the process has already started.
>>522133996>modern women>modernKek. It's not modernity that's the problem. You're just seeing women for what they are with no restraints in place
>>522136744>It means being your partner’s one-man support system. Managing his stress. Interpreting his moods. Holding his hand through feelings he won’t share with anyone else.>women: SHARE YOUR EMOTIONS, OPEN UP, YOU CAN RELY ON ME>men: ok, here's what I'm feeling>women: NO, NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!! UGH YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING PUSSY I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO HANDLE YOUR EMOTIONAL ASS, WEAK MAN"Mankeeping" is just what men do for women by default. Women are emotional hurricanes. It's up to the man to be a stable, solid foundation for her.Ask women to do the same and they'd rather be single forever and never talk to a man for the rest of their lives. And then they'll wonder why men don't "open up".
How do you date in the age of background checks? She knows you own X property worth X dollars before even meeting you
>>522137346In a way, they are. Because monogamous societies are inherently anti-nature. We're not "supposed" to be doing this shit. But we cannot have a functional civilization if all of our men are busy killing each other over women and then raping them.The funny part is that they're openly admitting they want to destroy civilization because average men don't make their pussies tingle.
>>522138714Because it’s not good and you’re just dumb, sorry
My girlfriend makes almost 70k a year and the most I've ever made is 55k a year. I'm trying to get a job making 85k a year as fast as possible. Otherwise...what, I'll be a house husband?Thats the problem, men don't make enough money to even be betabux anymore. I can't even buy a house with 80k savings after wagecucking living with my parents. Now I'm a NEET and I have no idea why my girlfriend is still dating me. I'm going back to college after the holidays but what the fuck will an associates degree even do for me?I feel like that's part of why she hasn't fucked me yet 3 months into the relationship.
>>522138644do you genuinely believe that it would go to that extreme?
>>522138378I was too pussy-obsessed when I read it in high school, and plus I was probably living the lessons it might've been teaching, so I got nothing from it.
>>522131446kek, anything to not take the blame, add it to the list
>>522139217I'm trying to be generous to them cause for better or worse I still love the little pituitary retards. Why yes, I did have a histrionic mother I had to parent as a child, and an absent father. How did you know?
>>522140012>no pussy in 3 monthsdude its genuinely over
>>522132495I feel nothing but hatred for people who use me, abuse me, and decide its my fault. I rather die than piss on fire to put them out. They are wrenched freaks who deserve a slow and painful death at the hands of their pet niggers and 3rd world freak show.
>>522136995>Don’t take it seriously, dude. It’s just propaganda designed to divide the sexes by demoralizing men and enraging women.copethe problem is entirely womenmen being demoralized is a good thing because theyre always free to recorrect the women
>>522140012>Hasn't fucked you in 3 monthsUnless she has some kind of medical issue or advanced autism, this is unironically when a lot of actual marriages are over. Both men and women cope and seethe and make shit up to justify trying to continue but if either of you wants to fuck and it's just not happening, shit is over.I'm not telling you to give up btw. Maybe the end of such a relationship could play to your advantage some way; I don't know your life. I just mean to look realistically at what's going on there.
>>522140012Ticking time bomb, sorry brother
>>522138332it would only have consequences of society as a whole called them out on it.an individual guy doing it doesn't matter. it will piss her off for sure and she'll probably seethe for quite a while, but for every guy who does it, there are a 100 simps lining up to take his place.so from her perspective, that lie carries no risk.
>>522137165>The idea that modern women in 2025 somehow have the hard-wiring to determine who the most genetically superior man is is absolute bullshit. In no point in history did women ever decide who did and did not breed until recently.yeah, I always find it pretty funny when people on here go >uhh, actually women are evolutionary hard wired into smelling it ten miles against the windhow would that have happened? they were not exposed to evolutionary pressure (outside of being able to deliver a healthy child, surviving child birth was not even necessary), and they did not get to exert any either.basically every woman who wasn't infertile or sent to a nunnery had children, and they had little say in who the father was.
>>522141011Does it even have a rationale? Or is it just>Situation presents itself>Women insist they should control it, do control it, and always have controlled it. And they controlled it best.Women are unironically the Donald Trump of gender and they don't even understand that it's on full display now kek
>>522140012>3 months into the relationship and you never had sex even once>as adults in a Western society>when she almost certainly had sex beforeMan... she's keeping you around for some weird fetish shit or legal trap that lies at some point in the future
>>522140012just be single and play vidya retardstop falling for the incel/gay meme, its perpetuated by women and their simpsif you want intimacy, use your money on cosmetic enhancements
>>522131446Eh, women had their chance with me and they blew it. I am fine watching all nations collapse under their current birthrate, as women didn't want to be around me I don't want to be around other people.
>>522141157It's just simps trying to find a cope I think.They worship women, so the idea that women doing retarded shit is them just being genuinely retarded rubs them the wrong way. Instead, they make up some weird excuses for why i's totally valid behavior and actually women are in the right to act that way.Women agree for obvious reasons.
>>522141011The hard wiring would come from the primal days, and women had even less say than, say, medieval times.In olden times, women at best were able to tell their fathers what they want or who they like, though ultimately the final say was the father's, and more often than not they'd veto her because she doesn't know what's best for her.In primal days women were spoils of battle. They were just raped into being pregnant, and any of their offspring they previously had were either killed or exiled by the conquering male(s) to make room for their own.Women have absolutely 0 selection instinct. If they did, our divorce rate would be 0, our single motherhood rate would be 0, and our rate of unwanted children would be 0. Yet all of these are at all time highs.
>>522131900women measure their domestic labor as time that the machines are running, while men actually measure when they are doing labor. women are lying retards
>>522133551Shots fired!
>>522140124>>522140673Yeah she still calls me "baby" and stuff and leans on me. I think she's a bit autistic. She would say all this slutty stuff in text but said she wanted to wait to have sex. I think she's been tired from work and her period but once I get home from seeing family for Thanksgiving I'm gonna try initiating sex one more time and if she stops me then I'm just gonna drop off contact.
>>522141262You know, as a longtime /x/fag I've watched that creep into that board a LOT over the past year or so. Crystal cafe colonizers and dipshit simps worshipping some "divine feminine" and Lilith shit... In reference to women. TODAY'S women. Actually mindbroken.
>>522137843exploit it or stay mad. your choice. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
>>522141189She called me "daddy" briefly then stopped. Then she asked my favroite color and told me she had a surprise for me next time I was at her place. Then all that got dropped.She has PCOS idk if that fucks with women's sex drives. She is socially awkward and a bit tistic. I did get a bit simpy with her but I was trying to get closer with her and wanted to comfort her and shit. But I tried not to be too gay about it.
>>522141583>Horniness drops like a stone into irrecoverable oblivion for no apparent reason>Talk of PCOS starts right thenYou better be memeing, anon. This is classic "not interested but still wants you around" behavior.
>>522133103Can confirm.Or they have some weird fucking stipulations or rules that only exist to frustrate you and make you angry.Like, telling me I cant mow the lawn when I need a work space.Telling me they dont want it sanded and stained until a week after its installed and now they want me to take it down and stain it, when I could have already done that but didnt because she specifically said she didnt want it.Wanting things built.Then wanting them built in such a way "they can be moved"Like, just the idea im going to build a house with the intentions of moving it into a concrete pad "at a later date"Its so fucking stupid that I gave up and left. Farms now for sale.Sorry my boomerbane frens.Also:Absofuckingloutly losing it on me because I dug irrigation trenches and dried out a swampy area, then tied it into existing drainage ditches......with a shovel.The me giving up part was after I had to reason with her and explain why im planting mint all over the place, she went and ripped it all up on me because "she didnt want it there"After that anytime she asked me to do anything I told her i need a permit, cause that was her response to literally EVERYTHING. If i had the money, id buy the farm and build a wall around her area.
>>522132839women agitated for every compensation imaginable short of period leave and they just become more spiteful and cunty at every step
>>522141419I think it's just the atheist globohomo's version of >god's workings are mysterious>follow your own religion's teachings>get btfo>cope by claiming that getting btfo was probably in your own best interest and your mind is simply too small to understand how this benefits youjust with them invoking evolution as the higher authority instead.I always thought that there is something seriously defective about the human psyche. a shitload of people would rather double down on a mistake and destroy themselves in the process than to simply go>oh, guess I was wrong, my bad!and fix the issue.
>>522141583>She has PCOSwomen always have some medical excuse for their behavior. in most cases, it's a lie.
>>522131658she looks like my grandmother
>>522141392Yeah the biggest redpill on womand bullshit was during covid when I discovered you can clean and tidy the entire house, without waking her up in 3hrs.Laundry, dishes, floors cleaned, kitchen detailed, literally 100% of it in 4hrs every Sunday from 6am-10am.Then, she decides she doesn't like you smoking weed, after a year.....
>>522137187Its started with the "anything you can do, I can do better" bullshit. Even if they can, they wont. If a man has no reason to, who will? Naturally they will just double down and henpeck men even more. Since they genuinely hate men, where as men are actually just disappointed. They operate on a crabs in a bucket mentality and I hope they are as ok as we are, in equality living in the mud.
>>522141695>Or they have some weird fucking stipulations or rules that only exist to frustrate you and make you angry.kek, I know that one too well. just dumbfuck rules that make no sense to needlessly complicate the task and make you waste more time on it.it's all some game of>how much can I piss him off before he leaves me? game for them because they estimate their social status by that.what they don't understand is that this game can naturally only end with me eventually leaving them when they reach the threshold.
>>522141837This. PCOS is indeed a real thing but it is also the designated reason for "never going to fuck you again except your birthday. Also going to SCREAM at you about my DISEASE if you ever bring it up. Also it will conveniently excuse me from whatever I don't want to do. A symptom will appear just then."If a woman just "has PCOS" and her time doesn't revolve around managing that so she can live a NORMAL LIFE, then it is just an excuse. People who are actually sick would give anything to get well. People who just use it when necessary aren't sick at all kek
>>522131446it's pretty easy to fix the fertility problem by just making children profitable , by this alone you would see these bitches and normalfags do all they can to have more and more kids
>>522131446If society or the state wants me to raise three kids, then I need a wife like Betty Draper or Alison Brie's character
>>522141924The henpecking shit is real dude.I grew up in a boomer family where they just mass married another family. They spend every Sunday sitting around burger king bragging about all the sick shit they do to people, trying to one up each other.All I've ever known is that dead look in their men's faces, I see it, and even to this day the boomers still torture each other for fun and abuse their kids as a fun game.Their daughters grow up, do it to their men and get their faces re-arranged.The vast majority of women in my country are such a lost cause that we, as white men might be better off bleaching and then marring off our hapa daughters to be RE-bleached just to not deal with western women.>suddenly colonization makes sense.Well, fuck.
>>522131446>We're equals >But also you need to do more I don't want to play this game
>>522141690>This is classic "not interested but still wants you around" behavior.Why does she still want me around? Because I simp for her?Yeah honestly I think it's cause I'm unemployed. I'm glad I didn't introduce her to my family yet. I already met hers. Idk what kind of girl is wacky enough to want a boyfriend she doesn't have sex with and who doesn't have a job. What is even she getting out of the relationship at that point?
>>522131624lol. The people having kids are often the ones who really shouldn’t
>>522142028pretty much. a woman who has PCOS and wants to have sex with you will constantly be doing some new memeshit therapy to try and curb the symptoms.a woman who is never bothered by her PCOS up until the point where she needs an excuse is clearly lying.works well as general rule of thumb btw. whenever their illness happens to be convenient rather than being a hindrance, you know they are full of shit.
>>522142028>>522141837She hasn't used it as an excuse I just don't know if it can cause libido issues or weird periods. I had an ex gf and a female friend and a gfs sister in law who had it as well.
>>522131446Rhetorical question, as a hWhite male, why would I want to bring in more kike-owned slaves into this plane of existence and contribute to more hell?>Son's American mother instantly agrees with the kike-trained doctor's aid about chopping 33.3% of his dick skin off right after birth and selling it for profit because... reasons lol all the other moms were doing it so I did too hehe sorry son oopsiiies>Son's American mother instantly signs a birth certificate registering the new slave unit with the eState of Not Yours, Inc. bonded to slavery for life to entities he will never know exist>Son's American mother is highly inclined to troon him out before he reaches 8 years old.>Son's American mother is highly inclined to cheat and divorce the father in order to take 50%+ of your hard-earned and make him want to kill himself>Everyone including your own mother and family sides with the Son's American mother because reasons lolYeah, no thanks.
>>522131446The only reason birth rates are low to begin with is women having jobs. It has fuck all to do with anything else. The poorest countries on earth with the highest birth rates all have one thing in common: women are typically not employed outside the home. Note how the kike author is telling the exact opposite story, since the last thing they are trying to do is increase our birth rates. All this birth rate shilling is 100% meant to be an excuse for infinite migrants.
>>522131446Tongue my anus, kike.
Okay, lower my cost of living if it's that important to youNo? It's actually much more important that billionaires pay as few taxes as possible? Then fuck off
>>522142203>Idk what kind of girl is wacky enough to want a boyfriend she doesn't have sex with and who doesn't have a job. What is even she getting out of the relationship at that point?This is what makes me so critical of the situation. I am extremely suspicious of the intentions there. It's also just the timing of things. It's all happening in this very specific order that they can plausibly deny as random but never is.
Women have won. The only way to be happy is to just admit it and submit to your women masters....
>>522142017>the farm is now for sale.Well. That's the end result of playing games with me, the worst part....I've given her roughly 1/4 of what shes "asking" for the farm, to help her.Its honestly amazing how quickly I IRL destroyed my family just by stopping sending money back home,Since being open and upfront about the abuse I've suffered, im back to being the problem child who's cast out into the cold dark unknown.>looks in driveway. And I bought a lifted truck.Its amazing how much money you have left over when you stop supporting people who actively hate you and want to fuck with you.Moral of the story, if someone tells you "treat people the way you want to be treated" kill them before you turn 12 so you dont face criminal consequences, in Minecraft of course.
Laziest motherfucker I know went to the Phillippines to get his wife.
>>522142347>Its amazing how much money you have left over when you stop supporting people who actively hate you and want to fuck with you.I had a similar experience during COVID.>"Uh, no Anon, we cannot associate with you anymore until you took the shot">go "okay" and no longer associate with them>magically, 80% of the problems in my life disappear by just cutting out the 3-4 people who were the nexus of all the shit in my life
>>522131900If you refuse to cook and clean and housekeep, you refuse to be a good woman.You can go ahead and cry about misogyny to your childless grave and the world will be a better place for it.You worthless cunt.
>>522142322Yeah man I don't get it either. Last time I saw her she wouldn't kiss me open mouthed. The time before that she texted me afterward saying "I'm sorry I'm not so physically affectionate lately babe I'm just tired" she would let me fingerblast her but not actually fuck. She called my dick big even though it's not She was horny for me and now she's not. It hurts because she's a cute short stack and I like her but I'm not gonna be a beta cuck orbiter bf.
>>522142017Have you ever played "hoarder tetris"Where they want you do so a simple, easy task. But the vast majority of your time is de-hoarding and constantly moving things around so you can do a simple task.I've had to do it alot, and its honestly at the point we should just kill hoarders.I openly support genocide against people with hoarding disease because of the stupid fucking games I've been subjected too over my life.If walking in a straight line is impossible because your mentally unable to throw out junk or clutter, or you have some disease where you need 4 broken tools instead of one that works, you should be killed.Seriously, its fucking bad dude,Its a poor people mentality too where they cant throw things out but anything you leave out gets mysteriously vanished and they pretend to not know.
>>522142637Unfortunately, I found being emotionally volatile like I have BPD gets them excited. You either need to be overtly aggressive or provide a sense of stability. Probe her psyche a bit by openly watching videos with attractive women as the focus. If she gets snarky, she still cares.
>>522142637Yeah. That doesn't sound great and I'm unironically sorry to hear that but just remember that it's not your fault. She pulled the bait and switch. Shit happens.The only time a "she gets nothing out of it" situation is ever valid is when it is known to be temporary and the woman is the exceedingly rare "just wants to be a good wife" kind. Doesn't sound like your current girl is one of those, though. They're instantly recognizable and you'd be too busy chasing her because of that to post here. If women are going to suck these days, at least find one who is more pleasant to be around. At least that much is definitely achievable, anon.
>>522131900No. I work so my wife doesn't. If I make a mess of something on my own accord, sure I'll clean it. But I am not fucking cleaning a mess made by you and the kids while I'm working.You don't have to do anything but keep the home clean, the kids alive, and food ready. That's literally it.I have to pay for it all, make the decisions, safeguard our money for retirement - I am literally responsible for any and everything that can hapopen.Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
>>522140021White people are literally the only group right now that pays net taxes.They already have gibs programs for old people, women, and minorities, cripples, special scholarships for all of the above, nothing for young white men.The forced charity is literally all that they aren't doing, except they're doing that by taking taxes and giving the money away. We already are at the point where they're just outright stealing from men.
>>522142969they think more emotion means you care more, but they also think they have power over you and have buttons to press
>>522131446>Men, you need to man up! By becoming subservient to women! Desperate losers willing to degrade themselves at the behest of women already exist. Women can fuck them anytime they want. But they don't. Because men who are desperate losers aren't attractive. Chad will never do menial labor for you.
>>522131900Women need to fight in more wars
>>522140021>that extremePoliticians are already publicly discussing a draft if the middle east/ukrain get too out of hand. How is doubling taxes extreme when they can legally just send us to die?
>>522142670I told my GF that I am fine helping with chores, but if she does not like how I organize things, she can go fuck herself with her insane ass backward system. She keeps the WD40 under the kitchen sink for fucks sake.
>>522131446isn't it the other way around??? that in countries with higher fertility rates men do more housework and child care because they have kids?like what the fuck does this even imply, that when I somehow start doing child care without a kid I will have a kid soon??
>>522142969She's never been snarky like that. We've been watching Wednesday together mostly because I loved the Addams family movies as a kid. The problem is if I say any of the teen characters look hot I'll get called a pedo. >>522143003She's very pleasant to be around. Just kind of awkward and quiet. I think she is very introverted and gets tired of people quickly. She's seeing a therapist and her parents are divorced. I want to be patient with her. Esp cause my only rebound if she dumps me is some jeeta I fucked 6 months ago and probably ain't down for another booty call. I'm just trying to be a stable attentive boyfriend for her because she seems really stressed. Like she doesn't have the energy to play any games. I don't either.
Just gonna say.. Ive had 3 kids in the last 3 years. My woman is not a modern day cunt. No care for lgbt, no time wastes caring about anything other than food and kids. No tattoos, doesnt drink, smoke etc.Im old though. 39. Id suggest people have kids younger than that.
>>522143200>WD40 under sinkFOR WHAT PURPOSE??
>>522131446>try to offer something>EW NOT YOU, YOU'RE TOO SHORT
>>522131446Men's support for women isn't unconditional.She just wants men to act like slaves for women.Women seems to forget that it takes two for a relationship to work and always double down on their retarded shit because they'll find another man who wants to fuck them.Then, they'll end up being 50 yo and childless or single motherd of a single kid and they'll keep blaming me for the shitty lifes that they've made for themselves.Honestly, they only have left shovels upon shovels of shit to eat if they continue with this egoistic attitudes
>>522131776holy checkd!
>>522143063Not if they know you like to burn bridges. Its just a big game of gay chicken. But I deal with more bullshit on here than real life. So its a drop in the bucket to play along. My psycho mother taught me all the tips and tricks from personal experience.
>>522131900The article is horseshit you troon. Countries with the highest birth rates have low rates of women working outside the home.
>>522143243yes in countries where men already do alot of housework fertility is still very low and lower then 2 , the problem is that women now have better job opportunities + kids now take money and time (this wasnt the case , in the past kids were basically free investement )
>>522143284All the best to you, anon, but one last thoughtDon't [thoughtlessly] dump years of your life into "being a good boyfriend" in a world where that is very unlikely to every be meaningfully appreciated. If you really think through things and choose to be there for a broken/semi-broken person, it's all good. Don't end up living your life just for the virtue signal, though. If you're a good guy, everybody who matters already knows that and you don't need to prove it in literally every situation. You are young and deserve a life too.
>>522143442>holy checked>no digitsTripfags are fucking retarded
>>522131446Are marriages still a scam to steal money or are we removing this law?
>>522131651That's a Jew, Jew.
>>522135555Kek my homies baby momma would really arrange the kitchen every week, so you'd always spend all your time looking for things.She, as a house wifau who did nothing all day would cook and leave us enough food for one person when we got home, usually around 9pm.She wouldn't acknowledge me as a human being, so fast forward 10 years im working up north and living with said homie, and shes a single mom in a trailer with a string of men who fuck her and leave, and its just a topkek now cause she got fat.
>>522143243The implication that its mens fault for not having kids while also being sex pests that love rape and try to worm their way put of using condoms is straight up honking hilarious
>>522131446Millennial women didn't want to fuck me when we were in our twenties, so.. Not my fuckin' problem.
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>>522143552>doesn't know the difference between a namefag and a tripfagGo the fuck back new faggot.
>>522143091Woman need to be raped, in general.
>>522141392Kek, reminds me of a conversation I overheard between my wife and a buddy's girlfriend. The girlfriend was amazed at how clean everything was and asked my wife how she could stand to spend so long cleaning every day. My wife just looked at her funny and said it takes like a half hour to an hour each day, with maybe a little more on the weekends. The guy's girlfriend was flabbergasted and immediately asked "what do you mean? It takes at least two hours to wash and dry laundry." Wife told her it takes 5-10 minutes, tops, and that the time spent waiting doesn't count at all, since she's free to read or work on crafting projects or look up recipes or do whatever else she wants to do. They'll do the same thing with childbirth as well. They'll use the entire time they were in the hospital for their "how long I was in labor" metric, as opposed to using the time spent in active labor. For our first child, she was in the hospital for 28 hours, but she only spent 4 of them in active labor, so that's the number she tells people whenever they ask. Bitches get so fucking angry at her whenever she explains why that's the only number that should count since the rest of the time is spent waiting for a sufficient amount of dilation to occur.
>>522143314BECAUSE WOMEN ARE GENUINELY RETARDED AND ITS WHY THEY LIVE IN PERMANENT TURMOIL.
>>522143678Least i know how to check faggot
>>522143669This, we need to remind them and laugh at them.I, as a man who worked hard, take a certain satisfaction going home to McDonald's and seeing a girl I used to crawl over broken glass for being stuck with a loser man, and making minimum wage.They would rather fuck losers than commit to a dude who has upward mobility and a future. Its hilarious but sad.
>>522143511Im 32 so not so young anymore. Already was the boyfriend for a chronic illness girl for almost 2 years til she dumped me for not buying her a house. Honestly casual sex with some whore feels more fulfilling than a relationship now, just knowing some woman actually lusted for me somewhat. Got in a huge fight with my friends who said I shouldn't date while unemployed. I said my only chance at finding a genuine girlfriend will be now while I'm at the bottom. Not broke but I seem like it. I don't virtue signal fortunately but thanks. Its more this girl seems decent and I've gotten a bit attached to her.
>>522143284>I'll get called a pedoShe still cares. Maybe man handle her more.
>>522143791esl tards are not welcome here.
>>522143910>im not wrong cause i changed the rulesHahahaha
>>522135770No. What does Judaism even have to do with this thread, weirdo?
>>522132495The only thing that women feel towards men is disgust, inferiority complex and eternal seethe.In this a woman is no different from a negro
>>522143428Even if men act like slaves, it doesn't make women like them, it makes women repulsed by them. Women are operating on caveman instincts and their feeling when they get an excessively submissive man is>Ew, this guy must be super low status and not able to protect me either socially or physically - I should upgrade when I get the chance.Women want a man who's up or across, and they judge that by whether he acts like he's up or across.
>>522143728One women i last talked too wanted to go 50/50 on everything regardless of how unrealistic it was.I make x2 - x3 what she does and could financially abuse her into a position of submission within a week, by her own logic and rules.Also alot of zoomer-milenial women grew up seeing their mom's do 100% of everything and their dad's sit there and watch TV and never move a muscle once they got home,Ontop of boomer parenting where they buy 1 chicken to split between 5 people and give the wings and bones to the runt of the litter, instead of buying two chickens.Seriously, talk to people who were raised by boomers, the long term effects of child abuse they thought was "good for them" are directly responsible for the collapsing birth rates.
>>522131776The final redpill is realising that feminism (getting women to work) is a psy op by men in order to stay at home and chill while the wife pays all the bills.
>>522131446showing a nigger and lighter skin in the very picture when that article is made by jews or jew addled leftists for women who can fuck men bear their children and then enslave and bankrupt the man while giving no tail, bjs or keeping house or helping raise proper adults.fuck that shit.
>>522144072You can be 6,6,6.Once your there the quality women are locked behind a "requires a uniform" wall.
>>522143889No no, I WOULD but I haven't said that yet. Also she's very meek idk if she'd even say that.
>>522132495Do women really not feel any kind of duty towards men anymore at all? How pathetic...
>>522131651That’s literally a Jewish female saying the men are noticing too much and need to go be reminded they exist to serve jews or die.
>>522134493>I'm historically illiterate The patriarchy is part of the Mos Maiorum. A set of Roman customs that made the pater familias the legal responsible and tutor of the family, by the time of the late Republic it was already dead.Is beyond pathetic to claim that a society which gives women the tutelage of kids by default and sees old men as a dead weight is a patriarchy
>>522144233STOP NOTICING, BOYIM!!
there is no solution to this , the system of modern urbanised industrial life is not sustainable and would make society rot very slowly , it has its advantages in higher tech and human quality of life but it's not sustainable long term
>>522144225Now? Anin one of the oldest written stories is about how women wouldnt even listen to god himself. Take that allegory whatever way you want
>>522131446Until society owes me something, what do I owe society?
>>522144207Its time to do some light psychanalytics to see if she gets jealous with doing some plausible deniability. The worst thing to do is to throw away something good over a misunderstanding. Make the hypothesis, test it.
>>522144580Alright I'll give it a shot. Maybe talk about some actress being hot?
>>522135189Honestly women have destroyed the work place. They become office whores and ruin marriages. They try to boss men around because of some BS feminist ideology. They create law suits out the ass. They need to stay as assistants for scheduling, waitresses, or typist for transcripts. Anything else is a waste of money and opening yourself up for failure. Very few women have made anything out of themselves self made. The outliers are not worth the risk. We must place women back at home. Kill the fast food industry, kill the porn industry, kill the video game industry. Only home owners can vote since they pay property taxes. 1 vote per house.
>>522135189be the change you want to see in the wotld.
>>522132436>"no point in replying">replies
>>522131446>>522131624>>522131651>>522131776>>522131900YOU'RE ALL INDIANS LARPING AS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT XD
>>522144683>>522144683>>522144683HE'S INDIAN NOTHING THEY SAY MAKES ANY SENSE ANON XD IT'S ENDLESS COPING AND PASSIVE AGGRESSIVENESS
>>522144683>Women when the birthrate conversation comes up
>>522144606Simply expose her to you being exposed to sexually attractive women. Keep doing this and take note of her tone, body language, behavior. Do it in such a way to make her think your sexual attention is going elsewhere. It can be as simple as watching travel blogger videos starring some bimbo.
>>522144930Alright thanks man I'll do my best.
>>522131624She's a prime example of subpar genetics. Good point !
>>522143973>erm what do joos hav to do wif feminism durrrrrrKill yourself immediately
>>522145036The number one rule is to make sure she thinks she is not being observed. Subtlety is key. I would never comment on the womans looks, only to make it known that I am looking at more women, more frequently that just so happen to be attractive.
>>522145036Also that therapist she is talking to might be the problem, see if you can see what they are talking about. If she is on any SSRIs or such, that very well be the problem.
>>522131651This prime example here is why corporal punishment was and will remain the the right solution to deal with the pussy jew
>>522142330Lol, why did she do that?
>>522131624men btfo yet again
>>522142637>because she's a cute short stackNow I get why you didn't drop her first thing.
no hymen no taxes no war
