>I just need slaves really bad
>>522131548u guys are fat fucks, get on the fields
>>522131548>If we free the slaves, cotton will be too expensive
>>522131609I saw one of those nightly news specials about immigrants picking watermelons in Florida they said they were getting paid 20 dollars an hour but no one local wanted to do it for that wage I don't know who to believe the white Republican farm owners or the beaners
>>522131548Have they tried paying the legal minimum wage for their farm workers?
>>522131785They are definitely lying
>>522131548Is picrel even legal?
>>522131548Robots will do all that shit soon enough anyway
>>522131902No, that’s why they get illegal spics to do it.
>>522131548Farmers used to have 10kids to work the farm so they didn’t have to hire illegal spics.Farmers fucked themselves.
>>522131785You hire Americans that aren't slaves, you have to file W2s, you have to provide compensation for injuries, you have to worry about them unionizing, demanding health insurance, stealing (good luck getting the cops to give a shit or enforce your harvest security). They're going to slack off, quit randomly, walk out. They're going to bitch, you're going to have to track their information to send out last paychecks when they just don't ever show up again. You've gotta be prepared for false injury claims. You'll need to worry about overtime. Go over 40 hours, gotta give em health insurance because of Obamacare. Gotta pay time and a half. Sick days. Accrued leave. They're going to steal, and you can't just whip them. You can't hang the threat of ICE deportation over their head. They'll just steal and walk out and you won't be able to do jackshit.
>>522131958If I was an illegal I would be insulted and go back kek
>>522131609Yeah, people don't understand what fucking parasites farmers are. They have an average household income higher than Indians (in fact 150% of the national average) due to subsidies and tax treatment, and still insist on paying slave wages to ilegals. It is an absolute scandal how much they get in the way of handouts and other favoritism.
>>522131548this is the difficult reality nobody is willing to accept.Not only is native labour ultra expensive, it just doesnt exist in many cases.Pajeets on the other hand are billions and will work for 1/4th the money of the native
>>522132090Illegals have zero self worth and will do anything for a dollar. Plus once they’re over here they really can’t refuse lmao.
>>522131686LolIt'd be drug addicts looking to boost food and farm equipment refusing to piss test before hurling themselves into a piece of machinery for a handout. Actual citizens don't have to give a fuck. Maybe in decent areas you could focus on getting local kids to do it, but a lot of them would probably become carnie tier hangouts for the worst of the worst.
>>522131785Farmers are snakes. I saw one on TV who wanted to call himself a good ol' republican American but he didn't want the republican party to deport his beaner slave labor force. Farmers are the subhuman scum of the Earth.
>>522132211Time to restart operation wetback
>>522131686Pay mePay me enough to not be forced to share a bedroom with 3 strangers that steal
>>522131548Pay 50$ and more for hours and you will find people
>>522132108Gotta afford that new $1mil John Deere tractor and the mortgage for 6 different family members' houses.Atleast thats how Ive seen it done.
>>522132199It exists it's just no one actually wants to deal with it. It's a headache. The insurance alone would be a headache. Oh and OSHA compliance. Retard doesn't wear his hard hat and clonks himself (on purpose mind you) and now you're down a worker and dealing with an insurance claim. Another retard chops his fucking hand off and now you're down a field hand at a crucial time. No one with standards would do the job, so it's to be fair to the farmers, it's got to be migrants, or the lowest of the low citizenry looking for drug money and booze.
all farmers are fucking scum. the same shit here. farmers are all on the governments teat. they get lots of grants from the government. and for the EU like half of what they do is give subsidies to farmers, its disgustinghere theyre all crying because we made a law that you cant destroy the local environment and ruin peoples health, and they want an exemption on that. its a reason for them to act like niggers and destroy shit. they have massive fucking lobbies toothey produce SHIT. they will produce the lowest quality they can get away with in order to have the most profit margin, these niggers dont care about anyone except for themselves. theyll hire millions of foreigners to work their fields because its cheap. they legit do not give a shit about anything except moneyfarmers are basically niggers and jews rolled into one stinking package
>>522131548Yes they will if you pay them (also eliminate welfare for brown people)Plus we have lots of people in prison who could be doing this work /thread
I don't believe him. We don't have 3rd shift factory jobs anymore
>>522131548>White Americans are unwilling to do physical labor for $10 an hour, cash, with no benefitsftfy
>>522131548The work isn't hard, they just don't pay you enough to do it. White people would be better at these jobs because they have better standards of living so they can go to the gym and eat well.The only advantage spics and pajeets have is that they will ''work'' for as little money as possible.I do work on my family's farm and I can lift more and I can do it faster than any illegal faggot. I just wouldn't do it for 2 dollars an hour.
>>522132563I didn't think of prisoners, but theyd piss and shit in the food and stab each other in the fields when no one was looking and it'd probably attract a lot of gangs and organized crime. I'm all for chain gangs though, but you'd need someone on a horse ready to club one in the event they tried some shit.
>>522131548>Jewish americans don't want to pay livable wages*FTFY
Here's the choice an American citizen has:>Spend 8 hours a day doing something you don't want to do and get $360 per week from an employer.>Spend 8 hours a day doing whatever you want and get $360 per week from the government in welfare benefits.They'll choose welfare every time. Welfare is undercutting American farmers and making it impossible to hire workers. Get rid of welfare, and these farmers would have plenty of local labor begging for a job.
>>522132031it's the same in construction and warehouse work.I used to do independent contract work driving forklifts and loading/unloading. Many times I'd be unable to communicate with the other workers because they only spoke spanish and were hired via a temp agency that takes the fall for big corporations.>hire illegals thru temp agency>this protects the corporation from any sort of legal responsibilitynow you know why temp agencies exist
>>522131548US Americans aren't willing to pay US Americans to do physical labor and would rather assume Brown men know how to properly perform the physical task, and that they're willingness to work for less pay is because they have a lower standard of living, because they come from a third world shit-heap.
>>522132702cool hand luck was an awfully jewish movie.
>>522131902Only if the worker is tipped, which farmhands aren't.Federal minimum is $7,25 with some states having a minimum set a bit higher.
>>522132211The average wage for unskilled labor in Mexico is about $20USD/day. This is big money for those dirty taco benders. That’s why they come to the US and drive down wages. The farmers love it, the spics love it, all while it destroys wages in the US. None of the spics are trying to assimilate or become citizens even. They just parasite wages. And every dollar that is remitted from the US to Mexico has the added effect of removing money from the domestic economy. It’s one of the reasons that exporting manufacturing to China has had a doubly negative impact on the middle class in the US.
>>522132795Yeah it sucks, but I think farms would see it even worse. Even forklift driver requires certifications and OSHA compliance. "Field hand" would just become another colloquialism for drug addict. It'd be guys doing the fent lean in town showing up for a single pay period before fucking off. Everyone imagines it as white people in button up shirts, just doing their first summer job. It wouldn't be, because the first thing you do is pick the cheapest option you can abuse. They'd skimp out on all that and hire retards or fall back on prisons, and that would cause problems of it's own. Now the farmers are paying kickbacks to the state to increase petty crime sentences...So they can make slaves. Now you get a speeding ticket and it's 6 months in jail. Have fun on the farm!
>>522131548Too bad. Pay more. Invest in automation.Its just too bad. Too fucking bad. We cannot sustain a constsntly increasing rate of immigrants. It has to stop.
>>522131548It’s all part of living in an oldocracy. Young people don’t need land scappers to pull their weeds or mow the lawn or plant flowers. They have the energy to do it themselves. It’s the olds who need this shit.
>>522132750read here: >>522132031farmers/construction jobs/warehouse/dish washers are all illegals because it's easier, less risky, and cheaper than hiring Americans.Illegals get welfare too, I agree with you about welfare but the problem is illegals can't sue for injury, can't strike for better wages, always have deportation hanging above their heads and basically have no rights because of it.
>>522131548Pay more, hire local kids
>>522131906Theyd be doing it now if they started investing 30 years ago instesd of destroying the country.
>>522131609Every empire in the history of ever has used slaves. Get over it.
>>522131785Farmers are 100 percent bsing. They pay like 3 dollars in hour if you are lucky
>>522131548gringos shouldn't stand for this. Mexican labor and immigrant labor aren't needed in the US. It is a lie, a vessel used to bring over Mexicans and further stratify and weaken gringo power concentration to lower societal cohesion and pressure on the US ZOG Golem government.Gringos should relentless report any and all farms they suspect of Mexican or illegal labor to ICE, repeatedly until they do something about it. Do not let up.
>>522131548Just let the free market correct itself.
>>522133040Oh there were drug addicts at the temp agencies. They rotate them every few weeks so nobody gets too comfortable.>Forklift driver requires certsyeah not if you're a temp agency worker you just say you know how to drive a forklift and they let you do it
>>522133229Jesus that's grim. I'm sorry man. You deserve better as a qualified American worker.
>>522131686Akshually it's the browns that are obese. Not saying the white numbers are good but in comparison...yea
>>522133077>illegals can't sue for injury,They can and they have
>>522131548I don't care if farmers, who cannot run their farms without shitskin slave-labor, go bankrupt. In fact, I hope they perish.
>>522131548KEK get out their Zoomer!!
>>522132900Cool Hand Luke is a classic. Youre just a brown cunt.
>>522133278Exceptions don't break the rule. Anything can happen with American court, but I have no doubt countless small injuries or even serious ones are handled under the table.
Offer a better deal
Pay more money retard. Pay. More. Money. Fucking boomer piece of shit.
>>522131548There is not a single agricultural society that did not run on what is effectively slave labor. Call it “peasantry”. Call it “temp workers”. Call it “illegals”. Call it “slaves”. It amounts to the same thing: some group of people is going to get the shaft. They are going to do the grunt work nobody wants to do, but also not receive the benefits. Would Americans be willing to do this work for the right pay? Sure. That’s not the question to ask though. The question to ask is whether that amount of pay is economically viable. And it likely is not. History tells us it is not. No society ever had its own full fledged citizens be the primary cotton pickers. It’s never happened, and never will. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we can move on from this insane, puritanical nonsense and build a real society. (Yes, a society with a slave class, as all societies have had). Pretending that Americans would be willing to do those jobs is just another shade of white guilt. Slavery is ok. Slavery is necessary, in fact.
>>522131548We give israel $10,000,000 a day, billions to egypt, jordan, ukraine.We could subsidize farmers in America.We could also make people on welfare work on farms to get that welfare.We could do alot, but neither party wants illegals gone. The gop is horrible
>>522132007Lol this is why everyone killed each other in the past. Imagine being born as a literal slave to be worked as a farm animal, only for the eldest son to inherit the whole farm and be left with literally nothing. Absolutely terrible.
>>522131785>they said they were getting paid 20 dollars an hourIn the contract you demand the employee has to live on site and you can't commute into work. They then charge you $3000 a month to live in a caravan/trailer and another $1000 for food. That way these people only get paid $500 a month/$3 an hour after expense. I've seen it before here in the UK.
>>522133337It's not an exception illegals have an army of lawyers working on their behalf because conservatives told their not go to university
>>522132031>Go over 40 hours, gotta give em health insurance because of Obamacare.Republican business owners don't want to give their employees healthcare, but also don't want the government to give them healthcare either. Rightoids are narcissistic, psychopathic, and sadistic.
How the market works>supply goes down>therefore, price goes upHow boomer economy works>supply goes down>refuse to raise the price because of 'moral principle'>bitch and moan to the government to bring price back down>'kids these days just don't work hard'
>>522133471At least if you're just an illegal (slave) if you really want you can just go back. You can self report. That's at least arguably more ethical than owning them outright as property.
>>522132338I am starting to understand why the commies gulagged all their farmers.
>>522131902this shit is why we end with all kinds of ultra cheap US foods like beans in supermarkets in Europe. they are literally using slavery to flood us with this crap.
>>522132702Well you’re not going to put serial killers in the field You can pay them money to work in the fields and give them some nice fresh air. If I was in prison I’d volunteer to pick cotton to get out of my jail cell for a few hours
>>522133545Republican farmers just want slaves. Same with hotels and other establishments that rely almost exclusively on migrants. White women aren't going to show up to clean hotel rooms of dirty condoms and do laundry all day. Everyone here is just calling it what it is, and debating the arguable necessity of some kind of lower social caste. The farmers aren't necessarily wrong, they're just (arguably) dicks.
Family farmers are the biggest welfare queens, market boards and subsides to help out multi millionaires
>>522133626"Normal" prisoners and "nonviolent offenders" are often just as disgusting and depraved. Anyway you split it it's either a dreg or functionally some kind of slave out there. At best it could be local kids, but now you've got child labor laws to account for lol.Game is rigged no matter how you cut it. There's no ethical winning move.
>>522131791That wouldn’t be enough to get Americans to uproot their lives, go to a farm and pick vegetables all day. Working hours would need to be reduced drastically. Benefits would need to be offered. And minimum wage likely wouldn’t even be enough. The profit earned by the farmers would decrease and this would de-motivate people from becoming farmers. It couldn’t work. Hate to burst your bubble.The issue is that we are straddling two goals: free market capitalism and homogeneity/high trust society. If we acknowledge the simple fact that we probably cannot sustain our society without slavery, then we can go back to a temp worker program. The problem is we got idealistic and puritanical, and thought “hey WE Americans should be picking carrots”, and eliminated the temp worker program. But we never realized that we Americans, realistically, won’t be doing this. And so instead of temp workers, we now have illegals. Amazing.
>>522133040>Even forklift driver requires certifications and OSHA complianceI don't want to argue, but people do die from that shit all the time. A dude even died from that last week in my country, no joke. A forklift is a pretty heavy piece of machinery and it's extremely important to have one's with about you at all times when driving one.
>>522133686White women would do that, if you pay more money. Pay more, jackass.
>let yourself get fucked by monopoly farm holders >"No. I can't do it without slaves, I need to make a profit!"Kill all these retard farmers, they voted for it Hire Americans, sell to Americans
>>522133547Boomer lectures about "basic economics" and "millennial entitlement mentality" don't include the law of supply and demand. How much something is "worth" is determined by a boomer's arbitrary and capricious whims.
>>522133471yeah, explain every other developed nation in world not having beaners for agriculture?
>>522131548>White Americans are unwilling to do physical labor...for less than minimum wage while also not getting any legal worker's rights
>>522133159It's better that you don't import them and create a permanent underclass/tax burden.
>>522133845Good Farmers should be demotivated family farms should be replaced by factory farms just like small workshops were replaced by factory’s
>>522133159Okay? The farmers should have the common decency to care for their slaves then, instead of pawning their upkeep off on everyone else. The farmer should also be held responsible for securing them, keepimf them under control and be held liable for if/when Jose gets his fifth DUI smearing a minivan full of kids across the highway
>>522131548I’m going to force OP to work at gunpoint for free since he’s brown and retarded, what else are you supposed to do with them?
>>522132031>I'm the biggest thief around but I would have to worry about my employees stealingThey're going to fill up their pockets with carrots and walk out? Farmers are such retarded niggers.
>>522134129A crackhead will steel every tool and piece of scrap they can get their grubby little mitts on, farms are full of expensive shit for them to jack and pawn off for drug money. Just saying.
>>522131548There are plenty of poor FBAs and poor gringos who can work these farms jobs. The are also millions of very poor white Eastern European men who could easily come in through an H-2A visa.
>>522131548>employ illegals at 1/4 rates they'd pay whites>meme whites into believing college is the only path to earning a good living >repeat for 40 years>Trump removes illegals >Reeee why are whites so lazy Unironically, zooner neets are the collective hero the West deserves
>>522131609fippy bippy
Why don't they just use robotics and AI to do the work??
>>522132108>higher than indiansYou're a retard. Indians have 8 incomes in a household. Everybody has a higher income.
>>522134236Being a fieldnigger isn't a path to a good life that's why migrants are doing it. There's a whole spectrum of jobs for good living for white people but "professional fieldnigger" is not going to ever be one of them.
>>522131609Why do you think Jews and republicans want Indians instead of white men?
>>522134327Indians study hard subjects though broMexicans and Black's and most whites can't do computer science or advanced economicsWe win spelling bee because we have those quick brains
>>522134352fieldnigger/construction/dish washer jobs are for teenagers before they start college or career
>>522133686>White women aren't going to show up to clean hotel rooms of dirty condoms and do laundry all dayThat's a perfect job for humanoid robots teleoperated by jeets. Jeets already own over 60% of hotels in the country. Patriotic hotel reform would redistribute those to White millennial/zoomer men.
>>522131609Yes capitalism historically and to this day needs to grease its wheels on underpaying [someone]. It can either underpay brown illegals or or can underpay white hillbillies. But the while system collapses if you make socialist demands like wealth redistribution via higher pay.
>>522131548https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/1992442676554404190?s=20
>>522131548I’m a farmer>What do you do?I hire other people to farm
>>522131548>Whites won't work for less than minimum wage>No we won't increase automation and mechanizationThan sounds like your business should collapse
>>522134483>there are any children left to employyou have boomerbrain. fix birth rates, demographics, etc then you can say, job is for teenager. usually, it's some 70yo spic
>>522131548If you can t afford to pay someone to work for you, scale down and do the job yourself. Stop LARPing as a business owner and just tend your garden.
>>522131548These people are fucking lying. corps and large farmers only hire browns because white people have a high turnover in field work jobs. They're only willing to pay south American slave wages and so white people quit because the work sucks and the pay is low. Who would work in a field when you can work in an air conditioned office for minimum wage?
>>522131902Yes because agricultural laws are written like every farm is a farm run and owned by a single family of 8, hence why you can have 8 year olds picking tomatoes in California.
>>522131548Gaurentee me a place to live and 3 square meals and I will do all the back breaking labor
>>522131785They charge them to rent hand tools and for the provided lunch and water.
>>522131548>take away jobs from rural agriculturalists>give them to retarded beaner illegals>deport the beaner illegals>wtf where did the native white farmers gohuh
>>522132031Wow damn, imagine having to run an ethical business practice. The farmers are right
>>522132938you haven't been tipping your farmer?
>>522133523Usually here the farmer knows a guy with a flophouse he is renting so they agree to cram 12 of the workers in there. The landlors gets the inflated rent and doesn't have to worry about upkeep because if the browns complain to anybody they get deported and replaced meaning they pay to repair it as well. That 20 bucks an hour is also for 14+ hour days with no overtime and a 30 minute, often times working, lunch. The whites (and legal browns but nobody evers says the browns won't do the work) still won't and can't take the job anyways since tje Farmer isn't paying OT, isn't covering insurance for his 50+ workers and doesn't allow the state mandated breaks or any other worker's entitlements they habe to provide to legal citizens.
Farmers believe they have a birth right to being multi millionaires that work 30 full days a year. Despite the fact that they have never been profitable without subsides
>>522131785half goes to cartels who smuggled them across the border. they were making beaner slaves wear wristbands now they microchip them with dog chips. no work = cartel murders their family.
>>522134352It's not only farmhands though: construction, landscaping, haulage and other trades have all been undermined by boomers looking to save a buck and pricing whites out of business.
>>522134919Well globalism makes agriculture unprofitable so if you want full employment you just need to stop global trade which is a complete waste anyway and provide nobody with anything of value besides plastic waste products. Every once of these spics and the people that hire them should be shot in the head
>>522131548Its a good thing illegal immigrants only accounted for at most in the largest buisness sector about 14% of the workforce. Op puzzles jew cock yet again. America for Americans fuck off you tranny nigger faggot kike maggot
>>522131609>manual workers should be paid more than European Aristocracy
>>522134197>a crackhead will stealWow and the sky is fucking blue. How the fuck can you run a successful business if you can't see an obvious crackhead coming and asking for employment? Are you retarded? I love how every reason you give is "Farmers are greedy, and they don't want to run an ethical business" so therefore they should be able to use illegal immigrants and it's A-Okay. Get fucking real lmao
>>522135020America for wealthy Americans, not random manual workers. If you don’t own a buisness and/or live off asset ownership you can fuck off
Pay me $25 an hour and I will literally pick cotton for you in the hot sun. I have a bachelors degree and no one will hire me.
>>522135016American Factory farms are profitable, this is the business equivalent of being a shoe cobbler and complaining
>>522131548>I want to pay slave wages>Why does no one want this great opportunity Mental nigger
>>522131548>what do you mean you don't want to drive out to the middle of nowhere at 4am to make minimum wage picking produce>you just don't want to workPay people or automate it. I don't care. Slavery and indentured servitude is wrong.
>%50 to %60 of our labor force is undocumented Why is this not considered a felony with mandatory jail time?You expect citizens to respect your legal system and society when it behaves like this?
>>522131548>we've tried everything but paying more moneythere is a price at which americans will do it, and we'd all be far better off if it was found and the invaders removed
>>522135104I own land and have a small buisness anon. I repair appliances. I don't rent out my property it's homestead. America for Americans.
>>522134483So instead of having people who gain experience in farming you perpetually have people you are training who leave after 3 years? Sounds brilliant. Better hope they take those farm jobs instead of flipping burgers for the same pay too.
>>522131548Farm less? Pay More?
It's not that Americans are unwilling to do physical labor, it's that the pay for physical labor is lower than pretty much all other jobs.
>>522131548its true, you need to get rid of welfare first, then white trash will be willing to do really shit jobs
Economy of scale has changed the way every business has operated since the Industrial Revolution family farms have been bailed out since to earn votes
If your business fails without illegals after already being subsiding and tax exempted maybe it should fail
>>522132031depends on the state the federal laws governing agricultural work allow non-unionization, less than minimum wage, no OT and a bunch of the shit your greedy boomer ass is bitching about. Who in the fuck would hire farm workers as W2's anyway?
>>522134919Farmers have always believed in >socialism for me but not for theeMost Americans probably dont even know that farmers dont need to pay for building permits or taxes on building materials and that they get special low interest loans from banks. Or that farm kids have numerous scholarships that grant them free college tuition. Then each election season we get to see "farmer" politicians denounce socialism and complain about young people not wanting to work anymore.
>>522135521Oh so it's set up to make a slave
>>522134919YepFarmers who get a contract with McDonald's to supply potatoes or lettuce are basically lotto winnersThose deals last for years and are rock solid
>>522133278Then that employer was a retard who wantes to pretend he was on the up and up even though he was already breaking the law. Everyone else just dumps paco at the ER and forgets he was ever working there.
>>522131902how he fuck do the illegals even live? even without taxes, they must live in hovels and subsist on rice
>>522135249>Why is this not considered a felony with mandatory jail time?it is. The problem is it's not enforced. The laws have been on the books for decades. Blumpf, or any other recent president, could have started locking people up on the first day of their presidency if they actually wanted to put a stop to this shit. But they don't. 8 U.S.C. § 1324a
>>522134863Iowa anon here, Sparboe is a big ass chicken company with coops everywhere. That's their whole deal is the supervisor and their family have a shitty house that's within walking distance of their coop then they use allowing them to live there as part of an imaginary wage being paid.It's like when people bitch about slavery and you point out they basically got paid better than we do now if you count their amenities. "Well they weren't really getting that", no shit.Ginger girl l I went to school with used to live in one of those houses because her father worked for the chicken company for over a decade. Their family later moved because the company realized they could cram 4 families into that house and that town now is basically overrun with Mexicans and the city basically bid a TON for Prestage to set up a facility there and hire workers- Prestage keeps getting shut down by the USDA for various animal abuses, beating animals with shock prods when they don't go down, the guardrails for the cows were too short and thus inhumane, then they've also had like 3 busts now where half their workforce gets deported. White people still living nearby tell you they've applied and gotten told they were overstaffed as 4 new Mexicans show up tomorrow and are gone in 2 weeks.
>>522131609Fpbp. These assholes just can't afford to exist without illegals performing slave labor.
>>522132108Is it any wonder? The moment there's a lull in their productivity all of muttland joins in sobful prayer over the reality of the labour per egg crisis.
>>522135144>factory farms are profitable>all illegal laboruh huh
>>522131548Physical labor is one thing. Standing around in the hot sun for 8 hours is something else. I got 2nd degree sunburns as a kid from from swimming in a pool for a few hours.
>>522135294no offense but picking vegetables has a very low skill cap
>>522135294Sure buddy
>>522135897that's why children are supposed to do it, not illegal aliens
God I cant wait for this godless faggot country to fail
>>522131548>lots of people won't doVery Semitic argument. Wierd, because he doesn't have a lot of jewish features.Anyway, while technically true that "lots" of people - elderly, fat, frail - won't do strenuous labor outdoors, "lots" of OTHERS - kids out of high school, young men figuring out what they like - WILL do this kind of labor.
>>522135742Look up economy of scale All farming is conducted using illegal labour, if you deported illegals family farms would fail first, factory farms are more profitable and are more likely to be able to afford to pay Americans
>>522135683Kek I looked it up and up until recently this was the owner of the company >Beth Sparboe Schnell
>>522135683Yup all a racket but if you call them on it it'd always the same hat in hand sob story about how they treat their workers "like family", I hate them so goddamn much
>>522136070>farming isn't profitable without illegal labor>this is because of globalism>even family farms will fail because they use illegal laborso end globalism?
>>522131548
>>522136070Why is it ALWAYS leafs making the most retarded worthless posts on this board? Mega corps especially in AG are subsidized by the US government. Some of these companies are owned by the CCP. It’s all a huge racket.
>>522135804Sunscreen, clothing and hats exist. Learn to layer. If sun burns were a driving factor these assholes would be paying "20 dollars an hour" to the 30% of the population made of legal browns who are working for less bagging groceries or peddling chinese slop at swap meets.
>>522136204this
>>522136221Hey stupid faggot if they ended all subsides, what would fail first the family farm or the mega corp?
>>522131548>We'd love tono they wouldn't. They just don't want to pay Americans an American living wage.
dey turk yer jerrrbs
>>522136334Why is the US government subsidizing third world agriculture if domestic agriculture can't survive without illegal aliens? Sounds like they're purposefully fucking american farmers? maybe we should stop subsidizing the entire world's agriculture industry and let them kill each other
>you now realize the biggest importer of illegals is big business
>>522136187Or we could just have a free open market
>>522131609>>522131548Entire generations have been engineered by boomers to be selfish to own people
>>522136352Revenues have to exceed costYou cannot run a profitable business when you pay your employees more than Bezos and Musk
>>522134564automation probably costs more than >>522131902 after maintenance
>>522136419You’re making me like illegal immigration
>>522136501we already know you're a kike
>>522131548they want to make an unreasonable amount of profit as opposed to paying a fair wage for the work
>>522136187and MAGA will never hold an elected office again when apples cost 5 dollars each
>>522136572No I just believe in economy
>>522131548Clown economy = cannot figure out how to incentivize your nation's workers = import ignorant third worlders to exploit and underpay = clown country
>>522136416If you can’t operate without illegal labour after already being subside and tax exempted your business model sucks and it should fail
>>522136576A business can’t survive paying its employees more than CEOs. Unreasonably high wages are killing business
>>522131548They could have mechanized most farming by now and the reality is farmers have been poisoning Americans for over 80 years and they want hand outs and taxpayers to subsidize the illegals they use as slaves at an average of 60K a year in benefits stolen from taxpayers.
>>522135663They live with 10 other men in an apartment that they only use to sleep and cook beans for dinner. I saw it multiple times while working for rental properties, empty apartment with 10 mattresses laid out on the floor, no other furniture, and an old pot of beans on the stove. The spics that actually work work harder than any slave in history for less and you don't even have to beat them.
>>522136421Free trade means "the US is free to trade with you", "free trade" means globalism. Global trade kills agriculture, it just does. So when the spanish and portuguese set up farming colonies they were essentially declaring economic war against european farmers. US globalism, like Bill Gates, is centered around propping up third world shithole agricultural economies so the US doesn't have to. Literally acting against the best interests of americans. Why as an american would you want free clean and clear access to chinese wheat? You wouldn't. That's why they don't label everything in the store with a flag of origin, because nobody would buy any of the slop in the supermarket
>>522136620>kick out immigrants>pay domestic citizens more than Bezos to pick Apple>hyperinflation
>>522136334The mega corps. They shouldn’t even exist anyways. These companies are monopolies. The only reason they haven’t been broken up is because they hiring armies of lobbyist Jews to bribe congressIf only you knew how fake and gay things really are
>>522131548Unwilling for slave wages yes
>>522136636>more than ceo's>unreasonably high wageskikery
>>522136637No business model can survive paying its employees more than global elites and oligarchs.
>>522136636If you can’t operate without illegal labour after already being subsided and tax exempted your business sucks and it should fail
>>522133471This. Fuck this foreign slave temp worker peasantry invading army. It's literally ALL these terms. Send them all back!
*teabags thread*
>>522136715So propping up third world shitholes like mexico shouldn't be done and we should execute beaners on sight for illegally coming here?
>>522136640Americans don’t want to buy American produced food. Americans want to buy imported food
>>522136684No business can survive paying its employees more than CEOs
>>522136771Americans 100% only want to buy american shit which is why they put american flags on chinese beef It's all a game and americans are losing
>>522136758Yeah they undercut American wages
>>522131785>>522133523>>522134863And on top of all this; watermelon harvesting is seasonal, obviously. So you have Americans who need to make their car payment and their rent/mortgage payment and their bill payments every single month, but the farmer only has work for you a couple times a year if that, and he's not going to pay you the rest of the time, and doing the job on the farm precludes having a regular 9-5 job that will help you make your regular monthly payments because not even McDonald's is going to give you a pass to go harvest watermelons for a month.This is why it's really, really important to heavily penalize farmers for using Mexican slave labor, it is so much easier than trying to figure out how you realistically get Americans to do these jobs and the farmers will (very understandably I think) do absolutely anything to avoid having to confront this problem. Hell, I'm not even opposed to having robots do it, but farmers would have to be up against a wall before they'll start figuring that out.>>522134989This is another danger of using slave labor. There's now a whole class of Mexican criminals who have gotten decades of positive reinforcement for procuring and delivering slave labor to the United States. How do you talk them out of that? You probably won't. If we ever fully cut the cord, they're going to literally start a war over it.
>>522136685The real Jews are the employees threatening to derail the business by demanding unlimited money
>>522136104Doesn't shock me and she definitely looks like those "farmers" we used to have to listen to when they took us up to the state capitol for field trips. I remember when I was 14 (2007ish) we sat in an auditorium or some shit listening to a presentation about how they make business decisions for the state, was listening to some dude prattle on and fucking on about corn and how it can be used for Ethanol which is "the future of gasoline", that shit STILL hasn't taken off to my knowledge no matter how hard they try to shill it. I have seen 3 different companies with ethanol plants shut them down however.>>522136107In all honesty, to them it probably is "like family", a lot of the people who own companies now kind of were born into that wealth and industry. Their childhood was probably a bunch of pretend office work like running papers back and forth and having their parent treat them like an employee they were grooming for management.The worst part of it is I used to work for Cargill which is the largest private employer in America. They used to paint work values and shit in our conference room that they never adhered to, claimed they treated their workers like family which was a partial lie. Let's just say for a company that claimed to care about quality and standards, the QA department that checked over the sanitation teams let A LOT of unsanitary shit slide because they did not care. The last day I was there I walked in to clean a freezer supposedly "clear for production" the week before that didn't run, egg whites sat on the upstairs floor for an entire week and the moment I opened the door from the bottom floor I could smell it. Which just tells me no QA climbed the ladder and just cleared it, wonder how many people have eaten product from that line since it used to make the shit for Jimmy Dean/Tyson.
>>522136861>unlimited
>>522136819Actually America is winning since overall we still import way more than we export Americans want Chinese products that’s why the government has to tariff them.
>>522136892People are demanding $25+ to pick apples
>>522136204Hear hear.And the follow-up question to all the free-market libertarians is, "what is the value of an industry that can not stand on its own?"If you can't sustain a farm without Social Services housing, feeding, educating, and hospitalizing your labor force on the public's dime, why does your farm business even exist?
>>522136706Corporate feudalism is the problem to begin with. We do not have capitalism we have inverted totalitarianism and too big to fail with socialism for the rich through bailouts and a direct line to the fed reserve to print dollars and devalue the currency and their debts at the same time. The plebs are going to figure out they are being actively depopulated in the next 10-20 years and they aren't going to be happy about it.
>>522136951Then sell your business
>>522131548there are no farmers in that picturereal farmers do the work themselves
>>522136951pick your own apples, you fat lazy bitch
>>522136951guess the free market decided
>>522133686>these industries want slaves>so we should just let them have slavesUhhh… how about no? Pay a living wage or go out of business
>>522134564it should, it's a poorly thought out business model if you can't pay a fair wage for the work. They can though, they just prefer not to, and instead to exploit illegal immigrants.... this is why we need to prevent illegal immigration
>>522131548America can automate plenty of their food industry but it's just cheaper to hire Mexicans. There's only few crops which can't be automated.
>>522131548>White Americans are unwilling to do physical laborfor a shitty wage.
These small farms should fail it’s like if we still had blacksmiths or cobblers. Scale and automation removes the need for illegals and these huge subsides
>>522131548Knowingly hiring illegals = summary confiscation of all wealth and property, lifetime ban from votingBoomer knowingly hiring illegals = the above + flogging>>522132031TLDR WHAAAH WAAAH if I hire CITIZENS I might have to respect their RIGHTSThat's the point of the fucking country. Don't like it? Wagecuck, now you don't have to deal with employees.I swear these boomers need to be subjected to Maoist Red Guard style struggle sessions about why ACTUAL SLAVERY is wrong. Honestly I don't even think that would sink in, but the videos will be instructive for future generations.
>>522137013Peoblem is in America they have no serfs, everybody is a Lord/KingAmerica is so wealthy that even the lowest paid Americans are Oligarch tier wealthy
>>522137089No because if we had unlimited immigration we could hire people for $10 an hour
>>522136805That's fine I know an army of white dudes willing to work in the fields for 50k a year which is by my mental math about a 40th of what the CEO is making
>>522137342I can’t tell if you’re a trolling jeet shill or if you’re actually this retarded. Either way, you should kys
>>522131548>buy land>collect subsidies>buy big white truck>hire illegals to do the work>call yourself a farmerfuck them
>>522137098>>522133686I thought you guys hated the global elites?Now you want American farm workers to be paid more than the global elites, effectively creating a new class of global elites?Why should a random farm employee be paid more than Bezos??
>>522137386and how much would that $10 be worth
>>522135249>>522135665I think the fear is, because literally everyone is using migrant labor, >We can't arrest every farmer except the Amish, that's nuts!Thing is, they could just make a few big example arrests and then give the rest of the farmers a chance to shape up. If anyone asks why you're not arresting all of them you can rightfully point out that time and personnel are limited.But they don't do that because correct, there is no legitimate desire to fix the problem.
>>522137386Let ruin all of our Society in order to save the family farm.I hate farmers
>>522137410I think you’re ragebaiting.Nobody on the right would use the term living wage
>>522137435>Now you want American farm workers to be paid more than the global elites, effectively creating a new class of global elites?You could get paid $1000 an hour, 24/7 for your entire life, and you still would not be a billionaire by the end of it. What the fuck are you on about you actual retard?
>>522136951People will demand whatever a livable wage is, that is always going to be the floor. As prices go up, people's demanded wage also increases. In America, people carry the idea that working a full time job should provide you with your bills being paid at a minimum, when a job demands full time hours but can not supply that we do not bother, this is because of how Americans are raised, we very much are "on our own" when we are adults and do our own thing, we leave the nest and make our own, or should. This is different from other cultures that will cram 6 families in a 3 bedroom house splitting bills 10 different ways. Their required wage is significantly lower and their expectations are lower so they don't need a higher wage.The farmers want to pay a third world wage for the labor but expect a first world return for the product from a population that increasingly can not afford to buy these things at that price.25 dollars does not buy you shit anymore. As a teenager if I got 20 dollars I had a whole week or two made for food. This was true as late as 2012. Now 20 dollars is something you can run up with two energy drinks and a box of brownies. A 15 dollar a month subscription to an online game seemed like an insanely steep price back in 2004, now that's cheaper than buying snacks for a weekend to enjoy while playing the game.>unlimited free moneyDon't let the Economic Flat Earthers poison the well. Just because you disagree with them on some tokens doesn't mean you should cast aside anything you share commonality over. They are wrong thinking we can just tax the rich and do everything they want, doesn't mean they are wrong about businesses screwing their workers and getting away with it and boomers gaslighting us about bootstraps and "bad work ethic" when it's an unsustainable work environment.
>>522136684Pretty much. We're at the point where all wages are now slave wages.
>>522137460A lot more if we had more immigration
>>522136951>People are demanding $25+ to pick applesThen by definition the rate to pick apples is $25+You claim to believe in the market, but in reality you believe in arbitrary, made up boomer numbers you've simply decided are reasonable.>But muh groceries will cost moreAnd everyone will be easily able to afford them now that the wage floor is $25+ an hour.Also, memeflag. Fuck off back to New Delhi/Yunnan/Tel Aviv
>>522137528A living wage is $7 an hour.Demanding $25 for apple picking is disgusting
>>522137342They are serfs who have been hypnotized. Everything is based around debt slavery and owning nothing. Having manufactured obsolescence garbage is not wealth. It is trash materialism and worshipping being ripped off. They do not own their homes, they are forced to pay to travel to get underpaid and exploited. They get death taxes, inheritance taxes, every way they can be abused is exploited. You only have to look at the TFR of developed nations to see that they are being depopulated. To think Americans are wealthy is a sad joke. That is the envy of the third world talking when Americans and the first world are just a different type of slave.
>>522137524Slaves got paid $0 and couldn’t quit. A migrant worker earning $10-15 an hour isn’t a slave wtf are you going on about
>>522131785What this basically comes down to is the government subsidizing the work for the farmers because the reality is people wont do hard labor for cheap in this e-con-o-me. You’re either subsidizing the spics entire lifestyle by allowing them to be here and work for pennies or you’re subsidizing whites to have a livable wage since the farmers cant/dont want to pay what the job is actually worth. Needs to be a massive marketing campaign on getting whites to do farm work and unfortunately the government will have to subsidize but the reality is food prices would get raised regardless. Pick your poison, growing the worlds food isnt cheap or easy. Maybe we have to redirect all the funds going to tranny outreach programs in bangladesh but sacrifices will need to be made.
>>522137542In America even the lowest paid workers are paid more than oligarchs now It’s literally impossible to be American and not become super rich
>>522137665You hire them so you can avoid giving them benefits which citizens are entitled to. People like you are traitors and should be summarily executed. This world would be a better place if everyone like you got skinned alive publicly
>>522137581>restricting the labor supply so we can’t freely hire Mexicans is “free market”That’s not free market. Free market would mean we can hire Mexicans
>>522137665Slaves took up 90% of plantation profits and were treated comparatively well for any period of history. https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/economics%20of%20slavery.asp
>>522137528Don’t forget the skyrocketing electricity costs you’re paying because of all the AI data centers these kikes are building. AI that they will use to eliminate your job.>Socialize the costs and capitalize the profits
>>522137665>Slaves got paid $0 and couldn’t quit.Many slaves in history were paid. Many, in Greece and Rome for example, were even rich. A slave is still a slave.
>>522136666>more than BezosThat kike lowering his on paper income to 80k a year to skirt taxes and live off trading stock options and loans isn't an argument you disingenuous shitstain.
>>522137258>playing their gameWe have the laws on the books already; we only have to enforce them. That jew Trump pardoned last term was jailed for running a poultry factory with all illegals.Just arrest employers doing this, instead of pardoning them, and they will stop. Arrest landlords renting to illegals and they will have nowhere to live.Mass self-deportation will happen, if we only enforce the laws we already have.
>>522131548we'd like to obey the law, and we'd like to not be traitors. But, there's no profit in that.
>>522136365>says the guy who has an entire country where teens can't get first jobs because jeets take everything and ruin it for young people who want money for high school, college, or are taking off yearskek i always forget how bad that shitty episode of south park poisoned a giant group of people into understanding how massive immigration fucks with the economy.
>>522137674Farming is already subsidized to the extreme, deport the illegals and it’s on the farmers to find American workers and if they can’t sell to a larger farm that can afford it. The family farm needs to end
>>522137747No, free market doesn't mean no laws; you might as well a free market isn't "free" unless people can murder, rape, steal, or enslave. Hiring illegals is both unlawful and immoral.
>>522137646In the United States, even the lowest paid workers are paid more morny than the Kings and Aristocracy. Americans have the freedom to buy stocks, to borrow money, to trade, to create, to do whatever they want.I truly hate any American who complains about their lives. In America even the most unfortunate soul has more privilege and power and good living than the worlds wealthiest people. An American today has more wealth and freedom than the richest emperors
>>522136033>kids out of high school, young men figuring out what they like - WILL do this kind of labor.May be part of the issue, they really don't want young men to have money
>>522137734Any citizen that wants “benefits” is a traitor and should be tossed in a camp. It’s disgusting
>>522137610>A living wage is $7 an hourThat is literally lower than the federal minimum wage and equates to 14k a year. Show flag jeet
>>522137610>A living wage is $7 an hour.7 an hour would equate to 280 over a full work week, 560 gross if you are paid bi-weekly as most places seem to be. If you're single and without a child your net pay for that check is 442 dollars over 2 weeks, or 221 a week.Cellphone payments are an absolute must now as the world forces everyone to use them, employer needs to call you off the clock sometimes, or text you updates, or your work schedule is on a fucking phone app. You can get a cheap ass one for let's just say 100 a month.Okay well now you've got 196, you eat? Let's say you can eat on 5 dollars for an entire day (RIP nutrition), that's 35 more, so you're at 161 dollars. No wait, you got rent, and let's say your monthly is 800 (being real generous to you, this doesn't even cover a studio apartment in most areas), well that's another 200 a week but you don't quite have that much... Oh and don't forget bills too like electricity, utilities like water, etc.So your head is underwater and we haven't even gotten to a car payment, car insurance, health insurance since no job that pays 7 an hour is gonna offer you health insurance if they cut corners that hard for workers. Also you need gas to operate the car.Then it all sinks in you are orienting your life around a job to maintain that existence. You are tailoring your sleep schedule, and free time, and any potential plans you might make with friends and family around that work schedule and having to at times pass up on great opportunities to show up at a job paying 7 an hour. You work 2 hours and can light the paycheck on fire at McDonald's buying the same order I used to buy when I was 17 except back then it only cost me like 3.82.
>>522137756There’s no difference between a King and an American citizen>>522137870Demanding a wage of more than $25 an hour is extremely immoral and cruel to the employer.And in a free market it wouldn’t be illegal for the Mexicans to come in anyway, we wouldn’t have labor protectionism. The people who protest the immigrants would be the ones targeted
I'll do itfor $65 an hour.
>>522136837We had a seasonal worker visa where Mexicans would come up here for 6 months out of the year, worked the fields, and then go home and live like Kings for 6 months. But that was before welfare. Now you can be illegal, double dip by getting welfare, run side scams, Hit the food bank and have a grand old time
>>522136771Very common lie amongst merchants. They stock the store such that 90% of the options are imported, then when those items get purchased they say it's because imports are what people wanted and not just because it's what they could get.
>>522135663Basically this >>522136638Also we got paid way more than 3 the hour, i got 12 and could manage to rent a room for myself alone and do great groceries, i just didn't do the latter because i saved money just buying canned goods at the dollar store and rice-beans along with milk formula on Walmart, oh and we stole veggies from the farm.The big money funnel for most illegals is having to buy a car and buying beer/drugs every 2 days or so.
>>522137799Fortunately the people went to college, studied economics, and realized immigration is the only thing keeping our economy growing
>>522137783>>playing their gameFuck off. Any time somebody attacks boomers people like you try to downplay it as "Jew misdirection". Meanwhile boomers are the biggest Israel cock suckers and golems in existence. Greenblatt even admits in your pic that their tactics *worked on the boomers*. FUCK BOOMERSYou're right about enforcing existing law though. Everything else is just tacit approval of defacto slavery.
>>522137881lol what kind of brownoid cope is this. The stock market is ran by bots and the top 3%. All borrowing schemes are extreme usury. If you trade you get raped in taxes. Your average business fails within a year. Almost all business fail within 10. If you create here your works will be stolen out from under you. You are participating in a rat race to get nowhere.America is a favela with neon lights where people are being poisoned and depopulated just for the sake of the vanity and the top 3% because they do not want peasants on their land. The real owners want to reduce the global population to under a billion and it is the one thing I agree with them on. It will eliminate most of the brownoid coping and envy that drives their migration waves that have been used to exploit the developed world.
>>522137979Federal Minimum Wage should be $0 an hour and anyone who supported it should be jailed>>522138058If you live on the farm, have no phone, and just eat what the farmer gives you then it’s more than enough
>>522138120i will give you reply cause your bait is so embarrassing and bad it's nuts anyone else has repliedyou should go do your amazing job and stop posting on 4chan if you like the economy so much
>>522138090Nobody should make that much>>522138100I refuse to buy American shit.
>>522136866Bullshit, the "family" excuse is just them trying to live up to the Godly salt of the earth persona farmers have larped at for decades. If they were "like family" you'd think they'd argue for better paths to citizenship so their "family" could enjoy all the benefits and liberties being an American grants. Instead they take advantage of them at every turn and pretend Jose being an indentured servant choosing daily humiliation and suffering to care for his family back home over slowly dying with them is somehow him being thankful for the opportunity of making sure some faggot who has never picked his own crop gets to afford the latest harley davidson sponsored pickup truck.
>>522138189He just trolling at this point
>>522132750It's not just the money either, the $360/week from the government comes with free medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, and if they start working (especially any job which pays even marginally more than the bare minimum) they lose most if not all of those benefits.
>>522138195>Federal Minimum Wage should be $0 an hour and anyone who supported it should be jailedWell we agree on that at least. Every single other point you have made is retarded
>>522137665>Slaves got paid $0 and couldn’t quit.Slaves actually got paid better than a modern day worker in terms of wealth for labor when you factor in their lodging and food costs were generally covered. Back then it isn't like they needed a phone plan, 3 types of insurance, debts to pay off from studying and a vehicle with its own payment and insurance as well as more money fueling it to get to work.Turns out you can live for pretty low take-home wage when everything else is taken care of that you would otherwise pay for. If I worked for a company that paid for me to have a small studio apartment with bills paid provided I did my job I wouldn't need much more than basically food money, isn't like I'm paying 900 a month for my apartment now.
>>522138120Tech growth is the main contributor not pop growth And they must have never taught you supply and demand
>>522138189If you borrow money that means you have right of contract, you are more privileged than the Kings>>522135096This is the worst eagebait I’ve ever seen
>>522138314You don’t know anything about technology or economics,Supply and demand proves you need immigrants to grow the economy
>>522138252There really are people that lousy. It's the same as any other south American that comes in. They think that as long as they can do something and get away with it that God gave them permission to do it. So they will lie, cheat, steal and take from anyone they think has it better than them up until they get punished and come up with an excuse as to how God got them through that too. It's 50/50 at this point.
>>522138120>studied economics at collegelmaodelusionaleveryone who studies economics at goyschool ends up poor
>>522138313People are still much better off now, my apartment is only $2.5k a month and my take home pay is more than that. Everything above that is mine to keep, deduct $600 a month for food and I have free money every month
>>522138506They go on to wallstreet and make all the bucks but ok What else are you supposed to study then lol
>>522137674If only they had machines to do the plowing, sowing and harvesting
>>522135249>>522137466I feel like that would have extreme ramifications towards the food marketsIf anything, they'd have to start with a large warning and "end by" date, before enforcing it
>>522138556>People who study economics go to Wall StreetConfirmed 3rdie who has no idea what he is talking about
>>522138195Minimum wage is attempted minimum decency. Jews are the reason we try to legislate decency.
>>522138235Post flag, hombre"Americans don't want to buy American produced food"You went from democrat>>522135063to ancap?>>522136421
>>522133916The global food economy is a complex network of imports and exports. One country might export grain, while importing meat etc. It nets out to a certain amount of slavery for the entire global system to function.
>>522138530>my apartment is only $2.5k a monthQuite a fucking ludicrous statement when you say it, don't you think? 10 years ago my family had 850 rent for a house that could suit 6 very comfortably. Even right now, my apartment's rent is like 950 in total (50 of this is so I can have my cat, kinda had her since she was a kitten and couldn't just leave her at home since she imprinted on me most) and that feels insane because I remember the size of our house compared to the apartment I have now and this is normal. If I wanted to put up with the gated community strict ass wanna-be posh types in the nicer apartment complex then it's 1300 a month for what I already have just with extra restrictions on what I am allowed to do in my living space.
>>522135249>You expect citizens to respect your legal system and society when it behaves like this?This is THE issue. Laws have become hypocrisies wielded by the powerful against everyone else.
>>522138556Hahahahahahah you’ve never stepped foot in a college
>>522138769Mark Carney literally studied economics>>522138816Living in a regime with a minimum wage law is the most degrading and dehumanizing thing
>>522138846Im a Democrat right now because Republicans have become anti trade and anti migration. My parents are farmers
>>522137665Historically slaves were paid and could even buy their freedom in many cases. Nigger chattel slavery was not the only form of slavery.
>>522139006>>522138952>>522138851You guys are literally feeding with a ragebait troll. Take two seconds and read what he's actually writing.
>>522137674>growing the worlds food isnt cheap or easyWhy do people say this as if we don't actively pay farmers to NOT grow crops in some fields for years as a means of protecting THEIR profit margins? Farmers that take subsidies are basically told what they can plant and how much of it they can plant so the government can effectively price fix agricultural goods by way of artificial scarcity.Initially it was pushed as "letting nutrients get back into the soil" but as our understanding grew we learned crop rotations solve that issue, instead it was enforced so farmers didn't grow too much shit, flood the market and tank the prices on everything.Drive through Iowa and Nebraska sometime during summer and you see a lot of fields just not grown in AT ALL for years at a time. That's not counting the other fields we leave empty because we decided to erect a thousand windmills along the state because God forbid the windmills be near the people demanding them.
>>522138556And got a doctorate in it from Harvard, if you wanna do finance you study finance, if you had a brain you’d know this
>if your US fast food restaurant needs to pay starvation wages to US employees stay afloat, you have a bad business and you should close down>If your US farm needs to pay starvation wages untaxed/under the table to illegal immigrants doing backbreaking work to stay afloat, that's fine and we should import 20M Hispanics to make sure there are always enough here for you to hireIf you can't turn a profit farming in the US using US workers, you shouldnt be farming in the US. Sell the US land, buy land in South America, farm down there, and ship the produce where you will.
>>522138962>Mark Carney literally studied economicsHe has a BA in economics and a PHD in philosophy so calling him and economist is disingenuous at best
>>522138851Just because things were insane 10 years ago means nothing to me now. I live in a big city and have an apartment close to my office.I am grateful that it’s not $3000 a month like my friend Also keep in mind wages are super high now
>>522137756>slaves were paid1/10 ragebait
>>522131548>explain the relation between supply and demand there jimbo>oh you mean the market responds to wage signals?!Here you see the pretentious metropolitan reporter getting social currency through mindlessly accepting the drivel the farmer will provide. >I can't compete with modern industrial farming practices without hiring gray market labor. I guess it's expecting too much for them to be honest.
>>522131686Pay for our gas . Pay for our lunch. Go to hell . Pay for our sunscreen .
>>522139138A lot of these companies grow crops in the US or South America, ship them to Asia for packaging, and then ship them back to the original country to sell. All of that just to save a few shekels on throw away plastic. It’s all very Jewish
>>522139058I only read that one post and assumed he was just a dumb nigger.
If having to pay legal wages will make you go bankrupt, you shouldn't have been a business from the start. Why is our economy so fucked up and when did it become like this
>>522139415Anti-immigrant advocates can’t argue since they’re uneducated
>>522139494You said slaves were paid, nobody is dumber than that
>>522139513In the boomer mind, compensation is communism, being a man is working for free. Notice how they've reveled in one depiction of manhood while peddling another to their descendants. "Being a man" used to be personified by the John Wayne cowboy type - someone who was independent, free, and took no shit or disrespect from anyone, no matter what, almost to the point of bushido death-before-dishonor. Now, "being a man" means abasing yourself before the boss and wageslaving no matter what.
>>522137881Don't buy the propaganda. It's true that you can have a comfortable life by the time you're 40 if you bust your ass, and don't spend money unnecessarily. I've lived 4 to a bedroom with more in the common room, I've lived on rice and beans, and I'm not the only one.
>>522139513“Legal wage” should be whatever the two parties agree to.
>>522139781America has more than enough opportunity stop listening to socialist lies
>>522139752Being a 25 year old and feeling entitled to a higher pay than CEOs does make you appear very whiney
>>522139290You must be retarded like the other guy says, you seem to have an issue with understanding the difference between a raw numeral and the implied value behind said numeral which is what fuels the economy.You strike me as the kind of person that if the poorest person made a million dollars an hour and couldn't afford a box you would say "are richer than Feudal Kings! They have a million dollars and kings only had 64000!"The sad thing is this is shit evident to anybody that's played an old school MMO. Yeah you'll farm more gold per hour as time goes on, but that gold doesn't hold the same value. Funnily, I remember the prices on some farms quite vividly so I also know what markets got hit the hardest when botters were willing to undercut it into oblivion. Flax runs in OSRS used to get you 200g a bowstring in trades at the bank when it relaunched and for a steady while, now bow strings are down to 66g a piece because botting is rampant as well as there being more ways now to get bow strings without flax. So now if you wanted to make gold as a new player doing bow strings you need to do more than 3x as much to get the same outcome. Even funnier, Bow Strings being added to the loot tables were because people stopped picking flax when bots killed the market, then the bots disappeared so nobody was really making bow strings which ended up destroying that gold grind strategy for good.
>>522140063Except that’s not true, even when you adjust for purchasing power, people today live very very very well. The only exception to this is minimum wage workers in big cities.but most people in big cities make more than ever before.You don’t understand what wage inflation is
>>522132108you would not have food without them fatty lol
>>522139080Price go down isnt a good thing for the farmers if they have to dedicate more time/money/effort to harvest more crop for less money. Hence the artificial scarcity. More like balancing supply and demand to benefit the farmer. >>522138607Those arent cheap to buy or maintain and the clankers cant do everything(yet).
>>522132108No business can exist paying workers more than Bezos
>>52214035795% of people wouldn't exist without farming, and that's how things should be. farming ruined the world.
>>522140490You would be the first crying if you were starving because farmers don't produce enough food for you, fatty. Now take your Ozempic and think which world you live in.
>>522132031To be fair union laws about not being able to fire everyone is bullshit, but the rest is hardly an issue.Reality is most staple crops are local labor or mechanized. No one needs watermelons to survive.
If your business can't survive without cheap illegal immigrants then your business can't survive. RIP Bozo
>>522131548> White Americans are unwilling to do physical laborWrong. White Americans are unwilling to do physical labor at the slave wages that decades of illegal immigration undercutting American prosperity has caused. Kick the illegals out. Leave businesses no choice but to pay a fair living wage for a fair days work. Just like they used to before illegal criminals undermined our economic system. The businesses that focus on the American people will prosper. The businesses that cannot survive without slave labor will die out. Nothing of value is lost.
>>522140598I'd either be a subsistence hunter/gatherer like God intended or I wouldn't exist. Either would be preferable to working in IT like I currently do
>>522131548White women aren't willing to work those jobs. Aren't willing to have babies that can have those jobs in 20 years either. Expect to see labor shortages in every country with a population collapse.
>>522140063I used to world switch and buy tunes from Wildy mage in edge or the deep wilderness mage arena. Made like 300m from that and wasn’t all that hard . Easy to sell on the rs forums
>>522131548> White Americans are unwilling to do physical labor>for less than it is worth.fixed for you, jewish shill stirring discord in the states.You'll never be white enough. You have dark hair, dark eyes.
>>522131548If I could get paid what I make now breaking rocks 30 hours a week, I'd probably do itIt's nice to get exercise while you work, and not worrying about work when you're off the clock is pretty nice, too
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>>522140657Expecting a higher salary than Bezos and Rockefeller to do manual labor is disgusting.Nobody wants to pay you more than an Oligarch to do physical labor
>>522133523Oh cool. It’s like taxes. >you’ll earn this much >now let’s just skim some money for your taxes>and here’s the leftovers. >thanks for doing business, loser. Ha.
>>522131548>white ppl don't want toabsolutely bullshit. They don't want to pay white ppl wages. It's the same in Europe. The building companies hire slavs because they're dirt cheap. And if you don't hire slavs, you'll go bankrupt. That's the real reason.
>>522140945Even illegals are being paid way more than they are worth >>522141009Paying employees more than Kings and Oligarchs will bankrupt any business
>>522131548Kikes are not human and are below rats in the chain of being. Rats are our friends. Jews are demons in skin suits.
>>522131548I bought a bag of chopped frozen spinach a while ago. It said "Product of Netherlands". And it was a cheap value brand. I was thinking "Huh, are there Mexicans in the Netherlands?" so I looked it up. Nope. 90% of spinach in the Netherlands is mechanically harvested. Makes sense why they can make a buck exporting cheap frozen spinach all the way to the USA.I really think there should be a right wing movement where we ONLY buy products that can be mechanically harvested.
>>522131548>>522131609>>522131785NOOOOO NOT THE GOYSLOP HOW WILL THE INDIANS GET THEIR CHEAP MANGOS??? ?!? !!1
>>522132031this mentality right here is literally why we have unions
>>522141797He's literally complaining about free men having rights. All that's missing outrage that he has to pay them at all, though I'm sure he feels that way.
>>522131548>White Americans are unwilling to do physical labor for slave wages
>>522133471How did farming work here in the early 1900s before the beaner swarm?
>>522132031Jew. lolOy vey we want slaves not humans!
>>522135804I did lawn work all summer in South Carolina. Just wear a UV Shirt and hat.
>>522142099Or even in the antebellum south before slaves from Africa were imported.
