Was Yakub a real life figure, or is he more of a metaphor?
>>522136712are you saying he was real?
>>522136632Yakub was made up by a bunch of Muslim niggers in yet another attempt to justify their endless cope.
>>522136840some say Yakub was a great scientist who was prophesized by the ancient scientists of mecca (the original city of the space fairing blacks). Somehow i doubt this story is real
>>522136632>IN THIS HOUSE, WE BELIEVE THAT YAKUB CREATED THE WHITE RACE, AND HE IS A HERO. END OF STORY!!!
>>522136956the father of all albinoids could be based if such a story had anything in it that could possibly be realistic, but by all means, worship the talented mister Yakub if you insist
>>522136632Yakub is Jacob from the Bible, the progenitor of the Israelites. He stole the title birth right from his brother Esau by tricking him hence the big brain. He created white people (Israelite) in Greece by giving them knowledge of civilization but this ended up screwing over non-white people when it became Christianity or so they believe. In Islam they believe the Israelites turned away from Allah/God which is the standard Abrahmic belief including in Judaism and Muhammed came to restore the right path of worship of one God. NOI doesn't really talk about Muhammed much since they're trying to frame it around black people and metaphors.
>>522137301hmmmmm, ok, so, if Yakub was Jacob and did it that way as you say, do you then think he was real or still some sort of metaphor?
>>522137486If Yakub/Jacob was not real, then nobody in abrahmic religions was real, the religions are not real so it's a loaded question. They is real.
>>522137729hmmmm, im not trying to frame it in a loaded question sort of way, im trying to be specific. Some people seem to interpret Yakub as black peoples Satan who like rofl caused the fall and corrupted humanity or something sorta, so i have to ask the question. Its sorta similar to asking if you think Satan or the devil is real apparently
>>522137729There is also often some confusion between Blcak Hebrew Isralites and Nation of Islam. Black Hebrew Israelites believe the israelites were black, Nation of Islam believe the israelites were white. They different religions (Judaism and Islam).
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>>522137814In Islam the Israelites were not good people. They were more confused people even if they had a task and kept praying to new gods. This is standard belief across all the religions and the confusion comes from people jumping straight into Nation of Islam with zero knowledge of any other religion (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) so it looks utterly insane.
>>522138150hmmm i think i understand what your saying but i likely just dont know the histories that well. Arnt Isrealites not good people even according to their own bibles? didnt they sin and like you know, wont be allowed to live in peace or w/e and will constantly be tested because of this? isnt that their own words rofl i recently read some stories about how the isrealities claimed in their ancient scriptures to have fought giants in israel as part of retaking it with Joshua i think it was. THey werent really Nephilim this is after the flood so they were remnants, but still essentially they claimed to be fighting the disembowled spirits of The Watchers still and that those things were essentially demons. That part in their bible where they said they steeled their hearts so they wouldnt surrender because he wanted them all wiped out, apparently this was the reason for that and other possibly cruel acts of theirs
>>522137080you worship a 6 armed blue rapist, so what's really your point here?>saar don't question it!!! it's totally realistic!!
>>522138370In Christianity and Judaism, the Bible says the Israelites eventually created the Kingdom of Israel with lots of stories about it but this was eventually destroyed due to the transgressions against God so they are in exile. They need a messiah to redeem them, in Christianity it's Christ, in Judaism it's Mosiach.In Islam they don't cover this Israel period in the Quran, only their escape from Egypt, so it's just straight at their origin with Moses when they are tainted. Whatever the timeline, their line goes back to Jacob/Yakub.
>>522138713shiva raped people? i wouldnt be surprised, i didnt know that lore, thank you>>522138766ok, fair enough, you've given me some neat things to look into, i will look a little closer at the writings of jacob and see if he really was a double brained disfigured black person
>>522138855rape is codified in all your legends, hindubro
>>522139028its always fun to bring up with liberal white women how marital rape is legal in india. the reasoning they said is that it would be too harsh to punish them for it. how did white women reach such low low levels of retardation you may ask? do you really, really need to ask?
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>>522139372extremely black pilling
>>522139028Shiva is the Destroyer, they're not mean to only worship him. They have multiple gods for different time and concepts. NOI's Yakub and Shiva are actually quite similar in that they created chaos and some kind of order out of it so it's respected even if reviled by some. Not surprising an Indian would find Yakub appealing since he resembles a Hindu god.
>>522140462to put it in Hindu terms, the equivalent of Jacob/Yakub would be Arjun or Rama, the progenitors. but in Islam they believe these figures were misguided even if they had a role to play.
>>522142171in maintream Islam, Yakub's tricknology with Esau is not mentioned in the Quran. it is absent rather than refuted, NOI pull up the Bible story to fill the gap. this way mainstream Muslims can be ambiguous or change their position on Jews, white people, black people whatever to fit the circumstances whereas NOI is less ambiguous even if still confusing if you don't know who the hell Jacob was and what he has to do with white people.
>>522142488one other point is that Esau is commonly portrayed as very white with red hair, whereas Jacob is portrayed as more swarthy. They were brothers but the implications is that Jacob won so his descendants are Semites and all it implies (connections to the Middle East wherever they go, right to Israel, Hebrew language etc.). Esau's descendants can be a lost tribe, rejects, Europeans, whatever. This is the mainstream Jewish and therefore Christian view of the narrative. NOI turns it into the opposite, Esau and Jacob were black but Jacob won and his descendants were white people. The birth right should have gone to Esau and black people but Yakub tricked him and won and it became Christianity. This is why Islam was needed to restore the correct path. or so they believe.
>>522143179the biblical name for a "descendant of Esau" is "Edomite" which you have probably hear a lot without any explanation what the hell it means. Edomites and Israelites.
>>522138144Was Yakub, dare i say, the one zutted in the desert ?
>>522136632My creator
>>522144122Jacob wrestled with the angel Gabriel and won and he received the name Israel (wrestles with God). This story is in the Bible, not in the Quran so Muslims don't know it.The Zutt story actually resembles this story quite a bit, but Muslims also wouldn't know that.The common excuse given is that Muhammed won against the Jinn so they accepted his prophethood, like Jacob did with the angel. but Jinn are not Angels so it takes a weird turn.A lot of Islam is rooted in contradiction, jumbling reversal and purposeful ignorance because it's meant to be adaptable since it's a nomadic religion, like Judaism but more so.
>>522144430Muslims will know Gabriel very well, since it was Gabriel who delivered the Quran to Muhammed who couldn't read when he was alone in a cave. The Quran comes from Gabriel on behalf of Allah/God.In this way Yakub and Muhammed had similar events happen, but Yakub went wrong whereas Muhammed went right. But Christians still believe Muhammed was wrong and Yakub was right. and in mainstream Islam they believe Yakub was right (maybe?) and Muhammed was right. in NOI they believe Yakub was wrong and Muhammed right (maybe?)
>>522145652Gabriel also delivered the good news (Gospel) that Mary will give birth to the Messiah, Jesus. Whatever Yakub did was irrelevant with Jesus since he redeemed anyone who believed in him instead and restored everyone to the correct path. Muslims also believe this but without the Trinity concept and it required yet another prophet, Muhammed before it could truly end.NOI believes the Yakub line is still relevant because that's what Jews still believe. but in Islam it becomes irrelevant due to Muhammed's message but they still need to explain it to black people and jewish people because it's America.
>>522145970the main message of Abrahamic religions is that God is in control and you don't know what he's planning but all you can do is have faith. All these stories involve bad endings but the actual ending is good even if you can't see it yet.
