once you filter the non-stop projections and cope from /k/ and /uhg/, this is what you're left with:1. Ukraine is losing2. EU is losing3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materially4. EU is bankrupt, that's why it needs to seize Russian $300billion assets, to keep paying for the war in Ukraine5. EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.13. The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.
>>522486206Hot
>>522486206trvke
>>522486206vatnik projection, the post.
>>522486206>The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
>>522486206Tl;dr - gay russian nonsense
>>522486206Another total zigger shill delusionYes vania we believe your spam, putin friend of jews will liberate you, not replace with shitskins
>>522486206You should have just called this thread "COPE" instead anon. I'm reasonably sure the only reason we're dragging the war out is because its funny watching the ziggers get rekt continuously for years, however the amusement factor is getting tired and we need a new source of amusement. Realistically the EU doesnt give much of a fuck about Ukraine, its never been much of a trading partner, but it was funny watching Russia get shit on by its far smaller neighbour for years.
>>522486206>/k/ and /uhg/,literal paid shills>1. Ukraine is losingtrue, this was said from the very beginning>2. EU is losingtrue, we lost trillions in GDPhttps://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-the-trillion-dollar-cost-to-the-west/a-69106932>3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materiallyThe war was started by the US to stop EU-Russia economic relationship (Northstream), put Russia down for good, but ruling european oligarchies actually thought they could take over russia's resources and leadership>4. EU is bankrupt, that's why it needs to seize Russian $300billion assets, to keep paying for the war in UkraineTrue, the RFR is basically frozen at 50% and they stopped giving the money, redirecting it to Ukraine and war fundshttps://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Statistics_related_to_the_Recovery_and_Resilience_Facility&oldid=665397>5. EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the worldThey can't seize those assets because current and future investors would never invest again and they will pull out.>6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.We WERE a competitor to USA, but the US fucked us by creating a war between EU and Russia, forcing the EU to sanction everybody in the world + they destroyed Northstream. The EU can still be a competitor, but we're ruled by traitors and retards.After losing so much in this war, the US forced us to sign 15% tariffs, invest trillions into their economy and buy expensive shit american energy for hundreds of billions, while pulling US military out of EuropeThe EU needs a major reform, Macron's plan for Europe was good, except for the DEI-ESG shit. Autonomous, protectionist, SOVEREIGN Europe.
>>522486206>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.>9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.>10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.>11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.ukraine was dumb enough to be used as expendable cannon fodder by grudge holding jews in the uk in order to provoke a regime change in Russia.It failed completely and now ukraine will be thrown in the trash like a used condom.To think Putler wanted to cuck out in 2022, but Boris Johnson and rest of ZOG crew stepped in and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. (Comedy gold)Now Russia will achieve total victory, ukraine willl uniliterally and unconditionally surrenderthere isnt going to be a "ceasefire" so london can catch its breaththere isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on Russias borderthe ukraine will become an 'un-marked grave' to the liberal world orderforgotten and buried, like the hundreds of thousands of men it pointlessly sent to their deaththe fate of the ukraine is to be demilitarized, de-industrialized, and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda, inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country after Russia is done smashing it
Kek>EU is weak, has no financial, material or political capabilitiesbut at the same time>the war happened, still continues and only is possible because of the EU and their deliveriesHoly shit is this "analysis" incoherent
>>522487444knock knock
>>522486206Landsberg = jews their future is in comfortable Greek islandJews killed Lithuania as a nation, will be immigrants in that territory or fall in to hands of Russia as escape plan (?) USA is controlled by Jews that own dollar printer (Federal Reserve) and all assets (BlackRock) Europe get dollar emission from same jew rat printer converted to €. BRICS or global south start ignore USA military, say fuck to kikes and braking out from dependency of dollar printer (International Monetary System) live their own life by mutual agreements not by Jewish dictatorship. There is no one to talk with in EU, like in Lithuania that is in a jew rat total control (Jewish diaspora London). Hungary Urban still make own decisions and watch own country interest, maybe Slovenia. American wrestling is not real fight, it just a show on the stage. Exactly same is politicians, they all came from Harvard, Yale, Princton... get groomed by rituals , drunk, dressed like girls and fucked each other. Team of the bald risk takers with out any human dignity. EU are NPC- Non Player Characters dancing for same Jew rat money Jew rats and humanity struggle are very well illustrated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roITOz-5NKg
>>522486206go lose a limb or two ivan
>>522486206>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.Its because of the western oligarchies and their pet politicians, bureaucrats and secret services. They stretch from the US to Australia.They continue because of the "sunken cost" fallacy mentality they face right now. They made things worse than before>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.Wrong. It was, fundamentally, a war groomed by the US and a certain neocon tribe of special people.The roots begin earlier than 2022 or 2013.Ukraine was groomed, just like Georgia was groomed, just like Chechenya was groomed, just like Khazakhstan was groomed.>9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.Not true. Many countries from different continents want this war to go on, not just western ones.North Korea, China, BRICS ? >10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.No, they don't. >11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.No. The end of the EU is american oppression, occupation, betrayal and leeching.The EU, instead of being a competitor to USA and China, is now a colony of the US and risks becoming a colony of russia too, on america's hand.>12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.They were fooled into provoking a war with Russia and lost, they were used to further US interests, then the entire world started using them to further their own interests against the EU, against Russia, against USA, a big mess.>13. The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.YesBtw, the EU allowed for Czechslovakia to split, for the Yugoslav wars, Serbian wars, they allowed russian occupation in Moldova, they allowed turkish occupation in Cyprus, Catalonian separatists exiled in BrusselsThe EU has been flawed and traitorous for decades
>>522487540OP is not pro or against. You are
>>522486206lmao take the L retard. russia lost when they failed the kyiv decapitation strike, they should've called it then and there.
>>522486206retard, only butthurt belt wanted war. Poland, Ukraine and US had to work overtime on that NS2 to force whole EU into the war. Only with Trump, US shifted position, while EU is now too propogandized by CIA that this is some moral war.
>>522486206Yes, once you filter everything through russian cope, this is what you get.
>>522487444yes, you faggot retard>the eu has no industry, no resources and no manpowerand at the exact same time>"the war continues, because the EU is burning the very last of its fucking furniture to fuel the ukrainian fire. eventually, the last couch and chair will be burned, the last rug too"you absolute fucking shit eating retard
>>522487305Dont forget by 2028, other eurocucks will be directly involves in a war conflict themselves>sign tapping intensifiesAnd we are now entering into the era known as reaping what the sign tapping sowed- or rather what the institutions and media apparatus exposed have sown
>>522486206it didnt start cos of eu, but they sure got caught up in their own fartsmelling hype
>>522487814>>522487822>>522487827europe was killed dead as a doornail this very day>pic relatedand the eu clapped like seals as it happened
>>522487977>Dont forget by 2028, other eurocucks will be directly involves in a war conflict themselveseurope will never be at war. they literally have no one to send, no industry, no equipment, no nothingRussia could smash the entire continent flat from Kaliningrad, with a handful of Mig31-K strikes and submarine strikes.it would be over in half an hour for continental europe
Great post!Nothing better than a bunch of degenerate welfare people trying to cope abouth how global micro and macro economy works lol.1. Ukraine is losing>pretty much2. EU is losing>far from it3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materially>they can afford everything. money is never an issue4. EU is bankrupt, that's why it needs to seize Russian $300billion assets, to keep paying for the war in Ukraine>EU is not bankrupt because they cant go bankrupt. World biggest trading block dont go bankrupt.5. EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world>completely false6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.>world biggest trading block degenerate.7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.>degenerate mentality from a degenerate welfare boy8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.>again, degenerate answer. clueless.9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.>degenerate answer from a degenerate again.10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.>far from reasonable. but low IQ people think they are.11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.>Again, degenerate does not know how EU works.12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.>Again clueless degenerate welfare answer13. The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.>Welfare people of no importance, somewhat. The rest, no.
>>522487206>We WERE a competitor to USA The EU has always been a vassal to the Amerigolem and the yids gave them the go-ahead to sabotage Europe before they could get economically powerful enough to start getting ideas about independent thought.
>>522488068Anon, none of what you said equates to denying the psychopath sychophant retards from executing another banker war at your expense>germany wants conscription>france says get ready to sacrifice your lives>uk engaging in similar notiona and sacrifice if not direct involvement in ukraine>poland will do poilish things>finland will do fingolian things>japan poking the chynese now>venezuala popping off If its not another GWOT; then itll be a war on drugs and then conventional war abroad
>>522486206>Ukraine is losing>Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point.pidorussia advanced the whole 45 km (28mi) from Donetsk to Pokrovsk in 1375 days! pootin occupied Donetsk all the way back in 2014. The "great patriotic war" lasted 1418 days.
>>522486561>wwII started when japan bombed pearl harborbased retard
friendly reminder that we are ruled by psychopathsmost of us don't have a say or influence in the weird games the so-called leader class is playing with or against other nation states kwab
>>522486206The daily zigger cope lmao
>>522487987Europe since 1945 was always a political province of US, just not 100% directly controlled but maybe 80%. EU does some deal with Iran, US fucks EU up somehow, EU does a deal with Gaddafi, US fucks EU somehow. Same with NS2, Germany wanted to survive with russian gas, tried to disobbey US, entire economy got fucked.
>>522487814Listen Mohamed, past does not exist, situation change and truth is, as it is right now, we can only guess direction where it is going. So what is a best interest for ex Swedish nation current immigrant tax enclosure Sweden? Or rather what is the best for people who still identify as nation while being minority in their own country? There is nothing you can do you have no power and power is in united effort. Nation's are united by cucked to the Jews. It was jew rat decision to brought immigrants to rape your women destroy culture, order and peace.Europe suffer Jew rat infection.
>>522488138Explain to me in micro and macro economy what did the average norwegian win from the ukraine warHARD MODE ! don't mention energy exports or ukrainian women
>>522486206That's my house btw
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>>522486206The roots of this war go back to the 2007-2008 recession. Russia is fighting because it has no other models for governing the state and economy; they were exhausted in the 2010s (2017 - turning point). The European Union also reached this point, just a little later. Therefore, the war will continue until the old world is destroyed. And there will be no winners in this war.
>>522488138>EU is losing>far from itit's pretty much in it, in 2023 Borrel admitted EU lost close to $1 trillion in damages as result of the war. By 2025 the EU industry is close to non-existent>they can afford everything. money is never an issuethey can't afford it, because it's politically and economically retarded and suicidal to start WW3 to protect a country that was never a member of EU or NATO, and never will be>EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world>completely falsethis is literally the case, that's why Belgium refuses to release those assets for UkraineBelgium demands EU states who sign written guarantees, that they will personally compensate those frozen assets to Russia, if Ukraine loses the war.EU states refuse to sign these guarantees. Why?2 reasons:1. They don't think Ukraine will win2. They don't have extra 300billion lying around in their pockets to even afford that compensation
>>522488512>Belgium refuses to release those assets for Ukrainefor now, but that's mostly because of their inert bureaucracy, and they're paying the interest generated by those funds directly to Ukraine. So basically, pootin is subsidizing the Ukrainian war effort with the russian money.45 km in 1375 days, pidor. face it, your pootin is a retard and a failure!
>>522488639>The roots of this war go back to the 2007-2008 recession. Russia is fighting because it has no other models for governing the state and economygenuinely sounds to me like you read a headline from some blogger somewhere, and didn't spend any time actually trying to understand the topic.What models? Economy functions relatively same everywhere in the world, with slight adjustments to environmental needs.This war is entirely geopolitical and about who gets to project power in the coming century. EU doesn't want to be left behind, but it also has nothing to offer to the world.
>>522488471This is something anyone with an average IQ easily can google. But I'll do it just to make it easy for you.First of all, you dont know what micro or macro economy is without googling and even then its hard for you.Of course energy exports is relevant you degenerate. What you are saying is the same as "oh my life got better because I won $100k, but dont mention how my life got better because of those $100k"Income over here rise about $5k every year for the average norwegaian regardless of export of oil and gas. But oil and gas money gives higher benifits on every level. Standard of living here increase every single year.Housing gets more and more expensive to every year, yet, people buy more and more. Never an issue unless you are in that 2% lazy fuck welfare room who failed at everything and think you deserve a $800k condo.
>>522488639>And there will be no winners in this war.CHYNUHthey do nothing and winrussia is fighting for security reasons, not world ordersrussia could've been like norway or UAE if it wasn't so corrupt
>>522488796>Economy functions relatively same everywhere in the worldAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>522488771>for now, but that's mostly because of their inert bureaucracyno, it's literally because it's illegal to do that.They can't do it unless there are legal guarantees of compensation. And EU cannot afford to sign those guarantees.Without the guarantees - the assets release is tantamount to stealing a huge sum of money on an international scale - and this means EU's image on financial markets will tank.
>>522488209poland and finland are the only legally available options the eu has regarding access to draft meatthose positions will be closed within the first days of the conflict, when europe runs out of fucking everything and has zero ability to replace itthose vassal states can threaten to committ national suicide via "death by cop" all they want, it will change nothing about the result>japan v. China>eu v. Russiais like talking about fucking yapping chiuahuahs against rabid wolvesits idiotic and pure suicide on the vassals end
>>522488918genuinely a monkey response befitting a monkey
>>522486544Delusional map mate, it's ogre
>how dare the evil ruskies put their country next to our military bases and biolabs
>>522488799>ad hominems, wall of text, avoids the questionyou're not even part of the EU, yet you shill for iti asked you something simplehow is the ukraine war good for the average norwegian person? (loaded question, it isn't good for anybody, anywhere)you can't even micro or macro explain shit
>>522488851>the guaranteesrussia is under sanctions for starting an imperialist, revanchist war with the only goal - to keep pootin in power indefinitely. russia caused hundreds of billions of dollars in damage and that's why its assets were seized. The EU bureaucracy has to go through the lengthy legal process of confiscating the assets and disbursing them to the victim - Ukraine.
>>522488512>>522488675They can afford what they want to afford. Again, this is not how money works. EU is nothing but a trading block filled with rules and regulations. EU do not determine what a european business do beyond that. That is laws and rules regulated by european countries.EU states dont sign agreements based on EU for the simple reason it is against international law that EU want to push within their own ecosystem. This is an idea and it will be a loan most likely settled in The Bank for International Settlements.People have to understand that all these theories about going broke and bankrupt etc etc can be ONE entity among many. This is an idea people have that make it sound like money after a transaction disappear into thin air and that there are no money left. This is simply not how it works.
>You should have just called this thread "COPE" instead anon.>a bong
>>522489168>>522489200you're looking at a situation where:EU has an internal conflict over Russian assets, because EU lawyers and bankers think it's very risky for EU to use Russian assets unilaterally.So what do you think the easiest solution to this internal EU conflict would be, if EU was rich and wealthy and shit? Well, to not use Russian assets, and instead to use EU assets to fund Ukraine.But guess what? They can't. Because EU has no disposable money left to fund Ukraine. This is literally basic 2+2=4 logic, you inbred single-braincell cucks.I'll explain it so a 5 year old will understand:1. EU needs to continue funding Ukraine2. EU has no money left to fund Ukraine3. EU wants to use Russian money to fund Ukraine4. EU can't use Russian money without Russia's consent because that's stealing5. Stealing damages your financial image in the world6. They could use Russian money if they would sign guarantees that they can compensate that money to Russia in case Ukraine loses the war, and Russian lawyers come knocking7. They refuse to sign those guarantees, because they don't have 100% certainty that Ukraine would win, and because they don't have enough free cash to compensate that sum to Russia8. Belgium takes a simple position: no signature = no release of funds. Kthxbye
>>522488796Russia wanted to join NATO around 2001-2006 and be in association with the European Union from 1999-2009. Then all of this became impossible, but the entire economic system was built to be a raw materials appendage of the Western world. Politically, it was an oligarchic regime with an elite that favored parts of the West. When it became clear that this was not going to happen, the elite began frantically searching for other options. They settled on the GDR model, but this model, too, did not correspond to economic stability or the loyalty of the elite. Therefore, in 2017, they decided to build up their military potential and drift toward an imperial doctrine.
>>522489168Great post !When is the US going to be put under sanctions and have its assets seized to pay off the victims of illegal american wars and under illegal military occupation?The US has over 800 military bases outside its bordersThe victims are so many we could just list continents insteadSouth AmericaMiddle EastSouth-east AsiaOceania (coconut people nuked)Japan (nuked)ChinaEuropeEngland
>>522489158And I answered your question. But if you cant even understand this simple answer it just mean you are too fucking stupid to even cope with opening a bottle.I explained in what I wrote about macro and micro economy. And if you cant even understand this, its time for you to log off in your basement and wait for another round of social security.
>starting an imperialist, revanchist war>a muttseeth
>>522486206Replace EU with US, and I think it might be more accurate
>>522489413I forgot to mention Vietnam and Central Asia, where americans committed war crimes on millions of people
>>522489356>Then all of this became impossibleit never was possible, because Moscow is the largest capital in Europe.If Russia joins EU or NATO, then Moscow by definition becomes the capital of EU and NATO. I don't think Paris and Berlin, or Washington would be very happy about it.It's simple geopolitics. You should learn some.
>>522489325>use Russian money without Russia's consentretard, that's not how it works in the real world. russia's assets have been confiscated and disbursed to the plaintiffs numerous times, there only has to be a court order. The assets are in EU jurisdiction and will be disposed of according to EU laws. That's what civil law suits do, they assess the damages and impose compensation to the injured party regardless of the defendant's opinion on the matter.
>>522486206>how to out yourself as a russnigger in thirteen easy steps
>>522488438>whataboutismretard lmao
>>522489678Russia is not a citizen or subject of EU, you fucking retard. Plus, domestic law =/= international law.Russia and EU are equal parties, and EU has no authority or jurisdiction over Russia, same as Russia has no authority of jurisdiction over EU.EU taking Russian money, is no different from me taking your money.
>>522489413No one is stopping you from filing the petition on behalf of perceived victims anytime, in any court you think has the jurisdiction.
>>522489607Я знaю, чтo этo былo нeвoзмoжнo. Ho вcя poccийcкaя внeшняя пoлитикa дo 2008г былa выcтpoeнa чтoбы дocтичь этих цeлeй. Я хopoшo пoмню yлыбaющeгocя Пyтинa c экpaнoв TB, гoвopящeгo "B Eвpoпy вмecтe c Укpaинoй!"
>>522489325EU is not going to use Russian assets period. Its an idea.EU alone is neither going to give Ukraine money from their own pocket or European countries for that matter. The buildup of Ukraine for that matter is estimated to so many trillions that no country here or an institution is going to pay that because the country is done. They might do investment or hand out big loans via banks that deal with this but beyond that, no.And when it comes to funding, this funding is done by money that ends up in corporations all over the west in form of weapon production, energy, food, current rebuilding etc.Here in Norway we have "funded" Ukraine with around $8B so far (give or take) This money is security. So they dont get it in form of cash or anything like this. This is money that goes into arms made by either us or partners of us that make money off this. We have deals on every sector where money from the oil fund goes into this, and where we either have corporations within our own country that get this money (so the money is still in the country), or given to european or american businesses for what they can provide. So the money is still within the west, either here, Europe or The US.
>>522489607>>522489907I know it was impossible. But Russia's entire foreign policy up until 2008 was designed to achieve these goals. I vividly remember Putin smiling on TV, saying, "To Europe together with Ukraine!" (Sorry, missclick)
>>522489416you can't answer because you're not norwegian, just a shill ;-)real people have real life answers, not aggressive agenda shitposting>>522489607they wouldn't have become the capital of the EU simply because Brussels is the capital, despite its small size, population and economyThe EU couldn't/wouldn't absorb fucking Montenegro and Albania, yet we could absorb Russia? Russia as a EU state would've been just another vote among EU executive leaders and a diverse voting bloc in the european parliament, with its diverse share of cuckservative faggots, socialist DEI-ESG faggots, libertardian faggots, right wing morons, eco gay clubs and random independents
>>522490030>Russia as a EU state would've been just another vote among EU executive leadersthat's not how EU functionsThe guys with the bigger stick get to set the tune. This is literally documented in every academic literature about EU's internal policies. Even if your representatives disagree with EU's direction, they still have to agree or face ostracization and become "not eligible for handshakes". EU is pretty much just a political experiment, which ended up regressing into USSR 2.0And if Russia would join this USSR 2.0, Moscow would be the tune-setter.
>>522489793I'm talking about the jurisdiction where the assets are physically situated. russia can throw any fits it wants out in the media, but the assets are subject to the jurisdiction where russia willingly placed them before starting the retarded war. This is done all the time, a court that has jurisdiction can impose a judgement against the defendant and his assets to compensate the victim. russia can chose to appear in that court or just let it go. Many plaintiffs have been compensated in British courts in this way, for instance.
>>522490030Born and raised here. But like every typical welfare loser who have zero clue about anything, will give answers like this even tho its been explained in the most simple way.
>>522486645How much Ukrainian territory does Ukraine hold after near ten years?
>>522490183>The guys with the bigger stickby that measure, the russian "stick" would've been smaller than that of Italy, you moron.
Who cares? As long as Russians are dying its good
>>522490221yes yes, the local court of the local jurisdiction can take Russia's money, and it will be legal... locally, that is.But internationally it will be seen as stealing money. And the amount of countries willing to keep their assets in EU will be significantly reduced.It pretty much shows you don't understand international relations or international laws whatsoever.What is legal inside a jurisdication can stay legal inside a jurisdiction. Even if that inner jurisdiction decides it is legal to eat dogs, or burn people on a stake.But you fail to understand the fundamental principle of how states function on the international scale. There is no international government, no international police, no international court. So whatever your local court decides, means absolutely jack shit to a court in another jurisdiction.Hence, if we just do basic math reduction - whatever the fuck EU courts decide - has no legality internationally.
>>522486206I hope Churkas ass rape many Euro-poors in their own living rooms when Russia invades Europe after Ukraine.
>>522490347>by that measure, the russian "stick" would've been smaller than that of Italy, you moron.absolute autism
>>522486206>Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.Along with kikes and their kikery, this is the most important thingThese effete, superfluous little shits trying to be a big deal
>>522490454>no international court.This just shows how clueless you are about the whole issue. Go do some reading before you opine on a subject.International Court of Justice (ICJ)Function: Settles legal disputes submitted by states and provides advisory opinions on legal questions referred by authorized UN organs and agencies.Jurisdiction: Cases are submitted by states that have consented to the court's jurisdiction.Structure: Consists of 15 judges elected to nine-year terms by the UN General Assembly and Security Council.Location: The Hague, Netherlands. The following 193 States are currently Members of the United Nations (the dates on which those States which have made declarations recognizing as compulsory the jurisdiction of the Court are also listed): (Russian Federation - Original Member)https://www.icj-cij.org/states-entitled-to-appear
>>522490520retard, how do you measure "the stick" in an economic union if not by the economic output?
>>522491046>>522491212The international system of states functions based on a similar principle to blockchain. (never thought I'd use an analogy like this, but it fits).There are no "international courts" or "international legislators".The whole "international legal system" is based on mutual trust, and goodwill. There is absolute no single authority that can decide neither legality nor legitimacy on any subject, nor any war.Countries or alliances can do it locally, using their local courts and local lawyers. But on the internal (non-local) field, legality and legitimacy is decided through mutual cooperation and mutual agreement. Not by some higher authority or some court.For example, the UNGA (UN General Assembly) cannot adopt laws, it can only adopt "recommendations". Hence, why UNGA resolutions have no legal power of enforcement. It's more of a conversational platform.The only international body that has the power of enforcement is the UNSC (UN Security Council). Because if they decide to enforce something, they can simply bomb the shit out of the country that refuses to comply. But here's the deal: Russia is a permanent member of the UNSC.Yes, there's only 5 of them.Good luck confiscating something from one of the 5 states in the world that has the ability to enforce laws unilaterally.
>>522491046>International Court of Justice (ICJ)literally a meme
>>522487941More industrial basis than the US, du Lappen.
>>522486206we know: the EU is eliminated by this time in 2 years, split again into London/Brussels and the rest, no one cares about cocyx.No one can't control the 8 billion people and that causes the EU lies to break out within the EU. The EU fucked up when they let teh migrants in and their one salvation ins to close EU borders.
>>522486206>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EUfalse, it's a US led war
>>522491046>ICJIt’s impossible to have a real functioning court without an attached legislator and sovereign entity.This is why nobody takes ICJ seriously, as it falls out of the traditional legal framework of law enforcement. It’s like having a steering wheel but without the rest of the car. Basically a LARP court that has no power over major international players, because any form of legal enforcement directly comes FROM those international players
>>522491575>More industrial basis than the US, du Lappen.in your dreams lmao
>>522490335>the 10 years smo to stop ukraine from retaking its territorygrim>>522487206shut up subhuman gypsy, you are the niggers of europe
>>522491477>There are no "international courts" do you have some sort of reading comprehension disability? Jurisdiction: Cases are submitted by states that have consented to the court's jurisdiction. States which have made declarations recognizing as COMPULSORY the jurisdiction of the Court.the current russian "government" may ignore, disobey, "veto" the ruling but this will not last, as it it will inevitably cease to exist and the new russian government will have to comply.>Russia is a permanent member of the UNSC.and it should've been kicked out back in the 1990's. It probably will be after this war fiasco.>has the ability to enforce laws unilaterally.is it gonna invade Belgium to "get its assets back"? Like I said, the overseas assets are subject to sanctions and confiscation based on judgements of the local jurisdiction. Many such cases.
>>522488799>>522488138I'm blown away by how smugly retarded and wrong you are. You also type and type and type and magically have found a way, with all that effort to say nothing outside of buzzwords.You are broke you fucking moron. The whole world is broke but you especially in the eu.
>>522491859>a LARP court that has no powerFollowing the ICJ's decision on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, many states provided financial and military support to Ukraine, influenced by the court's ruling on the illegality of the invasion.well, that's something. It's all the legal excuse many governments in the world needed to supply aid to Ukraine.
>>522489416You didn't explain shit you giga nigger but mention a buzz word multiple times, and then somehow smugly act like you are anything other than a complete brainless moron too ego filled and scared to admit to yourself that your corrupt people made a bad move.
>>522486206>6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.It probably could be if they weren't dumbass bureaucrats
>>522486206>EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.The motive is clear why they want to keep the war going because they are on record with their deluded takes on it and it's become a sunk cost, many billions thrown into it, so they want to save face and it's "too big to fail" now. But, consider this, the very fact they want the war to continue and insist on dragging it on for years now, is actually something that's doing more damage to their reputations to the point where they actually will cause the thing you're talking about. Like if they're actually fine with this insanity dragging on into 2026 or beyond, doubling down on sanctions packages that blow back, etc while continuing to toss billions at corrupt officials, continuing to import infinity browns, I think it may simply reach a breaking point eventually. But I don't think we're quite there yet, I think if they actually were competent they could actually keep the EU gravy train going for another 5-10 years. At this point, accelerate. Let them burn whats left of their reputations to the point where even the average normie hates them. Then if they're being Luigi'd in the streets people will just shrug and say they had it coming.
>>522492075>Macron's sovereign Europe plan is bad>you're the niggers of EuropeYeah, I am european, not a shitskin transplant on welfare like youUnder his plan, your shithole countries would go back to being colonies and raped like they should've beenWe wouldn't let Ukraine and Georgia become russian assets, why should n. africa be any different?
>>5224862063 years of bleeding our biggest danger dry from the comfort of my own couch at the cost of some old stockpiles>EU is losing>The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.man, i feel so very injured, if this 3 day special military operation goes on for another 3 years, then i might be even be inconvenienced a little
>>522492953>BUT WHAT ABOUTnigger
>>522492982>at the cost of some old stockpilesit was at the cost of the totality of natos state-of-the-art weapons, and it destroyed any hope of security europe had for a centuryyou smug /k/ nigger bot
>EUDelete this and replace with "London" in your post. And you would increase the accuracy.No doubt London/Paris will be butthurt if they can't Shrink Asia / Expand EU.
>>522492982>man, i feel so very injured, if this 3 day special military operation goes on for another 3 years, then i might be even be inconvenienced a littlelmao, youre gunna be more than "a little injured" you smug arrogant /k/ pussycant fucking wait for the great "european finding-out" about to erupt
>>522493289oh nooo, im so scared, were all out of weapons and russniggeria can invade us and take over in 3 days any day now, oh nooo
>>522492982>then i might be even be inconvenienced a littleOh that's good to know that you haven't been inconvenienced by the war. You're bragging about your life in Finland while your countrymen have to deal with it. How very patriotic of you.And of course you want your countrymen to keep dying because you don't want to go back to Ukraine. Coward.
>>522493388in 2 more weeks? can you tell me when this great finding out will come so i can prepare?
>>522493433Helsinki is within range of missiles though.Are you actually prepared?
>>522493523helsinki is a typical homo metropolis, it could do with a little nuking, i fortunately do not live there
>>522493433>oh nooo, im so scared, were all out of weapons and Russniggeria can invade us and take over in 3 days any day now, oh nooothe entire world would collectively shrug as you get absolutely steamrolled too, it would be hilarious
>>522493583After that city is laid to ruins, what will happen to your country?
>>522493500>in 2 more weeks? can you tell me when this great finding out will come so i can prepare?when the last ukrainian male dies, thats whenso I guess you better pray they hold out..because guess who's next to (((defend democracy))) in ukraine..!!?!??CMON GUESS!!
>>522493626it will be a better place, and russia will still be a post-communist apathetic shithole
>>522493692>it will be a better placeUnorganised, import dies, export dies, how will you maintain/repair your power plants?
>>522493768vassal flags are in global world-wide psychosis at the momentevery one of them is frothing at the mouth for a chance at national-scale suicide "death-by-cop">pic relatedshe even looks like a US ww2 caricature-cartoon 'zipper-head'
>>522493899Hehe, the huge problem in Scandinavia is the have been groomed/micromanaged to be the"backrow" class in classic RPG game, they were micromanaged for the past 40 year to be the intellectual class in the backrow, far away from the frontlines in Iraq / west-asia.But now they suddenly forced to be front-line.Putting all your Backrow units into your front line will always yield lulsy results. LMaO
>>522494225>Hehe, the huge problem in Scandinavia is the have been groomed/micromanaged to be the>"backrow" class in classic RPG game, they were micromanaged for the past 40 year to be the intellectual class in the backrow, far away from the frontlines in Iraq / west-asia.>But now they suddenly forced to be front-line.>Putting all your Backrow units into your front line will always yield lulsy results. LMaOthe best and most hilarious part of these absolute shit-for-brains vassal states like finland/poland are like an all-you-can-eat buffet of draftable meat with iron clad conscription laws on the books london/nato can game untill the very last one of them dies clapping like a seal cheerleading for nato against Russiacant wait for them to get everything they ever asked for and more picking a fight with Russia
>>522494736>2 more weeks until superpower russian rolls the iron curtain over europelive in reality faggot, europe is over twice the population of russia, and like 10 times the gdp, the cold war era is long gone and russia is not the ussr anymore, and has continued to stagnate as a corrupt shithole besides, that if anything has become painfully clear because of this war
>>522486206>3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materiallyI think NATO could have a war with Russia joining Ukraine and win the conflict, it would cost them financially but I am not sure NATO can afford it polticialy as the American people are still too anti-war and isolationist given the failure in iraq/afghanistan and current hatred the American people have against the system. >7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.I would say it is the states who are continuing this conlfict with military and financial aid>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.Lol, nope it was the American Jew Anne Applebaum and the American empire, you're giving Europe way to much agency. We are a union of vassal states under the US empire.>9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.The American empire wants it to continue, the only thing that is giving them pause is the conflict in Israel and having to fight a two front war.>12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.They are fighting for American interests
>>522494736The guy you're arguing with isn't Finnish, he's a Ukrainian who ran away: >>522493494
>>522486544>>522486645So you just posted a picture of Russia winning
>>522494982>and like 10 times the gdpInsurrance company receive a lot of GPD from car owners, but this will not help in a war.>twice the population90% of you have been groomed to become nerds at Nokia.This is not helpful for a frontline nation.
>>522494982twice the population, and absolutely zero-will to fight some insane gore-soaked FPV war vs Russia (thats no.1)and>"Muh GDP"means jack nigger-shit nothingeurope already tried the whole >"throw pallets of printed cash at Russian fortifications"and it failed so hard it demilitarized the continent
>>522486645This vatnigger made the same thread yesterday.More refineries will burn and it's far from assured that trump will manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because everyone in Europe hates this child raping subhuman by now and actual Americans (so not twitter indians, pakis and other such scum) are also not very happy with how great that pedophile made america.If anything this might finally be the breaking point for Europe to take decisive actions and e.g. seize the russian criminal oligarch money parked in Europe as the kremlin regime has seized our legal assets in russia.>>522488983He is right to mock the delusion that the russian government-mobster economy is in any way comparable.Even non-africa countries are often incomparable, for example the Japanese economy is incomparable in structure to that of Spain or that of America - even if they were the same size.That counts doubly so for russia vs any non shithole-country.You delusional vatnigger monkey.
>>522493494Lmao what a toxic ally, imagine trying to make the general somewhat cozy and this toxic faggot comes in. Now we know why the other general is called chug.
>>522491881>news media is credible only when it confirms my biasesmonkeyhttps://www.dw.com/de/wie-migranten-%C3%BCber-russland-nach-finnland-gelangen/a-67524455
>>522495303>>522493692>>522493619>>522493500lmao Trump is going literally force zelensky to sign ukrainian surrender papers on live tv, its goin to be fucking absolute ratings GOLDim sure Z will do something absurd and make it a 'forever-moment' tier meme that gets thumped for eternity
>>522495344>its Russia sending migrants into finland!!AAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>522486206I disagree with many claims but not with the conclusion sir.
>>522495508>let me gloatnote: even jewtin himself that you seem to admire said Ukraine can't legally cede land>>522495577>let me deflectYes, this is what the kremlin regime does and it's another of the reasons why I have nothing but hate for the kremlin regime and these libshits like in your pic that refuse to take effective action against these rats and maggots.Kamala was and is totally pathetic, just another establishment democrat and a particularly revealing set of interviews after multiple months of abandoning "her" constituents after an embarrassing defeat vs a retarded, senile pedophile fascist. You're a worthless smarmy subhuman and probably not even from America, jeetnigger.
Ukraine is irrelvantGo back to /k/
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>>522491881sorta pathetic ngl
>>522496088Which is why the zigger asserting that makes an entire thread about both Ukraine and /k/ on /pol/ lmaoTell us more about how much you don't care, you faggot.
>>522496397He's already dead.
>>522486561Didn't the tv tell you the war in Ukraine started like 11 years ago?
>>522488138^Eurofags are totally deluded.Good thing many of the retarded ones will be dead by 2030.
>>522486206>EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.how? EU will gobble what's left of the Ukraine.the rest is pretty much what's happening
>>522488138This is a wonderful approximation of a reddit post. Smug, passive-aggressive, confident in its assertions, but incredibly ignorant. It's the chef's kiss of effeminate midwittery
>>522486206FACTS 1. You are russian diasporanigger2. You are an hypocritical bitch whining about must decadent west yet refuse to go back3. As a russian, you lack empathy and self reflexion abilities, leading you to subhuman talking points such as >7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
>>522486206>Ukraine is losingRussia is also losing.
>>522486206T US niggers coopingMassiv kek.The US has resource intrests in ukraine it wont see returnd if they compleatly fall to russia. Not the EU nigglet.Try harder.
>>522486206Yes, all that and you still won't going fucking back?
>>522486206Fucking retarded, slavniggers are such fucking cancer
>>522497391Oh, hi, France.
>>522486206Russia is no big deal.but Usa is always ruled by commies that they make russios win.
Day 1374 of Special Dedovshchina Operation to denazify the Ukraine, pidors are mad not even an entire administration of russian stooges at the White House can make them win at Dombas and they keep shitting all over the place whenever they go, stay as butthurt as your mobik comrade here xd
>>522486206just 4 more years and russia will win
>>522487305The Russian terms in 2022 was the exact same terms they are offering now that Ukraine said no to.It's a Russian myth that Ukraine was "About to agree to peace in 2022"Ukraine even back then was "We'll have a ceasefire but we're not agreeing to all this bullshit"And Russia was "Yes they will""No we won't""Yes you will""No we won't"Then Bucha happened and Ukraine just stopped talking to Russia completelyDoesn't change the fact that Ukraine and Russia were no closer to peace in 2022 than they are now.tl;dr Boris Johnson did jack shit, Ukraine wasn't going to surrender to Russia in 2022.
>>522488471Dead Subhuman Russians is a win for all of Europe, if the entire Russian race was genocided it would end centuries of Ziggers attempting to destroy Europe
>>522486561The War officially started when Ukraine hooligans chased 100+ Russians into a building and lit on fire in Odessa 2014 uprising period, that's when Russia triggered War clauses
>>522500677Fake news, The EVIL and DEVIOUS Anglo-Saxons used their brains and TRICKED and BAMBOOZELED the honest and trusting naive russians with their LIES!Russia and Ukraine were seconds away from peace if it wasnt for the ANGLO-SAXONS
>>522487749> just like Khazakhstan was groomed.The process is in the active phase You will hear about us before 2030.
>>522500991wtf are you talking about.russain opposition libs I know are afraid of going to kazakhstan because they think FSB/GRU can freely kidnap them there
>>522500864Is Europe going to invade Russia or something?
>>522501778ofc they will not attack a nuclear statewhen russia say they were afraid NATO was going to attack them they were lying.
>>522501445dear friend, pay attention to Paris and Macron, not to the Russian oppositionistsIn the mid-10s, the Russian opposition had a platform in Russia that "democratic" states could not afford. And it was a real opposition. Everything has changed you 'collective west' have fucked up your only real chance to overthrow power in Russia through the opposition The reason? your collective incompetence. In other words, you are only capable of chasing sandniggersThere is no russian opposition now anymore. Anyone who claims other is a "budget planner".About KazakhstanWe are being trained to "replace" Ukraine by creating problems near the Russian border. Soon.
>>522501837So nothing will happen and Russia will winGot it thanks
>>522486206>The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.It's because Trump is on Putin's payroll.
>>522487206But..but..but...butthurt belt
>>522486206>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.False, it's entirely down to the mutts and their kike ruling class.It was the mutts that started this conflict in 2014.Why do you absolve them from responsibilities.
>>522486645> Russia holds on to it's gainsOkay...?
For anyone wondering what blew up in Russia, it was AD systems guarding their vital infrastructure. Ukraine has made them a priority target. S400 Buks and early warning RADAR were struck last night. It has gotten so bad, Russia attempted to buy an S400 system back from Turkey. Turkey declined. Hilarious.
America lost
>>522486206Everyone seems to forget that "Russian assets" is just EU obligations to Russia for purchased things (such as gas).There is no money, there never was. It's just debt.Even if EU wanted to give "this money", they would be giving their own money. It's just empty promises by retard politicians.
>>522486206Correction: the US started the war, but they were reasonable enough to know when to quit while ahead, have an exit strategy and be able to leave with gains. The EU was just the dumb, overeager patsy who were promised big deals in ukraine and got left with only the losses and the bills to foot.I don't particularly give a shit abut the EU and hope it gets mortally wounded by overcommitting into this conflict. We know that Russia is not stopping now that they are retooled into warmode, mentally and physically prepared for a long struggle until ukraine is subdued in its entirety. I just hope Hungary and its potential European allies will be in a good enough position to leave the EU and gain territorial gains from ukraine by the end of it.
>>522503465no one was wondering anything about Russia you dumb fucking /k/ niggereveryone is dabbing on ukriane, who is surrendering to Russia according to Trumps guidelines he set for them
>>522503929>I don't particularly give a shit abut the EU and hope it gets mortally wounded by overcommitting into this conflict.thats what happened and its fucking hilarious, and there is no undoing it
>>522504029You know what is the funniest shit? Orbán tried its hardest during his 2010-14 term to make bringing an Army of the EU into existence, offering plans on interoperability studies, mutual procurement projects, long term defense industry developments with continuous, yearly orders into the 2030s to help them build up capacity without overt risk, infrastructure projects, joint training, new bases in east europe, etc and got laughed out of the room. Had they implemented atleast parts of it, the EU would have had a competitive defense industry by 2022 The funniest shit is, that he went and did the whole thing alone anyway, retooling Hungarian industry completely, buying entire defense contractors outright, building over a dozen new factories, even managing to convince the germs to move their entire shell production and IFV production over here over costs and likely the same will happen to the new Panther tanks. To me it looks completely fucking insane to produce all your critical war material abroad, but that's not even on the list of ten most insane things germoids did lately so whatever. Good luck to them with their looming war with Russia.
>>522503988>nobodyEvery time something big in Russia explodes, troll farms like the one you are employed by are turned to 11. Your desperation is amusing, but predictable.>surrenderingThey are told you to fuck off. They aren't surrendering...
>>522486206Whoa whoa pallie, you better cool it with the anti-vibe shift talk now. Everyone believes that Biden and Kamala were the best presidents ever since they released the Epstein files that had all the dirt on Trump, Ukraine is winning against Russia and have been ever since the pivotal winter offensive, Europe is flourishing like never before- having a fiscal, cultural, and spiritual revival the likes the world has not seen probably ever.Anything else is clearly propaganda and should be disregarded.Or something like that.
>>522503988in 2 more weeks?
>>522502074I know current EU elites are incompetent and without balls thank you. They cannot even deal with whoreban.But it does not change the fact that opposition still exist, why would Lukachenko still try to kidnap them, namely in vietnam for example ?
>>522486206Dont care, stay in your containtment threads uhg and chug
>>522503988Call them, /k/ike!That's the unofficial ZOG board name.
>>522486206.14 RU can't fully subjugate a band of retarded hohols with cold war hand me downs
>>522507050>humiliate zigger subhumans for four years straight>right to their third world faces>zigger retaliation ...>l-l-lets call them n-n-na-ames>take that!lol
>>522486544Ok cypsy copper thief
>>522486645Take the niggers in
>>522487444Hans you will be living in the streets while jamal fucks your wife and daughter
>>522487444
>>522486206>t.
>>522486206There's are like 3 true things on that list related to the EU using Ukraine as a buffer and the rest is zigger retardation. The EU and China are tied for the 2nd biggest market in the world. Militarily, the European part of NATO would absolutely demolish Russia in a war. That's why they only attack non-NATO countries.
>>522495319Hohols are so ungrateful.>We send them bucks galore>Jewlinsky frowns and demands moar shekels
>>522510572Not a single thing is true in your post.
More giantess shit
>>522486787Delicious cope, ahmed
>>522504775>They are told you to fuck off. They aren't surrendering...yes they absolutely fucking are>>522505638monday>>522507050>>522508510ukraine lost and its fucking over for real
>>522486561oh good, you fell for the propaganda.if you read a paper which said the sky was on fire, would you believe it?
>>522487460the millennial will be too old to rebel and also outnumbered by healthy fighting age male invaders, when they will depend on these welfare coffers and truly realize how deep the betrayal has been.They finance their welfare, but are now also too broke to deport them.Grim times ahead.TND.TBD.TMD.TKD.
>>522486206>if you filter two islands of white people on this god forsaken site you're left with complete nonsense.Checks out.
>>522486206>13. The longer the war continues, the more injured Ukrainian citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.