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once you filter the non-stop projections and cope from /k/ and /uhg/, this is what you're left with:

1. Ukraine is losing
2. EU is losing
3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materially
4. EU is bankrupt, that's why it needs to seize Russian $300billion assets, to keep paying for the war in Ukraine
5. EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world
6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.
7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.
10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.
11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.
12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.
13. The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.
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>>522486206
Hot
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>>522486206
trvke
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>>522486206
vatnik projection, the post.
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>>522486206
>The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
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>>522486206
Tl;dr - gay russian nonsense
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>>522486206
Another total zigger shill delusion
Yes vania we believe your spam, putin friend of jews will liberate you, not replace with shitskins
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>>522486206
You should have just called this thread "COPE" instead anon.
I'm reasonably sure the only reason we're dragging the war out is because its funny watching the ziggers get rekt continuously for years, however the amusement factor is getting tired and we need a new source of amusement. Realistically the EU doesnt give much of a fuck about Ukraine, its never been much of a trading partner, but it was funny watching Russia get shit on by its far smaller neighbour for years.
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>>522486206
>/k/ and /uhg/,
literal paid shills
>1. Ukraine is losing
true, this was said from the very beginning
>2. EU is losing
true, we lost trillions in GDP
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-the-trillion-dollar-cost-to-the-west/a-69106932
>3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materially
The war was started by the US to stop EU-Russia economic relationship (Northstream), put Russia down for good, but ruling european oligarchies actually thought they could take over russia's resources and leadership
>4. EU is bankrupt, that's why it needs to seize Russian $300billion assets, to keep paying for the war in Ukraine
True, the RFR is basically frozen at 50% and they stopped giving the money, redirecting it to Ukraine and war funds
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Statistics_related_to_the_Recovery_and_Resilience_Facility&oldid=665397
>5. EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world
They can't seize those assets because current and future investors would never invest again and they will pull out.
>6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.
We WERE a competitor to USA, but the US fucked us by creating a war between EU and Russia, forcing the EU to sanction everybody in the world + they destroyed Northstream. The EU can still be a competitor, but we're ruled by traitors and retards.
After losing so much in this war, the US forced us to sign 15% tariffs, invest trillions into their economy and buy expensive shit american energy for hundreds of billions, while pulling US military out of Europe
The EU needs a major reform, Macron's plan for Europe was good, except for the DEI-ESG shit. Autonomous, protectionist, SOVEREIGN Europe.
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>>522486206
>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
>9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.
>10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.
>11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.


ukraine was dumb enough to be used as expendable cannon fodder by grudge holding jews in the uk in order to provoke a regime change in Russia.
It failed completely and now ukraine will be thrown in the trash like a used condom.
To think Putler wanted to cuck out in 2022,
but Boris Johnson and rest of ZOG crew stepped in and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
(Comedy gold)
Now Russia will achieve total victory, ukraine willl uniliterally and unconditionally surrender
there isnt going to be a "ceasefire" so london can catch its breath
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on Russias border

the ukraine will become an 'un-marked grave' to the liberal world order
forgotten and buried, like the hundreds of thousands of men it pointlessly sent to their death

the fate of the ukraine is to be demilitarized, de-industrialized,
and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda,
inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country
after Russia is done smashing it
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Kek

>EU is weak, has no financial, material or political capabilities
but at the same time
>the war happened, still continues and only is possible because of the EU and their deliveries

Holy shit is this "analysis" incoherent
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>>522487444
knock knock
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>>522486206
Landsberg = jews their future is in comfortable Greek island

Jews killed Lithuania as a nation, will be immigrants in that territory or fall in to hands of Russia as escape plan (?)

USA is controlled by Jews that own dollar printer (Federal Reserve) and all assets (BlackRock)
Europe get dollar emission from same jew rat printer converted to €.

BRICS or global south start ignore USA military, say fuck to kikes and braking out from dependency of dollar printer (International Monetary System) live their own life by mutual agreements not by Jewish dictatorship.

There is no one to talk with in EU, like in Lithuania that is in a jew rat total control (Jewish diaspora London). Hungary Urban still make own decisions and watch own country interest, maybe Slovenia.

American wrestling is not real fight, it just a show on the stage. Exactly same is politicians, they all came from Harvard, Yale, Princton... get groomed by rituals , drunk, dressed like girls and fucked each other. Team of the bald risk takers with out any human dignity.

EU are NPC- Non Player Characters dancing for same Jew rat money

Jew rats and humanity struggle are very well illustrated here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roITOz-5NKg
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>>522486206
go lose a limb or two ivan
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>>522486206
>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
Its because of the western oligarchies and their pet politicians, bureaucrats and secret services. They stretch from the US to Australia.
They continue because of the "sunken cost" fallacy mentality they face right now. They made things worse than before
>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
Wrong. It was, fundamentally, a war groomed by the US and a certain neocon tribe of special people.
The roots begin earlier than 2022 or 2013.
Ukraine was groomed, just like Georgia was groomed, just like Chechenya was groomed, just like Khazakhstan was groomed.
>9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.
Not true. Many countries from different continents want this war to go on, not just western ones.
North Korea, China, BRICS ?
>10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.
No, they don't.
>11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.
No. The end of the EU is american oppression, occupation, betrayal and leeching.
The EU, instead of being a competitor to USA and China, is now a colony of the US and risks becoming a colony of russia too, on america's hand.
>12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.
They were fooled into provoking a war with Russia and lost, they were used to further US interests, then the entire world started using them to further their own interests against the EU, against Russia, against USA, a big mess.
>13. The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.
Yes

Btw, the EU allowed for Czechslovakia to split, for the Yugoslav wars, Serbian wars, they allowed russian occupation in Moldova, they allowed turkish occupation in Cyprus, Catalonian separatists exiled in Brussels
The EU has been flawed and traitorous for decades
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>>522487540
OP is not pro or against. You are
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>>522486206
lmao take the L retard. russia lost when they failed the kyiv decapitation strike, they should've called it then and there.
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>>522486206
retard, only butthurt belt wanted war. Poland, Ukraine and US had to work overtime on that NS2 to force whole EU into the war. Only with Trump, US shifted position, while EU is now too propogandized by CIA that this is some moral war.
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>>522486206
Yes, once you filter everything through russian cope, this is what you get.
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>>522487444
yes, you faggot retard
>the eu has no industry, no resources and no manpower
and at the exact same time
>"the war continues, because the EU is burning the very last of its fucking furniture to fuel the ukrainian fire. eventually, the last couch and chair will be burned, the last rug too"

you absolute fucking shit eating retard
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>>522487305
Dont forget by 2028, other eurocucks will be directly involves in a war conflict themselves
>sign tapping intensifies
And we are now entering into the era known as reaping what the sign tapping sowed- or rather what the institutions and media apparatus exposed have sown
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>>522486206
it didnt start cos of eu, but they sure got caught up in their own fartsmelling hype
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>>522487822
>>522487827
europe was killed dead as a doornail this very day
>pic related
and the eu clapped like seals as it happened
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>Dont forget by 2028, other eurocucks will be directly involves in a war conflict themselves

europe will never be at war. they literally have no one to send, no industry, no equipment, no nothing
Russia could smash the entire continent flat from Kaliningrad, with a handful of Mig31-K strikes and submarine strikes.
it would be over in half an hour for continental europe
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Great post!

Nothing better than a bunch of degenerate welfare people trying to cope abouth how global micro and macro economy works lol.

1. Ukraine is losing
>pretty much
2. EU is losing
>far from it
3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materially
>they can afford everything. money is never an issue
4. EU is bankrupt, that's why it needs to seize Russian $300billion assets, to keep paying for the war in Ukraine
>EU is not bankrupt because they cant go bankrupt. World biggest trading block dont go bankrupt.
5. EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world
>completely false
6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.
>world biggest trading block degenerate.
7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
>degenerate mentality from a degenerate welfare boy
8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
>again, degenerate answer. clueless.
9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.
>degenerate answer from a degenerate again.
10. USA, Russia, China want the war to end, on reasonable terms.
>far from reasonable. but low IQ people think they are.
11. EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.
>Again, degenerate does not know how EU works.
12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.
>Again clueless degenerate welfare answer
13. The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.
>Welfare people of no importance, somewhat. The rest, no.
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>>522487206
>We WERE a competitor to USA
The EU has always been a vassal to the Amerigolem and the yids gave them the go-ahead to sabotage Europe before they could get economically powerful enough to start getting ideas about independent thought.
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>>522488068
Anon, none of what you said equates to denying the psychopath sychophant retards from executing another banker war at your expense
>germany wants conscription
>france says get ready to sacrifice your lives
>uk engaging in similar notiona and sacrifice if not direct involvement in ukraine
>poland will do poilish things
>finland will do fingolian things
>japan poking the chynese now
>venezuala popping off
If its not another GWOT; then itll be a war on drugs and then conventional war abroad
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>>522486206
>Ukraine is losing
>Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point.

pidorussia advanced the whole 45 km (28mi) from Donetsk to Pokrovsk in 1375 days! pootin occupied Donetsk all the way back in 2014. The "great patriotic war" lasted 1418 days.
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>>522486561
>wwII started when japan bombed pearl harbor
based retard
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friendly reminder that we are ruled by psychopaths
most of us don't have a say or influence in the weird games the so-called leader class is playing with or against other nation states

kwab
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>>522486206
The daily zigger cope lmao
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>>522487987
Europe since 1945 was always a political province of US, just not 100% directly controlled but maybe 80%. EU does some deal with Iran, US fucks EU up somehow, EU does a deal with Gaddafi, US fucks EU somehow. Same with NS2, Germany wanted to survive with russian gas, tried to disobbey US, entire economy got fucked.
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>>522487814
Listen Mohamed, past does not exist, situation change and truth is, as it is right now, we can only guess direction where it is going.

So what is a best interest for ex Swedish nation current immigrant tax enclosure Sweden?

Or rather what is the best for people who still identify as nation while being minority in their own country? There is nothing you can do you have no power and power is in united effort. Nation's are united by cucked to the Jews. It was jew rat decision to brought immigrants to rape your women destroy culture, order and peace.

Europe suffer Jew rat infection.
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>>522488138
Explain to me in micro and macro economy what did the average norwegian win from the ukraine war
HARD MODE ! don't mention energy exports or ukrainian women
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>>522486206
That's my house btw
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>>522486206
The roots of this war go back to the 2007-2008 recession. Russia is fighting because it has no other models for governing the state and economy; they were exhausted in the 2010s (2017 - turning point). The European Union also reached this point, just a little later. Therefore, the war will continue until the old world is destroyed. And there will be no winners in this war.
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>>522488138
>EU is losing
>far from it
it's pretty much in it, in 2023 Borrel admitted EU lost close to $1 trillion in damages as result of the war. By 2025 the EU industry is close to non-existent
>they can afford everything. money is never an issue
they can't afford it, because it's politically and economically retarded and suicidal to start WW3 to protect a country that was never a member of EU or NATO, and never will be
>EU can't seize those assets, because that would destroy EU's credit rating around the world
>completely false
this is literally the case, that's why Belgium refuses to release those assets for Ukraine

Belgium demands EU states who sign written guarantees, that they will personally compensate those frozen assets to Russia, if Ukraine loses the war.
EU states refuse to sign these guarantees. Why?

2 reasons:
1. They don't think Ukraine will win
2. They don't have extra 300billion lying around in their pockets to even afford that compensation
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>>522488512
>Belgium refuses to release those assets for Ukraine
for now, but that's mostly because of their inert bureaucracy, and they're paying the interest generated by those funds directly to Ukraine. So basically, pootin is subsidizing the Ukrainian war effort with the russian money.

45 km in 1375 days, pidor. face it, your pootin is a retard and a failure!
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>>522488639
>The roots of this war go back to the 2007-2008 recession. Russia is fighting because it has no other models for governing the state and economy
genuinely sounds to me like you read a headline from some blogger somewhere, and didn't spend any time actually trying to understand the topic.
What models? Economy functions relatively same everywhere in the world, with slight adjustments to environmental needs.

This war is entirely geopolitical and about who gets to project power in the coming century. EU doesn't want to be left behind, but it also has nothing to offer to the world.
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>>522488471
This is something anyone with an average IQ easily can google. But I'll do it just to make it easy for you.
First of all, you dont know what micro or macro economy is without googling and even then its hard for you.

Of course energy exports is relevant you degenerate. What you are saying is the same as "oh my life got better because I won $100k, but dont mention how my life got better because of those $100k"
Income over here rise about $5k every year for the average norwegaian regardless of export of oil and gas. But oil and gas money gives higher benifits on every level. Standard of living here increase every single year.
Housing gets more and more expensive to every year, yet, people buy more and more. Never an issue unless you are in that 2% lazy fuck welfare room who failed at everything and think you deserve a $800k condo.
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>>522488639
>And there will be no winners in this war.
CHYNUH
they do nothing and win
russia is fighting for security reasons, not world orders
russia could've been like norway or UAE if it wasn't so corrupt
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>>522488796
>Economy functions relatively same everywhere in the world
AHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>522488771
>for now, but that's mostly because of their inert bureaucracy
no, it's literally because it's illegal to do that.
They can't do it unless there are legal guarantees of compensation. And EU cannot afford to sign those guarantees.
Without the guarantees - the assets release is tantamount to stealing a huge sum of money on an international scale - and this means EU's image on financial markets will tank.
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>>522488209
poland and finland are the only legally available options the eu has regarding access to draft meat

those positions will be closed within the first days of the conflict, when europe runs out of fucking everything and has zero ability to replace it

those vassal states can threaten to committ national suicide via "death by cop" all they want, it will change nothing about the result

>japan v. China
>eu v. Russia
is like talking about fucking yapping chiuahuahs against rabid wolves
its idiotic and pure suicide on the vassals end
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>>522488918
genuinely a monkey response befitting a monkey
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>>522486544
Delusional map mate, it's ogre
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>how dare the evil ruskies put their country next to our military bases and biolabs
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>>522488799
>ad hominems, wall of text, avoids the question
you're not even part of the EU, yet you shill for it
i asked you something simple
how is the ukraine war good for the average norwegian person? (loaded question, it isn't good for anybody, anywhere)
you can't even micro or macro explain shit
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>>522488851
>the guarantees
russia is under sanctions for starting an imperialist, revanchist war with the only goal - to keep pootin in power indefinitely. russia caused hundreds of billions of dollars in damage and that's why its assets were seized. The EU bureaucracy has to go through the lengthy legal process of confiscating the assets and disbursing them to the victim - Ukraine.
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>>522488512
>>522488675
They can afford what they want to afford. Again, this is not how money works. EU is nothing but a trading block filled with rules and regulations. EU do not determine what a european business do beyond that. That is laws and rules regulated by european countries.

EU states dont sign agreements based on EU for the simple reason it is against international law that EU want to push within their own ecosystem. This is an idea and it will be a loan most likely settled in The Bank for International Settlements.

People have to understand that all these theories about going broke and bankrupt etc etc can be ONE entity among many. This is an idea people have that make it sound like money after a transaction disappear into thin air and that there are no money left. This is simply not how it works.
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>You should have just called this thread "COPE" instead anon.
>a bong
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>>522489200
you're looking at a situation where:
EU has an internal conflict over Russian assets, because EU lawyers and bankers think it's very risky for EU to use Russian assets unilaterally.
So what do you think the easiest solution to this internal EU conflict would be, if EU was rich and wealthy and shit? Well, to not use Russian assets, and instead to use EU assets to fund Ukraine.

But guess what? They can't. Because EU has no disposable money left to fund Ukraine. This is literally basic 2+2=4 logic, you inbred single-braincell cucks.

I'll explain it so a 5 year old will understand:
1. EU needs to continue funding Ukraine
2. EU has no money left to fund Ukraine
3. EU wants to use Russian money to fund Ukraine
4. EU can't use Russian money without Russia's consent because that's stealing
5. Stealing damages your financial image in the world
6. They could use Russian money if they would sign guarantees that they can compensate that money to Russia in case Ukraine loses the war, and Russian lawyers come knocking
7. They refuse to sign those guarantees, because they don't have 100% certainty that Ukraine would win, and because they don't have enough free cash to compensate that sum to Russia
8. Belgium takes a simple position: no signature = no release of funds. Kthxbye
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>>522488796
Russia wanted to join NATO around 2001-2006 and be in association with the European Union from 1999-2009. Then all of this became impossible, but the entire economic system was built to be a raw materials appendage of the Western world. Politically, it was an oligarchic regime with an elite that favored parts of the West. When it became clear that this was not going to happen, the elite began frantically searching for other options. They settled on the GDR model, but this model, too, did not correspond to economic stability or the loyalty of the elite. Therefore, in 2017, they decided to build up their military potential and drift toward an imperial doctrine.
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>>522489168
Great post !
When is the US going to be put under sanctions and have its assets seized to pay off the victims of illegal american wars and under illegal military occupation?
The US has over 800 military bases outside its borders
The victims are so many we could just list continents instead
South America
Middle East
South-east Asia
Oceania (coconut people nuked)
Japan (nuked)
China
Europe
England
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>>522489158
And I answered your question. But if you cant even understand this simple answer it just mean you are too fucking stupid to even cope with opening a bottle.
I explained in what I wrote about macro and micro economy. And if you cant even understand this, its time for you to log off in your basement and wait for another round of social security.
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>starting an imperialist, revanchist war
>a mutt
seeth
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>>522486206
Replace EU with US, and I think it might be more accurate
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>>522489413
I forgot to mention Vietnam and Central Asia, where americans committed war crimes on millions of people
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>>522489356
>Then all of this became impossible
it never was possible, because Moscow is the largest capital in Europe.
If Russia joins EU or NATO, then Moscow by definition becomes the capital of EU and NATO.
I don't think Paris and Berlin, or Washington would be very happy about it.

It's simple geopolitics. You should learn some.
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>>522489325
>use Russian money without Russia's consent
retard, that's not how it works in the real world. russia's assets have been confiscated and disbursed to the plaintiffs numerous times, there only has to be a court order. The assets are in EU jurisdiction and will be disposed of according to EU laws. That's what civil law suits do, they assess the damages and impose compensation to the injured party regardless of the defendant's opinion on the matter.
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>>522486206
>how to out yourself as a russnigger in thirteen easy steps
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>>522488438
>whataboutism
retard lmao
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>>522489678
Russia is not a citizen or subject of EU, you fucking retard.
Plus, domestic law =/= international law.

Russia and EU are equal parties, and EU has no authority or jurisdiction over Russia, same as Russia has no authority of jurisdiction over EU.

EU taking Russian money, is no different from me taking your money.
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>>522489413
No one is stopping you from filing the petition on behalf of perceived victims anytime, in any court you think has the jurisdiction.
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>>522489607
Я знaю, чтo этo былo нeвoзмoжнo. Ho вcя poccийcкaя внeшняя пoлитикa дo 2008г былa выcтpoeнa чтoбы дocтичь этих цeлeй. Я хopoшo пoмню yлыбaющeгocя Пyтинa c экpaнoв TB, гoвopящeгo "B Eвpoпy вмecтe c Укpaинoй!"
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>>522489325
EU is not going to use Russian assets period. Its an idea.
EU alone is neither going to give Ukraine money from their own pocket or European countries for that matter. The buildup of Ukraine for that matter is estimated to so many trillions that no country here or an institution is going to pay that because the country is done. They might do investment or hand out big loans via banks that deal with this but beyond that, no.

And when it comes to funding, this funding is done by money that ends up in corporations all over the west in form of weapon production, energy, food, current rebuilding etc.
Here in Norway we have "funded" Ukraine with around $8B so far (give or take) This money is security. So they dont get it in form of cash or anything like this. This is money that goes into arms made by either us or partners of us that make money off this. We have deals on every sector where money from the oil fund goes into this, and where we either have corporations within our own country that get this money (so the money is still in the country), or given to european or american businesses for what they can provide. So the money is still within the west, either here, Europe or The US.
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>>522489607
>>522489907
I know it was impossible. But Russia's entire foreign policy up until 2008 was designed to achieve these goals. I vividly remember Putin smiling on TV, saying, "To Europe together with Ukraine!" (Sorry, missclick)
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>>522489416
you can't answer because you're not norwegian, just a shill ;-)
real people have real life answers, not aggressive agenda shitposting
>>522489607
they wouldn't have become the capital of the EU simply because Brussels is the capital, despite its small size, population and economy
The EU couldn't/wouldn't absorb fucking Montenegro and Albania, yet we could absorb Russia?
Russia as a EU state would've been just another vote among EU executive leaders and a diverse voting bloc in the european parliament, with its diverse share of cuckservative faggots, socialist DEI-ESG faggots, libertardian faggots, right wing morons, eco gay clubs and random independents
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>>522490030
>Russia as a EU state would've been just another vote among EU executive leaders
that's not how EU functions
The guys with the bigger stick get to set the tune. This is literally documented in every academic literature about EU's internal policies. Even if your representatives disagree with EU's direction, they still have to agree or face ostracization and become "not eligible for handshakes".
EU is pretty much just a political experiment, which ended up regressing into USSR 2.0

And if Russia would join this USSR 2.0, Moscow would be the tune-setter.
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>>522489793
I'm talking about the jurisdiction where the assets are physically situated. russia can throw any fits it wants out in the media, but the assets are subject to the jurisdiction where russia willingly placed them before starting the retarded war. This is done all the time, a court that has jurisdiction can impose a judgement against the defendant and his assets to compensate the victim. russia can chose to appear in that court or just let it go. Many plaintiffs have been compensated in British courts in this way, for instance.
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>>522490030
Born and raised here. But like every typical welfare loser who have zero clue about anything, will give answers like this even tho its been explained in the most simple way.
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>>522486645
How much Ukrainian territory does Ukraine hold after near ten years?
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>>522490183
>The guys with the bigger stick
by that measure, the russian "stick" would've been smaller than that of Italy, you moron.
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Who cares? As long as Russians are dying its good
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>>522490221
yes yes, the local court of the local jurisdiction can take Russia's money, and it will be legal... locally, that is.
But internationally it will be seen as stealing money. And the amount of countries willing to keep their assets in EU will be significantly reduced.

It pretty much shows you don't understand international relations or international laws whatsoever.
What is legal inside a jurisdication can stay legal inside a jurisdiction. Even if that inner jurisdiction decides it is legal to eat dogs, or burn people on a stake.

But you fail to understand the fundamental principle of how states function on the international scale. There is no international government, no international police, no international court.
So whatever your local court decides, means absolutely jack shit to a court in another jurisdiction.

Hence, if we just do basic math reduction - whatever the fuck EU courts decide - has no legality internationally.
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>>522486206
I hope Churkas ass rape many Euro-poors in their own living rooms when Russia invades Europe after Ukraine.
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>>522490347
>by that measure, the russian "stick" would've been smaller than that of Italy, you moron.
absolute autism
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>>522486206
>Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.
Along with kikes and their kikery, this is the most important thing
These effete, superfluous little shits trying to be a big deal
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>>522490454
>no international court.
This just shows how clueless you are about the whole issue. Go do some reading before you opine on a subject.

International Court of Justice (ICJ)
Function: Settles legal disputes submitted by states and provides advisory opinions on legal questions referred by authorized UN organs and agencies.
Jurisdiction: Cases are submitted by states that have consented to the court's jurisdiction.
Structure: Consists of 15 judges elected to nine-year terms by the UN General Assembly and Security Council.
Location: The Hague, Netherlands.
The following 193 States are currently Members of the United Nations (the dates on which those States which have made declarations recognizing as compulsory the jurisdiction of the Court are also listed):
(Russian Federation - Original Member)
https://www.icj-cij.org/states-entitled-to-appear
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>>522490520
retard, how do you measure "the stick" in an economic union if not by the economic output?
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>>522491046
>>522491212
The international system of states functions based on a similar principle to blockchain. (never thought I'd use an analogy like this, but it fits).
There are no "international courts" or "international legislators".

The whole "international legal system" is based on mutual trust, and goodwill. There is absolute no single authority that can decide neither legality nor legitimacy on any subject, nor any war.
Countries or alliances can do it locally, using their local courts and local lawyers. But on the internal (non-local) field, legality and legitimacy is decided through mutual cooperation and mutual agreement. Not by some higher authority or some court.

For example, the UNGA (UN General Assembly) cannot adopt laws, it can only adopt "recommendations". Hence, why UNGA resolutions have no legal power of enforcement. It's more of a conversational platform.

The only international body that has the power of enforcement is the UNSC (UN Security Council). Because if they decide to enforce something, they can simply bomb the shit out of the country that refuses to comply.

But here's the deal: Russia is a permanent member of the UNSC.
Yes, there's only 5 of them.
Good luck confiscating something from one of the 5 states in the world that has the ability to enforce laws unilaterally.
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>>522491046
>International Court of Justice (ICJ)
literally a meme
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>>522487941
More industrial basis than the US, du Lappen.
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>>522486206
we know: the EU is eliminated by this time in 2 years, split again into London/Brussels and the rest, no one cares about cocyx.

No one can't control the 8 billion people and that causes the EU lies to break out within the EU. The EU fucked up when they let teh migrants in and their one salvation ins to close EU borders.
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>>522486206
>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU

false, it's a US led war
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>>522491046
>ICJ
It’s impossible to have a real functioning court without an attached legislator and sovereign entity.
This is why nobody takes ICJ seriously, as it falls out of the traditional legal framework of law enforcement. It’s like having a steering wheel but without the rest of the car.
Basically a LARP court that has no power over major international players, because any form of legal enforcement directly comes FROM those international players
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>>522491575
>More industrial basis than the US, du Lappen.
in your dreams lmao
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>>522490335
>the 10 years smo to stop ukraine from retaking its territory
grim

>>522487206
shut up subhuman gypsy, you are the niggers of europe
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>>522491477
>There are no "international courts"
do you have some sort of reading comprehension disability?

Jurisdiction: Cases are submitted by states that have consented to the court's jurisdiction.
States which have made declarations recognizing as COMPULSORY the jurisdiction of the Court.

the current russian "government" may ignore, disobey, "veto" the ruling but this will not last, as it it will inevitably cease to exist and the new russian government will have to comply.

>Russia is a permanent member of the UNSC.
and it should've been kicked out back in the 1990's. It probably will be after this war fiasco.
>has the ability to enforce laws unilaterally.
is it gonna invade Belgium to "get its assets back"? Like I said, the overseas assets are subject to sanctions and confiscation based on judgements of the local jurisdiction. Many such cases.
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>>522488799
>>522488138
I'm blown away by how smugly retarded and wrong you are.
You also type and type and type and magically have found a way, with all that effort to say nothing outside of buzzwords.
You are broke you fucking moron. The whole world is broke but you especially in the eu.
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>>522491859
>a LARP court that has no power
Following the ICJ's decision on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, many states provided financial and military support to Ukraine, influenced by the court's ruling on the illegality of the invasion.

well, that's something. It's all the legal excuse many governments in the world needed to supply aid to Ukraine.
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>>522489416
You didn't explain shit you giga nigger but mention a buzz word multiple times, and then somehow smugly act like you are anything other than a complete brainless moron too ego filled and scared to admit to yourself that your corrupt people made a bad move.
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>>522486206
>6. Eurocucks want to pretend Europe is still a competitor to China and USA, but it isn't, and never will be.
It probably could be if they weren't dumbass bureaucrats
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>>522486206
>EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.
The motive is clear why they want to keep the war going because they are on record with their deluded takes on it and it's become a sunk cost, many billions thrown into it, so they want to save face and it's "too big to fail" now. But, consider this, the very fact they want the war to continue and insist on dragging it on for years now, is actually something that's doing more damage to their reputations to the point where they actually will cause the thing you're talking about. Like if they're actually fine with this insanity dragging on into 2026 or beyond, doubling down on sanctions packages that blow back, etc while continuing to toss billions at corrupt officials, continuing to import infinity browns, I think it may simply reach a breaking point eventually. But I don't think we're quite there yet, I think if they actually were competent they could actually keep the EU gravy train going for another 5-10 years. At this point, accelerate. Let them burn whats left of their reputations to the point where even the average normie hates them. Then if they're being Luigi'd in the streets people will just shrug and say they had it coming.
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>>522492075
>Macron's sovereign Europe plan is bad
>you're the niggers of Europe
Yeah, I am european, not a shitskin transplant on welfare like you
Under his plan, your shithole countries would go back to being colonies and raped like they should've been
We wouldn't let Ukraine and Georgia become russian assets, why should n. africa be any different?
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>>522486206
3 years of bleeding our biggest danger dry from the comfort of my own couch at the cost of some old stockpiles
>EU is losing
>The longer the war continues, the more injured European citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.
man, i feel so very injured, if this 3 day special military operation goes on for another 3 years, then i might be even be inconvenienced a little
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>>522492953
>BUT WHAT ABOUT
nigger
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>>522492982
>at the cost of some old stockpiles
it was at the cost of the totality of natos state-of-the-art weapons, and it destroyed any hope of security europe had for a century

you smug /k/ nigger bot
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>EU
Delete this and replace with "London" in your post. And you would increase the accuracy.

No doubt London/Paris will be butthurt if they can't Shrink Asia / Expand EU.
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>>522492982
>man, i feel so very injured, if this 3 day special military operation goes on for another 3 years, then i might be even be inconvenienced a little

lmao, youre gunna be more than "a little injured" you smug arrogant /k/ pussy
cant fucking wait for the great "european finding-out" about to erupt
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>>522493289
oh nooo, im so scared, were all out of weapons and russniggeria can invade us and take over in 3 days any day now, oh nooo
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>>522492982
>then i might be even be inconvenienced a little
Oh that's good to know that you haven't been inconvenienced by the war. You're bragging about your life in Finland while your countrymen have to deal with it. How very patriotic of you.

And of course you want your countrymen to keep dying because you don't want to go back to Ukraine. Coward.
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>>522493388
in 2 more weeks? can you tell me when this great finding out will come so i can prepare?
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>>522493433
Helsinki is within range of missiles though.
Are you actually prepared?
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>>522493523
helsinki is a typical homo metropolis, it could do with a little nuking, i fortunately do not live there
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>>522493433
>oh nooo, im so scared, were all out of weapons and Russniggeria can invade us and take over in 3 days any day now, oh nooo

the entire world would collectively shrug as you get absolutely steamrolled too, it would be hilarious
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>>522493583
After that city is laid to ruins, what will happen to your country?
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>>522493500
>in 2 more weeks? can you tell me when this great finding out will come so i can prepare?

when the last ukrainian male dies, thats when
so I guess you better pray they hold out..because guess who's next to (((defend democracy))) in ukraine..!!?!??

CMON GUESS!!
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>>522493626
it will be a better place, and russia will still be a post-communist apathetic shithole
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>>522493692
>it will be a better place
Unorganised, import dies, export dies, how will you maintain/repair your power plants?
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>>522493768
vassal flags are in global world-wide psychosis at the moment
every one of them is frothing at the mouth for a chance at national-scale suicide "death-by-cop"
>pic related
she even looks like a US ww2 caricature-cartoon 'zipper-head'
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>>522493899
Hehe, the huge problem in Scandinavia is the have been groomed/micromanaged to be the
"backrow" class in classic RPG game, they were micromanaged for the past 40 year to be the intellectual class in the backrow, far away from the frontlines in Iraq / west-asia.

But now they suddenly forced to be front-line.
Putting all your Backrow units into your front line will always yield lulsy results. LMaO
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>>522494225
>Hehe, the huge problem in Scandinavia is the have been groomed/micromanaged to be the
>"backrow" class in classic RPG game, they were micromanaged for the past 40 year to be the intellectual class in the backrow, far away from the frontlines in Iraq / west-asia.
>But now they suddenly forced to be front-line.
>Putting all your Backrow units into your front line will always yield lulsy results. LMaO

the best and most hilarious part of these absolute shit-for-brains vassal states like finland/poland are like an all-you-can-eat buffet of draftable meat with iron clad conscription laws on the books london/nato can game untill the very last one of them dies clapping like a seal cheerleading for nato against Russia

cant wait for them to get everything they ever asked for and more picking a fight with Russia
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>>522494736
>2 more weeks until superpower russian rolls the iron curtain over europe
live in reality faggot, europe is over twice the population of russia, and like 10 times the gdp, the cold war era is long gone and russia is not the ussr anymore, and has continued to stagnate as a corrupt shithole besides, that if anything has become painfully clear because of this war
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>>522486206
>3. NATO cannot afford a war against Russia even if it really wants to have a war against Russia. It's too costly politically AND financially/materially
I think NATO could have a war with Russia joining Ukraine and win the conflict, it would cost them financially but I am not sure NATO can afford it polticialy as the American people are still too anti-war and isolationist given the failure in iraq/afghanistan and current hatred the American people have against the system.
>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
I would say it is the states who are continuing this conlfict with military and financial aid
>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
Lol, nope it was the American Jew Anne Applebaum and the American empire, you're giving Europe way to much agency. We are a union of vassal states under the US empire.
>9. The only side that wants the war to continue is the EU.
The American empire wants it to continue, the only thing that is giving them pause is the conflict in Israel and having to fight a two front war.
>12. Ukraine is NOT fighting for its national or sovereign interests at this point. It's fighting for EU's interests.
They are fighting for American interests
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>>522494736
The guy you're arguing with isn't Finnish, he's a Ukrainian who ran away: >>522493494
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>>522486544
>>522486645
So you just posted a picture of Russia winning
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>>522494982
>and like 10 times the gdp
Insurrance company receive a lot of GPD from car owners, but this will not help in a war.

>twice the population
90% of you have been groomed to become nerds at Nokia.
This is not helpful for a frontline nation.
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>>522494982
twice the population, and absolutely zero-will to fight some insane gore-soaked FPV war vs Russia (thats no.1)

and
>"Muh GDP"
means jack nigger-shit nothing
europe already tried the whole
>"throw pallets of printed cash at Russian fortifications"
and it failed so hard it demilitarized the continent
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>>522486645
This vatnigger made the same thread yesterday.
More refineries will burn and it's far from assured that trump will manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because everyone in Europe hates this child raping subhuman by now and actual Americans (so not twitter indians, pakis and other such scum) are also not very happy with how great that pedophile made america.
If anything this might finally be the breaking point for Europe to take decisive actions and e.g. seize the russian criminal oligarch money parked in Europe as the kremlin regime has seized our legal assets in russia.

>>522488983
He is right to mock the delusion that the russian government-mobster economy is in any way comparable.
Even non-africa countries are often incomparable, for example the Japanese economy is incomparable in structure to that of Spain or that of America - even if they were the same size.
That counts doubly so for russia vs any non shithole-country.
You delusional vatnigger monkey.
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>>522493494
Lmao what a toxic ally, imagine trying to make the general somewhat cozy and this toxic faggot comes in. Now we know why the other general is called chug.
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>>522491881
>news media is credible only when it confirms my biases
monkey
https://www.dw.com/de/wie-migranten-%C3%BCber-russland-nach-finnland-gelangen/a-67524455
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>>522493692
>>522493619
>>522493500

lmao Trump is going literally force zelensky to sign ukrainian surrender papers on live tv, its goin to be fucking absolute ratings GOLD

im sure Z will do something absurd and make it a 'forever-moment' tier meme that gets thumped for eternity
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>>522495344
>its Russia sending migrants into finland!!

AAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
AHHAHAHA
AHAHHAHAHHA
AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
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>>522486206
I disagree with many claims but not with the conclusion sir.
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>>522495508
>let me gloat
note: even jewtin himself that you seem to admire said Ukraine can't legally cede land
>>522495577
>let me deflect
Yes, this is what the kremlin regime does and it's another of the reasons why I have nothing but hate for the kremlin regime and these libshits like in your pic that refuse to take effective action against these rats and maggots.
Kamala was and is totally pathetic, just another establishment democrat and a particularly revealing set of interviews after multiple months of abandoning "her" constituents after an embarrassing defeat vs a retarded, senile pedophile fascist.
You're a worthless smarmy subhuman and probably not even from America, jeetnigger.
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Ukraine is irrelvant

Go back to /k/
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>>522491881
sorta pathetic ngl
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>>522496088
Which is why the zigger asserting that makes an entire thread about both Ukraine and /k/ on /pol/ lmao
Tell us more about how much you don't care, you faggot.
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>>522496397
He's already dead.
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>>522486561
Didn't the tv tell you the war in Ukraine started like 11 years ago?
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>>522488138
^Eurofags are totally deluded.
Good thing many of the retarded ones will be dead by 2030.
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>>522486206
>EU doesn't want to end it on reasonable terms, because that would cause the end of EU.
how? EU will gobble what's left of the Ukraine.

the rest is pretty much what's happening
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>>522488138
This is a wonderful approximation of a reddit post. Smug, passive-aggressive, confident in its assertions, but incredibly ignorant. It's the chef's kiss of effeminate midwittery
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>>522486206
FACTS
1. You are russian diasporanigger
2. You are an hypocritical bitch whining about must decadent west yet refuse to go back
3. As a russian, you lack empathy and self reflexion abilities, leading you to subhuman talking points such as

>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
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>>522486206
>Ukraine is losing
Russia is also losing.
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>>522486206
T US niggers cooping

Massiv kek.
The US has resource intrests in ukraine it wont see returnd if they compleatly fall to russia. Not the EU nigglet.

Try harder.
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>>522486206
Yes, all that and you still won't going fucking back?
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>>522486206
Fucking retarded, slavniggers are such fucking cancer
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>>522497391
Oh, hi, France.
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>>522486206
Russia is no big deal.but Usa is always ruled by commies that they make russios win.
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Day 1374 of Special Dedovshchina Operation to denazify the Ukraine, pidors are mad not even an entire administration of russian stooges at the White House can make them win at Dombas and they keep shitting all over the place whenever they go, stay as butthurt as your mobik comrade here xd
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>>522486206
just 4 more years and russia will win
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>>522487305
The Russian terms in 2022 was the exact same terms they are offering now that Ukraine said no to.

It's a Russian myth that Ukraine was "About to agree to peace in 2022"

Ukraine even back then was "We'll have a ceasefire but we're not agreeing to all this bullshit"

And Russia was "Yes they will"

"No we won't"
"Yes you will"
"No we won't"

Then Bucha happened and Ukraine just stopped talking to Russia completely

Doesn't change the fact that Ukraine and Russia were no closer to peace in 2022 than they are now.

tl;dr Boris Johnson did jack shit, Ukraine wasn't going to surrender to Russia in 2022.
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>>522488471
Dead Subhuman Russians is a win for all of Europe, if the entire Russian race was genocided it would end centuries of Ziggers attempting to destroy Europe
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>>522486561
The War officially started when Ukraine hooligans chased 100+ Russians into a building and lit on fire in Odessa 2014 uprising period, that's when Russia triggered War clauses
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>>522500677
Fake news, The EVIL and DEVIOUS Anglo-Saxons used their brains and TRICKED and BAMBOOZELED the honest and trusting naive russians with their LIES!
Russia and Ukraine were seconds away from peace if it wasnt for the ANGLO-SAXONS
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>>522487749
> just like Khazakhstan was groomed.

The process is in the active phase
You will hear about us before 2030.
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>>522500991
wtf are you talking about.
russain opposition libs I know are afraid of going to kazakhstan because they think FSB/GRU can freely kidnap them there
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>>522500864
Is Europe going to invade Russia or something?
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>>522501778
ofc they will not attack a nuclear state
when russia say they were afraid NATO was going to attack them they were lying.
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>>522501445
dear friend, pay attention to Paris and Macron, not to the Russian oppositionists
In the mid-10s, the Russian opposition had a platform in Russia that "democratic" states could not afford.
And it was a real opposition.
Everything has changed
you 'collective west' have fucked up your only real chance to overthrow power in Russia through the opposition
The reason? your collective incompetence.
In other words, you are only capable of chasing sandniggers
There is no russian opposition now anymore. Anyone who claims other is a "budget planner".

About Kazakhstan
We are being trained to "replace" Ukraine by creating problems near the Russian border. Soon.
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>>522501837
So nothing will happen and Russia will win
Got it thanks
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>>522486206
>The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
It's because Trump is on Putin's payroll.
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>>522487206
But..but..but...butthurt belt
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>>522486206
>7. The only reason war in Ukraine continues is because of EU.
>8. The only reason war in Ukraine started is because of EU.
False, it's entirely down to the mutts and their kike ruling class.
It was the mutts that started this conflict in 2014.
Why do you absolve them from responsibilities.
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>>522486645
> Russia holds on to it's gains
Okay...?
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For anyone wondering what blew up in Russia, it was AD systems guarding their vital infrastructure. Ukraine has made them a priority target. S400 Buks and early warning RADAR were struck last night. It has gotten so bad, Russia attempted to buy an S400 system back from Turkey. Turkey declined. Hilarious.
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America lost
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>>522486206
Everyone seems to forget that "Russian assets" is just EU obligations to Russia for purchased things (such as gas).
There is no money, there never was. It's just debt.
Even if EU wanted to give "this money", they would be giving their own money. It's just empty promises by retard politicians.
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>>522486206
Correction: the US started the war, but they were reasonable enough to know when to quit while ahead, have an exit strategy and be able to leave with gains. The EU was just the dumb, overeager patsy who were promised big deals in ukraine and got left with only the losses and the bills to foot.

I don't particularly give a shit abut the EU and hope it gets mortally wounded by overcommitting into this conflict. We know that Russia is not stopping now that they are retooled into warmode, mentally and physically prepared for a long struggle until ukraine is subdued in its entirety. I just hope Hungary and its potential European allies will be in a good enough position to leave the EU and gain territorial gains from ukraine by the end of it.
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>>522503465
no one was wondering anything about Russia you dumb fucking /k/ nigger

everyone is dabbing on ukriane, who is surrendering to Russia according to Trumps guidelines he set for them
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>>522503929
>I don't particularly give a shit abut the EU and hope it gets mortally wounded by overcommitting into this conflict.

thats what happened and its fucking hilarious, and there is no undoing it
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>>522504029
You know what is the funniest shit? Orbán tried its hardest during his 2010-14 term to make bringing an Army of the EU into existence, offering plans on interoperability studies, mutual procurement projects, long term defense industry developments with continuous, yearly orders into the 2030s to help them build up capacity without overt risk, infrastructure projects, joint training, new bases in east europe, etc and got laughed out of the room. Had they implemented atleast parts of it, the EU would have had a competitive defense industry by 2022

The funniest shit is, that he went and did the whole thing alone anyway, retooling Hungarian industry completely, buying entire defense contractors outright, building over a dozen new factories, even managing to convince the germs to move their entire shell production and IFV production over here over costs and likely the same will happen to the new Panther tanks. To me it looks completely fucking insane to produce all your critical war material abroad, but that's not even on the list of ten most insane things germoids did lately so whatever. Good luck to them with their looming war with Russia.
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>>522503988
>nobody
Every time something big in Russia explodes, troll farms like the one you are employed by are turned to 11. Your desperation is amusing, but predictable.
>surrendering
They are told you to fuck off. They aren't surrendering...
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>>522486206
Whoa whoa pallie, you better cool it with the anti-vibe shift talk now.

Everyone believes that Biden and Kamala were the best presidents ever since they released the Epstein files that had all the dirt on Trump, Ukraine is winning against Russia and have been ever since the pivotal winter offensive, Europe is flourishing like never before- having a fiscal, cultural, and spiritual revival the likes the world has not seen probably ever.

Anything else is clearly propaganda and should be disregarded.

Or something like that.
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>>522503988
in 2 more weeks?
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>>522502074
I know current EU elites are incompetent and without balls thank you. They cannot even deal with whoreban.

But it does not change the fact that opposition still exist, why would Lukachenko still try to kidnap them, namely in vietnam for example ?
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>>522486206
Dont care, stay in your containtment threads uhg and chug
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>>522503988
Call them, /k/ike!
That's the unofficial ZOG board name.
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>>522486206
.14 RU can't fully subjugate a band of retarded hohols with cold war hand me downs
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>>522507050
>humiliate zigger subhumans for four years straight
>right to their third world faces
>zigger retaliation ...
>l-l-lets call them n-n-na-ames
>take that!
lol
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>>522486544
Ok cypsy copper thief
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>>522486645
Take the niggers in
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>>522487444
Hans you will be living in the streets while jamal fucks your wife and daughter
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>>522487444
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>>522486206
>t.
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>>522486206
There's are like 3 true things on that list related to the EU using Ukraine as a buffer and the rest is zigger retardation. The EU and China are tied for the 2nd biggest market in the world. Militarily, the European part of NATO would absolutely demolish Russia in a war. That's why they only attack non-NATO countries.
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>>522495319
Hohols are so ungrateful.
>We send them bucks galore
>Jewlinsky frowns and demands moar shekels
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>>522510572
Not a single thing is true in your post.
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More giantess shit
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>>522486787
Delicious cope, ahmed
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>>522504775
>They are told you to fuck off. They aren't surrendering...
yes they absolutely fucking are

>>522505638
monday

>>522507050
>>522508510
ukraine lost and its fucking over for real
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>>522486561
oh good, you fell for the propaganda.
if you read a paper which said the sky was on fire, would you believe it?
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>>522487460
the millennial will be too old to rebel and also outnumbered by healthy fighting age male invaders, when they will depend on these welfare coffers and truly realize how deep the betrayal has been.
They finance their welfare, but are now also too broke to deport them.
Grim times ahead.
TND.
TBD.
TMD.
TKD.
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>>522486206
>if you filter two islands of white people on this god forsaken site you're left with complete nonsense.
Checks out.
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>>522486206
>13. The longer the war continues, the more injured Ukrainian citizens become, financially, politically, psychologically, economically.



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