Explain to me, someone who isn't a billionaire, should not support socialism.
>>522510055everyone here is equally miserabletaxation is fucking theft
>>522510327>suffers in FinlandI invite you to Romania to experience true capitalism without taxation and why 1/3 of our people left to countries that have high taxation
>>522511226Is it because of capitalism, or is it because Romanians are all retarded gypsy muttoids?
>>522510055What a gay post. Yeah, vacationing there is awesome. LIVING there, WORKING there, not so much.
socialism without nationalism is anathema.if you want to ply socialism, couch it in racial in-group preference.
>>522511355one causes the other
I would love to see a world where the US leaves NATO and how Eurocucks would immediately be taxed double because they are so scared of Russia
>>522511674You literally can't tax us at double the rate because it would be over 100%.
>>522510055>we let communists take over capitalism >and that’s why you should support socialism
>>522511674Why? The beauty of Europe isn't something that any sane person would want to see disappear.
>>522510055If Europeans have free education, how do they not know that all of their social services exist because the American taxpayer has been subsidizing their defense, and now that is changing, and their social services will only exist in history books?Does free European education not teach them even these basic facts?
>>522510055I have never met anybody who lived in a socialist hell hole that supports socialism.people like OP just assume they will be at the top of the socialist pyramid when they promote this shit
>>522510055eventually the money runs outmost europeans are old farts so who's going to pay for their pensions? no zoomer boy with 0 kids and no income
>>522511226>why 1/3 of our people lefti thought it was mainly because of the excess gypsies you've got roaming around.
>>522510327Based Finngolian. No fuckin' steppy
>>522510055The irony is people who vacation in Europe do not have any idea what it is like to actually LIVE in Europe. When you actually aren't a fucking tourist dick sucking liberal you see Europe for what it really is> PoorAverage salaries are shit> No jobsGetting a good paying job is even harder> Most will never own a house Houses are obscenely expensive in those meme walking cities> Public transit is as bad as AmericaOutside of the capital cities, public transit is as bad as a 2nd and 3rd tier American city. At least you don't have to ride with as many niggers.> Anyone with means gets private healthcare This one shocked me the most. The amount of derision I saw for the public healthcare system was crazy high. Basically Europe is fucking amazing if you are part of the landed gentry or are making an American salary (100k +) doing banking, management consulting, or whatever shit. Is Europe better? No, it's plusses and minuses are different and ultimately it becomes a wash which countries are better. The nice thing about Europe is being able to go to drastically different cultures in 3-4 hours of travel. Also American natural parks are over rated. OOO trees! OOOO mountains. Big fucking deal. I love camping and it is fun but the boner people get for the American outdoors is fucking stupid.
>>522510327>Babby's first lolbertianism
>>522510055Because American socialists are retarded rich kids who don't understand how anything works and can't set up effective systems. They have no regard for costs so things constantly get more expensive, hence the sky high tax rates in NY and CA. They can't manage something as simple as public transit, they're constantly increasing transit fares and taxes.
>>522511825Well, that makes you our stupid little slave then (if it were true, it isn't)
>>522510055I agree that Europe rocks!All the white right wing billionaires also love Europe!So instead of fighting, it's like you are already on a team with the billionaires.In America, we don't have an awesome place with a 400 year old history of having a local tradition of serving a certain cultural meal, because where I live, for example, they hate my white ancestors who founded my county in America for being slave owners who genocided native americans.We could have a Boston Tea Party New England Tea culture, with rare teas from all over the world, and a rich local myth about how New England's trade empire collected all the world's richest teas, herbs, and spices, which were once only the talk of legends.We could be a great pilgrimage site for American Patriots to see where the New York Stock Exchange, in New York, formerly New Amsterdam, lived up to both of its namesakes, and once again allowed European stock to conquer the world through trade agreements.But the founding fathers dressed up as native americans when they threw the British tea into the ocean during the Boston Tea Party (look it up).So now that whole idea is racist, so America doesn't get to have an interesting culture to explore with little stories and myths and history and rabbit holes to explore.
>>522510055>socialism.because they are socialist you fucking retardthey are a mixed economydo you know know what marketing is? when ppl hear socialist they dont think about high trust nato countries they think about the USSRstop calling it socialism!
>>522511709>you cant tax us over 100%Thats where you're wrong, bud
>>522512331It's still theft even if you throw social proofing at it.
>>522510055Yes the lack of megacorporations is unbearable here.Do not come.
>>522512080Both. The Romanians that left are all shitskin lover gypsy lover subhumans and the ones that remain are gypsy lover shitskin lover subhumans. Please nuke us already
>Muh Nvidia>5 trillionA handful of people benefit from that. The so called magnificent 7 pay little in taxes, employ very few people and the jobs they do provide are mostly for H1B jeets (slaves)Nvidia for example employs 24.000 people in America and most of them aren't even American.Volkswagen? 1.2 million employees, in europeWalmart? 2.1 million employees, in americaApple for example, they employ armies of people in China and India. Americans do not benefit from Apple being an american company, unless they're a private banker or hedge fund manager.>But what about americans who own apple stockEuros can own apple stock, I do.
>>522510055Until you admit racial realities, you're going to be arguing over multiple iterations of Team Red vs. Team Blue for the rest of eternity.
>>522510055>why do I enjoy myself on vacation more than working?Better reconfigure our entire civilization to figure out this great mystery.
>>522512963>The so called magnificent 7 pay little in taxesIronically they are all _technically_ Dutch because they pay 0% corporate tax this way.And the fact that America just lets all it's big company avoid paying taxes in their real home country is really telling.
>>522510055The billionaires and hyper elite are all for it.They're not talking about divving up THEIR money to give out to shitskins and other degenerates, they're talking about taking away from you to give to them and to the shitskins.The billionaires and hyper elite are all for it because they go from just having a lot of money to being in full charge and control everything and having all the money under Socialism and you have no way out.The sooner you figure out that socialism is less about equality and more about power and control, the sooner you'll find a clue.
>>522510055Both are wrong.Vacationing experience doesn't mean shit. And the largest company in Europe being 10% the size of nvidia also doesn't.Some things are actually better in Europe due to labor laws and wealth redistribution. But those government interventions in the economy come at a cost, and I'd say, with most people in Europe having significantly less purchasing power than people in the US, it's probably not worth it.It's not worth it to have extra job security when it's fucking hard to find a job as a result and you also make less.It's not worth it to have free healthcare if it's paid with taxes and has years long waitlists.It's not worth it to redistribute wealth to way too many people who don't work if it means you're still poor if you work.It's not worth it to have the government give you a pension if it means the government pension system is going to be a pyramid scheme.It's not worth it to have some bureaucrats regulate every little thing because they feel entitled to dictating our lives, if it means we'll have an annoying cookies sign on every website due to their whims.It's not worth it to have the government set a maximum price to rents, if they're creating a shortage this way, and they're also the ones making housing expensive in the first place with zoning laws.
>>522511674>Eurocucks would immediately be taxed doubleyou can't tax someone 140% tax, burger! check mate!
>>522510327This. Europe doesn't pay for their own security either. Very expensive bill to dodge for a continent.
>>522510055Peeps is a fucking retard, he didn’t realize that the entirety of EU is mass panicking right now with the peace deal with Trump and Putin. That social experiment will be gone in an instant the moment holhols surrender under the vatnik flag. Slavs aren’t white btw same goes to the Italians and Irish
Europoors are so muslim and homosexual they can't even comprehend the power of Paul Bunyun.all they know how to do is lie, eat slightly peppered chip (too spicy still), be homosexual and lie.
>>522512457In exchange we have the entire continent willing to die to Russia for us
>>522510055Socialism has done nothing but murder and impoverish it's people, and America has become worse the more socialism it has tolerated. Centralized government structures themselves are a failed idea. One city cannot and should not run a nation. Socialism requires the highest expression of centralization possible.
>>522511674A big military doesn't take 50% of gdp, and is not even necessary anyway.Nukes would be enough and we already have nukes, idk what these idiots are even talking about with muh "rearm europe"
>>522511494A central banking system and state enforced monopolies doesn't become based when your nation is 99% white.
>>522510055You SHOULD support socialism and it needs to be funded by the billionaires.
>>522510055Hey man I'll trade places with you if you want.
>>522514308Only american made nukes work. That's why everyone else has been too pussy to use them. Wake me up when anyone else has the balls to drop a nuke on 100k+ civilians, oh wait they cant.
>>522510055Capitalism is badCommunism is badsome sort of hybrd version of the two which discriminates between freeloaders and productive members of society and affords them different privileges while looking after the truly vulnerable and making sure big corporations cannot form to create monopolies is probably the best way to go. but ultra-capitalists and anti-western communists will never allow that to happen
Here is an example: I produce twice as much as the other workers in my office. I don't mind when the other guys are being lazy. Anytime we temporarily have a woman or feminized man come in complaining about fairness, everything turns to shit and these particular people see others being lazy and decide to be twice as lazy just to prove a point. We no longer can take an extra 10 minute lunch, or spend a little extra time coming in. If someone goes out to get food they now have to ask everyone in the office. Drama is attatched to everything and everything goes to shit all in the name of "fairness" and "rules". I still end up working the same amount except now I'm miserable and pissed at the piece of shits who do negative work and have made my life less enjoyable.
>>522510055>>522510327>>522511226I have socialism and you don't.Like a billionaire, I don't work or pay taxes. I got free healthcare, discounts on all of my utilities, and live a luxurious lifestyle compared to 99.999% of the worlds population.You pay for it all. My phone bill, every meal I eat, even the liquor I'm drinking right now came from your tax money, all while I've never worked a day in my life. I got a full night's sleep btw, woke up when I wanted to after falling asleep when my body was ready to sleep. You've probably never experienced that.You, op, fail to realize that if we switch to a "socialist system"(even though we're already fun blown communist), that you'd pay even more taxes and even more people would live like me.It's not right, you shouldn't pay for this, but your stupid so you do.I've wanted to work and do stuff, it's just I refuse to labor just so someone else can live this comfy life. I actually really have plans and ideas, I'm highly educated and skilled, I can't implement them simply because I refuse to pay taxes. Couldn't even do it as a nonprofit because I'd have to bring other people into ownership. Without federal income tax, I'd have made multiple businesses now, providing jobs and quality products. I'm just not going to pay taxes that's all.
>>522512828Why don't you do something about it then? You have guns, right? And le constitution is on your side
>>522514314Have you never heard of Hitler or the third reich?
>1PBTI>t6glistcc34g1.jpg>Low effort "engagement" baitHE DOES HAVE A GOOD POINTHE'S RIGHT YOU KNOWNOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLEDSAY SOMETHING NICEPOWERFULREALLY MAKES YOU THINKWHAT ARE THE POLITICAL IMPLICATIONSPUBLIC TRANSPORTATIONKNEELPOLITICALLY SPEAKINGAPOLOGIZEBASED OR CRINGELET ME GUESS YOU NEED MOREHOW DO YOU RESPOND WITHOUT SOUNDING MADWHAT DID HE MEAN BY THISWHY DO AMERICANSWHO WAS IN THE WRONGDAILY REMINDERWELL /POL/YOUR RESPONSEIT'S OVERPOL CAN'T REFUTE THISTHIS IS THE POST THAT KILLED /POL/POL BTFOTHOUGHTS?
>>522514065I ain't doing shit, now work harder slave
>>522514314Central banking is not intrinsically wicked. Orania has a central bank. Currency is good. Our problem is that the central bank is run by Jews for Jewish benefit. We could run it for our benefit instead.Also natural monopolies should be nationalized. Why should the profits from Norway’s oil (a national resource) go to private hands? Why should utilities and infrastructure be controlled by BlackRock?
>>522511709Haven't you heard of "debt slavery"? We have that.
>>522511226Shit says Romania has taxes, wtf are you talking about
>>522514563Just stop caring. If you had worked with pajeets, you'd understand, caring is not an option.You need a perspective shift. If a coworker is not doing enough, it doesn't mean you have to do more, it is an opportunity to also work less yourself without looking bad.>>522514685Based NEETGOD
>>522510055I dunno but i think that is kinda a bubble.
>>522510055If your 'socialism' doesn't look like North Korea (Juche), Hitler's Germany (Germanic Pagan), Gaddafi's Libya (Pan-African), or the USSR (primarily composed of Slavs), it is not socialism. It's just capitalism with a Neoliberal tinge led by a transnational economic elite. Socialism is pro-social, it's in the name. Communism is pro-worker and pro-social. Communism -> communalism -> community, when rightly applied. Apolitical Western capitalists aren't much better, but Western socialists are uniquely retarded, mainly due to the promotion of antisocial antics that are promulgated by the capitalist class. Most Western socialists are just useful idiots for the capitalist class. If there is no racial/community aspect involved, you are left open to social exploitation (from foreigners) through sexual and economic competition, as opposed to economic exploitation (by capitalists) in the economic or property sector. The end.
>>522510055If yo think you can have endless socialism in non-homogenous nations, you’re a Jewish faggot
>>522510055Vacationing anywhere is amazing. It's vacation. This is an extremely hard concept for many people to grasp.
>>522514743The locus in rev 9 have crowns>authority, wisdom, knowledgebut jeets have non of these so they can't be the locust in the book. Some other variant, probably related.
are they really using the biggest bullshit bubble stock valuation in history as a benchmark
>>522510055Because you will lose in either situation.
You're not poor just because someone else is rich. The reality is you just suck at life. No matter the system, losers find themselves at the bottom. Cope harder comrade.
>>522510055The last question is easy (the 10 percent stuff).I the US everything is blown up, bloated due to the stock exchange. And wow, it's a scam. Who's the inventor of stock? Worldwide? Rothschild. Back then, in Frankfurt Germany. On the stack can bloat up a firm with one employee and product (let's say a rotten burger) and after half a year IT MOVED from virtual worth nothing to LITERALLY WORTH BILLIONS. That's how it works. Europeans are (and that's a good thing) behind the international stock ;in this kike scam, and if you ask honest people with knowledge they will tell you, that the only solution to most of the world's problems is, to get rid of the system of stock exchange.
>>522515393It's not about the nVidia valuation, of course it is inflated, but the thing is, when something is inflated, it's because a bunch of investors think they have massive potential.Whether they're right or wrong, this is what happens when someone makes a big innovation. This never happens in Europe and that fact points at an underlying problem in Europe.And that underlying problem is not muh "corrupt politicians" that don't play by their own rules and steal some tax money or something, or that we need more regulation, or some "EU fund for innovation" from taxpayer money. It's bureaucracy itself.
>>522510055We use higher food standards as an excuse to keep american food out of our continent despite officially having some level of free trade for food.Nothing to do with billionaires.
>>522510055They aren't failures. /thread
Its funny how Americans think that the GDP means anythingLook at the Median income in the US and you will realize that most americans are worse of than the avarage european
>>522510055>>522510327please dont take us as an example, we have forever social problems with our shyness
>>522511825>the American taxpayer has been subsidizing their defense,defence against whom? "defence" spending for europe has been spent in the Coalition of the Goy bombing arabs and afghans. your US tax dollars have done no defending of european shores.
>>522512963>Apple for example, they employ armies of people in China and India.they subcontract. they buy Chinks and Jeets As A Service (CAAS, JAAS)
OP thinks that Europe is wonderful because more socialism. But anyone who has ever traveled from America to Europe is struck by two things. To the extent that Europe is wonderful, it is mostly not because of more socialism. It is because of two things:> More tradition> Fewer niggersI have been to Yurrop many times, and I tell you, I never got off the plane and said, Wow, look at all this socialism. Instead, I say, Wow, look at that cathedral, plus no niggers. And of course, the existence of a population unified by tradition, and the lack of lazy niggers, is the reason they are able to have a bit of socialism without collapsing. tl/dr: OP is a faggot.
>>522515321>pic I've noticed the opposite trend desu the better jeetbots go around posting anti-india shit nonstop, to the point where I think normies may get fatigued of jeet fatigue itself, which may not happen in canada but could definitely happen here since the juxtaposition of the indian streetshitter with the average USjeet midwit fully-assimilated normie whose parents immigrated in the 80s is very jarring. This juxtaposition basically serves to make them the blacks of the future but with less sex appeal--do NOT think that women won't feel sorry for them, I've seen it happening more and more around me. the best defense against jeets (and really everything else) is unironically electing a postracial national socialist government with a blanket ban on future immigration of all types, and free access to all types of reproductive care and HRT. America remains 60% white, non-whites troon/fag out at higher rates than whites, basically no jeets, and everybody's happy. the 2nd best defense is of course nuclear war but we have more to lose than any other race, so anyone pushing for this is necessarily jewish.
>>522510055>Hi I'm John Communistredditfaggot>I conveniently ignore how miserable most European countries are and won't acknowledge that the Norwegian model only works because it's a 99.9% white society with oil money
>>522510055Because socialism is just another rule by oligarchy. >nuh-uh, what about TRUE socialismPower always has a bottleneck, and wherever that bottleneck is where the oligarchs exist.
>>522512287Quality post but odd dunk on trees and mountains at the end there, what spurred that anon?
>>522517521pretty much this. 2/3 of the EU is mooching off france and germany. this made them arrogant
>>522510055Wealth is not created out of thin air. Europe is living on borrowed time.
>>522514230Countries that are socialist or have tried Socialism:Soviet UnionCubaChinaNorth KoreaYugoslaviaEast GermanyVietnamAlbaniaBulgariaRomaniaCambodiaPolandThe citizens of these countries are either extremely poor or the country doesn't even exist anymore. Count me out.
to avoid bums like >>522514685 just make >>522517484 an agrarian socialist system. Everyone already hates social media, there are literal encyclopedias of proof that it makes you retarded and unhappy, not to mention the actual physical effects from the EMFs. We are 10 years away from people demanding postracial agrarian socialism where people grow their own food and the entire nation is run like a high school/university. Even the rich people have some incentive to do this because being around soulless plasticized zoomers is not easy to bear.
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>>522510055Every socialist movement in history has been funded by billionaires. Billionaires use socialism and capitalism as farming tools. Socialism is literally just billionaires manipulating peasants to harvest a nations wealth and hand it all over to the state (aka the billionaires)...then they take all the money and move to another country and plant the seeds of capitalism and wait for the next harvest. It is like crop rotation.
>>522510055I like when Twitter posts just don’t say “wow it’s nice to be some where that isn’t 50% not white”
>>522510055>Do men not know that women are repulsed by their political beliefs?He's not talking about the healthcare, dumbass. When he says vacationing is nice in Europe, they mean 1000-year-old buildings, classical symphony orchestras and operas, inspiring cathedral, Michelin 19-star restaurants, beaches, alpine ski resorts, and so on. None of that has to do with regulations, you pinko commie faggot.
>>522514722The German economy literally never stabilized nor would it have, because no socialized economy in history has ever been stable.
>>522510055You absolutely should. Even someone in the low top 10% of America would be better off with many "socialist" policies like free childcare, low property taxes, and nationalized health insurance not tied to employment.
>>522511494>socialism without nationalism is anathema.>if you want to ply socialism, couch it in racial in-group preferenceBut my country is 99.9% white and majority Latvian.
>>522510055Europe doesn't have a standing army and relies on America to defend it. When your rowdy neighbors decide to invade, will your socialized healthcare keep you alive when your enemies, and I cannot stress this enough, YOUR enemies, decide to bomb every hospital in W.Eu?Because I sure as shit will not be petitioning my government to involve itself in another miserable fucking european war. The reason I despise europeans above all is that they love to walk around with their smug fucking attitudes, believing their glorified backwaters are superior, all the while being too ignorant and retarded to understand that it's all bankrolled by their superiors in the U.S.
>>522517707The people who typically fetishize Europe also talk up the national parks.
>>522518301>99.9% whiteNot exactly. We're still among the whitest countries in the world, but riga has plenty of jeets, niggers and chinks living there.
>>522510055Dude fucking live it and you'll see. But then it's too late.
>>522510055Look at the size disparity is a huge excuse. Even niggers and illegals don't really burden our healthcare system as much, it's actually greed. Healthcare is free in India, let that sink in. A developing nation of over a billion people have free healthcare while Americans are being taxed to death and charged a fee just to breatheYou know we're going to shit when India has better health care than us. Even if you screech Medicaid, there are strict requirements to be in literal poverty to get benefits. Otherwise it's all out of pocket. Insanity
>>522514314>A central banking system and state enforced monopolies doesn't become basedThen what the fuck are we supposed to do banking with then, stupid fucktard? You understand the Fed is privately owned? Jews didnt invent central banking the Swedes did
>>522518435It's nothing. You have no idea how bad things actually are in places like Frankfurt or anywhere in America.Drive 20 minutes out of Riga and its 1996 again in terms of Latvia's population.
>>522518321EU combined military budget is higher than China and almost 3 times that of Russia.
>>522510055If they're happier there, why is it that the majority of them are unwilling to fight for their countries/happiness?
>>522518841Sure, but even the other towns are going in a bad direction. It's not just riga like it was 10 years ago.
>>522510327>Finn is miserableNo, Pekka, you lot are just wrong in the head
>>522518739Gee if only the United States or the concept of currency existed before 1913 then we could use what they used.Modern countries are exponentially, infinitely, more centralized than every nation and empire in human history. Our "democracy" is literally more centralized than empires where they thought the king was a living God who had personal armies. You think the last 100 years were "normal" when it's the other 99.999999% of history that's "normal" and that's what we're fucking going back to.
>>522510055Americans invents fake numbers and then believe them to be true and measure everyone else with the fake numbers they createdHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>522518866>combinedit's cute that you're trying this hard to shill for europeans, but all the shilling in the world won't stop that cursed continent from embroiling itself in another global conflict that will leave them indebted to Americans for another 70 years.>le reconstructionAmerican Jews are on standby to lend euros all the money necessary needed to rebuild their mudhuts and mountain hovels.
>>522512331Lolberts are spiritually and philosophically right on most issues and push in the right direction. You don't mock them when they state a fact.
>>522510327We banned socialism. We have pure Tsarism. You're welcome to travel here.
>>522519046>Modern countries are exponentially, infinitely, more centralized than every nation and empire in human history.Why do you think that is, retard? Maybe because centralization is more efficient and a superior administrative system? You think our current government not getting shit done is bad now its far worse in a decentralized system. There is a reason the founders abandoned the Articles of Confederation in favor of the Fed and the Constitution>Our "democracy" is literally more centralized than empires where they thought the king was a living God who had personal armies.>You think the last 100 years were "normal" when it's the other 99.999999% of history that's "normal" and that's what we're fucking going back to.Oh you mean fucking feudalism? The system that stunted European progress for a thousand fucking years and advancement only began after the fucking Renaissance and Enlightenment? That "superior" system, retard?
>>522519433yeah combined retard. What do you think happens when the USA leaves NATO? NATO will still exist and will be more than capable to defend itself. Europe would be much more peaceful in that case too, since every major conflict there is due to US meddling. In a sane world the Rest of the World would form a defensive pact against the United States of Pissrael.
>>522510327today sweden was not a faggot
>>522510327Worked great until we started importing millions of shitskins. A neighbor of mine is a somali who has lived here for 20 years. He does not speak the language, has not worked a single day, drives a mercedes. He has 3 wifes and 8 children.:)
>>522519757While on some level i hate these mongoloids what are you doing about china or what are we doing about that? We are kinda fucked.
>>522516707it was the soviets up until 1991 and weve had a few years in between for the cia to play chess and now its the russians again
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>>522510055I don’t even understand their incessant crying or socialism. Is it not the “too big to fail” banks and corporations that always get bailed out? The rich receive a disproportionate amount of wealth distribution and they get away with not paying any taxes.
>>522519757Don't let me be the one to keep you from dreaming on, anon. Dream the magical dream, but you will capitulate all the same when your socialist bullshit comes back to bite you on the ass.And this time you won't even have the power of the free press to stir up interests. You WILL support the next great european war and you WILL die for your country.
>>522510055There's nothing good about Europe. Europe is permanently stuck in the past and it is this identification with their most thatnorveenta then from progressing. America and china are progressing and embrace change, adapting and necessary. Europe adds bureaucracy after bureaucracy until you can't even fart without a permit. The UK has just approved taking other people's money and giving it to whores and alits who pump out kids with no plans or care for how to look after them. Fuck Europe. Europe needs to get wiped off the face of the earth and a new culture out in it's place.
>>522510055The billionaires touting socialism are the same people running the government now, leaving us in the same spot, except now we don't have guns. Evict them all from positions of power, every last one of them, Dem and Repub, and maybe it may work. But until then, it's another carrot they dangle in front of us.
>>522519698>Why do you think that is, retard? Maybe because centralization is more efficient and a superior administrative system? You think our current government not getting shit done is bad now its far worse in a decentralized system. >There is a reason the founders abandoned the Articles of Confederation in favor of the Fed and the ConstitutionI thought that was because they were retarded anglols. Anglols are truly the jew's greatest ally. Hell, if it weren't for the Anglos, jewish central banking probably wouldn't have spread like a cancer.
>>522519885china can't invade europe and why would they? all they want is to secure their independence and get taiwan back. shit got nothing to do with us unless the ameritards make it that way
Socialist or capitalist doesn't matter, demographics matter, Europe is only good because it has Europeans and it's going to shit in every region where Europeans stop existing.
>>522520125saar please show us your flag saar
>>522511355Retarded gypsy muttoids is the answer.
>>522510055>IS THAT.... OMG.... IS THAT TIRAMISU???? OOHHHH, MAN ALIVE! GUYS, WE SHOULD REALLY BECOME SOCIALIST SHITLIBS, JUST LOOK AT THAT TIRAMISU!
>>522512287Anytime I hear somebody gushing about socialized health, I imagine taking them apart with a power drill in a shipping container. I understand private healthcare is it's own fuck show with insurance headaches and the risk of huge medical debt, but it's problems are at least conceivably fixable. Not easily, the system will kick and scream the whole way, but fixable. Socialized healthcare is completely unfixable, outside of totally systemic implosion, because the cross eyed retard nigger cattle that populate the country fly into an uncontrollably melty if you dare criticize their beloved healthcare in any capacity. Doesn't matter how many months they wait on the waitlist for an appointment to talk about getting on the next waitlist, or many times they almost get killed/mutilated for life because a spiritual DMV worker half assed something. The only solution they'll accept for anything is "more money" and there is no amount of money you could spend to clue them in that it's not a problem you can throw money at. Literally everybody I know has almost been killed or mangled by a crayon eater with a degree who just didn't care or got their degree in a lucky charms box. A guy I work with almost lost his balls to an infection after a hernia operation because they didn't give him post-op antibiotics.
>>522519698>Why do you think that is, retard? Maybe because centralization is more efficient and a superior administrative system?Ah yes the supposed anti jewish poster has the jewish image of his ancestors hard-written into his base assumptions.
>>522510327Would you rather be miserable or possibly join the 10% via a 1 in a 100 million lottery?Would you want basic needs like housing, medical, nutrition, and educational support met while you figured out how you’ll be part of that 10%? As you age, you’re less likely to join the 10% and more likely to be 3 paychecks away from living out on the street. Socialism is about taking care of common shared needs. Why is this so scary? Do you actually believe you’re only a lottery ticket away from joining Jeff Bezos for lunch as equals?
>>522510055>Explain to me, someone who isn't a billionaire, should not support socialism.Because we have seen the millions that have mass starved in all the socialist countries, we have seen them change back to capitalism after, like China, Rusia, Vietnam and all of Eastern Europe did, and we have seen the latest ones, like Venezuela, make 20% of their population flee to our capitalist countries and the rest don't have reliable power or water in a country rich in oil. Europe is not socialist, it's just capitalist + lots of social programs paid with high taxes. Feel free to vote for the same in the US anon, nobody is stopping you. That is the beauty of a free democratic country. In fact you already did in New York.
>>522520588you belong in a kennel
Funny they would not call themselves socialist. They would say its just a standard of treating their citizens.
>>522510055>explain to me, someone who isn't a billionaire, should not support socialismSimple:How many actual socialist billionaires do you know?
>>522514685>another Mr Shekleberg false flagYeah none of that is even remotely true. Social safety in the usa will give you the barest minimum to not starve and in most red states social safety nets are almost nonexistent. They all require medical proof approved by at least three doctors that you cant work. You are audited and observed constantly to check if you are making money off the books. If you ever look like you are living above your means they will cut you off and back bill you. And all of the "free" services you get are always the bottom of the barrel in terms of care. Worst in network doctors, shitty dollar store tier food, etc.Basically this poster is lying out their ass to rage bet you into hating "welfare queens" who dont exist anything like what he is claiming.
>>522520998There it is, the cross eyed nigger cattle I was talking about. You might be impressed by a graph with no numbers, but my frontal cortex works and I'm not.
>>522521398here is the whole study https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024fucking retard
>>522518321Shut the fuck up you idiots are useless at war stop pretending
>>522510055>entire continent's native population is rapidly declining>there is little to no movement towards limiting foreign colonization>basically a backwater vassal continentI wanted to put a bullet through the brain of every panda that wouldn't fuck to save its species.
>>522514065No, it makes you our client. You have no pull over the US and are only able to pretend that you aren't Russians because the US finds you more useful as a vassal than as a Russian asset
>>522516707Great. So can you faggots stop whining about Russia then?
>>522510327You don't know what misery is until you live in my piece of shit country
>>522521502Cool. I'm not reading it. Some pilpul based on surveys and the US spending 16% GDP or so is not going to overwrite a lifetime of seeing the system fail spectacularly in ways it has no excuse for. Again, to reiterate, I am not claiming americans have the perfect, or even a good, system. I am saying that it's conceivably fixable, whereas socialized systems are doomed to just getting progressively worse. This whole exchange is a perfect example of why it is unfixable
>>522510055Vacationing anywhere is amazing, we have cities straight out of fairytales here, good food, beautiful architecture and great weather, yet this is the most violent country on earth and half of our population live in a favela.>>522510327Fpbp
>>522522790our systems are way better in terms of health outcomes and cost. "fixing" the private for profit US system would mean that it becomes more like the socialized ones in terms of outcomes and affordability.
>>522513648The most correct post on the thread and it went for hours without a single (You) because retards in this shitty board are more worried about spreading their narrative of le based NatSoc or Commie garbage than actual facts.Based post, fren.
>>522510055I read all the shit in the thread... baka. Calling EU nations socialist is fucking crazy. There is no reason. The reason regular Americans are so anti-tax, is because they get so little back for their taxes. That's mostly because rich fucks, lobby gov to use those tax dollars to buy services from rich fuck's companies. Those companies overcharge and under-deliver. The bidding process for federal jobs that use tax dollars is veeery broken. Once you see it up close, if you're not depositing checks with 7-8 zeroes from the process, you'll throw up a little everytime you hear "deregulation". Socialism is a gibberish term here used to evoke soviet-era austerity, which if we're being honest, people making less than 40-50/yr are getting closer to. Did grocery stores in the Soviet Union in the late 80's early 90's have armed guards?
>>522511469A vacation to Chernobyl would probably be awesome, anywhere really.
>>522510055And why should a trillionaire support socialism?
>>522510055Governments don't want companies to be bigger than them,That's why the EU has a hate boner for google Microsoft and apple.
>>522510055Fuck europe. Sure a lot of shit is free, but you have to pay taxes for life on things you only use a little bit cuz euroaches are scared of everything. Fucking bitch ass pussies. A janitor in USA makes more than the average euroach
>>522523694Well duh, governments ARE a business, who imports and exports humans and their creative imports/exports as capital.The more bullshit companies under (i.e. within) the gov't do stupid shit, the less money on average and across the median people have to then buy shit which funnels tax money back.Monopolies actually cheat the gov't.It's in their interests to anal rape companies like google, microsoft, and apple when possible.
>>522511646capitalism causes romanians?
>Open /pol/>See post from fucking Test Bear CleavermanWhat an odd intersection of topics.
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>>522510055If we didn't support for billionaires, then who would feed us money?
>>522510055Tech companies are in the States, not in heavily regulated EuropeAll of them.seethe.
>>522510055>everything is better and HEALTHIER
>>522510055>More equal wealth distributionLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>522510055You're going to greak your back paying for all these rapefugees.Isn't Germany in recession already?You should blow up more nuclear power plants (they're le bad), that will help.
>>522510055"Socialism" aka sensible support programs work...to an extentsomeone who gets a cancer diagnosis can still be a productive memeber of society"but muh CEO profits bro you gotta let them die" says the amerishartBUTa lot of american lefties are delusionalfor examle social problems don't solve the nigger issue"booohooo poor laguisha wouldn't smoke crack if she had kids aken care of in pre-K"yeah no we have all those "socio-economical facors" covered here and guess whatGypsies still behave like subhumans and do crime
>>522526276Either your productive cancer guy dies or you get to pay for fifty million Mexicans, your choice.Children deal in theory. Men see patterns.
>>522525202What's funny is that it's the Japs who said the last quote.
>>522524408Monopolies never exist without government assistance.
>>522523559Your system doesn't exist so long as you're protected militarily by the United States. Systems that only work inside snowglobes don't work at all.
>>522510055wow pay taxes so you can get faggot surgery?
>>522520710>Would you want basic needs like housing, medical, nutrition, and educational support metNot for my enemies, no.
>>522510055>Explain to me, someone who isn't a billionaire, should not support socialism.What if you win the lottery a thousand times in a row and become a billionaire yourself?Better prepare for that very real possibility by enthusiastically supporting your future peers.
>>522511226Wtf are u talking about? We have huge taxes also you're a gypsy
>>522510327>everyone here is equally miserableIf your first thought after being hit by a car is not "I hope nobody calls the ambulance because I cannot afford the extra debt", you have no idea what misery is.
>>522510055Get a fucking job
>>522525794>everything is better and HEALTHIERUK is Little America. Why do you think their pensioners retire to Spain?
>>522527035>We have huge taxesYou're right. The true capitalist should get a one-way ticket to Somalia and enjoy the lack of government.
>>522510055Europe has been lucky enough to have somebody else as their defense umbrella for the last 70 years. You have lots of spare money for your economy when the bills for your military are taken care of. Watch how fast all of those amazing European benefits begin to disappear now that Russia is back to it's old tricks and the American taxpayer isn't a fucking unwilling financial doormat anymore. Good luck!
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>>522515059This attitude is why it's always shitskins going to White countries
>>522521268Please. I live in probably the most conservative state in the country, and we're full of niggers and spics living fat off of welfare. They get cash cards to spend on junk food at the store, and they usually just sell it for drug money. God I hate browns.
It's not socialism to demand back the lifestyle that was stolen from us
>>522521268>welfare queens" who dont exist anything like what he is claiming.Every brown is a parasite that cannot be supported much longer.
>>522528569The 1960s brought us Hart Cellar, sex ed, and the environment that created the boomers.
>>522527491>Why do you think their pensioners retire to Spain?Aren't they being kicked out since 'Brexit'?
>>522510055Because you're a kike. And all billionaires are kikes. And all kikes and billionaires want to enslave White people under communism.
>>522510055europeans have made no significant technological contribution to humanity since ww2
>>522528723>environment that created the boomers.The problem with boomers is that the elected Ronald Reagan. What are you saying? That if we enforce fair taxation on the wealthy that the result will be no longer doing that? Are you retarded?
>>522514437I'm pretty sure that the French nukes that they make all on their own work
>>522510055Socialism is a jewish scam just like every other economic systems requiring central banking.
>>522510055Because I am upper middle class and would lose out under socialism Also I have never seen a good communist society
>>522529345Actually with the accumulated wealth of the modern 1 percent, we could "have socialism" without having to tax anybody making under 1 mil a year any differently
>>522510055>social safety netThe funny part is that European nations are nowhere near as socialist as socialists in the US like to paint them as. They like to pretend that Europe now is somehow the same as what Sweden used to be in the 70's and stopped being. >>522516707Did you forget about the entire shitfest Trump started in his first term about NATO members (except Poland) not meeting the 2% of GDP being spent on military as required for NATO membership?>>522512287>American natural parks are over rated. OOO trees! OOOO mountains. The appeal is that if you actually go into the wilderness instead of the small parking lot campsites and designated hiking trails nearby those campsites, you can get reprieve from much of the trappings of civilization and spending time in what remains of a more primitive and natural environment. A perpetual tourist such as yourself would not understand this. Exploring that wilderness is just a bonus. >>522516672Finland sounds like a nice place to live if you like peace and quiet. As such, I think no one should be allowed to move there who isn't from one of the few Finnish Diasporas.
>>522529073>The problem with boomers is that the elected Ronald ReaganYeah that's the problem retard, not all the degeneracy and sociopathy and blood poisoning.
>>522529743Yeah for one year if we assume 100% efficiency lol
>>522530044>military as required for NATO membershipthere is no "required" amount of GDP to be spent on defenseall those spending targets are just that targets not requirements
>>522519814Is this one of those "anon discovers he's color blind" posts or just our mutt education system on display?
>no one pointed out that VACATIONING in yurop is different from LIVING in yuropI'm sure the non-nigged countries, which is probably maybe Iceland and Estonia, are probably okay places to be but otherwise you're getting psycho leaders dumping hundreds of thousands of shitskins into the homeland your people have homogenously lived in for 2000 years.>stupid american, you have niggers too!True. And vacationing in american vacation spots like hawaii would beat the shit out of actually living in the suburbs of new jersey or some other place like that.
>>522521268Holy shit you are fucking lieingI'm still sipping that 9 year whiskey and just ate a slice from the best pizza joing in a 50 mile radiusWhat kind of shit shill even are you?>Dollar store foodYou mean the exact same stuff from the grocery store but 5x more expensive?You have no fucking clue what you're talking about>Verified, stalked, and made to backpayYup, that's me, audited, verified, and still getting that fat check>Social safetyNobody fucking calls out that, shill
>>522531166>>522516672FINLAND MENTIONED
>>522510327 You should come live in Chicago for a month and learn what real theft is like
>>522529073TBDTKD
>>522510327How do you expect women to live, anon?
i will never support socialism becouse it creates corrupt ruling class and terror state, everything is bullshit and fake, nepotism and unqualified people in powerthe idea of everyone is equal but some are more equal is fucking pissing me off
>>522533317Women under 30 will always be valuable to someone. The other women will just wither on the street I guess.
>>522529021>Steve Ryan, Water Powered Motorbike (early 2000s)>Stanley Meyer, Water Fuel Cell for powering water-powered carts and vehicles (1970s-1980s)>Tom Ogle, 100mpg vehicle with fuel vaporization system (1970s)These are just a few. Patents blocked/creators killed because the government needs a monopolization on technology, corporate profiteers, and we have to babysit nonwhites in a low-trust society
>>522510055Socialism requires the state and the state is inherently violent. Fuck you commie faggot.
