>be me
>check which IP this thread was posted from
>INDIA
>inform /pol/ after that, tell them to fuck off, add herbs and spices & then I close the thread

The medicine I buy has been 70 dollars the entire year
Sometimes its a few dollars more
Sometimes a few dollars less

But of course you can't really gauge medicine prices by what you buy since the pharmacy has to go through a distributor who has their own price on the meds they then sell to the pharmacy

>>522513489
do not reply to indians

>>522513385
Shouldn't the drug prices go up though as Trump is bombing the supply chain?

>>522513385
nothing can fall more than 100%, this is saying you now get paid to take drugs

where do i sign up?

>>522513385
The argument isn't on whether Trump is a lying retarded creepy scumbag anymore, if you couldn't tell already you probably can't be convinced. The argument is on whether Trump's policies are worth it.

>>522513438
stahp

>>522513385
If Trump said it it's not true

>>522513385
A fool is known by a multitude of words.

Where does he get these numbers? It's literally not possible unless drug companies are paying us to take drug

>>522513385
yes I am currently being paid by RFK to take ivermectamine for my colon cancer. Thank you Patriots!

>>522513722

The smartest American I know

>>522514093
From his ass, where everything else that comes out of him comes from and where miggers eagerly eat from
This nigger knows he's cooked and the people constantly having to cover for him know they're cooked too. Can't wait to see his entire admin get raped by the next dem one.

>>522513527
or just post like this
it doesn't bump their thread :3

>>522513722
bro.


ok, bare with me here:
lets say a certain drug costs 140 bucks. if the price falls 700% that means its divided by 7, not redused by 140*7. so the new prise would be 20 bucks. get it?

>>522513385
A decrease of 100% leaves you at zero.
And since no one is paying me money to take medications I would say, "debunkerino diddley false."

>>522514105
I believe you

>>522513385
i wonder does this guy write this garbage or he's paying someone to write it ? imagine being a guy/girl writing something like that on shitter/orange retard social network
>now you write with HUGEEE LETERS what i would say, also a lot of exclamation points, ALSO WRITE MY NAME AT THE END

>>522514317
"700% decrease" does NOT mean divide by 7.
"Decreased to one seventh" means ÷ 7.
The "very stable genius" is a junkfood horking, innumerate idiot.

>>522514317
That's not how percentages work.

140 to 20 is about 85%

no actually my mom's medicine got about 20% more expensive due to inflation adjustments

fuck you trump

>>522514317
are you retarded? if something drops from $140 to $20, the price fell by 86%, not 700%.

>>522513385
>supposedly a businessman
>doesn't know how % works
americans

Can someone explain how prices decrease by more than 100 percent? If the cost of something is reduced by 100 percent then isn't it zero? Are drug companies now paying customers seven times the value of their drugs to take them or am I just a fucking retard?

Politicians are always using crazy percentages like this. It's gotta be some weasel words but I don't get it.

>>522513722
just be a nigga

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Why would the Antichrist care about your economic health?

>>522513385
Rare Drumpf truth, my asthma inhalers used to cost me $1-, they’ve been free since Trump got back in. Wife’s meds are at least 75% less as well. He did one thing, I guess.

>>522513385
Prices can't drop more than 100%

Why does the story need to be told? Won't everyone notice meds are no longer expensive if this was true? kek. Probably because only a few meds dropped in price.

The root of the problem is not solved, and Trump's theory on why meds are expensive is not in line with the way prices work in a free market. He is not interested in solving the problem, because this is one of those things that are forever unsolved because no politician wants to get to the root, and they keep applying patches.

Whoever takes Trump seriously can't be helped.

>>522515454

How much are your wife's meds after the price drop? Is that with insurance?

>>522515292
>his characteristics
Orange man is none of those things

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/10/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-announces-second-deal-to-bring-most-favored-nation-pricing-to-american-patients/

>ADVANCING MOST-FAVORED-NATION PRICING: Today, President Donald J. Trump announced the second agreement with a major pharmaceutical company, AstraZeneca, to bring American drug prices in line with the lowest paid by other developed nations (known as the most-favored-nation, or MFN, price).

>AstraZenica
>British/Swedish drug company
>"bring in line with lowest paid by other developed nations"
Sounds like he's piggybacking off of the NHS.

>>522517453
>>522517637
>let me tell you about your country
stfu dumb faggot yuro
would you like if i went around lecturing you on how poorly you managed your civil war and post-war reconstruction?
whats that? no? that would be fucking annoying and gay?
gee, who knew?

this is easily verifiable, and as >>522518061 noted, likely to continue
one of the biggest reasons why healthcare costs got this high in the first place is because obamacare basically incentivized the insurance cos to be as scheisty as they could, with zero repercussions (they were practically rewarded for it). now thats over, and costs are coming down. a true """miracle""".
and theyll likely come down even more as all this continues and we no longer have to provide healthcare to 10s of millions of illegals

>>522518995
>NHS
>One of the largest medical organisations in the world
>Buy drugs for an entire country, massive economies of scale
>Thus can get them cheap

>American healthcare providers
>Don't buy in such bulk because that's communism
>Still want it cheap though because "not fair"

>>522518995
More like
>let me tell you about common sense

The fact prices can't drop more than 100% is not specific to your country. Neither is the fact that what Trump says about why meds are expensive is not how prices work in a free market.

The "let me tell you about your country" counter "argument" is basically complaining that people who post on /pol/ enjoy discussing international politics.

>would you like if i went around lecturing you on how poorly you managed your civil war and post-war reconstruction?
Sure, bro. No no, it would be appreciated. I want feedback on how I managed my civil war and post war reconstruction, if you have any interesting thoughts, I will take notes for next time I manage a civil war. I think the previous time was not that bad but needs some polishing.

>>522518995
>this is easily verifiable
Of course it is.

>give a company a legal monopoly on something people need
>when they make prices way too high, tell them "hey, cool it", and make a deal that they'll drop the prices on some meds for a while

No shit.

>one of the biggest reasons why healthcare costs got this high in the first place is because obamacare basically incentivized the insurance cos to be as scheisty as they could, with zero repercussions (they were practically rewarded for it). now thats over, and costs are coming down. a true """miracle""".
>and theyll likely come down even more as all this continues and we no longer have to provide healthcare to 10s of millions of illegals
Would you say the average american understands this? And if not then what could they do in order to learn it?

>>522519124
holy shit you're dumb

how come people get ANYTHING for cheap without buying in bulk, then? how come bread is affordable without the NHS buying that in bulk?

>>522519520
What utter dibble are you spouting retard?

>>522513385
He's so pathetic.

>>522519602
You wouldn't get it.

Everything else is getting so expensive, enjoy your little red herring.

>>522519754
Go to the supermarket and find the pasta. Look for a small bag and a large bag. Which is cheaper per weight retard?

>>522519800
Yeah but I'm still not buying the large bag in bulk, it's just a bag, not a truck load. How come it's affordable then?

>>522513385
Who cares? My prescription is a generic that costs $3 for a 90 day supply. Pretty much all drugs are dirt cheap unless you need some new exotic AIDS vaccine or something. No clue why our politicians spend so much time whining about this.

>>522519872
>Well I don't care that the smaller bag is more expensive per kg
What point are you even trying to make retard?

>>522519520
the nhs buys the medicine in bulk from pfizer and novocock, and passes the saving to you
the supermarket buys the bread in bulk from hovis and warburtons, and passes the saving to you
it is not difficult to understand
if you approached warburtons and asked for one single loaf, it would be more expensive than you pay in the supermarket

>>522514093
They're unironically going to pass the cost on to eurotards and other foreigners lol, which is what they've been doing to us for decades.

>>522519937
>the absolute stupidity of the average /pol/ poster

>>522519949
>the supermarket buys the bread in bulk from hovis and warburtons, and passes the saving to you
American healthcare providers don't buy meds in bulk or what?

>>522513385
Every single person who enabled this psycho is going to die a painful wretched death.
America is not moving on past this man with his voters and friends in tow.

>>522520053
Not like the NHS does no.

>>522513385
No.
Paid 3.50 during Biden era.
Paid 5 bucks today. That's not a huge increase and in line with the price increase of everything else so I'm not solely blaming Trump here, but nothing got cheaper.
Maybe that fat drug got cheaper like taco said it would be?
During that press conference where one old fart fucking collapsed while the other old farts looked on in astonishment? Who knows, no one remembers or cares about that anymore.

>>522520158
Neither do the supermarkets and pasta is still affordable. Are you two fucking stupid?

the exact opposite is true in regards to whatever zognald says, just like the jews.

>i did not. suck. bill. clintons. dick.

>>522520219
Have you noticed that the supermarket is usually cheaper than the independent corner shop? Why do you think that might be retard?

>>522514317

Thank you anon.

My medicine is 9 bucks thos month and had been like 25 bucks two years ago so yeah I've seen prices come down.

They need to approve FMT gut bacteria transplants for "off label use" instead of just for C Diff though, because thats the cure for most autoimmune and neurological diseases. Anyone who isn't a shill, go ahead and search for whatever disease and FMT and you'll find legitimate cures coming from China. Btw autism is caused by an aspergillius infection in the gut.

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>>522513385
6 7

>>522514317
I was confused at first because I thought you're some kind of Indonesian or other Asian and it didn't make sense you would be THIS fucking retarded.
Then I actually checked and saw you're an African and now your retard math makes perfect sense.

>>522513385
I saw articles about this the other day. All the comments were pointing out the plan was from Biden and Trump is just taking credit.
Unless prices were going to come down every few months or years, he actually had to do something to get prices down.

>>522520028
Oh no! He really got us this time! Kek

Look man, Trumps whole "foreigners were abusing America, but not anymore! Now we're making ourselves respected and they'll pay their share!" is fiction, on any topic.

Meds can't be expensive in the US because they're cheap here so you have to make up for it. That's not how it works and it's even more absurd than what he said about tariffs or the trade deficit.

>>522520277
Yeah but the difference is a few cents, not as big as with NHS med prices vs american med prices. Why do you think that might be retard?

>>522520028
>cope
eurotards and foreigners will pay you for you to use the drugs i guess

>>522520723
Oh so you are now acknowledging that economies of scale are real then are you?

>>522520028
Backward ass leftists will some how whine about this.
They say tariffs are passed on to consumers while they push for $30/hour and to take the rich, not saying all that will be passed on as well.
They're the same dumb fucks who support SNAP because it some how pumps money back into the economy. They ignore it's corporations making billions off SNAP while raising prices. They lauded California's $300 million subsidy for Hollywood too.
For some reason they won't support other subsidies which also follow the same logic and create jobs and boost the economy.

not a baby mode coffee drinker so everything is as expensive as it's ever been

>>522520737
You joke, but I just got an invoice in my mail that says I have to pay 50k€ for all the cheap meds I got in my life that americans paid for with their high med prices. Fuck! Trump is not playing!

>>522520896
Tariffs are taxes and taxes = bad. Increased wages is not a tax and historically results in the most prosperity in America. hope that helps. you should really study up on basic econ and american history anon this was second hand embarrassing to read

>>522520778
I didn't deny that. You're not understanding shit kek

My entire point was that american high med prices are not "because they can't buy in bulk like the nhs".

>>522521018
Ok so why would the NHS who are literally buying drugs for this entire country in huge bulk not be able to leverage this into cheaper per unit prices vs others who don't do healthcare in such a way?

>>522513385
>drug prices have fallen 700%
Then why does my cocaine cost the same as it did a year ago? HUH? ANSWER ME YOU SHADY MOTHERFUCKER! I DON'T KNOW YOU! I NEVER DID ANYTHING TO YOU!!!

>>522513385
If Trump tweeted it out that means it's fake

>>522521126
That's besides the point you fucking idiot. That can't possibly be the reason their med prices are THIS high. It's irrelevant.

>>522521281
That is the entire point retard. The NHS has the buying power to get cheap prices just like how a supermarket can get things cheap because of how much they buy/sell. It is not all roses though as while the NHS is very good at the mass provision of relatively basic medicine private providers with their premium pricing tend to have more of the latest advancements and better (more expensive) doctors.

>>522520949
it's funny that mutts don't understand that it's not outsiders screwing them but their own people and leaders. Government has to pay so much money to mic because those damn russkies are attacking Europe and you need to pay cosmic prices for university because you are paying for european defence. This is the intellect of the country.

Is this retard doubling down on the over 100% discount bullshit?
Holy...
When corrected, still act like a wrong retard. ~trump

>>522513969
and a memeflag is known by his many faggotries
eat shit you faggot

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>>522521497
What the fuck.

Bro. I don't even know how to explain it anymore. Maybe it's my fault you're not getting it, maybe I shouldn't have insulted you at first. If I had been nice maybe you'd have been more open to my arguments.

I apologize for disrespecting you. It's how I talk on 4chan when someone expresses a view I don't like, but doens't make it okay. It's a bad habit I keep thinking "I have to be more respectful to people on 4chan" but never actually stop it kek.

You're arguing in good faith which I appreciate and I shouldn't insult you.

Med prices in america are very high, in the UK they are affordable, orders of magnitude lower. Some people hold the view that this is primarily, or in big part, because the NHS can buy meds in bulk. However, if this was the case, then nothing that is not bought in bulk by a provider as big as the NHS would be affordable, including bread or pasta. This is not to deny that buying something in bulk lowers prices, but to demonstrate that it can't be the primary or a big reason.

>>522513385
I get paid to take drugs now
Thanks trump

>>522513385
I don't know, my only experience with drug prices is my dads cancer medicine (inlyta) and it's 20k per month and has not gone down kek. Luckily he has good insurance and is a richfag so he only pays 2k a month for it.

>>522521850
You are wrong as I have now repeatedly explained to you in excruciating detail retard.

>>522513385
it isn't true. he's retarded.

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Man...
I love these threads
All the miggers come in and prove to the entire world why jewsa has over 20% illiteracy rate and why over 50% of the ones that can read barely do so at 6th grade levels.
Absolutely hilarious.

>>522521850
>I apologize for disrespecting you. It's how I talk on 4chan when someone expresses a view I don't like, but doens't make it okay. It's a bad habit I keep thinking "I have to be more respectful to people on 4chan" but never actually stop it kek.
this is why spending too much time here can actually make you an unlikeable faggot. At least you're smart enough to notice it.

>>522521897
Wrong on what? I already explained that you are actually right about how buying in bulk lowers prices. However, that can't possibly be the reason meds in america are that much more expensive than in the UK or even a relevant contributor. Because they are a lot more expensive, not a few dollars more.

>>522513385
>700%
Shart of the deal

>>522522005
Wrong on the NHS not being able to leverage it's huge buying power to get cheap drugs with your only argument being "well I can get pasta from the supermarket (who also buy in bulk) cheap".

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>>522515228
I will explain it to you
>BIGGER NUMBER MAKE DUMB PEOPLE HAPPY. THEY CAN ONLY COUNT TO 10
>they will ignore the numbers are completely made up and nothing has been fixed because they fell for the BIG NUMBER

>>522513385
He definitely took a hit from the old Hunter crack pipe laying around

>>522519777
Checked
Trips of truth

>>522513385
holy shit, i just went to get my insulin which normally costs 5$ and not only did they give me my insulin, but they handed me $35 CASH! it actually went down 700%! thanks trump! the golden age is here

>>522521281
He's also not explaining why even small batch meds are cheaper on the NHS. But he is obviously deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue.

>>522522080

I agree the NHS can leverage buying power to get cheap drugs.

I also agree that supermarkets buy pasta in bulk and also offer lower prices than small stores.

These are both good points.

The thing is, american pharmacies, or their suppliers (there's warehouses that buy a bunch of meds from manufacturers then sell to pharmacies in the area), or those american pharmacies that are big chains like CVS, would be the equivalent of grocery supermarkets that, like you said, buy pasta in bulk, and although their "in bulk" is not as big as the NHS', they can still sell pasta at an affordable price. So then why don't these farmacies in America than also buy in bulk sell meds for cheap too?

>>522522397
>I agree the NHS can leverage buying power to get cheap drugs.
Ok good. So why then would they not get drugs cheaper than others who are not literally buying for an entire country at once?

>>522515228
It's a (bullshit) carry over from Finance & Economics - Trump has a degree in Economics. Shits fucking additive and gay
>hurr durr muh stock went up 400% in 10 yeers
>dahm I lost 300%

>>522522526
They certainly can, but if that was the only contributing factor to the difference in price, the difference wouldn't be as big. Like how on small stores vs supermarkets, the difference in price is like a few cents.

>>522522603
So what was even your argument given that mine is that the NHS gets cheaper prices than American providers do due to their massive economies of scale being the main healthcare provider of an entire country?

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>>522513385
>lie
>shits pants
>actively hurts people that are not the 1% so line go up
MIGA!!!!!

>>522513385
Just picked up effector from Walgreens copay was $62 with United healthcare. Free that tiny Italian Hitman

>>522513385
lying sack of shit a quarter still costs me 60 bucks

>>522522729
>the NHS gets cheaper prices than American providers do due to their massive economies of scale being the main healthcare provider of an entire country

My argument was that that's actually true, but not a relevant factor. Because if a med is literally 500$ in the US and 1 pound in the UK, then that's not why.

In fact, there's a lot more people in the US. Maybe some suppliers over there are bigger than the NHS. But even still, that's not a significant reason anyway.

>>522522862
>It's not why
>it's not because it just isn't.
Not an argument.

>>522522729
And you would simply be wrong about that. You don't even have the data to compare.
>Omg a WHOLE country!
Maths is about actual numbers. "Entire country" is not a number. You are making a claim and you don't actually know what the purchasing power of the US entities are.

>>522521013
Again, simple question, who pays for those wage increases?

>>522522919
It's not because it can be easily demonstrated that it can't have an effect that big. I just went into that.

>>522522751
don't take those kikepills bro

>>522522944
Do you realise that the NHS employs about 1.5 MILLION people? It's HUGE.

>>522523071
who tf cares. that is people they employ in their hospitals, that's irrelevant to buying meds

>>522523102
How many hospitals do you think these 1.5 million people work in retard? (basically fucking all of them)

>>522522773
>quarter
Is that a measurement of pot you degenerate?

>>522523071
So now that we've established that you have no idea what the purchasing power of the NHS or the US drug suppliers actually are, you cite the only number you can find about the NHS after a google search.
Yeah not playing your fake games. Come back with the actual data relevant to your claim.

>>522523264
No retard you have no established that. The next largest healthcare provider would be United Healthcare who employ about 400,000. The NHS is over 3 TIMES the size.

>>522513385
This price stuff doesn't matter as America is a big country so it is variable all over. It is going down in price in red states and going up in blue states, the typical pattern of things since lockdowns. It conforms to Americans' biases. All highlighting it does is further cement our settling boundaries between red and blue.

>>522523177
Until those European governments make it illegal to move out. They need natives there working to prop up their welfare states. Immigrants can't be trusted.

>>522523367
Why are Australian medicines cheaper when our country population is multiples lower than even the UK? This is why I know you are talking shit. You can maybe trick the people who don't have a system like the NHS, but you can't trick someone who has a similar system to you. And we have a much smaller population yet our meds are also much cheaper. Hence, it is not scale that is the cause of the lower prices.

>>522523734
Honestly I am not familiar with the Australian healthcare system so why don't you tell us? How does Australia get them cheap?

>>522523818
I give up.

You're one of those people who perceive reality in terms of chunks, or pieces, that they are incapable of putting together to form insights. A textbook sign of very low intelligence.

>>522524091
Try making an argument that doesn't suck.

>>522523818
We have a "pharmaceutical benefits scheme" which is a list of medicines that our government ultimately buys for the people. The people end up only paying a fraction of the price that the government pays. But it is a difficult process to get your product listed on the scheme and the Australian government negotiates heavily around the unit price. So it really is as basic as "if you want to sell your product in Australia then you must give us your best deal". We actually have a buyer's advocate that makes an effort to negotiate for lower drug prices. I suspect that is also the mechanism in the NHS.

>>522513385
Shut up, Arshdeep.

>>522523818
>>522524127

For much longer than would be reasonable, both me and the australian guy have been giving you examples of situations that prove it's not scale that makes meds cheap in the UK versus the US.

But in order to understand that, you'd have to understand the causal relation in the other situations in our examples (grocery stores, australian healthcare), extrapolate that, and think of the consequences of that on your analysis. You can't do that.

>>522524166
>We have a "pharmaceutical benefits scheme" which is a list of medicines that our government ultimately buys for the people
So like the NHS does?

>>522524270
You have been talking shite about economies of scale not being real because you can buy cheap pasta from the supermarket.

>>522515027
13.333% of 86.666% it's 7, so previous price of medicine was 700% as much as it was after Trump made medicine go cheaper, or so he said.

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>>522513385
>Don't talk about affordability
>I'm the affordability president

>>522524507
Welp, 1/7*

>>522524372

Let me put it another way for one last attempt. Maybe if I put it like this, it'll "click".

Meds can be produced for the price they're sold at in the UK, otherwise they wouldn't sell them.

Typically, in capitalism, despite "muh corporate greed", things that are produced for cheap are sold for cheap (eg pasta).

Therefore, the question is not what makes meds cheap in the UK, that's expected. The question should be what makes them expensive in the US. It can't be a lack of a system like the NHS, as my "pasta from the supermarket" example proves. Because the way they sell meds, with pharmacies, some of which are big chains, works similarly to a supermarket.

>>522524273
Yes like I said at the end of that post.
So this is a sovereign power negotiating on behalf of its people for a better deal. The lower prices are a direct result of sovereignty, not economy of scale. Otherwise, Australia with a much smaller population would not also be able to enjoy much lower prices.
Trump has realised this and he is asserting the power of sovereignty to get better deals like the UK and Australia.
But have a look and see if your scheme is actually done by the NHS. I would think technically that the UK government would negotiate the deals on behalf of the NHS.

>>522524660
They have big private healthcare providers that can leverage economies of scale (to a degree) however it is absolutely nothing compared to a universals state healthcare provider. The NHS is also government subsidised with taxation - it's not running for a profit.

>>522524771
>We get the government to buy in bulk for everyone
>This isn't economies of scale somehow though

>>522514317
now explain per capita

>>522524811
>The NHS is also government subsidised with taxation - it's not running for a profit.
This is irrelevant. You said scale is the main reason, so we were talking about scale. This would be a whole different discussion, which is also wrong btw, because companies running for a profit can very well make things affordable based on market competition, when there's no patents.

>>522524943
So they have massive scale that can buy in huge bulk and are also not running for a profit. You think this doesn't mean cheap somehow?

>>522525005
lefty IQ

>>522525235
More non arguments faggot.

>>522514317
Yeah, that's what Trump (and others) mean. He's using the percentage of the NEW price to the old price, not the other way around. I still think it's unfashionable (and technically incorrect too), but sellers use it to make their discount look more impressive.
>old price is 10, new price is 5
>so old price is 200% of the new price
>and new price is 50% of old price

>>522524843
Again you're not using numbers. What is "bulk"? We need an actual number. We need to know how various niche medicines can be cheaper in Australia when there is no "bulk" to speak of.
You are seeing the benefit of sovereign power over corporations. For some reason that scares you, so you invent numbers like "entire country" and "bulk".
How can a niche drug in Australia be cheaper than in the US when there is no bulk userbase in Australia?
Why are you scared of sovereignty?

Why is /pol/ suddenly anti-Trump. He isn't perfect, but have you stopped to think what a Democrat midterm win would look like? They have a younger, far more radical cohort that will make you miss Nancy Pelosi.
You're about to invite a new wave of AOC-tier congressmen. Be very careful and start showing your support for DJT!!!

>>522525438
Ok let's do numbers if you want. Last year the NHS bought about 30 million courses of antibiotics. How does that compare to others?

Have you guys noticed that the trump administration lies a lot?

>>522513385
I'm not a fat nigger so I couldn't tell you

>>522525664
You tell us. You're the one telling the story. You mean you don't know right? And you don't know how much they spent on them per unit do you. We're not here to tell the story for you.
Why are you scared that a sovereign power can dictate terms to a foreign corporation? Why does that bother you so much that you have to invent a story about scale l, and then not be able to produce the numbers to back up that story?

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>>522525711
They are lying all the time. 24h/day. FACT.

>>522513722
>>522514317
>>522514123
>>522514643
>>522514673
>>522515027
>>522520346
I hate that orange retard, but people talk this way and everyone understands it and no one cares except autists and whinebags.

>>522525899
The spent about £150 million on the antibiotics.

>>522514093
Prices are SUPPOSED to be affordable, hence they were 700% overpriced to begin with.
What is price, what is value?
How much R&D are you going to factor in?
I think you call them 'bean counters' (or something), so I suppose this is a very boring topic per se.

Sounds too good to be true, but I hope I'm wrong.

>>522525997
It is so strange how most who dislike him just nitpick random shit instead of criticizing him on any point that matters. I personally like him so I'm not complaining, but it is strange and feels like things are way easier for him than they reasonably should be. I suppose it is the long term effects of the MsM though.

To be fair visits to the doctor are also down 700% since people realized Indians cannot treat cancer and niggers finger them instead of checking for jock itch

>>522526088
I decided to indulge you a tiny bit. After one minute of searching we already find that there are healthcare providers in the US that treat more patients than the whole of Australia. So there are obviously economies of scale there. Your argument is simply incorrect.

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>>522526436
Cost of a course of antibiotics on the NHS: ~£2.00-£5.00 depending on the drug
Cost of a course of antibiotics in America: ~$12.00-$100.00

>>522513385
>DRUG PRICES ARE FALLING 700%
>Can any American confirm if this is true?
Yes it's true, why would Trump lie about this?
I used to pay $50/mo for my prescription. Now, thanks to President Trump, the drug company actually pays me $300 every month. God bless Trump and his 700% reduction in drug prices!!

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>>522526534
So the evidence is that there are healthcare providers who use "bulk" antibiotics. This one alone would use tens of millions of doses per year.

>>522526712
So can you point to this massive centralised purchasing authority in America like the NHS has?

>>522513385

Read what he said. He is not talking about the prices themselves, but about about the rate of the decline in prices. He is saying that a drug's price is falling 7x faster than it ever has before. People can him an idiot and are then forced to concede he is right. It draws extra attention to the point he is making.

>>522513722
Remember when schools used to teach reading comprehension so you can figure out what a guy means even if it isn't explained super clearly?
>American companies have high R&D costs for new medicine leading to an increased price point.
>Companies have to sell at extremely discounted rates in order to sell to Europoors.
>This leads to Americans paying 6x, 7x, 8x as much as them in order to subsidize their markets because they know the American market can afford it.
>Orange Man forces medical companies to sell their medications to Americans at the European rates.
>The 700% markup is now forced to reset back to the normal 100% rate resulting in a 600% differential.
>This is where he is pulling these numbers from.
Yes it's a slightly retarded way of wording it, but when you use even a small amount of your critical thinking skills you can figure it out. If you're a white person in this thread that's still confused you should just hang yourself because you're clearly too dumb to be able to interpret the world around you

>>522526816
Again with the invented numbers like "massive".
I've shown you a US healthcare provider that treats 44million people per year. They are a centralised buyer. Just like your supermarket example.
I've also explained that Australia with less than half of the UK population and also less than the size of HCA healthcare, has much cheaper meds than the US.
Your argument simply doesn't hold up to the evidence. There's no shame in that. This is an anonymous internet forum. You've provoked some good discussion.
Don't be afraid to look into how sovereign negotiating power can influence corporate power.

>>522527122
You seem to having trouble with the idea that 100 people all buying a bag of rice individually pay more per bag than 1 guy buying 100 bags himself (assuming he's not an idiot about it) does.

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>>522526336
It's just partisan retards trying to score points against the other team by being petty bitches.

>>522523409
>This price stuff doesn't matter as America is a big country so it is variable all over. It is going down in price in red states and going up in blue states, the typical pattern of things since lockdowns. It conforms to Americans' biases. All highlighting it does is further cement our settling boundaries between red and blue.
The fuck are you talking about you retarded mongoloid. Unless he gets congress to lower the prices through a law no drugs have reduced in cost, not a single one. That you believe it's gone down anywhere at all is ridiculous.

>>522522555
except it doesnt work like that in finance either.
Whens stock goes down 30% , it says -30% on any platform

DRUGS

trump made all my memecoins 2000% cheaper, i dont take jewish medicine this doesnt help me

>>522514093
>How can drug prices fall 700%
Drug prices were at 1000%, now you only have to pay 3x like the good goy you are

>>522513385
If something goes down by 100% doesn't that mean it is free?

>>522526871
Most of what he does is very obviously baiting journalists and shit like that. Someone would have to be pretending to be retarded or actually so to not see it. He even ends many posts with "THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER" signaling how he has made the news media report on whatever subject he wants more people to hear about. It is a pretty simple thing he's been known to do since 2016.

>>522513385
My prescription price has gone up 20% this year alone. At first I gave Trump the benefit of the doubt, but it keeps going up. He's fucking clueless, isn't he?

>>522521701
Americans absolutely understand that, you are delusional if you think otherwise. We just also have no love for you, because you are not our ally nor our friend, and fuck you, you're not our problem.

>>522513385
everyone should only respond to his posts with 'cocksucker'

>>522513385
Fent and meth prices are falling 500%?!?!

>>522513385
I pay 20 for 3 month supply of all my meds
Just paid today, so same

>>522529385
Yeah, that's why he's trying to go to war with Venezuela.

>>522528128
You are assuming drugs are sold for 100% of the cost to make it and no more, the percentage is meaningless what matters is only if the price drops or not

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>>522514317
Dumbass

>>522527002
>a small amount of your critical thinking skills
You mean mental gymnastics

>>522514093
Wow Donald Trump makes things up?
Better keep voting for him and all his affiliates.

Is no one going to call out the fact that the golem thinks that cheap drugs=healthcare? Or is that a common american belief

>>522513385
I got off the pharmikah Jew.