34 years later the USSR’s implosion is still inexplicable. to this day no one can offer a coherent explanation as to why this all vanished in an instant.
>to this day no one can offer a coherent explanation as to why this all vanished in an instant.Turns out communism made people in power poorer too, why own just a imported Volvo when you could own the whole street?
>>522532727Country was too OP and the Devs decided to patch it for the 1990s expansion pack
>>522532727What? Reagan told Gorbachev he would get rekt if he didn’t end it.
>>522532727Empires fall, mutt.Especially when they aren't being held together by Rotshilds and Rockefeller's and trillions of printed (toilet) paper
responses have thus far proved my point
>>522532727We wanted out and didn't care what leeches thought. We didn't realize leeches would find new host to suck off tho. I don't think Soviet union would collapsed in today's environment
>>522533305How come this government pours money into central asian shitholes now and we basically have no borders with them if we didn't want the leeches
>>522533436I refuse to believe the central asian shitholes feel better off independent than part of a global superpower
>>522532727the explanation was given by God. he softener the hearts of the leaders of the world at that time, starting with Russia
>>522532727the gov was a facade, the Russian Mafia was always in control, and still is now
>>522532727That's not a map of the soviet union you retard.
>>522532727Something very similar could happen in USA and its vassal states. Basically the peons ate enough shit they didn't want to die in forever wars for some drugged up fat ass Commies anymore.
>>522533615I genuinely don't care what is better for them, however I'd much prefer live in a smaller but homogeneous county with my own people. I don't want to see them here, I don't want the government helping them in any way.
>>5225328361. the west needed the commie block and started to fall a decade after it was abolished2. nukesnobody would have done anything. this was not human decision.
Russia ended ~1918. The social experiment prison that barely limped across the superpower finish line after WWII was always supposed to collapse. At its height, the Soviet Union was 1/3 the GDP of the US and, today, it has the GDP of Italy while trying to LARP as a superpower with the big dogs, US, EU, China.TLDR: The Masons/Jasons destroyed Russia during WWI and the Russians are going back under the boot of the new Mongolian Empire (China).
>>522532727I thought they deployed the psi beacon and pretended to collapse to seize the means of production in china to institute the utopia of the proletariat
Gorbachev was an inside job and american glowniggers bribed faggots like Yeltsin to dunk on Russia and dismantle its empire the way they pay nafo pajeets and trannies now.
>>522533615they got poorer since leaving the SU, only Kazakhstan wanted to stay kek. the Baltic would be broker than them if they didn't have the eu to leech off of. at least central asia have minerals and oil n shit but theyre too stupid to dig it out of the ground.
>>522532727>to this day no one can offer a coherent explanation as to why this all vanished in an instant.It's the same thing as what's happening to China since covid. Indie journalists were printing "USSR on the brink of collapse" while the mainstream media/citizens fell for the Soviet's propaganda. Soviet propaganda was that the USSR was living in the future, becoming the leader in technology and economy, and that Americans were leaving America to go live there instead. Meanwhile Soviet agents smeared the indie journalists that were reporting what was actually happening so the only way to know how bad it was was to actually go live there and realize how shit the pay is and how few rights people have. Then it "suddenly" collapsed. Normalfags literally don't pay attention, and that includes government. Never underestimate propaganda, it fools everyone including the people spewing it. Humans are pretty easily tricked from the common man to the leader of a nation himself, and it's only gotten 50 times worse with the age of the Internet and especially AI.
>>522533830Send the kazakh women to us.
>>522533436>if we didn't want the leeches"We" are not the government, they do not consider us aas compatriots or whatever. In this country every prick who gets a tiny bit of power thinks they're instantly better than everyone else, being this way for centuries. Kara-Murza did a good analysis of this in his book "Дeмoнтaж нapoдa".>>522533615They ddn't back then, despite of some riots and assaults against ethnic Russians. In fact, the poles showed the lowest share of people who wanted to keep USSR was in RSFSR, about 70%.
>>522533821>could happen in USA and its vassal statesIt can’t. The US entices other countries to play on Team America through peace (pushing conflict areas far away) and prosperity. Russia can’t offer either, so it has to invade all of its neighbors.
>>522533932Balts are good, capable people. They would have done alright by themselves and they too got fucked by the soviets all the same
>>522532923this bot cant even properly write Rothschild, which any german couldthis entire board is nothing but VPN shillsprobably a chink
>>522533985Lift the sanctions I'll mail you tajik family of 6
>>522533821The jewsa unironically does not have enough meaningful regional divisions like the USSR did. The USSR policy of creating nearly-artificial divisions like the Russia-Belarus-Ukraine instead of just having 'slavs' as one big group, or giving utterly irrelevant shitholes like Estonia equal status to Russia when it would make more sense for, say, Tatarstan to be its own union-level republic just created total nonsense and lead to divisions- probably intentional- that weakened russia as the premier power. Like if you were doing things in a non-retard way then Kazakhstan, gerogia, ukraine, moldova, belarus, estonia, latvia would all be part of hte Russia SSR and the others would be like how Tibet is an autonomous zone.This is also why China doesn't recognize different chinese groups such as Jin, Yin, Bing and Bong even though they speak different languages since they saw how recognizing meme 'east slavic' languages like rusyn fucked up the USSR. Or how Chinese speaking minorities are just considered chinese, without their own meme ethnic identity (would have solved many problems for russia).USA is like a fuckton of english speakers, some mexicans (who usually want to be white, or are otherwise too fat, stupid and short to make their own country) and then wild niggers who burn shit down but aren't organized enough to be a country.The biggest possibility would be like California and Texas breaking off and then The Nu CSA and New England-York-Jersey union doing their own thing.
>>522532727Russia under Gorbachev was methodically dismantled and destroyed from the inside through a reduction of its armed forces, decentralization of government, privatization, free marketplace chaos, rampant inflation, and unprecedented levels of unemployment. On October 29, 1991, a secret deal was crafted to steal Russia's priceless art collection and switch all of the original masterpieces in the museums for high quality forgeries! Most of the stolen art was sent to the United States. America disguised the theft by staging a humanitarian mission where they sent a shipment of some grain and tractors. This was one of Gorbachev's last crimes against Russia before his formal resignation.During the 1989 Malta Summit, 41st President of the United States G.H.W. Bush said: "Our attitude to Perestroika? The one world order would be better off with its success!" On May 27, 1991, U.S. President George H.W. Bush informed Trojan horse Gorbachev that 150 million dollars had been transferred to his private bank account in Switzerland. This was revealed by KGB General N. Leontiev in an interview published in the paper "Komsomolskaya Pravda" on December 26, 1995. Gorbachev had forbidden to record any of his private phone calls and conversations, but the KGB recorded them anyway.Gorbachev repeatedly called Bush "my dearest friend Georgie," while Bush demanded Gorbachev use violence to take out anyone obstructing their plan to collapse Russia! When he faced ouster, Bush reassured him in October 1991: "You are still the master!" On November 4, 1991, Viktor Ilyuhin filed charges of high treason against Gorbachev, but the case was closed and he was dismissed from the prosecutor's office 2 days later! After Gorbachev had finished playing his part, Bush declared on December 26, 1991: "Despite potential instability and chaos, these events clearly serve our nation's interest!"
>>522532727It collapsed for the same reason western welfare states are collapsing now. People realised there was no point going to work, so they stopped going, and it fell to bits. It's really that simple.
>>522534273> California and Texas breaking off
>>522534273Chinese are smarter about it. We still have ethnic autonomies, it's a time bomb and I'm positive either we abolish them or part with them.
>>522532727A combination of ideology not aligned with reality and trusting """the West""".
chernobyl
>>522532727It's like the entertainment industry. You have something great that everyone likes, then 2 decades later it's shitted up by millenials and zoomers whose entire media literacy is based on what references from the things everyone saw, but they don't know how to actually sustain its quality.Any time your hard work pays off, you've been set up for subsequent decades of seeing it all torn down by idiots.
>>522534273well, the soviets were commiesof course they were stupidthat entire shithole was held together by glue
People just stopped believing in communism.The country couldn't survive that.This happened all across Europe in 1980s, not just Russia. Yugoslavia collapsed for the same reason.USSR had been through other crises in its history but survived because there was always great faith in bright communist future no matter how shitty things got.That was gone in 1980s. There was just cynicism about everything.
>>522532727They were going to turn into a horshoe anti-jew and pro white.So kikes had to shut it down eventually
The oligarchs were tired of being poor. Slavic culture is the most fascist republican thing imaginable. It’s the few mastermind Slavs like Putin ruling over the teeming masses with an iron fist. If you want a voice in Slavic culture than you have to make something of yourself.
>be gorby>perestroika >let baltic book niggers to go Washington>book niggers magically find document that invalidates the baltics inclusion in the USSR>have this snowball into the end of an empireWe need to bring back illiteracy
>>522532727kgb defector anatoliy golitsyn claimed in his book "the perestroika deception" that the collapse of the ussr was a ruse meant to lull the west into lowering its defenses
>>522532727Bro when currencies become useless and Beaurcracies collapse there is no clear chain of command. Concscripts were selling Tanks for Bottles of Vodkano one gave a shit and no authority
>>522532727The USSR was the anomaly. The constituent nations all have historic roots.
>>522533436Does Russia give that much help to those countries? In exchange of what? Not allying with the west?
>>522534193Or more likely it's a turkroach or one of the millions of new Germans you imported in the last 10 years so you could give them welfare checks
>>522532727They went against Jews. Jews destroyed them.
>>522532727natashas demanded BBCivans lusted for dragon dildos and lubricated bananas/thread
>>522532727How is it inexplicable? It was a coup. The members of Gorbachev’s faction all became billionaires overnight after the dissolution. There was no private property in the Soviet Union before the perestroika, so it was all pillaged from the state.As for why the coup happened, it boils down to political rivalries between the center and right factions of the CPUSSR. The right seized power with Khrushchev and made a ton of questionable economic and social decisions. The center eventually came back to power, but they were highly suspicious of the right, which made Brezhnev hold on to power for a lot longer than he should have, effectively losing control of most institutions and state enterprises.
>>522539505More than it needs to https://mezha.net/eng/bukvy/gazprom-invests-400-million-in-kyrgyzstan-gasification-program/ For the sake of loving subhuman asiatic muslims
>>522533830careful that's not very federative of you pidor, you may need to get conscripted to get blown up in Ukraine so that sanjeet can come and boost your oligarch's GDP...
>>522540966Stop being a revisionist.It was actually for mcdonalds and pepsi.
>>522532727Union of failed statesNo money, infrastructure falling apart, extremely economically damaging afgan war and chernobyl.Communism just isnt it. And when country is that huge with completely randomly assembled cultures and retarded borders its clear that everyone will care for themselves first>>522533615Just look at those dogshit borders invented by communisms. Imagine utter cultural chaos and strife it caused. Turkmenistan is now a shithole with completely unhinged dictator, others except kazachstan are failed states with a lot of conflicts
>>522532923The four most powerful families in the United States are Rockefeller, Rothschild, [redacted] and [redacted]. No I will not tell you their names even if you guess them. Their names may not be spoken. Matter of fact, I don't even know why I'm posting this.
>>522541632They could have reformed the economy without breaking down the government. Has been working out far better for China.
>>522541822Rockefellers are destitute has-beens for over a century now you larping faggot.
>>522541911Yeah you're right... forget I even said anything
>>522541847Probably too distant and too few people overall to make something common. We have hubs in moscow, kiev and somewhere else which are extremely far away and you cant really control them properlyChina is at least monolithic. If your major hubs are that distant its bound to fail when crisis happens
>>522541300Damn thats a lot of money. At least this countries are very pro-russia no?
>>522534591Chechens love Russia(n money) now though. And Tatars are being outbred because Russia is importing Russian-speaking Kazakhs into Tatarstan.
>>522532727Reagan broke them financially
>>522541911Mr Beast's Rockefeller gibs prove you wrong
>>522542113>Reaganit was done through cooperation with Israel and America
>>522541998The USSR had about the same population as the US, which also has major population center separated by mountains and vast deserts. Distance could have been an excuse a long time ago, but transportation and communication technology has made that a control non-issue.
>>522532727Mikhail Gorbachev Pizza Hut commercial
>>522542388>but transportation and communication technology has made that a control non-issue.In USA maybe not, but in Russia its pretty much is.USA is also not centralized with having one or two major cities and a vast nothingness inbetween. It is quite decentralized.
>>522532727It was the jews, not even a meme
>>522542066 >>522533830
>>522542462It always amazed my how much autonomy the states have in the US. I wish we had the same system here.
>>522542911You do, to my understanding, but you only allow that sort of autonomy to the ethnic republics and not your own people.
>>522542993No. Case and point Texan border crisis in US. Stand offs with the federal governments like that are impossible here. Law, constitution it means nothing here. All is commanded from Moscow.
>>522537011yea I heard of that, there is even a post from january 2022 warning about the future invasion of ukraine next month https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/358550996/#358550996
>>522532727It's an unnatural state. Russia is the most schizo country on the planet and doesn't know who/what they are.
