>>522542550
They don't give a shit about Palestinians
They are dictatorships and monarchist who are happy to play along with Israel and the US, keeping their regimes is what matters

>>522542551
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>YOU NEED TO DIE IN A WAR SO SOME VIOLENT RETARDS CAN GET MUH LAND BACK
the whole point of the entire latter half of the 20th century is that they got curbstomped every time they tried lol.

>>522542553
But they're not trying and they've aided Israel, Britain, NATO etc. The entirety of the so called "israel-arab" conflict is false when you read the events. The 6 day war was less intense than the Israel-Iran 12 day war which amounted to jack shit. Egypt didn't even do anything other than alert the UN that Israel was building nukes, petition to close its canal and then get bombed

>>522542554
They got curbstomped in every war, what don't you understand? Israel occupied the Sinai and gave it back on the condition Egypt would stfu and stop trying to stir up shit

>>522542550
There is no greater enemy than your neighbour.

>Why don't Egypt and Jordan open their borders to the deranged zealots who willingly immolate thousands of their own civilians to make Pissrael look bad for like three news cycles?

>>522542557
These retards are from a western country and can't fathom that doing such things have real world consequences that could fuck up life for the average Egyptian but theyre still supposed to do it anyway because Arab unity o algo

>>522542555
They're not fighting the wars they're just letting them destroy their cities. They also aided the british, and everyone who wanted israel to exist. The palestinians are having to try and kill the leaders of all their surrounding states to gain support/weapons while fighting israel

>>522542557
>who willingly immolate thousands of their own civilians
Israel is the one doing that and outright breaking many international laws in doing so and they are outright admitting that publicly. Like bombing schools and hospitals and pretty much trying to ethnically cleanse an area. It's all documented and admitted to online

>>522542558
Turkey is who I blame most because they're a part of NATO and should try to get the NATO coalition to force-help them after they attack

>>522542558
>can't fathom that doing such things have real world consequences that could fuck up life for the average Egyptian
Israel is the one harassing South Africa for trying to take them to court. That and someone either sympathetic to Israel or directly under their payroll is trying to get Trump to crash out on South Africa. Israel actively spies on ANY third party investigating them and have done so for years.

>>522542561
nato is a defensive alliance, turkey can't just unilaterally say "let's attack Israel because I want to"

>>522542560
>Pissrael is forcing Palestinians to break the rules of warfare by embedding their forces in residential areas and refusing to fight with uniforms thereby making it impossible for the IDF to know who's a civilian
Palestinians are insane, lunatic maniacs who believe they can sacrifice as many of their own civilians as they wish because martyrs supposedly end up in heaven. Human life is meaningless to them, in fact they proudly boast about loving death as their enemies love life.
They are just as responsible and psychopathic as the Jews.

I cant imagine being as ignorant as people ITT

>>522542560
How do you cope with the collapse of the ANC in your country of origin, the SOEs being gutted out, 18 hours loadshedding insane crime rate, non-existent service delivery, GDP on hold for 15 years and counting, Zuma selling off the country to the Guptas, collapsing infrastructure, army, everything in collapse mode?

>>522542563
Defending palestinians is a good reason. The hostages are back and their still being attacked. They were being attacked before they took hostages and they don't exist on a lot of peoples maps anymore. A coalition can be formed and people would help them like they did with bosnia

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>>522542550
Such a coalition would still lose the war, and even if (in a fantasy setting) they were close to victory, many nations would step in to stop the war or fight against the coalition.

It's an always-lose situation with high risk no reward.

>>522542568
I feel like if America supported the coalition they would win with ease

>>522542567
Palestine isn't in nato dumbass. And since the ceasefire there hasn't been anything other than minor skirmishes (which is literally just the norm in the middle east lmao, no reason to start a retarded war)

The current status quo right now is good, of course Muslims by default support Palestine but none of them are emotionally invested in fighting a bloody war that would obviously just lead to more deaths and chaos for them and for others. For now Palestinians blow themselves up and kill a few jews, some angry IDF soldier might shoot a couple Palestinians, who gives a shit. It's the middle east. It's normal. The Turks know this because it happened a lot with the Syrian border and kurdish terrorists within their border

>>522542570
>The current status quo right now is good
It's pretty awful. Now Israel knows it can get away with anything and so does pretty much any state willing to pull off their own crazed campaigns like invading other sovereign states or funding death squad elements in fragile states for an extra gold ring.

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>>522542567
why not just take them if you like them so much?

>>522542570
NATO was first used to defend Bosnia. Palestine doesn't need to be in NATO it's being annihilated and America needs to do the right thing and help destroy Israel. Everyone in the world whos' willing to fight would fight. I'm Mexican and I would personally enlist into the coalition

>>522542571
The status quo is that a great power backer (the US) tells Israel to stop doing war because it makes us look bad and sign a ceasefire asap and now the war is stopped

If you value less people dying that's the best you can hope for. Someone who doesn't care all that much telling the sides that are intensely emotionally invested in each other's destruction to stfu

>>522542550
Not my problem.
Arabs literally betrayed us for some kafir, gavur bongs. The Palestinian flag is literally an anti-Turkish one. Now they cry about muh Muslim brotherhood and how the Ummah has to stick together o algo. They can all rot in hell for all I care.
Sure, I understand Erdoğan getting involved because of muh local power but him getting this involved was just retarded. Should've done it like in the Russian-Ukrainian War and just supported both sides.

>>522542575
He "looked strong" for Muslims to probably soypog over him but he didn't do that much.

Probably the best course of action

>>522542576
His speeches literally imply that he would be willing to go to war with Israel over Palestine.

>>522542564
>Palestinians are insane, lunatic maniacs
So you are totally ignoring the whole ethnic cleansing for Israeli settlers?
>They are just as responsible and psychopathic as the Jews.
You are pretty much totally ignoring Israel's actions to push some sort of weird narrative.

>>522542566
Why do you think I am South Africa?

>>522542574
>The status quo is that a great power backer (the US) tells Israel to stop doing war because it makes us look bad and sign a ceasefire asap and now the war is stopped
After all the damage has been done and multiple attempts to curb Israel already being brushed off and the countless billions in damage? That's like saying one has got their pitbull under control AFTER it already bit off most of teens face off.

>Someone who doesn't care all that much telling the sides that are intensely emotionally invested in each other's destruction to stfu
That's pretty retarded "we have to look in the middle of things" fallacious argument.

>>522542577
The biggest problem is Egypt not letting Erdogan in. They've also fought hamas, the plo and everything along with actively aiding the Israelis when needed

>>522542579
>The biggest problem is Egypt not letting Erdogan in.
Good. Wouldn't want to sacrifice any of our soldiers for a pointless cause.

>>522542578
>>522542578
>That's pretty retarded "we have to look in the middle of things" fallacious argument.
Deeply unserious geopolitical analysis and view of international relations.

There's a reason Ukraine will never get all of Ukraine back and why Estonia can't pressure China to stop trading with Russia.

Snap back to reality. If what you care about is minimizing deaths and human suffering, stopping war and making sure it doesn't happen again is best.

>>522542581
>Ukraine will never get all of Ukraine back
I don't think you understand the history of war. Wars last hundreds of years and Ukraine has no intention surrendering anything. Palestine has also been a hundreds year war and they can probably keep fighting on their own forever given the circumstances

>>522542581
>If what you care about is minimizing deaths and human suffering
But there is no minimizing going on at all. There's nothing stopping Israel from starting it up allover again.
>stopping war and making sure it doesn't happen again is best.
The exact people who supported and created the war are still in power and basically. Which again pretty much signals committing outright genocide (Israel) or directly funding it (UAE) is okay if you have the right allies

>>522542550
America gives Egypt billions of dollars a year to bribe them to be nice to Israel

So Yemen is shit-tier then ?

>>522542575


- Those Arab flags means pan Arab (anti Turk) not pan Islam
- they call Turks kafirs regularly
- they call ataturk a Jewish dog
- they are racist against other Arabs
- they enslaved and brutalized Muslims from former USSR which are our kin and historic allies

I could go on, all the Arabs had to do is boycott Israel and Israel would fall apart overnight

Also they’re governments are working for the sole purpose of fucking over turkey for no apparent reason

>>522542579
>>522542577
Turkey did all they can diplomatically. Arab countries simply prefer to have their heads buried in the sand.

Even a heavily sanctioned Iran came to the defense of Palestine. Only for Jordan Saudi etc to help shoot down the missles

>>522542587
>>522542586
Also the populations are young

A Muslim NATO is coming within a generation or two. Everyone is beginning to build up their own military capability.

Kids are young and restless

>>522542551
you give the answer in two sentences. People stiill write thesis trying to explain it.

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What do you call Israel without us backing?

A smoking crater